esports-discussion

[cloud latch]

ana did actually

[mortal cipher]

Yeah that’s what the Dextero article said

[plush grail]

Ummm ackshually u int my games

[vale cobalt]

good

[mortal cipher]

So if it continues it’s not gonna be run through (B)Lizzard

[stoic crow]

what does f dps mean? flank dps?

[vale cobalt]

this is what i was saying remember

[timid phoenix]

flex dps

[mortal cipher]

Flex DPS

[vale cobalt]

💀

[mortal cipher]

This is TF2 or LOL

[stoic crow]

ah that makes more sense

[mortal cipher]

YRAH

[stoic crow]

im new to this lmao

[mortal cipher]

Ah gotcha

Makes sense

The roles are confusing at first

[stoic crow]

ik what flex dps is just like didnt make the connection

[mortal cipher]

Dps alone has like 3/4 different role names

[stoic crow]

what are they?

[stoic crow]

main flex what else?

[stray quarry]

hs

[mortal cipher]

There’s Flex Hitscan and Projectile

[stoic crow]

oh thats not what im used to

im used to 2

flex and main

[mortal cipher]

Yeah back when they had 4 roles there used to be Defense as well

[stoic crow]

main = hs and flex is like projectile

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[stoic crow]

ik i played ow in 2016 just new to the esports and like role theory

[stray solar]

I assume this means they’re going to outsource and let third party organizers run OWL so we’ll see shit like faze in OWL next year

[stoic crow]

ye

[stray solar]

That’s lame

[stoic crow]

agreed

[timid phoenix]

its probably for the best

[mortal cipher]

Yeah I remember coming back in 2020 and being confused when there was role lock and3 roles and the character changes

[stoic crow]

true

[vale cobalt]

no bobby moment again pls

[stoic crow]

i came back right before ow2

[vale cobalt]

bobby dont touch the new org

pls

[mortal cipher]

So just the normal stays but probably not city names

[mortal cipher]

Yeah I didn’t have ow in 2019

[stray solar]

Probably, hopefully they at least keep the casters

[stoic crow]

trueee

[timid phoenix]

I'm sure some of them they could get back

[stoic crow]

jake better stay

[vale cobalt]

im ok with no vikkikitty, lemonkiwi, nekkra

[timid phoenix]

but someone like Uber? idk if he will want to stay if he gets a better offer

[stoic crow]

wait

that desk

[stray solar]

Soe and Jake literally cried yesterday

[stoic crow]

ooops

[mortal cipher]

Hopefully and also keep the colors as well and maybe we’ll get more unique color pallets instead of like 3 shades of red

[stoic crow]

wait new team skins?

[mortal cipher]

Potentially not sure we’ll see

[stoic crow]

like tsm? black and white

[mortal cipher]

Maybe

This is just a thought

[stray solar]

I assume all of the current teams will dissolve and we’ll see more common teams like faze, evil genius, team liquid, navi, etc

[stray quarry]

some of the current teams are run by orgs already

[flint pagoda]

May the outlaws and mayhem have a rematch at the next finals🤞

[stray quarry]

misfits nrg cloud9 etc

[weary talon]

Swag messiah

[weary talon]

L

[stray quarry]

Overwatch League 2

[weary talon]

Lemonkiwi is awesome

[stray quarry]

?

they’re good casters

[weary talon]

I like

Vikki too

Its just her voice is like the voice of someone who smokes 10 packs a day

[flint pagoda]

I need to buy team skins fast

[weary talon]

Tbh all of our casters in owl have been great

[stoic crow]

trueeee

[stray solar]

Same lmao

I want a few dragons skins

[flint pagoda]

As long as they manage to show some hype they’re fine

I’m gonna rock some championship pink

[stray quarry]

the spark

(Delusional)

[flint pagoda]

I hope this season’s championship skin doesn’t come a year too late like Dallas’

[vale cobalt]

they're NOT

[weary talon]

I Hope we get a sigma championship skin

[vale cobalt]

im right and you know it

[flint pagoda]

Does anyone know when the sojourn ocean goddess skin drops?

[vale cobalt]

during world cup

[weary talon]

Sure they dont over analyze stuff and explain the teams ult econs

But they’re fine

[flint pagoda]

Sojourn or tracer are my wishes but the sig comp has been a key to the playoffs/GF run

[weary talon]

Lemonkiwi + leg day carried apac

Mr x is the goat

Mr x and uber

[flint pagoda]

They can take a year and drop one skin for each team for the memories before a new league starts but no way it happens

[vale cobalt]

they're very awful

[stray quarry]

????

how do

they get the job done and they’re pretty hype

[vale cobalt]

no comments

[stray quarry]

I don’t recall any egregious mistakes

[vale cobalt]

ehm

[plush grail]

ping spike

u said it yourself

i just got unlucky

[mortal cipher]

Same I might get all then get a skin for every other

[cloud latch]

:copium:

[mortal cipher]

lol

[stray quarry]

like if your only stance is “they’re terrible casters I’m right youre wrong” then you must not feel that strongly about it

[vale cobalt]

i never said that

stop creating sentences that i didn't say

[plush grail]

vikkitty sucks because legit her voice is horrible

idk how she ever got a job as a caster

[vale cobalt]

“they’re terrible casters I’m right youre wrong”

how are these two sentences same?

[flint pagoda]

I should’ve started watching owl earlier

I only got 1000 tokens ish total

I can barely get anything

[balmy wolf]

I just think generally the casters been really good and giving off nice good vibes for every owl game they made from past to now and honestly I wouldn’t change it one bit 🙂 but that’s just me

[plush grail]

they for sure all have different styles

some are more professional

and some make WAY too many bad jokes

[flint pagoda]

Same
Really enjoyed watching the games

[plush grail]

aka legday

[vale cobalt]

viki nekkra lemokiwi is just cringe

stop defending lol

everyone knows it

[worn falcon]

REAL

[balmy wolf]

I would even consider rewatching the matches from scratch if anything lol

[vale cobalt]

as soon as they cast chat does "not these casters again"

[plush grail]

nekkra is fine imo

[flint pagoda]

https://x.com/ow_checkmate/status/1708902886216790222

Checkmate (@ow_checkmate)

I missed my flight.. this is real

Likes

249

Twitter · Oct 2, 2023, 5:52 PM

[stray quarry]

read

[worn falcon]

L checkmate

[vale cobalt]

i never said “they’re terrible casters I’m right youre wrong”

[plush grail]

lmaoo he has to use his grand finals money on a new ticket lol

[flint pagoda]

Checkmate is my favorite player

[worn falcon]

Which is like 500 bucks

[flint pagoda]

Sure he didn’t pop off like merit did on the finals and nor did he lead the team comps with the sig/rein comps but he was consistently good and gave the results

[balmy wolf]

Feels like karma for staggering

[flint pagoda]

And his walls saved us like 10 times

[stray quarry]

why would you trust YouTube chat in any way

[stray solar]

LMAO

[stray quarry]

all they do is spam “winton” and team slogans

[balmy wolf]

Not to sound toxic or rude obv considering how ropal (sorry don’t even remember the name of the other supp playing brig/lucio) but the face expression when Boston was staggering was priceless

[stray quarry]

chorong

[balmy wolf]

Clearly could feel the hostility between Uprising and mayham

[stray quarry]

mayhem have staggered smurf before I think

was it smurf

just a game strat nothing more than that

[balmy wolf]

I don’t think they have tho the times they tried he manage to either get out or just have their supp somehow save him from clutch death

But I generally think if Boston had profit I think they could have pulled it off

[stray quarry]

profit fell off

[balmy wolf]

Cause if I’m not wrong profit, decay and smurf played in Seoul dynasty if I’m not wrong

[stray quarry]

and decay + birdring are solid dps in their own rights

[balmy wolf]

Yeah ofc I’m not trying to say birdring was bad or anything just feeling their was gap on dps follow up from curtain dives Smurf wanted to pull off

[flint pagoda]

Shu got the worst of it

[stray quarry]

baptiste players have it rough

[flint pagoda]

On ana in new junk city on the first mayhem Houston game I wanted to cry for him

[stray quarry]

I don’t think I saw that one

[flint pagoda]

He was bodybloxked and surrounded in a passage lol

[stray quarry]

OH I DID

[flint pagoda]

Just got punched to death

[stray quarry]

no ledge to jump off LMAO

[balmy wolf]

I felt that big hope during the first map window happy with lamp and wall value was huge

Really felt like Huston was going to really give them a real fight for the trophy

[flint pagoda]

First map I thought we were going 1-0 Houston

Then Florida decided to arrive at the last fight of the second point

[balmy wolf]

I think Huston fucked it up a bit by getting to cocky going hanzo echo tho

All tho he did pop off with hanzo really sick headshots

[flint pagoda]

Houston also did well on sojourn then immediately after the overclock swapped back to bastion for some reason

[balmy wolf]

Yeah I mean trying to keep that pressure of burst dmg I don’t blame em they just didn’t want to give Florida any moment for a breather

[flint pagoda]

I wanted us to lose map 4 so we can have a final widow duel of overwatch league

But Houston gave the league the best closure they could with the Winston meta

[balmy wolf]

Or try to set something up which I guess backfired for outlaws for being very hasty I guess or just to impulsive all tho the dva pick was really bad against a Mei and sigma

[flint pagoda]

I think we just had it figured out much more than Houston

[balmy wolf]

Yeah

I think Huston was trying to copy Floridas plays

[flint pagoda]

We knew which comp we can do very well and the comp that Houston were going to copy, then we found the counter comp

[balmy wolf]

By making those small swaps

[flint pagoda]

I wouldn’t say copy

[balmy wolf]

Considering how well it worked for Mayham so I think that just ruined it

[flint pagoda]

Just if something works and gets value you want to match that value on your end

[balmy wolf]

Yeah but during those circumstances Florida swapping one quick moment to kiriko to deny JQ anti blood value or like against Dallas going from Mei to tracer to really be able to reach their support.

Regardless point is just those small swaps giving some sort of value can very easily backfire and get you into the jaws of the beast then putting it down

[hardy sluice]

I have donned mayhem mercy to celebrate

[mortal cipher]

It was good I also saved to 7000+

[balmy wolf]

If I put it like that

[mortal cipher]

I’m still debating what to give mayhem to

[balmy wolf]

Sorry you what XD

[mortal cipher]

Last time it was junk

[balmy wolf]

Junkerqueen or junkrat? XD

[mortal cipher]

Rat since this was for ow1 skins

[balmy wolf]

Still think people need to set it out clear considering I hear people say junk and mean queen and not rat and sometimes other way around barely hear people say junker but that’s just me lol

I mean I would prolly pick a hero from their rosters

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

I forgot

[flint pagoda]

Tracer

[flint pagoda]

It’s jq for junker queen and junk for junkrat

No other option

[hardy sluice]

i am wearing mayhem mercy

bc my boys won this year

[balmy wolf]

Ooooo nice

For me it’s Boston

[hardy sluice]

well one of my boys

my other boys won last year

[balmy wolf]

They were the first time I ever bought my owl skin for

[hardy sluice]

i buy every team skin for the champions, and then i buy some based off color scheme if i have the tokens saved for it

[balmy wolf]

I swore and promised that Boston would make it to the grand finals and win it all (obv didn’t but top 4th beat owl team) got me proud knowing they were up there ^^

[hardy sluice]

ye they did rlly well]

[flint pagoda]

Decay and birdring gave it everything on the game for the finals spot

[balmy wolf]

Smurf is honestly the best tank in my opinion the dude gets the job done even if he dies he takes 2/3 people with him

[flint pagoda]

Top 2 or 3

Def

[balmy wolf]

I am even considering picking up junker just cause of his insane ults all tho kinda hoped to see some ball moments but I guess ball isn’t as valid as the rest

[flint pagoda]

She is by far the most fun tank in my opinion

[mortal cipher]

Maybe but im gonna give it dynasty prob or dragons

[balmy wolf]

I mean I can hit my stuff with her my problem is my self sustain

[flint pagoda]

Maybe echo but I’d give that to pelican so outlaws
Sojourn?

[mortal cipher]

I was gonna give it to pelican as well

[flint pagoda]

You aren’t supposed to go in alone and sustain

[balmy wolf]

Unlike ball regenerating hp and hog able to drink and dva re-mech

[mortal cipher]

Maybe bastion or Ram

[flint pagoda]

Possibly the best echo this season

Checkmate had some crazy moments but not quite like pelican

[mortal cipher]

Best echo since Fleta is argue

[balmy wolf]

If anything I might buy outlaw skin for bastion or for hanzo cause happy

Was insane

[flint pagoda]

You can do a mei for checkmate?

[mortal cipher]

True

[flint pagoda]

Best Mei in the league

[mortal cipher]

I might

Yeah

It’s either checkmate or backbone

[flint pagoda]

I don’t know I want so many skins myself I can’t decide

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

It’s hard when you also have those tourney skins

[flint pagoda]

I want widow sojourn tracer echo and Mei
I suck with half of those but who cares

[mortal cipher]

I think I’m gonna give Spark the sojourn

[flint pagoda]

Fair

[hardy sluice]

what do u think the FL championship skin will be and who will it go to?

[balmy wolf]

So far for me Seoul dynasty Cree from 2020 Seoul dynasty moment of owl Atlanta reign 2021 soldier moment

[flint pagoda]

So checkmate Mei is my second pick

[mortal cipher]

I was gonna do reign or Shanghai but man shy nose bled a win

[flint pagoda]

Lol

[balmy wolf]

However kinda wanna get London spitfire but the owl2 for rein is meh

[flint pagoda]

Worked hard for it

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[balmy wolf]

I’m sure it’s sojourn

[flint pagoda]

What do you give Vegas is the real question

[balmy wolf]

Merit carried so hard

[flint pagoda]

Lw for rak?

[balmy wolf]

Those shots was no joke

[hardy sluice]

fair nuff

[balmy wolf]

It has to be sojourn

[flint pagoda]

Merit popped off on like 2/3 of the fights

But it also wouldn’t have happened if we didn’t figure out the sig comp first

[balmy wolf]

And became MVP

[mortal cipher]

Two revserse sweep to get swept to sweep

[flint pagoda]

Florida should do the unthinkable and give it to lw

[mortal cipher]

Which was more one sided Florida or Shanghai

[flint pagoda]

I didn’t watch that season so no idea

[mortal cipher]

I didn’t catch all the maps since I had nursery during the time

But map 4 was close

[flint pagoda]

I will say that suravasa was 3-2 and second control point was 0-87 to Houston at some point

At the finals

[mortal cipher]

So it was somewhat competitive

[flint pagoda]

For these maps yeah

[balmy wolf]

As mad as I got I can honestly just say congratulations and gj for all those intense matches and really spicy moments (except the staggering that’s a big no no for me) but yeah next time if their will be a next time we will take it home Boston uprising lol

[mortal cipher]

So Shanghai was more one sided it seemed

Hopefully we just get the terrible teams champions so who’s number 5 in s1

[vale cobalt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeI8i_uLzN0&ab_channel=OutlawsFan1

o7

[mortal cipher]

https://x.com/gzcharge/status/1708875491212448114?s=46&t=W9Nuic9WPD_8XIaV4y7UFg

Guangzhou Charge (@GZCharge)

No, no, no idk about you guys, but we're just not ready to leave #OWL2023 behind yet. So @OverwatchLeague, here's our pitch.

🔹 19 OWL teams, 19 SMMs
🔸 (plus @GiantOmelette as ringer for Chengdu)
🔹 Enough people for four 5v5 teams

See where we're going? One last tournament.

Likes

327

Twitter · Oct 2, 2023, 4:04 PM

[sullen berry]

So real @mortal cipher

[mortal cipher]

Wdym

I mean maybe the charge don’t leave

Maybe

[vale cobalt]

Once an Outlaw, Always an Outlaw.

o7

[balmy wolf]

Ngl was really awesome

[icy cedar]

Gm tourney

[vale cobalt]

ikr

[vale cobalt]

lol

[balmy wolf]

Wonder if they got the idea from Ashe ;p

Huston you are the true outlaws of owl and no one can take it from you guys you proved that your second strongest team in the world 🙂

[vale cobalt]

i assume that you're not making fun of our 2nd place

if not, thank you.

2nd place on the midseason madness and play-offs. not bad for the org. im proud of them. o7

[stray quarry]

why does outlaws have a whole ass creator house hidden away

and why do they have such big egos

[timid phoenix]

idk

but they are annoying af

especially enzo

[balmy wolf]

No not really

I mean my team got 4th

Not that it matters regardless but Huston is officially one of the top 6 best team in ow2

[vale cobalt]

lordenzo ❤️

[vale cobalt]

we're the best

[full lichen]

He's one of the ones that got me into playing OW

[vale cobalt]

we all love his pro level gameplays

[stray quarry]

like how do you start beef with albert in ow twt having no idea who he is

and then the outlaws started posting his diamond comp clips on their teams semifinals match day

???

[flint pagoda]

They’re Chinese no? Doesnt sound like they stay

[vale cobalt]

you mean gm clips?

[mortal cipher]

Yeah they’re Chinese but the tweet looks a little like they don’t want to leave and want to stay

[stray quarry]

I think xerneas confirmed they’re taking the money

[mortal cipher]

I think that was faraway which is why I’m confused

[flint pagoda]

Yeah but ow isn’t legal or something in China isnt it? So they might have to

[mortal cipher]

They don’t have a way to play it

[stray quarry]

it was some pretty cheesy shit

[mortal cipher]

It’s not illegal they just can’t play it

[stray quarry]

and why would they post that shit anyways

on outlaws game day

???

[flint pagoda]

He’s just a cocky guy

[stray quarry]

unless it was enzo with access to the outlaws twt account

LOL

[flint pagoda]

Idk I wish they stay but I really doubt

[stray quarry]

they’re pretty broke rn anyways but maybe the players will go other teams

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/LORDENZO/status/1707546047831048271

ENZO 🇵🇷 (@LORDENZO)

@yeHHH Bro acts like he won a medal 😭😭😭

Twitter · Sep 29, 2023, 12:01 AM

❤️

[flint pagoda]

Aged like fine milk

[vale cobalt]

lordenzo my hero

[stray quarry]

I think they did win a medal

enzo predicted mayhem win

[uncut drum]

https://x.com/thecojodojo/status/1707546880635519054?s=20

cojo (@thecojodojo)

@LORDENZO @yeHHH Sir he helped build the team

Likes

212

Twitter · Sep 29, 2023, 12:04 AM

L

[vale cobalt]

F

[uncut drum]

common lordenzo L

[vale cobalt]

is this you?

[stray quarry]

people dug up his shit man

the dating show he flopped in

[uncut drum]

huh

wtf

[stray quarry]

he was on a yt dating show

and none of the girls were interested

like

[uncut drum]

the host or date one

[stray quarry]

at all

[worldly mesa]

:0

[uncut drum]

or somthing like that

[flint pagoda]

Bruh all the teams keep releasing owl tokens codes and I can’t redeem any even if I wanted

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/LORDENZO/status/1708698169943462176

ENZO 🇵🇷 (@LORDENZO)

I’ve only given my heart and soul to the Overwatch community and sought acceptance for the past 6 years.

The amount of lies, harassment, ignorance, bullying and pure vile coming from comments is genuinely appalling simply off of a silly post.

The fake people have been exposed.

Twitter · Oct 2, 2023, 4:19 AM

❤️

[stray quarry]

they keep being redeemed before I can get them ughhhhh

[flint pagoda]

I can’t even try its even more sad

[uncut drum]

lol

he thinks he got hate

[stray quarry]

past 6 years and no one knows who he is

[uncut drum]

lemonkiwi

[stray quarry]

LMAO

[uncut drum]

got mroe

more

and didnt cry about it

[vale cobalt]

XD

[vale cobalt]

HES THE G.O.A.T

https://twitter.com/malcolmt_ow/status/1708892567482364322

Blunt Owl Fan (@malcolmt_ow)

@LORDENZO no one is out to get you bro stop tryna play the victim card. everyone put up with your subpar content the entire year up until you decided to attack Albert on a matter that didnt even concern you. stay in your lane next time "content creator" 💀💀

Twitter · Oct 2, 2023, 5:11 PM

💀

[stray quarry]

he averages 200 views per yt video

subpar indeed

[mortal cipher]

That’s less than subpar

[static pond]

https://x.com/ballsackesport/status/1708583956499640681?s=46

BallsackEsports ®  (@BallSackEsport)

1 season under AVALLA really changes a man

Likes

727

Twitter · Oct 1, 2023, 8:45 PM

Btw apparently Nero almost got in a fight with striker lol

Idk if it real or not tho

[mortal cipher]

On Shock ???

Or irl

[static pond]

https://x.com/ballsackesport/status/1708923222450708714?s=46

BallsackEsports ®  (@BallSackEsport)

Numbani first point is really so fucking ass it ended the season 4 Shock

Likes

179

Twitter · Oct 2, 2023, 7:13 PM

[mortal cipher]

Dang

I mean Season 4 Shock was gonna end regardless tbf

[uncut drum]

liked and retweeted

[vale cobalt]

XD

[drifting canopy]

That must be why he lost shock the last year tournament

did he go to prison?

[mortal cipher]

Nah

I think he talked to girls but nothing else maybe I forgot the actual thing

[earnest leaf]

all mikeyy did was be a cringe weirdo with no game

[stray quarry]

I must be thinking of that other guy then

what’s his name

dream kasper?

[stray quarry]

Yeah this sounds like something striker would do

[mortal cipher]

Yeah he boomed Taiyo from playing

[fast tusk]

i heard that the teams that do end up staying will switch to third party organizers in korea

[vale cobalt]

APEX TIME

[mortal cipher]

Most likely it’ll end up a third party and other teams

So back to the basics it seems

[stray quarry]

wait whaaaa

[mortal cipher]

He got mad a Taiyo to the point he never played another game

[stray quarry]

HOLY

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[wintry kraken]

i suspect there might be some Blizzard 'sponsored' final event, like TI for Dota 2. And one of the main organizers will run it

[mortal cipher]

Yeah there might be more stuff because of this

[wintry kraken]

i mean they might run different qualifying events in different regions (like we had OGN Overwatch Apex in Korea), and teams which qualify from different regions would run for a big money event from Blizz to have some sort of "this years champion". That would make the most sense to me

that would also make geographical distribution of talent more even, tho Korean OW qualifiers would be a bloody war 😄

[tough anchor]

Guys does the encore stream give owl tokens?

[flint pagoda]

I’m gonna leave it on just in case

[tough anchor]

Same

[flint pagoda]

But it’s time to catch up on some sleep after this weekend

[tough anchor]

I have 190 tokens

And i bloody need that reaper skin

[flint pagoda]

No

Save up for the fla

[tough anchor]

For the what?

The chained king is my fav legendary skin

[flint pagoda]

Even though the stream isn’t enough but if it counts you will need just 100 more

[flint pagoda]

Florida mayhem championship skin

[tough anchor]

Hmm

What will it@look like

[flint pagoda]

No idea

They don’t leak it

[tough anchor]

Silly

[flint pagoda]

And probably haven’t started designing it

[tough anchor]

Wowwwww

I love the tracer owl skin though

[flint pagoda]

It’ll definitely have something to do with pink and blue though

[tough anchor]

Its sl good

The free one

You got from the grand finals

[flint pagoda]

Yeah those skins are all dope

[tough anchor]

I love the tracer and widow

[flint pagoda]

I hope I got the 15h playoffs drops

[tough anchor]

I def did lmao

[flint pagoda]

I use the widow gray one more than some of my legendary ones

[tough anchor]

I watched every stream for atleast 5 hours each

[tough anchor]

I use medusa

Love that skin

[flint pagoda]

Don’t have it

I usually do owl gray Ange de la mort or pale serpent

[tough anchor]

I love pale serpent

I wish i’d played ow1

[flint pagoda]

Or the default
default goes hard

[tough anchor]

I look back to starting ow2 with unlocking all the heroes and having no clue whats going on

That was the best

[tough anchor]

Fr its so good

[flint pagoda]

Casual overwatch

[tough anchor]

Yes…

My first main was echo but quickly went to hanzo

After that widow

Ive never really played tank a lot

Wait

Will there be a way for me to obtain owl tokens when owl is finished?

[wintry kraken]

btw last OWL token drops ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn9MczUhaGY

[tough anchor]

Im nit sure

Keeping it on

[limpid mulch]

I remember encores giving tokens

not sure tho

[signal depot]

Can someone explain what encore is and can you get coins from it?

[lunar copper]

Will there be owl 2024? If not, what happens to the esport scene

[full lichen]

No one knows

For sure

[wintry kraken]

encore was "repeat". and most of the time we got coins, but who knows if this one gives. Worst case you let YT video run for nothing

[lunar copper]

What makes people think there wont be?

[hollow briar]

Cuz the teams will most likely vote no to not continue

[wintry kraken]

stream says connected, so it is likely to give tokens btw

[full lichen]

OWL will be paying teams 6 mil if they decide to exit

And teams like Vegas and Charge who've never really done anything will leave

[hollow briar]

Imagine moving to Vegas

And LOSING

Wait it’s only the final match? Lol

[idle ore]

is the grand finals match the last match of OWL since the league is ending for good

[echo zephyr]

YOOOOO ENCORE TIME

[hot onyx]

||TOIL2T GETS TO LOSE A SECOND TIME|| LFG

[tawdry hamlet]

So basically malthel is a super easily influenced teen falling for the Tate style content? and nero and Striker almost fought irl? 💀💀

Also wasn't it revealed mikeyy didn't groom minors he is just a cringe neckbeard with 0 game and not a pdf file

Hence why he's still allowed to play and not universally blacklisted

Also the more and more I hear about Striker the more he sounds like he's Hella toxic to play with 💀

I think he let the finals mvp go to his head 😭

[balmy wolf]

They really showing the grand finals again?

Last chance for tokens baby

[hollow briar]

5 tokens*

[balmy wolf]

Yeah?

5 tokens an hour

[balmy wolf]

Is that not enough per hour?

[hollow briar]

The stream is gonna end soon

It’s only the final match they’re showing

[tawdry hamlet]

And the finals were a 4 0 so it is like 10 whole tokens lmaoo

[balmy wolf]

Yeah I mean if you got on when it first started

[balmy wolf]

10 tokens matter but maybe not when it’s the last time

[tawdry hamlet]

[balmy wolf]

Because I’ve tuned in to every premiere for just 5 tokens cuz they never go more than an hour and now I have a lot of tokens

[tawdry hamlet]

Outlaws posting lordenzo during the playoffs was so goofy and funny

[balmy wolf]

Well not every

[tawdry hamlet]

Still cannot believe they posted a random Lordenzo clip during their Lan appearance 😭

[balmy wolf]

I’m hoping for some announcement about owl store

[balmy wolf]

Why not

[tawdry hamlet]

Now that owl is gone I hope we get context to all past dramas and such

Drama is fun content

[balmy wolf]

Did you see Soe’s goodbye speech?

They were tearing up

[tawdry hamlet]

Jake 😭

[balmy wolf]

Yeah I felt so sad

I joined when ow2 came out so I only watched one season of owl and it was the last but I’m happy I had the chance.

From how they were crying and Soe mentioning how grateful she was, it just tells you owl is definitely ending.

[north relic]

and then they post an encore

after i thought it was gone

[flint pagoda]

For now it’s probably left as is

Until they decide what happens with the league

[balmy wolf]

They’ve already decided. They haven’t told us yet

[flint pagoda]

Thought the vote is only in a few days

Whenever it is or was they’ll probably have a big announcement post about it and talk about the store there

[wintry kraken]

there aren't many options:

1. they convert it to some other OW2 currency (in that case there is a question about earned vs purchased OWL tokens)
2. they tell us to spend the tokens until date X

Then they just disable the whole section and call it a day, just as they removed the original skins for rebranded teams, this time they will remove the whole shop

there is no point in keeping the "team shop" when there are no teams anymore, and they can move the non-team specific OWL skins to other sections of the store, possibly to one of these "get items for legacy coins" sections

[green edge]

lol according to flats in S3 when he was helping out with OWL, they calculated that they would not be profitable if they sold every ticket, every merchandise and with every sponsor

500,000 in the negative

What kind of insane mismanagement is that

https://youtu.be/fkkQ7yd9Pcg?si=w6uKrx3t3t_X8Nz6

[icy kestrel]

I hade more conversations with rupal

I asked if they will be getting a skin like fuel for winning

He said he hopes so

[timid hill]

even if unlikely i kinda hope some form of the teams stick around

or at least i wanna see the same players group together i guess

but idk how that would even look or work out

[uncut drum]

Download this for when you need it

[mortal cipher]

epik

[timid hill]

legend

[balmy wolf]

Yeah I know they’ll remove it but my question is, will they tell us about it before suddenly locking it away? Will they put the skins on sale for one last team or what? I don’t know if i should save my tokens or not.

[earnest leaf]

I doubt they'll just completely remove the owl shop

If they did they would warn people and give them a few weeks to buy what they want

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/LEGDAY/status/1708944945472508085?t=wmsA0rCQ0TYVdfLwEnvnfQ&s=19

LEGDAY, of the League (@LEGDAY)

Thank you for meeting with your adoring fans @Hangzhou_Spark!

It’s truly been an honour telling the stories of your heroic players and all those in APAC over the last two years.

The East Demands Respect. 🤩

📸: @sebdot

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Twitter · Oct 2, 2023, 8:40 PM

still get goosebumps when i remember legday's "the east demands respect" quote

[mortal cipher]

it was grea

t

[vale cobalt]

shy or cloudy has to win world cup

team china & team finland on top ❤

[mortal cipher]

It’s probably China if any

It’s probably gonna be China vs Korea or Japan between those three

[vale cobalt]

japan is ass

finland, china on top

trust me

i know how good these two are

finland destroys every team i scrims

team france, spain had no chance vs. team finland

lhcloudy is just built diff

so much experience he reads the game so well

[robust patio]

tbh finland shouldve won against ksa

[meager onyx]

team china vs Team SK is gonna be interesting

[vale cobalt]

no cloudy no win

they lost cuz they didnt let cloudy play

its not about reinhardt btw

the guy is so intelligent

he creates opperunities from nothing

he flips maps, fakes engages with tp or does the opposite next time, shotcalls, figthplans

he does everything and the ideas comes from him first then ppl discuss it my guy is so smart

they let vestola play but hes not cloudy

[true bronze]

when is the next world cup match

[vale cobalt]

@true bronze end of october

[true bronze]

👍 thank you

[vale cobalt]

uw!

@meager onyx ye

[robust patio]

oct 27

[robust patio]

my prediction for owwc is
kor 🥇
chn 🥈
usa 🥉
fin

rest 4 will be (can,ksa,fra,jap(or aus))

[vale cobalt]

usa has no chance with that cringe ass defiant players bro

they got gator and albert tho

finland first
china second
sk third

[timid phoenix]

gator is more of an issue than having defiant players is

[vale cobalt]

alteria dont

not u too

[timid phoenix]

what

[vale cobalt]

bro stop blaming him

his players were just not flexibale

doghak dive otp

[timid phoenix]

how can I not blame the guy who says he barely coaches

[vale cobalt]

wdym

[timid phoenix]

bro admitted that he didn't actually do much coaching

[vale cobalt]

loool

[timid phoenix]

somehow the team went downhill after wizardhyeong left

[vale cobalt]

rip that guy is so good

tbh we can say the same thing for ninek

he deserves more credit than crusty

i watched the interview where junkbuck and ninek discuss some stuff that no one dared to ask or criticize

for example why doesnt tracer's hp go down after recall if she were 30hp but healed after then recalled

why doesnt her hp go down to 30hp

or why does heroes who weight more pushes the payload as fast as the other ones

[timid phoenix]

probably because that would suck to play as

[vale cobalt]

very 5head person

ninek respect

[timid phoenix]

I don't really care for this, but I think it would make a bit more sense if different heroes walked different speeds

like tracer genji walk a bit faster

but the fact that a hero like roadhog or rein walks the same speed as long Ashe or Cassidy or something is crazy

[vale cobalt]

tracer genji speed shouldnt be allowed

give everyone same speed

or dont do at all

[timid phoenix]

idk why they specifically have higher speed

[vale cobalt]

double jump is too op aswell

[timid phoenix]

I don't mind it tho

nah

[vale cobalt]

it matters tho

it feels like nothing but it actually makes a diff

[timid phoenix]

yeah

[vale cobalt]

have you seen that interview btw?

[timid phoenix]

I don't think I've seen the full interview

[vale cobalt]

https://youtu.be/k9d374d287A?feature=shared

[timid phoenix]

ok actually part of it is having defiant players, kind of. On the main roster they have Rupal / Ultraviolet, so they don't have an actual main support player

[vale cobalt]

theres part 2 too

[timid phoenix]

oh yeah I remembered I watched this, idk how much tho

[vale cobalt]

backbone plays flex supp for uk lol

[robust patio]

finland first

na

china first ill allow

idk about finland

finland will beat usa tho ill give u that

[timid phoenix]

real

[icy cedar]

Colombia all the way [one can dream]

[robust patio]

finland has never gotten top 3 in owwc too

[vale cobalt]

eqo fans be like

[vale cobalt]

no doubt

[icy cedar]

I didn't know EQO till people hyped him up about joining Colombia

[vale cobalt]

who cares cloudy wasnt there before

[icy cedar]

So I now am an EQO fan

I'm just half-Colombian lol

Also half-Mexican and born American

So 3 teams to cheer for

[vale cobalt]

eqo fan eqo fan

[icy cedar]

But I usually favor Colombia

[vale cobalt]

my guy is so mixed

[icy cedar]

Mostly cuz they're the best of the three in Soccer usually

Except for last World Cup, they didn't qualify 😭

[vale cobalt]

😭

[icy cedar]

But Yeah, Colombia > USA > Mexico, except for USA v Mex, I'll cheer Mex cuz underdog

Though USA will prob do better than COL

But I can hope

[vale cobalt]

MEHIKO will win

love the pronounce lol

i took some spanish classes at school i was so bad at it though

[icy cedar]

I read it in Japanese and it's perfect

[vale cobalt]

lage finland on top

[rugged quest]

way better

[vale cobalt]

represent the nordic

[rugged quest]

good thing youre doing all the glazing in this chat so i dont have to

[vale cobalt]

ur welcome

[vale cobalt]

@rugged quest

cloudy is so smart fr

he also plays sigma in scrims now

doom sigma will be very good in world cup

no more circuit & havana reinhardt F

[eternal spire]

Cloudy king

[vale cobalt]

fr

[hard forge]

hey guys, im a bit late but how come everyone's saying owl is over? no s7??

why?

[ocean lagoon]

money

[hard forge]

?

[broken ibex]

Money gone

[vale cobalt]

L

[vale cobalt]

never has been

[broken ibex]

True

[vale cobalt]

[raw sequoia]

so what happens now? are al the owl players just out of a job until or if they decide to make a new type of professional overwatch? if so thats kinda sad and im also very confused about whats happening

[vale cobalt]

asia facific contenders final today lets go

[vale cobalt]

new league soon dont panic

ppl panic too much

[broken ibex]

Ppl panic because we're not being told anything

[hard forge]

?

[hard forge]

yes its very confusing

all im seeing is people being sad but nothing about whats actually gonna happen

[vale cobalt]

im aware of whats going on

new league soon dont worry

i have my sources

[vale cobalt]

they are sad cuz how bobby fked the league

ow had the potential to be the biggest esports

bigger than league of legends

[robust patio]

prime fragi better tank than cloudy

[vale cobalt]

cringe

shame on you

[robust patio]

korea almost lost to prime fragi prime linkzr prime taimou

now korea doesnt even see finland as a threat kekw

[vale cobalt]

wdym

finland is the best

favorites to win wc

[robust patio]

in 2017, korea 3:2 finland

finland very strong team at that time

[vale cobalt]

stop talking about before cloudy's time

[robust patio]

is cloudy in owl

oh he is in paris or vegas

[vale cobalt]

there was so team finland before cloudy

[robust patio]

taimou and linkzr only finland player i respect hehe

:>

[vale cobalt]

my guy forget masaa

best lucio to ever touch the game

[robust patio]

i didnt

also fragi is also goat

but they aint on taimou linkzr lvl

especially taimou

tobi better lucio

[vale cobalt]

bro ur so old minded u dont see the new generator

i bet u havent watched a single pro ow game in 3 years

let alone world cup

[robust patio]

i haveeee

[vale cobalt]

sure buddyyy

[robust patio]

i actually went to lan

for owwc

[vale cobalt]

u havent watched a single game after that cuz its a ded game 💀

[vale cobalt]

[robust patio]

i only watch mayhem and atlanta matches

mayhem cus my irl friend is in it

and im reign fan

[vale cobalt]

i can tell

big L

[robust patio]

mayhem> houston

[vale cobalt]

bros trying to get me angry but it wont work

[robust patio]

na

[vale cobalt]

reign < valiant

[robust patio]

i just dont understand how finland gonna get first

[vale cobalt]

lyar better

[robust patio]

very confused 🤔

[split flume]

[vale cobalt]

cloudy will make it happen

[robust patio]

good luck tho

mhm

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-omg-wow-no-way-wow-whoa-gif-14315875

[raw sequoia]

sorry i have one more question if you dont mind me asking. its probably undetermined right now but will most of the "current" owl players be sticking around because i would perish if i never saw fearless play again lol

[robust patio]

u will see him in owwc

idk if owl will continue tho

i wish it did

[raw sequoia]

oh ok

[rugged quest]

No one truly knows, its a common consensus that we will see alot of retirements now that owl is dead but no one knows to what extenct

[raw sequoia]

damn

welp i can only hope

fearless is my goat man 😭

[robust patio]

idk what will happen after owwc

im sure world cups will continue tho

not sure about owl

[rugged quest]

owl will die more likely than not but ow esports will continue

just under a different brand/format

[robust patio]

they aint making enough money from owl

but from owwc they are o.O

[raw sequoia]

yeah thats what im talking about

i hope to see fearless in other members of professional ow in other ow esports

and*

[rugged quest]

yeah its just a question of resources and investment, when owl goes under and people start building the scene again the money in it will get alot lower than it was

so that alone can mean some retirements

[robust patio]

i think some will move to being a streamer

like ryujehong

[rugged quest]

Not sure how many players have the passion if there is very little money

[robust patio]

they should bring back all stars match

atlantic vs pacific :)

[broken ibex]

The future of eSports is me

[robust patio]

esports will last im sure

its just overwatch esports

[raw sequoia]

ok thanks for the information!

[wintry kraken]

i don't think Blizzard ever did anything "suddenly". Even when Fusion rebranded, they gave us plenty of warning on Twitter that "X is going away soon"

[green edge]

As long as there’s money in it, for sure. I think players will play for less pay if it means not having to put up with Blizzard management but who knows. There’s still a demand for these teams and OW esports

[green edge]

We’re possibly in the worst timeline considering how Blizzard fucked up managing both OWL and PVE despite them being potentially massive cashcows…oh and the base game is barely even that good 🤣

[vale cobalt]

hog main L

[green edge]

OW in general is an amazing game it’s just the recent experience has sucked ass

[vale cobalt]

hog is so outdated

[green edge]

idc about hog

Just talking generally about tanks

And the overall game state

Also yeah hog is very dated and yet it’s taken till season 7 to actually change him, what a joke lol

[vale cobalt]

im just texting random stuff dont mind me

LOL

mid of season 7 btw

7.5 seasons

[green edge]

OW1.5

[vale cobalt]

ow 0.5

[timid hill]

…I like the pve

[vale cobalt]

incomplete

[timid hill]

The difficulty of legendary is at a fun place

[vale cobalt]

rip bozo

its ass

[timid hill]

Ppl just have a hate boner for anything dev team does

[vale cobalt]

[heavy cliff]

anyone have a chart for the owl teams and their respective orgs

[sullen berry]

Have you tried the liquipedia page for the overwatch league?

[robust patio]

just look up liqupedia

it has almost every data

[heavy cliff]

i didnt think they had the orgs too but i'll go look

thanks

[vale cobalt]

> reign

[robust patio]

for respective orgs just go to overwatch league website directly

[heavy cliff]

o2 blast>

[vale cobalt]

cringe

fraud reign

EAST DEMANDS RESPECT!

[heavy cliff]

that was a sick line

[static pond]

https://x.com/yiskaout/status/1709142319486620065?s=46

Yiska (@YiskaOut)

According to BoDork Leave and Shy are making the transition to VALORANT.

The clock is ticking. If a plan for the future is not decided on and presented soon as well as communicated to players, the bleed will be significant.

Twitter · Oct 3, 2023, 9:44 AM

I could see lip fits going too

[heavy cliff]

if LIP goes to valorant idk what im gonna do

How is carpe doing in val?

I know sayaplayer was good

carpe cant be that far behindº

Wait are leave and shy not gonna play in the world cup?

[static pond]

https://x.com/carpe_ow/status/1703455888097345977?s=46

T1 carpe (@carpe_ow)

France was so nice i hope come again one day 💙🥹

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Twitter · Sep 17, 2023, 5:08 PM

Carpe track record Ist the best but

He traveling

Something ow barely had

[static pond]

They are but these are just future plans

[heavy cliff]

I dont blame them

is ow even in china rn=

[static pond]

Nope

Still not

[heavy cliff]

They better get that done fast

Idk how they even let the deal they had go

[static pond]

Think it takes months

[heavy cliff]

or years

its long

[static pond]

To china to approve of it

Longest I heard was a year idk I don’t remember

[static pond]

Both sides are to blame

[heavy cliff]

if i was in their position i would just give up on getting an advantageous contract, just get any type of deal that doesnt make you loose money long term

[static pond]

China company wanted to own or control part of ow

Assuming it was the same thing for there wow game

And one other ip

That a big no tho

[heavy cliff]

I dont see why they would want to do that

[static pond]

Monrub

Money *

[heavy cliff]

Unless its just for censorship, like a slightly different version of the game

[static pond]

And control

[heavy cliff]

Owning a part of overwatch will most likely loose you money

[static pond]

Ya but blizzard wants to own there ips

[heavy cliff]

i mean im stupid they cant own part of overwatch only part of blizzard

overwatch isnt a company

[static pond]

It’s a ip but they wanted control or something

Don’t remember

[heavy cliff]

Control over what?

[static pond]

Ips

[uncut drum]

https://x.com/Bo_Hoogland/status/1709135785872474299?s=20

BoDork (@Bo_Hoogland)

Sources: BiliBili Gaming is looking to add 3 of their Overwatch League players to their academy program in VALORANT.

The organization owns the Overwatch League team Hangzhou Spark.

Duelist duo for the team Leave and Shy are likely 2 of the candidates BLG wants to move to…

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Twitter · Oct 3, 2023, 9:18 AM

[static pond]

Ow

[uncut drum]

we knew it was going to happen

[heavy cliff]

that gives them nothing

[static pond]

It does

Ow was popular in china

One of the biggest games there

So was wow

[heavy cliff]

Yeah just agree to split some of the money made from china ~~

[static pond]

You do realize that if they do that

[flint pagoda]

Valorant will steal all the owl players

Rip

[static pond]

Blizzard won’t 100% own there game

You don’t let other company’s get a hold of your game lol

[flint pagoda]

What do support and tank players do though? Valorant doesn’t have similar gameplay doesnt it?

[heavy cliff]

not the game, just part of the revenue

[static pond]

Bruh they wanted part of it tho like the choice making or something

Not the money

[heavy cliff]

Thats the thing

[static pond]

I don’t get your point

[heavy cliff]

what would they even do with part of overwatch?

[static pond]

Idk

Idk why your asking me lol

[heavy cliff]

Propaganda??? they do that with everything else it doesnt change anything

[static pond]

Dragons might know tho

There own by that company lol

I legit do not know why they want too

[heavy cliff]

Like owning part of blizzard

will loose you money

[static pond]

My only other guess is that

[heavy cliff]

thats not a deal you want

[static pond]

It won’t

Blizzard is own by Xbox now

[heavy cliff]

Did the deal go through?

[static pond]

It’s Activision blizzard

Btw

Not blizzard

[heavy cliff]

i stopped following a few weeks ago

[static pond]

Most likely will

Just waiting for the announcement is

Now*

[heavy cliff]

i dont wanna write the whole thing

Well from what i read for it

they most likely will

but some people dont want it to happen

[static pond]

My guess

Ow will have a deal with um

[heavy cliff]

Sony was actually against it

but i think they made a deal

[static pond]

The company that owns riot

[heavy cliff]

to not take COD games off playstation

[static pond]

There a difference between a deal and buying something

Deal are only temporary

[heavy cliff]

Yeah it was like

idk a few years

[static pond]

Tbh

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/Bo_Hoogland/status/1709136364220957127?t=pdWvF-zAmdBBOsk2fGswwQ&s=19

BoDork (@Bo_Hoogland)

Current support player for Hangzhou Spark Pineapple was initially moving to VALORANT but received an offer from Hangzhou Spark right before making the switch

Twitter · Oct 3, 2023, 9:20 AM

[static pond]

Expect a drop in quo

[vale cobalt]

💀

[static pond]

Quality*

[heavy cliff]

and some other high standing people i think idk who they were, were also against it because they said it was a monopoly

Really?

[static pond]

As far imo

It is

[heavy cliff]

drop in quality?

We can't drop any further

[static pond]

Game pass doesn’t make devs a lot of money of release

[heavy cliff]

Well games sometimes aren't released on game pass

but make it to game pass later on

Also the number of people that have gamepass is wild

especially since its on PC too

And over time

it keeps adding up

[static pond]

Number of making games is high

The only game on game pass that was very good is hi five rush

Imo

[heavy cliff]

Theres so many games taht i remember

Sea of thieves is there

forza games

[static pond]

Forza games are mostly reskins tho

[heavy cliff]

Fifa too apparently???? i have no idea how they got away with that one

[static pond]

Sea Ist that good tbh

[uncut drum]

we knew it was going to happen

[static pond]

FIFA Ist that good ether

No offense to fifa fans

[heavy cliff]

Doesnt matter if its good a lot of people play it

Just like overwatch

....

....

[static pond]

I dove get your point

Don’t

[flint pagoda]

Yeah but sad to see it happen

[karmic charm]

it probably wont

most ow players are not successful in valo anymkre

[static pond]

Watch them go to paladins

[karmic charm]

there isn't an esports scene in pala

[static pond]

Not anymore??

[flint pagoda]

Stopping to shoot looks like such a painfully boring experience

[static pond]

Damn

[karmic charm]

not since 2019

[static pond]

Lol

[heavy cliff]

People will buy gamepass because they see 50$ games for like 9.99 or whatever the fee is per month, and think its a steal, then after one year they've paid 120$ and counting, and since a lot of people are paying for it, it adds up pretty quickly

[flint pagoda]

Every fight you just stop crouch and shoot

[static pond]

Rip

[karmic charm]

that's wrong

[karmic charm]

9.99 pm for over 100 games is worth it

[static pond]

Not gonna talk about it lol

[karmic charm]

maybe actually over 200

[static pond]

Anymore

[heavy cliff]

Yeah but a lot more people buy it

A lot of those 200 games

are shit

[flint pagoda]

I don’t play the game but don’t you stop whenever your shoot there?

[karmic charm]

not to crouch

[static pond]

You think devs get the full money of the 60 there game pass lol

[flint pagoda]

Still the fights sound a lot more plain

[heavy cliff]

no, but also the ammount of games that are actually 60$ in the game pass, are really small

[static pond]

I’m not talking about it anymore lol

[heavy cliff]

most games there

are like 10 20 30

ok i wont talk about it too

lets agree to not

oh wow

the deal was announced january 18th 2022

its almost gonna be 2 years

Apparently october 18th is the deadline

Idk if thats for the whole thing, or just for aproval from the CMA or whoever else hasnt approved yer

lets hope microsoft can get a deal with china

[green edge]

Doesn’t change the fact that they fucked up managing it

They wanted everything and messed everything up

[vale cobalt]

ur the smartest hog main ive seen wow

the ones i met were so silly and said if they remove hook i will quit the game lol

[green edge]

I just miss being an offtank and not having to rely on my supports if I want to breathe

At least hog lets me do that

[vale cobalt]

whole hog ❤️

go crazy

sickomode

[north relic]

wait if someone’s favorite hero’s main shtick got removed they have a reason to leave the game?!?!!?!!??!!!!!!

[vale cobalt]

no?

ur dad missed his SECOND mvp reward

thoughts?

[meager onyx]

I feel like lip deserves an mvp but not this year

[split flume]

lip, viol2t, smurf, some other players all deserve like

lifetime achievement awards

[north relic]

lip has been a top 3 mvp candidate for 3 years in a row

I’m saying like the main appeal to hog is his hook

and if the only reason you play the game is to play hog it makes sense why you would want to leave

but hook is just not a good ability since it’s op or it isn’t so either you rework hog and remove the soul of the hero or you keep current hog which is probably worse

[green edge]

I think they’ve reworked his hook pretty well so far. Honestly I don’t think he needs a rework, you just need to fix every other character…ana and zen are just extremely oppressive vs tanks

[vale cobalt]

dont remove whole hog best ult in the game 🤩❤🔥

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-overwatch-league-gladiators-la-gladiators-shields-up-gif-13574676

[heavy cliff]

Why does zen have a kick?

Like

When you really think about it

Cant he just shoot

[vale cobalt]

cuz hes to immobile

kick gives him survivalibity

[heavy cliff]

idk whats wrong with not having survivability

as long as you have something else

[vale cobalt]

ur questions are so strange

[vale cobalt]

XD

ur a free kill then

thats why he has a kick to create a distance between him and the enemy

[heavy cliff]

Idk it just feels unnecesary

[vale cobalt]

shin i dont want to be rude but when did you start playing ow

and why are u asking about zens kick in esports channel

#overwatch-serious

write here

[heavy cliff]

oh

i just realised that

i forget to think sometimes

maybe a lot of times

[vale cobalt]

[wintry kraken]

btw the current contenders rewards between Tue, 3 Oct, 09:00 - Mon, 9 Oct, 15:00 CEST is... Contenders Mercy 😄

will mercy mains overwhelm contenders streams again ? 😄