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No like saudi is running the esports world cup it's confirmed
god why does emea have so many team fights
no woner dallas gave them 3 spots
Atleats he is mid
I mean it’s possible but honestly prob not
put retired Fearless on TM
is world cup even happening this year
Twisted minds team is made up of the goat (quartz) and a goat (lbbd7)
Fearless can sig so
Like idk how many American pros hold up to the best kr pros overall on a role to role basis
Ik sugarfree could
I think tank would be the biggest gap
Super
thats about it
If there's no imports: Seeker, sugarfree, hawk, rupal Vega and Landon for double flex
Rupal?
nah theyre all fake
btw what happened go trashtalking hydron
just super
what happened to him
Rupal as well
Or is he Canadian?
He got humbled and became a streamer
wym
💀
Seeker is
lets goooo
noce
Idk
Oh yeah canada
Guxue!
shame we couldnt see them in owcs
Well they had imports last year so let's just assume they have them again
If tr33 is eligible they just run him and sugarfree for dps
Super is still good
Washed?? Bro came out washed
why not make countries be able to make more teams for world cup just likr league of legends and Pubg
Hydron is worse then Ken from aww yeah
just put 7 korean teams in ow world cup
💀
Ken is decent to be fair
I wanna see super coach
Hydron is not that bad but he’s ran his mouth a few times and always failed to back his claims
get pge on team usa
No no he is that bad
fr
His year 1 on florida he was actually good
Idk why they would get super outside of clout Ngl. At this point he hasn’t played pro for years and honestly prob wouldn’t be as good as someone or hanbin/ Smurf n shit
definition of "that bad"
Imo
Hydron is like so bad rn
Hes a widow one trick at the end of the day uf we fr
Super is good but not a pro player rn
hydron is a worse version of pine. And like significantly worse
You cant compare him to pine
Idk if he’s worse than pine lmfao
Depends on the hero, super’s rein is still majestic
Hydron is sooo bad
If you're a widow one trick you just play hitscan and he got diffed in every single toruney
this reminds me of how xqc placed dia when he got on ow2 last year
💀
Ok and what other hero. Maybe Winston and orisa?
I mean it’s not that bad
even if they cant win it
Sym strat now
Hes also hd extreme moments of brilliance like against titans on map 7
Mental fr plus if there was a rein meta he'll be solid for sure
I think super can play anything at ok tourney level
Super could compete but not that he doesn’t have the potential to be as good again but he just hasn’t played pro, idk why u would take him over hawk at least
It's not like super was ever this super high mech player it was always the game sense and mental
plus if china show up
Yeah if ur na u are either playing to win or content team
its china kr and ksa top 3
my prediction for 2024 Korea worldcup roster
Coach: Crusty Moon Pavane(2019 world cup korean coach)
Tank: Someone, Junbin
Dps: Lip, Flora
Dps: Heesang
sup: Chorong
sup: Fielder
i believe🙏🙏
Cause hawk monkey isnt good
hell yeah
At least to how much i know
But if ur picking one tank u don’t need money 100%
Gimme shu over fielder ngl
there is no world cup
saudi is hosting one i think
And hawk iffers way more heroes and experience
I would rather have shu
Shu is better
fair might as well take both
Given there aren’t many great American tanks compared to international but Tbf that’s kinda the west overall outside a few players and heroes
damn Tm getting bullied
nah hes
Saudi is hosting a esports world cup and overwatch got a spot
Makes sense bc they poured a munch of money into it
banned in international esports
Ig oil wells dried up
Oh yeah💀
Darn those Korean laws
I mean for dubbel flex dps
hes better with flora
If you wanted double flex you just put lip and stalker back together
But lip should be more then enougth
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ir is org based
not country
Oh
Is thqt a scrim
like that is why orgs are coming
quartz not being able to carry a team alone
not countrys
Ofc they did with a full roster they're a better team
Nvm
ggs tm
YOUBI
YOUBI damnm
WAIT
Omg youbi refuses to go out like that
WOAH OK
GENJ
Echo
sad
no fucking way how did peps fumble that
Migth aswell cook
ok lbbd7 Winston is crazy
nope real match literally full caps colloseum 100:0 on objective points and capped on hybrid with 2 mins
like why
lbbd winton vs junbin winton
there it is

Ye I read wrong lol
at least they got the flip
They did well with skai and lbbd7
now if ENCE drops into losers and peps win (which they won't) no Dallas for tm
1 map atleast
No things have to be perfect for peps from here on out
90%. Team peps gotta get top 2 and that aint happening
LBD should mb be sent to prison bro
only if ENCE loses the next game and loses to peps which they wont
Not his fault he didn't ask for this
Yeah tm prob in Dallas
What if peps win againt ssg if ssg loses to ence
But Ngl if TM doesn’t get their shit together they are gonna run it down again
Doesn't matter
they are not in
ENCE need to be third right?
Well they won in the last stage or whatever
in Korea law, theres a player contract lawsuit where a player cant really leave until their matches are fully over
ence is confimed
idk the point system is stupid
nah lbbd7 is just temporary for this stage because they know they are 90% qualed. kellan or another tank will be in next stage
ssg and ence are confirmed in
does ksaa not have that kind of contract?
from points
My assumption is that there is a good chance they can still get in despite them looking terrible rn
Even then team wise they look p split
Not just lbd getting caught
because they have lbdd7 on tank and admiral is benched
you guys think
the tank was the shotcaller
kellan got bullied in wc
They're confirmed in but they can still place third right?
bro is not saving tm
Given I’m not an expert but they don’t look very good this split in comparison to top teams
They bench adrimnal
i think so
why the hell would they do that
if yzn didnt get banned for whatever it is he did, then him on flex dps with quartz couldve been enough to carry tm right now?
Idk lol
the points are so werid
yzn is shit
That’s the other thing idk if kellan is that much better
im not sure how much a good dps duo can do with no tank
And I think the second place points would just edge out twisted if peps place there
No lmfao
nah hes very good but not good in this meta
but I don't think it's possible for peps to get second
hes a shit person but afaik his echo was decent
Bro pharah sucks there is no point in having yzn
contenders level at best
His echo and pharah are good
That’s about as far as it goes
U don’t take him over youbi on tracer ever
Echo is not hard meta either
not talking about pharah
whats a pos
pretty much just illios and lijang lol
thats true
Piece of shit
She is in the dive mirror but nobody in EU plays it lol
but icl there was a point where yzn was the carry with youbi on a roster
Not that it matters for gameplay but
Eu dont pick those maps
Still
yzn is no where near “good”
Problem is that he’s a pharah echo two trick when u talk about international
quartz is the only dps i prob respect
And like that’s just not a good hero pool
well thats just clearly a blind take, since they walked through finland, sweden, germany, turkey, iceland, norway and the 2 others with easy with yznsa carrying
I mean even intentionally there's just better echo players
Youbi in 1uartz are only good saudi dps
i swear people cant admit that hes a good player just because hes a problem guy
other than finland they are all ladder lvl
I mean half those games are irrelevant Mickey Mouse group stage in the World Cup
He is only good in pharah echo
Finland was relevant Tbf
kevster got diffed in swedens team against him
Good on what level though?? Like contenders sure I'll give you that but that's Abt it
yes he is lol
💀
Not anymore
kevsetr is definetely up there
Kevster is goat idc
Kev is up there
he was
Great tracer
in 2022
Idk why ppl think he’s not
"so punishing of labda's mistakes" his game was nothing but mistakes
but not really anymore
even then in his prime
Well to be fair kevster ony is really good on one hero
he got diffed by proper
He's good but he isn't even the best tracer rn
Everyone gets diffed by proper
thats how it should be
exactly
except Lip
Proper is alien
They've always did this when we have desk
theyhave done that for a while
if asia did this
i hope ssg get rolled
crowds would all sleep
Emea and na get all the content budget
no western streamers are even watching the korea games
yzn is actual dogshit
some of this analysis is common knowledge for korean coach
Ence is like team finland but betyer
That's mainly bc the timezones
CommanderX watched them
I avoided him when he was playing support because he's actually uncarryable if roho or lbbd arent semiraging on a smurf
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yeah but its proper
Bro did not just send a jay3 video
wait till yzn meets Flora
does anyone know why ksaa can’t play

Personal reasons
wait till yzn meets Lip
Flora can play pharah?
Blud it’s finland
wait till yzn meets heesang echo
bro im not scrolling through like 1000 overwatch esports lives to find this game 😂
namakuji brothers clear team finland
This has been talked about on broadcast, to answer your question, if ENCE gets third they are in.
he can play any dps
Heesang stalker and peli all gap yzn on his own hero
emea/na stream format is the best,even with casters rn
finland got top 3 in world cup and beat korea lmao
n english ofc
im sure to become a pro gamer in korea, u have to be good at every single hero
i know nothing about korea and japan streams in their languages
even Jjonak, his main hero was hog
but coach forced him to play mei zen winton
zarya
jjonak hog was crazy
I was made to believe that Twisted Minds are an S tier team with S tier players in every position, how did the famous World Cup core lose 3-1 to some European noobs???? Who is this Kevster I didn't see him at the World Cup?????
They lost ksaa

And admiral hasn't played in two days for sum reason
Finland beat nerfed korea
fr
wc was unlucky meta for korea
World cup was literally not competitive
they had dive specialist roster
People gotta stop using it has a metric
strong poke team vs weak poke team(dive strong team)
and then blizzard said let's play poke : )
fr
Yea and its dumb to specialise so hard
Wc was literally just "well KSAA just has the best sigma and quartz is good so they win"
Florida mayhem was way to go
if korea had their actual best players they wouldve won it all, even had a chance vs china
people think world cup is the fucking super bowl of ow
but they had sparkle for whatever fucking reason
The meta was shit and the teams were literal troll rosters
last owl season, Mayhem won during Poke meta Someone sig MVP
That usa champion team gets smoked nowadays
Honestly if they did not have sparkle they could force dive and win
if world cup happened in this patch china wins
Imagine SOMEONE was in korea rosters
THATS WHAT IM SAYING?
easily win poke meta world cup
why himmmm
But he'll be making less money
wait when does dallas lan even begin? anyone know
wouldve been mad dude
Yesh i never get it either
In a month
we couldve had korea china finals
how??
idk the exact date
couldve been anyones game
alr
but i think korea couldve won
Apparently he's getting paid a lot to be in na
oh you meant world cup
im talking about world cup last year
easiest job ever
Myb
Bro becoming rich
last year Someone would hard stomp Ksaa sig
Yeah idk why someone wasn't on that roster to begin with
its end of may
cus ow world cup qualifers was Dive meta
I wish they gave the 3rd emea roster to Korea
Ah makes sense
eu only has 2 strong teams
The only diff i could see from ksa is quartz
if toronto had pelican they could win finals
lip was already breaking his back carrying korea in non-dive
so dive team cant do shit
imagine him and someone
and literally any flex dps that isnt sparkle
Not even hating
This is unfortunately true
i hope they do better this wc
he’s just not up there
U need a good tracer
and we get to see someone v guxue dive or whatever
bro was carrying sp9rkles troll so many times he had to take a rest during flashops 🤣🤣🤣
dawg how i dont got my regular role back i have like 5k messages in here
He's a good tracer but he isn't a Korean tracer
Sugarfree needs to become korean
he’s not even the best tracer NA
i miss guxue doom guys</3
Rokit
ong💀
rokit also has the best mei NA
Yeah rokit is a tracer one trick so makes sense
He does?
nah. Id say ssg over ence
falcons 4th place prayge🙏
sparkle is on adderal or some shit bro
I've never seen him on anything but tracer
Toronto should steal rokit tbh
WAIT NO FLASHOPS
I don't think so
I only remember bc Lenny on Mei was shitty in flash ops 💀
Blizzard loves buffing mei
i predict
1: CR
2: Falcons
3: Toronto
only person NA who has a better mei than rockit is pelican but that’s cheating
they have looked dominant lately.
toronto can take 2nd i believe
like actually possible
Falcons would actually need to fumble
u think merit beats proper
so hard
but wac on top
bro have u seen sparker. hes gone crazy on cassidy lately. just watch him get a 3k
Ssg has better team play
every team fight
Also kai is mid
not even the Mer1t v proper matchup stalk3r kisses Lenny on his forehead and puts him to bed
sure sparkr is good but he's not kevster
its duoble for sure but
merit and proper are quite close
Someone would carry
both are top 3 hitscan
sparker will diff kai on cassidy
Its possible
trust
Glad to see ppl on the sparkr train
plus ssg only has hadi while ence has chase jkaru and vestola
way more versatility in tank
how is someone's monkey?
Shy would be 4th
hadi has improved a lot tho
nah after yesterdays game sparker is the goat
It's good not the best in Asia tho
every tank he has is almost flawless
yeah but he's one man while ence has two good dive players and an insane sigma
For sure
he’s top 5 on every tank
Maybe top 3 tbh since fearless is retired
which is insane
He is atleast top 5 on every tank
guxue Smurf someone
Top 3 or 4 ball
He doesn't play Winston
Is donghak a top 3 rein
So
Yes idc hadi top 1 rein
Hanbin is there for the off tanks and Smurf plays the main tanks
Ngl someone rein diffs him
let me rank top 10 Dps in the world(both hitscan and flex dps)
Lip
Proper
Heesang
stalker
Merit
Flora
Prophet
Alphayi
Quartz
Knife
so zar dva and sig are fore hanbin and the orisa monkey for smurf
PROPHET MENTIONED RAAAAH
Dude prophet aint that high
his widow is always up there
valid but prophet ain’t all that
maybe except circuit lol
bruh if prophet had a great team
seeker all over again
hed be getting all the praises
Replace prophet for viper
how is hadis queen
his brawl is just better no?
Seeker winning valiant maps alone
never seen it
Viper is nasty
lets not talk about that
hmmmmmm but prophet more hero wide pool
am i seeing ram? 💀
That plus Landon is the better bap and Cass is better than the bastion
yep
Tbh idk why tf Kai is on Bastion over cass
Viper prophet duo would go crazy
Ram counters orisa i swear
korea enthusiast witnesses emea in all its glory:
damn ence losing
🤣
welcome to my region😂
Ell only genji echo
To early to call that
astro saving the day
no way u just said only genji echo
Kev mei ggs
to prophet
Is astro the best eu main support of all time???
astro carry
yes
I mean genji tracer viper
And sym
Bro ssg is crushing
i fuckin love ssg roster man
You guys understimating ssg
i would love to see the quartz vs sparker cassdy show off
sparker wins
he plays that hero way more
cassidy is quartz top 2 hero
i wish casting for this game was better, im not seeing wnough hype for this
he just didnt play it much before quz of meta
theres literally a hadi ram into mei bastion
Good players with good personalities
why arent we going crazy rn
Bro proud is better
REIN
REIN
HE'S HERE
IT IS BACKK
ITS OVER FOR ENCE
CHADI
erm
hadi took off the weights
Ignore that
nah he lost 6 1v1s against proud
THE HONORARY EUROPEAN STRIKES AGAIN
demontic are you seeing ts
yes
theres an actual real life rein rush comp
korea doesnt have this!!!!
rein should not work in korea
No one does rein sym like ssg
im having the time of my life rn
i miss the wc commentators man they had so much energy
Bro falcons are scared from ssg
Chiyo fielder stalker are all Atlanten player
BOOO
chat cut off vestolas nuts
Don't worry it's an intimidation tactic
He's very well versed in the whiffed tp shatter
Holy
No more mei hadi wins now
The tp
what a pin
Astro hunting for kevster
no one has more tp efficiency than backbone
you dont get it man it never works
Oof
Nice c9
its an aura thing
who puts a turret well exposed
hadi thing
C9
Kev popped off
LOL
easy tracer kill
WHAT THE HELL
Dogfight
that was backbone fault
put hadi on monkey
bro placed turret exposed
easy tracer ult
Kevster tapped in to his 2022 aura supply to get that double pulse
kevster soj?
ram rush into sig bastion...
ence comp is shit
i still don't like the bastion pick
hes specifically to counter hadi
they know his hero pool
bastion keeps him at bap
Cringe hero
what is kevster cooking
Yeah but it's a washed Kai with Kev on soj
bro how tf does ha have window in 20 sec
No shot in hell ence wins this series
its like meta in asia
well unfortunately he works for hadi here
but im not sure what soj does here
and why are we still on lucio instead of zen
More spam
yall what the fuck is happening💀
also soj is more of a flex dps
the bast kinda working right now
To move the sig and bastion I guess
ence should not be winning this
Kai is garbo. And space station aka London, is broken with team synergy. They use the power of friendship to beat ppl
Or to support kevster
Ence comps are a bit odd but seem to be workin
LANDON TOP FRAGGER
can they pls stop with this bastion sig ult shit
hadi rein
he deserves better
Chadi rein pick to save the day
chadi reingoat might get us the win
nahh backbone
Where tf was backbone looking
prayge
throwing
SMOKED
WHAT
Bro was looking in the complete other direction
LMAOOO
💀
im having so much fun yall what the fuck was this ladder ass map
that was the weirdest owcs map ever
im loving the ram rein
right lmao
picks
i missed the preds btw what did they look like for this match
Here's the plan astro on mercy, Landon on illiari, sparker on widow, seicoe in for tracer and hadi on zarya
How we feeling?
get this man a coaching spot in eu right now
cooking🔥
LANDON ON ILLARI FOR SIRMAJED AURA
hadi charging accross the map is sending me
@vale cobalt
will never not be funny
Wait ENCE might win Paraiso
shoot
They subbed in chase
wait
So it's a monkey mirror
rein mirror cowards
no honor
It's the faceit system
you sat here and watched rein, ram, and bastion but the map picks did it for you?
All maps are picked prior to the first map

damn
😂😂
weird
I love the swearing on broadcast again
"we can one shot them with monkey lucio kiri"
Chad comms
eu dive comms are so funny
All the unimportant comms get filtered subconsciously
its like this
Lets go dive
ggs he’s banned
crimzo mannnn 💀
everyone is talking but when someone says a keyword like "no suzu" everyone's brain flags it as important
u cant sleep a shield winton
He's too old for this
💀💀
like when ur listening to a foreign language like japanese or something but someone says an english word
you pick that up
or whatever
thats how it is for me at least
That's how a lot of mixed rosters worked in owl
tbh comms u rarely wanna speak in sentences even in korea
Broken English and important cds
140ping because of server and + 200ping because of old age
yes, i noticed korea comms are more efficient than this at least
dive fielder in 3 2 1
the Smurf and super "I bubble Smurf" and "Super Bubble" will always be iconic
SPACESTATION DIVE🔥🔥🔥
Low balls
Hadi has asserted dominance
Tiny balls
real
He's been playing it since stage 1
ram is working damn
He's genuinely been working on it a lot
is anyone in emea not using reworked hammond???
Uh chazm but that was bc he's a ball one trick and they got eliminated anyways
dam
they can barely play dive, they cant play with ball or doom
Ssg threw in stage 1 to get dive practice
is hadi top 5 winston rn lmao
Nerf Cass roll
i’m pretty sure he is
PRIMAL VS SUFFER
Ego stick
I mean its paraiso
IN A SMALL ROOM
what else
hadi wins those
The amount of care Cass gets in high noon is so funny
nuh uh its "aura"
You just see the whole team pouring everything into cass bc how trash the ult is
whatever that is
smart they backed
it’s like the same amount of care someone gets in a car accident
He becomes the objective
lmao
i wish someone cared about me has much has cassidy in high noon
Why did seicoe pause after the pulse
huge elim on the lamp there
hadi dammmm
i actually like crimzo and masaa backline
they get ot
i don’t think i’ve ever seen a cap in such a small amount of time before in owcs yet
smallest i saw before was like 1.6
but i dont know about kevster diffing seicoe on tracer
Brig Ana superiority >
idk seicoe that well but i heard hes crazy good
Chase literally fell over
bro what
well done
they got under for free
ohhh nice ana dive fr
ez clap for chadi 
I think echo has potential here
they win this
Bro wasted no time with the primal
bro knows how to juggle
and gets 3
Hadi is cooking
oh i have delay
They can’t go under like that
bro could lap chase in primal
watch it on twitch
That’s free ult charge
its faster
i have youtube premium so i’d rather not have ads
I was watching a co-stream
Nah Landon needs to cleanse that
and he had like 20sec delay
I have ads on twitch that’s why I use yt
I just use adblock
ah
i’m mobile
The main stream doesn't have ads besides the intentional first one
So unless you close stream and reopen it you should be fine
LMAO
So many accents
fr
i cant unhear it now
british american
holy yapping
and some other accent
This is so funny
crimzo comms so well
british is prob kai
fuck having announcers just have coms on all game
Who’s strong ass accent is that lol
so close
these longer comm things are very cool insight
did we get any ssg comms
The one who called the ult economy at the end?
?
Its masaa
pulsing there was not the move
the only reason it’s not a full mirror is because funnyastro would try to feed on brig
i expected more ram here
LOL real
wait who did we nano
He hasnt played rein at all
what was that
40s left
this map1 was the first time in ages
Kai
cash app hit
yea space wins this
Ggs
they got better ult econ
word makes sense
clise
Ooh a pulse on the wall
close**
Lmao
LETS GOOOOO
Ssg wins dive mirror ence wins brawl mirror, so exact same as in scrims
eliminated wall
good games though,as chaotic as they are
Yep
No?
Very good game
who else has played dive
would not be surprised
to be fair, dive is just remote brawl
what dies ence stand for
Wait was map 1 the first map loss for ssg for this stage?
to be fair, dive is just short range poke
xD
To be fair, poke is just long range dive
LOL said the same thing 🤣
Ence got their weak first map. SSG is going to clean this up.
Kevster and masaa can't carry hard enough
This is a very good series
love the cass diff
Better than most of the Asia matches
breath of fresh air after tm and peps earlier
we had a very good matches today
oh series
Daf match was insane
i didnt see yeti play
bullied by flora
I really wanted the upset
It was close
Backbone is in, we're going to see the sym, Mei, rein
did we get any new junk city on flashpoint??
Nobody likes that map
Besides aww yeah bc they have a junk player
on asia or emea
Landon back on bap? Ssg wins
i also cant remember if we got much escort
ouhhh nice
Escort is map 5 so not too much
yeah its a shame
No it's great fuck escort

