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#esports-discussion
heavy scroll
hybrid hollow
Will just styled on that immortality field š„š„š„
Sheer cold comeback starts now
heavy scroll
this will have a miracle push
hybrid hollow
What happend to rohos acc
Nothing he just likes to change his name a lot
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Oh
hybrid hollow
Twitter
Pretty sure he's trolling
But honestly esports retirement is a joke half the time
I'm pretty sure crimzo still has his retirement post pinned š
heavy scroll
they retired from the league, not Champions š
hybrid hollow
WOOOO NA TIME WOOOO!
I'm sure this first match will be a highly competitive map 5 series
SEXYMAN69 v SOMONE
heavy scroll
toronto line up should be illegal
hybrid hollow
What a matchup
static turret
Toronto is stacked asf
hybrid hollow
High noon is just so bad
hybrid hollow
the bubble bandit comp is not working in NA
It's crazy how Korea doesn't play doom for one day and everyone else is just like "write that down"
meanwhile Toronto just doesnt care
Rupal Baptiste baby
dense sandal
thats just unfair lol
hybrid hollow
outrageous levels of bm
hybrid hollow
No
weary lance
šš
static turret
Accurate representation of owl vs ladder
hybrid hollow
literally
Is SEXYMAN69 solo or aspect
Nobody is gonna know the answer to that idk why I asked
static turret
They tried
They realized their 5 stack gm team didnāt work vs coordinate good playwrs
hybrid hollow
I'm sure it's fun at least if they're friends yk
stray quarry
hybrid hollow
Probably didn't expect to make groups
stray quarry
heās just dancing
static turret
Is that the actual defiant team?
stray quarry
menacingly
hybrid hollow
Is that the actual defiant team?
Uh yes technically
It's the same org that owned defiant
And they didn't buy out or whatever when owl ended so the org still exist so they just signed the top of NA with someone and merit
hybrid hollow
Pelican needs his revenge on that mayhem core
glass sleet
Wtf itās already game 3?? I missed the whole thing
hybrid hollow
Wtf itās already game 3?? I missed the whole thing
You missed the rein appearance
glass sleet
You missed the rein appearance
I missed literally everything
hybrid hollow
Lenny just hurt my eyes with those flicks
static turret
Sexyman69 put up a fight
hybrid hollow
is someone the best Winston in owcs rn??
static turret
I havenāt seen a lot of Winston mainly doom zar jq ram so he might be
fast tusk
it will. and ill change my name when m80 play :)
static turret
They know theyāre cooked
fast tusk
lmao mauga
heavy scroll
not bloons š
fast tusk
btd6
heavy scroll
not caster jinxing the c9
fast tusk
omg
static turret
LMAO
fast tusk
the see nine
static turret
C9
hybrid hollow
the Quit9
heavy scroll
nekkra will never escape c9
wicked elk
yeah that was on purpose
glass sleet
Wtf happened? How did they c9?
wicked elk
they knew they were wasting everyoneās time
hybrid hollow
Wtf happened? How did they c9?
They just gave up
static turret
Who plays next ?
hybrid hollow
Uhhhh
wicked elk
Who plays next ?
youāre mom
hybrid hollow
I honestly forgot
hybrid hollow
But the last match is timeless v m80
wicked elk
I think the queen and Lucio just both forgot
loss anyways
wicked elk
oh it's luminosity vs sum guys
snooze
glass sleet
Hey Iām glad we have some orgs playing. Didnāt expect much to join immediately after owl
hybrid hollow
Nah I think this game could be good actually
glass sleet
I wanna see kingās genji
glass sleet
I donāt know him. I didnāt watch owl except for the last season
I just heard he use to play and his genji was great
hybrid hollow
Nah rupal should've just called the other teams shit fr
hybrid hollow
I mean shit best team in the region and a owl champ
wicked elk
they have someone
hybrid hollow
awkward silence
wicked elk
too bad falcons is winning world
nothing beats that
being that stacked is just unfair
hybrid hollow
proper gets banned for account boosting back in 2017 and they get disqualified
hybrid hollow
then majed turns out to be a secret top tier DPS player
And he's been waiting for this moment
Lowkey W story line
Rupal with the based opinion on the new map veto system
glass sleet
they have someone
Who
glass sleet
proper gets banned for account boosting back in 2017 and they get disqualified
Majed has to play dps
Easy
wicked elk
huge bob
wicked elk
always love seeing cass played
fun to watch
vision gotta get off ashe
heās getting ran over
wicked elk
that was insane
hybrid hollow
Omg joobi with the beat of heavens
wicked elk
NO WAY
errant hornet
NOOOOO
glass sleet
damn
hybrid hollow
Bro joobi getting that beat off for Danteh was so clutch
errant hornet
I want the full team of randoms to beat Toronto one day ngl
If Durpee is in they 2-0 ngl
hybrid hollow
I want the full team of randoms to beat Toronto one day ngl
Well they're probably not gonna play randoms anymore
mortal cipher
Holy
errant hornet
Durpee solos these frauds
vestal flicker
Hi guys! Newer casual console guy here, looking for people to play with! Dm me if u want! Pc players welcome as well
heavy scroll
damn does everyone hate new queen's street
heavy scroll
Hi guys! Newer casual console guy here, looking for people to play with! Dm me i...
get the looking for gaming role
hybrid hollow
damn does everyone hate new queen's street
God awful map
Push is just so damn unfair sometimes
citrus has to win 3-4 fights in a row while LG just has to win one fight push a few meters and reset
that koth match was amazing though
hybrid hollow
Pls keep hydron off tracer
wicked elk
Pls keep hydron off tracer
keep him off the roster
hybrid hollow
His tracer aim actually looks like mine
wicked elk
hawk rock
hybrid hollow
hybrid hollow
spectra needs to carry
and uv needs to remember he isn't rupal
Ik he shared a roster with him but
kind rune
just not good enough to ego a soj ult
Nah id win
kind rune
get hydron on the BENCH
LOLLL
hybrid hollow
just not good enough to ego a soj ult
Shu would've got the kill fr
hybrid hollow
is there a good kr match with the genji pick
Uh proper played genji earlier on lijang I believe
errant hornet
Ojee and dellor should have a 1v1
errant hornet
ngl watching Apply's stream for this cooks so much harder
I can FEEL myself losing iq
errant hornet
nah it so funny
he just fucking rambles about the most autistic shit for 30m at a time
like I watched the Flats costream for 30 seconds and it was aids
Apply is so much better
or you can be normal and watch the base stream but
hybrid hollow
Pelican got a 5k pulse in spirit
wicked elk
thatās actually so painful
errant hornet
thats so fucking tragic
errant hornet
nah i think timeless had that
I mean if pelican got the 5k pulsebomb
hybrid hollow
They definitely had tht ngl
errant hornet
but yeah
that was super winnable
only scary thing was if a fight is extended and hawk gets a flux
hybrid hollow
Peli died with pulse during OT spawns no way they recontest and get a real fight
errant hornet
yeah
idk
that soj shot just won the game
LMFAO
highest value pick of all time
hybrid hollow
First flash point of the day I think
fathom igloo
I want nekkras piplup pillow
hybrid hollow
Hydron with hunters soj skin
hybrid hollow
when was that
I'm not even sure I could be misremembering
I've been watching ow since 2am some of the games are becoming mush
Dude m80 had to commit everything and still lost the fight
wicked elk
hey whereās the owcs replay codes posted
hybrid hollow
There's sum Google doc out there on Reddit somewhere
hybrid hollow
hey whereās the owcs replay codes posted
Pretty sure it'll be updated with today's matches trmrw
wicked elk
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vRy-b0Vo5LecKRY21-pBfw40TRlq...
appreciate it
static pond
Heās on ping
wicked elk
Rage carry moment incoming
hybrid hollow
I thought he was in na now?
static pond
Nah think he on ping still
static pond
I knew hydron was ass but holy shit
errant hornet
shambali zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
worn falcon
the frauds
wicked elk
Actual massive sojourn diff
worn falcon
they need some better supports too
wicked elk
they need some better supports too
uv is great
hybrid hollow
uv and lep were solid
wicked elk
perma bench hydron
hybrid hollow
Pelican is on ping AND CHOPPER JUST OWNS HYDRON EVERY TIME
wicked elk
he just got GAPPED
worn falcon
And i can see hydron burning bridges again
hybrid hollow
EVERY TIME THEY PLAY HE GETS OWNED
worn falcon
150 ping gaming from kr
hybrid hollow
This is the second time hydron has been upset by rokit and chopper
Like cmon
Did bro not watch the film???
why couldn't they pick up seekeršššš
I've never seen rokit's face before
"play for the soj gap" HE KNOWS š
errant hornet
why couldn't they pick up seekeršššš
ong
I feel like id rather have seeker 100x over hydron
timid phoenix
did anyone watch m80 match today
this is what starting hydron and having gator as a coach does to a team
glass sleet
did anyone watch m80 match today
They lostā¦? Great itās spoiled for me now
glass sleet
this is what starting hydron and having gator as a coach does to a team
Hydron isnāt that good tbh. Heās overrated but no hate to the dude
glacial bronze
Gm
glass sleet
Oh noooooooo wac is winning? Who wouldāve thought
stray quarry
bread cam
dive comp my beloved
?
lip needs to get his ass off soldier
most useful high noon
followed by most useful tactical visor
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Heesang>Lip
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Rn yes
stray quarry
PLEASE
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Why soilder when soj exist
sullen berry
man glad i didn't stream that match
3-0 took less than 30 mins
40 mins tops if you exclude the start
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Yes I think
glass sleet
Oops
unique root
iām pretty sure any damage bubble blocks will charge beam
glass sleet
iām pretty sure any damage bubble blocks will charge beam
Thanks. I had to play winton cuz the tank was rolling on Zarya. I donāt know how to play him at all. But we almost capped
Brutal stagger
They couldāve left him live longer as well
sullen berry
spot the difference
glass sleet
C9
sullen berry
!jumbo 
fast tusk
noooo yetiiiii
young fractalBOT
fast tusk
omg...
glass sleet
They got lucky
sullen berry
!jumbo 
young fractalBOT
sullen berry
that was the greatest Yeti9
glass sleet
Zest is always so much fun to watch on tracer
sullen berry
completely slipped off the point and missed the retake
unique root
he is
glass sleet
Definitely my favorite tracer
unique root
iād lock in while watching owl games when he was playing
glass sleet
Wish I had that fusion tracer skin
weary talon
Zest mentioned
glass sleet
Gg
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LETS GO RUNAWAY
static pond
Jake
cobalt moss
oh
idk this is like the first time ive watched ow2 esports since 2023 grand finals
im so confused im ngl
genesis is stacked tho..
sullen berry
okay but do they have hybrid
sullen berry
unique root
how do u fumble that hard
robust patio
im back
poker face won
wow
jesus
that full powered zarya tracking
sheeeesh
that early beat
carried
gg
static pond
What is going on with genesis
humble token
Idk
sullen berry
and then the cycle repeats itself 8 hours later for Jpan
glass sleet
eu
I mean why is it in 2 hours not 4?
Also, TML swapping a soj player out for another soj player?
static pond
hybrid hollow
New feedjaegon š£ļø
hybrid hollow
First EU match of the day with the double reaper guy gameplay
hybrid hollow
You don't know the goat SEXYMAN69???
reef seal
I only know of dantwist
reef seal
You don't know the goat SEXYMAN69???
The only sexy OW player is ben bestā¦
hybrid hollow
Pretty sure it's a collegiate/ladder team
reef seal
Ah that makes more sense then
hybrid hollow
fist match kind of a c9
Idk if crispy just forgot to touch or what but EU overwatch am I right
weary talon
The only sexy OW player is ben bestā¦
hybrid hollow
Bro seicoe needed to make a play there ngl
yk crispy has beat just say fuck it and go for the stick on him
rugged quest
Landon cant die there too
just drops for nothing when they have double support ult last fight
wicked elk
get hadi off winston
hybrid hollow
get hadi off winston
Let him cook
Just wasn't their map
Also what's the difference between shockwave and cookie don't they have the same or similar hero pool??
wicked elk
teams avoiding new queens street like the plague
itās so funny
that map needs a rework
hybrid hollow
It's just so bad and so unfun to play
rugged quest
Also what's the difference between shockwave and cookie don't they have the same...
Pretty identical heropool yeah
shockwave might be better on flex dps' though
if they want to run tracer echo or something
hybrid hollow
maybe cookie is just better on blizz world
subbing him out for the same hero to be played is funny
wicked elk
havenāt seen a single ana in any NA maps so far lol
hybrid hollow
Well uh he's died first two times in a row
hybrid hollow
havenāt seen a single ana in any NA maps so far lol
Defiant played ana zen I think on day 1
wicked elk
Defiant played ana zen I think on day 1
they are the best NA team they can get away with it
hybrid hollow
but it wasn't streamed officially plus they can pretty much play whatever comp and win
wicked elk
especially if it was a bad team
hybrid hollow
they are the best NA team they can get away with it
Yup
Is landon playing on ping?
rugged quest
Hadi getting bullied
hybrid hollow
Why did astro beat there??
What did he see that made him use beat
Yeah nvm dont let him cook get this man off the monkey
Uhhh
Production slacking today
rugged quest
It has been slacking the whole time
there have been like 6 straight up wrong graphics
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Bro they have ppl with like phd and shit how does this happen lol
There is always some technical diffuculty
rugged quest
Bro they have ppl with like phd and shit how does this happen lol
Poverty esports
Id be more upset if this happened in owl
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they do NOT have ppl wit phds behind production š
They mentioned it once
rugged quest
but in owcs case theyre working with very limited resources
so i cut them some slack
hybrid hollow
Yeah they literally let go almost all the esports staff and had to go source people for owcs specifically
wicked elk
watching the cowboy bepop trailer for the 100th time
WAIT THEY DIDNT PAUSE
WTF
you gotta be kidding me
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Why did hadi not play ball
hybrid hollow
Why did hadi not play ball
You don't want hadi ball
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Is it not better than his winston
hybrid hollow
Not really
Plus what does he do on ball here
Sure he dies less but that doesn't solve anything
humble token
This is defently going to map 5
Reaper is also bad with ball
So ig Winston is better
fathom igloo
WAIT THEY DIDNT PAUSE
Why would they pause because one of their staff people lost power
wicked elk
worlds most expensive stall
hybrid hollow
Ram block is an ability blessed by the gods
Chase is just holding block at like 30hp with reaper just harassing him
wicked elk
nice stuff hadi
hybrid hollow
Ouu shockwave widow
dense wharf
that feels really bad to me idk
esp since spacestation are running kiri monkey and not moira ram
hybrid hollow
Probably is but he only has to land one shot fr
dense wharf
hes on defense
hybrid hollow
yeah ts did not work
dense wharf
yeah he just doesnt get to play lol
wicked elk
poor shockwave
hybrid hollow
He's staying?????
wicked elk
actual cyber bullying
dense wharf
idk why they went for widow
hybrid hollow
yikes
dense wharf
backbone 
wicked elk
ram block is so stupid
dense wharf
nah ram block is fine spacestation played that badly
worn falcon
Immortal rammatra
dense wharf
they should just pass the choke kill the widow and play with flipped map
worn falcon
LOL
hybrid hollow
Clowd 5k pulse
worn falcon
The hell spitfire playing
hybrid hollow
Did London just not scrim the ram
dense wharf
winston is much b etter
hybrid hollow
Bc I feel like hadi could pick it up why are they so dedicated to the Winston
dense wharf
ram is overrated
IMO
ram and zar have WAY too high of a pick priority than they deserve
hybrid hollow
I mean it did work so I can't complain
Winton as a pick isn't bad but I think hadi could be better on ram since it plays more into what hes used to
dense wharf
not really?
rein and ram arent that similar
especially in these kiri lucio tracer comps
dense wharf
his winston is fine
hybrid hollow
Autocorrect on my ass
dense wharf
LOL
i like winston here for londons style of 5 man all ins tho
like what they were doing with sym last season
in owl
hybrid hollow
The sym comp had so many funny moments
dense wharf
where they just collapse rather than traditional rush of running over front to back
hybrid hollow
the tp shatter miss lives in my head rent free
dense wharf
realest
hybrid hollow
they should've had the honorary European do the interview
hybrid hollow
honestly I forgot this team can play things outside of sym bastion and mei
damn backbone so humble
hybrid hollow
Oh this is the quad support team
His name is zarya enjoyer but isn't running the zar Cass comp
very misleading
dreamy cave
Seeing the echo made me worried but they are making it work well
hybrid hollow
Seeing the echo made me worried but they are making it work well
Why would it make u worried she's the second best dps in pro play rn
dreamy cave
I feel like long range dps are strong rn, I thought they would have hard countered her
hybrid hollow
I feel like long range dps are strong rn, I thought they would have hard counter...
They just get dove from the doom comp
dreamy cave
They just get dove from the doom comp
True, but this was before seeing how well they were doing and the lineup they stayed with throughout the first point
hybrid hollow
Plus tracer is op so any long range dps just gets harassed the whole game leaving the echo free
hybrid hollow
True, but this was before seeing how well they were doing and the lineup they st...
even if they did know the doom comp is just better
I'm every way
dreamy cave
It's not that deep bro, this is litterally the 3nd owl match I've watched since they redid everything. Idk what the new comps look like
hybrid hollow
I just feel like if you're gonna play Cass into doom you need the zar rn
hybrid hollow
It's not that deep bro, this is litterally the 3nd owl match I've watched since ...
I was just saying š¤·š¾āāļø
hybrid hollow
This is a way better map for a square tho
dense wharf
theyre inting
hybrid hollow
Way easier for kabe to find dip now
dense wharf
why arent nuage swapping to zarya doesnt doge play it
hybrid hollow
why arent nuage swapping to zarya doesnt doge play it
No idea
Could ask the same thing Abt imscared
His acc name is quite literally zarya enjoyer
dense wharf
i feel like most lower end teams only/mostly scrimmed ram
hes def the easiest to run
hybrid hollow
Ram is the easiest and safest comp to run the doom comp is the best comp when executed correctly and the zarya comps get played into the doom comps on sum maps
At least in Korea
dense wharf
doom comp isnt the best
winston is
but i think teams r scared of running it
doom is literally just winston lite
less committed less chaotic winston
dense wharf
i feel like we should be seeing more winston sombra but
hybrid hollow
But you have teams with great Winston players playing the doom so who knows
dense wharf
idk maybe my meta read is wrong but
im very confident in it
this patch
like i dont see any reason of running doom over winston if u have a player/team who can play winston
hybrid hollow
I mean you can get in and out faster
Not as much staging maybe
I also think this bc Lucio and Kiri are strong and doom just has good synergy with those heros
dense wharf
I mean you can get in and out faster
not in
only out
but u dont need to get out, ur playing kiri lucio
so winston + echo/sombra + tracer + kiri + lucio
hybrid hollow
Ik why the Sombra isn't getting played tho they just chase her down
It was happening in scrims when ppl where still trying out comps
hybrid hollow
it was just hard for ppl to make her work it seemed
hybrid hollow
but also the meta is kinda changing every week
bc it started with all the top tier teams commiting to the doom comps then one day Korea started playing the orisa zar and Cass so everyone else just followed suit
dense wharf
s: winston, dva
s (map dependent): sig
a: ram, doom
a (map dependent): jq
b: zar
this patch imo
but maybe im wrong idk i havent seen scrims
hybrid hollow
i dont get the soldier/cass either
WAC was running zar Cass to deal with the echo on kings row and the bubble on Cass and tracer allows them to commit more I guess
LG did the same thing actually
dense wharf
yeah but idk why u run zar over just running dva
hybrid hollow
Idk how it plays out against two like really good teams tho
dense wharf
its the same as doom/winston
from what i see of zarya she just trails behind and cant use her charge even when she does get it
and if she does use her charge its underwhelming and lowkey dva wouldve done more
hybrid hollow
that's what the tracer and Cass are for they just hard commit to get charge and the zarya plays more passive
That's how Danteh played it
dense wharf
yeah but its just useless
hybrid hollow
You kinda just let ur DPS cook
dense wharf
if u just place dva in the same position u can rotate and get more done
and dmatrix gets more value than bubbles bc u cant use the charge anyways
hybrid hollow
the teams that can play dva play her tho
By teams I mean only falcons
but idk if that's bc dva is the better pick or bc you have hanbin on your roster
dense wharf
hanbin can play zarya just as well
dreamy cave
Atl is still in this owl??
dense wharf
but their meta read is just good i think
like i feel like most teams just have the wrong meta read, idk
hybrid hollow
Atl is still in this owl??
The franchises don't exist anymore
It's like any other e sport now
dreamy cave
Falcons are a different team then
hybrid hollow
Just having 5 ppl who want to play is the only requirement now but some players still get picked up by orgs
hybrid hollow
Falcons are a different team then
Yeah it's a Saudi org that picked a super team in korea
- majed lol
dreamy cave
Super team how?
hybrid hollow
So they do go with the zarya comp but why so late
dreamy cave
And majed isn't that bad
hybrid hollow
Super team how?
Proper stalker Smurf hanbin Fielder chiyo
That's a super team if I ever seen one
dreamy cave
Brother that's half of atlanta
hybrid hollow
And majed isn't that bad
No it's funny bc he's only there for the Saudi representation
dense wharf
No it's funny bc he's only there for the Saudi representation
saudi cheerleading captain !!
hybrid hollow
Brother that's half of atlanta
They haven't played for tht team in a year bro
owl has been gone for tht long now
dreamy cave
They haven't played for tht team in a year bro
Fair.
hybrid hollow
plus you can say that for any team tht has owl players
You can call defiant half of mayhem and you're not wrong
dreamy cave
But dang. I didnt know they were the justice league
hybrid hollow
yep
Then you have WAC with lip heesang max shu and chorong
Them and falcons are top two of Korea pretty much
dreamy cave
Damn
Idk how I feel about chorong, but tbh with his teammates, he only really needs to not mess up
hybrid hollow
???
Bro just won a owl championship
I don't think u need to worry Abt chorong lol
Tbh after watching them play none of them seem questionable
dreamy cave
I very seriously forgot who won last owl. It's been a year
hybrid hollow
Heesang has been solid especially when he can play tracer and Max has looked nice too
hybrid hollow
I very seriously forgot who won last owl. It's been a year
The Florida mayhem Mer1t, Checkmate, Someone, Ch0rong, Rupal
Oh and WHORU bc he was on the roster
dense wharf
Then you have WAC with lip heesang max shu and chorong
wac tank line is SO bad its not even funny
like max junbin
are holding them back
so much
dense wharf
I mean they've been solid
not really
they look solid vs most teams bc they have lip heesang shu chorong as dps supp
so they just 4v5
hybrid hollow
they look solid vs most teams bc they have lip heesang shu chorong as dps supp
Can't argue against tht
dreamy cave
Oh mayhem won? That's good for them. And yeah, their lineup is great. I remember always being scared of mayhem as a team going up against atl
dense wharf
but vs a good team ur gonna see just how much theyre holding them back
dreamy cave
They would always play close matches
hybrid hollow
Stage two the return of WHORU š£ļøš£ļøš£ļø
Make it happen
Honestly I haven't been paying attention to this match
Oh nuage is just running them over
rugged quest
i dont get the soldier/cass either
cass is great against the meta doom comps
static turret
Just waiting for m80 vs Toronto
rugged quest
reaper is solid with ram in generl
hybrid hollow
Just waiting for m80 vs Toronto
What day is tht
static turret
Uhh
hybrid hollow
is it tmmrw?
rugged quest
s: winston, dva
s (map dependent): sig
a: ram, doom
a (map dependent): jq
b: zar...
Def not in organized
dense wharf
cass is great against the meta doom comps
yeah but echo just does more
hybrid hollow
Wait no I don't think m80 plays Toronto
dense wharf
they dont do nearly as much as they should for being picked as much as they do
hybrid hollow
They lost to timeless
dense wharf
because people arent running those tanks as much?
okay?
static turret
Interesting
static turret
lol
rugged quest
its a viability tierlist (imo)
If the highest t1 competition is not running said tanks how can you rate them as the best
dense wharf
because i dont believe tier 1 competition coaches are evaluating the meta correctly
hybrid hollow
because i dont believe tier 1 competition coaches are evaluating the meta correc...
And you are?
rugged quest
You dont think koreans tried monkey in scrims?
dense wharf
And you are?
i mean, i believe my own opinion is correct yeah (and so far the games have been proving me right)
hybrid hollow
I think it's safe to say doom is better in some way if Smurf is willingly playing the doom
hybrid hollow
i mean, i believe my own opinion is correct yeah (and so far the games have been...
Are you t1?
dense wharf
no lol
hybrid hollow
how can u judge a level of play tht you're not at
dense wharf
i mean
rugged quest
Even if monkey dive is optimal in a vaccuum where everyone plays perfectly, if its not worth to run by the best monkey teams it cant be rated as the top pick
dense wharf
people have opinions
so far my opinions have been proven right by the matches so idk
!
hybrid hollow
I'm not saying ur completely wrong maybe ur right who knows but what makes ur thoughts more correct than the ppl who get paid to coach and play at tht level
hybrid hollow
so far my opinions have been proven right by the matches so idk
You're not playing the same game
dense wharf
i said i believe theyre more correct
dense wharf
You're not playing the same game
wdym
im not talking abt my games
im talking abt the owcs games
i barely launch this game soloq is a prison
hybrid hollow
then what are they proving to you?? Bc the zar has been played by the best teams
dense wharf
then what are they proving to you?? Bc the zar has been played by the best teams
i havent seen a winston team lose yet
rugged quest
i havent seen a winston team lose yet
Whats the team in question
hybrid hollow
i havent seen a winston team lose yet
London is the only team that has seriously ran the Winston
dense wharf
Whats the team in question
i mean i havent seen a team running winston and losing
hybrid hollow
And it's not playing crazy stacked teams either
hybrid hollow
i mean i havent seen a team running winston and losing
Has to be bait
rugged quest
i mean i havent seen a team running winston and losing
I havent seen a team running hog and losing
dense wharf
Has to be bait
? š
again im not saying im OBJECTIVELY correct
im saying what my opinion is
xd
hybrid hollow
You said you haven't seen a team running Winston lose when only one team has ran Winston against teams they're better than on paper anyway
The first time Winston has been played into a team tht was actually competitive was today
dense wharf
The first time Winston has been played into a team tht was actually competitive ...
and u could definitely see the winston made a big difference
they lose if they play ram or doom
100%
hybrid hollow
we can't tell bc hadi didn't play anything else
rugged quest
The first time Winston has been played into a team tht was actually competitive ...
Winston been played in kr a couple of times
but other tanks are generally preferred
hybrid hollow
they lose if they play ram or doom
That's a player issue not a hero issue
hybrid hollow
They don't play doom bc hadi can't play doom like wtf
dense wharf
the reaper wouldnt be able to do nearly as much as he did, the shockwave widow pick would completely shut them down and the enemy reaper would get more value
hybrid hollow
reaper was already getting play without the Winston
And it was still getting value
dense wharf
reaper was already getting play without the Winston
yeah but the winston pick enables reaper more (objectively)
hybrid hollow
Are u just biased against winston
hybrid hollow
...
ah yes bc the best tank in the game by far would be getting no play at all even from top tier Winston players
dense wharf
like u said
the meta isnt stable yet
and (in my opinion) teams are misreading the meta
rugged quest
the meta isnt stable yet
Dude there is a patch in 2 days this is as stable as this patches meta will get lol
hybrid hollow
The LANs will be on mid season patch I assume
For all we know we could go into a mauga torb meta
If I see this collab trailer one more time
CGL mentioned I'm proud
ember turret
Rod is catching the hands š
dreamy cave
Shax is old man. He ain't as quick as he used to be
static turret
Am I watching Orisa bunker
dreamy cave
That come back was crazy
hybrid hollow
Shax gotta show these youngins how it's done
fathom igloo
RAK!!!!!!
fathom igloo
Has rak ever won a map
hybrid hollow
Uh in contenders and flash opps yeah
Vegas won maps against the valiant that season too
RAK DIFFFF
wicked elk
mauga will overtake orisa next patch if she also doesnāt get changed
heavy scroll
3-0verwatch still alive and well
tawdry hamlet
heavy scroll
3overwatch here to stay
robust patio
hybrid hollow
Last match was just a valiant diff
cloud latch
topdragon is HIM watch it buddy...
robust patio
stray quarry
topdragon is HIM watch it buddy...
erm thats not what this says
obtuse pecan
They're them
crude grove
Oh no its klombus
reef seal
!!rule 2
young fractalBOT
Silly š š
You need to put the number directly after !rule with no space!
young fractalBOT
reef seal
@crude grove
glass sleet
Is that a owcs genji skin?
crude grove
Anyway
glass sleet
They all have skinās already. I canāt wait for the genji skin drop. Orange and black would go so hard
merry osprey
Mb wrong chat
stray quarry
!!rule 2
haha ur silly
Silly š š
You need to put the number directly after !rule with no space!
glacial bronze
gm
eager juniper
no nozl today rip
desert fractal
where can i find owcs replayt codes
sullen berry
man revati looked good today
i especially liked the part where they c9'd on a map 5
Varrel about to play a good game vs Arise Project(it will be 3-0)
unique root
who won tml vs m80?
keen abyss
who won tml vs m80?
me
sullen berry
who won tml vs m80?
haven't watched it yet, but I presume m80
the hydron pelican duo too good
keen abyss
haven't watched it yet, but I presume m80
not going to spoil it itās a banger though
much closer than anticipated
sullen berry
Insomnussy vs Hayabussy gaming next
hard forge
Insomnussy vs Hayabussy gaming next
i just opened discord now im closing it and trying to connect with nature because of youš©·āØļø
static pond
Twitter
bitter marlin
t h e d r a g o n a n d iiiiiiii a r e o n e
hot mica
weak frost
https://x.com/eswcgg/status/1767218955125493777?s=46
korea better bring it back
static pond
https://twitter.com/YiskaOut/status/1767241616442462720
Yup saw that too lol
wicked stone
what will happen if the overwatch league store resets in one day?????
does it add any new skins? for overwatch league?
balmy wolf
have there been talks to bring contenders or owl in general back to south america?
uncut drum
no clue
worn falcon
Doubt it, Overwatch Contenders died when OWL went down. As for OWCS all we know are the current plans
hybrid hollow
contenders would be a waste of time now
Unless you use the name and repurpose it for a separate league/competition in the regions that don't have owcs
But the point of contenders was for that level of play just under owl and to grow new talent but OWCS puts all level of play into one environment
robust patio
https://x.com/eswcgg/status/1767218955125493777?s=46
Shanghai dragon???!!
LIP?!!?!
crude grove
and technically OWCS is a mismatch of T2/T1 talent
pro play rank reset (real)
hazy marsh
and technically OWCS is a mismatch of T2/T1 talent
Mishmash*
robust patio
hmm
sullen berry
Japan time
Come back in 3 hours, the real show is after revati gets shanked by VARREL
weak frost
and technically OWCS is a mismatch of T2/T1 talent
owcs is what owl should've been from the start
imo
the ow scene would be lightyears ahead if that was the case
I just hope it's not too little too late cause this is like the first time in years I'm interested in ow esports apart from the world cups
and I think many others share that
cerulean crescent
I just hope it's not too little too late cause this is like the first time in ye...
The sad part about this is, that players cannot live from that. This was one of the significant benefits from owl the minimum wage/salaries
Falcons from Korea might just win all just because they got the Saudi money
weak frost
that's true but it's still in very early stages
if orgs start appearing that will change
there are a number of teams that already have orgs that haven't been announced yet
srpc already has a serious org behind them they just want to reveal it after stage 1
and I think some other teams do tok
cerulean crescent
that's true but it's still in very early stages
Yeah, I agree, it is like the building year. Hopefully the orgs are getting interested and the price money will increase next year significantly
glass sleet
https://x.com/eswcgg/status/1767218955125493777?s=46
this owwc is gonna be in riyadh?
sullen berry
I just hope it's not too little too late cause this is like the first time in ye...
First time that this year's Overwatch World Cup (or should I say its replacement) has huge cash put into it, to the point that it sounds the fortnite 2019 world cup's $30m prize pool is possible for the first time in ow
But there's no official announcements other than the world cup is being hosted in Riyadh, which I was hinted at last year after talking to someone familiar with the Saudi esports scene
sullen berry
Come back in 3 hours, the real show is after revati gets shanked by VARREL
*9th place team nyam gaming vs varrel - owcs died so another 0-40 gaming legend would rise up
candid depot
why do players not use any other skin than their team skin
weak frost
First time that this year's Overwatch World Cup (or should I say its replacement...
yeah, it sucks that it's all saudi money but hopefully it will kickstart a kind of renaissance of ow esports
I've heard in places like Japan it's already rapidly increasing in popularity
sullen berry
just because saudi is set to burn all their oil money does not guarantee that others will follow
They're back but Y .
sixblow more like sexbong
listening to the japanese livestream for the authenticity
i don't mind gclef or ninek casting
but there's no world where I can put to use NineK's colour casting into my games tonight
unique root
i mean i think part of it is lack of having something completely structured/finalized
but i can also see just a general lack of interest because of the format and people not rly wanting to watch players they donāt know for hours on end
serene rose
but i can also see just a general lack of interest because of the format and peo...
Just curious, why do people not consider overwatch as a serious esport?
Is it the game itself or is esports just dying out rn
unique root
idk if iām the best person to answer that but if i had to guess itās maybe because of how OWL used to be
like i guess the format and exclusivity (?) turned people away
i donāt think the game itself has THAT much to do with it when looking at it objectively
serene rose
i donāt think the game itself has THAT much to do with it when looking at it obj...
Wdym?
I mean I look at Valorant and even though thereās different systems theyāre still fps
How much more complex is Valorant compared to overwatch?
unique root
i meant more like right now the balancing and stuff isnāt great but thatās not the core issue of why owl didnāt succeed as much as it could have
serene rose
i meant more like right now the balancing and stuff isnāt great but thatās not t...
I believe that a core part of why everything associated with overwatch is not doing so great is the reputation it has (or lacks)
I think my perception of overwatch has been improved compared to the last few seasons but thatās because I keep up with the updates
The general audience still believes overwatch is terrible in all aspects
unique root
maybe 
iāve never been one to think super critically about it i just know i enjoy playing the game with my friends and i hope owcs succeeds
sullen berry
Just curious, why do people not consider overwatch as a serious esport?
i blame you, wayyy too much pizza on stream, not enough action
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxRbT18ro8_-EZzghsiX-Lgom2nrnEIXWE?si=c_K4dWTB4TPg42JV
serene rose
i blame you, wayyy too much pizza on stream, not enough action
https://youtube.c...
I have no idea what this is
sullen berry
you're kidding right
OWCS japan coverage in japanese
viewership is double that of the english stream
serene rose
you're kidding right
No I mean this clip in particular
sullen berry
the one night I decide to watch the jp broadcast is the one time it sounds like they're saying secksBLOW and ohFeck
hollow briar
even look like a world cup
What does it look like
robust patio
What does it look like
its just a battle during owcs breaks
hybrid hollow
Just curious, why do people not consider overwatch as a serious esport?
overwatch esports is a niche within a niche so it's already hard to get recognition in tht regard plus the game having not the best reputation and blizzard just making stupid decisions with owl in the past
serene rose
Yeah they really need to look into some other mediums to improve the game
hybrid hollow
no they just need to keep doing what they're doing now
serene rose
I can tell that they could do something cause when that 2D Cowboy bebop overwatch intro was made people really liked that
serene rose
no they just need to keep doing what they're doing now
Improving the game isnāt enough if people outside of it donāt know the game is getting better
They have no interest in it otherwise
hybrid hollow
I mean it's not like they need to overwatch is still a massive game despite what people think
The reputation gets fixed thru consistency
as long as blizzard keeps up the shit they're doing now and keep building on these new foundations it'll be fine
serene rose
Guess weāll have to wait and see
hybrid hollow
And when it comes specifically to the esport it's just always gonna be niche
Who knows if we'll ever see the same numbers as peak owl maybe not
But it was bad when people who genuinely liked watching pro overwatch didn't have interest anymore
reef seal
they also need better marketing too
considering how bad it is
they donāt even tweet about it on their main OW pageā¦
molten lake
stray quarry
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/1bcx72v/team_chinahzs_reu...
GRAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
whole ravine
do you think they will ever make hanzo one shot
hybrid hollow
I hope not
cloud latch
can't argue with the goat coach
