Apply made owl so not every owl player is t1
#esports-discussion
hybrid hollow
glass sleet
What about t2 players that beat t1? Are they not good enough cuz they didn’t play in owl? Not anyone in owl was t1 level
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yessir
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Quartz ksaa is t1
glass sleet
Face it league has tiers. T2 and 3 play separately unless they’re good enough to play in the t1 level
hybrid hollow
Oh I didn't know tht
glass sleet
outlaws was very good the last year lol
That’s why I mentioned them dude wtf
static pond
why u think it a free etry
hybrid hollow
I just knew it existed never looked past tht
static pond
legit it just contenders
glass sleet
Oh I didn't know tht
Yeah you won’t have a gold team playing against ssg lol
static pond
with a few t1 players
glass sleet
Did ence just take chase to kill off exo? I haven’t seen him play yet lol
glass sleet
Oh Skai is playing
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LBBD7 tank
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Who is skai?
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Who is skai?
Skairipa
hybrid hollow
Soe is burning the kitchen down with tht prediction
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and got signed to owl last season but didnt get playtime
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Oh
hybrid hollow
Why does soe autocorrect to die 💀
glass sleet
Soe is burning the kitchen down with tht prediction
She said ence
weary scarab
is ksaa retired guys or why isnt he playing?
hybrid hollow
She said ence
Nah nah we're taking her original pred
glass sleet
BRO. How can you say it’s gonna be close? Do you see the roster?? Lol
weary scarab
thewy got lbbd7 on tank lol
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is ksaa retired guys or why isnt he playing?
He did not retire but we dont know why he aint playing
glass sleet
is ksaa retired guys or why isnt he playing?
We don’t know what is going with him. All we know is that he doesn’t wanna play
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BRO. How can you say it’s gonna be close? Do you see the roster?? Lol
Idk lol
Big upset if tm wins
glass sleet
If he’s not playing cuz he’s mad they signed Kellen than that’s just selfish and unacceptable behavior. If he had personal problems going on then I wish him the best
weary scarab
We don’t know what is going with him. All we know is that he doesn’t wanna play
maybe something in his private life hope he good
hybrid hollow
Poor jaws
glass sleet
maybe something in his private life hope he good
Yeah
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LBB7 is goat if tm wins
glass sleet
Lbdd7 plays support and tank but never dmg
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Lbdd7 plays support and tank but never dmg
What dps he plays even
weary scarab
i wish i could see lbbda echo and pharah once again 😦
vale cobalt
why does asia have 2 spota for dallas?
glass sleet
What dps he plays even
Flying heroes
rugged quest
What dps he plays even
Played pharah and echo when they were an otp team
hybrid hollow
Wait ksa only played to get them to Dallas
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Flying heroes
Makes sense💀
vale cobalt
why does asia have 2 spota for dallas?
help
glass sleet
Wait ksa only played to get them to Dallas
Yeah ksaa said he’ll help them qualify by playing yesterday but then he’s out
weary scarab
twisted minds is already qualed to dallas btw so dosent matter if they lose
rugged quest
why does asia have 2 spota for dallas?
glass sleet
I knew he’d go mauga
hybrid hollow
why does asia have 2 spota for dallas?
Bc who else in Asia will if China isn't there
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why na 3 spots
Idk lol
rugged quest
eu has 3 na has 3 (pain) asia 2
Its just a money thing
glass sleet
Skai on Lucio
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Korea investing dead
vale cobalt
i see
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Falcons are a saudi org and the rest of the teams live on ramen and ice soup
well i guess wac have decent investment now
since they got picked up by crazy raccoon
glass sleet
twisted looks so lost without ksaa
And admiral
Skai doesn’t play Lucio
HUH? You guys lost a fight against TM?
vale cobalt
thry could at least put up a fight with ksaa even though they dont have adrimal
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Lbbd7 on sig
glass sleet
something to be happy about
Lol
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Bring in yznsa at this point
rugged quest
At least there's no orisa mirror
Dont call that yet
glass sleet
Bring in yznsa at this point
Wdym? He doesn’t play for twisted minds
rugged quest
Wdym? He doesn’t play for twisted minds
He will find a way to minmax owcs
glass sleet
i wish kellan could play at this stage
It sucks kellen and vigilante won’t play until after major
vale cobalt
i wish cloudy could play
glass sleet
i wish cloudy could play
Dude isn’t on a team. He’s just there for jokes
rugged quest
i wish cloudy could play
That would hurt to watch
every team plays orisa
and kevster and kai cant play macro dps
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ence got this
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At this point srpeakcheck should just reunite since none of them get playtime in ence lol
vale cobalt
ITS JOEVER
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where is the beter tank
hybrid hollow
He's a dps player
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also who is new tank
Its dps
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that was on the team before
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also who is new tank
U dont recognize lbbd?
hybrid hollow
what happend to the other one
KSAA said bye bye
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what was his name
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KSAA said bye bye
wtf why
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what happend to the other one
Ksaa dont want to play for some reason
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what was his name
Hes a dps player
vale cobalt
Dude isn’t on a team. He’s just there for jokes
he canr play cuz his vacation ended during stage 2
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U dont recognize lbbd?
i think i do from owcs the mei player
glass sleet
Some mfs in chat are saying “ksaa was their hard carry” dude that’s not it. They’re playing a dmg hero on tank.
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Also adrimnal gone cuz collegiate
vale cobalt
ksaa was carry tho
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he canr play cuz his vacation ended during stage 2
Lets be real he wasnt getting playtime in this meta anyway
Especially now that chase plays monkey for them
glass sleet
he canr play cuz his vacation ended during stage 2
Masaa said he’s not part of the team lol
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ksaa was the 2nd best on their team
glass sleet
ksaa was carry tho
Fuck no he wasn’t
hybrid hollow
Right ksa wasn't the carry it's just that ur tank and main support are like crucial to keeping the team together 💀
vale cobalt
Lets be real he wasnt getting playtime in this meta anyway
I MEANNN... SURE....
glass sleet
TM was just really good together. As a team
hybrid hollow
When you throw in 2 ppl who don't even play the roles ofc they're gonna lose
vale cobalt
Fuck no he wasn’t
ksaa was the reason tm was this good
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you are shit
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change my mind
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i think i do from owcs the mei player
Nah he played bap in owwc
weary scarab
guys twisted dont care about this game they are already qualed, they will just play kellan next stage
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ksaa and quartz were the good parts
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Youbi played mei for saudi
glass sleet
look at them without him
It’s not like saying they got a new tank. That’s a dmg player on tank and flex player on Lucio. What’s this comparison you’re going on with?
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that is what we are saying
vale cobalt
guys twisted dont care about this game they are already qualed, they will just p...
they are?
glass sleet
guys twisted dont care about this game they are already qualed, they will just p...
Kellen will play AFTER Dallas
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that stage is over
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guys twisted dont care about this game they are already qualed, they will just p...
I mean there is still money in this ofc they would want to win
vale cobalt
AHAHHAHAH
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unless they can get points of major
weary scarab
Kellen will play AFTER Dallas
no next stage he will be able
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this stage is over
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I mean support is easier to swap to then tank
hybrid hollow
they are?
For them to miss Dallas ence has to make third and peps has to come second or first which won't happen
glass sleet
if you dont have your tank
If ence played kev on tank and chase on Lucio, they would get rolled too. And that’s not “oh vestola was their carry” bs
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also kellen cant play sig and other flex style champs
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Tank is the hardest role to swap to
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so you still need one
that is why ksaa was better
he was great on flex
and decent on main
vale cobalt
For them to miss Dallas ence has to make third and peps has to come second or fi...
then that guy is delusional for saying thry're already qualified lol
glass sleet
also kellen cant play sig and other flex style champs
They need a great off tank player…maybe ksaa
hybrid hollow
then that guy is delusional for saying thry're already qualified lol
No no bc there's no way ENCE aren't second or first
weary scarab
also kellen cant play sig and other flex style champs
i dont think they are planning to play those comps
in stage 3
vale cobalt
im confused
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i dont think they are planning to play those comps
matters on meta
we dont know what the patch will be after
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IS TM QUALIFIED TO DALLAS OR NOT??
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major
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IS TM QUALIFIED TO DALLAS OR NOT??
not rn
weary scarab
they are
hybrid hollow
peps isn't good enough to push ence to third so yes tm is qualified
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IS TM QUALIFIED TO DALLAS OR NOT??
If ence 2and or first
glass sleet
Ence isn’t satisfied wanting their revenge when TM are playing off roles everywhere
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i dont think they are planning to play those comps
Twisted minds is very reliant on macro rush comps
glass sleet
Guys, this is the only time you’ll see orisa on twisted pay attention
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And ksaa is certainly better than kellan on ram and sigma
weary scarab
Twisted minds is very reliant on macro rush comps
i think they will be good on the orisa comps
rugged quest
losing him hurts them for sure
hybrid hollow
i think they will be good on the orisa comps
If we're still on orisa at dallas
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i think they will be good on the orisa comps
I guess but dallas is still month away
we could have whatever meta then
vale cobalt
dallas is in 1 month
hybrid hollow
At least they're trying
glass sleet
losing him hurts them for sure
And it’s not like they had another tank to swap in who understood the team synergy. They literally had one tank and he’s not playing
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Ram counters the orisa comp
hybrid hollow
Double flex is way better than forcing skai on lucio
glass sleet
Why the fuk is masaa on brig
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it will be midseason patch
Orisa is dominant in ladder and pro play she will get nerfed if devs arent totally brainrotten
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Maybe dive buff
hybrid hollow
Why the fuk is masaa on brig
Bc a lot of teams think brig bap is better on midtown
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Why the fuk is masaa on brig
he is good at it
glass sleet
he is good at it
Not a comp for it
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Tm got a tic lol
rugged quest
Not a comp for it
Bap brig was pretty popular in kr
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you dont need engage
glass sleet
Omg they’re just so depressed
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this is poke
rugged quest
but no one in eu rly plays it
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not rush
glass sleet
Bap brig was pretty popular in kr
But that’s Korea. They wanna play brig
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no need for a Lucio
hybrid hollow
Every team has ran brig bap on this map
tidal marsh
why isnt KSAA Playing tank??
hybrid hollow
why isnt KSAA Playing tank??
He's not playing at all until further notice
We don't know why or when he'll come back
glass sleet
why isnt KSAA Playing tank??
He’s no longer playing so get use to watching lbbd7 on tank
tidal marsh
damn
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Bro how
glass sleet
Did skai even get any scrim time with the team? He never played any officials
hybrid hollow
Probably not
glass sleet
So even tho he’s on his role, he doesn’t have any scrim time with the team
paper totem
So
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The orisa is best option for tm it seems
paper totem
Is this quartz attempting to carry dead weight again?
tidal marsh
isnt skai moving over to ence?
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Did skai even get any scrim time with the team? He never played any officials
he was a sub
hybrid hollow
We don't know
weary scarab
Is this quartz attempting to carry dead weight again?
why are yall acting like youbi hasnt been puttin in work since wc
glass sleet
he was a sub
He was a sub but did he get any play time at all?
glass sleet
so he would have got some scrims
They played Lucio every time
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teams still scrim with them
hybrid hollow
why are yall acting like youbi hasnt been puttin in work since wc
That's what I'm saying
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Youbi is like the leader of tm or something
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cause you cant just have the sub in and expect it to work
hybrid hollow
Quartz is him but youbi has been there on flex dps consistently
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with no practice
glass sleet
teams still scrim with them
They haven’t gotten much scrims in since stage two btw
paper totem
why are yall acting like youbi hasnt been puttin in work since wc
Who?
glass sleet
still they will practice together
Dude that’s not even near being enough
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Dude that’s not even near being enough
better than nothing
glass sleet
better than nothing
It’s basically nothing let’s be honest
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look what the ddos acts did for t1 in the lck
even practice in comp is some practice on heros
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Wide queues broke stacking and duoing
this season started like 2 weeks ago
so they have gotten some
but not a lot
cause this game is made by a small indie company
glass sleet
Dude this is so painful to watch
hybrid hollow
Sub me in coach 🗣️
glass sleet
Going from stage 1 winners to internal issues screwing them up
glass sleet
210?
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250 first stage
paper totem
It always shocks me how worlds apart ladder and OWCS are. Quartz hard Carries and dominates champ lobbies but Kai is diffing him. Maybe just bc he doesn’t play vs Koreans
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In stage 1
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so they need to get to lower bracket finals
glass sleet
It always shocks me how worlds apart ladder and OWCS are. Quartz hard Carries an...
Kai isn’t Korean
hybrid hollow
It always shocks me how worlds apart ladder and OWCS are. Quartz hard Carries an...
Quartz literally boot camped with Koreans lol
Kai is diffing him bc he doesn't have an actual tank
paper totem
Quartz literally boot camped with Koreans lol
Is his team holding him back
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It always shocks me how worlds apart ladder and OWCS are. Quartz hard Carries an...
He is not getting diffed lol
glass sleet
It always shocks me how worlds apart ladder and OWCS are. Quartz hard Carries an...
Quartz would diff Kai if twisted minds didn’t have problems. It’s not fair to say he’s not good cuz their tank is a damage player
weary scarab
Is his team holding him back
i dont think you realise that they have a dps on tank and a player who havent played with twisted in a year on support
paper totem
Why didn’t Kai try to get on a Korean team or is he only allowed in EU teams
glass sleet
Is his team holding him back
Quartz diffed shy who was diffing Koreans
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chaos
tidal marsh
i can't lie why does this game seem so calm??
glass sleet
Why didn’t Kai try to get on a Korean team or is he only allowed in EU teams
He’s not good enough
hybrid hollow
Why didn’t Kai try to get on a Korean team or is he only allowed in EU teams
Bc there's better players than him all throughout korea
tidal marsh
like maybe it's the commentary but it's so calm
paper totem
Bc there's better players than him all throughout korea
That’s my point overall
hybrid hollow
Why would they pick him up
paper totem
Koreans diff quartz
glass sleet
Why is ence sweating lol
paper totem
Proper lip stalker
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Kai is mid please stop
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massa is the best for ult tracking
glass sleet
Proper lip stalker
Quartz
hybrid hollow
Koreans diff quartz
We know this though
glass sleet
massa is the best for ult tracking
Kellex literally calling the exact number of ult charge they had
hybrid hollow
And quartz is definitely up there
glass sleet
Hot take, wac would still be as good with quartz on the team instead of lip
Fight me
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Kellex literally calling the exact number of ult charge they had
where is kellex in this
hybrid hollow
Comparing almost anyone to lip and proper is just not fair
vale cobalt
THE BOOOP
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you are smoking
glass sleet
where is kellex in this
I meant when they won 4-1 against them
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no team comms
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Hot take, wac would still be as good with quartz on the team instead of lip
Lip can play tracer
vale cobalt
DA BOOOOOOP
glass sleet
Lip can play tracer
Not very well
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I meant when they won 4-1 against them
massa is better causes he has done it a lot more
wac would lose with quartz
hybrid hollow
Hot take, wac would still be as good with quartz on the team instead of lip
Nah bc lip being able to play tracer during the doom meta is why they were still good
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bad comms
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Not very well
Wym its good tracer but not top tier
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no cords
vale cobalt
#EZ4ENCE
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that is why mixed teams have problems at the start
hybrid hollow
Not very well
I mean it's not stalker proper or heesang but it's definitely good
paper totem
Proper> lip
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any game
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I mean it's not stalker proper or heesang but it's definitely good
heesang out of the shock system is unleashed
crusty was holding a lot of people back
vindam
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Proper> lip
Agrre
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so many people were fucked cause of crusty
hybrid hollow
max and junbin had their names dragged bc that system
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arrge>proper
Fr
hybrid hollow
imagine ppl calling you bad when your coach doesn't let you play the heros you're good at
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prove me wrong
glass sleet
I mean it's not stalker proper or heesang but it's definitely good
No tbh not even. His team needs to hard carry when he’s on tracer
weary scarab
arrge the guy with 8000 hours on hanzo stuck in low masters 😂
vale cobalt
arrge is VERY bad
hybrid hollow
No tbh not even. His team needs to hard carry when he’s on tracer
I don't think they had to hard carry heesang just performed out his mind
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No tbh not even. His team needs to hard carry when he’s on tracer
Nah lip tracer is good bro
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ence are in the major
stray quarry
who playin rn
hybrid hollow
Wait was the one upset that happened during the lip tracer?
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if they win
glass sleet
Lol Youbi on tank
hybrid hollow
oh god theyre done
paper totem
Is ENCE good right. They have good lineup
glass sleet
Nah lip tracer is good bro
It’s not
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LOL
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wtf
stray quarry
twisted minds?
glass sleet
I promise it’s not
weary scarab
wait this is gonna be fun lmao
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next game
stray quarry
wait no just ence
weary scarab
FINALLY LBDD7 ON DPS
paper totem
Falacons and WAC> ENCE but by how much
glass sleet
I don't think they had to hard carry heesang just performed out his mind
Sorry but his tracer isn’t good enough
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I think they going pharah
glass sleet
I think they going pharah
With what player? They don’t play mercy
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Or echo
weary scarab
LBDD7 ECHO
hybrid hollow
Falacons and WAC> ENCE but by how much
I don't even think ENCE are better than ssg
Mainly bc the backline
they're old
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I mean youbi is smarter then Lbbd7
glass sleet
Oh brother flex support on Lucio again
weary scarab
wait oh no
hybrid hollow
Lbbd is not having a good day
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Bro lbbd
weary scarab
wheres the nutella mercy 😦
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also when they build this team why did they not have 2 tanks like you have a lot of money
paper totem
they're old
Wym by old
weak frost
"please no off-rolers this game"
my teammates:
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like at that start so many teams got one
hybrid hollow
Wym by old
Crimzo and masaa are not them anymore
I think ENCE only beats out ssg at tank I do think vestola is better than hadi
hybrid hollow
Everyone else is just better or equal
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EMOTE
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you cant call him bad
vale cobalt
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
paper totem
Crimzo and masaa are not them anymore
Are there even any original owl players in the comp scene anymore
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emote
glass sleet
Dude some mf on chat is telling me that ksaa was the carry cuz an echo on tank wasn’t playing as well
💀
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I think ENCE only beats out ssg at tank I do think vestola is better than hadi
To be fair ye
hybrid hollow
Are there even any original owl players in the comp scene anymore
Yes all the good teams are majority owl players
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Are there even any original owl players in the comp scene anymore
massa
paper totem
I’m talking early owl
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violet
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I’m talking early owl
from apex days
vale cobalt
Dude some mf on chat is telling me that ksaa was the carry cuz an echo on tank w...
KSAA WAS THE BACKBONE OF THE TEAM ALL ALONG
hybrid hollow
Yes Danteh is literally top 3 in na rn
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there is some as coachs
glass sleet
KSAA WAS THE BACKBONE OF THE TEAM ALL ALONG
The tank? No shit! Lol
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not much more
paper totem
from apex days
Miro Winston days
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The tank? No shit! Lol
you just said he wasnt before
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I think youbi and ksaa were the leaders
vale cobalt
ikr
hybrid hollow
Nah all the apex players are definitely done
vale cobalt
bro doesnt knoq qhat he said
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Nah all the apex players are definitely done
8 years
hybrid hollow
Profit retiring was the end of an era
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Danteh was one of earliest owl players still in comp
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to 9 years
paper totem
Kinda sad
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of play
paper totem
Danteh my hero
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on this shit game with low money
hybrid hollow
I'll be tired too man
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yeah they would be
glass sleet
you just said he wasnt before
I’m saying he wasn’t the carry. He wasn’t the reason they were winning. TM was really good as a whole. Everyone played their part very well. But putting an echo player on tank and think they’d be as good is just bs and very stupid
vale cobalt
hw was the reason
glass sleet
I think youbi and ksaa were the leaders
Youbi was the IGL
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Youbi was the IGL
Dude didnt quartz play echo yesterday
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i feel if overwatch was in the asia games we would have kept a lot more older players
glass sleet
Dude didnt quartz play echo yesterday
He did for a round?
vale cobalt
yuu i dont think you know the value of a tank
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cause they dont have to serve if they win
and we know they would
like we would still have fearless
glass sleet
yuu i dont think you know the value of a tank
I don’t think you understand the argument
vale cobalt
tank = leader, carry, shotcaller everything
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void
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He did for a round?
Quartz played better then lbbd7 on echo lol
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like imagine
hybrid hollow
I miss fits and void man
vale cobalt
without a leader they look so lost
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would murder
glass sleet
tank = leader, carry, shotcaller everything
Ksaa himself said that Youbi is the leader. Also tanks aren’t always the leaders. Most of the time it’s the Lucio talking to the team
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tank = leader, carry, shotcaller everything
Ye the tank desides engagements
glass sleet
Ggs
vale cobalt
ik but yuu is just refusing to believe ksaa was the reason they were this succesful
glass sleet
So depressing
glass sleet
ik but yuu is just refusing to believe ksaa was the reason they were this succes...
No I refuse to believe he was the reason. It was the team as a whole
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Ksaa was a important piece
glass sleet
Ksaa was a important piece
Ofc he was cuz he was the only tank.
vale cobalt
No I refuse to believe he was the reason. It was the team as a whole
after this game please take a step back and consider
without a leader like ksaa ur done
hybrid hollow
I think yuu is saying that ksaa was maybe the most important piece but it wasn't like ksaa was deadlifting this far alone
vale cobalt
his shoes are hard to fill
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CHOISEJWAN SUCKS
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CHOISEJWAN SUCKS
ok
glass sleet
without a leader like ksaa ur done
My brother, I just told you he’s not the leader. He never makes the calls. It’s Youbi. It’s always been Youbi.
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CHOISEJWAN SUCKS
nah
vale cobalt
youbi was quiet asf wdym
glass sleet
his shoes are hard to fill
Even tho he’s not the leader, he still understood how to play the role. You can’t expect an echo player to fit his shoes
vale cobalt
whole team was dwd
hybrid hollow
Everyone was quiet they have 0 spirit
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closer to b
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withoit a real tank
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he is low a teir
Bro could not carey against spg
glass sleet
youbi was quiet asf wdym
You can’t use this game as an example Wtf.
vale cobalt
Everyone was quiet they have 0 spirit
its ok youbi is leading tem
everyone so energatic
hybrid hollow
You can’t use this game as an example Wtf.
I agree this team probably haven't cared after yesterday
Bc why would they after losing two integral pieces and you won't get the replacements until dallas
glass sleet
I agree this team probably haven't cared after yesterday
People just don’t understand how handicapped they were and not cuz ksaa was the leader, he wasn’t.
hybrid hollow
I think Kellan can fill his shoes if the meta changes by time he plays
vale cobalt
You can’t use this game as an example Wtf.
why?
glass sleet
I agree this team probably haven't cared after yesterday
People watching this game and think that’s TM. Not understanding two players are missing and a couple are playing off role.
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Genesis lost to spg
you said spg i was like Spacestation Gaming
vale cobalt
ur playing a very improtant game still being so quiet and all
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that is why i was like that is not asia
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you said spg i was like Spacestation Gaming
Oh lol
glass sleet
No I’m done you’re clueless
vale cobalt
😭
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ur playing a very improtant game still being so quiet and all
The game is only important if they actually had a real team
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it's 2
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The game is only important if they actually had a real team
I’m convinced Ana is just trolling cuz they hate tm
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They also lost adrimnal
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i dont think kellan would save them
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Losing ur main supp is really bad
weary scarab
i dont think kellan would save them
definetely would
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Losing your ONLY tank and expect them to play as good is beyond stupid I’m sorry
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definetely would
He would not its a odd he cant solo tank
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sad
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Right lbbd has never scrimmed on that role ever in his life
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Unless tm becomes a dive team
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Unless tm becomes a dive team
CHINA TIME
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Unless tm becomes a dive team
They can
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They just need the meta and tank for it
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They just need the meta and tank for it
fuck meta
look what spark does
they need no meta
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they run it
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It's possible I won't deny it
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But I feel like kellan does not have the talent
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But it's like can they adapt Kellan into the team well enough for it
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kellan is a budget tank
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He has to pull a guxue
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London can do it bc that core has been playing these off meta systems together for a while
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guxue god
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London can do it bc that core has been playing these off meta systems together f...
Hadi has gotten way better on monekey
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Hadi has gotten way better on monekey
he will get better over time as well
but they are more of a deathball rush brawl team
with some dives
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I think to genuinely be a team that plays ur own meta you need the right players around each other who understand the goal of the team
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he will get better over time as well
U mean kellan?
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Ye
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Like spark and London/ssg works bc ur going into these teams knowing at the very least these players will excel on these heros better than most
Like with Guxue there's a safety net that at the very least almost nobody will match his Winston so playing around it can work
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if we get a midseaon patch where rein is meta
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Same with hadi playing rush
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cause you know london will run it
Falcons will be scared then
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Idk if Kellan has that guarantee as those two
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Falcons will be scared then
smurf rein is questionable
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Kellen and vigilante won’t even play lan
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i fear for teams
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Theyre not doing anything on lan with dive meta be serious
I mean they can as in it's possible if Kellan breaks all expectations
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So why even bother talking about it
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Kellen and vigilante won’t even play lan
Oh nvm
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smurf rein is questionable
Can junbin and max even play rein
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https://tenor.com/view/lhcloudy-gladiators-sexy-kloodi-determined-gif-16265983
he cant play
so sad
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Bring back muma rein
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i miss piggy rein
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super come back
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Mag rein
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I mean they can as in it's possible if Kellan breaks all expectations
Dude he got gapped in korea for a month straight
hes cool on monkey by emea standards
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Dude he got gapped in korea for a month straight
Let me have sum hope in the guy
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but not nearly enough on lan
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i miss piggy rein
Didn’t piggy play with Danteh
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maybe he's been in intense training
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The only team that can compete in rein meta is toronto
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hes cool on monkey by emea standards
hes prob equal to cloudy's monke
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Didn’t piggy play with Danteh
he did
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Shy guys vs wholesome men. Who wins?
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checkmate will fuck them
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Checkmate used to play rein right?
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Fr
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Checkmate used to play rein right?
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gm master level
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I wouldn't be shocked if he plays it again during a rein meta but I think he's better on flex dps
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Wait is space on an OWCS team
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Wait is space on an OWCS team
No he's a just a streamer guy now
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I wouldn't be shocked if he plays it again during a rein meta but I think he's b...
@uncut drum Well this guy seems to really think he would play
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shouldve tagged him
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<@702251767659888700> Well this guy seems to really think he would play
I mean not seriously
But fuck it
Put him on it
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if it is a shit team
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We've seen worse
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No he's a just a streamer guy now
He def could join OWCS and do decently. Wouldn’t win anything but still
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when they played bad teams
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He def could join OWCS and do decently. Wouldn’t win anything but still
He could be solid in NA idk Abt internationally though
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I just get sad thinking back to how many good players we have lost from 2016-2018 era
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PAL vs supershy might be good match
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Gaming esports is pretty volatile. Reaction time can’t compete when ur older
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I just get sad thinking back to how many good players we have lost from 2016-201...
we lot player in apex as well
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And by old I mean late 20s lol
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good ones
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Gaming esports is pretty volatile. Reaction time can’t compete when ur older
Not even just that not every old player can change with the game
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Ryuejong
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all old teams
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Jjonak had to serve and didn't come back to ow after right?
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bring back memories
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Jjonak had to serve and didn't come back to ow after right?
he was going to
in 2022
but health issues
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Seeing seeker call super and space old hurts me internally
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he was going to play with profit and smurf
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ngl when viol2t hangs it's up its actually over
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Seeing seeker call super and space old hurts me internally
super is not even that old
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super is not even that old
My point
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super is not even that old
But he feels that old
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we have players like void who are nearly 30
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When I get I’m just gonna play low aim heroes
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Did ence win against TM?
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Ofc they did
I genuinely think if we got a rein meta and super was put on an actual team and genuinely scrimmed for it he'll still be a top 5 tank in na
Then again na is lacking at the tank role
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bruh i just realised i have watched this game esports for 8 years
from apex season 1
i was 15 back then
i am old
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Almost half of my life has genuinely been spent playing or watching overwatch
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I genuinely think if we got a rein meta and super was put on an actual team and ...
I mean NA has like 2 t1 lvl tanks
He could do it
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I mean NA has like 2 t1 lvl tanks
Are there even two
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Or if you count imports 3
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Oh hawk n danteh assume
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yeah thats who i thought of
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Yup that's pretty much it
I don't think here's a single na owl tank playing besides those two rn
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not shocked
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and why do i miss all the upsets
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3-0 is insane though
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seems to be irl stuff going on
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team likely to disband
how come
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seems to be irl stuff going on
ohhh word
any idea what it may be?
i saw youbi was on tank
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any idea what it may be?
not too sure
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where's ksaa?
wicked elk
just heard there’s drama with some players
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isnt youbi a flex dps
wicked elk
where's ksaa?
college stuff i think?
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i was looking forward to seeing them
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It’s finals season
true, i wasnt aware he was still studying atm
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ENCE 3-0'D TWISTED MINDS?
No ksaa or admiral
They had a tank offroling and had to either play doubleflex or have an offrole main support
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they had so much potential, what a shame
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i think quartz will find a new team
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out of everyone tho, youbi on tank?
he just recently caught up to his team on dps afaik
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i think quartz will find a new team
he genuinely carries them, but i was told he prefers to stay with ksa teams or something
i unironically can see him with bigger teams tho
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out of everyone tho, youbi on tank?
They tried lbbd it didn't work
They literally had nobody to fill the role
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They tried lbbd it didn't work
its so over isnt it
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And they were forced to run double flex bc skai can't play Lucio
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its so over isnt it
Yup
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he genuinely carries them, but i was told he prefers to stay with ksa teams or s...
I don’t think he’s a good fit for space station because they have sparkr already
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Who ever plays tm at Dallas gets a free round
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what’s a good eu team lacking a powerful main hitscan rn
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Unless they allow them to bring kellan and kellex in early as a one time exception
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what’s a good eu team lacking a powerful main hitscan rn
I think quartz is better than Kai but the synergy of kev and Kai beats tht out
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what’s a good eu team lacking a powerful main hitscan rn
If roc is still wants to invest, them i guess
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I think quartz is better than Kai but the synergy of kev and Kai beats tht out
- kevster wants to play with kai
they were a package deal in the first place
no kai = no kevster
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what’s a good eu team lacking a powerful main hitscan rn
cant think of one off the top of my head
and in NA i can only see flex dps diffs (tracer gaps, mostly)
sad because he's genuinely my favourite player from the ksa team roster
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Quartz and youbi might just switch regions
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quartz will do well in NA
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Or they'll stick it out till next stage
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quartz will do well in NA
he would automatically be top 3 hitscan
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he would automatically be top 3 hitscan
Top 1 there isn't a non import hitscan better than quartz in na
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Top 1 there isn't a non import hitscan better than quartz in na
merit?
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Non import
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no he's korean
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Maybe he is
I feel like if he didn't count as import they would've picked up checkmate tho
Bc why not
Literally just rebuild Florida -1
Especially now since hes just sitting on a empty roster
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I feel like if he didn't count as import they would've picked up checkmate tho
checkmate is a flex right
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Yeah
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Definitely cheaper but they have the money
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Maybe they didn’t see the need
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I think chorong was gonna play in Korea anyway
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to cash out on checkmate
when they have the best roster na already
and are guaranteed to finish second or third
in finals
I don’t think toronto having checkmate lets them clear falcons or racoon
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According to liquidpedia merit nationality is korean
If that's accurate then he does count as an import
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According to liquidpedia merit nationality is korean
so our best non import hitscan is seeker💀
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Yep
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He’s barely a top 10 sojourn
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Seeker chopper and PGE I guess
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maybe even t15
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na is cooked 💀
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yeah quartz would smurf here
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NA is sad bc it's like we'll either have 1 or 2 good players on a role and every else is shit on just none on that role at all
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Genuinely
Bro gets diffed against every other solid hitscan in the region but they're only like 5 hitscans in the region anyways 💀
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Bro I'm scared tr33 is gonna be a val player he already plays it a lot
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Bro I'm scared tr33 is gonna be a val player he already plays it a lot
i wouldnt be surprised
val has more money
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Val just snatched all our players each year
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even though competitive val is just worse to watch
i tried watching vct
it’s pretty boring
It does have cool pop off moments though
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jesus christ, so many spark skins!!!!
wicked elk
the issue with competitive ow is it’s not enjoyable to watch unless you understand the game a lot
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Top 3 color ways
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I don’t think toronto having checkmate lets them clear falcons or racoon
They would be able to win
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Valorant can be watched by anyone
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Val as a game is boring to me
Same
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the issue with competitive ow is it’s not enjoyable to watch unless you understa...
Only role that kinda allowed entry level understanding was dps bc "click heads and get kills" but then goats happened
I'll always say this, owl failed bc they tried franchising a niche within a niche
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Valorant can be watched by anyone
Valorant can put me to sleep
I understand what’s going on but damn it’s boring af
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But born in america
nope
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Bruh that was the world's longest team fight
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That was a good map
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Gg that was kinda rough
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Okay I’m back
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Tm gonna lose to peps aswell tbh
Yeah peps that almost beat ence would probably win
Fury is a shit name
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Yeah peps that almost beat ence would probably win
Quartz needs to hard carry if they gonna win
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Lol vigilante is playing Lucio rn. I bet he’s thinking “shit this tm situation is messed up, I should probably learn Lucio huh lol”
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Quartz needs to hard carry if they gonna win
Mhm I guess so.
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Mhm I guess so.
They gonna have adrimnal no?
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They gonna have adrimnal no?
Probably. He only missed today cuz he had a colligate game
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The aura isn't enough for the sog 💔
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Is there a point watching it even
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Yeah I like the majority of the players so ofc imma watch
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I’m almost done with my 12 hours
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Ofc Toronto 3-0s but who knows maybe funny moments
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Also just give me toronto vs falcons
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I want Toronto vs ftg first
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I want Toronto vs ftg first
They will role ftg
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I need to see how they play against a team like ftg to know how they'll handle wac or falcons
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Roll
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I want Toronto vs ftg first
Nah TD v CR immediately
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Even if they are not fully Korean
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I mainly wanna see Vega actually perform against real main supports and Lenny perform against real flex dps
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Rupal someone merit core is way to good
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I'm not worried Abt the Florida boys
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Toronto might get third
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ik Lenny was good in owl but the stakes are different
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They’re playing BALL?
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Like I do believe they'll beat a team like ftg but I wanna see how it plays out to know if they can genuinely hang with racoons or falcons
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They’re playing BALL?
I mean Infekted started as a ball player and someone has been playing the ball since the patch
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Someone can play every tank
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The top two teams are just animal names
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also I told you defiant were loving the ana zen in scrims
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Does slay play Ana?
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I don't think this is just a throw pick they genuinely believe in that comp
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I mainly wanna see Vega actually perform against real main supports and Lenny pe...
Ngl support role matters less this meta aslong as vega has good beat timing should be fine
Sugarfree is the only problem imo
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I don't think so
Dallas will be Vegas first real high level experience
Lenny played against good players in owl
Nerves and mental matter
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Ngl support role matters less this meta aslong as vega has good beat timing shou...
Plus one ajax can make or break a map
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Plus one ajax can make or break a map
Lucio players love to ajax
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Getting caught out matters too if he doesn't position properly and dies with beat he just hoes his team if it's a crucial fight
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Lucio players love to ajax
I do I gotta admit
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88 ELIMS??
Jesus
88 to 10 is crazy
Pge gotta tap in to tht unused power or something
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Someone just throwing for fun
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I didn’t know “any/all” were real pronouns
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Have m80 and torronto played each other stage 2
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Rak better pull out the weaver
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Have m80 and torronto played each other stage 2
Maybe in the swiss stage
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Getting caught out matters too if he doesn't position properly and dies with bea...
I mean to be fair remember the timeless game
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Not in groups tho
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I mean to be fair remember the timeless game
Which timeless game they've played a lot of overwatch
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The 3-2
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Ye
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Ngl I don't remember how Vega played there
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Same
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I also don't even remember the name of timeless main supp
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Weaver
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tree wins the fight trust me
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You’re dead as hell
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W comms
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I also don't even remember the name of timeless main supp
You don’t know cjay?
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Ohhh
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How
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No I know him I literally just forgot
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If timeless doesn't disband they need a better hitscan tbh and a backup flex dps if tracer isn't meta anymore
Are timeless an official org ?
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Damn merit is so good
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If timeless doesn't disband they need a better hitscan tbh and a backup flex dps...
They’ll drop the whole team? Damn lol
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Are timeless an official org ?
Dont think so
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Omg they couldn’t full hold?
Omg they full held
This game is so boring imma play ow till m80
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This like gm vs diamond players
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He should’ve swapped rein after seeing mauga
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Sus
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At least the match will be fast
The other two matches will be competitive tho
LG and m80 and fmcl vs sog I believe
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LG is the danteh team rigth
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Yeah
Maryville
Luminosity just signed the whole team
Sog would need m80 to win and hope they can beat LG to make dallas
Honestly
It's possible
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How many circuit points sog got
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Is pge actually good or is he meme
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Would either of these teams be able to hold their own vs top teams
Someone is really good tank right
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Is pge actually good or is he meme
No he's good in na
But he just has a meme personality plus if this was owl he'll be a rookie
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Would either of these teams be able to hold their own vs top teams
Toronto yeah
They have the most valuable tank in the world and merit is a top 5 hitscan in the world
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They have the most valuable tank in the world and merit is a top 5 hitscan in th...
Someone> Hanbin?
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Someone> Hanbin?
Not on hanbins preferred heros but someone is more valuable bc he can play everything at that top level
Hanbin is just an off tank player
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So if there was a situation where you need a off tank for one point and a main tank for another someone is better than hanbin
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I feel like Smurf is not as good
I think Smurf is the best main tank in owcs rn
It would've been fearless for me but he's obv not playing
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Someone best tank player
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Did Winston beat orisa or did someone beat Infekted
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Did Winston beat orisa or did someone beat Infekted
It was just a talent gap
Although monkey is better than orisa in plenty of maps anyway
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The lamp was nice but idk how I feel Abt tht uv window
Idk if the window was scuffed or if LG were just ready it
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I’m back
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hawk is hitting the griddy HARD xdd
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Does this punch the ticket to Dallas for m80?
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FUCKKKKKK
WHYYYYYY
Wait reinforce is cooking
After the main event Toronto should just fly to Korea until dallas
at least get the scrims in before the event
Hawk had to set the record straight
"most DPS players in this region are pretty bad"
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is this valorant music?
wicked elk
what would be the best non import american team?
i guess it would be hawk, seeker, sugarfree, rupal and vega
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i guess it would be hawk, seeker, sugarfree, rupal and vega
Yup
If you wanted to go more than five ppl you probably add pge Infekted and rokit
wicked elk
usa world cup was a meme
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Sog ran over these guys in groups
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predicting 3-1 for fmcl
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Hi Does the M80 qualify for the OWCS MAJOR?
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Okay thanks
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