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wise orbit
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ence will lose some dumbass dive map but will win everthing else

paper totem
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Dive is peak

wise orbit
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ence needs to get chase out of ukraine bro

vale cobalt
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ence 3-1

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racoon 3-2

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ence 3-2 falcons

plush grail
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vestola clears

vale cobalt
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ence 4-3 racoon

wise orbit
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I agree with all ur predictions ana

vale cobalt
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tack bror

paper totem
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Wish game started sooner

crystal timber
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i think overwatch clears

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thats my hot take

paper totem
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Ok I gtg. @vale cobalt if ENCE wins I will derank to silver for real

plush grail
crystal timber
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I’ll be on standby

wise orbit
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i will miss firest map :(

crystal timber
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prepared to boost (ow its a joke)

paper totem
weary scarab
cloud latch
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Ian you should join r/cow discord

plush grail
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i think im in it

cloud latch
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Much more fun ow esport chats

plush grail
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or i might have left

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no i left it lol

weary scarab
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bro the dps dif will be too much vs falc

plush grail
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tbf this chat went downhill after owl ended

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i just use it because i love shitposting here

cloud latch
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What happened to the chat I loved

plush grail
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post owl it was fine just inactive

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world cup changed it into a shitshow

crystal timber
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Lore dropping

hard forge
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lord save us from seeing the monstrosity that is kai sojourn today

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i will cry if i have to watch it

errant hornet
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Kai did well yesterday honestly

hard forge
uncut drum
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ssg easy win

hard forge
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gotta stick to my guns

errant hornet
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I mean he did well

hard forge
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ssg 3:1

cloud latch
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I can’t see ence winning

hard forge
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not happening

hybrid hollow
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SSG wins it all today chat

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I believe

cloud latch
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Unless falcons did a bit too much exposing them

static pond
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ya i know tht i just thought he was known for his dva

errant hornet
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Mer1t did do better individually yesterday imo but at the same time it’s easier to shine when ur team is overall playing worse ig

cloud latch
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So maybe I can see a world where ence wins

hard forge
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but i hope to see the game a bit more competitive considering how well they did vs falcons

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the last time i watched ence vs ssg it was one of the most entertaining games ive seen in a while

plush grail
hard forge
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chadi rein WILL make an appearance no doubt

errant hornet
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I think it should be competitive but tbh I think especially following faceit SSG has looked noticeably better than ence

hybrid hollow
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we didn't wanna win ig

hard forge
hybrid hollow
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but go Hadi

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He's gonna do it for the love of the west

hard forge
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ence crowd dead asf

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rip

hybrid hollow
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he's gonna take that hammer into battle and bring down the Koreans 1 by 1

errant hornet
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Given ence surprised me yesterday and they looked better than I thought but also Toronto threw immeasurably hard

errant hornet
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Hadi gonna show Junbin who’s the real g

hybrid hollow
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If junbin ain't ballin he's falling

hard forge
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should i use that hadi copypasta rn

hybrid hollow
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HADI MY BELOVED. Hadi honestly has saved my life, everything from his manner, his rather charming laugh, and his witty words I knew just from first sight, I was in love. I've never fully admitted my love for this beautiful chad. But, my time has come that I must come to terms with my identity. I am more than just a Hadi simp. This is the first time I have ever felt true love towards something. With my whole heart, I can admit that Hadi means the world to me.

hard forge
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HADI MY BELOVED. Hadi honestly has saved my life, everything from his manner, his rather charming laugh, and his witty words I knew just from first sight, I was in love. I've never fully admitted my love for this beautiful chad. But, my time has come that I must come to terms with my identity. I am more than just a Hadi simp. This is the first time I have ever felt true love towards something. With my whole heart, I can admit that Hadi means the world to me.

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LETS GOOOOO

static pond
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everything rush said about hadi is true

hybrid hollow
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Omg merch in hand as well the aura is too much

static pond
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who playing>?

hybrid hollow
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SSG v ENCE

hard forge
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hadi actually rein built i cant take this much aura

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hes so cool

plush grail
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tough game my ass vestola tops hadi

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irl

hard forge
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swooning

hybrid hollow
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wait Vestola is the shortest player on ence?

hard forge
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#Chadi

hybrid hollow
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the Porsche in the background kills me everytime 😭

hard forge
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LMAO

plush grail
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i still wonder what the fuck they want with the collab

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do they expect us to buy porsche

hybrid hollow
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I mean money

static pond
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money

hard forge
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it so random

plush grail
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or just getting the name out there more

static pond
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porche doest get shit

hard forge
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i mean to be fair prime overwatch had crazy good collabs

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maybe theyre tryna return to the good days

hybrid hollow
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At least we have a collab

hard forge
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ong

static pond
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same rerason bmw is in league of legends esports

errant hornet
hard forge
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+investment

hybrid hollow
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Who knows maybe Hadi in a Porsche can increase sales by 200%

static pond
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u htink any ow player gonna buy tht overpirce ass cars

errant hornet
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For one, the market of people that have nice pcs and play online games like overwatch will have some overlap yes

hard forge
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its very possible

static pond
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we spend money ont eh game we aint go shit

hard forge
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lotsa middle aged dads in the fandom

errant hornet
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For two the point isn’t to just make ow played buy cars

hybrid hollow
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Look at my goat astro inting

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The mental int

errant hornet
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It’s to get the brand into the psyche of a demographic

hybrid hollow
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flexing his aura before they lock in

hard forge
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classic astro int

errant hornet
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Like “word of mouth”

static pond
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genshin players have a better chnace to buy there car

hard forge
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love this guy

hybrid hollow
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Sparkr soj is actually kinda rare

wise orbit
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nvm i didnt miss anything

hybrid hollow
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I've only seen him pull it out like twice

wise orbit
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ence won first fight pog

hybrid hollow
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If seicoe lamps a little quicker that copy would've been soooo huge

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Still won the fight tho

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Omg

wise orbit
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i cant even focus i ate so much food

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cmon ence

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i think we have this map

plush grail
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what did u eat

static pond
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ramen to good

wise orbit
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burgir

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i ate 3

hard forge
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borgir

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naurrrrr cmon hadi

hybrid hollow
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This might be the best match of the event besides raccoons vs falcons

static pond
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i think of bugsnax everytime someone says burger

wise orbit
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hadi needs to play rein if he wants to win

errant hornet
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Yeah this is a good game

hybrid hollow
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If Smurf locks his PayPal ofc

errant hornet
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Eh I don’t think rein is as good as ram here tbh

hybrid hollow
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I would ask why he's on torb but it's actually so common on this map now

wise orbit
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bestola diffs hadi on ram unfortunately

hybrid hollow
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I think they both have decent ram play

plush grail
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i hear voices in my leaft ear wtf

hybrid hollow
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Not a comfort for either of them

hybrid hollow
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There's fans

plush grail
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what!!!

hard forge
hybrid hollow
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I wanna watch the ssg codes so bad

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the way sparkr actually ends up on these angles at the perfect time I just need to know

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Sparkr didn't get beat and lived some how

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Landon too locked

hard forge
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HOLY SHIT

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ACTUAL CHAAAAD

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TBAG HIS ASS

uncut drum
hybrid hollow
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This is the overwatch we give up our time for

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Not that mauga bs

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CHADIIII

hard forge
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FUCK MAUGA

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yall saw nun

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i neeeed those comms

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carnally

glass sleet
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I feel like SSG had a better chance against Korean teams. So they should beat ence

hybrid hollow
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Need someone to fully leak the team comms right to my dms

wise orbit
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warm up map

hybrid hollow
glass sleet
hybrid hollow
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nah

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Even tho m80 is a worse team they started finding answers to the mauga venture shit

hard forge
wise orbit
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smurf mauga was the only reason ence got a draw on numbani

hybrid hollow
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I think it's possible but raccoons probably stomp them

glass sleet
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Genji mauga combo is disgusting. It’s always a team fight win combo

hybrid hollow
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Gotta have hope

glass sleet
hybrid hollow
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like the exact same comp as falcons

glass sleet
hybrid hollow
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SSG still lost that map unfortunately tho bc the ult economy was too fucked on the last point

wise orbit
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didnt ssg spawn camp m80 on this map

hybrid hollow
glass sleet
hybrid hollow
wise orbit
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dude these fucking casters

hybrid hollow
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I mean he's not wrong

wise orbit
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people forget how close they are in skill

glass sleet
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What stream are you watching

hybrid hollow
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Main broadcast

uncut drum
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oooo

wise orbit
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cloudy

hybrid hollow
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I love the desk what can I say

uncut drum
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sgg are going to cook here

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this map is them

hybrid hollow
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I might swap to apply tho

wise orbit
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hadi does not want to play rein today it seems

glass sleet
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I’m watching emongg today but if he runs another ad mid game, I’ll go to the main stream lol

uncut drum
hybrid hollow
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maybe no rein bc he was expecting the ram

uncut drum
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and the ram ram is a lot better

hybrid hollow
uncut drum
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then ram rien

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even if the rein is hadi

hybrid hollow
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And it's not that likely that vestola goes mauga unlike hawk

wise orbit
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why does vestola keep dying today fuck man

errant hornet
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that fight was not it

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they just fought out of cass los

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like the only thing cass can hit htere is blocking ram

hybrid hollow
wise orbit
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they know gibralatr is fucked

hybrid hollow
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the PGE effect is real

errant hornet
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that fight was not vestola's fault tbf

hybrid hollow
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He can't get it out his mind

uncut drum
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sgg win on gibralatr

wise orbit
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whyyyyy did they choose havana

uncut drum
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they play the rush on it

glass sleet
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Full hold incoming?

errant hornet
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lol

uncut drum
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dive

hybrid hollow
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They break the hold so at least they're better than m80 here lol

uncut drum
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lol

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nah sgg will play the rien tp

glass sleet
uncut drum
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did you not watch them in owl

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they did it before into shock and won

errant hornet
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obv m80 didnt even look that great going in

hybrid hollow
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SSG isn't London tho the hadi monkey is real

errant hornet
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the ram pick is generally better

uncut drum
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still

errant hornet
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rn

uncut drum
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they will have fun

errant hornet
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mb?

hybrid hollow
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I wish Toronto would walk with beat like that

errant hornet
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lmao real

uncut drum
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cause ence cant play anything well on gibralatr

glass sleet
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I wish TD actually played well for their roster

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So disappointed

errant hornet
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yeah

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TD rly underperformed

uncut drum
errant hornet
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like hard

uncut drum
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the mid curse

errant hornet
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ong

glass sleet
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Mhm

uncut drum
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will always be there

hybrid hollow
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huge boop

errant hornet
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EU is obv better now

hybrid hollow
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That's my hitscan

errant hornet
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I went in thinking NA was the worst but that it would be more SSG vs TOR

uncut drum
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it was always better

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na was always worse

hard forge
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AGAIN THE TBAG

uncut drum
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we had tm ssg ence

hard forge
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THEY HATE KAI

uncut drum
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over na

hybrid hollow
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Kev tryna sniff the backcap

errant hornet
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like I went in with M80 > ENCE > TOR > SSG

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for the west

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but it ended up being more

hybrid hollow
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Nah that peel by astro was crazy

hard forge
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LMAOOOOO

hybrid hollow
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Saved Landon by a hair

hard forge
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KAI GETTING ABUSED

uncut drum
errant hornet
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M80 < TOR < ENCE < SSG

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I think rn

glass sleet
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Huh

errant hornet
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but ssg ence is close so ence could end up being better

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or wait

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other way around

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I did the wrong >

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I meant <

hard forge
errant hornet
uncut drum
errant hornet
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I cleaned by keyboard the other day

uncut drum
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like what are you saying

errant hornet
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and I accidently mixed up

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the > and < keys

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lmfao

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so I typed the wrong one

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gg

uncut drum
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i was like nah dude is on some shit

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saying that

errant hornet
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yeah no ssg is better than ence who is better than tor who is better than ence

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basically

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but going in I just thought toronto was at least better than ence but worse than SSG

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GHOST WHERE IS THE LAMPO

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gg

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actually a very very good push from ence though

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havana is veryh hard to push to say the least

hybrid hollow
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Kevster Mei idk how I feel Abt it

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Specifically the blizzards

errant hornet
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kevster mei isnt that great yeah

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I stg it never works

hybrid hollow
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Has any team beat the venture

errant hornet
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uh idk

uncut drum
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cr maybe

static pond
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ctazy raccon

errant hornet
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I stg I thought this hero was so useless but ig it has enough niche to work

hybrid hollow
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That's how it is sometimes

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Heros that just thrive in this environment

errant hornet
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and their niche just so happens to be pretty good rn

hybrid hollow
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Kinda like brig

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Brig is niche but she's very good in that dive denial

glass sleet
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Why do people say venture‘s ult sucks? It’s really good. It’s only mid if enemy has shields and stuff

wise orbit
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this map might be over

errant hornet
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yeah but going in I thought that dive denial niche was way more applicable than venture who I thought was just too easy to kite and otther dps were better

hybrid hollow
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A lot of angles and height to just avoid the ult

errant hornet
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I think the venture is also super enabled by mauga being stupid design

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like the falcons comp basically its good asf for venture

glass sleet
hybrid hollow
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Yeah venture can feel super tanky with mauga e

errant hornet
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and that strat seems to be designed to delete NA and EU from existence

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AKA the hold w hard with mauga Proper go kill strat

glass sleet
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The Koreans don’t wanna play tracer

wise orbit
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yea this is gg

glass sleet
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Weird

hybrid hollow
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bc tracer gives the other teams a chance

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Venture mauga you actually just walk at them

wise orbit
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ence is not locked in today

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this is over

hybrid hollow
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damn

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The Havana gamble wasn't worth

wise orbit
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kevster has not stepped up today

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kai is doing fine ig

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vestola dies too much

hybrid hollow
wise orbit
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masaa has good beats at least

uncut drum
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lol jake

wise orbit
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ghost dies too much

hybrid hollow
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Kai has been hitting shots but he's getting killed at the worst moments

uncut drum
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the hoddie

hybrid hollow
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Dying on window the moment it drops is horrible

wise orbit
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unless they lock in now its over

hybrid hollow
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Plus Landon Astro is just better like Jake said

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You trust that they can deal with the tracer so now seicoe can just cook on the echo

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Actually I think I understand the Havana pick lowkey

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Gamble on Havana so that even if you lose you go to midtown and assume you win your best map and Gibraltar which is ur worst map isn't on the table

wise orbit
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3-2 im feeling it

lavish prism
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how has the game been so far?

wise orbit
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ssg won first two maps

lavish prism
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close or not?

wise orbit
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first one close second ssg kinda dominated

lavish prism
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oof

hybrid hollow
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The audio hurts

wise orbit
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thank god vestola didnt pop ult

hybrid hollow
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Someone stop this guy man

wise orbit
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poor ghost

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it has not been a good day for ence

lavish prism
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holy fuck they are getting beat down

hybrid hollow
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A Lucio stagger too

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Jesus man

wise orbit
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what happened dude

hybrid hollow
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Not looking so ez4ence

lavish prism
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ult advantage for last fight too

wise orbit
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what the fuck are they doing

hybrid hollow
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They're just the lesser team

lavish prism
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the barrier

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rip

hybrid hollow
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Yeah ence just gave up that fight

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Nobody was on the same page there

lavish prism
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ence is so boomed out

wise orbit
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there has never been such a one sided ence ssg match

lavish prism
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this map SSG was just better on every role

wise orbit
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i feel like all of them are underperforming except kai but kai cant carry

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and sparkr is just better than him

hybrid hollow
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bc ssg learned how to beat the sig comp now ence is uncomfortable every map

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they might look better here tho

wise orbit
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ence usually dont play sig against ssg either

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at least not recently

hybrid hollow
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I think sticking with the bread and butter is the best option here

hybrid hollow
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Yup

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no backbone tho

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So maybe ENCE can steal this

wise orbit
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no i mean ence and ssg usually do ram mirror and its always close

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idk what the fuck they are doing today

lavish prism
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ssg just looks better today

hybrid hollow
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yeah it's gonna be hard to get the rein in without the sym

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great wall

lavish prism
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kevster mei going hard lol

hybrid hollow
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SSG almost flipped tht lol

wise orbit
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they shouldve just played sig since the beginning fuck

hybrid hollow
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I think they should've played sig the moment backbone wasn't subbed in

wise orbit
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just play what youve practiced dumbass crimzo

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i take that back crimzo is the best coach in owcs

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he just made a bad decisision with the ram

lavish prism
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they need to win 3x in a row on ssg map pick though so that will be interesting

hybrid hollow
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Great hold

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It's hard to break the sig without the tp

lavish prism
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yeah the sig comp worked great

wise orbit
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YES JUST PLAY WHAT YOUVE PRACTICED

hybrid hollow
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idk why seicoe doesn't just swap

wise orbit
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BESTOLA SIG KING

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they would've won by this point if they just played sig

lavish prism
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sounds like a little copium c:

errant hornet
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Winston

weary scarab
vale cobalt
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2 MORE

hybrid hollow
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now the Havana gamble was worth

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Bc they can't force Gibraltar now

wise orbit
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thank u ana i thought iwas the only ence supporter here

lavish prism
errant hornet
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Ong lmfao

wise orbit
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that hold was ez4ence

hybrid hollow
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I think ssg goes push

lavish prism
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idk the only reason i want ssg to win is cuz i feel like they would have better odds vs falcons in losers finals

hybrid hollow
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Esperanca maybe

lavish prism
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cuz ence into korean teams just feels like a complete loss with forced sig

hybrid hollow
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I guess they wanna play the ram here then

wise orbit
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just know ence got a draw against falcons

hybrid hollow
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Echo ram

lavish prism
wise orbit
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a draw that should've been a win

hybrid hollow
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that draw was bc falcons got backcapped it wasn't like they really took it to them

lavish prism
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yeah

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falcons dominated hard outside of that once they picked the mauga comp

wise orbit
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ence had a crazy hold on second

hybrid hollow
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even with Smurf win trading they couldn't shut down proper

lavish prism
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i just feel like ence doesnt have an answer for mauga ngl

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the mauga venture genji comp

hybrid hollow
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I think in the ssg match they had more positives than negatives compared to ence

wise orbit
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what do u mean?

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ence have diffed every mauga they've met

hybrid hollow
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they didn't diff the feeding Korean tho

lavish prism
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yes but they got hardfucked by proper genji

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xd

wise orbit
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yes

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proper is the problem

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not mauga

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tho the cageblade is crazy

lavish prism
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yes i meant the entire comp

hybrid hollow
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The issue isn't the mauga tbh the issue is shutting down the genji but you can't just ignore the mauga either

lavish prism
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against the remaining enemies

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i missaid it, they just dont have an answer for falcons on that comp

hybrid hollow
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overdrive gives the venture so much presence as well

wise orbit
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yes they have an answer to mauga but not proper genji and venture

lavish prism
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so they do not have an answer

vale cobalt
wise orbit
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mauga is not the problem

hybrid hollow
wise orbit
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is what im saying

hybrid hollow
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We're not saying mauga as just the hero we mean the comp in general

weary talon
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Last time they played

hybrid hollow
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Mauga is just the hero of reference

weary talon
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Each other

lavish prism
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i meant mauga comp, not just the hero

vale cobalt
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iris, lage, me, mrball and u are the only ence fans here

weary talon
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I fw ence

vale cobalt
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@weary talon 4-3 lost

lavish prism
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they do not have an answer to the nauga comp

weary talon
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Ahh

wise orbit
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but if mauga is not relevant at all to why it works why would you say answer to mauga comp

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maybe im stupid

weary talon
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Vestola is so good

wise orbit
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wahtever

weary talon
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I remember in owwc when he sigma diffed hanbin

errant hornet
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But to pretend like Mauga doesn’t hyper enable the all in playstyle is a bit silly

glass sleet
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No it’s not proper alone. It’s the whole comp

hybrid hollow
lavish prism
glass sleet
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The comp and the level the whole team is at

errant hornet
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Yeah like

wise orbit
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alr u guys know this better than me

errant hornet
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Like nobody denies how good proper is

hybrid hollow
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plus tbh I think not having that double flex lineup makes it hard

errant hornet
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Obv he’s insane and himothy and has plenty of pop off moments even individually

hybrid hollow
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Bc mirroring might just be the answer like usual

lavish prism
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and only vestola

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also ence backline

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is eh

errant hornet
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But the Mauga comp itself kinda counters a lot of what eu wants to do

wise orbit
errant hornet
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Imo

glass sleet
weary talon
hybrid hollow
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tracer echo and genji venture seem to be the strongest DPS comps rn and only cr and falcons can genuinely run them

lavish prism
errant hornet
weary talon
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Cassidy is also good

lavish prism
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i still think CR will win though

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they just look so damn good

errant hornet
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Oh yeah cr is in their own tier rn

glass sleet
errant hornet
lavish prism
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both look great on genji tbh

glass sleet
errant hornet
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Like I think proper is a better genji but individually mechanically at least proper is prob the best flex dps in the world at least on genji rn

lavish prism
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falcons tank line looking like the biggest weakness is funny af though

hybrid hollow
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Did he whiff the flux?

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Yikes

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The sig guy pulling a coluge

errant hornet
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Lip is obv better hs and I think heesang is prob the best pharah/ echo we have seen

lavish prism
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yeah ence is so boomed

glass sleet
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This is push. You never know who wins till it’s over

errant hornet
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Not that Smurf hasn’t underperformed

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But it’s not nearly as bad as ppl say imo

lavish prism
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im not saying they suddenly are ass

glass sleet
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I agree

errant hornet
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I’d anything it’s that they just don’t play the dive amazingly

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As a group

lavish prism
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just that its funny that they dont look world class atm

errant hornet
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Yeah they should but

hybrid hollow
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like Smurf looks bad but maybe that's bc fielder is too late or early on a nade yk

errant hornet
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I think it’s always a proper tram thing

hybrid hollow
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So a play that could've killed 2 turns into a feed by Smurf

wise orbit
#

sparkr is mvp for this match

errant hornet
#

Every team proper is on hyper plays around him

lavish prism
#

i just think its funny that the org with unlimited money is stuck at second best so far xd

errant hornet
#

Which is fine but they usually lack in some other place

lavish prism
#

same with toronto and being mid

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both funny

vale cobalt
#

KAI FK U

safe marsh
#

bro apply is so funny

"hadi jumped over the pride flag get him outta here!!!"

errant hornet
#

Like shock had proper but let’s be real it was just proper go carry strat and they often looked more lack luster in other areas

glass sleet
#

Since falcons had two fdps players, I believe they can play genji venture or something for the meta instead of hs

hybrid hollow
#

ssg is so much better the fights get scrappy

lavish prism
#

ence gets both supports first and still loses the fight

#

rough

hybrid hollow
#

Ssg can lose 2 and still know how to play the fight and it's making the difference tbh

glass sleet
#

Are people actually getting confused on which team is which color?

hybrid hollow
#

I mean we haven't had team colors since owl so I'm used to it

#

wait Kai is locked

errant hornet
#

I think that u don’t need to force hs at all rn

hybrid hollow
#

Finally did something with oc

errant hornet
#

It looks like the double flex can counter it

glass sleet
#

They’re confused cuz ence has a yellow banner but their blue

hybrid hollow
#

Ence looking locked

vale cobalt
#

KAI LOCK IN FOR FK SAKE

hybrid hollow
#

They're not ready to go home

glass sleet
#

I told you it’s push. It’s not over till it’s over

hybrid hollow
#

Kai was shmoving

wise orbit
#

kai has done so much this map

#

POOR GHOST MAN

lavish prism
#

and the stagger

hybrid hollow
#

Sparkr was stunned by the moves

lavish prism
#

lmfao

vale cobalt
#

KAIIIII

hybrid hollow
#

Omg

wise orbit
#

aghh

hybrid hollow
#

rail window is so deadly

wise orbit
#

they will get lead here

lavish prism
#

landon is just so good on bap

#

holy

hybrid hollow
#

was the timing on the window too early from ghost?

#

Or was it just a sparkr Landon diff

vale cobalt
#

KAI DIED WITH OVERCLOCK

wise orbit
#

fuck they forced ram ult

lavish prism
#

ssg is looking good on ults

hybrid hollow
#

Kai and masaa can't die here

lavish prism
#

kai needs to lock in to win

#

3 ults vs 5

hybrid hollow
#

huge pulse

#

No lamp beat might get forced earlier

#

Nvm they get the better beat

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Damn

#

It was the pulse fr

wise orbit
#

so bad day for ence

hybrid hollow
#

No lamp to save vestola

wise orbit
#

idk what the hell they were doing today

lavish prism
#

now cr wins, ssg sweeps falcons, and ssg wins vs cr easy EU copium

vale cobalt
#

KAIIIIII FKÙ

glass sleet
#

They’re gonna get their run back with falcons

vale cobalt
#

im done

wise orbit
hybrid hollow
#

that wasn't even Kai fault those last fights

vale cobalt
#

kai ur a fkn disgracr

lavish prism
#

huh

hybrid hollow
#

He found sparkr when it mattered

wise orbit
#

kai hate needs to stop

vale cobalt
#

@hybrid hollow KAI DIED WITH OVERLOCK

lavish prism
#

kai was one of the better players for ence from what ive seen

hybrid hollow
#

But the pulse for seicoe was huge getting the lamp out early

glass sleet
#

Seicoe diffed kev

vale cobalt
#

XDDDD @lavish prism

wise orbit
#

yea kev underperformed today

lavish prism
#

ence in general just got outplayed

hybrid hollow
lavish prism
#

kev underperformed, masaa was meh, ghost was the worse bap

hybrid hollow
#

Sure in hindsight if he lives there maybe the outcome is different but oh well

glass sleet
#

Lol idk why but I’m still mad at TD’s performance and I’m not even a fan

hybrid hollow
#

Yeah ghost had some bad moments

vale cobalt
#

kai died with overclock in a crucial point that could turn the tables i dont think u guys understand it

hybrid hollow
#

It was just embarrassing

vale cobalt
#

before 80 meters

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anyways im done i cant

hybrid hollow
#

They lost bc they just didn't play good they should be sent home after tht

vale cobalt
#

kai ruined my mood

hybrid hollow
#

Classic na mid

glass sleet
#

What other game does uber cast?

glass sleet
wise orbit
#

its joever ence bros

#

at least we'll win ewc

lavish prism
hybrid hollow
#

Vega was not ready

lavish prism
#

like huh

hybrid hollow
#

Someone was losing iq on mauga

glass sleet
hybrid hollow
#

Lenny was ok until push

lavish prism
#

NA should remain mid so i can laugh at some of my friends

#

ez

vale cobalt
#

@lavish prism bad positioninh

hybrid hollow
#

The lights were too bright for Toronto fr

lavish prism
#

NA players just cant compete, need korean imports to have a chance c:

glass sleet
vale cobalt
#

im done guys cya

#

too cringe by kai

hybrid hollow
#

I think Vega has promise but experience genuinely matters at this level

glass sleet
lavish prism
hybrid hollow
#

It was a team diff

lavish prism
hybrid hollow
#

Ence fans when they have to accept they were always the underdog

wise orbit
#

i dont even have any excuses ence just played bad today

#

ssg won this fair and square

lavish prism
#

its just funny how ana acts like kai is the single reason ence lost

wise orbit
#

absolute domination

lavish prism
#

when ence just was worse

glass sleet
hybrid hollow
lavish prism
#

idk i cant see NA becoming competitive

hybrid hollow
#

They hold there if Vega doesn't die

wise orbit
#

kai did well today compared to his usual performance

hybrid hollow
#

It's so infuriating

wise orbit
#

cant say the same for the rest

lavish prism
#

like make the best possible team out of NA players without imports

glass sleet
hybrid hollow
#

Seicoe coming for kevster spot lowkey

wise orbit
#

kevster played good because hes kevster but he needs to pop off for ence to win

glass sleet
#

40k dmg

wise orbit
#

hes literally our proper

lavish prism
#

he got diffed by seicoe

#

ngl

hybrid hollow
#

He was kinda missing on that midtown attack and havana

wise orbit
#

he played bad compared to how he usually does

lavish prism
#

ence was just worse on every role

hybrid hollow
#

I mean in an elimination match if you're not playing at it best then ur throwing

wise orbit
#

yep

glass sleet
#

Jake thinks SSG have a better chance against CR?

hybrid hollow
lavish prism
#

there isnt a single player on ence that played better than their equivalent

wise orbit
#

ssg backline better as usual and vestola and kevster underperformed

lavish prism
#

holy

wise orbit
#

just worse overall

glass sleet
lavish prism
#

jake just has a major NA bias too, knows Korea is the best region, but doesnt wanna admit NA is the worst

glass sleet
#

Fuk it. I agree with Jake. SSG rolls CR

lavish prism
#

i mean now he kinda has to

hybrid hollow
#

Christfer is actually a great coach tho

#

His understanding of this squad and how they need to play is crazy

lavish prism
#

peak EU copium

errant hornet
#

Lmfao

hybrid hollow
#

I don't think coaches get enough credit when you have super strong teams like this

lavish prism
#

EU copium ftw!

errant hornet
#

I mean honestly falcons could be winnable IF ssg figures out a good answer to the Mauga comp

#

Imho

glass sleet
#

Oh EWC is on the 24th. Finally I know the dates

lavish prism
#

(honestly im just satisfied NA didnt win a single actual game)

errant hornet
#

Because when it wasn’t the Mauga comp it was winnable

lavish prism
#

leave giga based holy

errant hornet
#

Falcons still prob wins either way but

glass sleet
#

Once again, they’ll get second place in World Cup

wise orbit
#

ssg are not goats of eu yet if we dominate on ewc we'll be even

errant hornet
#

I mean

uncut drum
#

China

wise orbit
#

we had a good run

errant hornet
#

Ssg are the clear favorites rn

#

Lmfao

wise orbit
#

shit on NA

hybrid hollow
#

Ence is 3-0 to SSG rn I think it's safe to say they run eu

lavish prism
errant hornet
#

Over ence

lavish prism
#

and TM is gone

glass sleet
#

4 Korean teams

lavish prism
#

so ssg is the best

errant hornet
#

Ssg got their shit under control tho so

wise orbit
#

they beat us in stage 2 and major

errant hornet
#

I think now they are a much better team than ence

wise orbit
#

but if we win in ewc we'll be even

#

ssg do not have goat status yet

glass sleet
#

Whoever wins major gets an automatic qualification to EWC?

lavish prism
#

not goat

hybrid hollow
errant hornet
#

Yeah

lavish prism
#

but best current squad

#

in EU

#

easily

hybrid hollow
#

They've lost to SSG every time after stage 1

errant hornet
lavish prism
#

ssg was shit stage 1

hybrid hollow
#

one win in world cup would not make them even

errant hornet
#

Stage 1 ssg was a big let down but they turned it around

wise orbit
#

we shit on them stage 1

#

stage 2 was closed

#

close

#

we got dominated now

#

but we can come back in ewc

errant hornet
#

I mean tbh I just don’t think of it that way

lavish prism
#

ence havent won a EU stage yet

glass sleet
#

TM was winning every eu trophy for like two years. They were the best rush team for the longest time. Unfortunately they’d fucked and that makes me sad

hybrid hollow
errant hornet
#

It’s not about “who is lore even” it’s about “who has recently been better”

lavish prism
hybrid hollow
#

After seicoe and Astro got absorbed into the hivemind ENCE literally can't beat them

lavish prism
#

Also SSG has a stage

errant hornet
#

As of rn ssg has looked much better than ence following stage 2, then faceit, and now the major

weary scarab
#

easy pred

errant hornet
#

And tbh I thought ssg was always the best western team

vale cobalt
#

im back. ENCE COULD HARD STOMP IF THEY HAD CLOUDY IDC

glass sleet
lavish prism
#

wouldve liked to see peak TM in lan

hybrid hollow
#

The problem is ence isn't flexible and they don't have the same understanding of their bread and butter like ssg

lavish prism
vale cobalt
#

its true tho

errant hornet
#

No prob not

hybrid hollow
#

it is unfortunately not true

wise orbit
#

why is everybody an ence denier 😭

glass sleet
hybrid hollow
#

I'm not fucking with the cloudy angle

wise orbit
#

where is the underdog hype

lavish prism
#

cuz they lost?

errant hornet
#

I mean I don’t hate ence at all

#

Just not as good as ssg

vale cobalt
#

@hybrid hollow its true

hybrid hollow
#

Not true man

lavish prism
#

ssg is just the better team, won a stage, won against them in all recent games

#

ence is just number 2

wise orbit
#

Bestola best sig in the world he will carry us through second half of 2024

#

its not over yet

errant hornet
#

And tbh the only underdog I rooted for was nrg because they are a funny content team that is fun to watch

glass sleet
#

I think SSG just wants to be nice to their eu brothers by saying the games are always close

errant hornet
#

Everyone else Idrc

glass sleet
hybrid hollow
#

HADI MY BELOVED. Hadi honestly has saved my life, everything from his manner, his rather charming laugh, and his witty words I knew just from first sight, I was in love. I've never fully admitted my love for this beautiful chad. But, my time has come that I must come to terms with my identity. I am more than just a Hadi simp. This is the first time I have ever felt true love towards something. With my whole heart, I can admit that Hadi means the world to me.

wise orbit
#

tbf the games are always close u cant deny that

#

except for today

hybrid hollow
#

Why is that FRAUD coach on my desk

wise orbit
#

saying its not usually close is actually unfair

hybrid hollow
#

GET HIM OUT OF MY SIGHT

lavish prism
errant hornet
lavish prism
#

next time 3-0 stomp then?

#

c:

wise orbit
#

one game

#

could be a bad day

errant hornet
#

Ssg has gotten better and better since stage 2 and ence did not match that

hybrid hollow
#

I don't want to hear a word from casores rn

glass sleet
errant hornet
#

Which imo was shown in the faceit league and the quality of games going into today from ssg

lavish prism
#

idk the only player on ence team thats better than their ssg equivalent is kevster, and that is arguable after today c:

errant hornet
#

Not to say ence wasn’t good, they are good

#

Very good

#

But ssg is just much better than any other western team at this point

lavish prism
#

like there isnt really a player on ence i would take over their SSG equal

glass sleet
#

Call it cope but TM was gonna beat ence both games if it wasn’t for Kevster’s huge clutches at the very end both games

hybrid hollow
#

the fraud coach is unfortunately spitting facts rn

errant hornet
#

Going in I thought honestly they Toronto would also be better than ence but they played like shit and are evidently not just underperforming but as of rn worse than ence

lavish prism
errant hornet
#

Cause on paper Toronto is better but because ig NA moment they just throw for fun lmfao

#

While ence plays well

#

And has patience

lavish prism
#

idk toronto is kept down by their NA players

#

NA cant compete without imports

hybrid hollow
#

Not even the team just isn't locked in fr

errant hornet
#

Nah it’s not even a player thing tbh

#

It’s literally their team play was so much worse

hybrid hollow
#

They lack understanding as a team fr

errant hornet
#

Map 4 if anything someone looked the worst

wise orbit
glass sleet
#

TD just use to the shit scrims and low level of competition in NA that they just weren’t ready for the faster tempo

hybrid hollow
#

not understanding I mean but like execution is the only word I have

lavish prism
hybrid hollow
#

Toronto was never forced to be better until now

lavish prism
#

and today seicoe diffed kevster

errant hornet
#

Yeah kevster is better than seicoe fs but I think the rest of ssg is better than their counterparts, ESPECIALLY the backline

lavish prism
#

and i do believe kevster is better

wise orbit
#

not enough to say that he is better considering kevster history

#

not even arguable

hybrid hollow
#

the only time they lost happened when they were sick so the moment they won stage 2 they were probably onna ego high fr

lavish prism
#

kevster is a better overall player

errant hornet
#

I mean again you can only push history so far

glass sleet
#

Shu looking into your soul

hybrid hollow
#

He really is lol

lavish prism
wise orbit
errant hornet
#

On paper and historically Toronto is undoubtedly a better team than ence, but the reality is that those players played worse yesterday

hybrid hollow
#

I think stage 3 is gonna be great tho

errant hornet
glass sleet
hybrid hollow
#

this was a reality check for Toronto and ENCE

errant hornet
#

But recent history shows seicoe is matching kev

lavish prism
wise orbit
#

this is crazy talk

errant hornet
#

I think kev is better but seicoe is still rly matching him every game

#

Bro how is that crazy

lavish prism
wise orbit
#

im convinced you guys have bias for ssg

hybrid hollow
#

how?

lavish prism
#

says the guy with ENCE in his name?

glass sleet
#

Is SSG gonna play Seicoe backbone? Two flex dmg

errant hornet
#

I’m literally saying kev is better but seicoe has looked rly good recently

hybrid hollow
#

Have you not watched overwatch until now?

wise orbit
#

kevster is definitely a better player than seicoe, like what?

hybrid hollow
#

Then tell him win

#

Lol

wise orbit
#

he will

errant hornet
#

I agree but recently it’s been rly close

glass sleet
#

If you ask me, I’d pick Seicoe over kev

errant hornet
#

Nah

glass sleet
#

Since stage 1

hybrid hollow
#

the better player has been outpaced multiple times on multiple maps

errant hornet
#

Eh

wise orbit
lavish prism
wise orbit
#

harddiffed is a stretch

lavish prism
#

today?

errant hornet
wise orbit
#

not very

hybrid hollow
#

I think kevster is better but it's not like its a huge gap

errant hornet
#

It’s not “kevster is obv 20x better”

wise orbit
#

u guys have a point but u are stretching it

#

we need to see more

lavish prism
#

kevster is a little better

lavish prism
#

atm

#

from my pov

glass sleet
wise orbit
#

we cant tell anything from just this tournament

hybrid hollow
#

you said we need to see more like they haven't played over 8 maps against each other

glass sleet
#

See more? I’ve been saying Seicoe been playing great since stage 1. Kev hasn’t been the best since owcs.

wise orbit
#

yes im not talking about ssg vs ence lol

errant hornet
#

Stage 1 too ssg looked terrible but like bro why keep holding that to them

wise orbit
#

kevster is almost always the mvp for ence

hybrid hollow
#

Who cares tho it's Korean time

wise orbit
#

seicoe has better teammates

velvet lintel
#

who u got ur money on

glass sleet
velvet lintel
#

falcons or raccoon

lavish prism
glass sleet
#

Freaking animals

errant hornet
#

Racoons

hybrid hollow
errant hornet
#

Should win

lavish prism
#

you act like kevster is a good compared to mortal seicoe

wise orbit
lavish prism
#

cr should win

velvet lintel
#

so 2 votes raccoons

wise orbit
#

that says something in my opinion

velvet lintel
#

3 votes

errant hornet
#

Everyone knows kevster is good

hybrid hollow
#

Accolades are stupid

lavish prism
errant hornet
#

Best flex dps eu prob

#

But like it’s not as big of a gap as you say it is

#

Esp off tracer

glass sleet
errant hornet
#

Seicoe is arguably a better echo at least

#

Rn

hybrid hollow
#

????

lavish prism
#

not arguably imo

errant hornet
#

Than kev

glass sleet
#

IM JEALOUS every time I see them have coffee

lavish prism
#

not at all arguable

errant hornet
#

Imo

hybrid hollow
#

Ohh

#

No I read it wrong

#

I thought u said Kev echo was better lol

wise orbit
velvet lintel
#

is smurf actually on roadhog

#

🤣

glass sleet
#

Alright see you after map 1 lol

wise orbit
velvet lintel
#

ok mirror mauga

errant hornet
hybrid hollow
#

MAUGA MIRROR NOOOOO

lavish prism
hybrid hollow
#

I THOUGHT WE ESCAPED THIS HELL

errant hornet
#

Like what else are they competing with other than ssg

velvet lintel
#

yea i believe raccoons are winning this first map

wise orbit
hybrid hollow
#

observers need to lock in

#

I need to see how junbin dies there

humble token
#

Oh ahu smurf is back

lavish prism
#

on this comp matchup flcs wins

#

imo

weary scarab
#

falcons 3:2 cr

humble token
static pond
#

doom?

#

DOOM?????

velvet lintel
#

damn they getting destroyed

lavish prism
#

tf is cr doing

humble token
#

Junbin is throwing

#

Gg

lavish prism
#

gg

weary scarab
errant hornet
#

I’d think falcons found their comp lmfao

hybrid hollow
#

They wanna go doom to ignore the mauga but falcons is too stacked to do tht

static pond
#

nag cr throwing

weary scarab
#

mf their team is giga stacked

velvet lintel
#

how that doom punch hit

hybrid hollow
#

Yeah this mauga shit looks crazy

velvet lintel
#

bullshit

humble token
#

PROPER IS HIM BRO

hybrid hollow
weary scarab
hybrid hollow
#

Both teams have either the 1 or 2 best in their respective roles

errant hornet
#

We all know their team is stacked but u can’t pretend like they looked way less organized than cr going into this

hybrid hollow
#

Same with junbin

errant hornet
#

Like I again agree falcons are cracked but cr SHOULD be the favorites

static pond
#

heesang been around

hybrid hollow
#

Yeah this doom comp ain't the move

lavish prism
hybrid hollow
#

heesang and proper were on o2 together with junbin lol

static pond
#

long ass time he even scrim agaist dragons and seoul in there prime

humble token
#

Oh proper stalker are locked in

lavish prism
#

doom into mauga just isnt it

glass sleet
#

Damn that’s a roll

weary scarab
#

junbin is probably gonna mirror mauga or ball next round

humble token
#

Proper😩😩😩

hybrid hollow
#

We're balling folks

wise orbit
errant hornet
#

Eu might be cooked

humble token
#

Yee haw

weary scarab
#

cr should have this

#

round

#

the ball is just crazy

glass sleet
lavish prism
#

smurf is just unkillable here

hybrid hollow
#

Why did he just tickle his beam at Smurf lol

static pond
#

idk

lavish prism
#

and venture makes them undivable ngl

weary scarab
#

damn

wise orbit
humble token
#

BRO SMURF IS BACK

#

HE STILL AINT WASHED

hybrid hollow
#

I think the comp is just better fr

lavish prism
#

smurf isnt doing that much

static pond
#

ya

lavish prism
#

hes just standing there and living

weary scarab
lavish prism
#

literally unkillable

glass sleet
lavish prism
#

how

humble token
hybrid hollow
#

They might just force the dive mirror next map

lavish prism
hybrid hollow
lavish prism
#

with venture?

#

on koth?

static pond
#

weird thing is max can play mauga too

hybrid hollow
humble token
errant hornet
lavish prism
#

mauga meta just favours flc

errant hornet
#

It’s Mauga

#

It’s hard to look that bad on Mauga

velvet lintel
#

damn

errant hornet
#

Unless you are named someone on map 4

lavish prism
#

junbin takes mauga now?

#

huh?

wise orbit
hybrid hollow
#

I think they have to mirror lowkey

wise orbit
#

now i know you're trolling if thats what u mean haha

hybrid hollow
#

You force dive next map and mirror the mauga from there on out

errant hornet
#

Bro I’m split on who to cheer for

glass sleet
errant hornet
#

On one hand I fw Smurf and proper and chiyo as players a lot