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i guess he woke up
Thanks for the help!
you're welcome
@rugged quest hadi's team getting destroyed
They only play val and cod
OOH SORRY I WAS SUPER LATE π¬
My chat was scrolled way up
very
As an outlaws fan I am very depressed. Time to start my own ow esports team with blackjack and hookers (reference) or sumn
In other news. Excited for flash ops all things considered
Lmao
my eyes
bro ppl laughing at outlaws like we're joke
they're putting salt on my wound
cod drake kick streamer its so over
CoD player and a Kick streamer
Death
I did yesterday
Time to go buy a secondhand Shu jersey since I do Not want to fund new outlaws tbh
all of outlaws fans either unfollowed or were blocked its so funny lmao
gift me
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the shipping is as expensive as the jersey
No literally.. And I live in texas so you'd expect the shipping to be less
it's called outlaws entertainment!!!
outlaws react!! (youtube channel)
i live in eu
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Should've just called it quits like ATL and then started their own branch, but instead gotta ride out the last remaining fanbase
Watching the follow count drop in real time. Not a single one of these people cares about overwatch
bro tried to expand but it backfired and they lost ppl lol
144.3k now
let's see in few weeks
I can't even send the sc but one of the new creators had joined Outlawcord and didn't even know we had community game nights 
i got kicked out of outlaws for saying why did we play a certain comp on certain map
got kicked cuz i was defending my team
(theoretically)
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outlawcord is kinda cringe ngl
https://ibb.co/nmF703g It's just a total fucking mess
The regulars of the esports channel are even like. Ready to jump ship
crazy
greatest content creator
It's so over
surely forcing random content creators with the branding of an owl team will lead to success
and totally isn't burning money
surely
garbage org
I'm depressed
LORDENZO β€οΈ
He's a nice guy as someone whose talked to him, and he means well, but GOD this is a shit decision
Not to mention the pushing of his content during grand finals
Actually a punch in the face
i don't like lordenzo
very cringe
@Outlaws @MAJIN2UU this would give bro an aneurysm
good old times
Beasely (Outlaws owner) is a radio company and is struggling financially, and while this move might be a hail mary, it definitely feels like it will be a bankruptcy speedrun
On kick 
does content creation brings that much money that you would change the whole concept of the org
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just quit the server
it's joever
stream cod on kick and post react videos
im not even kidding thats literally all they do
https://ibb.co/G9FsdR3 It's a terrible day for rain
i've got like 2 more days before i leave im just here to watch the drama lmfao
Crypto was saying he understands it but clearly not π
The community was nice but now I am hollow
i gave up on arguing that π
I fled to a different server that is actually overwatch centric
I genuinely have zero interest in non-ow content so. I can tell outlaws is going bankrupt in the next few months
Theyβre owned by optic arenβt they
i dont think so?
they were owned by them but i think they got acquired by infinite esports
On September 20, 2017, Blizzard Entertainment officially announced that American esports organization OpTic Gaming had acquired the Houston-based franchise of the Overwatch League.[1] Reports suggested that OpTic received an investment from Texas Rangers co-owner Neil Leibman to help fund the US$20 million franchise fee.[2] On October 31, 2017, the franchise revealed its name, the Houston Outlaws, as well as their full 10-man roster and coaching staff.
do it
rip
The team was sold years ago
I did
good
Not anymore
Ok wait Iβm wrong
wait
They belong to Beasley now
A company bought the company that owns optic
better than the outlaws option π π
So technically they would still be an optic team
Beasley Broadcast Group, Inc., based in Naples, Florida, is an owner/operator of radio stations in the United States. As of June 2017, the company owned 63 stations under the Beasley Media Group name.
@full lichen lizard team
Huh
nope
beasley bought the outlaws brand specifically
not the entire optic gaming
An ACTUAL live look inside Houston Outlaws HQ right before this announcement
βοΈ Quoting Outlaws (@Outlaws)
The future of Outlawsβ¦
sad...
announced their future, which was to sign 3 non overwatch creators (2 of which being kick) and is turning into a content team instead but without actual content
they have 2 cod streamers and an anime react streamer and im not even joking
thats who they signed.
https://ibb.co/T4FGLvG such a joke
What?
Probably sold outlaws because Optic owns Dallas too, btw
mayhem profile picture
Where?
Watching rak stream
Just mad because your team is getting talent from kick of all places
Tbh I just wanna see king
And rak
my org just got destroyed
You and me can be Chengdu fans /j
First I lost Gargoyle and now I lost the whole org
bernar is in saudi league now
bro was so good on playoffs
he means in 10 years
classic blizzard bait
Rak won
Real shit why do people want a Netflix series
Netflix is ass there best animation are carried by third party studios
Where can i watch this flash ops kr thing
Arcane is pretty good
Yuh but its on netlfix
tomorrow i think
They gots the rights that why
I will be seated then
Didnt blizzard do like a wowc movie or something
Nah dont care about NA lol
They did I think
fair
Idk how it turn out
it was in 2016
kinda ass imo
i watched it in 2016 even before i knew about blizzard and stuff
i was 13 ok chill
If youre a fan of wow its prob a really fun movie to watch
but otherwise its mediocre
so like why is everyone mad at the outlaws thing
Because they ruined the brand?
hiring non ow creators
how?
yeah cause they're expanding? whats wrong with that
Pretty self explanatory that the fanbase gets mad when the org starts producing content no one in the community gives a fuck about
i mean i guess but that seems kinda childish
Id be upset too if i supported a team and they ditched everything ive supported them for and started making tiktok reaction videos
league is dead for now so it makes sense to try to fins some stability in more ventures
why tho
like they're not gonna stop doing overwatch right? so whats wrong with also doing tiktok if they want?
just dont watch the tiktoks
Yeah it doesnt affect me at all
its not like they gave up overwatch they're just expanding the talent base? so just watch the talent you want
But people are upset because theyve supported the brand for years, then they ditch their identity and start doing stuff no one in the community asked for
Damn didn't realise Lordenzo was outlaws creative director
so you're mad at the nepotism?
I feel like the main reason why people are so pissed about the change outlaws has made is that it's a disjointed pivot away from overwatch onto content creators which stream content that the majority of outlaws fans aren't really here for.
why should an outlaws fan care for an org that now has creators which have nothing to do with the brand the oulaws was created with
mm i guess I understand a bit mroe now I'm looking more into it
like yeah i dont think the problem is them becoming more variety based it's just the way they've gone about it is just super shitty
i guess so
i like outlaws so as long as they still do overwatch i dont feel like I lost anything
they probably could have hired overwatch streamers first before venturing
so just get the makers of the cinematics to make one and release it on netflix
they didnt sign any overwatch players
its all cod players and someone who reacts to anime
Valorant too
Literal backstab to the OW fans
i know that but they didn't say they would completely stop ow esports, we just gotta wait and see
Can I get names cuz maybe Iβm interested
sodaisy
toripareno
MAJIN2UU
theres nothing there for overwatch though, none of them play it so its just going to be the same thing outlaws already did which nobody liked but with a react channel now
the majin guy is replying to literally everyone in the comments section
weak ass replies too outlaws is over
what even is this
yeah i'm not expecting the new talents to play overwatch? I'm still talking about the overwatch team unless they up and left
they let go of the entire outlaws roster no
bischu, shadow and junk are staying atm and so are the content team (only know lordenzo) but thats it im pretty sure
and they dont really have a good reputation π
itβs just junkbunk and bischu left
the owl team is gone though im pretty sure so like
this also isnt even certain cause when asked if they were they responded with "at the moment" so even they might leave π
probably for the best that they leave the sinking ship
its basically just juggernaut and the new ppl signed, juggernaut is shit and the new ppl dont play overwatch so
nothing good left for ow 
true get them OUT
I remember when outlaws were in owl finals and the smm was posting lordenzo plat overwatch clips
the signs were there
that was so fucking crazy
like day of playoffs and you post your content creator hitting a 2k with illari ult
like atleast use a good clip? not a 2k with a busted ult π
Did flash ops happen today?
man
yea
Which region and did someone stream it?
Did anyone stream?
jake did and i think a bunch of others did too but im not sure
On twitch?
Thanks
its again tmrw
why the fuck are outlaws signing random people who have nothing to do with OW πππ and why does their creative director still have a job???
probably signing his friends thatβs all
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cod and valo content creators with 75 viewers
majin with total of 78 viewers this past 3 months π€£
He already blocked me
wowww
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this is so sad to see @gaunt cloak @spare quest
okay no more tweets it hurts me
imagine not knowing danteh
aka minecraft god
im speechless
the fact that i can still be an atlanta reign and remember as a nostalgic team starting from dafran
but outlaws fan is now a fan for valo streamers π
change team π
anyone knows when the flash ops games are starting today?
6pm cest
for eu
then 4+ h after that starts na games
dunno korea
did anyone stream the korean games?
the players does if they want
no
korean didnt start yet
when will it start?
say it in korean time
i will convert it to eu time so ppl know
its still recruit time
ya
Yazna quit esport with the exception of the next world cup
He said stream get him way much money
Everyone ban only include world cup and he claimed he was banned cause someone asked him if he support lgbtq and he said no
Blizzard told him to apologise to lgbtq but he refused
(Which mean cloudy was forced to apologise as well)
xdd
surely hes not scared of illari
or LAN
:))
he was not forced
he got banned DIRECTLY
they gave yznsa chance to redeem himself
but banned cloudy immediately
cloudys ban was half justified
shouldnβt have gone about it that way but he has a point about the arab players who wintrade minmax etc
obviously not only them do it though
They are asked to apologise after getting banned
u said
they give yzn chance to apologize but he refused
cloudy didnt get that chance
cloudy apologized BUT still got banned
there is a difference
They told him to apologise after getting banned
Btw cloudy can also play now
would that change his status
he cant
That will determine if they will remove ban sooner or after ban end
Yzn said ban is only for world cup for everyone
cloudy got banned 6months bro
he deleted it? finally realising this isnt a good look lmfaoo
what are you on about
he spent 8 minutes last night debating replying to me π
cringe
wow
my content creator β€οΈ
cant create content for 8 minutes
Yzn will now even get more rich and shower in oil money by pretending to be defender of arab world against western cultural expansionism
this really is "entertainment"
bro ur so high
just stop
literally π
It's what will happen, it's all about money
donβt think heβs being high about this I agree with him
his fans are literally robots
yes npcs
they will realize how cringe they were in 2-3 years
Yea wait he also said he will start face cam
Itβs literally this
spot the difference
This suck ass for me tbh, I still think he had a chance against owl hitscans, now we will never know that until next world cup
By then he will be washed
Rip me
he doesnt
I think yznsa is a good player
hes not a good dplayer
I saw him shit on them in comp for years
pharah catn play vs. illari
But lbbd7 quartz and youbi are so much better than yznsa
HAAHHAHAAHAHA
comp
yzn fanboy
im speechless
What he is the only arab overwatch streamer
Yznsa was very known in eu console
He was console player initially
He got to top 500 in no time in pc
With same hero
no wae @vale cobalt
what does he look like
does he look like this?
surely
pharmercy is broken on ping
- he got boosted by wintrading
he will get farmed by any OWL hitscan
so will quartz too versus a full korean roster that is playing the actual meta
and quartz is the best saudi dps
his skill is gm3 max
he surely doesnt look like this right https://ibb.co/HBxj8K9
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spot the difference
and i still somehow lose on my fresh account lol. 28 elims in 1 round
@robust patio have they started playing flash ops yet
I haven't seen any pov streams from kr
Dude still repeat ping argument
ksaaa
lol
name gave it away
otherwise i wouldnt know
lool
known what lool
im much better on echo π
impressive friend
keep it up β€οΈ
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peace β€οΈ
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Egypt also has eagle
you guys have ra's eye
egypt has the eagle in their flag too
oh yeah you're right
pharah is op on ping
if you actually played the game you would know
but I will explain for you
against a pharah on high ping, even if you dodge the rockets on your screen it will still hit you bc of how the netcode in the game works
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@vale cobalt
mexico too
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yesyes
true
not op lol just a little bit better
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complaining about players on high ping is crazy lmao
your using high ping as an excuse lmao
just admit that yznsa is good lmao not that hard
lmao he shits on people on echo
Ranked isnβt a metric of anything
overwatch world cup qualifiers is. he shat on sauna echo who beat korea
im talking about wolrd cup qualifiers where he diffed everyone on echo without trying
why do you think he would be on saudi team if he wasnt good lol
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"omg yznsa is so bad"
"omg yznsa played on high ping against finland thats why he won"
what that other coach guy said lol
klombos
he got every prediction in world cup wrong and is still talking with confidence
lmao
he isnt bad π he is top tier dps in eu but when it comes to asia his max skill is around gm4
lol eume is the new top region
asia is dyin g
you will see a decline in eastern asian pro plays soon
ksa is still not on korea level
eu is taking over
no they dont. this isnt about past
doesnt matter
bros so funny
u guys lost to netherland
they came in and won a world cup like nothing. korea and china have tryharded since the beginning of time
i dont think it will be enough
bro does not know
the beginning
when?
eu is taking over
no lol i didnt watch world cup in 2019
2019 arabia was a way different team. they have evolved
korea lost to finland
this year
finland wasnt even considered a good team before this
that doesnt mean korea is bad in overwatch as a whole
same with netherlands
evolved to being a transcendent being
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ehhhh
korea still in #1 throne
if 2024owwc doesnt happen
then korea will be champions
endless time
fire coach rush
rush going to drink after apologizing
unstoppable
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fact that korea wasnt the favorites in 2016 owwc cus many countries thought korea is bad at fps
but korea didnt lose a single point in 2016 ππ
not match nor map, korea didnt lose a single tic
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lool
after winning 3 champs
blizz decided to nerf korea with that patch + long term
qual and finals
even if korea got 4th, they can always make new rosters and dominate next year
wheras other countries tend to bring almost the same rosters
Didn't you all say owl best at everything?
Get reckt by Europe region 8 years rush meta
Ping is a cope m8, I challange you to reach gm with phara on high ping
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imma sleep now talk to u tmr
Quartz diffed China in hitscan with all due respect m8, we all saw him popping off, you can't erase what happened, if you are pro team that claim to be better then you shouldn't lose, its straight and simple, there are no excuses, you are pro team you adjust to meta, just watch other games esport, everyone pro know how to adapt to meta, there are no excuses for China literally
They lost against underdog team who played well and deserved to win
so fkn true
gamers
flash ops swiss
it's time
whos everyone supporting?
as a london fan i gotta support ex oblivione
srpeakcheck
otp junk otp genji otp ball
I will be seated then
:))
strong team
very
im watching them rn
vestola has covid tho
he doesnt talk in vc
only types
still dominates
chadddd
currently since skaripa is in korea and seicoe isnt available
ex oblivione has chris on flex supp
Sky reaper in korea
seicoe literally played yesterday
hes not available till game 2 today so chris is subbed in
i missed yesterdays sadly
it was so epic rng
old ex vs. new ex
hadi was asleep they woke him up
still lost
honestly i love how scuffed just the whole swiss thing is
I need answers
wrong chat
I have answers LETS GOOOOOOO
holy shit swiss stage eu has 170 teams wtf!!
na has 370
damn thats insane
i get why theres no like one place that they're being streamed now
no ONE place that they're being streamed
bad research
you know what i mean
Outlaw agency bro gotta make content somehow
Tbh I thought outlaws were gonna pick up a bunch of ow streamers or at least some that are respectful
Like I be okay with cod content creators but they gotta be respectful imo
i dont
Poor joystick
outlaws is ow
joystick XDDDDD
i never liked that guy
xbox players doesnt play real ow imo
bro shatters 5 npcs who cares
Tbh I lost track of who who
I only know juckbuck and a coach lmao
lool
And then just joystick
He still part of outlaws?
think so
send me
They deleted it
the interview?
fk em i unfollowed outlaws
very creative sentence
an npc
No more tanks ego 1v1ing?
True but rein can have a bad team
Going hog just means your tilted
Like fearless was against dragons
skill issue
bro flashops so funny
1 game left in eu
everyone joined guy's twitch
said dont c9
and bro told his teammates not to c9
bro was shaking
like 400+ ppl were on chat
bro walked into blizzard
so bad
I canβt keep track of flash ops
To many matches
And I donβt wanna search for the streams
@static pond exo vs. srpeakcheck @weary talon
but like
srpeakcheck 3-0
exo is 2-1
????
Rosters?
christopher on MS
their twitch
Ohhhh that team@
not full roster
i dont think its rng
someone is pulling the strings
out of 50 teams
they got exo
1 team has to play vs. 2-1 team
and its srpeackheck
nah its scripted
go to cloudy
cloudy spectates
so u can see every pov
from srpeakcheck
exo isnt full team
so it wont be intense as we think
hold on this is full roster
GOAT91
Tbh I donβt understand the ram pick
sr game better
I only watch team pep for naga Ben and fdgod give wash up vibes
yes
vestola from world cup too
other players are top tier too
ghost is so good on bap
watch cloudy stream
ghost is equal to rupal on bap
insaneee
vestola too good
I donβt think they have a backup tank
srpeakcheck played with galaa on tank
cuz vestola was sleeping
yesterday
galaa sigma and ram looked clean LOL
phi playedtank too
danned so good man
bro dolla ajaxed again
Saw that
This Ist looking good
2-1
So sr won
Whatβs the team hadi is on? I heard they DQed
ex oblivione
damn i was waking up lol
Hi
heyo
Hru
im good tbu
Good fuck team peps they're nepotism Andy team who suck despite always having like 3 owl players
Aww yeah clears we stan our one trick team
Chazm is my favorite player of all time π
Also from Florida Mayhem and London Spitfire π
quartz got diffed 2maps btw, quartz diffing china 3maps doesnt mean ksa is better
they are not consistent like korea and china
korea gets 1st place everytime consistently and china gets consistent 2nd places
while ksa gets 11th spot then 1st
also if theres owwc 2024, its for sure ksa will bring almost the same rosters π
ksa lack of top tier members
patriotic mfs can't understand that barely winning in a map 5 one fight scenario isn't a "diff"
not to mention this meta was basically hand crafted for them
put them in any other ow2 meta that has been played this year and last year and they don't take as much as a map off cn or sk
exactly
yzn best player all time
I am robot beep boop
korea wins if they sign not sparkle and someone
Tbh I wouldnβt say Korea was consistent this World Cup
Proper, merit, checkmate, someone, and team would be better
Damn youβre still talking about about KSA weeks later?
Thought we moved on
You don't win 3 maps without significant amount of consistency
I think you are all coping, understandable since the Saudi victory was so shocking
Also if china and Korea were consistent they would win world cup
I donβt think people understand that only being good at dive meta is a skill issue. Youβre not good on sigma? Thatβs legit your fault
Chazm is super awesome, another plus for Europe region is allowing one tricks which end up with very interesting matches
They do understand that but they choose to ignore it when they speak about Saudis for obvious reasons, ofc in professional esport you have to adapt to meta and teams who claim to be best in the world should already be better at it
Some people canβt stop hating if Iβm being honest.
Yup but they will have one entire year of being triggered, enough punishment for them lol
Damn thatβs tough
bro i moved on while these ksa fans still talking about world cup π go read chats before even talking
bro ksa winning 1 world cup doesnt make them good
unless ksa gets 3world cups in a row with 3different rosters, they will never be on korea lvl
Beating China in world cup doesn't make you good ?
no
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one tournament in one meta
What does make you good then ?
if ksa win anything outside of sigma poke then they can be considered good
no dominance
Oh wow so it depend on the results?
not to mention the countless biffed ultimates from ksaa and majed that almost cost them the entire series
they beat nerfed korea
What happened to the super human owl players who can never lose ?
that doesnt mean usa is good
Oh they got rolled on live stream
bro did u not read what i wrote
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i said shock cant win every fight π
exactly
ksa fans with little knowledge π
Shock win most fights at its peak, they didn't lose finals with reverse sweep against contenders team
them celebrating 1 world cup is too cute π₯Ί
my guy can't even count 3-2 is never a roll in any circumstance lmao
they did 2022 π
go watch owl first
and talk
They lost the match
only 1match
Result is irrelevant, victory is all that matter
it's almost as if he didn't even watch the match and can't comment on the events that occurred in a detailed fashion
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what a fake saudi fan
I watched China owl players get rolled by Saudis
You are just triggered cause china lost
one fight away from a different result
im not triggered
I saw saudi players do insane shit against China owl players
that's like saying
Outplaying them every match
2020 Houston Outlaws was better than 2020 Florida Mayhem
because they won one singular match in one singular meta
exactly
yes
exactly my point
They didn't win entire final m8
someone who understands
or that 2022 Defiant was better than Gladiators
or 2023 London was better than Atlanta
one single match does not define the entire talent of one team being objectively better than anofher
I think if a team who claim to be pro and lose to another team then without doubt the winning team is better which is why they won
you are not even reading what i am saying
you are stupid or narcissistic and this debate is wasting both of our times
by using ur logic ,korea is better than ksa cus sirmajed didnt qualify in owl and korean team won the finals
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yes
What how is this my logic ? Sir majed didn't have rest of Saudi team with him
one saudi > zero saudi though surely
u can also look at houston outlaws vs twisted minds
also saudi had lots of coaches while china had half a coach
i think thats a big difference especially while playing off meta
fearless vs 4 saudi owwc roster, guess what happened? fearless bullied them 2-1
If he did after world cup we can clearly say had there been owl this season and Saudi team participated, then they would get top 3 postions without doubt
That's not a final
6th place
at best
not to mention the first map they lost outlaws were running Shu lucio
no one cares if its final or not
If that's true they wouldn't win world cup
china had coaches during season but not during world cup
final is basically how u got there meeting shit coach teams or easy eu teams
and korea trolled
while korea china usa is one side
Finals are best of 3 and all teams ofc care about finals and play best in it
Dude now claim any match is like finals
He was playing alone ?
korean gatekept saudi from even making finals that is the point
saudi was not even good enough to make it to finals because they lost
that is the whole point
He was playing alone ?
they only got one good meta
and china were playing a different composition to the meta and took a ksa that had perfected said meta to one fight territory
bro even proper cant beat 1v4
I thought dive is always the best and mean automatic victory
bro does NOT read the patch notes
read this again
Take it deep, 8 years of Europe rush experience
Cope
that's cool and all but love is love
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owl dead
You can't win overwatch game without diffing the other team m8, you are clearly coping now, literally when a team start winning everyone say the other side hit diffed, the fact that you are trying to deny it cause if china lose in wc is hilarious
Aka "I'm biased"
Thanks for admiting
ofc u gotta kill enemies to win the war π€π΅π΅π΅π΅π΅π΅
how is that bias
spread love not hate πΈπ¦π³οΈβπ
Kill enemies ?
im glad i joined back to watch this
You can't even acknowledge saudi victory
where did i say that
bro is gaslighting now π
You should seek mental help
Read your comments above
victory in one meta does not make any team the greatest in the world
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You said its only due to meta
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it is
it is
and also an access to coaching diff
but that's not taking away their victory in this meta
Omg another cope
saying they are the best at EVERYTHING because they won ONE meta
ksa with that korean coach buff go brr

