esports-discussion

[keen abyss]

are you defecting from your lord and godking chiyo

[tropic herald]

I always liked Chorong more he was just on Toronto

[robust patio]

well hes mayhem now

[keen abyss]

think of the chiyo gif

[feral zodiac]

Forgot about choisehwan

[tropic herald]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/900724637896433744/1121762420101218354/IMG_0365.gif

[feral zodiac]

What happened to cr0ng btw

[robust patio]

violated.

[tropic herald]

One season wonder

[keen abyss]

overrated one season couldn’t keep up when his team got worse and playstyle became out of favor

[feral zodiac]

Sadge

[keen abyss]

lost shu

no more hypercarry he couldn’t just pocket the goat anymore

[feral zodiac]

Shubidoobidoobadoobido

[static pond]

What rak team btw?

[keen abyss]

the media doesn’t want you to know this but cr0ng wasn’t even a top 3 sig that year

[feral zodiac]

I agree

Choi, Void, Fury

[keen abyss]

you got the order wrong

[static pond]

Tbh I confuse crong for a ms

[tropic herald]

streets remember s3 void

[robust patio]

Build Your Team Only spending $14
Fluff
emoji:flair-fluff:
$5 Lip Proper Someone Fielder Violet

$4 Mer1t Kevster Guxue Shu Chiyo

$3 Happy Leave Fearless Rupal Leejaegon

$2 Hydron Backbone Hadi Mmonk Chorong

$1 Seeker Whoru Marvel Ultraviolet Sirmajed

$0.50 Jay3 Gale Flats Karq Aspen

i said Someone Happy Leave Mmonk UV

[keen abyss]

there is another sig who won a title this year who has not been mentioned interesting

[feral zodiac]

I forget names

Was it someone on Chengdu or smth

Or was it an NA team

Give hint

[keen abyss]

flats proper jay3 karq aspen

[robust patio]

weak

[keen abyss]

so proper can once again be a bottom 3 player on his team

[robust patio]

proper and his fans

[robust patio]

😂

[wispy yacht]

hydron backbone someone chiyo majed

[feral zodiac]

Lip, Fearless, Leave, Chorong, Shu

[static pond]

How is hydron worth more then seeker

[robust patio]

decebt

[tropic herald]

Guxue Leave Seeker Mmonk Chorong

[wispy yacht]

better player

[static pond]

At least seeker has a good hero

[feral zodiac]

Chorong for $2 is a steal

[static pond]

Real

[wispy yacht]

i didnt even see that 💀

[robust patio]

decent

[keen abyss]

fearless kevster seeker shu ch0r0ng

[feral zodiac]

No point even looking at the $1 and under players

[robust patio]

kevster?

[keen abyss]

I get to glaze both my goats

[feral zodiac]

None of them are good enough

[tropic herald]

Oh boy we got a glads fan

[robust patio]

😂

[tropic herald]

Leave my white boy hitscan goat alone

[keen abyss]

need to pick my boy

[robust patio]

loyal

[wispy yacht]

leave seeker someone chorong shu

[feral zodiac]

No, Asia number 1

[keen abyss]

shu and kev are my 2 favorite players my singular goal was to fit them both onto one team

wait I may be able to cook

[feral zodiac]

Kevster is overpriced

[robust patio]

mm o.o

[keen abyss]

wait it’s just going to be buh5’s list

[tropic herald]

https://images.blz-contentstack.com/v3/assets/blt321317473c90505c/blt77e7e06f9d620d32/6448536f13e90763ea6e0dca/Seeker_LDN_600x600.png?auto=webp

[feral zodiac]

Kevster for $4 but leave for 3 is crazy

[keen abyss]

bc mmonk ch0r0ng for $4

is actually just a steal

[tropic herald]

I had a vision

[robust patio]

true

i didnt make the shop

[wispy yacht]

chorong for 2 is wild bc he's literally a top 2 main support

[robust patio]

reddit did

[tropic herald]

Assuming they can just communicate

It’s best backline

[keen abyss]

both better than viol2t and cost less combined than him individually

[tropic herald]

For money

[feral zodiac]

Chorong and mmonk each worth half of LJG or Rupal is nuts

[keen abyss]

I went into this list thinking communication isn’t taken into account

[tropic herald]

Me too

[feral zodiac]

Fearless below Guxue is wild

[keen abyss]

since there is no excuse for guxue over fearless otherwise

[keen abyss]

doom

[tropic herald]

Fearless one trick

[keen abyss]

guxue is more proven on doom

[tropic herald]

Guxue two trick

[feral zodiac]

True

[keen abyss]

who doesn’t get eaten alive in surprise bastion meta

if this tournament takes place in Anaheim guxue also gets an insane power buff

[feral zodiac]

Idk why streamer violet is worth 5 dollars

[tropic herald]

Idk if leave deserves to be expensive but Idt I would put Kevin as more expensive

[tropic herald]

Also if we hire a few twinks to sit in the front row he will play out of his mind

[feral zodiac]

Power move, viol2t dps

[keen abyss]

mmonk chiyo shu fearless seeker whoru

is troll but funny

[feral zodiac]

Jay3, Flats, Lip, Fielder, Chorong

3vs5 24/7

[tropic herald]

Hadi Lip Leave Mmonk Chorong

[keen abyss]

viol2t being $5 while ch0r0ng who is just the same player but better at every hero but bap zen

is funny

[feral zodiac]

Tbf if it was rein meta

[tropic herald]

2 trophies

[wispy yacht]

viol2t got money

[keen abyss]

ch0r0ng is better brig lucio by far

and maybe better kiri

[robust patio]

idk either 😂 reddit made it

[static pond]

https://fxtwitter.com/torontodefiant/status/1722284472979120272?s=46

[keen abyss]

which is all viol2t played

[wispy yacht]

reddit is kinda stupid

[feral zodiac]

Viol2t is more expensive because you have to pay for his constant 1 match bans following ladder activities

[wispy yacht]

how they make chorong $2 is wild 😂😂

[robust patio]

i agree

but it was a fun task

😂

[tropic herald]

Us discordians are much less stupid

[robust patio]

🤣🤣

[wispy yacht]

i never want to be called that ever

[robust patio]

some ppl here says quartz > lip

😵

[reef seal]

seeker for 1 dollar

[tropic herald]

1st place better than 4th

[keen abyss]

I think someone leave mmonk ch0r0ng

is such a good base for a roster

[tropic herald]

[keen abyss]

but this list is such a hitscan drought

mer1t $4 is insane

[robust patio]

that proves nothing but ok

[keen abyss]

happy $3 is robbery

[tropic herald]

He was originally 1 dollar but he got a 3k collat so they raised his price

[keen abyss]

hydron being the next best option is depressing

where’s my $2 birdring option

[robust patio]

uv at 1$ is crazy too

[keen abyss]

nah that’s where he belongs

[feral zodiac]

Is lip a decent hitscan outside of sombra

[robust patio]

oops

[keen abyss]

mmonk is at $2

[tropic herald]

Quartz on top of the podium where’s lip

[wispy yacht]

malthel adds $2 to your budget

[robust patio]

yes

[keen abyss]

and is a top fs

[reef seal]

lip is insane

[feral zodiac]

Is $5 decent

[tropic herald]

Best itw

[feral zodiac]

Wait fr

I did not know this

[tropic herald]

He was just simply

[reef seal]

hes the best in the world at hitscan rn i agree

[feral zodiac]

Lip 100% in my team then

[tropic herald]

The best sojourn last year

[wispy yacht]

s4 and s5 he was hard carrying shanghai

[robust patio]

lip is almost proper lvl

[feral zodiac]

My 6'5 gamer king

[tropic herald]

Most hitscan are ass at one of them

Lip is solidly top 5 on all

[split flume]

Lip is to hitscan what proper is to flex imo

[wispy yacht]

proper can play hitscan and lip cant play flex

my glorious king wins

[tropic herald]

He also gaslit multiple teams into thinking Mei sombra was good

[keen abyss]

top 5 on all and can play other role to higher b tier minimum ?

[keen abyss]

didn’t lip show he can play echo tracer

[split flume]

Lip has a serviceable tracer

[keen abyss]

to a solid level

[robust patio]

https://youtube.com/shorts/WMleSnDILgI?si=V4eLxln5mUWvpxKD

watch till the end

[wispy yacht]

nah his tracer is elite

he just plays with other tracer players

so be never plays it

[keen abyss]

and doesn’t he play a lot of genji in his free time

I would be very surprised

[reef seal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/556150954374725662/1153775465975263274/3aa3c0f3c2ef3ab3.gif

[keen abyss]

if lip couldn’t play genji to above league average

[robust patio]

bros bouta fly

[wispy yacht]

echo is like the only flex he can play decently

[keen abyss]

100% wc winrate on genji

don’t wanna hear it

[tropic herald]

Why does he ever have to play not echo or tracer anyways

Not his job

He plays symm

He’s good at the silly heroes

Let him live

[keen abyss]

if you’re getting gapped by a homophobe on sym it’s joever

[robust patio]

if blizzard didnt change meta and didnt rework sombra, korea would easily doninat

[tropic herald]

If I speak I will be in big trouble

[keen abyss]

actually I don’t know if youbi is homophobic

[wispy yacht]

nah korea is just ass

[robust patio]

lip would be emping fin and ksa every millisecond

[keen abyss]

was that sombra rework patch

I swear sombra rework was same patch as bastion nerf

[wispy yacht]

sombra got nerfed anyways before rework

cant farm emp every fight

[robust patio]

he liked it

that way

he doesnt like the new sombra

blizzard only way of nerfing korea ig with that 5month term 💀

[wispy yacht]

if they went hard hitscan meta i guarantee you they do worse

[robust patio]

dive meta

[wispy yacht]

sp9 is doing air in a double sniper meta

[robust patio]

true

hes ass

but fearless winton and lip sombra

would carry

easily

[wispy yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-cheeseburger-wrap-fast-job-gif-22767450

sp9 if he doesnt play tracer or genji

[reef seal]

sparkle is ASS

[keen abyss]

if he can force genji into this

it’s possible

[robust patio]

proper genji would be dope

thats how he got his mvp

[keen abyss]

proper would be ass on team Korea

[robust patio]

better than sp

[keen abyss]

proper can only perform with shit rosters

[robust patio]

😵

[tropic herald]

Proper boosted once so he can’t be on rush’s korea

[robust patio]

ik

i said if

its sad tho

we cant see proper lip duo

even in owwc 2024

[wispy yacht]

my ideal kr team is
proper
proper
someone
proper
viol2t

[keen abyss]

shu instead of viol2t

[wispy yacht]

viol2t has two rings

[robust patio]

my ideal team is
flow3r
flow3r
flow3r
jjonak
jjonak

[keen abyss]

shu is less susceptible to money

you can’t pay him off for free wins

[robust patio]

flow3r has the most hero wide pool in ow history

[keen abyss]

viol2t accepted money from rush

to fumble 2022 for shock

someone sig
proper bastion/sj
proper sym
proper illari
shu bap

wins wc

[robust patio]

yes

now u agree someone sig is good

[keen abyss]

someone can swap if he gets countered

to Reinhardt

the easiest hero in the game

[robust patio]

yes

easiest hero is 76

[keen abyss]

then you can play someone rein proper sym proper mei proper lucio shu bap

[robust patio]

or flow3r flow3r flow3r jjonak jjonak

would also win wc

[keen abyss]

fumbles outside of ana zen

and ana zen is abusable

[robust patio]

he carried with hog

in owwc 2017

2018*

[keen abyss]

also how is rupal $4

[robust patio]

i didnt make that

[keen abyss]

and mmonk is $2

[robust patio]

dont blame me

[keen abyss]

mmonk is arguably the best ana in the world

[safe valley]

lets go dude

[keen abyss]

rupal is a strong bap esp under the Florida system

but still not best bap in the world

[robust patio]

currently yes, but in ow history idk

hed be in top 10 for sure tho

[safe valley]

ML7 on the top

[keen abyss]

wait rupal was 3

[safe valley]

best ana

[keen abyss]

I misremembered

[robust patio]

not even on top 10

[safe valley]

ofc

[keen abyss]

no he has a point

how many nade lineup 200 ping sleep flick montages have you seen from shu or mmonk or twilight

or f*elder

[safe valley]

none

[keen abyss]

fr

[safe valley]

frfr

[keen abyss]

their only accolades are playing ‘well’ in a scripted league

they’d never survive the terrors of eu ranked

[robust patio]

1. Ryu
2. Twilight
3. jjonak
4. Shu
5. Alarm
6. mmonk
7. Gale adelade
8. Crimzo
9. Kariv
10. Izayaki

thats my list(only at their prime btw)

[reef seal]

number 7

😭

[robust patio]

ml7 would be around 16th ish

[wispy yacht]

source?

[keen abyss]

is twilight’s prime a real thing or is this a mass gaslighting

[robust patio]

not many ppl know him, but hes an ana goat in ow1

[reef seal]

hes not that good man

I know him

[robust patio]

hm whats ur top 10 ana

[robust patio]

🤣

[reef seal]

I will only count OWL/Korean contenders players in top 10 all time

[keen abyss]

rapid inting in grand finals

for both summer showdown and playoffs

[wispy yacht]

but he got money tho

[keen abyss]

he is a dps ranked goblin who also plays ana

[robust patio]

ah tell me ur too 3

[keen abyss]

from rush

as prior stated

[wispy yacht]

no

[reef seal]

ngl I only watched last szn of OWL and season 1

[wispy yacht]

from his two rings

[robust patio]

oh

[reef seal]

I've seen everyone but ryu

[keen abyss]

crimzo top 8 is extremely funny

I am a big fielder doubter but crimzo making the list over him

is funny as fuck

also like

when the fuck was twilight’s prime

he didn’t play ana in 2019 because zen jail

followed by moira jail

[robust patio]

oh shoot

i forgot fielder

[keen abyss]

he was benched half the time in 2020 and the like one ana meta that year had a super team around him

peak Smurf choi

[robust patio]

2023

thats his prime

[keen abyss]

was benched in the other ana meta that year for viol2t zen

2021 was a shit year for that whole team and didn’t see much ana play

2022 he was mid

[robust patio]

whos ur top 5

[keen abyss]

2023 he was good but not top tier

[robust patio]

id say 2018 2023 was his prime

[keen abyss]

I’m not a good person to ask this I will just say shu #1

I am a shu gigaglazer

[robust patio]

u r like @vale cobalt

but hes muted

[keen abyss]

don’t compare me to him

ever

please

[robust patio]

why why

[keen abyss]

he is a creature

[robust patio]

🤔

everyone is

[reef seal]

rip ana

[keen abyss]

idk man shu alarm jjonak fielder twilight is a basic ass list but I’ll throw it together

because I can’t be bothered to think right now

[robust patio]

no prime ryu

is crazy

[keen abyss]

was it an ana meta when fielder stayed up until 5 am on extreme ping across an ocean to win an insane set and then passed out

or was that genji meta

[robust patio]

search “goats of overwatch history”

[keen abyss]

the bap one

[robust patio]

ull see

ryu

[keen abyss]

this was 2017-2018

when competition was much lower

but it was also a phase that I just have no experience with

so I can’t comment much on it

[robust patio]

it was more competitive

💀

this is can confirm

as a real og

[keen abyss]

that doesn’t mean they were better

[robust patio]

prime ryu was really insane

[keen abyss]

a competition can be more competitive because everyone is equally as bad

[robust patio]

he slept every single owwc genji ult

agility shadowburn etc

every genji ult

[robust patio]

ow1 is way harder than ow 2

ow1 master is like gm in ow2 for sure

[keen abyss]

s4 owl was the highest level of competition

mid s4 owl teams would’ve won s1

[keen abyss]

that is literally

just because of how rank distribution works

1% stays 1%

despite how much you change the sample size

[rugged quest]

pussy

[keen abyss]

if ow had 100 players 1 person would be gm

[robust patio]

masters was not 1% but ok

[keen abyss]

if ow had 1,000,000,000 players 1,000,000 players would be gm

overwatch 2 dramatically increased the playerbase size

so more players entered that 1%

[robust patio]

na ow died

[keen abyss]

who said master was 1%

[robust patio]

peak ow beat league of legends

[robust patio]

this

also beginning of ow2

many high ranks were placed

lower

[keen abyss]

if gm is set to be the 1% of highest ranked overwatch players

then if you increase the playerbase size by 10x

then you increase the number of gm slots by 10x

so the previous master players

will automatically be pushed up to gm

that’s just how statistics works

[robust patio]

even if stat is correct, it doesnt matter. the rank system is way different

it was so difficult to get masters in ow1

in ow2 u can get masters in 6hrs

[keen abyss]

because there are so many more gold and silver players now

[robust patio]

btw ive gotten gm3in 8hrs

with my alt

[keen abyss]

who are just worse at the game

[robust patio]

that ez

[keen abyss]

master was shit in early seasons of ow1

a season 3 master in ow1 would struggle in current master

having a higher playerbase means master will be easier

because there will be more shit players

[robust patio]

season 5 above

[keen abyss]

inflating the mid ranks

[robust patio]

season 4 below is basically game in development 💀

although i played in season 1 all the way

[keen abyss]

I would’ve hit gm in pre season 10 ow

in my current state

I peaked low master ow1

[robust patio]

100%

[keen abyss]

it’s just how rank distribution works in ow

[robust patio]

back to my point

[keen abyss]

since the average player is put in gold

[robust patio]

ow1 szn5> was harder to rank up

[keen abyss]

and with more players the average player will be worse

[robust patio]

then current

[keen abyss]

above average players can be bad and still be put in plat/diamond

so the decent players will beat them and go to master

[robust patio]

yes

ofc

🤔

[keen abyss]

it isn’t a matter of ow2 being a fundamentally easier game

it’s a product of the ranked system inflating the ranks with a higher playerbase

[robust patio]

that statement

i can agree yes

[keen abyss]

you could argue 6v6 was easier

because you had another player to rely on

with another tank on the field the solo tank has less of a burden

and gets punished less for mistakes

[robust patio]

not arguing that

[keen abyss]

I don’t think it’s a good argument

bc 6v6 had a much higher skill ceiling

but it’s certainly arguable

flex supports can do more in 5v5 individually though

[robust patio]

kor 2018: 4tanks 1dps 1sup -> winning owwc

jjonak on hog too

[keen abyss]

since there’s no longer an off tank hard mitigating their value

[robust patio]

not sup 😵

[keen abyss]

or multiple tank bodies to have to heal

quad tank limits the skill ceiling of supp

since it becomes so healing oriented

[robust patio]

not much healing when koreans end the fight in 10sec

🤣

[keen abyss]

and you have dva zar rein peel

[keen abyss]

was this mei meta

wait moira was def in the game 2018

was quad tank not moira lucio

[robust patio]

my bad it was 3tanks 2dps 1sup

jjonak having fun

weird comp

but it works

imma sleep

its 2am in korea

[left vortex]

goodbye overwatch league

[heavy cliff]

yk what would be a better comp?

5dps

and a mercy otp

The best comp in overwatch

[weary scarab]

is this true guys?

[mortal cipher]

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/YiskaOut/status/1722319153560719799?t=yWLaBYgaPpvjC-Uinpz6bA&s=19

Let's goo

[mortal cipher]

Let’s see

[weak frost]

no i'm pretty sure youbi said that china was the only team that beat them in scrims

wait i cant read

and yeah people tried to get ksa players banned after cloudy got banned, kinda weird that youbi (or lbbd cant remember for sure) didnt get banned for worse than what cloudy said (multiple instances of telling ghost (a literal underage kid) to kill himself)

and one was banned for calling people the n word in ranked

[hard forge]

Not sure whether to cry for the past and what will become of all teams everyone loves, or to be hopeful for the future of overwatch and the former league players

I'm going to miss the Overwatch League terribly

[feral zodiac]

Most of it is pure speculation

[hard forge]

I am still not very sure why it failed.

[feral zodiac]

?

It failed because it was ridiculously expensive + shoehorned into the scene

And overwatch has one of the absolute worst path to pro scenes in esports

[hard forge]

Shoehorned?

[hard forge]

??

[terse echo]

I just went to an esports event in scotland and it was overwatch and it was pretty cool tbf

[mortal cipher]

Franchising kinda put thrm@in a hole

[feral zodiac]

Franchising league funded by blizzard

With absolutely insane operating costs

And even more insane costs to get a place in the league

Alongside heavily limiting prize pools of ALL none owl overwatch esports

I think the max allowed was like 2,000 dollars?

And the buy in for a single team initially was like 10 million dollars

And latter teams were 20 million

Which the league never had any chance in hell of making profitable

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/TEAdvocated/status/1722340657375691095?t=pvO_SvZMn4nJBTsG2xChqQ&s=19

[rugged quest]

good day for t1 overwatch

[static pond]

https://fxtwitter.com/nyexcelsior/status/1722362854823625025?s=46

[icy cedar]

Oh ana got muted F

[rugged quest]

can you read dm

[tawdry hamlet]

https://twitter.com/Crimzo/status/1722297931439669743?t=aKbMQxDPCRWK-OEczByxjw&s=19

[static pond]

https://fxtwitter.com/gzcharge/status/1722379538645107082?s=46

[mortal cipher]

[stoic bronze]

Did charge leave the league?

[robust patio]

everyone will leave

no point of whos leaving first or last 😂

[stoic bronze]

Ye I saw on atps vid

[robust patio]

🫡🫡

[tiny pollen]

i wonder if the teams will be asble to keep using their branding

[robust patio]

@mortal cipher @reef seal @static pond @tawdry hamlet @rugged quest @feral zodiac

imagine if he joins hamster

proper+lip duo

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/SirMajed9/status/1722428603965620554?t=tm1QA0mbOmM5tHEh5Go6OA&s=19

[robust patio]

why he doing 🏆🏆

when they only won one 💀💀💀

[sullen berry]

Oh yeah

There was no OWWC mvp

Not enough sponsors

[robust patio]

i wanna see lip proper duo

[tidal marsh]

Guys when's flashops?

Nvm found out, November 11th

[robust patio]

👍

[heavy scroll]

[hard forge]

Flashops gonna be on twitch?

The contenders amd playoverwatch ones?

[balmy wolf]

So blizzard is currently on talks with WDG esports from france, ESL FACEIT Group from Germany and SEA from Saudi Arabia

Guess they will need ton of time and overwatch esport would be delayed for a while

[hazy gorge]

Since I have 1065 owl tokens do I buy brig mayhem or I save up?

[weary talon]

This sounds so good actually

[stray quarry]

who is that in ur pfp

[weary talon]

Guxue

[stray quarry]

do u have more

[weary talon]

Lol

Yes

I cant find more

[stray quarry]

dw i gotchu

ignore mano that mf

[hard forge]

why is guxue a pretty princess dayum

high quality cosplay

[slate siren]

Bro the future of OW e sports is in KSA

Shy already going KSA

and I bet more will follow

[uncut drum]

Only na and EU will go na

Kr and China will go WDG

Closer to home.

[hot onyx]

goat of main tank and crossdressing

[robust patio]

wdg the goat

[robust patio]

yzn

scared

[robust patio]

also is that flashops

or saudi league

[reef seal]

cursed

getting the bag tho

[rugged quest]

saudi league

you cant play for other regions in flashops

eu flash ops rosters

[hard forge]

@weary talon spectra on falcons??? Ooooo i liked that kid he was pretty good on echo

Singlehandedly carried toronto midfiant

I was wondering why i didnt see him yet xD he's with falcons!

[static pond]

https://fxtwitter.com/socutelip/status/1722508144163914114?s=46

[robust patio]

legend

[robust patio]

not Lip deleting the tweet cus lip is kind and ksa fans are coming at him for “disrespecting” saudi e league

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[hard forge]

How is that disrespectful at all lmao

So anyone who gets asked to play for a league they were never close to should immediagely accept or else theyre insulting?

He deleted it, poor thing

[reef seal]

cant believe hes forced to delete it

[heavy cliff]

thats some bullshit

[robust patio]

shouldve fought back 😡

[reef seal]

Real

[plush grail]

must be hard for lip

he's korean but was in na for most of his ow career

now that hes kinda used to na

he's being asked to go to sa

a whole different region with a different culture and such

[robust patio]

thats not the problem, him declining saudi league is his choice

[icy cedar]

Lip my baby

[robust patio]

not an insult to saudi league

[balmy wolf]

Wtf all of korea moved to Saudi league

[reef seal]

tbh taht will happen if Saudi becomes the T1 league

then you'll see fully KR rosters

unless there is a requirement to have a saudi arabian on the team

idk how the rules work in it

[balmy wolf]

Lip probably have wrong image about life in Saudi Arabia

[reef seal]

it's a much different culture than KR

Is my guess

[static pond]

Ya much different

[reef seal]

lots of ppl aren't comfortable with that

unless its the only t1 league

[static pond]

Most Koreans are doing flash ops apac

[reef seal]

yeah saw that

sad to see mayhem splitting up tho

[balmy wolf]

Damn one is playing b
But not yzn

Wtf

[static pond]

Imo it much easer to adapt to American life style if your Korean

[reef seal]

is yzn banned from t2 now?

[balmy wolf]

All koreans said its awesome and enjoyed it in general, Saudis are very welcoming and hospitable but yea general views in most of the world that they are conservative and hateful

[static pond]

No

I think he dodging

[balmy wolf]

I'm not sure tbh, he is banned for a year but we don't know what that include, one was banned from world cup apparently but he is in contenders now

[reef seal]

I see

Fair enough

[balmy wolf]

Hadi used to play in twisted minds

[reef seal]

I wonder how the salaries are like

[robust patio]

yzn is banned

[reef seal]

in the league

[robust patio]

for a year

[reef seal]

Ah

[robust patio]

cloudy banned for 6month

[static pond]

Not just there aleady issues with there league mostly around not paying couple of there contenders players

[reef seal]

💀

[robust patio]

that would be lol or else koreans would dominate

[balmy wolf]

Ohhh yea I heard about this with couple of players but i don't know details

[reef seal]

yep

[balmy wolf]

Saudi football league have this requirement

[robust patio]

😵

[reef seal]

ye ik about saudi football

[balmy wolf]

So maybe same with esport

[reef seal]

ye thats what I thought

could be a possibility

[balmy wolf]

Wait a minute I'm dumb, Saudi e league have nothing to do with contenders which is why one is playing

But why yzn isn't?

[robust patio]

he is scared

[static pond]

There legit top tier hs

[balmy wolf]

I don't know but I want to see him play against owl hitscans

[static pond]

And shy is there

[robust patio]

cus if yzn fans see yzb getting bullied

it would hurt

his ego

[reef seal]

He will get farmed if he plays vs koreans

[robust patio]

“get clipped” is the word

[static pond]

Forcing phara doesn’t work in owl

[balmy wolf]

Yea but it would be interesting

[static pond]

Contenders teams tried and got destroyed

[robust patio]

yzn getting bullied would be on youtube on tiktok on reddit on twitter

then all yzn fans

[reef seal]

Would be funny to the rest of us

[robust patio]

would be gone

[balmy wolf]

Twister minds will probably win in this meta though

[reef seal]

Not vs mayhem roster

[balmy wolf]

Plus most other saudi players only played in saudi league

[static pond]

There a huge gap between contenders players and owl players

Unless your Korea

[robust patio]

twisted vs f16 would be awesome

[static pond]

They don’t count

[balmy wolf]

Legendary is also not there, he used to play in saudi league, maybe one ban was less cause he said n word only ?

[reef seal]

think he should be perma banned considering he asked players for accs on stream which is against TOS

[robust patio]

ask yzn to play

i wanna see him play against korea

[balmy wolf]

Smurfing is against tos too

All streamers do it

So blizzard don't care really

[robust patio]

i wanna see yzn vs lip

[balmy wolf]

I didn't watch him for a while, maybe I should check him out

[robust patio]

or yzn vs merit

[reef seal]

smurfing isn’t against TOS

what’s against TOS is boosting

you’re allowed to have alt accounts

[balmy wolf]

Oh damn

[static pond]

You just wanna see yzn get destroyed

[robust patio]

yes

[reef seal]

Like if you’re solo queueing climbing that isn’t boosting, if you get random players

[balmy wolf]

Btw Anyone knows what happened to proper ?

[robust patio]

bro needs to be humbled with his ego with top 10 acc on top10

💀

[static pond]

He in flash ops

[reef seal]

wdym

[static pond]

Team hamster

[balmy wolf]

Like where is he ?

[robust patio]

hamster

[reef seal]

he wasn’t in OWWC

[static pond]

With Dallas dps line with stalker proper

[reef seal]

bc he boosted beforehand

[balmy wolf]

Oh nice

[reef seal]

And koreans really hate that

[static pond]

Because rush is ass

[robust patio]

fearless proper stalker chio fielder hanbin

[reef seal]

That’s an insane team

[static pond]

I hate rush

[robust patio]

yes

[reef seal]

rush and sparkle both threw world cup for KR

[robust patio]

sp and rush threw

[static pond]

I hold hate after picking Sparkie over pelican and stalker

[robust patio]

i wanna see yzn vs merit

[reef seal]

Real

[vale cobalt]

OMG

IM BACK

[static pond]

Oh

No

[robust patio]

why is only like 6 koreans

[reef seal]

although pelican is 0-8 in grand finals maps

[static pond]

I mean

[robust patio]

in saudi

[static pond]

Hi

[reef seal]

tbf

[robust patio]

league

[vale cobalt]

HI

[reef seal]

pelican not a big game player 💀

[robust patio]

lost reg but nice

[vale cobalt]

guys i saw some interesting comments while i was muted

[robust patio]

hm

[vale cobalt]

the thing is

flashops will be fun :)))

[reef seal]

looks like it

lots of good players

[vale cobalt]

eu winner: srpeakcheck

easy

cloudy coaching too omg

that team is unbeatable

[robust patio]

vestola team

also strong

[balmy wolf]

Same

[reef seal]

the one thing I wanted to see

was yzn vs cloudy

but unfortunately it did not occur

[vale cobalt]

vestola plays for srpeakcheck

after flashops

:))

[vale cobalt]

both banned

[reef seal]

I know

but would have been comedy to see them duke it out over LAN

[vale cobalt]

oh btw guys

why cant i see

saudi elague rosters

[balmy wolf]

Anyone have flash obs teams

[vale cobalt]

on liqupedia

[robust patio]

shy

nice

[balmy wolf]

Probably not updated

[vale cobalt]

https://fxtwitter.com/Starburst_OW/status/1722399226913607881?s=20

[robust patio]

where is leave

[reef seal]

Landon lol

[reef seal]

Good question

maybe he joins shy

[vale cobalt]

old srpeakcheck staff

spongey former srpeakcheck coach

eis former tank

[robust patio]

f16 vs twisted would be fun

[vale cobalt]

i cant see them

on my own

i know this sc

https://fxtwitter.com/sungwoo_OW/status/1722550894049567061?s=20

https://fxtwitter.com/R0MSTREAMS/status/1722571218111569943?s=20

LOL

[balmy wolf]

Can someone explain regions ?

Is each flash ops different

Or will they play together?

[vale cobalt]

eu plays eu

na plays na

apac plays jpn thailand korea

[robust patio]

no

if they do, isohan will dominate

[vale cobalt]

not really

[robust patio]

korean teams would dominate

no ones denying that

[vale cobalt]

srpeakcheck wins it all

[robust patio]

😵

[vale cobalt]

remember finland > korea

😎

[robust patio]

finland has 0 world cups tho

still shocked how sweden didn’t qualify

[static pond]

Fearless not beating the Winston one trick allegations

[vale cobalt]

shush we don't talk about that

[vale cobalt]

doesnt matter :))

[robust patio]

😵

[vale cobalt]

he played doom?

[robust patio]

fearless is not a winton one trick

lol

[static pond]

It’s

A

Joke

[robust patio]

😵

[vale cobalt]

sureee

[robust patio]

cant believe this comp on owwc 2018

1 sup 💀 they really needed korea to be nerfed

[balmy wolf]

Wait why 3 tanks

[robust patio]

cus jjonak wants to have fun

[static pond]

Jjonak hog god

[vale cobalt]

xdddddd

[static pond]

Jjonak hog was so fun

[robust patio]

and none of other countries were in jjonak lvl

skill

[balmy wolf]

Insane hogs were fun

[vale cobalt]

thoughts on 2022 mikeyy

[robust patio]

idk contenders na

or is he collegiate

idk

only guy i know is s9mm

used to be owl shock

[vale cobalt]

💀

u dont know mikeyy?

2022 grand finals

[robust patio]

😵

[static pond]

He was bench no?

[vale cobalt]

kinda

[static pond]

For being a weirdo on twitter

[robust patio]

they lost to dallas

so

🤷‍♀️

[vale cobalt]

💀

[robust patio]

damn

[static pond]

He pretty much was being a creep I think

I forgot

[robust patio]

imagine if aspire wasnt a creep

would usa beat ksa

[static pond]

He’s a pedo

[robust patio]

creep=pedo

[static pond]

Mik wast a pedo just a creep

[robust patio]

ait ait let me reword

if aspire wasnt a ped would usa beat ksa

[static pond]

Kinda crazy

Na fall from grace

[reef seal]

No

USA isn’t good

[static pond]

Hydron there best hs lmao

[reef seal]

KSA is better

[robust patio]

yes

why

cus gator is

ass

[vale cobalt]

okay

can we blame gator now

i didnt blame him when he was on reign

but after usa i have to u know

[static pond]

?

[vale cobalt]

i felt bad for him

everyone was so furious

now i dont

[static pond]

Tbh gator spoke a lot of truth

But he always gave off coaches don’t do anything attitude

[balmy wolf]

Funny how everyone is more excited and more names are in the table after overwatch league got cancelled, I was the only one saying it was a good thing

[static pond]

Which that wast true but he had good takes on players tho imo

[static pond]

? More names there like all the same players

From Korea

[balmy wolf]

Hope new format don't get fucked up and we get this world cup level shit each year

[balmy wolf]

Many people are excited for Europe one too, finland vs ksa rivalry

[static pond]

And some from na and eu

[vale cobalt]

@robust patio https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchkr

what is this

any good players?

[robust patio]

i think its a streamer bs streamer

this is normal korean t500 players

[vale cobalt]

oh okay

[robust patio]

WAIT

NO

THAT MEI IN BLUE TEAM

IS FAMOUS

[vale cobalt]

name?

the mei i know???

[robust patio]

NO

[plush grail]

that korean mei otp?

[robust patio]

THE MEI TOPD U ABOUT

YA

[vale cobalt]

xdd

[robust patio]

HES 김재원

[vale cobalt]

💀

[robust patio]

known for his MEI EMOTE

https://youtube.com/@kimjaewonworld?si=W5uOFPja_7sYfnFM

[vale cobalt]

lol

[robust patio]

his mei is insane

[vale cobalt]

bro missed every shot and died

💀

wait hes pharah?

[robust patio]

no hes cass

now

[vale cobalt]

bro

that guy missed every shot and died

hows his mei insane

[robust patio]

washed

[vale cobalt]

ikr

[robust patio]

he was crazy in ow1

mei

[vale cobalt]

i see

[robust patio]

insane

cass

[vale cobalt]

bro pressed q

[robust patio]

😵

the cast

is funny af

host

🤣

imma watch youtube now

[vale cobalt]

lool

[robust patio]

@vale cobalt @static pond @reef seal @uncut drum @heavy cliff

i talked to lip about the tweet

he says let them be mad

such a goat

and be like 👎

[vale cobalt]

wow

[uncut drum]

What tweet

I missed something

[vale cobalt]

@uncut drum

he deleted this after getting hate comments

[uncut drum]

Fuck that ksa fans are stupid

[vale cobalt]

u will be muted be careful

😳

[uncut drum]

I don't care

[vale cobalt]

fair

[uncut drum]

Why are you giving the guy hate

[vale cobalt]

cuz u know

[uncut drum]

Dude just said no

[vale cobalt]

for the reason i can't say

:))

https://fxtwitter.com/ProfitOW/status/1722525690963370098?s=20

:))))))

https://fxtwitter.com/Twilight_OW/status/1722551696210133357?s=20

https://fxtwitter.com/ProfitOW/status/1722553201285906536?s=20

LOOOL

profring

[robust patio]

he said this and ksa fans got mad for “disrespecting” saudi league

💀

its ok for ksa fans to say yznsa declined owl, but not lip declining saudi league 😵😵😵😵😵

[vale cobalt]

bro said i dont want to play it's normal its not mandatory lol

[robust patio]

btw lip is streaming

ana rn

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/LittleKnightG/status/1722597789161619459?t=b9Qo5icfofwqrFizUAcFVA&s=19

[robust patio]

most dmg on ana rn

[vale cobalt]

LOL

did he talk about the tweet?

15/2 soj game for my goat lip

i dedicate this win to him

[robust patio]

he says

hell play 1 sup

and play dps

[vale cobalt]

oh

[reef seal]

GOAT

[vale cobalt]

i have 3.51 sens on soj with 800 dpi :<

@robust patiolove lip's playlist

very good songs

do u know the playlist he uses

sugarfree is on chat lol

he gave him mod insta lool chadddd

[robust patio]

he says proper is not on flashosp?

[uncut drum]

Me who plays on 3600 dpi and 7.46 sens

For most hs

But widow is on 40 sens with 2600 DPS

Dpi

[vale cobalt]

love sniping widows on soj

[robust patio]

lip thought

smurf

was a rando

[vale cobalt]

huhhh

[vale cobalt]

xddd

[robust patio]

he was like why is this rando

saying

duo?

[vale cobalt]

holy

[robust patio]

and saw it again and it was smurf

[uncut drum]

Lol

I need to start relearning Korean

I should next year

[vale cobalt]

huhhh

[uncut drum]

I stopped like 3 years ago and I need to get back into it again

[vale cobalt]

me first

[robust patio]

ig no proper in flashops?

idk why lip said there is no proper

in flashpps

[vale cobalt]

huhhh

[uncut drum]

Lol

[robust patio]

@vale cobalt @uncut drum @reef seal @static pond

lip said

lip was invited to shy spot

but declined

[vale cobalt]

wow

wheres mmonk lengsa

so good duo

incredible individual players

@robust patio they join lip's stream to defend saudi league wow

[robust patio]

😂

[reef seal]

is he actually getting harassed for decking it

declining*

[slate siren]

will flash ops be streamed somewhere?

on twitch

[rugged quest]

The common concensus in this channel was that owl going under is ultimately a positive thing

youre far from alone in that

As soon as the 6million payout was published people were saying that here

[rugged quest]

Nah some saudi fans took the tweet as disrespect, him declining alone doesnt matter to anyone

If you tweet anything somewhat negative about ksa your twitter gets flooded by "yznsa is your unkle" type shit

[vale cobalt]

ppl join his twitch and say dont disrespect saudi league

💀

[reef seal]

those fans have 0 concept on reality

Imma be real

[uncut drum]

Lol

[uncut drum]

This is explains most of this shit

[stray quarry]

woahhh shy going to saudi e league?

is his contract with bilibili over I thought he was moving to the val academy team

[robust patio]

that shy spot

was Lip

but lip declined

so shy takes that spot

LOL LIP SAID ON STREAM, HE SAID WE LOST CUS OF SPARKLE 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 @reef seal @heavy cliff @vale cobalt @uncut drum @static pond

[reef seal]

LOL

[vale cobalt]

he knows too

[reef seal]

everyone knows

[vale cobalt]

sparkle hard inted bro

[reef seal]

HE DID

[vale cobalt]

as much as i like finland

i need to say that

sparkle gifted finland the victory

and hanbin's jq pick

awful stuff

[reef seal]

😂😭😭😭😭😭

[robust patio]

Lip said if he ever joins flashops he wanted a team be like fearless izayaki lip leejaegon fleta

@vale cobalt @vale cobalt @reef seal

[reef seal]

Holy

[vale cobalt]

oh god

hollyyt

FLETA TANK

🤣

[robust patio]

fleta as dps

ofc

😵

[vale cobalt]

thank god