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@hard forge chase picked window
IM A SPARKR WORSHIPER NOW
What a god
u mean peeked?
yeah chadi would never
Rip
Dallas Major Predictions
CR
FALCON
M80
Toronto
SSG
ENCE
TM
SOG
geges.
Bro even hydron would do better
Ok now let's not push it
unironically
@rugged quest fk the haters its ok kai was an npc
I can order my lunch now
Chadi and sparkr my goats
i can breath dude
i was clenching my ass so hard
Ence front lines: 
Ence back line: 👶
but sparkr is my actual god now
💀
CHADI CHADI CHADIIII
sprkr potm prob
seicoe sparkr is a killer lineup
Bro the failed stagger was so funny
Get kai out the highlight reel he don’t belong there
ence wasnt even seeing sparkr
I got another 4hrs on the road I can watch all the matches today
we run it back in dallas its fine
just giving free shots
also forgive me but kai actually threw overtime
Sparkr must be invisible
fr
kai couldnt 1v1 him xd
horrible kai ult
Bro kai was being hydron there
lool true
kai hydron KEKW
ence needed to push high ground
Kai's overclocks literally look like mine
we needed vestola too
Kai hasn’t gotten a single kill with any of these oc I think
not chase
Yeah idk why chase was in for orisa
thats kinda true
VESTOLA WAS THE ANSWER
he choked on suravasa but he wouldve made the difference here
fkn chase inted
In this series? No
I think he got 2 in the peps series
Bro kai vs lip looks like bronze vs champion
sparkr vs lip and merit about to be great
this was so good
that will be fun to watch
lip clears all
Bro is him when it comes to missing
POTM ON GOLLY
Bro was spaming tank
Sparkr is on top
but you know that will be a geat match to watch
Seicoe and sparkr stocks going crazy rn
i wanna watch Lip vs quartz
Chadi helped him prov
@hard forge lemme tell u what should've happen: u go high ground with 5 ppl and use overclock ez win.
ence team wouldnt trust Kais overclock
Bro he did not hit a shot
there will be nothing to watch
too bad 
other than a domination
u speed on supports face with overclock
sparkr the better hs unfortunately
?
thats worth watching
we win these
Kai just isn’t a soj player
it feels nice having SSG be stage 2 champs
Shoulda stayed on the bastion
speed on their face with overlock
Dpened if ksaa is going to be back
like.
truth
....
idk why but kai wasnt on his max today
he couldnt get a single kill at all
with ults
Have you seen the way kai plays when he gets oc
of ksaa can make it back tm can actually have good games against NA teams
He just drops back
like at least taking a map off maybe
I dont think I have seen worse soj preformance lol
maybe 2
And starts whiffing shots
i wanna believe TM can beat toronto
isn't ksaa dropping out because of school?
for my own health
doesnt matter u go in with overlock to their fcace like ...
i thought that was a rumor
we havent been told really
it pierce through
is that hearsay?
Tm could beat m80 full strength
who's potm? sparkr?
genuinely with everyone main roles yes
sparkr actually robbed here
To be fair seicoe was still good
but seicoe is mad still
what ence shouldve done yea, is go through the stairs on the right and take high ground and go down the stairs where their spawnpoint is guarding it, then they push payload
my fucking goats fr
korean brain right there
🗣️
bro he lost everytime he played rein what are u talkingabout @hard forge
imma go see what ow twitter is lookin like rn💀
rein gyapp
his energy is there
sparkr just walks to the backline with 0 fear on hero’s that have no BUSINESS doing so
they didnt play rein lol
Na could be good but I honestly dont care
orisa gaming
dude can you take a fucking joke 😭
Wait doesent m80 have ultra violet
yes
im not
happy as hell rn
fkn chase
Ultraviolt is very good flex
vestola...
believed in them from the start🙏🙏(2 days)
recruit Clear to TM
He is top 2 na flex support
Is that allowed
The only competition is rupal
idk 👀
i dont think Tm got a chance with kellan and admiral
Who’s better seeker or kai
Kellan wont do muxh
Seeker
Imo adrimnal is pretty decent
seeker is from canada
Na used to have more good players
In like 2019
decent wont make the team get top 4
yes he will go against someone, smurf and hanbin
Damn thesee rules suck
why is willy on rn is tm playing?
Gg
I would say similar skill to kellex
lbdd winton vs junbin smurf someone hawk winton
lol
I mean lbbd7 off roled on support in world cup but that is because support is way easier then tank
LBD7 goat of winston
on gizzle
LBBD7 >>>>>> Smurf Winston
i believe in him (they get knocked out day 1)
Is that all the matches for Today?
ngl lbbd7 might be the ultimate player. bros playing all the roles on pro scene...
💀💀
tm full roster beats pf i think
Ah
He is teru of eu
I forgot about na
enter mirror and hydration
XD
we never know
no
Oh
?
Oh
u never know
How
Pelican dps better than merit
im so hype
I mean yeah but Ence almost beat SSG and SSG won earlier
you never know
Merit didn't show up at all and m80 just played better
should be a good game tbh
Daf looked impressive as hell
They look good now that everyone is on lan
Who’s Toronto about to play
bro ence lost from 3-1 like...
I think Toronto has looked much better historically but M80 finally got their shit together
wait wait wait
merit didnt show up?
No
Like did not play?
Yeah like he played bad
He was in the game lol
pelican dps also mightve improved
Bad day ig
pelican been carrying M80 since day 1 XD
he has a human team now tho
and he’s off ping
ima sleep... i cant get my head straight
peli happy vs Sugarfree mer1t lowkey goes hard
gngn
😭😭😭
It's been said before that merit has a tendency of half-assing important matches
m80 has the better dps line but toronto has better everything else
how did bro win 2023 OWL GF
yeah but honestly the DPS line isnt THAT hard of a diff
sugarfree is just there
Outlaws weren't ready fr
dam
he’s not korean
but hes solid asf
doesn't have to be korean
Sugarfree has looked fantastic in general
He’s not nearly has good as the other 3
its close lmfao
Not rlly
it rly is
Nah I think he is
idk why u are the professional korean dickrider rn
who we comparing sugarfree to
Sugarfree is a tier below merit and m80 dps but still solid
Do you think m80 wins if sugarfree and peli were swapped yesterday
Super on genji
He was already only Vancouver and that was with him and heesang swapping tracer every game
💀
He's improved since then and he's on his heros
I mean I dont think that was the sole deciding factor
M80 just played angles and comps better
that game
overall
I dont think m80 automatically loses if peli is on toronto lmfao
defo a harder time
mb a little
not by that much
dont get me wrong I agree peli is better but I think u are heavily underrating Sugarfree
sugarfree isn’t even the best tracer NA
None of these teams compare to my goat pigboy best na dps
He’s top 3
yes
aside from Tr33
Kinkyladder4
whenever tr33 is of age
Jay 3>
but being a really good tracer is needed
i havent seen Na or emea matches a lot since stage 1 so idk if sugarfree is on korean lvl or not
he is a rly good tracer
He isn’t rokit
yall decide
he doesn't have to be literally the best tracer
i only watched ow korea japan and asia
top 3

I don't think he's up there yet but the gap isn't as big compared to other players

Jay3 goes to Korea and diffs
I think hes on level of Rokit on just tracer sure
but on any other hero sugarfree is much better
nah rockit a decent bit better
a little
rockit is the best mei NA
its not that big
mb
but sugarfree is overall a better player
esp on echo genji
Rokit only has tracer and mei
whos the best non korean soj in NA
Lenny has just as good of a tracer + the echo genji
Kai
Seeker or pge

really the same player tbh
i haven’t watched an SOG game
like its not out of this world that Sugarfree goes toe to toe with Peli in a given map
He's actually an anomaly I swear
idk i shldve watched owcs na 🤣
it's like he would look really solid
Pge is funny content guy
Then he'll slide in 1v5
he seems p decent but
That’s just a na play
more funny content guy
whats team is seeker on
not the classic clip
I think if apply came back and started playing pro again he would be good
oh hey ohm
Watching pge is like "IS THIS THE FUTURE OF NA??? OVERWATCH" then it's "how did this guy become a pro player"
hi Rem
bro was aiming in the past
Ehhh
if he was there a second ago its a one clip
TOR vs sog
ong
He'll be ok
he forced tp trust
Good for NA maybe
i wanna see Lip soj vs seeker soj
XD
yes
def wasnt the echo that did
He would get shit on
By a lot
It wouldn’t be close
You have best soj in the world vs best soj NA
lmao
cant wait to see sog vs cr
Fmcl
in finals
scissors looks solid
It was a ragtag group of contenders players+ seeker
bro be chillin on discord
lel
renko is technically owl too
albeit not as much experience
pge gonna get bent over by merit again
xD
believe in the aura
that haircut was tactical
i’m watching PGE for this match
had to nerf the good looks so his game skills are heightened
yall should too
yeah we all are🙏🙏
@sonic flax STAGE 2 CHAMPS
jesus this is scary
congrats
WWWWWWWWWWW
rak watching owc stream while waiting for his match to startr is peak
COME ON SOG
i believe in sog
YAAAYYY CONGRATULATIONS
he just shit on rupal
CONGRATS
3 minute delay on pge stream
CHEERS
are we seeing this
why is sog winning
are u guys seeing what im seeing
expected 
Is the aura truly too much
Na only chooses 2 teams right?
am i awake
3
Why we have more than Asia is unknown
99-0 before the flip oh my days
2
is it cr and falcons?
yes
Yup
yeah no toronto are taking this round
surely 
UM?
omg
HELLO?
Scissors is fucking nice
What the hell was that window
someone is actually angry
yeah i was gonna say
omg he barely touched
THAT WAS SO CLOSE
somone carried that
not too bad
he touched on a millisecond of time
bro said if merit isn't here I'll show up twice
do you guys think toronto were doing this on purpose
told you
people say he’s best tracer NA
idk about all that
def not lmfao
No I don't think they're giving it 100 tho
Besides someone
hmmm ic ic
Na may be lacking international but we are very entertaining especially if you know the players
Makes sense when you realize almost all of them stream
yall think stream might go on for 4 more hours
Vega lmao
true though
Na is entertaining
I agree
Also why was that map so quick
I saw 2 different windows used and they looked like the ones I see in my lobbies
only in na do you have the 13 year old tank prodigy of NA, the self proclaimed "darklord" pge, and sum lifeweaver guy playing into someone and merit
Streamer central on na
Sogbros I think it's over
pro comms
Phara
Pro comms
nevermind
Wait Toronto on dive it's ggs
I thought sog was gonna really roll out with the lw mercy
SOG dive crazy??
SOG????
Infekted secretly got aura???
SOG coming 4 Dallas champs???
SOG ARE SO FUN MAN
I told you
Someone is angry
Everyone else chilled out bc they qualified but bro doesn't like losing
He may have a smile on his face way too damn much
did SOG qualify? I think they did
But he is angry
No way we’re gonna see pge in lan
Every time I see Smurf or someone they have a grin on their face
These Winston players Man
PGE 😭😭
They already qualified I'm pretty sure
This match doesn't matter
SOG match this match matters to me okay? 😭
The moment lg lost to citrus sog was set
kinda insane that vega lives that high noon
Fr
that sheild flick was so fast
more winton pls
someone refuses to lose to PGE
I'm pretty sure every fight win had someone kill 3+
Mei?
Wtf
Oh ok
Bro just bagged someone 💀
someone is gonna be fuming
Scissors montage boutta go crazy
Who won EU
ssg
I told you Seicoe is the better tracer
Toronto gonna do a TM and come back from lower finals to win their run back
If Mr mer1t stop trolling then yes
Lmao
Remove echo man
sugarfree should play echo more
is there a reason that SOG are using Uprising skins?
Infekteds name is boston
what
his name is boston so they're using the Boston skins
PGE had to win 2 1v1s in a row
that was nice
I have a feeling merit is just saving his skill for happy
I hope so
If not imma have sum words for him at Dallas
imma personally fly out there
Just to tell him off
the stats 💀
SOG 3-0 is real
SOG reverse sweeps
I wish
reverse sweep tbh'
INFEKTED IS PLAYING META
once rak locks the weaver its over 3-2 sog wins
Why hasn't he rn?
the paypal hit
OH MY GOD HOW ARE THEY THERE
you haven’t seen it before💀
it’s commonly known i thought
No bro
I play there every time
Going to next time I'm on that map
I'm used to being on bridge or that middle pillar since I play lucio
why is pge killing my merit
Damn he got it back
With no assist lol
He landed a rail unlike this certain European dps player
PGE is doing better than kai against a better team than SSG
LMAO
ggs
Pge and scissors got the highlight reel clips that's all that matters
saving this thank you so much
Someone's primal is so clean
Especially on that first map
Merits tracer is not the move
only 1 match left right?
I love you Jonny but buddy you gotta stop yapping
His hair is black again?
Danny means Korean interviews
This is why he's the goat
First time I've seen someone not smiling
LMFAOOO
Happy and pelican’s chance to beat merit, someone, and rupal in grind finals and take their revenge.
I was an outlaws fan so I want them to win
But I like Toronto more
So was I so I want m80 to win
Lenny must inherit pge's aura to diff pelican
I lost all my points and I only gained 4k back
Imma put my 4k on m80 and I HOPE they win
Why is casores mic so ass
And gator actually
Why do the teams with money have the shitty mics
How to get owl tokens
Gator froze lol
Buy them
Can't earn them from watching anymore
Will they ever make it so u can get them from watching
No bc owl is dead
Cuz they spent all the money on players
Ok why is Jake glazing
Gotta be an outlaws thing
saying happy and peli can play the whole roster together is fine but separate??? Let's be real here
I want a echo mirror so bad
m80 wins these
What match is on rn?
merit is looking at his monitor today
Yeah
What
Someone did say they were over confident and didn't give m80 their all in the interview
Ah
That spear was so petty 💀
this is the back and forth I needed yesterday
Pro play is so different
They don’t run choke every time
They make the usually unorthodox angles look viable
they actually have access to the rest of the map
It's not main then I can't walk thru it fr
Idk Abt that window tho
Nvm Rupal said fuck the window
I love how fast paced pro play is
Did they just place the window on the window
Like the moment the dead eye ends they just walk up and both windows drop
I@gotta miss a few rounds of this match my phone gonna die
And my car charger is slow
Rip
SUGARFREE DIFFS PELI
Happy whipping out the widow tooo
Nah Lenny is having a game rn
ong
and toronto sets up so well around it
wuth someone
I love Torontos comms
It sounds like an eco system if that makes sense
M80 playing a good defense tho
Bro Lenny is fucking LOCKED
he's finding 2 every single fight
Someone rly gets the spike
The tracer mirror is actually so good
We still have replay codes right??
Where was uv??
Hawk just fell over
ngl push is so boring to watch
cant wait to see the same fight in the same spot 4x
Wow Toronto up 2-0
You missed the sigma lol
Sig mirror ?
lol
Real
honestly toronto beat trading is better for them
at this map stage
wait no soj ult pulse
XD
oooo
not the wall pulse
toronto choked a bit
we have a match tho
womp womp
if hawk didn't find merit they probably win
lyar and vega taking turns inting that map XD
Life of the Lucio
Ngl I might have Lenny over rokit rn for best tracer
Almost home I can finally watch the series not on a 6 million year delay
but honestly I think the hitscan gap has been bigger than the tracer gap this series
but its more team gap rn
than just hard dps
damn merit and happy matching the stats to a tee
push orisa comp moment
M80 is more comfortable on the orisa mirror for sure
they've been pushed to their limits on that comp so it makes sense
Why is uv mic so bad 😭
It clips every time he speaks
Come here
Comms get a little frisky
😭
Real team chemistry comms
When is mid season? I want hog, orisa, and venture all gutted so hard
NOOOOO
Owcs final stages should play on a different patch
maybe sum genji tho
a lot of teams like genji on this first point
Stupid ass characters
Cass genji may not be the move
These soj ults all day have been questionable
I think we were spoiled by lip
at least they respect Happy's oc
omg lyar
So many trades
Watching Cass get speared is hilarious
Beat for nothing is so bad
Merit seems more in the game
Lenny has a free blade now
Yeah he's been doing his thing now
No lamp either
doesn't matter if he doesn't use it I guess
I suspect Toronto presses q here
They keep winning these for free
I'm sick
M80 is the new Huston
Sugarfree blade was so good
S6 outlaws are leagues better than this team
Only thing is the dps duo
lyar is the weak point
w body block
💀
such good timing
Bro was talking Abt Vega inting when he's in the same boat
sugarfree got saved
Lenny wanted the clip so bad
Toronto getting carried by someone
Gr
See merit looks at his screen and they win
and he finds peli in ot
echo happy?? Fuck it
It's not enough tho
Unless m80 plays extra hard ENCE vs SSG taking best match of owcs for me
Daf vs ftg may be better tho ngl
I think ssg vs m80 is closer then we think
i’m more excited for that than toronto vs crazy racoon
Fuck
he will swap sojourn after first death
He’s gonna get ran over
HAPPY LMAO
that was funny af
Classic bob
idk why they called to engage that
weird call
the beat was bad but hte kiri ult was also odd
I mean at leasdt they traded but still
Yeah that wasn't even lyar throwing that's def a team call
yeah toronto is just playing so much better
but then again this is a giga defense map
so
still full holdable
i love merit ashe but bob is just so ass
they put merit with Rupal and they couldn't clear him ever
bob is rly good wdym
lmfao
bob literally won them 2 fights
isolated hawk at one point
One bob got booped completely
damn what hawk do
Imagine merit gets a pick here
I mean he isn't wrong
Ashe is mad underrated
this map is giga strong for ashe
tho
in particular
rly easy to farm dynamites here
esp on defense
this is her map
peli?
Merit is actually playing
what he doin
Seeing merit with the ow1 Florida skin just reminds me of BQB
m80 played that fight so terrible
wth
Peli just randomly peaking and dyhing main
He got diffed by Lenny on midtown and hasn't recovered
Bro he is so fucking nice
tbf its kinda team gap
overfall
Someone said they weren't trying for and he wasn't wrong
same thing happened with Timeless lmfao
basically
Im not too suprised tbh
thought it would be closer
M80 probably expected Toronto to play the same today and weren't prepared for them to be fully locked
GGS
Yeah I need TD vs CR
"pelican is 4x better than Sugarfree"
"sugarfree is the worst dps in the lobby by far"
Lenny Rupal and Landon are the only na players I think aren't over hyped
I just think sugarfree can’t hang in korean lobbies
Happy was doing well for a bit but just tossed esp on junk city
why lmfao
Just not has good or experienced vs dive comps
When merit realizes he actually has win>>>>>
No he's definitely experienced
he literally played in owl vs top teams and did veryh well there as well
He was in owl during that dive meta
why don’t they pick illios then
because they would rather play brawl?
Not too many paid attention to that Vancouver team which is why heesang and Lenny are surprising ppl
If they can just win a dive mirror why not
that doesn't mean he doesn't have dive experience lmfao
and toronto is prob a better dive team anyways
with someone winston and rupal ana
Yeah Toronto scrimmed dive more than this orisa comp
yeah idk what this narrative is
tbf you don’t need to practice orisa comp lmao
Rupal has been forcing the ana in scrims since the start of s9 they definitely can play dive
yeah
even if they aren't as good as the eastern teams u dont need to just force dive 24/7
I don’t know how rupal does it ana is so painful to play rn
brawl comps and poke are pretty good rn
she’s probably the hardest support in pro play
like KR will play dive even if tracer healed people ngl
it's not like Korea isn't playing the orisa either
and its not like Sugarfree is that much worse either
he did very very well versus peli and happy
The only region actually doing it's own thing is eu
I dont see how he wouldn't do well versus Stalker
who imo isn't as good as people like to say
Stalker is very good but hes not even best tracer on his team lmfao
I had stalker as the best tracer in owcs before the Asia break
But after I probably got heesang ngl
yeah
Heesang and Sugarfree could be a banger
I think Heesang is better but at the same time
its not THAT bad
lmao
I think that in general KR just plays better overwatch rn
in terms of angles and general gameplay
probably the same level of diff has a potential seeker vs quartz
kr mtd everyone else
I think it’s doable for sugarfree
korea understands how to play overwatch more than the other regions but there's definitely players that can play on that level individually
hes obv very good and has been playing very good even versus the "korean goats"
its not like they have the fucking gaming gene lmfao
??? they do
Didnt Lenny have a genuine rookie of the year campaign going at some point
uh KR may not MTD Toronto
mostly cause I think Someone is arguably the best tank in ow rn
mostly with flexibility
imho
i will be shocked if toronto can get more than 2 maps against crazy racoon
I think on maps where the orisa and sigma both get played he has the advantage
they lose a dive mirror
but I think that NA practice isnt as good as KR practice
like if they play Smurf on midtown they lose the sigma matchup yk
So it depends on the maps
prob but I don't not see a world where TOR can mirror dive and take a map
Bro Toronto should go to Korea for a month and return for dallas
Would require racoon to have a thrower lol
Just have Rupal take a vacation from college
and honestly I think that TOR has more flexibility than Racoon
easily
if its not a hard dive meta its winnable fs
ehh idk
bc chorong and shu are very flexible and I think in the tracer echo comp they lose out there
Idk I think it's even
yeah they lose tracer echo but its not 100% just tracer echo
if they can avoid any double flex dps comps then yeah
unless the meta really really shifts that way
like if blizzard deletes Kiri orisa could be sus
why is the white balance so ass
got the heaven gates shining on someone
Danny gotta hit the double yap sesh in two languages
Wow guys all of these are close matches!
I wonder if toronto is gonna beat twisted minds!
Actually bye rounds
Why couldn’t they make this fun
I’m kinda pissed
Why can’t we see fair games
I wanted m80 vs SSG
Maybe if TM had the full roster it'll be better
They really robbed us of SSG m80 and sog tm
so it’s gonna be team falcons vs racoons for the fourth time lol
yea p much
They did it so the saudi fans didn’t get upset
They didn’t want the saudi fans to be pissed if they lost to SOG lol
He’s gonna have a field day
@wicked elk according to liquidpedia the bracket is double elim
So we still might get those games
Oh it also says it in the ss lol
M80 vs ENCE could be nice if Kai locked in
And if m80 beat ence in losers they might see SSG later
oh thank god
we’re probably gonna get toronto vs SSG
lowk want falcons to lose to ence so I can see proper vs pge