esports-discussion

[feral zodiac]

israel gets infinite d.va bombs

[robust patio]

lel

[weary scarab]

wait didnt israel play this world cup?

i think they did

[feral zodiac]

Somehow yeah

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did they?

[rugged quest]

Nope

[feral zodiac]

they were in qualifiers

[weary scarab]

bro i swear i saw them play in qualifiers

[rugged quest]

they werent

[feral zodiac]

nvm they didnt

thye havnet played since 2019

[rugged quest]

they werent in wildcard or qualifiers

they didnt get a chance to qualify

[robust patio]

china needs to break from 2nd place curse tbh

[weary scarab]

china celebrated the korea win just to get reversed swept by saudi

[robust patio]

this was hilarioys

[feral zodiac]

China are the philly fusion of owwc

[robust patio]

i miss phily

goat ALARM

[feral zodiac]

rip Alarm

[robust patio]

which they eventually switched to

[feral zodiac]

would have been the best

[robust patio]

https://tenor.com/view/mei-overwatch-genji-owned-ice-diablou-frezee-mei-overwatch-genji-owned-freeze-gif-27503945

[weary scarab]

it is hilarious how lbbd7 put it up with lengsa and mmonk on his off role tho 😂 . thats crazy to me

[feral zodiac]

pov: leave vs ksa

[robust patio]

lore accurate

[reef seal]

^

[robust patio]

lbdd and ksaa defo not mvp

after that c9

that was brutal to see

[weary scarab]

ksaa thought the cart would start moving earlier

lol

[robust patio]

cmn they should know better 💀

[weary scarab]

nah ksa c9 to show their masculinity trust

thats why they won

[feral zodiac]

based

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fosho

[vale cobalt]

we all do ❤️

will watch loki series now can u rate the show 0 to 10 @robust patio

[pearl gale]

If cloudy wasn't banned would of he been benched?

[vale cobalt]

okay listen

[pearl gale]

I still wanted a top team to do rein

[vale cobalt]

this is a

great take

but

yeah

cloudy could win this

[hollow briar]

9

[robust patio]

11/10

[vale cobalt]

with finland

because hes so smart

[pearl gale]

On current patch maybe

[vale cobalt]

he understands how to operate during stressful sitautions

[pearl gale]

Bastion very strong on old patch

[robust patio]

theres still one last episode

[hollow briar]

What’s next for Overwatch esports

[vale cobalt]

i watched ant man movie and there was a loki scene so i had to watch u know

[hollow briar]

When owl

[robust patio]

2024 owwc ig

[hollow briar]

And WC

[vale cobalt]

saudi money

[robust patio]

owl is done

[vale cobalt]

rly

[vale cobalt]

do u need to watch som,ething else b4 loki

[robust patio]

its cus of kang

[vale cobalt]

kang pog

[hollow briar]

Saudi got crown jewel WWE event yesterday and winners of OWWC?

That’s crazy

[robust patio]

u were supposed to see loki szn 1 first than antman

[vale cobalt]

they will invest ow cuz saudi won wc

[hollow briar]

Wtf why

[vale cobalt]

i watch movies only man stop bullying me

[limpid mulch]

oh 100%

[vale cobalt]

u didnt know?

[limpid mulch]

Blizz about to make bank

[hollow briar]

No

[limpid mulch]

So many Saudis will hear about it

[vale cobalt]

saudi won wc

cringe fanbase won

ggs

[limpid mulch]

and be like I wanna join in and see what its about

[hollow briar]

You just said that

[limpid mulch]

and Saudis hae a shit ton of money

so they'll buy skins

etc

[hollow briar]

I don’t think they should do that

[limpid mulch]

money is money

[hollow briar]

And

[vale cobalt]

[hollow briar]

Then again WWE does it too

But still

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whats wee

[limpid mulch]

kinda cringe cuz were gonna see more YZNSA wanna bes

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wwe

[vale cobalt]

so guys is there any marvel shows that i should watch

[hollow briar]

Bruh

[vale cobalt]

besides loki

[hollow briar]

It’s the wrestling company

[vale cobalt]

i hate him so much

[robust patio]

falcon, wanda

[hollow briar]

You know undertaker John Cena stone cold

[vale cobalt]

i dont like those garbages

[limpid mulch]

Watch a Saudi contenders team come up

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moon knight

[vale cobalt]

my fav

[robust patio]

moon knight is still prob my best

[limpid mulch]

He said my zarya was good and added me so I like him

[vale cobalt]

we had a talk about it

[robust patio]

hero

[vale cobalt]

remember

[hollow briar]

If they do Saudi

[robust patio]

ya

[hollow briar]

Say goodbye to soe

[vale cobalt]

couldnt care less

[hollow briar]

[vale cobalt]

ikr

hijab host

100%

im not against it btw its not racist or anything i do think they should give all kind of ppl a chance

[limpid mulch]

nah

[robust patio]

2023 grand champ owl winner +seasonal mvp said my ana was good

👍

[hollow briar]

But I wanna see soe

[limpid mulch]

sheeesh

top 168 peak 1 upping you

[hollow briar]

I think some of the cast wouldn’t agree to stay on

[limpid mulch]

The cast support LGBTQ, Saudi does not

[pearl gale]

🤓☝️

[limpid mulch]

I doubt they'll do anything

Blizzard supports LGBTQ

[robust patio]

whos top 168

[vale cobalt]

xdsdddd

[hollow briar]

That’s true

[pearl gale]

Saying top 168 is funny, just say rank 168

[limpid mulch]

I peaked 168

[hollow briar]

That’s probably why WWE didn’t sell to Saudi too lol

[robust patio]

in what region

[limpid mulch]

EU

[hollow briar]

Cuz even they knew it would’ve been a bad idea

[robust patio]

eu 💀

[pearl gale]

I will peak t10 over Christmas I have no doubt

[feral zodiac]

WWE is also like

Heavily supported in America

[robust patio]

top 500 eu is like masters in asia

[limpid mulch]

lol true

prob diamond too

[pearl gale]

Did u not just watch the world cup

[robust patio]

i peaked 187 in asia

[hollow briar]

Idk all I want is Phil to say MLG will continue esports

[limpid mulch]

Don't think that's OWL related 😲

[hollow briar]

Or fund OWL

Idk whichever he does

[pearl gale]

Both eu teams beat Asia teams so

[robust patio]

if korea wants overwatch pro players to continue, they might bring back Apax

[limpid mulch]

Finland

Like how did they beat Korea

I have no idea

[hollow briar]

That’s probably why they aren’t doing anything rn

Cuz of the acquisition

[robust patio]

weak meta for korea

[vale cobalt]

u have no idea who this person is

[split flume]

not a weak meta for korea

weak meta for the team korea fielded

[hollow briar]

So they’re probably just talking it out

[robust patio]

is that shy

[vale cobalt]

guxue?

[hollow briar]

Maybe in 2024 since Bobby is still there

[robust patio]

oh

🤣

[hollow briar]

And he’ll be gone

[limpid mulch]

True

Joy was on my face after hearing that he's gonna go

[hollow briar]

It’s funny how he’ll be gone when the employees are on break

[split flume]

florida mayhem + fielder clears every team in the world cup 3-0

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imma sleep now 🛌

[hollow briar]

Cuz of the holidays

So they’ll be celebrating at home

[limpid mulch]

I just hope OWL 2024 happens

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if blizzard gave country a chance to swap rosters after the patch

[limpid mulch]

Hoping to see new contenders teams too

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then korea wouldve won

[split flume]

absolutely

[limpid mulch]

100%

[split flume]

sparkle being on the world cup team is just

holy nepotism

[robust patio]

qualifiers = som dive meta kor dominated

blizzard: holy shit lets remake sombra and make lip not use it

changes meta

owwc group stages happen

[vale cobalt]

demontic loki stole something in avengers movie what is this series about it

[limpid mulch]

lmfao

[robust patio]

just watch

im not spoiling

[vale cobalt]

ok

[split flume]

lip having to deal with sparkle feeding every fight

[reef seal]

speak louder

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it's crazy how

florida mayhem had more coordination on the sigma comp 2 months ago

than any team in world cup

[reef seal]

maybe bc that team is actually good at the game

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blizzard should not change patches during owwc

[reef seal]

my shock

[split flume]

question klombus

do u think the illari variation fucks the rein counter comp

[robust patio]

the term between qualifiers and group stage was 5 frickin month wtf

[reef seal]

erm

Hmm

[limpid mulch]

or at least have oowc play on an old patch

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they shouldve given korea to change rosters to mayhem

[reef seal]

Think it depends on the skills of the players

but playing rein vs that variation with illari is so hard

its like playing dive vs it

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thats also a solution

like many countries had the chance to swap in rosters either from visa problems to inapp problems

and ksa inviting kor denmark coach 3days before match

they should give korea a chance to bring Someone and mer1t in the roster

[split flume]

you know what's fucking amazing

no world cup team asked gunba to coach them

unless he just wanted a break

[robust patio]

i dont think

he knows

dallas fuel

strats

[split flume]

bro the dallas fuel strats dont work 😭

[robust patio]

exactly

they shouldve given the chance to put someone and merit in the roster

and invite gunba

3days before match

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imma sleep fr now cya

[split flume]

gn

[junior radish]

kariv had been their coach for a while i think it was in his twitter bio

[slate siren]

I hope blizzard brings back OW to China

Insane talent there

[reef seal]

Microsoft*

but, real

[robust patio]

yes he was the coach for twisted minds that won the contenders but he wasnt invited during the qualifiers

[junior radish]

i remember

looking on his twitter bio

and it said

[slate siren]

Oh yeah

lol

[junior radish]

“coach @saowwc”

i swear

on my life

before the announcement

[robust patio]

he put it when he was coaching for twisted minds

he was never the coach

during eu qualifiers

[uncut drum]

I FUCKING HAVE WIFI AFTER 32 HOURS

Ksa airports have such dogshit with

Wifi

I was first class and the lounge WiFi was dogshit

[balmy wolf]

True arab

Same shit

Look both are asians

I play on Singapore server

Better ping

I have 120 cause my arab country is closer

[reef seal]

You don’t play on bahrain?

Interesting you play SG

[balmy wolf]

Bahrain is 10 minutes for a game

[reef seal]

Wtf

[balmy wolf]

Also they moved it to dubai like 3 months ago

[reef seal]

Oh

I thought it was still on Bahrain

[balmy wolf]

I had to change ip to keep it blocked

[reef seal]

Interesting

I play SG for low elo and KR if I want to play in gm

If my friends want me on EU I will but I get around 190 ping or higher not rlly playable

[serene gazelle]

I get like 10 ping

[reef seal]

Jealous

[serene gazelle]

I'm still bad tho xD

[balmy wolf]

190 not playable

[reef seal]

Agreed

but some of the players who I play vs don’t punish me on that ping

[balmy wolf]

Thats so nice

[reef seal]

Indeed

[vale cobalt]

guys

is mauga

available whole day or to 8 cest

[balmy wolf]

Only couple hours and he will be gone

[vale cobalt]

it says whole weekend

weekend ends at 00:00 cest

[reef seal]

it’s based on pacific NA time zone I think

[vale cobalt]

wtf

so will in disappear at 20:00 cest or not

[weary scarab]

It ends in 1 hour

[vale cobalt]

whats the source

[vale cobalt]

F

[slate siren]

Bro I’m in Dubai rn

And the queue times are fucking crazy

Especially for higher ranks

plat itself takes >20 mins if you wanna play dps

[vale cobalt]

ded game

[left vortex]

Do Dubai, KSA and UAE have their own local servers?

[winter pivot]

@lusty pumice

add me back

[hard forge]

Yall

Does the esports communtiy look into everyones past?

Like, to see if that player is a horrible person, yk?

[vale cobalt]

ofc

[grizzled agate]

why is USA turning garbage

are they trolling

there loosing to teams they would otherwise roll

[balmy wolf]

Just go Singapore server

[balmy wolf]

Yes but we have low population so not much players

[balmy wolf]

Only when he steamroll European teams in world cup qualifiers

[balmy wolf]

Also wana meet in dubai

[hard forge]

From where i live its mostly saudi players in my lobbies

I believe we r all in bahrain server but im not sure

[weary talon]

Na overwatch nepotism is over

[balmy wolf]

Middle east server suck ass, mostly only gulf arabs care about the game in the region and they are very few, desert regions Basically can't support much population and hence we have lower population than everyone

Thus the long time to get a game

[weary talon]

Yeah

I notice a lot of middle east players in eu servers

[left vortex]

thanks for info

[hard forge]

I have fast queues on quickplay tho so that's saying something.

[rugged quest]

NA ow is just dead

washed region

[snow frost]

Does the drops still on or it''s finished?

[rugged quest]

finished

[snow frost]

:/

15min left before i get Doomfist WC skin

And it's disapear

:/

[balmy wolf]

F

[oblique scaffold]

yall

why did yznsa get banned from ow tourneys

[slate siren]

https://x.com/ChengduHunters/status/1721243739920945181?s=20

holyyy

[slate siren]

im on console

[weary talon]

CP and general bigotry

[oblique scaffold]

cp?

[weary talon]

• its he himself who resigned from going to LAN cause he cant abuse pharah on 0 ping kek

[oblique scaffold]

how did bro even send child 18+

[oblique scaffold]

he said he got banned

?

[weary talon]

Well hes lying

lol

[oblique scaffold]

why should i believe u instead

i mean

[weary talon]

Go on the reddit then

[serene gazelle]

I'm not defending him but I have never seen that they said cp

[oblique scaffold]

hes a better source

[oblique scaffold]

how he resigned

[serene gazelle]

he didn't resign

tf

[oblique scaffold]

ye

he lying

[serene gazelle]

youre on some bs bro

[weary talon]

Distributing nudes of his then girlfriends when they were underage🧍

[oblique scaffold]

ye

[oblique scaffold]

yep

your lying

lmao

[weary talon]

Im not

[serene gazelle]

nah bro stop talking out of your butt bro

[oblique scaffold]

i can confirm

[serene gazelle]

yes you are

[oblique scaffold]

hes mad that china lost

[serene gazelle]

no source

[weary talon]

Im not

Ksa played well

[serene gazelle]

then provide the proof lmao

[weary talon]

Better than if they had yznsa

[oblique scaffold]

man

we know

its just your lying lol

[serene gazelle]

dude I'm still waiting on the proof

[oblique scaffold]

he got none

arabs would turn on him cuz he had a gd

gf

[serene gazelle]

youre the definition of source: trust me bro

[oblique scaffold]

what about sending 18+ stuff

[serene gazelle]

I have never even heard he ever had a gf

[oblique scaffold]

he cant

hes arab

they dont get gfs

[serene gazelle]

oh ok

[oblique scaffold]

hes def lying

he got banned cause of homophobia i think

[serene gazelle]

you must be pretty terrible if you talk out of your butt without providing any proof

[oblique scaffold]

i mean

[rugged quest]

Heres the doc that was released about yznsa https://x.com/yzn_doc/status/1684948843484356608?s=20

but it was deleted because it breaks google doc tos

[gloomy flame]

Lf 1 tank or dps eu mic plat or diamond dm me

[oblique scaffold]

how could we believe her and prove that yzn is lying

[rugged quest]

Basically he spread nudes of underage girls in some groupchat

[serene gazelle]

that looks so fake lol

[oblique scaffold]

if that was true

saudi wouldve dropped him

[rugged quest]

There were messages in the document

but google deleted the document

[serene gazelle]

all of this is fake fricking news bruh

[oblique scaffold]

those could be faked too

[rugged quest]

But about the ban, it wasnt caused by this

its different controversy

[serene gazelle]

I'm not believing this crap

[oblique scaffold]

and lets say he did

how could she be underage

saudi got no consent laws

its marrige

not age of consent

so even if he did do it

[weary talon]

https://youtu.be/-GdXUVeDY9k

[oblique scaffold]

that is a harsher crime

[serene gazelle]

not a coincidence it's out when after they kicked him

[oblique scaffold]

allegations

[weary talon]

Here

[rugged quest]

I dont think we should look at it from a legal angle, if he did it its a moral problem

[oblique scaffold]

yea

but saudi wont let anything slide bro

[rugged quest]

even if he didnt break the law, if you spread nudes youre a fucked up person

[serene gazelle]

I still won't believe any of this bs lol

[oblique scaffold]

they are hella strict

[serene gazelle]

people just want to butcher everything

[weary talon]

Why not

[rugged quest]

It never went to court or anything

[weary talon]

Someone in the gaming community is a pos ? No way

[serene gazelle]

because if it was true it wouldve been talked about among the ow community

[rugged quest]

it was

[serene gazelle]

I don't remember

[weary talon]

It hasn’t been debunked either

[serene gazelle]

so stfu

[oblique scaffold]

if it was true saudi team wouldve insta drop him

[weary talon]

Yznsa basically just said “that’s cap”

Without giving well constructed arguments

[serene gazelle]

it's really simple. People just want to butcher everything

is it that hard to understand

are you guys new to false accusations to ruin someone's rep

[weary talon]

I highly dont think that a 15 year old is looking to ruin someone’s rep

[rugged quest]

Youre talking alot for someone who didnt even read the doc

youre operating on 0 clue on the case

[serene gazelle]

lmao what about the tik tok guy that ended his life

[serene gazelle]

because it's all bs

[rugged quest]

And you know that based on?

You didnt even know it existed until 10mins ago

you havent read the receipts

[serene gazelle]

there is a whole fricking account called "yzn_doc"

not even believable

yap yap yap I don't care neither believe it

[rugged quest]

yeah to not get her information published?

Stay ignorant

[serene gazelle]

and you stay believing false accusations

which are clearly made up

[oblique scaffold]

i highly think that 15 yr olds are the most wanting to ruin some1s rep

[rugged quest]

I mean team ksa clearly doesnt care much about old controversy

[oblique scaffold]

how

[rugged quest]

an another team ksa player "one" was exposed for racism

[serene gazelle]

"old controversy" wasn't it posted in july

[rugged quest]

and blizzard had to remove him themselves

[rugged quest]

Yeah but it took place when yzn was 15

[oblique scaffold]

yes but that is not as severe as cp

rasicm is not a crime its more of a moral crime

[serene gazelle]

why would it be posted now 💀

it's fake anyways

[weary talon]

?

[oblique scaffold]

5 years ago?

[weary talon]

What guy

[oblique scaffold]

the ghost cosplayer dude

[serene gazelle]

a cosplayer on tik tok ended his life because of false accusations made up by a 17 yo

[rugged quest]

Him spreading the nudes was 5+ years ago yeah

[oblique scaffold]

but ion think he did it

if he did then why tell now once he got famous

[rugged quest]

So he wasnt an adult that had pictures of children, the problem was that he spread the pictures of underage girls

[balmy wolf]

Rip

[serene gazelle]

I don't think something would be still be that hidden 6 years

[rugged quest]

I mean its not a new thing that victims dont have the courage to come forward

this has happened so many times

[weary talon]

Thats sad that’s why these accusations have to be examined with precaution and you cant either just say that’s false and they’re trying to ruin his rep without clear evidence either cause its hurtful to the victim too

[balmy wolf]

Yea he was pedo at 15

Fucking asshole

[weary talon]

Yeah

[rugged quest]

With current info he wasnt a pedo but what he did is still fucked up

[balmy wolf]

It only come out when Saudi Arabia qualified to world cup

[serene gazelle]

I don't think they provided much proof 💀

[balmy wolf]

I mean I'm sure it's a coincidence

[weary talon]

Read the docs then

[rugged quest]

Google deleted them because it broke tos

[balmy wolf]

Everyone say he is a pedo, I'm confused now

[serene gazelle]

I can't because it's removed

[rugged quest]

cuz it had talk about nudes of underage girls

[serene gazelle]

it was fake anyways lol

[serene gazelle]

no way you believed it

[rugged quest]

According to the doc yznsa told them he was 18 but in reality he was underage

[weary talon]

Solely from a definition based point of view it’s technically not pedophilia since it involved two minors but its still wrong and messed up

[balmy wolf]

Fucking pedo

[balmy wolf]

Wait so it's not even confirmed ?

[oblique scaffold]

yea its word vs word

[serene gazelle]

it's when stupid people believe nonsense that feeds you fuel

[balmy wolf]

So like he could be innocent ...

[rugged quest]

je7 discorvered the whole controversy 10minutes ago dont take his word for anything lol

[balmy wolf]

Wtf

[oblique scaffold]

yes

[rugged quest]

There was proof in the doc but its deleted now unfortunately

[balmy wolf]

So he banned before investigating it

[oblique scaffold]

was it done in court?

[balmy wolf]

Damn

[weary talon]

He didnt get banned for that

[oblique scaffold]

then nah he is innocent itll proven guilty

[oblique scaffold]

he did

[weary talon]

Since there wasnt hard proof

[rugged quest]

The problematic thing yznsa did was spreading nudes, the pedo thing is disproved now

[weary talon]

No he got banned for win trading

[balmy wolf]

He said its part of the reason for his ban

[weary talon]

And rank manipulation

[serene gazelle]

^^^

[oblique scaffold]

he clearly said he got banned because of false allegations

not because of win trading

[rugged quest]

I doubt its a very good case in saudi court when the girls were breaking the law aswell by sending pictures like that

[weary talon]

False allegations regarding win trading

Regardless ksa got better without yznsa

[serene gazelle]

either way I doubt the doc wouldve provided enough proof anyway

[oblique scaffold]

then both are guilty

she didnt take it to court for a reason

her word>his word

[serene gazelle]

you are so dedicated to making us believe something false

[weary talon]

Both are guilty, one is morally wrong

If the accusations were to be true

[balmy wolf]

According to yzn Basically blizzard said they don't give a fuck in general but he shouldn't make issue for them on twitter trend and hence he got banned, he also told his fans it could happen to anyone, his fans then recorded cloudy saying arab players win trade and made it trend in Saudi Arabia, this made cloudy get banned

[oblique scaffold]

or could be 1 guilty and morally wrong

[serene gazelle]

shes the one guilty because shes spreading misinfo

[rugged quest]

Both are guilty in the eyes of saudi court but im not looking at it from legal perspective, him doing it is bad whether he can get legally prosecuted or not

[oblique scaffold]

did cloudy get banned?

[weary talon]

Yes

[balmy wolf]

If she take it in court in Saudi Arabia, yzn punishment will be extremely severe

[oblique scaffold]

LMAO

[weary talon]

Banned from official blizzard competitions for some time

[balmy wolf]

They don't joke with such things

[oblique scaffold]

yea saudi is also known for severe punishmentws

[rugged quest]

Yeah i know saudi laws are very strict when it comes to sexual crimes

[balmy wolf]

Yes, he said arabs win trading only

[serene gazelle]

but she didn't because it's not true

[rugged quest]

He called his opponents in ranked "garbage minmaxing arabs" not wintrading

[balmy wolf]

Basically blizzard doesn't want issues with twitter trend

They don't care about other things in general

[rugged quest]

and the opponents were arabs and minmaxing

[weary talon]

Yeah

[rugged quest]

so the cloudy ban was soft imo

[weary talon]

They banned so many players for so little

They banned Bumper from overwatch league because him throwing a quickplay game went viral on social media

[balmy wolf]

I see well, he deserve it

[rugged quest]

how

[balmy wolf]

I am arab and I don't minmax

Hence I am biased

[rugged quest]

did he say it to you?

[serene gazelle]

could you please provide me with the clip?

[rugged quest]

you can find it in twitter

[balmy wolf]

Excatly, point is, they don't care as long as it not hurting thier image

[rugged quest]

If he said that "all arabs minmax" or something it would be different

[balmy wolf]

According to yzn who spoke to them

[serene gazelle]

I can't could you please link it?

[balmy wolf]

No but like he meant arabs minmax and its common belief among many European players

[rugged quest]

But he said it to these 2 people that were being toxic to him

he directed it at the 2 guys

[balmy wolf]

He shouldn't of have said arabs

[rugged quest]

Yeah it was distasteful but not worth a ban in my opinion

especially when cloudy apologised and explained that he didnt mean to generalize

[serene gazelle]

oh it's cloudy

cloudy desrves it since he also shit talked during stream

[rugged quest]

If we banned people for shit talk everyone would be banned

[serene gazelle]

I said

he also

[balmy wolf]

Anyway at least wining world cup seem to make people like us more online

And in game

[serene gazelle]

it's just this time because ksa is involved and people want to ruin others rep

dumb racism all around

[rugged quest]

Im a big fan of the ksa squad for the most part

but you cant deny some of the controversy around certain players

its not just racism

[balmy wolf]

I mean yea true but like doesn't mean they are bad and this win trading minmaxing will always happen even if they stop, blizzard should fix this basically, I'm sure others used it too, and yea you aren't racist but many who joined anti Saudi side are, it become an ethnical national thing and yzn ended up becoming defender against western imperialism, he got ton of donations and popularity, blizzard should of have punished him after world cup

Most people believe blizzard wanted Saudis to lose

Even religious leaders and far right nationalists tried to use this issue

Glad it's all over safely though

[weary talon]

Ksa deserved to win

Been working hard in emac contenders and it was their meta to win

And it feels good to finally see majed win

Also

Ksaa is cool 👍

[vale cobalt]

https://fxtwitter.com/BenBest_Ow/status/1721224410965918008/photo/1

reunited after 3 years

https://fxtwitter.com/BenBest_Ow/status/1721224410965918008/photo/2

[weary talon]

The most iconic owl teams oat are probably

Hunters, Spark, Dragons, Fuel , Shock and London

And paris

[brittle nebula]

an ore owned the world cup

[icy cedar]

Happy B-Day LIP

[static pond]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/17oakem/crusty_and_ninek_secretly_coached_team_ksa/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Lmao damn if this true

[rugged quest]

Even if true i dont think it makes big difference

ksa just played meta

[robust patio]

💀

[rich canyon]

Wish China won but it be like that sometimes

Finland kicked ass

[midnight fjord]

I wish Saudi 3:0 tbh

[robust patio]

saudi aint that good

[static pond]

That’s wild because there both very good coaches make a huge difference

[rugged quest]

Comp wise ksa just played the same meta that was established in owl playoffs with no adjustments other than "they have monkey go bastion"

ig it can be helpful when it comes to little details but they already had a really talented coach

theyre one of the top dogs in this meta whether its true or not

[robust patio]

it is true, ksa is strong only in this meta

if blizzard let korea recruit someone and mer1t with gunba as coach wed win with this meta

korea dive rosters playing poke

[feral zodiac]

Nyxl not being here is crazy

[robust patio]

this is paris eternal 2020 almost

[gusty rampart]

horrible list

[stoic bronze]

Fuel was only relevant in 2018 until they picked up em

[tawdry hamlet]

Fuel, NYXL, Dragons, Shock, Fusion, London, Vancouver,

Imo

And probably Seoul too 🙏

I think in terms of like fame

Then a tier below teams like outlaws

Then a tier below that teams like Toronto

[robust patio]

in terms of fame vanc tops

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk it's a toss up, vancouver, Shock, and nyxl were all hugely popular at points

[robust patio]

time when they had ryujehong twilight fissure shockwave haksal jjanu

[tawdry hamlet]

Like jjonak pine era nyxl was insanely popular

[robust patio]

yes

[tawdry hamlet]

Vancouver win streak era was insanely popular

Idk who was more tbh

[robust patio]

haksal ryu nano genji

op

[split flume]

shock and dallas are the two most popular teams

[tawdry hamlet]

Xqc buff and 2 time champ buff brings a lot of popularity true

[robust patio]

yes

valiant the most unpopular

team

[stoic bronze]

Uprising too maybe

Or justice

[robust patio]

justice yes

but uprising nah

uprising with kellex leejaegon kariv kalios izayaki birdring twilight and more

[hot onyx]

uprising pre 2023 is definitely up there

[balmy wolf]

Tbh this world cup was very high level which actually showed how fun Overwatch esport can be

[reef seal]

watch OWL

it’s way higher

All the vods are still up

[sullen berry]

I can see this being controversial, but you could assume that they overdone it with the resources to beat the team from China

Further down the thread, there's a screenshot of nohill saying that majed spent 2 months practising solely the genji 1v1 on illari

Doesn't this sound awfully familiar to that 2021 countdown cup drama

[hard forge]

https://twitter.com/super_ow/status/1721153481661145145?t=DlAPHAFuY5jT6r10XwK0MQ&s=19

@this chat ..

[serene gazelle]

here we go again, when ME teams are involved people seem to love to bring up unrelated topics

[sullen berry]

I mean what do you expect from a super fan account

[hard forge]

This sounds like its an insult

?

[sullen berry]

There's two things that don't add up - it's actually good

But people are going to read that and not realise it isn't super

[hard forge]

If u were in this chat at all these past few weeks, you'd understand full well. Many people would agree.

[serene gazelle]

but why would you do it in the first place

[hard forge]

People aren't as stupid as u think. It doesn't change the content of the tweet or its relevance

Bear in mind this person is not addressing the ksa team, who aren't in the wrong here

[sullen berry]

People aren't as stupid as u think

Just trust me, some of them are falling for it in the comments section

[hard forge]

He's addressing the massive amounts of fans being bigoted for no reason, in a space where inclusivity has always been important.

[hard forge]

That's fair enuf. But again unrelated to the validity of the post.

[sullen berry]

I never said it wasn't valid.

[hard forge]

Important, but disregarded nontheless. It's a shame

[hard forge]

Do what?

[serene gazelle]

mention things outside of esports

[hard forge]

Because it's relevant to the world cup.

[sullen berry]

Well it happens quite a bit during the offseason

[hard forge]

Also that^

[serene gazelle]

no it ain't

it's not ok

[hard forge]

There isn't owl rn. Also esports isnt only owl

[tawdry hamlet]

Dantes recent tweet was funny lmao

[hard forge]

What r u on about.

[hard forge]

RIGHT

I wish i couldve seen his response

[serene gazelle]

it's not ok to bring up or discriminate others in a video game esport

[hard forge]

Exactly

[serene gazelle]

both sides

[hushed carbon]

Anyone know how I can get into a e-sports team?

[serene gazelle]

be good enough ig

and sign a contract

[reef seal]

everyone normal agrees

thats not what they're talking about

And it is true there are a lot of bigoted KSA fans

[serene gazelle]

all I care about is game and not race

[reef seal]

^

[lusty heron]

How did korea come 4th💀

[split flume]

they took the ego duel against china and played dive

and then finland popped off

[lusty heron]

Last time i watched owl dive was hard meta

[balmy wolf]

Brawl is today

[reef seal]

it’s sigma brawl now

KR didn’t bring their roster that won OWL with sigma brawl

Lmao

[balmy wolf]

I think anyone who speak about religion politics or social issues in the gaming scene is a total bitch, but I also understand that some are doing it for fame and money

[robust patio]

exactly

[robust patio]

exactly

if they brought Someone with mer1t they wouldve easily won

[balmy wolf]

Basically you get more followers if you start controversial bs

[lusty heron]

Crazy the whole meta can change during the tournament

Did owl play on the live patch?

[balmy wolf]

https://twitter.com/Kaju_ow/status/1672928511093272576?t=F_AeXxDELGGPVaEEMQSP3w&s=19

[keen abyss]

which means they've had as many years of relevancy as shock

[balmy wolf]

Poland team player kaju just released a tweet about racism within team Poland against Saudis

[keen abyss]

i dont think fusion and vancouver are more relevant than glads but this could be heavy bias

[split flume]

https://twitter.com/supertf/status/1721412756232982545

[tawdry hamlet]

[weary talon]

Not having chengdu on there is a crime

[tawdry hamlet]

I think chengdu are a tier below the top most iconic with glads spark etc. Imo

If owl was as popular as it was in s1 and s2 when leave had his mvp year I'd say they are top but idk

[weary talon]

I simply rate them so highly because of “chengdu zone”

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah I was thinking about that

[weary talon]

That they weren’t hard forcing goats everywhere like some teams (ahem shock ahem titans)

[tawdry hamlet]

Titans roster going their separate ways and like 7/8 flopping on their new team 😟😭

Pain

[weary talon]

Lel

Titans after 2019 was despair

[tawdry hamlet]

Fire Roolf top 1 support line 🙏

[weary talon]

Rawkus jecse >>>

[tawdry hamlet]

Kellex Ripa vs Fire Roolf vs Neptuno Kaan vs highbee wya vs shaz biggoose vs halo myunbong

I'm trying to name the worst support lines of all time

Kariv Kruise is definitely up there lmao

[vale cobalt]

https://fxtwitter.com/eerodaF/status/1720941879435337883?t=zrWJxGCCAzpMq3qbUvri4w&s=19

https://fxtwitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1720940590320505275?t=psD9RdLtQhnNCOXsJBYY3w&s=19

[balmy wolf]

Ksa on top💚👑

[vale cobalt]

first time chatter

[versed pike]

Owl2 announcement ?

[vale cobalt]

bro im re-watching korea vs. finland i got goosebumps again

[sullen berry]

I was on that China hype train like it was Atlanta vs Spark all over again

I've yet to go through the Grand finals game in more detail, but Guxue and Mmonk were playing their hearts out

[vale cobalt]

bro im so happy that EU overwatch won't be underestimated any longer

[balmy wolf]

Yea true, best part of this world cup

[balmy wolf]

Blizzard is basically negotiating with Saudi esport to manage new pvt leagues in all countries interested

Apparently only Saudis can finance it

[vale cobalt]

sadly💀

[balmy wolf]

But don't worry Saudis don't have any cultural expansionist ideas, it's actually inherently against traditional arab culture in arabia

Plus they need profits and most esport fans are not saudis

[hard forge]

I bet there even more teams ljke that. I heard finland are...💀

[static pond]

sounds like scrims gpt leak

[vale cobalt]

lol

[dim gulch]

ur here too

Why's everyone mad that saudi arabia won the overwatch world cup

Its well deserved

the gameplays were insane

[vale cobalt]

first time chatter

[dim gulch]

search up my name i was a member here

[vale cobalt]

you jonied today buddy 💀

[dim gulch]

I left and just rejoined

got messages from 2021

[vale cobalt]

sheesh bros an og

[hard forge]

From what i saw people mostly arent mad but rather surprised, ksa were the obvious underdogs vs kr and china, who were the favourites

I did see some people who were disappointed, but there could be multiple reasons

[dim gulch]

I saw people who are surprised that's for sure

and disappointed too

[hard forge]

The disappointment could be split into ACTUAL saudi haters, and ppl who were just rooting for the other team

[dim gulch]

They're mostly just rooting for the other team (hopefully)

[hard forge]

Theres definitely people who hate team ksa for whatever reasons. I just dont see them on my feed

[hard forge]

🙏🙏

[dim gulch]

Because even in gameplays majority were supporting any team that's been playing against saudi

So I was like huh

That's odd

[vale cobalt]

we're furious about the fans. they're just annoying going to ppl's streams spamming stuff, commenting on ppl's tweets with hate and talk about killing them. as a fan of esports I DON'T like this kind of behavior from KSA fans that's all. fans are pretending like they are the ones who played the game and forget the fact that they won because of a korean coach. ggs.

feel free to add if i forget anything about this matter

[dim gulch]

Some saudi streamer was having his chat SPAMMED with LGBTQ emojis even though they knew damn well its disrespectful

[vale cobalt]

i doubt it

[dim gulch]

I was in the stream

[vale cobalt]

even though its true saudi does 10x of that

[dim gulch]

💀

[hard forge]

Theres alot of collectivism for sure. They tend to use the terms "we did this" "we played that" "we crushed them" instead of saying " our team"

[dim gulch]

I saw it happening in front of me

[hard forge]

Id support this against only 2 saudi streamers that i know of

Cuz theyre bad people and they started with the disrespect

[vale cobalt]

u said they spam yes sure

but

saudi fans spam

every fkn streamer

• twitter

[hard forge]

Literally

[vale cobalt]

didnt u see cloudy discord

twitter

[hard forge]

Every streamer, no matter who

[dim gulch]

cloudy himself was talking shit on saudis especially the streamer

[vale cobalt]

ppl SENT TERRORIST PICTURES

[dim gulch]

he got that coming to him

[hard forge]

They were even in a kiwi streamers chat💀

[reef seal]

😂

[vale cobalt]

bro stil defends saudi

xd

[hard forge]

He got punished, no?

[dim gulch]

he did

the saudi one did too

wasn't he banned from world cup

[hard forge]

I saw, these actually made my heart drop.

[vale cobalt]

bro i saw some terrorist stuff it was disgusting

[robust patio]

u havent seen cloudy getting spammed

[reef seal]

Yes

[robust patio]

💀

[dim gulch]

I haven't seen that

tho

[vale cobalt]

bro made a tweet after 3 min 1.5k comment

[dim gulch]

One of the saudi team members came out and said that this behavior isn't acceptable

[dim gulch]

Lol nice

[vale cobalt]

?

[hard forge]

Is it majed?

[dim gulch]

cloudy had it coming

like him or not

[vale cobalt]

"lol nice"

[dim gulch]

yeah

lol nice

[vale cobalt]

fk u

[dim gulch]

here again to confirm it for you

i'll pass

[reef seal]

I really don’t care SA won but their fans saying their players are the best are simply delusional

[vale cobalt]

idc

[dim gulch]

ty

[sullen berry]

"Bros on OG"
Me:

!!joined

[young fractal]

You joined on Jul 14, 2016

[hard forge]

Chill.

[sullen berry]

[dim gulch]

of course you'd edit that

[reef seal]

Just so funny to me

[dim gulch]

shows your hypocrisy

[hard forge]

Mods have chat logs btw ana

Theyre not stupid.

[dim gulch]

they do

that's the funny thing

[vale cobalt]

bro says its "not acceptable" but laughs under his mask

[robust patio]

https://fxtwitter.com/ALDOSRYLJ/status/1721286335720267873

[vale cobalt]

💀

[dim gulch]

ah yes

[vale cobalt]

garbage fans

[dim gulch]

so if he says something nice he lied

[robust patio]

yes

[hard forge]

Jesus

[dim gulch]

if he didn't say anything nice he's straight up a garbage "saud" like u said

[vale cobalt]

its what they do

[reef seal]

Jesus

[dim gulch]

ur just seething

lemme guess ana

ur from Finland?

[vale cobalt]

no

[dim gulch]

China?

[vale cobalt]

im defending the victims here

[dim gulch]

Iceland perhaps?

[vale cobalt]

no and no

[dim gulch]

who are you to say who's the victim and who's not

Don't make it about you

[vale cobalt]

💀

[reef seal]

Iceland 😭 tragic roster

[hard forge]

Its very clear to everyone lol

[robust patio]

hes from a country starting with s

[dim gulch]

both teams had bad sides

[dim gulch]

Nobody's victim

[vale cobalt]

🤫

[dim gulch]

that's the truth

[robust patio]

:3

[dim gulch]

no team can control their fans

that's another truth

[reef seal]

Cloudy said the truth about yzn btw and the KSA fans vilify him

[hard forge]

Not only ana. Theyre going about it the wrong way, but ana is right about saudi fans. That's without even knowing arabic and seeing the shit they say

[dim gulch]

saudis enjoyed it they laughed about it and rubbed it against cloudy's face who deserves it

cloudy and the other saudi streamer got banned from world cup

justice delivered

[vale cobalt]

"they're arabs they min max and they wintrade" but got banned for telling the facts...

[robust patio]

why is yzn posting tweet every 0.01sec about saudi win, acting likes hes on the roster

[hard forge]

Cloudy was being a weirdo too. But imma be honest his words could be misconstrued, unlike yzn and legendry

[vale cobalt]

xddd

[reef seal]

His words were misconstrued but the other parts are right

[vale cobalt]

he was telling the facts

[dim gulch]

its his team

his friends actually too

[vale cobalt]

he explained WHY he said that after

made a statement

[dim gulch]

ur just coping ana

get over it

[vale cobalt]

even in the suravasa game

he explained

its about ow arabs

not the ppl

[reef seal]

I like how this guy joins the server to talk shit

[robust patio]

when koreans won, they dont spam tweets every millisecond and spam other countries tweets

[robust patio]

he says hes og

[dim gulch]

me?

When did I talk shit

[vale cobalt]

ALL TOP 4 TANKS OF TOP 500 LEADERBOARD MIN MAXED AND 3 OF ALL 4 WINTRADED. ksa minmaxed but didnt wintrade, iloveu wintrade + minmax, blackswordz wintrade + minmax (biggest wintrader of all of them) and yznsa wintrade + minmax

[dim gulch]

I said saudi won and deserved it

because they played well

[vale cobalt]

EXACTLY

[dim gulch]

and

[reef seal]

Not a single person is disagreeing

By the way

[dim gulch]

how many times do i have to say no team can control their fans

[vale cobalt]

he refered to these scums who wintraded

[dim gulch]

I never said anyone disagrees i was making a statement

[reef seal]

blackswordz lmaooooo

[dim gulch]

and asked a question

[reef seal]

That guy 😂

hog to gm but stops streaming around masters

50-4

[serene gazelle]

scotland?

[vale cobalt]

i said ur a wintrader on this chat i got banned

bro read what i wrote first

he was furious

[reef seal]

you’re right (he is)

[vale cobalt]

started swearing in arabic

[dim gulch]

anyways how can i mention mods

[vale cobalt]

i had a clip of it

bro deleted it

💀

[serene gazelle]

modmail

[vale cobalt]

funniest shit i've seen

[dim gulch]

i mean you said something racist just now and edited it

that's a lot worse than deleting it if u asked me

its pity

[vale cobalt]

91% wr on hog rank1 VERY POSSIBLE XDDD

[reef seal]

I think it is doing it legitimately but he is not good at the game

[vale cobalt]

classic

[robust patio]

tbh owwc doesnt mean anything, their skill lvl is not compared to owl

[reef seal]

If only south korea chose their team that ran the sigma comp

but unfortunately they did not choose any of those players

At all

[vale cobalt]

it's a tournement for players to be picked up by the professional stage

i agree

[robust patio]

i mean during qualifiers, it was a dive meta

[vale cobalt]

vestola will be picked up for example

[reef seal]

Whyd they change the patch

[vale cobalt]

same with mickji if he doesnt leave srpeakcheck 😭

[robust patio]

exactly

[reef seal]

quartz KSAA should also be t1 as well imo

Just based off of skill

[vale cobalt]

ksaa is great he was in owl

[robust patio]

vanc

and got benched

[reef seal]

Wasn’t he on 250 ping

[vale cobalt]

quartz got an offer by florida mayhem pre season of season 6

[reef seal]

I don’t remember anymore

[vale cobalt]

gunba said it

[reef seal]

bro could have gotten a free ring

[vale cobalt]

language barrier

• future of owl was unsure

nice choice by him

he had to stop going to school if he chose to do it

[reef seal]

I see, fair enough

[robust patio]

why is quartz going to skl

[reef seal]

because esports are unstable

[vale cobalt]

they chose merit since quartz and shy declined their offer

[reef seal]

Mer1t is insane

[robust patio]

his hanzo killing entire gangzhou

[vale cobalt]

his good yes but happy better imo

[hard forge]

Majed was in mayhem too tho?

They all speak english dont they?

[vale cobalt]

💀

[robust patio]

since when

was majed

in mayhe,

oh wait

he was

[hard forge]

Yep

[robust patio]

they never won i think tho

[reef seal]

he was on defiant last szn

[robust patio]

he got moved to toronto

[hard forge]

Defiant last szn, he was in mayhem a while ago

[reef seal]

rupal is way better anyways

[hard forge]

He looked so young lol

[reef seal]

He is young

he was born 2004

[hard forge]

Hes my age

I meant mych younger

[reef seal]

according to liquidpedia

[robust patio]

Someone is also 2004

[reef seal]

Holy

[hard forge]

Grandpas fr fr

[robust patio]

blizzard shouldve let korea change rosters

[reef seal]

I’m curious to see which t1 players stay or retire

[robust patio]

after patch

uGH

[robust patio]

Lip said he would retire after winning owwc during stream

idk if hell retire anyway

or join 2024 owwc, if it ever happens

[reef seal]

It depends on microsoft imo

[vale cobalt]

kalios is arab now

bro has the flag and all

[reef seal]

Let’s see what they want to do

Yeah I saw some players posting for saudi league

can’t tell if they’re trolling or not

[hard forge]

Dont say if😢😢😢

It HAS to come back😢😢😢

[robust patio]

we pray for Microsoft

they own so many games holy

[reef seal]

Yeah they do

Wonder if COD will make a comeback

[robust patio]

ow is not there, but it is there

most famous ones i know, are Mojang,ow, forza,halo

[reef seal]

halo fell off

[robust patio]

so did forza

[robust patio]

Lip's fan

drew this for his bday