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it was a shadow buff with the nerf to sojuorn he got more of a buff
cmon twisted
No tracer is best pick here but it’s just a rough player for it
If h gonna have doom or Winston into the Dva sym comp I think casa kind just dies and can’t get good angles
Tvnt eating all pulses
C9
You could maybe run Ashe or Soj? Soj is kinda meh rn and Ashe isn’t that great
I think the map pick just made this harder than it needed to be for lgd
reverse sweep merchants
Oh no.korean players didn't understand fist pump after winning, they were like: wtf this saudi coach doing
👍
yeah, not even to take away from tm, they look great on the comfort comp with sym
There not Korean
Just like confused at lgd choices
Oh really? What are they then ?
Like why are you bringing ur dive specialist to suravasa
Lmao there Chinese
Ohhh I see, sorry I didn't know
The coach is Korean
They’re*
He a ass coach tho
I mean Tbf it’s not like the players are doing well either
They're not but they're also in the most inconvenient position ever
I mean I personally like his work
Which isn’t insane since china has been completely out of tier 1 relevancy for a while
Only guy really comfortable is leave
Yeah but it feels like leave still got caught by the goofiest shit
Shy wants to play hs, guxue wants a good map lol, lengsa and Mmonk wanna be on brig ana but they can't do tht
I perfer the doom with a mccree tbh
I never even imagined sym can be used this way though
This is how sym is always played at this level
Doom maybe, I don’t see how you realistically mirror hs into the sym Dva at all
Shit Jake said its the tracer too
Wall and tp plays plus a lot of late fight pressure in the brawl
nah merit cant even play flex. shy has a good tracer sombra
Eh less so tracer
Nah I just see that that
Mccree ult can push them back but wwith doom dva can’t get stun drying mccree ult
Mb sombra but tbh I don’t remember as much XD
I think the ban confused china too
Nah merit can't play tracer like at all
they played shy tracer leave echo through most of the owl 2023
got to semis even
on it
True
At least shy can play tracer it's just not optimal here
Yeah more comparable to lip I agree now
And tbh I think they wanted to play venture
Shy think he's prophet or something
Push them back? Mf 3.5 second dm
Tp
Better than ph lol
True
Really?
It’s like the easiest thing to kite for that comp
Prophet has potential but idk how he's gonna turn out
It’s more an issue of Dva just walks on casa with tp or by herself
At least shy is proven
Wait what's the bans
Casa has no vert mobility either so it’s way easier to walk on him
You mean dm him in discord ? I have his discord
I don't think he will open discord now
Ohhhh lol
Wtf
…..
sym and winston banned
I thought he was gonna commit to ball
And why did it work
Idk how it worked
Is zarya being played in my ewc match rn
the boop
By Guxue at that
Leave is having fun
Wait anyone saw bans ?
winston sym
I get it, TM was basically flabbergasted and insta lost point at the sight of the zarya hero, op strat
How did guxue just walk on them there
Quartz tryna recreate the owwc widow performance
This show how good youbi was on sym
Panic widow swap maybe not ideal
This team looking the best on zar is so crazy to me
I don’t like the mei here much Ngl
Lmao turn off the cheats and this happens
yeah this map migh be wraps
Lol
Widow good asf this point but
Rigged regime
Widow not good at this part of map
Random Mmonk sleep lands as usual
No wonder they put this match on stream A
Which regime XD
quartz got jump scared
Bob grav and beat
Who do you blizz here
Well nobody
Nano zar guxue what in the hell am I watching
Alr no more zarya please
Lol widow worked
ooooh widow mirror
Shy now go widow to counter
ok
Go back zarya pleas
Lol
Rate fire bastion swap
W ranked match
So many changes
Ok but WHY ARE WE ON MAUGA
I’m watching ence vs m80
trust the process (i ain't trusting shit)
and choose a comp mfs
M80 (retirement home) gotta be the team ever
twisted clutch
Rush is ass
Cause tvnt had ult and he can't change to sigma
Think there playing on ptf servers
I wouldn't mind the doom on mid town third but mauga is being played
what's after this
Rigged
I’d rather him just go ram or even something
The Mauga is terrible
They gave them a worse coach
Look at this fraud gator
Good to see tm being competitive again tho after all the shit that's been going on with them
Like not a huge zarya defender but it’s ok at least
Also true
Gator or rush
Gator is stuck with coluge and lyar so imma cut him some slack
Quartz’s Cassidy looks so much better now
True they did get rid of pelican tho
Lmao
Lgd XD
Ngl quartz might be cheating
Quartz had too much arab coffee today
Bc how do you find two
nice shots but like cmon that should never happen for lgd lmfao
bubble saved leaves ass
It's not first time he does it
crazy dogfights
Bliss
Beat was so late
Huge hinder
!jumbo 
Guxue should've chased tvnt before he got form back
Guys TVNT is actually doing so well
Leveled up in Korea maybe?
Yea but they say ksaa trained him a little apparently
They let vigilante live
Yeah i underrated tf out of tm, rly thought all the roster changes were rough asf
He was healing the ram
BUT lgd are also looking weird
Idk last time I seen him was on orisa and he got reverse swept by a t2 team so I guess he locked in after that
A lot of small and big mistakes
Plus lengsa was hiding with beat
like i said, NOBODY
TWISTED 3:0
not even himself knew of his potential
I love to see it
Let me take rush's job
No way
Like the fact that they gave tm sym comfort 2 maps in a row, then played fucking meme comps the whole time
TM second in group?
I still don't understand why we go suravasa
GUYS
first
but who knows
WHERES THE MF THAT SAID HELL SUCK MEAT IF TM WINS
maybe tgs
I mean they’ll eventually lose to falcons
is going crazy too
@native crest
Send it my way
Bro 💀
Idfk what lgd is doing, but ig that’s what happened when you aren’t in high level play for 7months XD
falcons and TM and tied for first but since it's only day one, it doesn't impact anything except power rankings
tm look good, esp on comfort
I’m saying group will end with falcons first and tm second
…
Washed
Curious how tm performs after this tho, idk if they beat teams like ssg even rn
Tvnt was so good, I can't believe it
i swear i got a thinking problem or some shit lol
Guys m80 and ence on btw
Not impossible tho
It happens don’t worry
Ngl not trying to watch retirement home vs ence
No more happy, so I'm not interested
Ence isn’t that good either
Bro it’s not jsut rush Ngl
Wait coluge isn't throwing
hope it's a closer game like GG vs Toronto Ultra
That whole team is rough
LGD third place finish in group stage then dark horse run in playoffs
Fr but Kevster wmaimone is also interesting
I can't bring my self to blame my goat
Wast just rush
Rigged
I'm using rush as the scape goat
Like lengsa was not good on Lucio, shy was doing air on tracer, mid map swaps sucked
Etc
You know what? Ence is better that wmaimone is in and not kai
I don't keep up with EU and NA so 
Towards last match letting vigil live to heal ram was dumb idea
Dying to quartz in the most random moments
has lengsa ever been good on Lucio
#EZ4ENCE
When they should have sent someone to push vigi
Ok I just thought you’d like a dog fight
Ksaa streaming match 😭😭😭😭
Lengsa hiding with beat screwed them over
have you just started watching ow e-sports
No I just don't remember lengsa playing much Lucio and I wanna confirm
Skai is better than ghost
No it's only becuase it's 3:15am I've had enough esports before I start work in 5 hours
Alright dude
Quartz going forward and trying to.find headhsots when his team dying then.finding kills is insane
Yeah he played great, but also some owness falls on lgd for finding ways to die in a 4v1 with stupid risks
Like Ana wide peeking cass
For fun
Ksaa in his stream: it's hard to watch 😭
I forgot ence don't have their backline that's why m80 looks way better than I thought
Actually looks like a competitive map rn
Ksaa is in call with slay and kraandop lmao
True tbh
I wish EWC has special ow skins
lgd gonna finish 3rd
lets see how they do in playoffs
Interested to see how tm looks against better teams tho tbh, they looked rly good esp on the sym comps but I only worry that teams not as bad as lgd could abuse them more
yeah they need to beat falcons and tgs to go 2nd
and no way they beating falcons
yeah
Will they play falcons tomorrow?
theyre finishing 3rd
even if they beat tgs, twisted still get winners advantage
Not sure off the top my head
Whenever I try to check the website it crashes so
I’m kinda just going in as it happens XD
Yes lol
zeta vs bleed soon
I think bleed is the 2nd most overrated team (behind lgs)
Tbf I thought lgs was a question but I didn’t think they would look this bad
I think they're properly rated I haven't seen anyone say their insane or anything
Idk who bleed is anyway
Daf
Not to take credit from tm, they looked rly good
But still a lot of weird shot from LGD
…hmmm is that the team with ace?
The team that took ftg to map 5 at the Asia lan
yeah i kinda suspected it from the leaked scrims
when ftg was kinda trolling hard?
and therefore apparently they are the greatest team ever XD
I just wanna see clear on dva
I never saw those tbh, but yeah I never really rated them high since china hasn’t been relevant in 7-8months
Ig
i just wanna watch EU win and NA lose, idc about anything else
what has happened to na recently bro
recently?
But I never rated tm high either tbf, they suprised me today, but also I think they have a bit more to prove
performed bad
now they are losing with the ex mayhem lol
Na without imports doesnt even exist
them losing a map to the mauga otp team in this meta is rough alr
ngl
tor not looking good imo
Ence?
toronto lost a map to gg peps
Problem for Toronto is how weird it is for them to play this meta
They don’t wanna play rush into eu, but aren’t good enough at dive to fuck with kr
So it’s a weird spot to say the least
hitscan isnt that good either
Plus mer1t CANNOT play non hs heroes
vega and lenny are ass
On a lot of maps
the problem is the lenny and vega just pull tor down so much
Is pge actually the 2nd best hitscan in NA
Just rebuild Florida in Korean and import Rupal Lowkey
unironically might be
Unironically yes
and tr33 is stuck in a dog team
I feel rly bad for tr33
Tr33 and seeker try to have a competitive team or not be the unluckiest player ever
Like bro is young and wants to try rly hard n shit
And is on coluge team
The guy who gave up like a year ago
He’s doomed isn’t he? Any elite western talent will just never win anything under this format, at least on the global stage
only reason m80 is doing well is cuz owl scrim experience
Coluge is like the single most clear example of the problem with NA
idk EU might have a chance if meta is perfect for them
Seeker has unironically never been on a team better than the 2023 valiant until now but then their flight gets cancelled
Kevstor look like some anime character
Old guard is still better than younger NA talent but he doesn’t care and creates a culture where quitting and not giving a fuck is the norm
spark got swept
Like ppl like coluge for NA need to be cut out
unironically
WTF
take a random t500 tank over coluge
nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
and just scrim
happens
If the region is ever gonna improve ppl like Coluge need to just stfu and retire
Deadass gimme a washed super or space over coluge
any t500 tank that actually wants to scrim
m80 would still get second
Just let younger players like infekted and especially tr33 boot camp and improve, the old tornado squad is dead for a good reason
but they would actually havea chance at getting better
Coluge should've left with hydron
Yup
Now hydron is streaming and doing great
The round of na players with Tornadoes was honestly one of the worst things to happen to NA
“Power of friendship” group that refuses to play with any other talent and circlejerks as they give up on ow leaving the region with nothing beside a few young players
Like it’s p bad
At least hydron can be funny
yeah that social group is the death of talent
ngl
The ojee s9mm speedily aspire circle jerk
Look at those players now lol
luckily seems like the new NA talent making their own group lol
I don’t wanna be in the aspire circlejerk Ngl
Yeah but it’s in an age where other regions are still strong with their older and even newer talent
genuinely
cuz other regions older talent dont pull down the newer talent
Exactly
like what happened with the tornado group
And other regions older talent don’t just give up on the game and refuse to EVER consider changes in rosters
now NA has the pge/seeker group as new talent, but those guys need to play hard catch up
They need a lot of boot camping
that's why I wanted seeker and Infekted to make lan this experience is so huge and they're missing it
are they missing it?
Also Tbf NA collegiate is a rly good program which further pulls from the NA talent pool
Can’t rly blame players there tho
I don't think they found a flight in time
im p sure they play ssg today?
They had one then it got cancelled
yeah but didnt they get a new one?
Either they found a flight or they're on ping
I'm not too sure
I hope they're there tho
im p sure they found one in time
lmfao
m80 being cooked by ENCE with rak lmfao
will just be 3-Overwatch today
Oh they did Infekted has a picture with donghak
Zeta Division is running what lgd should've ran on this map
lol
wait bleed is insane
what is happening
Wait wait wait
WHY IS BERNAR NOT IN??
Oh
Nvm
I thought Winston got banned
Ignore tht
so what did they ban wtf
Each team is running their ideal comps wtf
Ok the Ashe pick makes sense
Keep flora off hitscan
And clear does play queen as well
cuz big dive map
I thought Winston got banned and they didn't put Bernar in
Is it better to just dry fight after fearless dies
Nano and copy gone for nothing
lol
lol
the koreans
thai ow is actually insane ig
??????
Ong the script writers are cooking
It's a repeat of the best match from the Asia lan
of it's gonna be good
Bleed overrated?
or ftg is done for
I wouldn't say done for
Not a big fan of how Zeta is playing rn
yeah flora and alphayi kinda sleep rn
Yoshi is cooking
HV is actually insane aswell
They needa wake up
im a fnatic believer and zeta disbeliever
thai dps are cooking
Flora is doing okish but alphayi is more asleep
Thai be playing Asia servers ngl so understandable
Fearless looked decent on the Winston 2nd round, but god he is a onetrick
NA had all owl players in their servers for years and are still dog though
I assume we see a mid town pick here keep flora on Ashe bring in Bernar for sig or dva
so thats not all
Zeta still has Bernar
The engage timings into the Lucio kiri could be much better
Like the nano echo engage was rly ugly
Actually mid town would be really good for zeta
I might have to change allegiance from China to Korea
Flora on Ashe and you can run Finn viol2t on brig bap or double flex
Or we go to suravasa
Honestly I blame most of na problems on the post like super era culture in players
change to thai, become a bleed believer
yeah they are meming too much
Bernar has to come in now
Nah I'm not that type of asian unfort
dont have the same hunger
Gotta rep the bloodline
No Lucio so maybe brig bap dva?
the bleed dps are actually insane though, at least that map
HV putting alphayi and flora into his pockets
Got my mouth wide open when he nanoed as echo
Time to learn Chinese
both were cooking
I actually think zeta have the advantage on this map when Lucio is banned
you got a link? xd
Violet on ana
Just go on bilibili OA channel
rak the best NA player in m80 vs ence rn not even kidding
They speaking chinese tho
Without the Lucio the ana is much safer but if Bernar is in its probably brig bap
just another EU > NA moment
second seed of NA at full strenght vs weakened second seed of EU
hell tor lost a map to peps
lmfao
i mean coluge isnt really full strength xdd
As a british person I rep EU
bro needs to register on doordash
who is better in NA though
lmfao
I'm boutta say m80 is only second seed bc na is just that bad
na only has toronto and toronto is mid
also bc the bracket
nobody, tank slot in NA should be for import
xd
region hardcarried by imports lol
Tree is getting cooked damn
ye
Kill the carry
Rip tree, #savetheecosystem
gonna repeat this but NA has 2 good players, both of which play the same role lmfao
Pge and hydron
LOL
😍😍
xd
time to replace sugarfree then lol
NRG probably don't disband until one of them has a big break
get topdragon in for lenny
is topdragon not an import?
Give him the passport lmao
Just pull sum strings
#DEI
Illari ana??????
lucio banned ig
holy bleed is actually doing it
Well there's the bap
Yeah
I FORGOT THEY EXISTED
Hvs threw so bad
I could actually see ence going pretty far tbh with dva being so strong
Violet illari damn
vestola is a dva main
also chat i missed tm vs oa, was tm just really good or oa too washed
Uh both
both
youbi hit ever teleport
TM looked really good
guxue couldnt connect
More of oa wadhed imo
Oa looked washed and rush needs to give me his job
Violet carrying
Omg clear was hungry for that illari ult
hyvision the goat
when each point is close flashpoint is lowkey the most entertaining mode
goodbye m80 ig
Damn space station vs ntmr is on the b stream
alr lost vs ence and i cant see them take a map off of zeta or bleed
i mean prob. a 3-0
Probably yeah
Lmao
Best American Tank not on an American team
Lol
Clear lowkey the best NA tank
Best na off tank for sure
VIOLET LOL
Well is he even an off tank
zeta division frauds
Lmao
stream
The saudi regime
Lolllllll
This wouldn't happen in stockholm 🥱
no way
Looolllll
they turn that around
rip
rigged
Obvs rigged
nah twisted just played levels above
R they gonna release the codes for these matches?
I hope so
Holy shit! Zeta cheated offline
Yes so I can expose the saudi regime
What teams are those? I didn’t know we had teams in EWC with those names
guys the saudi regime rigged a million dollar tourney instead of doing it the proper way which is more entertaining omg
Yes
It makes sense
To a Delulu
mf just accept the loss
☠️ I'm muslim lmao
And you still said you’d suck meat?
Script writers realized Korea going down 2-0 was a risk and they had to change tht
Fr
Also well played bleed
So don't count
daf v ftg might be best match of the day again
It wasn’t rigged. You’re just avoiding your responsibility
Also I said tvnt vs guxue
Till it got rigged
No it was rigged one team had rush
Tvnt did not do shit
Ok he won. He played very well
nah tvnt was cooking ngl
Ok I’m convinced you didn’t watch a single second of the series. You’re just here hating nonstop and it’s such an ugly look on you bro
Yeah so ugly
Obviously you care so much
U think icare what u think of me?
Otherwise you’d shut the hell up
Kinda obvious
Lol
if ssg dont win this bro
Gimme a second I need to stop laughing
HUGE BANS
Mauga and bap
Mauga and bap
No bap brig or mauga rush
Let’s go ntmr
no landon bap :c
I’m cheering for my boy admiral
Zeta playing ana brig Winston here for sure
Intro is insane
INSHAALLAH
SSG will ban a support so they can protect bap
Second point could be hitscan dive from zeta
I’m mad we missed how zeta cheated
Do they have first ban?
Aren’t they higher seed?
I want fried chicken so badly

i mean this should be a ssg 3-0
That’s so stupid…they should ban LW
Bro they banned kiriko and winton

yeah citrus ntmr is cooked
Yeah Wtf. They’re scared of the hadi winton
💀
Timeless
wääää wääää wää
Someone is delulu just ignore
☠️
@native crest it's time for some sucking
And it was never citrus
Guxue better then tvnt
yeah mixed that one up
🤷♂️🤷♂️
its just ntmr
Brb I’m gonna watch
Here is mine
I said if tvnt better
Clearly guxue still better
tvnt played better
😂
Cap
mf said cap
Hard cope
Not really
this guy man
but won on sigma 🤔
One trick
and won on ram
Hard carried
lmfao
mf just go to sleep or something
When they release codes
its bed time
did that guy just got banned?
It's half 5
i just saw like 10 messages dissapear
I need the codes
Cus how do u know it's not rigged?
U know as much as me
If they don't release codes
Then rigged
Jus like WC
alr its rigged now stop talking i wanna watch the match
yeah but are waffling like a toddler
hadi dva
what are the ssg bans?
hadis worst heros are diva zarya
Kiri monkey
I'm now saudi korea mix with a eu passport
Bros having an identity crisis
i want ntmr to win lowkey
i want NA to lose
this meta in theory should be really good for tm ence and falcons
I don't think that was bad for bleed ngl they were gonna lose that anyways
Just go next and pick a map you're more confident on
na is cooked
if tm falcons or fnatic goes far in this tourney im happy
lgd too but i dont see that happening
Owcs had better promo lol
ewc got the crazy sponsors tho
The ow portion of ewc didn't get nearly as much advertising as league and Val
Wait
Is Val even here
Should of been PGE
I meant to say cod but it just hit me
half the people i know refuse to watch ewc
i dont get how dota had 40k viewers but ow like 3k
Ntmr K
Ow is dead
Finna join em
#stop the rigging
Funnyastro is British, I'm british so I rep ssg now
So is kai
So I rep ence
ow was already a pretty niche esport, blizzard themselves did no advertising, less co streamers bc lot of ppl don't align with Saudi views and it's day one so
Numbers are indeed gonna be cooked
Fnatic is British org
Ow sports use to be like meta
Viewership was crazy
Anyway
It was but it was never the biggest esport
ow also used to be game of the year
nowadays...
☠️☠️
Other games had bigger esports scenes
overwatch was also seen as a lesser esport compared to others blizzard just had the money to make it work back then
ow the only shooter to win game of the year right?
Maybe
No idea
I'm not sure
Fnatic v VP?
yup and ence
yeah they play m80 latr
3-0
both fnatic, ence ssg, zeta playing 2 matches
I wanna see fnatic fr
Two zar picks today
And they are both doing great 👍
Did zeta win
Bro half these ewc games are so goofy
Like why are half of them random ass mobile games
XD
why is getting 1st in cs or league equal to whatever the fuck “free fire” is
Or whatever the fuck “MLBB” is
i think fnatics will be the real deal. i hear knife and viper were straight up monsters in scrims
vp is good but this should be a stomp
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!!Is clear australian
Very doubtful.
there you go
chat is a joke
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Chat was cringe the whole time. A bunch of 15 year olds ngl
So immature
that's just normal internet humor
I don't have chat open when I watch esports
It wasn’t humor. It was just losers arguing the whole time
Most of the time it's just like casual takes or rage bait
It’s just constant shade against KSA and Saudi players and some mfs are saying very inappropriate things
Give me a fantic jersey
Also spamming
Cool af
I like the colors
THEY UAVE A SWEATER TOO
Bleed was rolling zeta till they started cheating
trueee
3-0 ence
M80 should just go home
Fr
Ence just kept running at tree and they fell apart
Look I don’t play tank but I’ll play tank instead of coluge and you’ll play Lucio
I saw a reply and it was just dva bombs
Nah that's too much we'll end up winning the whole tournament
Um…that’s the idea buddy. I want some of that 400k$
How zeta and ssg looking?
Zeta was STRUGGLING against bleed first two games but then started rolling them
SSG and ntmr is 2-2 I think
Zeta was lost first map but they locked in and I'm not even watching the SSG match
tbh it was ALMOST a repeat of FTG vs DAF Esports
It looks like SSG and ntmr are just fucking around tho
I seen Hadi on dva and a ball mirror
Zeta was one fight away from going 0-2
literally the exact same teams in OWCS asia minus Dank
I doubt they're serious
Why would they troll?
They don’t wanna be third seed bro
I mean they're not trolling but I don't think they're trying their hardest
I hope they lose
SSG does tht against lesser teams
Anyone that isn’t taking this seriously better lose
checkmate is on the bench
It’s 2-1 btw not 2-2
triple flex dps lineup
knife is the hitscan
isn't he a tracer player??
Knife a flex
yeah but he plays hitscan for the team
Both play tracer
He played tracer on Shanghai right
He plays hitscan tho I think
Im p sure Knife is a hs/flex player
he will be the one to swap to ashe cas if they need
I see I see
Ya
3 fdps is weird
idk works fine in this meta XD
I don’t think knife was on dragons
Dude why do you need 3 flex dps? Lol
Vegas