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Now
😂
he full held peace and love on rein
I like the winston more
PEACE AND LOVR 🤣🤣
peace and love is very good bro
thryre a mid team
whos even in pal
r80 esports
Bro does not have the balls for rein
fr
ataraxia is a stacked team its only the tank
nice dive
korean primal
bro sauna is insane
kick raajaro
sauna back hurting
i know
Sauna was diffing youbi hard
i feel like watching heesang bs stalker diff
youbi is a joke vs. good tracers
also is it first to 2?
he diffed the tracer one trick
alr
Nah he is actually decent
huh
says first to 3
vs. comp players
on the top
comp
Bro held his own against kevster
are we watching the same stream?

Whos tm up against
best of 3 means first to 2 @weary scarab
@weary scarab ur making a man crazy
yeah but it says first to 3 on my screen
huh
They wont even have kellan or vigilante
kellan aint beating someone
is commander the owner of faceit?
who is he to give players mvp?
no lol
No just guest i think
faceit is an american org
he is a streamer just opinion
Its his opinion
ah
Whats next match
Oh
next is april 9th

i mean
wait its may not shit

twisted is playing diempero on may 9th and twisted is playing spacestation may 14th
its 2 game a week
per team
llool
Guys skai joined ence?
joining ow?
Its insane how he has been benched for like 2 years straight lol
excluding world cup
ofc i know fnatic
they famous in league
Rumors say they are picking up a korean team
so probably yeti or ftg
omg
imagine
tho imagine if they take sog instead of yeti
since sog doesnt have org yet
neither does yeti or ftg
and korean teams atleast have a chance in international events
- korean teams are very cheap cuz there is no competition for investment. You get better team for same price
nah
what was ur main lool
MUCH better
Yep
only problem with picking up a korean team is that the owcs format cucks them
but they will still get solid return for investment in ewc
I meant that only 2 korean teams qualify
ah
So they cant get price money from internationals
too good
since yeti and ftg dont play there
Yes i said
ya
tho 3rd place mac
max
they aint beating cr falc
thry prob do solid against toronto
If its million+ pricepool thats still pretty solid
yea its crowd funded
just like owwc 2023
Owcs internationals are crowdfunded
cringe ass hanzo skin
The saudi ewc is funded by saudi government + sponsors
💀💀💀💀
is ewc prize pool 1m?
holy
pretty big corps
mastercard????
hilton adidas sheesh
T1
spotify, pepsi, adidas, razer etc
Its a multibillion corp still
i bet the saudi sponsors ar bigger than all of them combined
i doubt it
1 saudi sponsor is prob bigger than all
you see a name
you search it
it says 50 billion
🤣🤣🤣
if its from a royal family then yea
too much oil money
💀💀💀
🤣🤣
takes 0 skill
Saudi royal family has like 1 trillion net worth
💀💀💀💀
yeah 1.4trillion i checked
pubg 3m, korean team winning it
thats pubg mobile
nvm
pc pubg is 2mil
💀
idk why mobile pubg is so high lol
oh still big
koreas good at ow league and pubg
its easier more ppl have access to it
they won pubg dominantly last year
anyone know what game that is
5mil prize pool
Yeah ik it has high playerbase but the esports dont pull that many viewers to be 3x more than cs2
tf
doesnt matter tbh more players = more competition
well tbh if it was down to just viewers ow wouldnt be this high either
yes
its dota2
oh no
its dead in korea for sure
Dota esports still huuuuge
ppl are crazy for dota
i never understood why
It has like 700k concurrent players in steam i think
😆
thought this was roadhog
Dota pricepools are so insane
for a sec
like 30mill for a single tournament 1 year
fair
considering ow reviews on steam
is hilarious
disrespectt
played but didnt like em both i think the reason ppl play it is cuz the nostalgia
@rugged quest sorry for being honest
yr but like
ehhh
you need to start playing it like 15 years ago in order to fully understand, enjoy or be good at it
graphics are killin meee
💀
True
Well wow was made for 2004 shitbox pc's
so ofc it looks like shit
dota graphics not even bad at all
i mean suuuure
At that point you would be making a new game
even minesweeper got better graphics
wow's game engine was built with 2 sticks and 4 rocks
THANK YOU@robust patio
pacman graphics game
True but i dont judge a 2004 game with modern standards
I still respect it even tho it looks like shit
lets say it like this: its a good game for its TIME however its garbage for modern time
graphically garbage yeah
Nevr played it
Yeah most dlcs like that are nostalgia cash grabs
+++
lol
can gta 6 come out alreadyyy
u played all gta games right
not the first ones
yes those ive played
lol
bet is to get more shitty tshirts https://twitter.com/FNATIC/status/1787891646060757089
smh
instead this
no waayyyy
that was the old rosters
Ik
Half of those players are nowhere in the scene now and custa is old
aall of em are washed
I added my goat
That is not him
💀
bro thinks ow2 top500 on eu region is a flex 
yup
show me his profile 
Its private
thats not him 
Yes it is
its not 🤣
Top 10 kid
Ye it is
kid that still aint no flex 
innocent until proven guilty
u r eu after all
Na>
We have kraandop
No
Dude who started this bs lol
U
You have hydron
We have ml7
Cuz therr arent any
Metro is like 40 points alone tbf
Metro is an outlier
We know
Kraan can't carry the EU streamers unfortunately
kraan and bogur are the only eu streamers who aren't like ex owl players that I watch
tbh na is just the natural streamer region look at hydron, bro got clowned almost his whole pro career but now he's funny streamer guy
I just went on Twitter and saw ppl saying the kpop event was an era and was overwatch’s peak😭
only ow era was OWL and when khaled was dancing
nothings beating that
DJ KHALEDDDD
Rumor is that roc picked up ftg
:O
@robust patio yo? 
tbh he isnt washed
he could prob join
Ans le goat
🤩
fnatic taking yeti is (possible) on liqupedia rumors
So many saudi orgs
Tm falcons and now ftg becoming roc
Eu is cooler than asia
No offense but why did you buy the discord customizations🗿
cus im rich

saudi loves korean players too much 
cooler sure, better nah
cuz he can 😎
🤝
So many “3”
Are you Saudi?
korean 
when sog win again ssg I’m pouring honey all over pge
sog beats ssg?
wat r u oN

I think you mean “if”
y’all not real ball knowers
like the rumours of ROC getting FTG plus Izayaki and Checkmate
saudi orgs loving koreans more than saudi players

Till they scam topdragon 🙏
💀
ssg is scrimming against toronto right now. 3:1 to ssg
go watch it on commanderx
3:2
Topdragon was mid anyway
Commanderx seems only way to see scrims
Ssg crushing koreans
@weary scarab how many matches they playing
dont know, but i think m80 is scrimming one of them after the series
Oh
Bro
Its just someone that is fraging
Ssg is just better team play
Idk why but I find it funny kellan’s stream title is “I’m in Egypt and not going to Dallas” lol
Yeah an org is an org. I don’t think nationality should play a role for the most part. I mean just like how CR is Japanese and they went full Korean roster. Don’t blame them tho obviously
I’m assuming izayaky is better flex support than finn right?
I hope roc picks FTG up, I like some of those players
hm
Kellan in Egypt to play in EMEA?
Day 2 of me asking whose being signed to FNATIC 
me : )
I'd guess yeti
unless they buy out a smaller emea org
ftgggg
prob yeti
rumours
? means likely but not sure
Hecking rumors
I may as well get to work on the post early if this is highly suspect instead of the other teams
FTG comes to mind but also not really
theres other rumors
where Saudi org(prob roc) taking ftg
is it famous
only chinese orgs i know is top esports, jdg, bilibili gaming
and invictus gaming
funplusphoenix too lol
dk
yur
the thing is
its a rumour
so we dont know if its true or not
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Guys in 2 hours, Twisted minds is playing deimpero, spacestation playing, r8 esports and ence is playing ataraxia
Thx
Does commanderx stream it
yeah
But they all at the same time so dont know which he will be streaming
coach ocie will watch the tm match and commanderx will watch ataraxia vs ence
Bruh
I am suprised there is no mauga meta
@weary scarab
didnt mauga get hard nerfed or some shit
Nah
i saw toronto defiant play mauga, venture in a scrim yesterday tho
coach_ocie
he is the coach for the team who twisted minds is playing against
Oh
2min delay bruh
commanderx said he vill like watch the game back after the ence vs ataraxia game is done tho
they are banning maps rn
Tm is rolling
Btw 1:0 to ataraxia vs ence lol
ence is struggling vs ataraxia
quartz mei carry 🔢
the korean monkey with the 3k 🕺
wait what
yeah lol and ataraxia capped with a min on hollywood right now
That makes tm look impressive
ataraxia is stacked tbh, old ex oblivione
Ye just tank is mid
Honestly it is so dumb kellan and vigilante cant play in dallas
yeah they would of been a completely different team
Bro illari is working lol
like they have barely scrimmed with the new roaster and beat, r80 esports, ex obvlione and deimpero
Atraxia is rolling ence now
ence gotta cap with a min for even having a chance of attacking i think lol
They lost lol
Kai throwing
Sauna is craked
Tm 2-0 deimpero
As you can see illari is good
nah its just because its galaa
And if falcons used sirmajed more they could have won
Ataraxia on top 💪🏻
Error who is that?

Chiyo has such a big ego he thinks he is better than majed
A match
regardless of all that ego and skill
their comms would be slower
some dont even know english
Majed should have learned korean by now
💀
Really? There are players on falcons that don’t speak enough English to understand game strats?
Smh it’s been months and he doesn’t know Korean
I’m saying that team doesn’t exist anymore.
not game strats
Oh yeah theey have diffrent name
it would be hard to initiate dive
Yes
Just play poje
tracer purple
LU LU LU LU 1 2 3 dive
I sure hope so
@weary scarab when is na faceit
so having chiyo is better
just look here
says 2 am my time
So does that mean TM is better than ence cuz tm 2-0 ataraxia that 2-0 ence? 
Yes
sadly no kellan in dallas
lbbd7 on tank in dallas
TM needs to work on their group play ngl
@vale cobalt tm is already better than ence lol
yup
what happened to kellan
Ye
there only chance
Yes where have you been?
of winning
kellan and vigilante cant play until stage 3
so many stages
Bs rules honestly
tbh even with kellan vi9 they dont have a chance of winning
It’s put there so Koreans that lose early don’t get to have another chance by switching to NA or EU
thats what they said about the wc
everyone has a chance
kellan aint winning falcon cr toronto
They would have made it far atleast
Toronto is not that good
and m80
toronto? they guys who got 1:4 against spacestation yesterday?
They lose to ssg
That’s what they said about every TM win lol. It’s been over two years of TM dominating EU and people still refuse to believe they could win
no way 💀
Eu is just better than na
what are these faceit games
Ence lost to atraxia
Don’t take scrims seriously
And tm beat atraxia
faceit is very important
lol
To be fair toronto is a team that likes to throw for fun
if ence dosent play good in faceit it might be wraps for them
Scrims is where people try different strats and don’t take it seriously so you really shouldn’t think a team is better cuz they won in scrims
It kinda does
no lol
Most of the tiem
They were playing doom lol
someone is cracked on doom
Yeah someone loves his doom
watch toronto beat space in major
Idk if its serious strat
daf almost winning vs. violets team and violets team rolling the team daf loses doesnt make them better LOL
I dont watch a lot of na
makes 0 sense + faceit is whatever
it is esperance doom goes cray cray
cloudy fkn trolled onfaceit played ball and stuff
Lol “violet’s team” I didn’t know that was a team name 
Nah
lol
thry were sigma dva player
The tank player?
bro picked hog
the difference is that twisted minds have beaten ence before 🤔
…unfortunate memory
😂😂😂
Thats cuz they missed 2 players
vs lbbd7 and skye on lucio lmao. the real last time they beat ence 4:1
Tm 4-1 ence still
ITS CALLED FTG😡😡😡🤬🤬
@humble token 3-0
…3 letters. It’s literally just 3 letters dude…
😭
3-0 when they were missing 2 players
still hyped by this
Ans gonna play for F?
What is that
fnatic takes yeti
ans joins yeti
3 ppl only targeting me like they have their own group and decided to attack me kekw
imagine
When
rumour
Thats cool
All I know is they tried to pick up SSG before they were SSG and dipped after idk now
Who’s bothering you? Smh people shouldn’t take you too seriously anyway
Tell them to leave you alone
Stand up to bullying 💪🏻
i enjoy it
guys i think kevster is a "joke" compared to good tracers
Don’t let them bully you dude
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Ans being able to beat 4/5 off role Wac
Is it in Korean?
Translate it for me please
ans aint washed
yes
@weary scarab not true and u know it but u cry cuz i called youbi garbage
Nvm then
😂
Only language I’ll watch that I don’t understand is Chinese
he beat 4/5 off rolling wac members by 2:1
Ans still got his aim
ans valorant when
im just laughing at the fact that you called youbi garbage when he stats diffed sauna in both games, and the top tier tracer kevster lost against him
Wow was he stacking with any one
ladder korean team+ Ans VS 4 Wac + 1 ladder
@weary scarab sauna HARD DIFFED youbi
Lol who was the +1 on wac?
yea if ans joins yeti
Chorong on tank tho
they fr might be able to beat even falcons
demontic was watching too bro can say if tracer is good or bad i cant
😎😎😎
lmao youbi literally had the second best stats all game, the only part of the game you watched was the defence by ataraxia on eichenweld lol
Rumors that either roc or fnatic gonna pick up maybe yeti…
@robust patio didnt sauna tracer hard diffed youbi
go watch the stats they are public
demontic also came on defence on eichenweld
junbin and shu arent there
Not that convincing imo
Hmmmm interesting
ans still aint washed
I am not sure
he keeps on beating lip on ladder consistently
Cuz they of rolled
but well have to see
Ans should join TSM. They need a 3rd hitscan lol
Quartz diff ans
HE SHOULD JOIN ENCE
all i know is sauna literally carrying and bullying cassidy
@weary scarab ur very funny man
LOL
Sauna also diffed kevster
look at the faceit stats g they aint lying
@robust patio ye but didnt sauna tracer bullied youbi
Instead of kai
on eichen
Guys trust sauna rolled youbi on eichen thats why they got held on second point
@humble token idc about that all i care about is that youbi is garbage and got diffed by everyone lol
he bullied quartz more
Quartz was just carring youbi was mid that match
in the stage 1 finals youbi diffed kevster
throwing pulse at his face
Youbi also got diffed by the coach
Youbi is not bad
u now say a whole diff stuff u talk about 1v1 now making it a team thing XDDDDD
He is decent
I guess sauna couldnt get a pick to win second point too bad
if sauna diffed youbi so hard, why didnt they win the map? why did youbi have better stats on both maps then sauna?
Ence should drop kev for me fr
Cuz quartz exist
if u talk about 1v1 and then knowing u made a mistake and changing to team thing then ur soooo funnu
funny
And kellan kinda diffed atraxia tank
@glass sleet kaiiii drop himmm
classic
Get ans there
shockwave is crazy on the soj cas too
i guess im soooo funnu
🇫🇮
Not as good as quartz
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣@weary scarab
shockwave aint good
nah im just laughing at you and feeling bad for you at the same time, first finland lost against saudi in world cup, now your favorite team got 0:2 by a team who wasnt close to dallas
why do ksa ppl think shockwave sparkr is good
i mean they are good but they arent top 20
They won world cup shut up
have u watched sparkr play recently bro
😂😂😂😂
he is definetely a top 10 ashe cassidy
dps overall wise
and cass top10
hell no
People understimating spakr
ur 100% right ❤❤❤
nah i dont believe you have watcheed the spacestation games
Spakr is craked
you would be chocked if u watched them
he is top 2 cassidy players in eu right now lol
faceit = low tier league
yea maybe
not in faceit
He did well in owcs
im just saying man, when u will watch spacestation against cracy racoons you will be chocked
whose spacestation tank
hadi
Name a na hitscan better than him that is not korean
so many
Right now not many
include koreans or na
he has turned up recently
Nah
yes
Ur tripping
u havent seen washed pine
Nah
btw merit got diffed vs sparkr yesterday
Merit migth be washed
if it was just one or two single diffs it aint really a diff
Or getting
Where u get thst
counted
💀
lip has more but i lost count
its around 26-29 area
i counted 23- 13 correctly tho
Does pine play different game rn
he sometimes play old korean fps game
called sudden attack or sometimes
tf2
which is where he got his aim
I mean does he play proffesionally in any other gsme
i know where he works at rn
nah
he was gonna play in vanc titans
but covid happened
and he retired
pine getting his Mvp interview after bullying merit Ans dps
@weary scarab i feel sad for you
thank you ana 🙂 now i feel goo
commanderx is watchin the twisted minds vs diempero replay right now btw
ur welcome ❤
ence lost to ataraxia in faceit
tm playing spacestation next week
yes im aware... 3 ppl bullied me here cuz of it lol @rugged quest
tm better cuz thry won vs. ataraxia etc.
im just saying theyre right and move on
i cant argue about a faceit game 🤣🤣
lol
they beat ssg in a scrim few hours earlier
so pretty weird they lost
yes but scrims doesnt matter according to them
but in the good side im glad that sauna and raajaro r doing well
yes
7finns to ewc?!
phi and DANNE DD is there too right
they got picked up by sovereigns eu
do you know them?
They used to be pretty big in eu contenders before
i do
but yeah sovereigns eu is back
i was watching too much contenders 😂😂
it was fun tho
sheer cold is ded sadly
one of my favorites
yeah theyre cheeks now
ex oblivione had the best twitter posts hands down
i dont think i followed them
but theyre not competing in faceit btw
cuz of moral reasons
they had space theme
it was like "another team has been consumed by the void"
after wins
and it was something different everytime
they gave their spot to another team
ik
but their players are pretty spread out
twisted, ataraxia sovereigns
ye
tbh i dont care about esports like i used to so i dont follow rumors and news on twitter (deleted it)
i just watch some important games only
I think it’s because they knew they wouldn’t qualify so they took the chance to virtue signal
They could have easily qualified??
vestola had to be on map 5 on junkertown
No they wouldn’t. That’s even if they could keep their players
emea will get like 4 spots
they can make 4th place easily
They don’t pay their players so they would’ve lost them 100%
no eu team pays real salaries except ence ssg tm
youre just coping
No I mean exo donates their money to charity instead of paying their players
they couldve made thousands for nothing by competing
@rugged quest do u know much?
wdym
In ssg everyone gets like minium wage base rate
in ence salaries are more spread out
All I remember is gunba was getting paid 500$ by ence
ok but do we know how much
If they made him then yeah he better get paid the most lol
well ssg and ence players make like minium wage on average
tm players earn better
Which is?
below those 3 its peanuts
and how much is it
Do they? Or we just assuming cuz it’s a Saudi org?
same question lol
Its been said that quartz earns low-mid owl salary
so 50k+
No way TM players get paid more than falcons players 💀
Falcons is a bigger org im sure
just quarts probably
Maybe just quartz cuz he was getting a lot of offers from owl so TM wanted to keep him
yep
but i think the other tm players earn more than ssg/ence too
if they are willing to play quartz properly
All I know is that even falcons aren’t close to owl salaries
do we know how much does ence players earn? its ok if u dont know lolll
Its a big disparity
Look up minimum wage in EU
like cloudy and gunba earns practically nothing
its diff
its probably like 2k
Gunba was fine with 500$ ish cuz he was getting paid by Australian government
average
No money in the scene
It’s 2k for playing video games instead of a 9-5 job
Hadi is happy with that lol
but if they perform well they can get decent bonuses
He said he gets paid for doing nothing
That’s why I think pros should stream too. To get more income
Whether 2k is horrible depends on where in eu you live too
in eastern europe thats like average working mans salary
in nordics that poor
bro u playranked + scrims + vod + stress
I think hadi lives in Poland
for 2k...
yeah in poland thats liveable
They’re gamers…playing games is what they do anyway so they just get paid for it
At least that’s how hadi thinks about it
how much does cloudy get from streaming?
Bro i dont know that much lol
he has like 600subs? so like 2euro each
idk
im just saying its too much stress for low paid work u earn more when u work at a convenience store
@rugged quest 1k subs
- ads
I’m pretty sure they would rather keep doing what they do than work at a store
It fluctuates alot
he sometimes has 500 sometimes 1000
last time i checked he had like 600
its chill tjo
At this point its a passion job
@rugged quest 💀💀💀
you cant do it for the money
ye
unless youre like sirmajed
He’s doing it for the experience 
ik
He dropped out at 15 i think
If these gamers don’t wanna go to collage than they really need to start some shit online on top of professional gaming
you cant even do that anymore in finland
reinbros for life
How I thought you can’t drop out of high school 💀
The smart move is to get a scholarship and play owcs/faceit as a sidehustle
is high school obligatory?
