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Cursed statement
Dive is peak
ence needs to get chase out of ukraine bro
vestola clears
ence 4-3 racoon
I agree with all ur predictions ana
tack bror
Wish game started sooner
Ok I gtg. @vale cobalt if ENCE wins I will derank to silver for real
banned for deranking on purpose
I’ll be on standby
i will miss firest map :(
prepared to boost (ow its a joke)
Me when sarcasm
🤣
Ian you should join r/cow discord
i think im in it
Much more fun ow esport chats
bro the dps dif will be too much vs falc
tbf this chat went downhill after owl ended
i just use it because i love shitposting here
What happened to the chat I loved
Lore dropping
lord save us from seeing the monstrosity that is kai sojourn today
i will cry if i have to watch it
Kai did well yesterday honestly
once a hater always a hater i cant praise him now
ssg easy win
gotta stick to my guns
I mean he did well
ssg 3:1
I can’t see ence winning
not happening
Unless falcons did a bit too much exposing them
ya i know tht i just thought he was known for his dva
Mer1t did do better individually yesterday imo but at the same time it’s easier to shine when ur team is overall playing worse ig
So maybe I can see a world where ence wins
but i hope to see the game a bit more competitive considering how well they did vs falcons
the last time i watched ence vs ssg it was one of the most entertaining games ive seen in a while
ence has this vestola guy, i dont know who he is but for some reason i feel like he used to be a part of a goated roster
chadi rein WILL make an appearance no doubt
I think it should be competitive but tbh I think especially following faceit SSG has looked noticeably better than ence
It's crazy bc merit finally looks at his monitor but the team just wasn't locked in
we didn't wanna win ig
#Believer
he's gonna take that hammer into battle and bring down the Koreans 1 by 1
Given ence surprised me yesterday and they looked better than I thought but also Toronto threw immeasurably hard
Raw
Hadi gonna show Junbin who’s the real g
If junbin ain't ballin he's falling
should i use that hadi copypasta rn
HADI MY BELOVED. Hadi honestly has saved my life, everything from his manner, his rather charming laugh, and his witty words I knew just from first sight, I was in love. I've never fully admitted my love for this beautiful chad. But, my time has come that I must come to terms with my identity. I am more than just a Hadi simp. This is the first time I have ever felt true love towards something. With my whole heart, I can admit that Hadi means the world to me.
HADI MY BELOVED. Hadi honestly has saved my life, everything from his manner, his rather charming laugh, and his witty words I knew just from first sight, I was in love. I've never fully admitted my love for this beautiful chad. But, my time has come that I must come to terms with my identity. I am more than just a Hadi simp. This is the first time I have ever felt true love towards something. With my whole heart, I can admit that Hadi means the world to me.
LETS GOOOOO
everything rush said about hadi is true
Omg merch in hand as well the aura is too much
who playing>?
SSG v ENCE
swooning
wait Vestola is the shortest player on ence?
the Porsche in the background kills me everytime 😭
LMAO
i still wonder what the fuck they want with the collab
do they expect us to buy porsche
I mean money
money
it so random
or just getting the name out there more
porche doest get shit
i mean to be fair prime overwatch had crazy good collabs
maybe theyre tryna return to the good days
At least we have a collab
ong
same rerason bmw is in league of legends esports
I mean it’s advertising
+investment
Who knows maybe Hadi in a Porsche can increase sales by 200%
u htink any ow player gonna buy tht overpirce ass cars
For one, the market of people that have nice pcs and play online games like overwatch will have some overlap yes
they spend hundreds on skins, this is one rich playerbase man
its very possible
we spend money ont eh game we aint go shit
lotsa middle aged dads in the fandom
For two the point isn’t to just make ow played buy cars
It’s to get the brand into the psyche of a demographic
flexing his aura before they lock in
classic astro int
Like “word of mouth”
genshin players have a better chnace to buy there car
love this guy
Sparkr soj is actually kinda rare
nvm i didnt miss anything
I've only seen him pull it out like twice
ence won first fight pog
If seicoe lamps a little quicker that copy would've been soooo huge
Still won the fight tho
Omg
what did u eat
ramen to good
This might be the best match of the event besides raccoons vs falcons
i think of bugsnax everytime someone says burger
hadi needs to play rein if he wants to win
Yeah this is a good game
If Smurf locks his PayPal ofc
Eh I don’t think rein is as good as ram here tbh
I would ask why he's on torb but it's actually so common on this map now
bestola diffs hadi on ram unfortunately
I think they both have decent ram play
i hear voices in my leaft ear wtf
Not a comfort for either of them
what!!!

I wanna watch the ssg codes so bad
the way sparkr actually ends up on these angles at the perfect time I just need to know
Sparkr didn't get beat and lived some how
Landon too locked
2nd best bap at the event
REAL
FUCK MAUGA
yall saw nun
i neeeed those comms
carnally
I feel like SSG had a better chance against Korean teams. So they should beat ence
Need someone to fully leak the team comms right to my dms
warm up map
They would've beat falcons if proper was sick
EMEA not playing mauga comp might be their downfall
nah
Even tho m80 is a worse team they started finding answers to the mauga venture shit
did u see smurf on mauga?
smurf mauga was the only reason ence got a draw on numbani
I think it's possible but raccoons probably stomp them
Genji mauga combo is disgusting. It’s always a team fight win combo
"probably"
Gotta have hope
M80 WAS playing the mauga comp but with Cassidy
Nah they ran venture genji on flashpoint
like the exact same comp as falcons
You see how broken that comp is? M80 almost beat SSG cuz they picked up that comp lol
SSG still lost that map unfortunately tho bc the ult economy was too fucked on the last point
didnt ssg spawn camp m80 on this map
Another reason to remove mauga
Yes but it still went to map 5
I assume ence start on defense
dude these fucking casters
I mean he's not wrong
people forget how close they are in skill
What stream are you watching
Main broadcast
oooo
cloudy
I love the desk what can I say
I might swap to apply tho
hadi does not want to play rein today it seems
I’m watching emongg today but if he runs another ad mid game, I’ll go to the main stream lol
he knows they will force ram
maybe no rein bc he was expecting the ram
and the ram ram is a lot better
^
And it's not that likely that vestola goes mauga unlike hawk
why does vestola keep dying today fuck man
that fight was not it
they just fought out of cass los
like the only thing cass can hit htere is blocking ram
Those Gibraltar losses getting to him
they know gibralatr is fucked
the PGE effect is real
that fight was not vestola's fault tbf
He can't get it out his mind
sgg win on gibralatr
whyyyyy did they choose havana
they play the rush on it
Full hold incoming?
obv ence might be unironically the worst dive team
lol
dive
They break the hold so at least they're better than m80 here lol
Ofc they’re better
obv m80 didnt even look that great going in
SSG isn't London tho the hadi monkey is real
I mean I did but this isnt owl
the ram pick is generally better
still
rn
they will have fun
mb?
I wish Toronto would walk with beat like that
lmao real
cause ence cant play anything well on gibralatr
the curese will stay
like hard
the mid curse
ong
Mhm
will always be there
huge boop
EU is obv better now
That's my hitscan
I went in thinking NA was the worst but that it would be more SSG vs TOR
AGAIN THE TBAG
we had tm ssg ence
THEY HATE KAI
over na
Kev tryna sniff the backcap
like I went in with M80 > ENCE > TOR > SSG
for the west
but it ended up being more
Nah that peel by astro was crazy
LMAOOOOO
Saved Landon by a hair
KAI GETTING ABUSED
it was never that
Huh
but ssg ence is close so ence could end up being better
or wait
other way around
I did the wrong >
I meant <
ssg is actually visibly outperforming rn
yeah ik
i was going to say
I cleaned by keyboard the other day
like what are you saying
and I accidently mixed up
the > and < keys
lmfao
so I typed the wrong one
gg
yeah no ssg is better than ence who is better than tor who is better than ence
basically
but going in I just thought toronto was at least better than ence but worse than SSG
GHOST WHERE IS THE LAMPO
gg
actually a very very good push from ence though
havana is veryh hard to push to say the least
Has any team beat the venture
uh idk
cr maybe
ctazy raccon
I stg I thought this hero was so useless but ig it has enough niche to work
and their niche just so happens to be pretty good rn
Why do people say venture‘s ult sucks? It’s really good. It’s only mid if enemy has shields and stuff
this map might be over
yeah but going in I thought that dive denial niche was way more applicable than venture who I thought was just too easy to kite and otther dps were better
It doesn't suck it just isn't as easy value depending on the map especially here for second point
A lot of angles and height to just avoid the ult
I think the venture is also super enabled by mauga being stupid design
like the falcons comp basically its good asf for venture
Just go up and ult lol or push them down. It’s not bad at all. You at least do a lot of aoe damage for your team to follow up on
Yeah venture can feel super tanky with mauga e
and that strat seems to be designed to delete NA and EU from existence
AKA the hold w hard with mauga Proper go kill strat
The Koreans don’t wanna play tracer
yea this is gg
Weird
bc tracer gives the other teams a chance
Venture mauga you actually just walk at them
None of them stepped up
masaa has good beats at least
lol jake
ghost dies too much
Kai has been hitting shots but he's getting killed at the worst moments
the hoddie
Dying on window the moment it drops is horrible
unless they lock in now its over
Plus Landon Astro is just better like Jake said
You trust that they can deal with the tracer so now seicoe can just cook on the echo
Actually I think I understand the Havana pick lowkey
Gamble on Havana so that even if you lose you go to midtown and assume you win your best map and Gibraltar which is ur worst map isn't on the table
3-2 im feeling it
how has the game been so far?
ssg won first two maps
close or not?
first one close second ssg kinda dominated
oof
The audio hurts
thank god vestola didnt pop ult
Someone stop this guy man
holy fuck they are getting beat down
what happened dude
Not looking so ez4ence
ult advantage for last fight too
what the fuck are they doing
They're just the lesser team
ence is so boomed out
there has never been such a one sided ence ssg match
this map SSG was just better on every role
i feel like all of them are underperforming except kai but kai cant carry
and sparkr is just better than him
bc ssg learned how to beat the sig comp now ence is uncomfortable every map
they might look better here tho
I think sticking with the bread and butter is the best option here
Bc ssg started beating it so they stopped but now
Yup
no backbone tho
So maybe ENCE can steal this
no i mean ence and ssg usually do ram mirror and its always close
idk what the fuck they are doing today
ssg just looks better today
kevster mei going hard lol
SSG almost flipped tht lol
they shouldve just played sig since the beginning fuck
I think they should've played sig the moment backbone wasn't subbed in
just play what youve practiced dumbass crimzo
i take that back crimzo is the best coach in owcs
he just made a bad decisision with the ram
they need to win 3x in a row on ssg map pick though so that will be interesting
yeah the sig comp worked great
YES JUST PLAY WHAT YOUVE PRACTICED
idk why seicoe doesn't just swap
sounds like a little copium c:
Winston
problem is they will just play the ram into sig
2 MORE
thank u ana i thought iwas the only ence supporter here
only if they actually reverse sweep though
Ong lmfao
Brain is huge fr
that hold was ez4ence
I think ssg goes push
idk the only reason i want ssg to win is cuz i feel like they would have better odds vs falcons in losers finals
Esperanca maybe
cuz ence into korean teams just feels like a complete loss with forced sig
I guess they wanna play the ram here then
just know ence got a draw against falcons
Echo ram
yes the giga choke, where they only even got that far cuz of a c9?
a draw that should've been a win
that draw was bc falcons got backcapped it wasn't like they really took it to them
ence had a crazy hold on second
even with Smurf win trading they couldn't shut down proper
i just feel like ence doesnt have an answer for mauga ngl
the mauga venture genji comp
I think in the ssg match they had more positives than negatives compared to ence
they didn't diff the feeding Korean tho
yes i meant the entire comp
The issue isn't the mauga tbh the issue is shutting down the genji but you can't just ignore the mauga either
against the remaining enemies
i missaid it, they just dont have an answer for falcons on that comp
overdrive gives the venture so much presence as well
yes they have an answer to mauga but not proper genji and venture
so they do not have an answer
i was supporting ence from day kompis
mauga is not the problem
Then there isn't an answer
is what im saying
We're not saying mauga as just the hero we mean the comp in general
Did ence wins against PlayStation
Last time they played
Mauga is just the hero of reference
Each other
i meant mauga comp, not just the hero
iris, lage, me, mrball and u are the only ence fans here
I fw ence
@weary talon 4-3 lost
they do not have an answer to the nauga comp
Ahh
but if mauga is not relevant at all to why it works why would you say answer to mauga comp
maybe im stupid
Vestola is so good
wahtever
I remember in owwc when he sigma diffed hanbin
I mean yea proper is nuts
But to pretend like Mauga doesn’t hyper enable the all in playstyle is a bit silly
No it’s not proper alone. It’s the whole comp
We're not saying that we're calling it mauga comp bc it only works with mauga
mauga is relevant though? mauga enables the entire comp
The comp and the level the whole team is at
Yeah like
alr u guys know this better than me
Like nobody denies how good proper is
plus tbh I think not having that double flex lineup makes it hard
Obv he’s insane and himothy and has plenty of pop off moments even individually
Bc mirroring might just be the answer like usual
And also having Kai
But the Mauga comp itself kinda counters a lot of what eu wants to do
ja jag trodde bara inte du var här lol
Imo
Both stalker and proper were playing genji yesterday and they were both popping off ngl
Eu feels comfortable on sigma
tracer echo and genji venture seem to be the strongest DPS comps rn and only cr and falcons can genuinely run them
yeah mauga dive-brawl just runs over EU sadly
Agreed but propers genji looked a step above imo
Cassidy is also good
Oh yeah cr is in their own tier rn
Tbh I don’t think there’s a difference imo. I think it’s just cuz we’ve seen more cage blades from proper
Uh mb but even looking back not every blade was cage blade and it still looked rly good
both look great on genji tbh
Yeah I’m recalling a naked blade and it was stalker’s 3-4 k
Like I think proper is a better genji but individually mechanically at least proper is prob the best flex dps in the world at least on genji rn
falcons tank line looking like the biggest weakness is funny af though
Lip is obv better hs and I think heesang is prob the best pharah/ echo we have seen
yeah ence is so boomed
This is push. You never know who wins till it’s over
I mean sure but when ur team is that disorganized on dives n shit I think that the tank always looks the worst tbh
Not that Smurf hasn’t underperformed
But it’s not nearly as bad as ppl say imo
im not saying they suddenly are ass
I agree
just that its funny that they dont look world class atm
Yeah they should but
like Smurf looks bad but maybe that's bc fielder is too late or early on a nade yk
I think it’s always a proper tram thing
So a play that could've killed 2 turns into a feed by Smurf
sparkr is mvp for this match
Every team proper is on hyper plays around him
i just think its funny that the org with unlimited money is stuck at second best so far xd
Which is fine but they usually lack in some other place
KAI FK U
bro apply is so funny
"hadi jumped over the pride flag get him outta here!!!"
Like shock had proper but let’s be real it was just proper go carry strat and they often looked more lack luster in other areas
Since falcons had two fdps players, I believe they can play genji venture or something for the meta instead of hs
ssg is so much better the fights get scrappy
Ssg can lose 2 and still know how to play the fight and it's making the difference tbh
Are people actually getting confused on which team is which color?
I think that u don’t need to force hs at all rn
Finally did something with oc
It looks like the double flex can counter it
They’re confused cuz ence has a yellow banner but their blue
Ence looking locked
KAI LOCK IN FOR FK SAKE
They're not ready to go home
I told you it’s push. It’s not over till it’s over
Kai was shmoving
and the stagger
Sparkr was stunned by the moves
lmfao
KAIIIII
Omg
aghh
rail window is so deadly
they will get lead here
was the timing on the window too early from ghost?
Or was it just a sparkr Landon diff
KAI DIED WITH OVERCLOCK
fuck they forced ram ult
ssg is looking good on ults
Kai and masaa can't die here
huge pulse
No lamp beat might get forced earlier
Nvm they get the better beat
Damn
It was the pulse fr
so bad day for ence
No lamp to save vestola
idk what the hell they were doing today
now cr wins, ssg sweeps falcons, and ssg wins vs cr easy EU copium
KAIIIIII FKÙ
They’re gonna get their run back with falcons
im done
kai did so much last map what
that wasn't even Kai fault those last fights
kai ur a fkn disgracr
huh
He found sparkr when it mattered
kai hate needs to stop
@hybrid hollow KAI DIED WITH OVERLOCK
kai was one of the better players for ence from what ive seen
But the pulse for seicoe was huge getting the lamp out early
Seicoe diffed kev
XDDDD @lavish prism
yea kev underperformed today
ence in general just got outplayed
Yeah but that was two fights ago not much you can do atp
kev underperformed, masaa was meh, ghost was the worse bap
Sure in hindsight if he lives there maybe the outcome is different but oh well
Yeah ghost had some bad moments
kai died with overclock in a crucial point that could turn the tables i dont think u guys understand it
As you should be
It was just embarrassing
They lost bc they just didn't play good they should be sent home after tht
kai ruined my mood
Classic na mid
What other game does uber cast?
3 2023 owl grand champions. They needed checkmate lol
he got 1tapped by window rail? not much he can do there
They need to hit the mountains and train fr
Vega was not ready
like huh
Someone was losing iq on mauga
My thoughts exactly
Lenny was ok until push
@lavish prism bad positioninh
The lights were too bright for Toronto fr
NA players just cant compete, need korean imports to have a chance c:
Didn’t a couple of owl team fight over vega and then neither picked him up?
Yeah he didn't get picked up bc around that time ppl kinda knew it was owls last season
I think Vega has promise but experience genuinely matters at this level
Take care buddy
i still dont understand how you blame him for the entire loss, when kev underperfomed hard, and the backline got diffed
It was a team diff
cant get good experience in the NA region though
Ence fans when they have to accept they were always the underdog
its just funny how ana acts like kai is the single reason ence lost
absolute domination
when ence just was worse
Vega dying before last fight in circuit was so annoying
Vega actually pissed me off that whole map
idk i cant see NA becoming competitive
They hold there if Vega doesn't die
kai did well today compared to his usual performance
It's so infuriating
cant say the same for the rest
like make the best possible team out of NA players without imports
I believe so as well
Seicoe coming for kevster spot lowkey
kevster played good because hes kevster but he needs to pop off for ence to win
40k dmg
hes literally our proper
Played good is a stretch
He was kinda missing on that midtown attack and havana
he played bad compared to how he usually does
ence was just worse on every role
I mean in an elimination match if you're not playing at it best then ur throwing
yep
Jake gotta have hot takes
there isnt a single player on ence that played better than their equivalent
ssg backline better as usual and vestola and kevster underperformed
jake has some of the worst takes i ever heard
holy
just worse overall
I don’t think it’s that hot. His logic is that falcon’s already played two eu teams and know the comp.
jake just has a major NA bias too, knows Korea is the best region, but doesnt wanna admit NA is the worst
i mean now he kinda has to
Christfer is actually a great coach tho
His understanding of this squad and how they need to play is crazy
My EU copium, CR falcons is close, falcons drops down, Hadi diffs Hanbin and smurf and wins, they then ride the momentum and 3-0 CR
peak EU copium
Lmfao
I don't think coaches get enough credit when you have super strong teams like this
Let’s get it
EU copium ftw!
I mean honestly falcons could be winnable IF ssg figures out a good answer to the Mauga comp
Imho
Oh EWC is on the 24th. Finally I know the dates
(honestly im just satisfied NA didnt win a single actual game)
Because when it wasn’t the Mauga comp it was winnable
leave giga based holy
Falcons still prob wins either way but
Once again, they’ll get second place in World Cup
ssg are not goats of eu yet if we dominate on ewc we'll be even
I mean
Giga cope
China
we had a good run
shit on NA
Ence is 3-0 to SSG rn I think it's safe to say they run eu
did ence win a single important game vs SSG?
Over ence
and TM is gone
4 Korean teams
so ssg is the best
Like months ago when ssg was dogshit
Ssg got their shit under control tho so
yep we 3-0 in stage 1
they beat us in stage 2 and major
I think now they are a much better team than ence
Whoever wins major gets an automatic qualification to EWC?
not goat
No y'all wouldn't
Yeah
They've lost to SSG every time after stage 1
Yeah as of rn
ssg was shit stage 1
one win in world cup would not make them even
Stage 1 ssg was a big let down but they turned it around
we shit on them stage 1
stage 2 was closed
close
we got dominated now
but we can come back in ewc
I mean tbh I just don’t think of it that way
so ence won against them once, ssg beat them ever since, won a stage, and what achievment do ence have?
ence havent won a EU stage yet
TM was winning every eu trophy for like two years. They were the best rush team for the longest time. Unfortunately they’d fucked and that makes me sad
Stage 1 they had to incorporate two new players into the system
It’s not about “who is lore even” it’s about “who has recently been better”
if only owcs happened a year earlier
After seicoe and Astro got absorbed into the hivemind ENCE literally can't beat them
Also SSG has a stage
As of rn ssg has looked much better than ence following stage 2, then faceit, and now the major
easy pred
And tbh I thought ssg was always the best western team
im back. ENCE COULD HARD STOMP IF THEY HAD CLOUDY IDC
Hey…at least they won stage 1. It’s not like OWCS was a nightmare for them the whole time lol
yeah but ever since theyre just gone sadly
wouldve liked to see peak TM in lan
The problem is ence isn't flexible and they don't have the same understanding of their bread and butter like ssg
ence fan with the least copium
its true tho
No prob not
it is unfortunately not true
why is everybody an ence denier 😭
They lost their only tank for some reason and their main support as well. And then comes Dallas major and literally missing 3 players 😢
I'm not fucking with the cloudy angle
where is the underdog hype
cuz they lost?
@hybrid hollow its true
Not true man
ssg is just the better team, won a stage, won against them in all recent games
ence is just number 2
Bestola best sig in the world he will carry us through second half of 2024
its not over yet
And tbh the only underdog I rooted for was nrg because they are a funny content team that is fun to watch
I think SSG just wants to be nice to their eu brothers by saying the games are always close
Everyone else Idrc
chadi too nice
Chadi doesn't have a toxic bone in him
HADI MY BELOVED. Hadi honestly has saved my life, everything from his manner, his rather charming laugh, and his witty words I knew just from first sight, I was in love. I've never fully admitted my love for this beautiful chad. But, my time has come that I must come to terms with my identity. I am more than just a Hadi simp. This is the first time I have ever felt true love towards something. With my whole heart, I can admit that Hadi means the world to me.
Why is that FRAUD coach on my desk
saying its not usually close is actually unfair
GET HIM OUT OF MY SIGHT
yes seems like ssg is just getting better and better vs ence
Sure but going into today I didn’t think it would be close
Ssg has gotten better and better since stage 2 and ence did not match that
I don't want to hear a word from casores rn
And upper finals of stage 2
Which imo was shown in the faceit league and the quality of games going into today from ssg
idk the only player on ence team thats better than their ssg equivalent is kevster, and that is arguable after today c:
Not to say ence wasn’t good, they are good
Very good
But ssg is just much better than any other western team at this point
like there isnt really a player on ence i would take over their SSG equal
Call it cope but TM was gonna beat ence both games if it wasn’t for Kevster’s huge clutches at the very end both games
are you an ssg fan?
the fraud coach is unfortunately spitting facts rn
Going in I thought honestly they Toronto would also be better than ence but they played like shit and are evidently not just underperforming but as of rn worse than ence
i guess? i kinda like their players, i also really like kevster vestola and kai though
Cause on paper Toronto is better but because ig NA moment they just throw for fun lmfao
While ence plays well
And has patience
Not even the team just isn't locked in fr
Nah it’s not even a player thing tbh
It’s literally their team play was so much worse
They lack understanding as a team fr
Map 4 if anything someone looked the worst
saying kevster being better than seicoe is arguable is stretching it
TD just use to the shit scrims and low level of competition in NA that they just weren’t ready for the faster tempo
not understanding I mean but like execution is the only word I have
overall yes, currently? the last few days seicoe kinda locked in from the ssg games ive seen
Toronto was never forced to be better until now
and today seicoe diffed kevster
Yeah kevster is better than seicoe fs but I think the rest of ssg is better than their counterparts, ESPECIALLY the backline
and i do believe kevster is better
the only time they lost happened when they were sick so the moment they won stage 2 they were probably onna ego high fr
kevster is a better overall player
I mean again you can only push history so far
Shu looking into your soul
He really is lol
cant sharpen a knife with a old tire
yes for teams but for individual players recent history matters a lot
On paper and historically Toronto is undoubtedly a better team than ence, but the reality is that those players played worse yesterday
I think stage 3 is gonna be great tho
Recent history sure
Is he tho? Seicoe was stuck on a mid af owl team and even then he was popping off on Seicoe. Ever since owcs, imo Seicoe just been playing better than kev the whole time
this was a reality check for Toronto and ENCE
But recent history shows seicoe is matching kev
and seicoe has recently matched kev?
this is crazy talk
I think kev is better but seicoe is still rly matching him every game
Bro how is that crazy
huh?
im convinced you guys have bias for ssg
how?
says the guy with ENCE in his name?
Is SSG gonna play Seicoe backbone? Two flex dmg
I’m literally saying kev is better but seicoe has looked rly good recently
Have you not watched overwatch until now?
kevster is definitely a better player than seicoe, like what?
he will
I agree but recently it’s been rly close
If you ask me, I’d pick Seicoe over kev
Nah
Since stage 1
the better player has been outpaced multiple times on multiple maps
Eh
sure, he also has a better team
he got harddiffed by seicoe today, and seicoe has looked around as good as kev in stage 2 after
harddiffed is a stretch
today?
Again I don’t disagree but like it’s very even rn
not very
I think kevster is better but it's not like its a huge gap
It’s not “kevster is obv 20x better”
kevster is a little better
Basically
If his tracer isn’t huge gapping Youbi tracer then he’s not gapping Seicoe
we cant tell anything from just this tournament
How they've been going at it since the start of the year?
you said we need to see more like they haven't played over 8 maps against each other
See more? I’ve been saying Seicoe been playing great since stage 1. Kev hasn’t been the best since owcs.
yes im not talking about ssg vs ence lol
Stage 1 too ssg looked terrible but like bro why keep holding that to them
kevster is almost always the mvp for ence
Who cares tho it's Korean time
seicoe has better teammates
who u got ur money on
Yeah like what? You gonna give that to Kai? Ain’t an achievement
falcons or raccoon
again were saying he is the better player, but there isnt that big of a gap at this point in time
Freaking animals
Racoons
Heesang got a point to prove so he's extra locked gotta go with cr
Should win
you act like kevster is a good compared to mortal seicoe
hes always mvp and ence is second best in eu
cr should win
so 2 votes raccoons
that says something in my opinion
3 votes
Everyone knows kevster is good
Accolades are stupid
how big do you think the gap is between seicoe and kevster then?
Best flex dps eu prob
But like it’s not as big of a gap as you say it is
Esp off tracer
Going 4-1 in stage 1? And then losing again to SSG isn’t really an achievement. He’s the best on a losing team woho
????
not arguably imo
Than kev
IM JEALOUS every time I see them have coffee
not at all arguable
Imo
he solo carries his hitscan and backline to be the second best team in eu
Alright see you after map 1 lol
they are close in skill but kevster is a tier above him
ok mirror mauga
Sure but not to sound harsh but there aren’t that many amazing eu teams either
MAUGA MIRROR NOOOOO
close but a tier above? huh? its either one or the other
I THOUGHT WE ESCAPED THIS HELL
Like what else are they competing with other than ssg
yea i believe raccoons are winning this first map
hes one tier below
Oh ahu smurf is back
falcons 3:2 cr
Thats hot asf
damn they getting destroyed
tf is cr doing
gg
people been sleeping on falcons recently
I’d think falcons found their comp lmfao
They wanna go doom to ignore the mauga but falcons is too stacked to do tht
nag cr throwing
mf their team is giga stacked
how that doom punch hit
Yeah this mauga shit looks crazy
bullshit
PROPER IS HIM BRO
I mean both teams are
heesang is more of a new guy
Both teams have either the 1 or 2 best in their respective roles
We all know their team is stacked but u can’t pretend like they looked way less organized than cr going into this
I wouldn't say that after he left that shock team he's been great
Same with junbin
Like I again agree falcons are cracked but cr SHOULD be the favorites
Yeah this doom comp ain't the move
cr too though? huh
heesang and proper were on o2 together with junbin lol
long ass time he even scrim agaist dragons and seoul in there prime
Oh proper stalker are locked in
doom into mauga just isnt it
Damn that’s a roll
junbin is probably gonna mirror mauga or ball next round
Proper😩😩😩
We're balling folks
i mean if he can solo carry his hitscan and backline to be able to compete with ssg i'd say hes defintely better than seicoe
Eu might be cooked
Yee haw
I’m sorry but that’s just extremely wrong. You can’t have one player carry a team at the top level. Also carried them? Against who? Exo? Ataraxia? They lost to SSG and TM in first stage AND lost to SSG again. They only got second place cuz TM didn’t have a tank.
smurf is just unkillable here
Why did he just tickle his beam at Smurf lol
idk
and venture makes them undivable ngl
damn
i said they can compete with ssg which in my opinion is pretty good, and if kevster was switched with seicoe ence would not be where they are at
I think the comp is just better fr
smurf isnt doing that much
ya
hes just standing there and living
the ball comp should beat the mauga comp
literally unkillable
Maybe they’d start winning lol
how
He threw before
They might just force the dive mirror next map
how?
Not really at least on koth
weird thing is max can play mauga too
Who can't play mauga
The venture kinda counters ball hard
I mean
mauga meta just favours flc
damn
Unless you are named someone on map 4
if they had seicoe you mean?
I think they have to mirror lowkey
now i know you're trolling if thats what u mean haha
You force dive next map and mirror the mauga from there on out
Bro I’m split on who to cheer for
Dude all I’m saying is that you’re giving him too much credit
On one hand I fw Smurf and proper and chiyo as players a lot