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I see
I feel like taking the blizzard payout is just a way smarter business position but ofc no one knows their true finances. Maybe their owners love the game too.
From what ive heard (my friend who helps run a contenders team, no contact with producers etc) said most likely outcome is they rebrand and find someone else to invest
I see, would make sense then
so different league but mostly same players
Ive also heard contenders will still exists i have no clue how true that is tho
Exist not exists
Viol2t was closest right?
So does super moth and a bunch of other shock players as well as whoru
ye
I wish this wasnt the last year of owl
D:
even if owl dies, i think owwc will still be thing
Wtf are we supposed to watch after owwc
When does owwc end
first week of nov
starting in october 27 i believe
be free
theres probably gonna be charity tournaments & stuff like there always is during the offszn
im sure pros will be in that since they probably wont exactly be scrimming
yeah
Profit void
disagree
what
this upcoming od is going to be the most fire od ever
which part
there’s gonna be 97 t2 teams
and maybe t1 players
like owl people are gonna just make friend teams in a week
and scrim
Can owl pros even play od i thought that was like a thing that was banned
let’s play vs then tahat
or am i just lying to myself
no
dive party banned t2 and t1
od is usually free for anyone to join not actively rostered to owl
or t2
dive party banned anyone who had done so recently
but I doubt this od will
Wouldn’t they still technically be rostered of od starts before what ever happens to the league gets confirmed tho
idk when od starts so if what i just said makes no sense my b
Open division
oh
where anyone can team up and compete in comp ow
like owl style but ranked
Not ranked* idk why i said but
that seems boring tho
im still cooked from owl stream my mind isnt here
Its not
just bring back pacific vs atlantic
all stars game
is this it for the OWL or is there more seasons coming
We dont know but most likely it for owl
not od
damn
it was actually kinda fun to watch
already did multiple times 😭
just got done watching the grandfinals since i was at work
and holy fuck the end had me crying
seeing Jake start crying then Soe lose it at the end it just hurt
sadge
alarm at the end…
I watched szn 1 and parts of 2 that’s it
That’s called a hell no
Bronze League
finally one i can succeed in
Good bye owl :/
Finally the Scrubs can get their turn
you can all watch and learn from me missing my flux over and over
yeah time to make Scrub Overwatch tourneys
that unironically would be fun to watch
i lowkey wanna make something like that happen
I participated in a few, it's so fun

there was the overwatch community cup, which idk what happened with that
Sounds it because everyone is equally bad
how bout
1 gm 1gm
1 m 1 m
1 dia vs 1 dia
1 plat 1plat
1 gold 1gold
unironically 5v5 bronze tournaments would be fun
hell even going up like 5v5 silver, gold, plat etc
Ooh
itd be fun to watch different skill levels and how they play
and gitgud is apparently coming back
so..
i was in another server and mentioned that i'd like to do a tourney locally
but 1) i haven't played in a year now and 2) i don't know where i'll pull the time from
for now yeah
owl as it has been is more than likely done
pro ow will continue to exist in some or fashion tho
seems like it. i heard rumor that charge took the money, and that defiant said yes to stay in the league
so that's 11 more from my understanding to stay in
but as it is now, it might not be likely
need to buy defiant skins asap
also someone just took the doomfist cutout at playoffs
I BEEN SAYING IT, MAYHEM ON TOP
The 4 bottom are now champions
But until they announce as slim as it is there is a chance
whichever team has their gold on ms wins
No we need the lower ranks
Honestly just put the player with the best aim on 76 with a mercy pocket
1 silver (manager) 1 bronze (head coach)
i know im late but florida mayhem wooooo
@vale cobalt im a bit late but I told you
o7 you will be missed
People have been taking the cutouts
I know skiesti walked out with the mercy cutout
and fareeha took the jq one
Rip OWL for the uncertainty 
Does Florida still get a championship skin ?
Yes
is anyone elses owl drops not working for them
i watched all the playoffs + finals
didnt get anything
You had to refresh the page well the stream was still going to get drops
It's literally collegiate 2018
ladies and gentleman, your top 5 worst brackets courtesy of this server's collective brain cells
@uncut drum gg ez
Lol
😭
I mean im happy my preds were boomed
london 3-0 and the spark reverse sweeps were insane
heck even the outlaws losing the first mayhem match 0-3 before ending the spark's run with a 3-0 is so wild
Wow in first
🫡
will owwc be a lan event?
correct
lol
i been to so many lan events including this year owwc matches :D
Jake was gone as soon as she started
alarm ❤️
Legday and Lemonkiwi barely held it together
bro has experienced what does it feel to be a player, coach and a part of the staff
so he knows
everything
bro tasted every part of the owl
True
I really hope he stays among the overwatch esports scene
Or at least content creation
hes still top 50 player in dps lol bro is not rusty
wasn’t that 1-3
is there gonna be a grandfinnals encore?
doubt
all the costreams for different regions happened all at the same time
you can't get more hours watching previous streams
and encores were for midseason madness because the matches are in Korea, in a different timezone
What server is that
The overwatchleague reddit? Or a different one
comp ow
I blame spark
Is the league actually over because everyone's so sentimental about it but i've yet to see an official confirmation
el finisho
done
gone
its the grand finals, why wouldn't people start getting sentimental like it could be their very last OWL tournament?
I was thinking of infernal not mayhem whoops
Outlaws the APAC Killer
we killed every one of them
but in the end it wasnt enough
im proud of my guys
o7
because someone is the tank of all time
yeah somebody posted a winnings table of all the OWL teams
Team USA
you're rooting for your country i respect that. unfortunately my country couldn't even qualify for the LAN event.
I'm sorry, maybe next time
There's always next time
Like next year Mayhem will win OWL again (Yes, I believe)
what owl?
team sweden hard threw. we had a garbage coach.
yessir
kevster tried his best
unfortunately sparkr flopped in owwc
bro was lost on sombra
sparkr hard carried bro
wdym
we had dps players as our backline
scyle isnt a flex support
hes a dps but he played support for an unknown reason when we had h9mpe
and why the fk did lulish play when we had theomatic
What if h9mpe was injured?
cloudy call thomatic as mr. sweden
he played on last games and he was streaming ow bro hows he injured
xd
as i said, bad staff
good players
Coaches were cooking
does anyone know what chinas owwc team is?
i cant find it
Nvm i got it
wait whats farway doing there
Florida got all of the awards except AROTY
i know
all spark players + farway1987 from charge
cuz hes goated ana
they have mmonk already
they dont need an ana one trick
you always need another player of their caliber in case of things go wrong
farway isnt an ana otp
bap zen player too
where did you get that idea from?
just cuz i said hes goated ana doesnt mean hes an otp XD
I guess?
But purely from recency bias, lengsa might be better than farway on like a kiri
has farway ever been on an actual team?
Oh he was on chengdu
i forgot about that
Is it me or have main supports been playing a lot of flex
it seems weird
Maybe i just now noticed it
but also the whole main support sub-role is just lucio and brig
Viol2t mercy was a real ms show
Mercy echo with pelican is deadly
so good
Why play mercy over any other character?
pelican doesnt need that
just play ana
Idk but they did echo mercy on ilios pretty sure
Also
These playoffs
You’re underestimating the hitbox of her bullets
since in owl people can actually hit shots
Yeah well people in owl have good positioning they don’t just ga to cross the well or something
She’s just not strong enough to be meta
they know exactly where you are going
when ur gonna be there
The only way for mercy to be meta is for either her res or dmg boost to be broken
5 man res when
Also res is bs
you can run an advanced 5 man rush, and since supports are broken, you litteraly have to give everything to deal 200 damage that isnt healed, and then
res
0 skill
takes less skill than counter picking
you dont even need to choose who to res
The annoying part about mercy is that you get so much value if you hard pocket a good player and that doesn’t take any skill
Doubt mercy players enjoy that either
Spilo had an interesting idea for a mercy rework to make her much less hard pocket style
Imagine ur a genji, you blade a character, you get half ur slashed outhealed, you finally get a kill, dash away
but nah
res
30 second cooldown
Have you every tried blading a pocketed sojourn? i have, not fun
I have like 10 hours on genji and 8 of those were back when I started so didn’t actually know how to play
So I don’t know the genji struggles
I know the struggle of diffing another widow just for her to get a res then she knows where I am and kills me
Then we lose the fight
How did the grand finals go
True in dia and above
Like zen
Mayhem 4-0 outlaws
nah
boring
Ah.
Sadge
Ngl i have massive respect for people that play genji in owl
I remember when sp9rk1e played
in the bap brig meta
he just bladed
baited 1 cooldown
and that was it
Basically decay this season
Bait lamp and out
Pelican on suravasa didn’t even bait lamp he just got rolled by chorong and rupal
yeah
just though
supports in general
no wonder dive is bad rn, every new support released can do more
the only role support s cant 1v1 is tank
and even then
only sometimes
and if its a 2v1
they can
chiyo and fielder shouldn't be able to survive 2 ultimates, by sending a nade at the ground, and just healing each other
Out of curiosity is overwatch contender also over with the overwatch league or is that another story
Im actually not sure
even if it was
they wouldn't tell us
thats the contenders thing to do
Yeah noticing the night owl was over
but since contenders is t2, but for owl
Blizzard announcing new wow events and inc expansions and so on
It might be
I don’t think contenders in ending
OWL is mostly ending bc of franchising
But what are they contenders for until a new league is formed
but contenders doesnt have such thing
I mean that’s what I don’t get tho feels kinda pointless having contenders if theirs no league formed or if theirs something bigger blizzard has in store for overwatch esport
contenders could become the next owl
They have their own tournaments
the contenders winners dont go to owl
they just get a prize
There has to be a new league
No way they just let it die
Lemme check
It could but don’t think It would make as much profit tho if it doesn’t really give players something out of it (viewers and fans) I mean
They’ll have to make it much more sustainable without huge sponsors
Unless Microsoft decides they are fully funding a league
I don’t really watch contenders so I don’t know the format
How does a team apply to contenders?
i think through open division
I've been following contenders for a while
but i havent really looked into that
So open division becomes like contenders for owl but with the actual team going up instead of players that impressed?
I imagine it’ll go back to how it used to be, where 3rd party groups host tournaments and orgs can sponsor teams
I doubt the current owl players will go to open division or contenders though
like dreamhack mlg umg etc
And then the pro scene will sort itself out again after awhile
Wait you can just sign up for contenders
just like that
Maybe im reading it wrong
read this
when are we going to get the rewards for watching the stream last night?
not sure
wait you can already have 3rd party tournaments
They said something about October 8th
So expect it by then?
NOOOO
i can't get a london jersey in my size
L
well since the league is ending it's a good time to buy some team merch
Can always get a mayhem shirt
But rip
rip
Why would blizzard offer money to teams to disband?
Like what’s the reasoning behind that
Probably they’re losing money as well?
But teams bought in so they can’t just tell them alright it’s over bye
So they offer them some money to get the majority to agree to close it
I assume though I don’t actually know
Still fits
Nice
man i'm actually quite sad this may be the end of the league
I'm fr just waiting for the merch sales
These orgs are dying in a few months
I'll probably pay like 20 per jersey
yeah the spitfire jerseys in my size is all sold out
smh
i should've impulsed bought last week
the only sizes on the OWL shop and L and Up which does not work since i am a small man
Rip OWL
the nodnol eiftips
I haven’t been super into OWL this year
So I was def not expecting Florida mayhem to sweep the grand finals
fair, i was expecting atlanta to do alot better, but here we are with them the first team eliminated
From barely making the midseason madness to sweeping the finals
Yea I felt like they rushed to finals real quick
Leaving Winston sombra tracer meta saved the mayhem
Yeah but they weren’t the best dive team
but they still did decently
Atlanta was clearly the best there
ya for sure
The flexible meta that we got truly lets them shine
leaving dive messed up atlanta
true
im just sad toronto didnt make it to playoffs
Felt like they didn’t expect what happened from the spitfire
Even though coluge does play orisa which is important to beat them
ya it really felt like boston was the only team that could take london out
I’d give it to the mayhem as well
But other than that teams were just left with no answers to the comp
I’m still crying over Soe’s little speech
Maybe Houston if fearless has a good orisa? Don’t know how good he is though
just like if u look at play offs and play ins london only lost to bosto
The silence after the montage hits so hard
They were also saved by dive falling off
And ended up 6th after being out of the top 10 in the dive meta right?
DECAYS GENJI WAS AMAZING
I meant spitfire were saved
Boston were about as good in the dive meta
idk but they where always a good team
The rein ride or die made them entertaining
wdym london used rein not rly boston
I’m talking about London lol
ahhhh
Boston were never out of the top 10
makes sense
i was confused
but london was terrible, until they went to rein only
hadi be like
It’s their thing
i have faint memories of hadi attempting to get off rein in those early matches
nah new rein buff
New ult
Spinning rein with double hammer
Smurf walking through bap windows what such a highlight
that was so funny
wait isnt that kinda rampage... charging through people killing em
when
bc decay genji was invisible vs London when he wasn't using blade
i think i said it multiple times
i know
but like… blade is bad
he's kinda ass not on genji tracer or zarya 😭
and also decay 
south korea should win
they wont
@rugged quest right?
i will be shocked if they don’t
yzn will get exposed
he can’t win trade in world cup sadly
seeing how lip did in playoffs he's gonna get diffed by shy again
lowkey I could see China winning after playoffs
it's not all of atlanta
its deadly
Take every time donghak fed
fearless world cup mvp ❤️
it's sparkle instead of stalker
also chiyo has been feeding since mid-season madness too
in summer he had a big decline
So did all of atlanta
Listen imagine atlanta
their only weakness
is donghak
and flexibility
Now dallas last year
I have no idea how they didnt sweep shock
They were stacked
But their one possible weakness
was edison
he was the only player that wasnt at the top of his role
I’m still shocked Smurf didn’t get a rolestar
Ngl
Guxue deserved it over mag
If you take playoffs in mind
Ok back to south korea
Yeah guxue played very well
South korea is like 2022 dallas, even with coach rush (which is better than gator) but with LIP instead of edison, which gives them all of edisons heroes, but better, plus sombra and tracer (and technicaly echo, but we dont talk about that one), But its also atlanta, with Hanbin (one of the best off tanks we have) and fearless (again, one of the best at his position) instead of donghak, also they have championship experience, chemistry, and better coaching, while having finn for emotional support, IMO i dont think south korea can loose. i would say prove me wrong but i dont think thats possible
ffWHAT
I mean
It is
out of the two games
He dove in, got no value, while guxue counter dove atl backline and he got value unlike donghak
it has been 1. stalker 2. chiyo for top players
bro he hasn't 😭
Fielder was the only one that felt like he wasn’t throwing
nah playoffs chiyo wasn't bad
summer stage chiyo wasn't bad either but it was alot worse than spring
yeah
lip was underperforming
i was gonna say
lip stalker threw vs spitfire tbf
stalker echo vs spitfire was very poor
he will always underperfom compared to his sombra meta self
Even if he did
real and true
The one problem with lip for me is that he tried sombra again
thats just a horrible idea
he's one of the best sojourns in the world
Just mirror
I blame g8r
gator and hawk
had some beef
100%
there is no way
he put donghak in
while thinking it was their best shot at victory
and then the doom
from hawk
Why didnt they try sigma?
the coaches had no idea what the meta was
it might have worked in scrims
houston ran doom first game
got rolled
and adapted
unlike reign 😭
I wonder if gunba figured out sigma was op
or if someone
just tried it
Because it is so random
imagine if hawk was on sigma
ahhh
I just wanna watch south korea play
so i can get to see lip again
MAybe not on sombra
who knows
china has such a good chance to win world cup for the first time
Wait didnt they win it once?
They got second twice lol
They might win but south korea is just scary
Especially with rush as their coach
True actually I rewatched it a bit
He was first or second to die quite a few times but not as bad as I remembered
Stalker did die a ton though vs spitfire
Rush is gonna be so thankfull to play with fielder instead of mcd
guxue on his way to gap fearless ong
get rolled ex-dallas backline 🥱
if its an off tank meta
just like how he gapped fearless this playoffs?
elsa might have to play
fearless didnt play
bernar owns guxur
guxue
guxue owns fearless
rahhh
If atlanta had won against spark
they might have figured out sigma was the meta
and put hawk on sigma
and not play donghak
that is pure copium
oh
well let me tell you
as a merit mvp nom doubter
he did SOOOOOOOO MUCH
this finals
he hit like every rail
Tbh mayhem have been invisible except for someone
every bastion right click
I felt ch0rong did a lot too
ms I fear
you can easily see the work merit was putting out
they just have not
rupal has been great all season possibly most improved player?
Thats a take even the voices in my head wouldnt cook up
mer1t is great as well
he serves his purpose in regular season
and then just became a whole different beast in finals
deserved
LMAOOOO
G.O.A.T. GENJI
thats like saying real madrid are invisible without ronaldo after 3 peating the champions league
chorong has been the 2nd best ms
😭
unfortunately ms is jsut invisible at all times
and someone has been the goat this season
ch0rong booped houston out of their window to win the fight
like 4 ot 5 times
doesnt seem like a lot
Also checkmates walls are more memorable than him
Idk if its just me
but spectators are almost never on checkmate pov
Checkmate has god tier walls and I said it every time
The block on Smurf was nuts
And he bought everyone time to hide from every window
if owl continued
the next several generation tanks will all be like somoene
kinda like how jjonak came in with dps fs
what about ms becoming fs
and then all the next fs came in carrying (or trying)
I said this before
Ms is like 2 heroes
lets be real here
So they can just play like zen and kiri
because those 2 are the mostused for double flex
so you play 4 characters
there has been a lot of ms being able to play fs decently well
a flex support is supposed to play like 6
lots of the time ms players don't need to swap
except a few brig metas
if the meta isnt really defined
like hard hard meta
You can just one trick lucio
to be the best main support you need to be the best at 2 heroes
Thats unfair
few players can do it
True mercy lw
Was this last season of overwatch legue
Probably
This might be the last time
we se fielder and chiyo together
they will probably be separated next time
NGL imo best ow1 meta was zarya winston or winston dva, pretty much a tie for n1
world cup
Yeah but thats like a one time thing
i really hope we get more world cups from now on
owwc this year was one of the most memorable pro overwatch experiences
it was just morelike an actual eesport
it makes me think about what owl could've been
Chorong underrated
yes
Top 2 main atleast
OWWC had the coostreams with ml7 where he did those interviews with the players, after each match, that the owwc didnt do, so itwas independant interviews.
also it was on twitch
itm akes me hopeful
for the future of ow esports
Ye those were nice
I think it's gonna go back it used to be
bunch of seperate tourneys in diff regions
and maybe one big event where they invite people to korea or smt
mmaybe it's just hopium
Well
theres pro players
and theres people that like to watch those players
so theres always gonna be some kind of esport for ow, but yeah we justhave to hope its good
0 people mentioned anyone on mayhem except him (before playoffs)
I want to say thank you to our team and to all the fans who supported us.
I don't think I'll play Overwatch anymore I'll write more details later.
Thank you everyone 😄
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i suspect this means they found partners to run some kind of esports scene in some form. Not like OWL, but most likely like we had OGN Apex
Would love to have it stay that way
But i dont think that’s what’s gonna happen
Same
yes
Let me be a mayhem fan for another season
I dont feel the same connection to something like paris eternal than to idk Cloud 9 overwatch
Feel me
City based teams are superior when your league works out
city based names is less healthy for the scene
Yeah
Tbh it’s just the name that I care about
But on a personal level its easier to build a connection to it if you’re from said area/city
Even if they bring everyone back to an org based team it wont feel the same as being the London spitfire or LA gladiators
I liked paris eternal because im 3 hours off paris
I’m as far away from Florida as possible pretty much lol
I just saw the team play during the midseason when I started watching owl and I liked them
They felt pretty much like some underdogs
Houston took down philly (infernal) and took the curse with them
NRG Shock
Optic Fuel
Misfits Mayhem
Gen G. Dynasty
C9 Spitfire
Billibilli Spark
some of these actually sound better than their City brandy already.
Even though I love the city brand names
Billibilli spark sounds goofy
As long as owl lives
Man do you know what sucked
In 2020 I had tickets for the London homestead but then COVID came and messed everything up
Refunded?
Yeah
They could’ve given tickets to the 2021 homestands for those who bought them for the 2020 ones
If they didnt feel like getting a refund
which it might be see their last tweet
i'm okay with losing the city branding as long as we keep owl-ish
I did
I meant I’m sad about losing the city name but as long as owl lives it’s fine
i just gotta get all the jerseys from this season then
i have all of season 1, and season 2
so get the ones all the teams ended on
I’m still looking for that spark jacket the spark wore yesterday
can’t find it anywhere asdfkektndks
Isn’t optic Houston outlaws
T1 Infernal
Is owl going away? What happens to owl tokens then?
why do you need the second name
for some of these teams
it ruins some of them
like misfits was a perfectly fine team name pre owl
also I think fuel bring back envyus
since its envy x optic
iirc
so there might be 2 teams
optic and envyus
So just remove the city
But we need to bring the mayhem
How will we do that with no mayhem
true
florida mayhem was the best team name
cant change my mind
They have one of the best names
compared to some of the teams
like Dallas Fuel
it just doesn't sound catchy
shush
we wish
I thought you said they were the best team
Oh Florida mayhem?
Yes
ok
Soo owl is just changing and not really getting removed?
how did shock do
Didn't they practically lose their entire team or smthn
They got the best rookies
Max junbin heesang were said to be some of the best talents
And they were not
they got rid of colhuge, Mikey and like everyone else that helped almost win last year
Do they at least still have proper
Or profit
Or prophet
or whoever
they had proper but he was mega boomed this season
pressure got to him I think
and mikeyy was a serious weirdo
I liked the renko lukemino probe striker pickups but it was too little too late
only so much a single player can do
tbh colhuge could've won it for them if they had him instead of Mikey last year
But why was he a serious weirdo?
ngl i mix up coluge and hydron to much
only bad analysts like hellfire believed so
real
well heesang was one of the best rookies
sadly he was on ass team like sh*ck
so he wasn't able to shine
LMAO THE CENSOR
he moved the the titans correct?
between the two fdps players yeah he was the sj player
kk just making sure ik who ur talking abt
He looks so much better on titans
for suree
what yall think the mayhem mvp skin will be?
prob a character used in the gf... but who was used again
even tho it won't happen since london already has it I hope it's a winston skin
didnt merit play sojourn alot?
yeah
that's the most likely scenario
I was hoping for a sojourn dallas skin
so hopefully we can get a sojourn florida one
Maybe bastion
please no
I would do VERY bad things
lol
if it's a bstion skin
lol
it should have been
I personally want sojourn but a sigma one would also be cool
groomed underage girls
especially because sojourn was important for nearly the entire season
overwatch player be normal challenge FAILED
two problems with dallas' championship skin is it doesn't look like a dallas skin and it's a reaper skin
same
not enough flame motifs on the chained reaper skin
also wish we still got MVP skins
its ok that its reaper for me but like doesnt look as much like dallas as i would want
sucks we will never get a Leave / Proper / Someone skin
true
Yeah they ended it after Fleta
proper would of gotten a tracer skin
Probably
jjonak skin goes so hard whyd they stop doing it after fleta
truly despicable what that one guy did...
It was pre planned
Because of Sinatraa
NAH
LMAO
It was planned before that
leave would have taken the tracer skin first
no way they'd have two mvp tracer skins
i only started watching last year i dont know who all the other mvps played
It was planned before that happened that was just a coincidence I guess
I see
I've never heard that before
proper fdps player super talented
Yeah
same with leave actually
Maybe Hanzo leave

what does this mean
rumors are that they're gonna have 3rd party orgs run it
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