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EU top region in cs easily
but its fairly popular in na too
more so before than now
Its 5min
lel
So 15-35min of gameplay per series + breaks
15m is basically one match in ow
Yeah its fast paced
but playoffs are bo7
So those series can take a hour
Not that many people watch ow esports

actually rocket league esports has more viewers than ow
💀
wow
What actually happend to ow esports
It dropped significantly in just months or so
Nobody cares abt collegiate and owcs as much as they did for owl
^^^^
Owl was more memorable
Collegiate is funny bc some teams are just so much better than others
why tf is maryville always so good
I mean it's one of the only schools with an almost complete t1 roster
Owl is probably a better term than t1
Other than Winthrop
Well rocket league is a bad comparison because it's literally soccer, anyone can casually watch that. Ow is harder to just like watch as a normie
ESPN posted squishy muffins semi finals off the ceiling upside down freestyle goal in like 2018
When method beat gale force and cloud 9
To win it all
The era when kuxir was the goat
Good times
well hes the esports prince of saudi arabia of course he is gonna be there on a world cup esports event
still, dont u think 1m prize pool is small for ow
while mobile legend is 3m

🥴
Which prize pool
but why would he host a 1 million prize pool if he wont get 1 million back in revenue. You think the saudi guys invests because they are kind. no they do it to make revenue and create influence in the esports markets
they invest in a bunch of shit so they can shift away from oil
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IMAGINE A TEAM
WITH GUXUE X ANS
🤯
Guxue speaking Korean and Ans replying with English 🤣
Later in the video, Jinmu got sad ans f removed him on accident but added back
IMAGINE ROSTER
Guxue
Jinmu
Ans
irony
Bliss
looks like a solid middle tier team which will never achieve anything worthwile 🔥 🔥 💯
Mid
Overwatch is already losing money for them lol
There is no point in investing in overwatch
Blizzard cant make a comeback if they dont bring back 6v6
i mean there are great examples of countries moving away from oil, one good example is united arab emirates who is not dependant on oil as a primary part of their gdp
saudi is trying to do the same thing
hm
Lowkey I thought I was the only one thinking that
I think they going for nu learn energy
Nuclear
Yeah isu has a full non American roster
I’m cheering for them. Admiral ex twisted minds player lol
idk a single player on the other team sadly
Wait I think I've heard of their flex support before
Idk if it was in a tournament tho
Idk them
At all
Idk seeing who ISU has makes me think they’ll win the whole thing lol
No idea how many matches get streamed but I hope we see Winthrop vs Maryville today
Maryville?
Didn’t see them on the schedule today
Yeah LG
Damn 💔
After looking at the rosters I assume ISU runs thru the lower bracket with ease
Dude, do these players get paid or go to school for free?
How did ISU even drop?
They lost to Maryville
WOW
how
They lost to danteh, k1ng, joobi, and squid??
I mean depending on who you ask they're the better team but I didn't watch the match so
it was 3-1 so
I’m cheering for ISU
lool
Oh yeah
How do you get to play in collegiate?
backline is weak
bliss is good
irony isnt
Go to a college with an overwatch team that's really it
jinmu kinda washed
Then it's just ur normal swiss stage, group stage, playoffs
What are the requirements? Gotta be t500? Lol
Depends on the school I guess
Is there an age requirement?
The lower rated teams are just a bunch of ladder players
No you just have to attend that college
Tr33 plays for Winthrop and he's not even 17 yet
How the fuk…
Dude plays for a uni and he’s not even 18?
Or studying uni?
I guess he graduated early to play overwatch
He's been playing contenders since he was 14 too
Hadi would've killed 5 with tht primal
Gotta start somewhere if you aren't top 100
ow esports is ded
I thought he was just a t500 troll
size and funding matters more than anything
schools with no esports funding don’t do shit
No coaching really is impossible in this kinda scene
you can’t compete
bro cancelled mothers day for overwatch 💀
Collegiate thrower by day, super thrower by night
Hence why all the good collegiate teams are just owl players who got hoed out of their job
all the good schools just went an threw resources at em and everyone else was left to pick up the ladder players and a few contenders players
That team that they were playing was unbelievably shit ngl
Lmao rush
Rip
Team china announce
Bilibili
Aret they spark
IM ALIVE
FINALLY A TEAM I CAN ROOT FOR
The logo is weibo
Yeah, that's why I was getting the feeling it looks like a mobile game
RAHHH
Have a feeling leave migth be washed
...
fat hamter with winton face ur favorite @humble token
Wow
That’s an org?
Looks like spark is back
I hope they can play more than dive now tho
Guxue orisa
side eyeeee
China lacks tank players
i guess theyre comfortable in their comps
maybe we'll see some more china representation with this org tho
bru yall say this every season
maybe he is reformed? I really don't think that spark roster would allow him to be the head coach unless he is reformed.
reformed
Really…? You want him to play current orisa?
https://x.com/CDHuntersFacts/status/1789898349807641063 if this team doesn't break even at all the team owner is going to be broke
she's actually committing 100% into this one chinese roster
and I'm here for it
“reformed”
uploaded the vid finally in #esports-news
it's not bad
but who the hell is SUP, a coach for Hangzhou for their first 5 seasons

she'll get a sponsor eventually
massive respect to her

No but blizzard loves to re buff orisa and I think its the only tank outside dive he can play
as cool as it is
this is a horrible idea
betting all your money on guxue solo tank
guxue is one of the best tanks out there
i would say it's an excellent invest
their backline's hero pool is limited (pretty much ana & brig only...) so it would not matter whether he was the only tank or not
- guxue can play orisa (tbh anyone can play it)
Twisted Fans on twitter thinking Kellan is the best tank

bro got diffed by almost every single tank in owcs korea
well the assisstant coach of london s said that he is top 3 winston
sure there are alot of better winstons, but are they playing right now? no
he is def the best tank in eu me
in eu for sure
but he aint top 10 tank in the world
Hadi diffs him hard
Hadi top 5
Yes
nah
Someone
Smurf
Bernar
Junbin
Hadi
Hadi top 1 winston eu top 1 rein good ram decent orisa good ball
Than who
im lazy to make a list
but i agree with someone on top1
bernar on 2nd
junbin 3rd
smurf 4th
guxue 5th
hanbin 6th
donghak 7th
vestola 8th
mag 9th
Guxue donghak are 2 tricks
He is best monkey in EU but idk about best tank
Mag is washed
ves and hadi are better than kellan on brawl tanks
well true but not really
Hadi better winston
nah its just he had bad support line
mag diffs hadi
easily
Both get smoked by top korean teams on winston so whatever
He had vigiliante and I forgor other
leejaegon
Best tank eu
He goat
5th in korea seed runaway
If poke ves
Mag couldve gotten 4th seed tbh
in korea
he aint washed
like look at how insane
top 4th seed was
poker face and runaway couldve got it
and u telling me Mag washed
nahhh
its just common korea seed diff
Ves is better dva, sig, orisa, zarya
i would lean ves on ram too
But hadi is a way better winston and rein ofc
1.Someone
2.Bernar
3.junbin
4. smurf
5.guxue
6.max
7. donghak
8. vestola
9. mag
10. hanbin
- hadi or Peppi
Nah max is mid
Sig one trick
fair
is that best winstons?
cause if that is you are a fruad
a idiot
let me remive max
and a smoker
no
Someone top 3 winston
no hanbin
but he aint top 1 winston
Hanbin is washed
oh yea its goat
Fearless
ofc
donghak>fearless> someone
dive meta
at that time
I would put fearless above donghak cuz Atlanta had insane synergy
Someone is atleast top 3 in every tank exepet ball maybe
I no longer care or argue about delusional fans garbage team
I'm tired of their terrible excuses of why they're "good"
they can go and talk about it all they want I no longer care 🤣🤣
nor should you imo it would save you a lot of time
Tm will make comeback for dreamhack stockholm🔥🔥🔥🧠
🤡
good for them i dont care lol
Ok lol
hadi is not a better winston then kellan
top 10 winston right now definetely not top 10 tanks
theres a reason for why hadi dosent play winston in scrims against the big teams
Bro has no balls to put him in top 10
TM comeback is real
id be curious to see how they do against ssg
i just dont know if we will even see this match
not requiring teams to either stream their games or post replay code is wild
Commanderx carries
yea hopefully he'll be on 🙏🏻
Because im top 10
Big ego detected
Nuh uh
Oooh that looks exciting!
Guxue my goat
earliest we'll see them is eswc im pretty sure?
Commander x is gonna be on that asap
Bro is carrying esports content rn
inshallah
its listed in his stream schedule
yea but not top 10 tank
winton aint the only tank in game
yea then Peppi
look at Genesis Kellan tank at 8th
he aint better than mag or peppi
guys i witawwy hit a clip in overwatch as lifeweaver while in overwatch playing as lifeweaver overwatch lifeweaver from overwatch
erm what the sigma
wrong channel
Mag and peppi sucks😭
But kellan is even worse
exactly
kellan aint better than mag and peppi
I mean that's expected lmao
we will see how they do against SSG tonight
I'm curious
Atraxia crushed ence
yea ence is going thru a rough period it's sad to see

they got the paris eternal,SPG coach 🤣
new guy in twisted minds
bad game ence will just win
twisted minds vs ssg is today too
and toronto vs m80 tomorrow
Who is that
NAH LOL BETTER WITH NO COACH😭😭
If they did not have kai and maybe someone like exodyal they roll eu ez
I dont see the tm comeback happening with that coach
idk ence is in an awful shape recently
I think it might not be a stomp
ataraxias team is actually stacked its not that crazy that they lost against the ex oblivione roster. Supershy is a bottom team
I mean true if ence loses even a map that would be a huge upset
but I'm saying it's not impossible with how poorly they've been playing recently
but yea the real banger is tm vs ssg
When is that match
idk like 6-7 UK time
man i think the match got rescheduled
Oh in like 2 hours?
It said in about 2 hours in liquidpedia
it says the twisted m vs spacestation match got rescheduled to may 22 on pressq
@weary scarab go study bro 💀
What
nah i dont have school today and tomorrow
yup
🤩🤩
😠
Liqupedia says in 2 hours thiugth
maybe it is today or maybe it hasnt updated

the one time I knew this post was coming but I'm asleep during the #esports-news
wtf is pressq
I would think it got rescheduled since it's a patch day
It got rescheduled because of todays patch
but atleast atx vs quick esports still on
why did only some games get resch lol
During this stage teams are free to reschedule games pretty much on their own if both teams agree
this change isnt from higher ups
i dont think
so those who want to wait out the patch reschedule and those who dont mind play now
praying patch doesn’t just reinforce ram meta
yall can find all the faceit replay codes on their website if yall didnt know
bro old defiant roster is playing marvel rivals with the person im not allowed to tell his name and theyre all tank 1 to 6 loool 😳
who
that game looks like it has no staying power
@robust patio frank sinatra
@wicked elk cloudys team is in top 15 global and top 1 to 6 is old defiant roster + frank sinatra
dam
loool
ow players farming that game hard
its literally ow1
but 3rd person view 🙄
cloudys team is old srpeakcheck roster LOOL
so epic
isnt this what ow needed in order to be more popular?
Popularly ≠ competitive integrity
one of the reasons why ow never became as big as league of legends is its difficulty
If the game had a really low skill floor like marvel rivals it wouldn’t be competitive
it was just too fkn hard to play
ye but imagine good players playing this game
they stagger, bait, ult track and stuff on marvel rivals
kinda like the same chess game ppl do on ow
(i meant like trying to counter opponents move by making a move themselves and enemy doing the same)
i think within the month when the hype dies down, that game will be irrelevant
It’s just shiny and new rn
i know
This is gonna be the finals all over again
but we will see
the finals was garbage imo
3 players was bad
5v5 6v6 is what we need
Na I think it will be Winston dive
People don't understand that overwatch since release was a competitive game
I mean look at the effort they put into apex
Games like paladins and rivals won't realistically compete in the same space without commiting to being competitive games
I agree I think the game can be big
But it'll never be like "the overwatch killer"
Bc the games are giving you two different things they just both happen to be hero shooters
i've read that this game will be what ow and paladins couldnt
it is tho lol
its literally a copy of of
payload push and stuff
crazy how its not copyright
Bc games have done it prior to overwatch
the chinese special lol
I think at least
Marvel rivals just needs something to show that it isn't overwatch with super heros
if anything the game attracts more of fortnite’s audience than overwatches
Bc rn it just feels like a super casual overwatch with perma crossover skins
i mean i might be wrong and you can be right however only time will tell whos right and whos wrong
true
I hope the game succeeds tho I don't like seeing games with potential die bc I feel bad for the devs
the revive effect looks like fortnite's XD
am i wrong lool
i guarantee the ow devs are not feeling pressured by rivals
completely different audience
That's what I was saying
Like despite the similarities the games feel so different when you actually play them
Despite how much I hate this game everytime I play something similar I remember why I can't quit overwatch
Rivals also feels more like a solo q typa game
it seems like it was added just to have it
Maybe it's too early to tell but hero and comp synergy doesn't feel as important
Rivals migth steal the casual gamers
No I mean like the quick play players
😏
UNLESS ppl really like it
r patch notes out
Are u fr
ye
not believing you
@rugged quest bro cloudy said it believe in him
Cloudy💀
I think dva gonna be mid this patch
vrummmm
link?
@rugged quest sigma?
WRECKING BALL🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️
🤣🤣
looks like a quality of life change
900 hp reinnnn
oui but its down
Junk one shot back?
Or is it 245😭
2 sec off shout is huge
but queen doesnt have armor so she kinda loses in that compared to other tanks
with the armor changes
Ngl this patch kinda good exepet echo buff
Tanks are getting hard buffed
Cr winning
100%
bro this pach is goated
Chazm ball clears
loool shieldbash reset
Bro chiyo is fraud
eh
Hanbin is washed on sig
@robust patio doesnt matter bap will be the meta support
just cus he played bad in Finals doesnt mean he fraud
Sig meta
he was never really good at sig
yea
CR wins
True lol
you mean ence
Aww yeah ball
Sig is so broken
ghost91 bap >>>
His ult who thought that
Sirmajed bap>>>>>>>>>
lip and heesang (doesnt get affected by patch)
@robust patio 😶😆😆
No illari buffs is stupid
lel
Sirmajed bap is better than fielder
he can just play other dps
Echo
Or genji
Sym
Genji or sym he would play
Falcons do get the stalker genji
But they got no good sig
Honestly just buff rein
I have not seen hitscan from heesang
hmmm yes but not s tier lvl
🤡
Choi is worse than kai
Heesang widow lip soj poke
if u listen to cr comms
its hilarious
heesang and lip deciding on whos playing tracer
and main or flex
nah he plays all
Choi is so bad ppl act like he is proper or something lol
He had decay as dps duo could not beat spg lol
he is surely not proper lvl
Only problem in their team was teru
but he has quite a hero wide pool
@robust patio @humble token this patch is ences patch
for A tier lvl
and Cr
sigma god vestolaaaaa
Would have been tm if ksaa still existed
Watch kai 0 widow kills
Oh wait
kai during atlantareign was prime
Kevster on widow
hes washed now
do we know why he quit
study
Ye but he is hydron rn
idk
it hs been 1week+
Studies
no leaks???
idk y he would study
Not sure
did he feel like he wouldnt succeed
Ksaa was looking like one of the best tanks in the world
quitvaftervtourney
And quit
idk
Kellan with quartz😭
it doesn’t make sense hed quit just to “study”
Bro could have gotten extra cash
They could easily be top 3
Doom💀😭
ikr and urgoing to us to play
imagine he comes back
like wtf
Slay said he would be gone for a while
I feel like rein could be decent this patch
starting NOWWW
Ye
hed come during majors right
He was quite good on kiri
Ye
But the things when I look at liqudpedia it says lbbd7 left tm
Are they gonna put slay on tank now😭
lol
but chorong is having a break
tm going korean
I think lbbd7 quit
with the least worst coach from contenders
Saudi investment failed lol
have you SEEN these local saudi teams play?
They would be better of no coach
nope 
kinda supports the argument that saudi has the funds, but not enough talent growing
Lbbd7 was a joke anyway only had a mid echo

Like japan
basically japan moment
huge org but no talent players
Only quartz is like top tier saudi player rn
japan has so much money saved by not getting an esports industry in the past 10 years
Koreans tend to be op duh
whats their rosters rn
stick to what ur good at u had the same roster for 1+ years
Quartz youbi vigilante kellan crispy💀
@robust patio korean sup korean coach korean tank
Vigilante is good
soon all korean
But kellan nah
I think he is mid idk
he is ok brig
lol
more like best brig eu
His lucio tho
They have to hope winston will be meta
why is this game close lmao
coach wont work well with rest eu players and will swap to full korean
ok kai toggled wtf
he plays winton he loses tank fight
but im sure Leave genji will carry
demon skills
not many chinese great tanks
based on what
and some are washed
im gonna be honest once again's backline has a much better synergy than cr's
thoughts?
as long as backline is alive cr losses
they are ana brig otps
ofc
depends on if thats meta
they been together since owl
owwc
and now owcs
but im sure Cr has great synergy
damn i slept on supershy
yes my point is: once agains backline will long longer than cr's and thry will lose the fight
brig got buffed
as long as the backline is alive its not lost
@weary scarab started now
ence woke up
what does "long longer" mean
stay alive longer
longer
yeye
oh ok
but yeah if brig ana is strong that backline is great
but shu chorong more flexible
Jq
if mmonk lengsa live longer than shu chorong then once again will be victorious
its all about backline
cuz both teams has very good dps tank
they wont int
Could jq be meta
(hope leave doesnt int)
If so falcons has a chance
++++
@rugged quest but if force dive once again is better
nah
jq aint beating sig
its not huge buff
I think on brawl maps could see jq
jq is fundementaly weak
2 is nice but jq doesnt benefit from armor changes at all
exactly
so she loses alot in tank trades
maybe we can see jq sym in flashpoint
but idk
ball is still better
why is eichenweld always picked now
bros fast
imma sleep
nah i saw this like a week ago
gn yall
just took screenshot
@weary scarab cuz of rush heroes being goof
gn
but yeah rein, winston and zarya pretty much ignore armor now
and they dont lose anything with the tank crit nerf
cuz they dont crit
sigma too
ohh this fit must be for somebody here
looks goofy
i literally implied this isn't for me
someone will appreciate it though
the legs are throwback to the OWL trophy

im a bit worried about the fact that dallas pricepool relies on that skin lol
not looking good in that sense
@weak frost goat91 zero fear
of course faceit gotta put the ssg vs twisted match on patch day
is tm winning?
if hadi goes winston yes
💀💀
they didnt want to play on patch day
when does that beta shit end
Its a new thing so its pretty fun but i dont the game will last
looks clunky
alpha @weary scarab
i wanna get a key but dont know when the trial ends
i love watching old srpc together
game is good
old ow1
with paladins graphics tho
Im not saying its bad
but ow is jsut a more polished version
with better kit design
imo
i will check it out when it comes to open beta tho
i have read online that this game will do what ow and paladins couldnt do
ultimate game
what is that supposed to mean lol
ow won game of the year
can someone explain to me what happened to owl
@rugged quest like being good? xd
well...
idk man some guy just cooked too much chickens
Too expensive to run and didnt bring revenue so it got cancelled
so my toronto defiant are gone 😔
actually toronto is the only org that stayed
from owl
yeah lol
hahaha
No they exist in na
old toronto roster + frank sinatra is playing marvel rivals and thryre top 1 to 6 global
ik u can still get owl skins
ahhhh
compared to owl
ill miss owl
@somber ore watch em
bet
I dont think the game looked nearly as dynamic as overwatch
its better
i think its closer to paladins than ow
i disagree sorry
these servers for ow are horrid
i dont like 3rd person view
but rest is good
@rugged quest its alpha
chill
its not fully out yet
Ikik
smoking on all the gone org packs
my take is that it will be a solid game but wont really compete with ow
did you watch owl last year?
kinda
i think it will surpass ow
toronto picked up someone, merit and rupal from florida mayhem
aka the championship team
yea
you knew?
But yeah theyre the best team in NA
international lan will be in 15 days
might wanna check it out
rein regenerates 40 hp per sec with shield up dont need supports anymore
thats alot
how much is payload healing?
cloudy testing kt
whats that
payload is the thing you move in escort you know
i was just thinking of things to compare it to
😑
???
lol
tanks opppp
rein monkey meta?!
😈
do you know when the beta comes out? Like for everyone
Did ence win
I wonder how long it'll take for Symettra to become more of a standard pick
her teleporter is such an insane ability but its skill floor at top level is so high that only Backbone has shown even a flash of its potential
she's also just so well-rounded
she's good at protecting flanks, good up close, has a decent range tool, and a versatile but high skill floor ultimate
this is just straight up wrong
sparkle showed top tier sym play before
sym has always been meta with rein comps afaik
I competely forgot Sparkle played her lmao
also I'm talking GENERALLY
Rein NEEDS Symmetra, typically
but I'm saying in almost every composition
tp does so much the only comp I could see not benefitting from her is hard dive and even then I could probably come up with ways for her to be useful to Winston and for SURE D.Va
Boston used her on Orisa, right?
its out?
bror old defiant roster spelar spelet och folk spelar med lag
6 stack
crazy stuff
nah i mean like when the beta fully comes out ik this one ends on may 20th
not when everyone can play it
like this one only people with keys can play it
tons of comp use her, she just wasn't used that much in the past because her kit sucked, after she got her tp im pretty sure teams instantly started using the spawn tp strat and later they implemented it into rush comps to help with highground contesting
sym went from troll pick to being used quite a lot
u had to submit some google docs document of why you want to test the game like a month ago
💀💀
Are u swedish?
the spawn strat like. barely counts bruh it's not part of the comp
I'm saying that she's gonna be used in more comps than rush in like. a year mark my words
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U pulled out a bunch of swedish words
yes!