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Yes! I’ve been saying this since the start
bro has more resources than the country of china
Any more matches?
?
they played rlly well
???
Yes?
Who playing?
Idk lol
how is proper overrated
Bruh
I didn’t check the schedule
he was Mvp last year flashops too
Sin and genesis
ppl be coming in here and be saying the stupidest shit
and seaonal mvp 2022
sym tp health buff is actually insane. You can’t break it before people take it anymore
Time to go to bed
it’s so dumb
He was actually a regular
Stupid buffs
He is properly rated
Ha
proper stole my lunch money

proper with help
they did not have to show the
Who tf is quest
last clip of him missing the electric slill
THE GOAT
skill
Again WHO
he missed like 3 that map lol
WHERE UNKNOWN
:p
He doesn’t do translations anymore
Rip
even worse
Retired after a week in owcs
At least I don’t remember him translating this owcs
nah
He’s a commentator
I stg I heard him translate
u recruit
be pretty
can you speak korean
only thing he was translating was the crowds sign
…no
ggs
Ggs
Do I apply to a “host” kinda position?
be attractive
Dude that’s so wac
and charismatic
damn
damn
✅
✅
Not guranted
well seee
true actually
ftg clears everyone in NA low diff besides defiant
Ftg threw in match
they looking
KNEW IT
weak
I mean…duh?
but not that weak
wac falcons and defiant clear everyone
and i’m putting ftg top 4
real
Dont forget twisted minds
What about m80 and London spitfire
timeless or m80 who wins
worse than all of those four
ence is also better than ssg and m80
Nah Koreans aren’t THAT better on rush
Rip
Eu and NA COULD WIN
Pelican and specta
smh
tbh m80 is better
pelican is so fucking cooked
that’s copium
No
They just started so m80 prob getting better over time
Its possible
although m80 lost, they had like 2days of team practice cus s9mm got banned and had to sub in spectra and pelican
r they still running hydron
No way a non KR team wins an S tier tournament
But gator as coach
has echo beat the sym mauga yet
also timeless won m8 by like an inch
Which tbh sounds like an upgrade
….
m80 is better
totally
m80 is better when they bench hydron and keep him there
for some reason
dog shit player
Y-yes
yea
okay good
Hydron is mid
Same
if only pelican and spectra joined earlier than 2 days before match
he’s not
theyd dominate
Seeker better
timeless
best arm wrestler na
I havent bothered to rly watch na
Yup
kr and eu only
same
Like bro got dominated by lip 0-5
i only watched kr
Lol maybe spend more time on the game practicing than the gym
And people still consider him better then seeker
seeker pelican duo would go so hard
Who to watch outside of Toronto you know?
SAVE SEEKER
Yes
he never gets on good teams
Where even is seeker
lage
WD40
is eu fun?
seeker is like the most held back player in pro history
should i watch owcs eu
His team was also cooked
Rip seeker
seeker plays with 500 pounds on his back at all times
how is ex ov and vestola doing
Next weekend is playoffs so it could be fun
It was a last minute roster
but i dont think you care about na or eu ow
How did Hydron even get a team thin
so its up to you
Nah they were form just looking for a org
i only care about WAC but i could watch some vestola
They added pelican tho
Mcgravy was the coach for m80 but last minute signed WD40?
Why vestola?
As far as ik you can coach many teams
Um…there’s like 3-4 top teams? Twisted spray check, ex ob, and space station
so did sombra just disappear i swear she was good in mauga meta lol
I know there a coach that like coaching 3 teams
roc is good too
And he a asshole apparently
No he’s not on m80 anymore I believe. They fuked him over last minute
is it worth even watching
Oh and roc for sure mb
space station is a fun team
whats their rosters
Next weekend is playoffs so the games should be solid
Who is winning smurf or the fake goat
Lol twisted played ONE game since EU started. I mean two but one was off camera
Oh ya they dropped the whole roster because a Twitter person decided to sabotage
London spitfire almost
I still believe Nico should get punished. What he did was most likely illegal
Ya it was more then him apparently tho
Spitfire plus funnyastro
tbh bubo looks strong
Like a lot of French players were doing it
they got world cup rosters from finland and uk
So next weekend in EU is almost all owl caliber teams
Seicoe is actually a really good player. I believe he skips a few games cuz he has military duties so the fact he doesn’t play much ow atm and still does so well is insane
Twisted minds still the favored I think
This meta is such a wildcard
its hard to power rank
before we see them play
what does ksaa play besides sigma well
queen
Space station coach says vestola needs to practice his ram cuz it’s not as good as KSAA
thats it prob
Offtanks generally
maybe dva
so they are cooked
Quartz soj
sig, dva, hog
yea
Oh for sure you never know
they do have quartz sojourn tho
everyone in owcs korea
were
before patches
ksaa didnt really stand out in owwc tbh
True but kai/sauna soj isnt half bad either and then you have kevster
its tough to say
Isn’t quartz arguably a top 3 soj
Twisted minds boot camped in Korea
no
Lol the " goat " lost
He played ONE game on broadcast
hence my message
What you smoking
I’d say so
sheesh
Possible
and also his ram is prob best eu
He is not top 3
nahhh
Top 5 maybe
who’s top 3
at least in the world
proper
he is top 5 prob
Spitefire coach believes so
You have people like sky proper merit
but not top3
Lip
are there worldwide standardised power rankings anywhere?
Lip as well
Top 3 for sure. Top1 in EU
Quartz always looks impressive but we havent seen him against much korean talent
He is not you know it is true
yeah he’s just been stomping eu
world
I believe he is. I’ve never seen him play bad. He’s always farming.
Top 3 world wide is not true
seeker is at least a top 10 sojourn
You guys would pick proper lip shy?
Winning one thing does not make him the best
ofc
Easily
But you know like in sports, youll have to prove it on the highest level before people believe youre the best
which isnt bad for being NA
He’s been winning for years. But yeah it’s not against owl players outside of third spot owl team
Hes like a top prospect that hasnt totally proven himself against the best
exactlt
thats why he aint top3
top5 i can agree tho
But I think he does have the skill to be
yall talk about proper with help but haven’t heard about seeker with help
imagine seeker on defiant
god i wish
Yeah
You have people like shy who kill in soj people like merit who can just play her so well
what're we thinking for scores gn vs spg?
Quartz has potentiella to be top 3
Quartz is better soj than merit
2-3
I'm thinking 1-3
The fit isnt as good
You think he is better than merit
they have merit
A tie between them imo
and sugarfree is the best flex dps in na
I agree he needs to play more against top top owl players but I do believe he has it.
yeah it’s bad overlap
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Lip stopping proper
soj
Glad you’re enjoying yourself

he’s gonna struggle in this meta i think
does he even play sym
or sombra
Who would he play? Reaper, sym, Sombra?
Sym meta
Not his best
yea
Time for the goat sparkr to play symn
Pretty much no one just plays sym
This will be great
exactly
but if you are good enough you can learn the sym macro pretty fast
Don't say that about sparkr
and coordinated enough
i mean sym isn’t very hard
Do you remember his sym
Youbi
just rotate
Sparkr
(pretty much)
sym tp might just be a top 3 dps ability now
you can’t break before rotate anymore
that’s nuts
Yes
TOO MUCH HP
yes
No rein sadly
I mean it’s EU
i’m hyped
They all play rush
Didn’t Hadi play rein in push?
hadi has been on the winston grind lately
I am sure he won’t anymore but at least he got one map in
You can't play rein
That was last patch
Yeah I saw
Brawl winton
imagine if owcs had, owcs aus and owcs china,
and winner team of each region plays for the grand grand final region vs region winners
Not shit but like b
And owcs sa
Unless they hotfix mauga next thursday which everyone is calling me crazy for
No one thinks it’ll happen
I hate this meta
How could the devs buff a hero like that
south asia?
Wtf they smoking
South American
Its eu winston so pretty much shit tier cuz you gotta lower the standards a bit
brazil is famous for esports too
I feel like next year we see this stuff
True
Really?
revert sym tp buff, nerf overhealth gain on mauga to 25 hp and make emp cost 8% more
They have their own ow tournament?
no
not reeally
You don't much eSports do you
they dont have ow scene
Oh they don’t play ow
but their esports
but they have been solid in many esports
is popular
Loud
valorant, csgo, rocket league etc
Ofc not
Fair
That true there csgo team is kinda known
Why would I watch other games
theyre dogshit again though
they were good a couple of years ago
brazil although qualified
When did you start watching ow eSports
but EU is fucking everyone in cs2
True but esports makes money off popularity tho
Fair
oop
yes
Optic can be the most shit team and there still make money
yeah true
Yeah I wasn’t playing ow. I was playing apex and r6 before that
They had a strong contenders teams
one of the csgo goats is brazilian
Bro I'm sorry but decay was and is still overrated
I paid a lot..
No one rates decay highly dude
Like it and hate it
Decay got carried by bos last season
You'd be surprised the last couple of seasons of OWL
Yeah it’s hard to get into but I was playing it on console. Which doesn’t have aa and everyone was already cheating using xims
Decay is a good tracer but easily outclassed by the best
so can you call him overrated when everyone knows that
Thought he was known for his genji last season
He was kinda
Shit teams fucks him over tho
Btw is eu playing today?
Is sugar free top 5 genji
Decay is washed
Uh nah
No
All time
What teams playing in EU and NA today
Man there’s no NA dps top 5 on any dps lmao
Yesterday was boring. A bunch of meh teams
I would not say current either
You never know
top 1 ass player
Nope
Oof
NA and EU are some of the weakest regions for OW esports
Don't even try that

I would throw decay in top 5 genji thougth
“Some of” what other region is there outside of Asia?
Yeah he can go their
lmao you just named 60% of the esport
?
I mean its korea 1st and then everyone else, theyre still the 2nd and 3rd best regions
China
error
China is barely alive atp
i thought they were dead
They will be back
china is carried by 1 team
China died after world cup
didnt china have their own league
I hope so
spark is still together i think
A deal is made apparently
but they cantplay
Yeah I'm not saying they aren't bad I'm saying compared to Asia they are weak
Why
Don’t they have their own tournament?
Yeah
what region
or will they have their own
Cuz they are chinese
ah
but
The question is
I want to see more old OWL teams in OWCS
hmm
Oh I see
Will Guxue come back tho
There was more info about china ow like a week ago
He was like yeah we are back
Hunters left before the last season
Hunter's folded after last season
i knowwww
It won't be orgs I feel
- New deal incoming apparently 2. Spark wants to compete in saudi world cup tournament
bruh
If they stayed one more season, they would’ve gotten 6 million
It will be just small team
owl
Spark only team that will have org
Doesn’t every org want to compete in that?
Wdym?
And asia is pretty much just 1 country rn
Maybe for Val orgs and lol orgs show interest
china world cup team vs falcons dive mirror would be hella entertaining
Owl isn’t a thing tho
their world cup team is basically
spark

It is
You know what I mean
Owcs?
Yes
china is hard carried by 1 team lmao
Yes
Imagine china without guxue. entire region is cooked
ksa too
#3 owl team last season. The only non fraud apac team
They have a lot of good players
They also had very good supports
Twisted minds and roc. So two
True
Twisted only good team so far
koreans
charge core is ok but its a big dropoff from spark
are we considering KSA to be a separate region
im saying ksa national
because if so yea
Oh you mean Saudi players not Saudi orgs?
You are really count roc as as KSA team
yea
It’s mostly Saudi players and it’s a Saudi org, isn’t it?
It has 3 ksa players in it
We players in a team
roc is being carried by checkmate izayaki
but its deadlifted by the koreans
nah
Like ksa has one good team of ksa players
I heard roho was good
I mean loljkhaha
shot
Like twisted is good
A lot of people hyping him up
Outside of spark…not really
You have watched one year of ow
You don't really knw
Make a dream EU roster
Know
current players only
there was quite a bit of depth
They have good players outside of spark
china had many good
If china actually made more orgs for owl back I say they would be close to Korea
Tvnt, roho, and then some other dudes idk lol
but the scene has been dying
Ameng
players
Lige
exactly
Ameng is like diamond
Thats not a good team on the world scale
chinese 2nd team sweeps them easily
Ball one trick moment
Those are not relevent
How does that make sense then
yea
You mean players that no longer play? So can I say USA is better because we have a World Cup champion and owl champion super?
They arent playing rn
I just named you two guys lol. Idk many of them. I mean I do but they’re not that great
Players that left cause of owl shutdown
Hunters has good players
Charge did
I think he plays but i just heard he has fun gatekeeping his friend lmao
hunters was prob the strongest
Would they still be around tho?
If China is back
Wasn’t leave on it
I know Jimmy will be
if they didnt get disbanded
some of them
ya
Jimmy is in ksa league
He’s not that good tho. I saw him play
A lot of charge players still will play
Nope
Oh wait nvm
That means you didn't watch him play
Lol
in hunters
They forbidden him from playing
I watched a season of him
His latest performance
jinmu too
That was so funny
What was the reason?
Charge was a mid af team tho
On a questionable charge team
Jinmu a weird hero specialist
Twenty DVA
the shitt
His team didn’t make good decisions. You can’t have more than 2 non Saudi players and they had 3 and since jimmy was the third to join, he got automatically kicked unfortunately
by his phara
Xernea mercy
Full of Chinese players…?
Rip
Piggy was not Chinese
Ye
Flow3r
Okay full of Chinese but piggy
Unfortunately
They didn’t have control on who stays
And choi
He’s Korean?
Did y’all forget about china hs player?
Not Jimmy
China has more depth than ksa but they can still only make 1 contending team
end of argument
He was on spark
I’m asking his nationality not where he’s playing
Develop
Nope
China players can't play in owcs
He was paired with leave
So he has to be Korean
So he’s Korean lessgooo
what season
Shy
lol thats such an obvious answer
Lmao
madtninja was in his bag thinking about chinese players
Of all time?
well well well
hello
yes
whats the meta now
Mmmm hard to say lip can dominate players up to season 5 I say even old season player s
mauga soj sym
Mauga go brrrrrr
isnt shy known for his sojourn
or is sojourn considered a hitscan
Shy was close to him tho
wtf mauga?
Ya
I've seen alot of Mauga reaper sombra as well
yea top 3 soj
proper lip shy
He also can play Ashe
yea
Tracer
Sombra
and echo
0 damage
i thought tracer didnt get t0uch
but mauga did
They don't work with mauga
Yup
So they benched
So did sym
we might see
forgot I cant send gifs grr
more mauga or orisa
Toyou looking fine on mauga though his tracking is insane
no ana
Moira lucio
Did you see junbin tracking on heesang
y not pick ana to hard counter mauga
kiri for mauga suzu
ana is slow
unlike kiri or moira
or lucio
Isn't a hard counter.
look at comp speed tbh
ic
moira being played is kinda wild
mauga seems unkilable without zen ana
eh
u got sym beam and soj
headshots
Dps passive nerf + mauga buff = mauga op
ic ic
yeah but if your slow and stationary ana or zen gets picked by the soj the fight is just over bc youve lost that supp for at least another minute lol
i am assuming doomfist is bad rn cause mauga?
well
weeeell
my thinking was that since its mauga comp then theres no dive so theres no issue running ana zen
Yesterday NU.AGE played doomfist, took 2 maps of SRP I believe
I still am laughing at junbin
all in the speed foo
fr
Tanking soj and trolling heesang
he was shooting at sym
ahahahha
is sym map dependent or do they just spam it anyway
Bro said “let run two tanks wac don’t stand a chance”
comp has consistently been soj sym mauga lucio kiri
honestly rather it to them being stomped
Fr
LMAO
junbin shooting heesang
would you go as far as to say that lip hard diffed proud on soj
yea
wtf
genji in 2024
orisa seems good now
cause good against both mauga and d00mfist
dry blade KEKW
yea
its either mauga
or orisa
but mauga is just better
just cus the burning dmg is so good rn
it forces suzu often
which leads to more safe focus
kills
uhhhhh
Sigma is more of a counter than orisa.
Most of the time orisa is countered by mauga
Mauga is 1000% stronger
tbh a C tier owl tank mauga vs S tier guxue or fearless winton
but if u wanna kill mauga
just play mauga mirror
👍
does sigma get overrun by mauga comp tho
Yeah, vs SPG comp I'd say the comp korea was playing yesterday would work pretty well
Ya
OMFG?
Which is Mauga Reaper Sombra Moira Lucio
kitsune blade is 2 times as insane as nano blade
Sig Ist bad it just damage to much for sig
yes
they need to nerf genji
btw demontic
he just shredsssss man
this orisa brawl comp looks good
Ehhhh
eh
this is the spg that was in owl
Genesis being absolutely rolled rn
id still use mauga sym
CHOI ON A 20 KS WHAT
genji is at 52% blade meanwhile kiriko already has her ult up
who are they plying

SPG (Sin Prisa gaming)
doesnt sym have to play with a barrier tank tho?
countering their inner demons
Twitch channel points vote had 84% for genesis to win
btw this rubber ducky orisa skin is cute af
c9
ADE my beloved
proper>shy>lip
tbh as of now idk shys skill atm
he could be washed like choi
Choi was always mid imo
What season
yea he was always s tier on 2020 2023
and that one season when he kicked the boston coach
himself
Did not watch much in 2020-2021
oh
Started comming back to ow 2021
they couldn’t let prophet thrive for a week lmao
any hitscan that isn’t sojourn is a throw pick now
They seen him cook on the Cass and had to stop it
pls no mauga pls no mauga pls no mauga 🙏🏾
They showed ONE game
FUCK
NOOO
PLS
PLAY ORISA
DOOM
SIGMA
ANYTHING
cant wait for this high octane emp blossom
Sigma comp is fun
Imagine if World Cup was mauga meta
We would not have loved it
isn’t ariel2 on citrus nation why is he on LRG?
because he isnt on citrus nation
got my teams mixed up whoops
imagine if it was dive where the comp actually takes skill to execute
but oh wait they giga buffed bastion mid patch bc they are morons
the best sigma team didn’t even play in OWWC bc blizzard didnt allow roster changes 😭
damm mauga meta is not fun to watch
fr shit boring as hell
I mean we got to see doom comp roll the other teams lol
Fuk it. Let’s go sheer cold
They’re not playing mauga
Ur coping lol
How is that coping
the best sigma team (mayhem) literally didn’t play in world cup
if you genuinely think KSA is better then mayhem at the sigma comp you are special
No but why did they do Atlanta roster almost instead of mayhem based
bc dive was meta
in qualifiers
then they changed the patch and didn’t allow roster change
which is true
Mayhem can dive well to
mayhem isn’t the best dive team, that’s their best roster for dive minus sparkle who is terrible
Well they bet to much it was gonna be a dive meta for the whole wc
Blizzard loves to make shitty and boring heros broken
Thougth i think blizzard something about shaking upp the meta
that is a game I want to watch
23rd of march i think not sure
shaking up the meta is fine. shaking up the meta to make it a braindead meta is not fine. Blizzard loves making easy heroes grossly powerful
Wait is that a friday 😭
and