esports-discussion

[robust patio]

idk if saudi league is gonna be fun

[reef seal]

Lmfaooo

wtf

[reef seal]

if the teams are good itll be fine assuming theres good production

Imo

the problem with saudi football league is that no one watches them lol

in comparison to the big europeana leagues

[robust patio]

thats the thing

if 1ronaldo joins

no ons watching

if multiple ronaldo joins

ppl will watch

[weary talon]

Wait

What is flash ops

When is it

[robust patio]

secret

jk it happens on 11/11

for non americans 11/11

[weary talon]

Oh i was a bit confused thought it was on the 11/11 instead

[wise bison]

are the OWWC crowdfunding skins limited?

[cedar oasis]

Yes

[static pond]

Apparently to Albert he had a ego thought he was the best tank in the owl and everyone else was way for behind

Develop can’t play flex if he is a hs or support

[uncut drum]

Where is it getting played

I mean streamed

[weary talon]

Where proper

[rugged quest]

where can see

liquipedia doesnt show teams for me

[weary talon]

Mustn’t have been put up to date then yet

[rugged quest]

but wheres that picture from

[plush grail]

idk why it even includes the teams anymore

theyre all dropped

[uncut drum]

Old people

[north relic]

bunch of washed players and viol2t

[plush grail]

the last time any of these players won a gf was in 2020

[plush grail]

smurf isnt washed

but just

not as good as he used to be

compare to others

[timid phoenix]

izayaki won in s4 (2021)

[static pond]

Profit dead weight

Bro is stalker not on a team

Hello

Also think lip taking a bread

Break

[tawdry hamlet]

Lmao
"When London rein one trick how come they're such a fun team but when we Winston sombra we one trick team"
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxmb1t6v0q5Y44eaGH4Rrzjd68t9Hi13tm?feature=shared

[earnest leaf]

both were boring

[uncut drum]

How

[robust patio]

😵

[robust patio]

twitch

[robust patio]

ONGOMGOMGOMOMGOGN @reef seal @static pond @heavy cliff @uncut drum

PROPER MIGHT PLAY IN FLASHOPS

BUT HAVENT CONFIRMED WHICH TEAM TO JOIN YET

[earnest leaf]

let him replace profit on that team

then they win it all

[robust patio]

na we gotta see PRODRING

[grizzled agate]

😮

[wise owl]

hey, is there a website simliar to vlr but for overwatch

[robust patio]

elaborate o.O

website to see ow player records and stat? or ow blizzard main website?

[robust patio]

PROPER CONFIRMED HE MIGHT PLAY FOR FLASHOPS

[robust patio]

11/11

ROADHOG IS GETTING A REWORK

YAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYAYAY

[wise owl]

vlr is a collection of all valroant tournaments and games occurring all in one location. i rarely ever miss a val event but i can't seem to find a place for all ow events like that

the people who made vlr once had an ow page like it

[uncut drum]

Nah

No synergy

[earnest leaf]

Profit didn't play with any of them last season

[uncut drum]

So

Did proper

They all know each other for time

[robust patio]

liquipedia

[tawdry hamlet]

Pov that team's webcams

[robust patio]

tbh

prime profit>proper

🥺🥺

[hot onyx]

most overrated player of 2023 as voted by the prestigeous ecopoint podcast

[robust patio]

ofc

hes getting washed

but prime profit was insane

[hot onyx]

overrated flexibility

and consistency

but when he woke up on the right side of the bed he was pretty crazy

[robust patio]

ya

if u talking consistency

Ans best consistency dps

bros bullying guxue in ranked

[hot onyx]

bait used to be believable

[robust patio]

and diffing merit

Team flashop

basically

1image lore

[hot onyx]

i thought choi was in military

[robust patio]

profit vs choi vs

peoper

vs someone

[robust patio]

he came bek

[hot onyx]

yippie

[robust patio]

many pro ow players

are coming back

well prob see old gens a lot

by 2024

[stray quarry]

whattt

choi is back??

[robust patio]

he is but he wont play in flashops

i think ppl are confusing choisewhan and hyo

[tawdry hamlet]

Did proper win grand finals mvp despite not winning gf?

Or is that a joke I genuinely can't remember

I'm so stupid and high I see the category break omegalul

[earnest leaf]

he did not win grand finals mvp

fearless won it

[tawdry hamlet]

Indeed I got confused by the screenshot lmao

[robust patio]

🫡🫡

[rugged quest]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/17qibtt/new_flash_ops_roster_with_fearless_hanbin_proper/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

damn

[robust patio]

late news 😵

here

have a better look

[rugged quest]

what?

that picture doesnt even have the team i linked

[robust patio]

nvm ma bad

i thought u posted poker face

[rugged quest]

nah

hanbin, proper, fearless, chiyo, stalker and fielder

[robust patio]

anyways that roster is atlana reign+kev fearless

[rugged quest]

new team

kevster is not kevster

[robust patio]

they need a sigma player tho

whats hanbin gonna do

[robust patio]

really?

who is it then

[rugged quest]

its proper alt

acc

apparently

[robust patio]

team

became more stacked

they need a good sig this

tho

[full lichen]

Iso han is the best team

Easily

[fading lodge]

Anyone know what type of monitors the pro players used at the Overwatch World Cup?

[uncut drum]

The 500 Hz one s

I think

The rog ones

[fading lodge]

Know the exact model?

[uncut drum]

I think there is only one or 2 500hz ones

I think it is this

I remember the base design

https://rog.asus.com/articles/news/the-rog-swift-500hz-shatters-boundaries-with-its-ultra-fast-panel/

[robust patio]

maybe

[uncut drum]

Nah proring

[robust patio]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/17qibtt/new_flash_ops_roster_with_fearless_hanbin_proper/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[uncut drum]

And smurf

[robust patio]

hanbin proper chiyo fearless

[uncut drum]

And good backline

[robust patio]

fielder

[uncut drum]

Mid

Lost owwc

Lost owl

Mid team

[robust patio]

true

but they got proper

[uncut drum]

Nah the Smurfs winn

[robust patio]

isohan wins

for this meta

[uncut drum]

Meta can change

Also force dive

[robust patio]

for 11/11

ya

u never know

its kor vs kor

they can do whatever

[uncut drum]

Yeah true

[robust patio]

815 team also look strong

choi

[uncut drum]

Where do you see these teams

[robust patio]

updated liqupedia

[full lichen]

Still not as good as Iso han, Stalker and Proper get fucked by Peli and Mer1t

SOMEONE diffs Fearless and Hanbin

Chorong equals Chiyo

And Idk how Fielder vs Vigi would go, Vigi has been hyped up a LOT

[restive forge]

any other team besides reign and he starts every game and never gets subbed

in my honest and humble opinion

[robust patio]

yes my irl friend do be op

[full lichen]

Nice

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/RockstarGames/status/1722237703553798312

Yessssss

Fucking hell

[weary talon]

Thats a crazy statement

[meager onyx]

Stalker proper loses to merit peli

That is a take

[cedar oasis]

Lil bro

Take ur meds

[meager onyx]

Kinda hard to disagree but it's like rolestar, roty, 2022 league mvp and the tracer that led #1 in all stats 2023 vs grandfinals mvp and pelican

[full lichen]

Aren't you like 40? Go take your blood pressure medicine grandpa

[cedar oasis]

Bowol that is a very mean thing to say

You know that I'm not 40

[full lichen]

That's not what everyone else says

[cedar oasis]

Chorong equals fielder and someone diffs fearless and hanbon

[uncut drum]

Nah smurfs better mid backline got diffed my mmonk and lensgu hanbin is over fucking rated dude got fucked my vestola sigma and smurfs can it's force dive the DPS is the only thing you can say might be better but but profit over proper .proper is is properly mid and stalker is just mini profit

Surmfs are better

[full lichen]

Chorong equals Fielder?

Take your memory medicine grandpa

[cedar oasis]

You mean lsd and levi

They lie

Alot

[full lichen]

Ik lol

They love spreading false information

[weary scarab]

😂

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/overactivegg/status/1722258293996028251?t=pMyrkVNmOKv93_bZJ81nvQ&s=19

It is over

We are done

[uncut drum]

He does so lol

Says the guy who has never watched t1

[weary scarab]

calling someone better then fearless is crazy lol

[uncut drum]

He is

So

Lol

Won't argue cause you don't know anything

End of

[weary scarab]

who are you to say i dont know anything lol

[uncut drum]

Who won owl

Who beat fearless

[weary scarab]

mare you console 😂 ?

[uncut drum]

Someone is more flexible

[weary scarab]

fearless has won overwatch league too lol

what are u on ab

[uncut drum]

Yeah so

He is not as good as someone now

[weary scarab]

fearless diffs someone on dive

[uncut drum]

As a tank in owl you need to be flexible

He was solo tank

Won dive

[weary scarab]

clearly not since he won owl

[uncut drum]

Won off tank meta

I won't argue with you anymore go watch some gameplay then come back

[weary scarab]

u are literally a console player lol

who are you

fearless has 3 owl titles lol

how many does someone have

[uncut drum]

Me with a 13th gen CPU 4090 ddr5 6000ms 64gb ram Kingston 4tb m.2 drive

Very console

[weary scarab]

if u arent top 1 eu with that pc

[uncut drum]

Someone as MVP owl champ role star

[uncut drum]

Me who has a job and doesn't spent my life playing games

[weary scarab]

mate you literally spent 5k on a pc lmao

[heavy cliff]

HUH

[uncut drum]

Dennis award

[weary scarab]

you are the definition of playing games all day

5k pc

[uncut drum]

Yeah cause I earned money duh

[weary scarab]

daddies money go hard

[uncut drum]

Something called disposable income

[weary scarab]

lmao

[uncut drum]

Says you oils money

[weary scarab]

i make 20x your salary mate

this guy

[uncut drum]

And human right violations

[weary scarab]

tell me when u get out of plat bro

then say i dont know anything

https://tenor.com/view/palestine-gif-24381216

[static pond]

https://fxtwitter.com/esports/status/1722258425835659661?s=46

[uncut drum]

It has begun

[weary scarab]

my country has one of the lowest crime rates, richest currency, one of the highest gdp per capita, one of the highest salaries, and has not broke human rights violation like your western countries but nice try tho

[uncut drum]

I suspect the Chinese teams next

[heavy cliff]

oh

oh

well

there it goes

[static pond]

Why are y’all talking about county’s

[reef seal]

Sadge

[sullen berry]

lmao the exodus after all that support

[uncut drum]

China is going to be next

[weary scarab]

because this guy hate arab countries

[static pond]

Every county has flaws tbh

[uncut drum]

Then I suspect kr after the flash ops

Na might be last

[sullen berry]

china obliterated in single swoop like they did the SBB controversy

all 4 teams with their own exit announcments

[weary scarab]

some more then others

[sullen berry]

but it's like midnight in china, maybe in 14 hours later

[uncut drum]

Are china in flash ops

[robust patio]

someone is better than fearless currently, although fearless is an insane player. currently Someone is better

no denying that

[uncut drum]

Don't argue with him

It is talking to a wall

[robust patio]

🤣

[static pond]

Some county have flaws that aren’t known in the public eye tbh ya some have more but a lot happened behind the scenes with counties

[sullen berry]

he asks expecting chinese community to hold an official OW tournament

[reef seal]

me commenting on esports when I have never watched OWL in my life:

[uncut drum]

Hope

[weary scarab]

he dosent diff fearless on dive lol

[uncut drum]

Is there

[sullen berry]

COPE

[uncut drum]

Also did guxue get back for na

[reef seal]

I assume microsoft will create another form of tier 1 overwatch

it is a big game

Oh you mean for china

[weary scarab]

Saudi is taking over overwatch esports

[uncut drum]

Last time we heard he was still at blizz con

[reef seal]

idk about that

[uncut drum]

He didn't leave with the team

[static pond]

There are rumors of Microsoft has plans

But owl will tone down

[uncut drum]

I feel like next year is when we might see some

[burnt dome]

he's right they're kind of paypigging every major organizer rn

[uncut drum]

She no chance they are doing anything soon

There

[burnt dome]

i cant think of any small organizers anymore, much less local

blast? maybe?

[robust patio]

yes u r right, but other than dive Someone is way better and more flexible

[split flume]

blizz is supposedly in talks with ESL

[static pond]

They already made effort with promoting there Xbox stuff at blizzard

[split flume]

which is saudi owned

[weary scarab]

Based Saudi Arabia

[burnt dome]

yeah :(

[uncut drum]

I expect more small tournaments held by ex owl players

[burnt dome]

god i hope calling all heroes stays up at least

[static pond]

Those talks idk will go through now

[robust patio]

if many owl players dont play in saudi, im not watching

[uncut drum]

If t2 goes under then we are over

[split flume]

CaH is through blizzard themselves and has always been separate from owl/path to pro

[static pond]

Microsoft has the final say now

[burnt dome]

im trying to bait them into saying something bannable shh

[weary scarab]

w

[split flume]

[uncut drum]

Path to pro is done

After this

[burnt dome]

i kinda am optimistic somewhat

[uncut drum]

Cause t2 will collapse soon

[burnt dome]

well, before the saudi oil money news came in

[robust patio]

• Hanbin Fearless proper chiyo fielder stalker

coming SOON i cant wait

[uncut drum]

I feel like we will be e one season

[burnt dome]

but before OWL ow grassroots was really strong

[reef seal]

saudi money saving the esport but at what cost

[uncut drum]

Nah smurfs better mid backline got diffed my mmonk and lensgu hanbin is over fucking rated dude got fucked my vestola sigma and smurfs can it's force dive the DPS is the only thing you can say might be better but but profit over proper .proper is is properly mid

[burnt dome]

tbh OWL really was the one snuffing out ow esports lol

[robust patio]

finally we can see off meta plays rather than boring sigma owwc

[weary scarab]

at a good cost

[reef seal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/107255001163788288/1150758642023419944/prooverwatch.gif

[uncut drum]

This is why owl is better we have more teams

[burnt dome]

tbh even if the saudies are more queerphobic than the average gamer, it's not like t1 is full of diversity anyway

[reef seal]

watching good gameplay is boring

[weary scarab]

owwc was way more entertaining then owl. always when i watch owl its some fkn mirror all the time

[reef seal]

I concur

[reef seal]

its funny when the most famous saudi streamer plays pharah

[split flume]

mf just concurred with himself

[uncut drum]

We had some hard meta's

But it was great in the 2nd half

[robust patio]

owwc is 1 meta owl is 299282828meta

[reef seal]

For me I would rather have quality of play over anything else

[uncut drum]

Where it was more open

[burnt dome]

so by "we" do you mean like a plural system cos that's pretty progressive

[reef seal]

think theyre the only person who thinks that

which is fine

[burnt dome]

do you differentiate between each other in the system?

[weary scarab]

when did i use we?

[burnt dome]

oh your username

my bad if you're not a plural system

[robust patio]

saudi league: basically yzn and lbdd playing phara and echo 💀

[weary scarab]

huh

[burnt dome]

they're really cool but it's hard to keep track who's steering the wheel without the pluralkits

[weary scarab]

i dont understand one thing you saying bro. maybe my english is just bad

[reef seal]

would be funny asf if saudi players were forced to be on T1 teams if the league was saudi backed and none of them played bc the koreans or chinese are way better

[keen abyss]

bap and pharah being the region’s most played heroes is funny given the comic that came out for pride month

[reef seal]

Real

[burnt dome]

i'm fucked up cos i only JUST got my friends into watching OWL

and they like bought tshirts and EVERYTHING

T-T

[keen abyss]

which is literally just bap and pharah having an ‘im gay btw’ dialogue

[reef seal]

Lmaooo

[weary scarab]

why

[robust patio]

bruh saudi organizations would pay koreans to play weird ONLY SO THAT SAUDI PLAYERS COULD WIN 🤣🤣

[uncut drum]

Lol

[burnt dome]

pharah is pure lesbian bait

[keen abyss]

she’s lesbian

[burnt dome]

i love her

[reef seal]

put me in coach ill throw for free money

[weary scarab]

i dont think they care about an overwatch character being lesbian lol

[robust patio]

🤣

[split flume]

pharah is like

the most gay woman to walk the earth

[keen abyss]

I’m sure a lot wouldn’t

[burnt dome]

good for them lol

[robust patio]

is it haram to eat pork?

[burnt dome]

yeah

[keen abyss]

it’s the ones that would get upset that are really funny

[robust patio]

is it haram to eat pork in minecraft?

[uncut drum]

More gay

[weary scarab]

what do you think

https://tenor.com/view/palestine-gif-24381216

[burnt dome]

bro sort threads by controversial in ANY venture thread

[robust patio]

no

[uncut drum]

We knew she was gay from the start

[weary scarab]

☪️

[split flume]

damn them bitches gay

good for them!

[uncut drum]

Didn't we she her gf in the comic

[reef seal]

doesnt blizzard try to force pharmercy

[uncut drum]

Emily

[reef seal]

bc the lead artist is a fan of it

[uncut drum]

Nope

[split flume]

yeah i think one of the new writers is a pharmercy shipper

so they're making pharmercy canon slowly

[robust patio]

if entire owl joins saudi league, how is saudi gonna win

[uncut drum]

The voice lines all suggest she likes genji

[reef seal]

they do not

[uncut drum]

Pay off the teams

Duh

[reef seal]

the only point is to increase awareness of them and for pride

[heavy cliff]

HOW DID I

[uncut drum]

They can't win other than that

[weary scarab]

saudi just walked in and won a world cup like nothing

[reef seal]

ofc none of the saudi players will be part of winning OWL teams

Lol

[uncut drum]

I bet all Saudi fans will compare owwc to owl

Not the same level

At all

[reef seal]

no its comparable

[uncut drum]

If they did join owl

[weary scarab]

😉 ☪️

[reef seal]

when florida mayhem would 100000000-0 Saudi arabia in their sleep

[uncut drum]

They would be like we won owwc we can win owl

[reef seal]

unfortunately none of them were in OWWC

[uncut drum]

You fucking can't

You will get fucked

End up mid table

[uncut drum]

London will best you

[reef seal]

they will finish bottom

along with NA teams

[uncut drum]

Fucking London

[burnt dome]

oh my god speaking of owwc my friend said the funniest shit he said the saudi team are pub stompers they play ow all day so it makes sense they had more stamina going into finals than team china

[reef seal]

ofc london will beat them 😭

they beat some KR teams

[burnt dome]

like oh my god hahaha

[uncut drum]

They will force rein and win

[weary scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/wheelchair-scooter-food-fat-groceries-gif-17226646

[heavy cliff]

Gimme a second

[robust patio]

is saudi league happening for only 4days?

[burnt dome]

i just want another season of owl so i can watch our hearty rein boys

[reef seal]

I want someone to win 3 rings

so I can call them the goat

[weary scarab]

huh

[uncut drum]

China beat kr and is not allowed to rest

[burnt dome]

? are you trolling

[reef seal]

no1 has 3 rings

[burnt dome]

yeah 5 map then 5 map is ridiculous

but like

[uncut drum]

Nah fucking give profit a fucking team please

Dude needs a team

[burnt dome]

that's just the average day for an unemployed guy LOL

[uncut drum]

I beg

Dudes got fucked this year

[burnt dome]

when all you do is game all day like that aint shit

[uncut drum]

Fucked in 2020

[robust patio]

saudi ppl are happy cus they won a league thats only for 4days when theres only 1 meta. if saudi league happens monthly, they do not have a chance if meta shifts

[uncut drum]

Fucked in 2021

[reef seal]

scrimming gets mentally tiring

so not physically but mentally

[split flume]

if it's any other meta besides the one it was

ksa doesn't win

[reef seal]

truth

[uncut drum]

They can't play dive

[burnt dome]

on GOD profit is one of the greatest that missed out on being THE goat

[weary scarab]

yeah kinda crazy that they are happy when china has tried for like 6 years and failed lol. and saudi just walks in and win 500k for free

[uncut drum]

I respect ksaa

[reef seal]

they will go 0-100 in dive

[uncut drum]

He was good

Has been good

For a while

Very good off tank

[split flume]

ksaa has had a good sigma for like

three years

[reef seal]

yeah ksaa is good

majed is decent

[uncut drum]

In a dive mirror

[burnt dome]

anyone that lasts in owl for 2+ years is really good

[split flume]

majed has played more illari than anyone in the pro scene

[burnt dome]

it's the consistency

tbh

[weary scarab]

whole saudi team is stacked except youbi

[reef seal]

yeah lmao

[reef seal]

?

[weary scarab]

majed carried on illari

[reef seal]

ur main support is fkn shit

haku

[uncut drum]

He is still the goat of ow

[weary scarab]

yeah him too

but hhe put it up against masaa

tho

[uncut drum]

But after the outlaws got to GFS

[burnt dome]

okay wait y'all have good players idk about STACKED

[reef seal]

quartz and ksaa are good

imo

[uncut drum]

He is not the goat of OWL

[reef seal]

quartz was offered to be on mayhem but turned it down

[burnt dome]

nah not the goat, definitely top5 easily

[robust patio]

saudi needs to pray for mayhem not to join saudi league 💀

[burnt dome]

idk

[uncut drum]

I said ow not owl

[weary scarab]

how can u not call lbbd7 and sirmajeed good. sirmajeed carried team fights on illari and lbbd7 was very good on bap for of role

[uncut drum]

This year fucked him

[burnt dome]

in all of overwatch?

[reef seal]

lbb is not good man

[split flume]

there is no goat for all of ow

[reef seal]

compared to the two I listed

[burnt dome]

hmm i actually dont know if i have a solid goat for all of OW lol

[reef seal]

majed is decent in terms of all the OWL supports

[uncut drum]

I disagree

[robust patio]

its SBB for me

[weary scarab]

bro he diffed owl supports in wc

[reef seal]

lbb would get farmed in OWL

on dps

[weary scarab]

when he is in team with his real friends he carries

[burnt dome]

for me maybe jjonak? he literally defined flex support gameplay that still holds to this day

[robust patio]

ksa fans happy they won 1 world cup 🥺cute

[weary scarab]

he took a map against houston outlaws. pelican, fearles,violett, shu,

[uncut drum]

Kr wins 3 in a row

[reef seal]

bro

[weary scarab]

hard diffed pelican on pharah

[reef seal]

THEY DID NOT TRY

[uncut drum]

No one says anything

[reef seal]

Oh mah lord

outlaws were on ball

😭

[split flume]

happy was playing pharah

lmao

[weary scarab]

lmao you said the same thing about korea finland lmao

[uncut drum]

Who didn't try

[weary scarab]

look what happened

[reef seal]

🤣

[robust patio]

yea ksa being loud after winning only once

[weary scarab]

i mean. 12:0 in wc isnt that good right?

[robust patio]

bro doesnt know what korea did in 2016

[static pond]

Tbh

[reef seal]

ill pay money to see a single arab player reach top 4 in OWL

[static pond]

Your team got the easer bracket

[uncut drum]

Won't happen

[static pond]

They put the top 3 teams in the same bracket

[uncut drum]

Sir majed is already top 15 all time I owl

[weary scarab]

we got the hardest group and won against finland who beat korea and china who beat korea lol

[robust patio]

korea never lost a single point not map not match a single point in owwc 2016 and korea was not considered good in fps at that time

[heavy cliff]

Ok so finland against korea, is neither a good judge of finland, nore korea

both team

did not want to be there

[static pond]

Korea legit had coaching issues and sparkle

[heavy cliff]

they just lost 3-2 to get in the finals

[burnt dome]

what the fuck LOL

[weary scarab]

all this for no healthcare and a 40k ambulance bill 😂

[static pond]

Sparkle is so ass

[reef seal]

Real

that guy is ASS

[burnt dome]

god i wish i was into ow back then

imagine the casters going fucking CRAZY

[uncut drum]

China didn't even have a coach

Lol

[burnt dome]

didnt lose a point?

[robust patio]

every single game they did not lose a single point, it was brutal to watch

[burnt dome]

back when 2cp was on?

that's insane

[robust patio]

yes

[split flume]

2016 world cup rosters were also voted on by the countries players lol

[burnt dome]

oh LOL

oh my god was that the one where aus fielded muselk

[static pond]

Rush legit picked sparkle over pelican and stalker

[burnt dome]

i take it back korea got lucky

[split flume]

it was content creators for every country and the south korean community voted for lunatic-hai

[weary scarab]

excuses always come in handy

[uncut drum]

Rush and this brain dead thinking

[split flume]

ya

[static pond]

You do realize rush overall Ist a good coach

[burnt dome]

bro i ddint even know what ow stood for back then and i heard about muself for AUS im SHAKING

[static pond]

He legit one tricks metas

And people call him a good coach

[weary scarab]

sauna>lip sojourn😂

[robust patio]

now its 5matches instead of 3 but look under

[robust patio]

if thats ur logic, hydron>quartz youbi

[weary scarab]

i didnt see hydron diffing quartz

[reef seal]

warra OWL ring for any saudi player

[robust patio]

go watch blizz world again

[split flume]

one series does indeed invalidate 3 years of playing at the very top and winning a ring

true

[uncut drum]

And this was when there was more teams I swear it was like 48 teams and this year it was 28

[robust patio]

he was diffing quartz for 3min

[reef seal]

what a top 4 finish for a saudi player in overwatch league honestly...

[heavy cliff]

I mean Sp9 was good for team synergy, but stalk3r is so much better than sp9 you can probably just do it especially since chiyo lip and fielder were in atlanta with him

[weary scarab]

lol quartz deleted hydron every time lmao. yall literally complained about him for 30 min in here

[heavy cliff]

but yeah

[reef seal]

crazy how super will have more awards...

[burnt dome]

i read that as something way funnier lmao

[robust patio]

yes, korea was unstoppable, only way blizzard can nerf korea is by changing meta and reworking their dps main

[burnt dome]

i thought you said crazy saudi hit top4 on their first time in owwc

[weary scarab]

the only thing he did was get like 2 picks and hold them first 2 minutes. then afk @balmy wolf

[burnt dome]

and like wow you're right

that is insane they got top4 this year no one expected it

[robust patio]

same for sauna

[uncut drum]

Just don't argue with the wall he had no knowledge snd speaks madness 90 precent of the time

[weary scarab]

sauna carried them on 2 maps

[uncut drum]

It is a FUCKIGN wall

Don't argue with it

[robust patio]

if blizzard didnt nerf korea, theyd win every world cup and no one would watch it

[reef seal]

he has never watch OWL in his life

[uncut drum]

Saudi fans = 🧱

[reef seal]

and is commenting on it

[uncut drum]

Wall

[heavy cliff]

i feel like every single meta was better than the one we had for wc for korea specificaly

[weary scarab]

yeah picked of quartz 2 times first 2 minutes. then quartz carried and won

[uncut drum]

Shad

[robust patio]

wow 2min no wae 😵😵😵😵

[heavy cliff]

What hero is hanbin worse at then sigma?

[uncut drum]

Don't argue with the wall

Just block them

[heavy cliff]

the only saving grace of this meta is lip soj

but he cant do it all alone

[robust patio]

na if blizzard didnt rework sombra, lip sombra solos ksa

[weary scarab]

bro you literally have a 4090 64gb ram and say i dont play overwatch when i ask abot your rank 😂

[uncut drum]

Bait and brain-dead fan

[weary scarab]

get of mate

daddied money and still gold

[robust patio]

he would be emping ksa every millisecond

[uncut drum]

Anyone see what he is saying

[weary scarab]

no

[uncut drum]

Chiyo said they dive one trick

[weary scarab]

stop talking about me if you have blocked me lol

i dont care about you

[robust patio]

basically, if saudi league shifts meta, they can’t win against owl players

[weary scarab]

yeah. hydron diffed him 2 times in 2 min

[uncut drum]

They have only played one meta

And think they are god's

[weary scarab]

deleted spain rein comp. ksaa jq didnt work against china cuz they were running a cass lol

[split flume]

whoa guys

[weary scarab]

ksaa is great on every tank

[split flume]

they beat spain with jq

back up

they beat SPAIN

[reef seal]

no hes not

😭

hes good at some off tanks but saying hes good on monkey or rein is delulu

[weary scarab]

diva, ram, doom, sigma, jq

[tepid ibex]

Me when I lie

[robust patio]

u cant judge a player by him performing good only for 1game. do u know how owls Seasonal MVP gets chosen? its called consistency . as long as quartz didnt diff hydron for more than 10matches, u cant just say quartz>hydron or sauna>lip. got it?

[tepid ibex]

That is not every tank LOL

[weary scarab]

almost

[reef seal]

does he even play doom

like when

[tepid ibex]

That’s half the tank roster..

And when does he play doom

[weary scarab]

sauna diffed lip the match before too

[tepid ibex]

If he was good on every tank maybe he wouldn’t have been dropped from OWL

[reef seal]

sauna is never diffing lip in a million years

[robust patio]

and lip diffed sauna too

[reef seal]

lip is the best hitscan rn

[robust patio]

👍

[split flume]

if sauna actually was better than lip

[weary scarab]

vestola got dropped too lol. he is the best tank in eu

[split flume]

he wouldn't have been benched by mer1t on florida

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/yjw891213/status/1722253255055704176?t=KZootLHy767AVbRyPTuMjA&s=19

[reef seal]

REAL

[uncut drum]

Runway is back

Decent team

[robust patio]

that means he isnt comparable to Fury donghak fearless coluge or any other weak strong owl tanks

[heavy cliff]

I'd say mer1t is better at certain characters in certain situations, but overall considering how much more flexible he is i agree

[split flume]

one or two series' is one or two series'

[weary scarab]

he would perform wery well in owl you cant deny that

[split flume]

players like lip have been at the very top for years

[reef seal]

mer1t also insane

[robust patio]

theres no “runner” and “kaiser” 😭

[robust patio]

he got dropped for a reason

[uncut drum]

Half back

[weary scarab]

no got dropped for vulcan lol

just a stupid decision

[robust patio]

vulcan isnt even near owl

[heavy cliff]

I still don't get why lip was ever on bastion or sym

what the fuck were they cooking

[uncut drum]

Also is Kaiser casting or coaching now

[weary scarab]

he got cooked on soj

[robust patio]

his sym is good

[uncut drum]

Last I heard

[robust patio]

bad on bast

[heavy cliff]

I get what you mean about the wall now

[robust patio]

tbh idk where he even is

ow 1 2016 kaiser is the best rein in the world

[uncut drum]

What happened

[weary scarab]

watch the game bro. they literally switched him to bast sym cuz he got cooked

by sauna

[robust patio]

i dont think thats the reason

[weary scarab]

they got cooked on that comp

so they switched it up

[heavy cliff]

So just let sauna go uncontested?

[robust patio]

its flashpoint u need a sym

[heavy cliff]

You dont switch comps in a professional game of overwatch, because you're getting diffed

[robust patio]

exactly

[heavy cliff]

this isn't a ranked game

[robust patio]

i dont think he understands owl level skill plays

[static pond]

Bastion and sym were meta

Only problem was

SPARKIE WAS ASS

[robust patio]

yes

[static pond]

lip played both

Sparkie couldt play sym at all@

[heavy cliff]

LIP LIP would've been the best dps line

LIP can play it all

[robust patio]

imagine if proper+LIP played

or imagine if blizzard just let korea change rosters to mayhem+Lip

[heavy cliff]

Or just put stalk3r in

[robust patio]

and invite gunba as coach 3days before match

[heavy cliff]

that version on dallas

hasnt played in a year

[robust patio]

like ksa inviting kariv 3days match

[heavy cliff]

why do they want that

atl has been playing all year

[static pond]

They could have

[heavy cliff]

just put stalk3r in

[static pond]

But guess what

Rush is ass

[robust patio]

gator ass

gunba the goat

[static pond]

He didn’t even bother picking up vigilante

[uncut drum]

Isn't he Australia

Or half

[static pond]

Who imo played better then Finn

[static pond]

Coaches don’t matter

[robust patio]

isnt Kariv korean? why is he coaching ksa

[heavy cliff]

Hanbin and fearless are pickups that are actually fine

[split flume]

i wanna see that dps line at least once before i die ong

[heavy cliff]

but sigma

[static pond]

It just the players

[uncut drum]

Oh

[tepid ibex]

Saudi had kariv and kellex as coaches soo

[uncut drum]

Bribes

[heavy cliff]

If there was any other off tank

in the meta

hanbin had it

in the bag

[robust patio]

oil money power

[uncut drum]

Ksa knew they needed to win to look good so money was sent to Bobby they goblin looking mf and he was like yeah do what you want

[robust patio]

if korean keeps winning in saudi league, the organizers would pay koreans to lose just so saudi players could win 👍

[heavy cliff]

Listen if i was offered what they probably offered him i would go there too

[weary scarab]

ii love oil money

[heavy cliff]

Its funny

bc

[robust patio]

exactly

[heavy cliff]

the team leaderboard

in west 2023 owl

is just a gradient of how many owl players a team has

the top ones are full korean rosters

the bottom ones are mixed or just english rosters

[uncut drum]

London the odd one out

[heavy cliff]

london barely qualified for play ins

even if they did make it

[uncut drum]

They still got top 6

Good enough

[heavy cliff]

in playoffs

[robust patio]

just look, literally almost no koreans under 8

[heavy cliff]

even toronto the supposed american roster

[uncut drum]

Um

[heavy cliff]

realised they aint built for this

[uncut drum]

Vegas

[heavy cliff]

and picked up some korean players

vegas did that too but no korean talent can carry that

that

whatever that was

[robust patio]

i mean they are contenders

[uncut drum]

I remember I @ coluge and he blocked me when I said he was carried by Koreans and he can't do anything at all alone he was carried last year

He has blocked.me twice

[robust patio]

twisted minds would fit right above nyxl

[static pond]

Tbh Vegas could have been good if they stayed longer and had more practice

And there tank was off ping

[robust patio]

vegas 2020 roster is basically

owwc kor roster + fra roster +gbr

mad.

[heavy cliff]

Can quartz really play like a good tracer

or sombra

[static pond]

They should pick lip because why not

[robust patio]

quartz is a hitscan

youbi is a tracer player

[heavy cliff]

So is LIP

What about tracer echo

you sub him out?

[robust patio]

echo

defo not

his echo is strong

tracer and bas i would not let lip play

he can play tracer if opponent is mexico

yes

[heavy cliff]

No

lip plays tracer

on atlanta

[robust patio]

lip wants to rest

[heavy cliff]

against really good teams

[static pond]

Ya ik

Also lip had played tracer against very good teams

[weary scarab]

if only proper played instead of lip in wc

[robust patio]

@heavy cliff @uncut drum

https://youtube.com/shorts/WMleSnDILgI?si=4Efjzii50-LtmwPm

[heavy cliff]

DUDE

[robust patio]

this is so funny

[heavy cliff]

ARE YOU

[weary scarab]

china

https://tenor.com/view/palestine-gif-24381216

[robust patio]

no difference, the problem was hanbin not lip

[weary scarab]

proper sojourn is cracked

[heavy cliff]

Thats not his role

proper is a fdps

lip is a hitscan

[robust patio]

proper = lip equal skill

[weary scarab]

have u seen proper soj lol

[uncut drum]

He got stopped

[heavy cliff]

HE WAS PLAYING WITH STRIKER

[robust patio]

by Lip

[static pond]

Proper and lip are different roles lmao

[heavy cliff]

Proper is just a god at this game

[uncut drum]

I love the line

[static pond]

Lip soj also diff proper soj

[heavy cliff]

so he gets put on like widow and soj occasionaly

when his other dps

[uncut drum]

Proper can't be stopped he got stopped

[static pond]

Btw I love this team

[uncut drum]

I love that casting duo.

[heavy cliff]

isnt good enough

[weary scarab]

hell nah lol. watch when proper played soj in soj one shot

[uncut drum]

CHRIS IS PLAYING

Huh

Not coaching

[robust patio]

proper can play so many dps

[static pond]

Lip went against proper when he was on dragons who btw fleta already pretty much stopped playing the game and there main tank just wast good and still did very good

[robust patio]

lip = proper their skill is almost equal

problem with korea owwc is hanbin

and rush

[static pond]

Sparkie

[heavy cliff]

First of all proper doesn't play like that anymore, that was his rookie year, he said it himself he was extra motivated by ROTY and to prove himself, he isn't that good anymore, although he's still a beast don't get me wrong, he's still one of the very best, but he doesn't carry against playoff teams now, also their strat wis litteraly to enable proper

[static pond]

Also tbh

[heavy cliff]

that was their strat

in playoffs

just proper go kill

[robust patio]

proper was dominant with his genji

in san shock

thats how he got Mvp

[weary scarab]

yeah and in wc proper would dominate

just put him on soj

and its over

[heavy cliff]

So

[robust patio]

even lip would dominate 😭

[heavy cliff]

why do you think

gator

or

[weary scarab]

hmmm

[heavy cliff]

houston

didnt get proper

[keen abyss]

I feel like the problem wasn’t either of them

Finland and Saudi put much more effort into wc meta

[heavy cliff]

It was just unlucky

[robust patio]

Someone Lip Proper chiyo Shu ~>>>>> easily win owwc

[heavy cliff]

that it was a sig meta

any other off tank hanbin would've been fine

[keen abyss]

someone is hindsight bias

[static pond]

Real

[robust patio]

i put him cus hes a sigma god

[keen abyss]

i agree with shu but I am also an insane shu glazer

[robust patio]

owwc meta was sigma

[keen abyss]

hanbin was universally accepted as the better sigma at that time by far

[robust patio]

no

he proved it wrong

anyways

4th spit

[static pond]

plus

[robust patio]

spot

u kidding me

[static pond]

Someone is very good leader

[robust patio]

korea in 4th spot?

[heavy cliff]

Also fielders bap compared to ana kiri is one not one of his best supports, sp9 is just not him, and LIP is much better on a sombra or soj than bastion or sym

[static pond]

According to a lot of people

[robust patio]

who wouldve expect

[keen abyss]

he ‘proved it wrong’ over half a year after the roster was formed

this is just hindsight bias

hanbin was easily the #1 contender for best sig in the world until playoffs

and he wasn’t even gapped on sig

[static pond]

I think Sparkie was the leader of owwc korea

[keen abyss]

he was gapping someone on sig in playoffs

someone had to go rein

to beat hanbin sig

[robust patio]

why didnt he do that in 2023 owls

[keen abyss]

despite Florida being much more practiced on the comp

[robust patio]

exactly

[uncut drum]

All the flash ops kr rosters so far

[static pond]

Tbh mayhem were just counter switching

They did it against Boston

[robust patio]

owwc was basically a comp made for mayhem

[keen abyss]

Finland and KSA were more practiced

on the comp

[heavy cliff]

What

[keen abyss]

individual skill can only take you so far

[robust patio]

u think mayhem vs ksa ksa would win?

[heavy cliff]

hamsters is stupid stacked tf

how is proper stalk3r a thing

is proper gonna be histcan?

[uncut drum]

Still going to get fucked

[keen abyss]

if mayhem put in the same amount of effort that team Korea did

yes

[robust patio]

even with 0effort

[static pond]

That wild they picked profit over decay

[robust patio]

mayhem would win

[keen abyss]

ksa scrimmed that comp 4 hours a day for a month straight

mayhem wouldn’t win with no effort

[uncut drum]

mid backline got diffed my mmonk and lensgu hanbin is over fucking rated dude got fucked my vestola sigma and smurfs can it's force dive the DPS is the only thing you can say might be better but but profit over proper .proper is is properly mid.

[robust patio]

their effort of winning owl is enough

[uncut drum]

And stalker is the mini profit

[keen abyss]

Finland did similar amounts of practice assumedely

[keen abyss]

they didn’t win owl by being good at sig comp

[static pond]

Hamster has a hs problem

[keen abyss]

they won owl by having the flexibility to just counterswap

every team

[static pond]

Real

[heavy cliff]

Runaway looks... interesting o2 highschool looks fun to watch

[static pond]

I notice that too lol

[robust patio]

ofc

[keen abyss]

if you watched the game

[robust patio]

but his sigma plays was what got him mvp

[static pond]

They kept switching comps in flashpoint against Boston

[keen abyss]

Florida was getting shit on by Dallas’ sig comp

in sig mirror

despite Florida having more practice on sig comp and arguably a better comp

[static pond]

Legit someone would go back to spawn just to switch

[keen abyss]

real

[static pond]

With the Lucio

Even if they won the fight

[keen abyss]

Florida’s gameplan was not to be better than the other team

they weren’t better at any comps than the enemy teams

[robust patio]

hm u have a point

but this is against ksa and finland

[keen abyss]

they just played whatever comp gave them an advantage against the enemy comp

[robust patio]

not other koreans

[static pond]

Ye it was lame imo

[keen abyss]

a full owl team scrimming meta with a similar amount of effort they dedicate to owl

will stomp a World Cup team

[robust patio]

exactly

[keen abyss]

team Korea didn’t do that

they didn’t want the win as much as the Europeans did

[robust patio]

😵

[keen abyss]

they got complacent with simply having more talent

imo

[weary scarab]

china wanted to win more then the europeans ngl

[keen abyss]

underestimated how hard the other teams would grind

[static pond]

I still think rush is ass tbh

[keen abyss]

this just isn’t true

[tropic herald]

This iteration of Korea might also just be the most boomable iteration

[robust patio]

this is infact true 🤣

[weary scarab]

it is. even the fans cried when china. they had gotten scnd place 2 times before

[keen abyss]

china one tricked a comp that was explicitly worse than meta

that doesn’t scream wanting it more

[tropic herald]

Hamster

[weary scarab]

they are the best on that comp

woudlnt have won it on sig comp

[keen abyss]

than the team that grinded 4 hours a day for a whole month

[static pond]

No hs

Proper mid now imo

[tropic herald]

Hitscan weak role….

[keen abyss]

without even taking a weekend break

[robust patio]

well see on nov 11, hamster vs isohan, whose better

[static pond]

I’m happy to see stalker tho

Bro was a beast

[keen abyss]

probably hamster

[robust patio]

best duo even london is happy

[keen abyss]

since bastion comp is out of meta

[robust patio]

profring

[keen abyss]

they have no way to cheese out winston comps

[static pond]

Profit about to be dead weight

Imo

[keen abyss]

and they lose to fearless chiyo fielder in a straight winston mirror

[tropic herald]

Wait

But that’s the talon backline

Which is the backline that made

Kellan look insane

[robust patio]

it be dope if they played mauga

in flashops final

for final qualifiers it be 3 korea 2 japan 1 sea team i think

[static pond]

Imo isohan, hamster and o2 high school are top 3

[robust patio]

japan would have varrel