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Oh it makes sense now
yeah ssg has the best backline in the west
Ok njc
Good for the mauga idk Abt the pharah
Also good for ssg tho
The njc music gives me sunset overdrive vibes
Damn
That's actually just better team play
M80 wasn't ready for peli to find the opening and SSG reacts
Huge shatter man
Yeah ssg are locked
idk I hope they scrim falcons when it ends before they go back to korea
good blade
genji is probably my favorite hero to watch in pro play
I feel like ssg and Toronto are on the verge of being the teams that can actually elevate a lot rn
Ssg just needs to adapt to these unorthodox comps tbh
And Toronto just needs to tighten up the execution and get Vega on the same page
They just adjusted to the mauga that's all
M80 doesn't know how to react when the trump card doesn't work every time
Whereas the ssg core has been learning how to make the comp work in any situation for years
Looks like m80 is locking in tho
its a tough point for rein
Was the window late?
think so
Not window lamp I mean lol
yeah idk i didnt watch
M80 not done yet
ssg will win last point
Oueee
m80 ❤️
this is a good point for rein they'll win this
yeah i might be wrong
those ults are so strong
holy shit m80 locked in so hard
lets go man cmon m80
I assume we go to Esperanca now
tbf I thought m80 was a lot weaker than they are rn going in
they always looked kinda the definition of carried by talent
mauga is just stupid
ngl I feel like falcons ssg coulda been a lot closer if SSG had a better answer to mauga
not as a cope or anything its ssg
ssg's fault for not being ready for it
but at the same time man
fuck that hero
lmfao
cant believe hes still pro viable
it's like I can't get mad at m80 bc obviously they wanna win
like I actually just get mad watching this bs hero just waltz around
But the mauga pick always feels so cheap
yeah
like im not mad if they play the comp well they deserve to win
other teams have dealt with the mauga comp fine as well
just still f that hero
well let's see if they can do it with the ram
feels like it is enabling some amount of worse coordination and its not as big of a deal because mauga is so linear its generally whatever
he slaps on push maps
yea
the last game
ssg fked up ult economy
got caged and bladed like 3 times in a row
no rein :(
No mauga
Thank you hawk
Go out with some pride
Huge window
Sparkr actually be taking vacations on these flanks it's so funny to see a Cass just on his own in he backline
Sparkr is never cleared man
honestly the best use for cass ult is zoning
We learned this 4 years ago lol
either that or if u can combo it with something
Deadeye and dragon fall into the same boat
i think they said they would change it in the coming rework
Good for zoning and needs a combo for huge value
bro hawk go mauga
Let’s goooo SSG
Damn going home to a full cap on push gotta suck
im glad they won
shouldve played the mauga genj comp
ssg vs toronto or ssg vs ence would both be great
eu rivalry or best of both regions going head to head
Almost had it
ence game next ive been waiting for this
As a European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so free.
That circuit hold is giving me so much hope for Toronto despite them losing it
Can't even get mad this was funny 💀
the people love hadi
#chadi
I mean he truly is the honest ow man
im saving this one
Only non Korean team I wanna see Toronto lose to is ssg
Bc I love their squad
Great guys
SSG WINTON
hadi vs sig otp
sig otp is crazy
ram dva king
Tomorrow is this last day right?
yes
So do we get a giga stream?
we'll get 4 games tomorrow
with my boy appy hosting the co stream
Does losers even get a chance at first? Or is it just take second place at best
ub final, lb semi and final and then grand final
no losers bracket can make it to the grand final
The koreans have bested us again
falcons and raccoons will have to play each other twice if they both make it to the final
ence 3-2
😢😢
Toronto gets all the blessings from the na elims to win this match
They gather all of sogs aura
lol they fixed vestolas pic
dva cosplay omg
big fluxes and pulse bombs incoming
why they glazing vega bruh
No Jake say what you mean
Say Vega needs to step up
This why we need a main support on the desk
last NA standing
They don't get enough hate or props
its joever NA bros
Nah crimzo puts Kai on soj and we win
WHAT IS THIS SONG LMAO
its the csgo song
yup
EZ4ENCE
wow
its ez4ence
i didnt even know they had an overwatch team
can they update this it sounds years old
did ana go asleep
yes
it is old lol
i think
im watching this match and then im watching the mma fights lol. gonna be up to 6 am
"Rupal's Frag Race" is actually a peak fan sign
Vega has that huge ass mousepad for what
emea solos
Bro brought his whole deskpad
ssg got the easy match ence is gonna have to do the heavy lifting
BRO CAN ENCE PLAY WITHOUT TECHNICAL ISSUES
Ence still shaking from the pge aura so they gotta stall to recover
sig otp
Why is my merit dying to kai
kai overhated
ence gotta find an answer to the dive during this series
I watched him do nothing with 5 overclocks
I'm allowed to hate
He has locked in tho especially on cass
Kev not tryna lose this on
i havent seen vestola play any mauga
BOOOOO
interesting choice
MAUGA BOOOOOO
BOOOOOOOOOO
EU being lame as usual
just hearing about kais 0 aura soj ocs
its fine ence do better on the other busan maps
alr they're playing sanctuary this map is cooked
dont flux vestola
why is ghost always dead
he had a good oc before
lenny
Kev is locked in tho
fuck yes
???????? every opportunity to glaze kai
now mekka base
Toronto was winning the fights but ence just had more point pressure
Someone pls no
I don't wanna see this man
NO MORE MAUGA
LENNY!
I still don't get why we had Lenny on soj in the cr match
mauga still cringe tho ewwww
Like matching the widow genji was clearly the move then but it's in the past
ajax cage?
big window
Vega and these low hp beats man
I LOVE YOU KEVSTER
KEVSTER YOU ARE MY SUNSHINE
MY ONLY SUNSHINE
BEST GENJI AND TRACER IN WEST
Is Kev the proper of ence
yup
ez4ence
toronto is cooked smh
its honestly kinda similar
sort of
they both dont have the best coordination ever like the cr or even ssg, but they both just have flex dps player kill 9
then again I think ssg is still one of the better organized teams just that proper is a player and they dont know how to adapt to the mauga well enough
when its not m80
imo
the ball pick for the second point was cool but being forced to run a hitscan there killed them
yeah
vestola definitly holds his own though
id rather merit just tracer and sugarfree echo or pharah or something
idk about our backline and kai
even if merit tracer isnt the best its better than the weird hitscan pick
we gotta go Gibraltar here right
vestola is good on the sigma fs
I think on any other hero tho someone is better
tbh
mb not dva
I feel like toronto needs to force more of their strengths tbh
does someone have a great ram?
id say yeah it usually looks rly good
he inted a little but so did everyone there tbh
You go gib and win accept ur midtown loss then go Esperanca and force dive and pray you win flash point
I believe
mb
Toronto can easily win a dive map
versus ence
Someone is very good at winston and especially doomfist
kevster is the greatest swede to have ever lived
I honestly wouldn't mind them forcing more doom I think its a good look for them
rn
Agreed
gibraltar will be hard
Wait what are the chances ENCE go nubani if they lose
bc they did it against falcons
honestly though even if ence usually dont do well on dive, all of them are playing heroes they r rly good at
Kai tracer?
gibraltar doesnt matter who cares about this goofy ahh map
Damn they just forced the bomb reset too
No
lol
He got demeched and was forced to reset his ult charge
mei on gibby ?
ram time 
Honestly I like this more than the kai tra
thats a gg
why didnt they just play kev on tracer and kai on soj
Dude why is the audio quality so ass
this doesnt matter at all
huge stick from sugarfree
Wait can ence still go to another escort map?
even if they could I doubt they go circuit right
Honestly midtown or circuit isn't a free win for ENCE
someone can play the sig
well ig thats what happens if you put ur tracer player on anything but tracer

it's like ence have maps their strong on but Toronto has maps they actually just win for free bc they can't play dive
We might go to flash point get a little freaky
ok no it's the midtown lol
honestly where would na be without their korea imports
aint nothing mid about this town
Normal na midtown comp
Birds 
kevster is gonna jump over the crosswalk
midtown music a bop fr
Kai soj let's see how we feel Abt it
defiant lock in
i say he gets 2 atleast
they just kinda walk onto point
That's the advantage of the Lucio here
that was fast
im not sure why brig
ban that dumbass tank
Giga hold height
ah
vestola sig will dominate mauga
Brig bap makes it hard for Toronto to get forced off the height and merit is extra safe
Kevster living off swedish dreams
That's the downfall to the brig tho
They can rotate out
Forced to commit
now watch this kai oc
bro Lenny just carried that with the stall
If Toronto finds masaa this fight they win
Huge bob and masaa died
Good push for ence tho
winnable
ur not hadi bro
let him do sumin
Crazy wall
Kev gave merit the super angle lol
Merit took a page from sparkrs book
hwo did they lose that
thats a 3k fine
I JUST HAD A MINI HEART ATTACK
Cass flank and ghost got found so no care for vestola
Get Kai off soj NOW
MER1T is so fucking based
Holy mer1t
the ram ult is free tho
Uh kinda
Ence needs the nastiest rotate
Oh well
sugarfree learning from kev lmao
Mer1t is locked tf in rn
ong
what did Lenny do to u
Once again find masaa you win
Pls
That boop was nice
Merit locked
HES LOCKED
MER1T MY GOAT
mer1t is toronto proper bro
LENNY?
recall for no reason
throws pulse like basket ball
ez4ence
masaa must've heard me calling him old
bro i had my eyes and ears closed in the end
Tbh I thought Vega was gonna someone die or ajax
toronto proper couldnt carry enough
The beat was just bad tho

It's Vega him not ajaxing is good enough
If that beat engage they needed to hard engage that
ghost keeps diffing rupal but gets picked off by the others
yeah dropped beat and just stacked cart
The best might be fine there but they didn’t comit on it enough
i think ghost needs to stay more coordinated
I mean I’d hope ghost diffs rupal ifs his otp lmfao
Rupal is a better player but he’s a bap onetrick on bap
im just saying he needs to stop dying needlessly and its over for toronto
tbh that isn't always ghost fault
Ig?
i agree
They kinda just hard engage on him
ence need to support him more as well
If ur flex support gets picked first in this comp that just means the other team is running you over
Well that’s like any comp lol
Only thing worse than the flex being picked is the tank
Toronto should be better just idk
Feels like they choke in the worst ways randomly
Like that beat needed a harder engage
ssg got off easy with m80 bro T-T
That map was there’s to win
Again Toronto knows what they're doing but they keep losing bc of these small small things and that's honestly bc they had to play in na
M80 didn’t look amazing going in Tbf
The region isn't hard enough to force them to pay attention to these smaller things
Uh idk about that
It’s not just “they play in na” it’s just the way it is
And some of their hero choices I’m not the biggest fan of
Yeah but when ur running over every team for free you don't actually work on things like tempo
Bc every fight is always in ur favor
Idk if tempo is the main issue
Tbh
It’s just small chokes keep happening which is an issue itself
Like better team wins sure but Toronto SHOULD be better than ence
colosseo is winnable
Fs
I feel like they didn't know they had the advantage to push after that beat it's like nobody even tried to make the move off it
It might just be all of it
I think next two maps are prob Toronto favored
Idk Toronto just feels weird
Tbf midtown is rly fucking good for ence
I believe
so esports world cup is looking to be potentially the Olympics of esports
Who knows
did anybody catch that goofy ahh charge
Mauga is so braindead that even someone iq lowers when he plays it
Ghost bro
I get it
Broooo
Fuck this hero
Vega?
Wtf is he doing
where is this mauga going
Lmfao
no this hero actually removes braincells
Ig he thought he was dead either way?
Bro just take the pick and get cart like
thank u for being useful Vega
good job vega
Why do you need to keep fighting there
Get this man off mauga pls
-1k aura for merit
mauga throwing???
This map should be Toronto favored hit they keep over fighting
Ngl
They don’t have a venture they need to play a little slower
nvm ig
Like why are we so committed to lost fights
Idk I don’t like the cass Mauga
I feel like the ventur is so much better here rn
Imo
Merit soj
But someone is also going too deep
korea try not to feed on mauga challenge impossible
No that was a good rush
I couldn't tell if it was in cage
Kills sigma wins the fight
bro Kai has killed Lenny every blade I think
Praying for a good beat here
I mean it is an upset if you look at seeding and the fact that Toronto should just be better
its over
The flexibility team should be beating the sig comp one trick
toronto's done
But they're not them
As a European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so free.
Like legit I don’t get why they throw so hard
this region is like ass fr
Ig
i hate NA
why is ence so underestimated
Like ence isn’t even that insane
LMAO NICE ENCE
💀
HAHAHAH NOT EVEN KOREA IMPORTS CAN SAVE U
Oh well
will NA ever win an esport 

They're not underestimated Toronto deadass just threw
upset my ass
It’s funny because Toronto that map has so many advantages and then just like
eu is just so much better than na
Randomly ints
Not to be mean
But not saying ence is bad
But on paper and going into the game
Like they play the first fight so well then just fucking forgot how to play overwatch
Toronto is 100% better on papa wr
Paper
They just played terrible
Esp that map
Let me in the locker room
cope cope cope
It's not cope he literally just said Toronto threw
As a European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so free.
welcome back midfient
Esp map 4 it was their map to win tbh
They just kept fighting too early
And then overextending
no way i overestimated toronto
Big upset good for ence tho
Honestly it's the hydron curse
no matter who is on defiant
Rly bad for Toronto
they're mid
Terrible showing from Toronto
we been knew this
They should be embarrassed losing to ence with the roster and flexibility they have
what actually happen to him saw him on the roster no ?
literally
Like literally just inted XD
Bro is just a streamer now
I just dont see how this is an upset? 4 out of 5 of the ence players are tried and true veterans
bro ence are a good team
Well half are seen as washed
stop the cope
bro the fact is they won what
How is that cope
Bc they're stuck on one comp and Toronto has been the flexibility team until now
Masaa isn’t good like nobody denies that
Nobody is denying ENCE victory
He’s obv washed
the fact is ence won and its not just because kevster is that guy
but Toronto on paper was just the better team they just threw hard
guys flexibility doesnt matter
Yeah exactly
what fight is happening@rn
jack of all trades means master of none
nobody is saying that bro
i can see toronto losing as an upset but not that major of an upset
vestola sig can not be beaten
It's not a major upset but one none the less
Except by ssg, falcons, and cr
are there matches going on
ssg v ence always a banger
very true
unfortunetly ssg stomps
ssg wins then upset falcons to reach gf
I assume merit works on his flex dps a little bit if they keep the roster
Like ence backline is not very good, Rupal Vega should be better but they kinda threw lol
if we get sent home by anyone i hope its ssg
Being hard stuck on the hitscan is just not good
Vestola is good at sigma.
and dva and ram
Kai has been underperforming but was good this game
His ram is fine
It’s not that insane
how many games does he have to do good on before you guys stop hating on this guy
Kevster is the goat no denying that
I said he’s good at sigma
Nobody is hating he's literally just a sig player
kai is not the greatest but he has been sooo overhated and for what
Obv very good at sigma
im talking about kai
Bc he's been super inconsistent
Oh Kai I don’t hate that much
I think he was underperforming but overhated
although when kai is on fire he is that guy
He’s just diffed by sparkr vur that don’t mean he’s bd
Bad
Given merit was overall better this series but the whole team just made bad calls
man 4 great veterans that have performed well since the start and people are saying this is an upset
I mean
Masaa isn’t the best record, vestola was on the worst owl team
We've been saying this since the start of stage 2
Saying they all have great records is a little silly
Proper is also besties with kevster
Kevster obv does but the others weren’t rly known for being great
how many times do we need to kickass before u guys stop coping
Except Kai during that one Soj meta
It's not cope lol
Toronto lost bc they literally played bad ENCE were just better
I thought na was the worst region but that Toronto would look better
Nobody is tryna cope
Toronto looked terrible
alr guys its been fun but its middle of night here gn everyone
No denying that
But saying all of ence is like tried and true respected veterans with a strong record is untrue
Tbh
Aside from literally kevster
5 am what are you talking about
All of them looked very questionable in the past
03:40
And had mixed records to show
Which is a bigger reason for Toronto to be embarrassed
my sleep schedule is fucked haahhaah
Their players have a much better record and many of them are also veterans to an extent
No reason to look this shit and just int in the most desperate ways
ok but question:
what is a bigger throw-
nyxl season 1 playoffs or glads 2022 playoffs ?
ill toss in atlanta last season as well for biggest throw
dont remind me
Atlanta last season wasn't a throw they literally just couldn't do anything bc they didn't scrim the other comps
It's like you got meta cucked bc you didn't prepare
ok so ill redefine it- what is a bigger choke
nyxl got bodied hard 
man ive stayed up so far i might just pull an all nighter
wait no then ill be too tired for tomorrow
gn
gn
im curious bout EWC
they said that the winner of the dallas major gets a place in the ow2 tourney at the EWC but all the remaining teams already have secured their spot in the cup
so how are they gonna fill that last spot?
idk magic
Idk probably something with circuit points
I was thinking maybe one of the teams who were eliminated that have won the most games (of those eliminated teams)
but ig we'll see
HES REAL
OOP
CR MY GOAT LIP
sad i cant know the result
till next week
I wish the matches didn't end so late bc now I wanna play ow
But the queues are gonna suck at this time
yUhhh
NA “Near Airport” is known as the fastest region to arrive at the Airport. Since they fell out of #OWCSDallas, they are investing in Speedruns. In particular they are current world record holders in Airport Any % and Airport no wins.
Hell
lel
How long does it take for the Twitch items to go to your account after you claim them?
@stray quarry
dannys reaction is hilarious
bro swore “fuck”
JUST WOKE UP
ENCE STOMPED TORONTO
@robust patio u were saying m 80 and toronto is above ence 😑
we will also beat ssg
both teams know each other very well
?
😎
I'm surprised myself
until they met ence
I regard both as good rosters
so tor in losers bracket
I mean ghost is fucking crazy, I think I've played with him in a few finnish pugs
@velvet lintel theyre out lol
Along with ataraxia's entire roster and quite a few others
ur so cool 🤩
ofc
No, I'm just saying that I agree and also have some kind of realistic knowledge of their skill level
eu > na as usuak
Why you bein weird abt it
in every game the rule applies
im joking bro ur good 😊
i like to joke a lot
korea > both tho


Sorry I'm just confused
who will falcons fight next
I mean tbf based on the world cup the playing field seems to be more level than before
@velvet lintel guess
Although we can't really know how hard each team wanted the victory
😎
crazy raccoon
yes
Holy shi toronto got rolled
hm
ence diff @humble token
They could be back
SSG VS ENCE AND LOSER OF RACOON VS. FALCONS WILL PLAY ENCE OR SSG
ence will win it all
I believe
not awake
is that an excuse
jetlag, pause fked them, kai wasnt playing good
Just way better synergy
@velvet lintel ofc it is
lol
everything counts
Excuses people, excuses 
Toronto were so disconected
falcons being there for 2 weeks meanwhile ence arrives 1 day before is ofc and excuse
I'm honestly kinda sad toronto is doing poorly because someone was my favorite player from 2023
@hazy marsh ur coping
But gotta cheer for the team with more local presentation ig
I was making a reference 
upgrades people, upgrades
Humor is hard istg
ur finnish and u say this 🙄
Mmm tbf I haven't had time to actually watch like any of the games cuz I been serving in the military
Ence seems to like running sig rather mauga
But after Dallas majors I can get back into following the scene more actively because I'm completing it soon

💪
I think ence will beat ssg tbh they gotta get referens
im watching toronto game now
bro i like u more and more what happened to u
Nothing
u were #1 ence hater
MERIT TBAGGED MASAA AND GOT DESTROYED AHHAHAAHAHAH
surely they can prepare for all 3 matches against all top teams straight in a row without being tired
no pauses pls
Nice ence actually played their TD game so well
im waiting for a massive ssg clutch
all their workouts must have resulted in some kind of endurance
So far, major has been super entertaining. I really love a lot of heroes are being played.
Vestola top 3 sigs of all time?
Kinda hard to define top sigs for all time
Because release sig was a different beast to what he is now
But yeah I agree Vestola is starting to seem like he's up there in terms of sig players from what I've seen and heard
did choi ever play solo sig
he always had either super or smurf next to him
he's unproven in ow2
ssg vs ence today will be legendary
Ngl thought he was just a dva player lmaoo
Best in ow1
choi was the dva and sig for shock
he did all off-tanks
Tbh after friday it looks like choi was always the carry
Smurf does a little trolling
Smurf dies so that proper can kill 5 with blade
ENCE SOON ITS TIME
ITS TIME TO SHOW KOREANS THE REAL POWER OF EU
kai has to lock the fck on
IT WILL CHANGE TODAY!!!!
tbh i think ence has a chance against falcons if they get a rematch
ENCE gonna get cubrstomped
no more jetlag diff
Didn’t they not win a single point vs them
Hey they are not in the state N.A. is at least
and tbh that draw shouldve been a win for ence
The fact that regions are more restrictive show how much better Koreans are
It’s wild the skill gap
No one can compete with crazy raccoons outside falcons
if anything this shows how trash na really is
eu dominated even if both na teams had 2 korea imports and eu had 0
There is no point in comparing them. They are both peasants vs Korea
we all knew korea is better
No one has taken a bite for a while tho
🤣
Made a good catch
cringe name
But ENCE will get curb stomped
but the fact that the two best NA teams had 2 korea imports and still cant win against EU shows how bad NA players are
They are better than N.A. but that’s like saying they are better than trash
I will tag u after the game 😉
Did you even watch the last falcons vs ENCE
Korea is much better than EU but at least EU can somewhat compete
ENCE didn’t win a single point
NA is so fucking trash its insane
Cope going wild
now i have no excuses
jetlag is true though
It’s cope
i think korea teams have been there for like a week while eu got there like a day before
Falcons will win easily
NOW I WILL SAY KOREANS ARE BETTER IF ENCE LOSSES. I HAVE NO EXCUSES OK?
EU and N.A. always pick circuit thinking Koreans bad on that map
BUT IF ENCE WINS U HAVE TO ADMIT ENCE IS THE GOAT
😢
Y r u getting so upset man lol
although i dont think theres anything that can be done to win against raccoons
but ssg and ence do have a slim chance against falcons
Falcons are only team who can even compete
and falcons have a chance against raccoons
but ssg/ence upset against falcons is possible i think
Being optimistic I would say ENCE at best can win 1 point
I be very suprised if they won more than 1
are u from eu
Ana dude why are you upset these are esports teams
It’s ok if we disagree
isnt a part of being a fan is to be upset or be happy after ur team wins or losses?
Yeah but arguing with someone over discord about it is pointless
were not arguing were talking
bro im having a conversation and yall are just yappin rn like crazy
Pick a side this aint the nba i promise you glazing a side aint argument worthy
and why say things like why are u upset about esports teams on a esports chat 😑
You haven’t said a single thing tho
you assume im talking in this server
🙄
What do you want man I didn’t ask 😭
it looks grim against koreans but honestly i care about the ssg/ence match more than the final
+++ but ence will win vs. korea too @wise orbit
I loved NA when Danteh played regardless of how good or bad they were. But he retired which makes me sad
yes
heja ence!!!!
Danteh and space both super fun ppl to watch
s*xtola
space mentioned sheesh
washed but funny
vestola's real name is Illari 😎 @wise orbit
haha i saw that
I love space
He still streams which is nice
All my N.A. favs retired
i like space's music taste not his gameplay 🤣
I don’t think you actually read anything I said lol
Did you read?
Your all trash no offense
I tried
You’re
I just solved all problems
.
ur garbage 😱
congratulations
😂
Agreed
Discord chat here really has ppl that can’t read
😂😂@crystal timber
I’m concerned for the education system I’m Ngl
me too
@wise orbit they think ssg is good 😭
ssg 3:1