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restive forge
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unless something new came out those are the only two confirmed

reef seal
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I see

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I feel like taking the blizzard payout is just a way smarter business position but ofc no one knows their true finances. Maybe their owners love the game too.

restive forge
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From what ive heard (my friend who helps run a contenders team, no contact with producers etc) said most likely outcome is they rebrand and find someone else to invest

reef seal
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I see, would make sense then

restive forge
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so different league but mostly same players

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Ive also heard contenders will still exists i have no clue how true that is tho

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Exist not exists

reef seal
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I just need one player to win a third ring

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so they can be called the ultimate goat

restive forge
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Viol2t was closest right?

reef seal
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there’s some people on two rings iirc

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smurf and viol2t have two yes iirc

stoic bronze
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So does super moth and a bunch of other shock players as well as whoru

reef seal
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ye

split flume
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just rewatched soe's speech and the final montage

stoic bronze
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I wish this wasnt the last year of owl

robust patio
stoic bronze
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Wtf are we supposed to watch after owwc

robust patio
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oh yeah

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idk D:

restive forge
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When does owwc end

robust patio
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first week of nov

reef seal
robust patio
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starting in october 27 i believe

reef seal
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be free

restive forge
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theres probably gonna be charity tournaments & stuff like there always is during the offszn

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im sure pros will be in that since they probably wont exactly be scrimming

robust patio
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some korean pros will go

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to military

restive forge
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yeah

stoic bronze
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Profit void

restive forge
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what

little echo
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this upcoming od is going to be the most fire od ever

restive forge
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which part

little echo
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there’s gonna be 97 t2 teams

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and maybe t1 players

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like owl people are gonna just make friend teams in a week

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and scrim

robust patio
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friend teams

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D:

little echo
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or get picked up by t2

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rosters

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if they don’t retire

restive forge
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Can owl pros even play od i thought that was like a thing that was banned

reef seal
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let’s play vs then tahat

restive forge
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or am i just lying to myself

little echo
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dive party banned t2 and t1

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od is usually free for anyone to join not actively rostered to owl

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or t2

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dive party banned anyone who had done so recently

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but I doubt this od will

restive forge
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idk when od starts so if what i just said makes no sense my b

robust patio
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whats od stand for here

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on defense?

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overdose?

restive forge
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Open division

robust patio
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oh

restive forge
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where anyone can team up and compete in comp ow

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like owl style but ranked

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Not ranked* idk why i said but

robust patio
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that seems boring tho

restive forge
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im still cooked from owl stream my mind isnt here

restive forge
robust patio
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just bring back pacific vs atlantic

restive forge
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What

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Open division is a whole thing

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like contenders is its own thing

robust patio
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all stars game

restive forge
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Owl style like set teams vs set teams

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where did allstars come from

robust patio
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search all stars pac vs atlantic overwatch

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they used to do it in ow1

restive forge
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I lnow but what does that have to do with od

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im confused ngl

acoustic owl
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is this it for the OWL or is there more seasons coming

robust patio
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oh it doesnt relate my point is

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after owwc is over

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i want to watch all stars

restive forge
robust patio
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not od

acoustic owl
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it was actually kinda fun to watch

restive forge
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then go watch old allstar games idk

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Anyways im abt to take a shower

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stay safe

robust patio
frank hatch
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just got done watching the grandfinals since i was at work

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and holy fuck the end had me crying

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seeing Jake start crying then Soe lose it at the end it just hurt

split flume
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bro

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it hurts

reef seal
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sadge

split flume
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been watching owl since day 1

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in 2018

stray quarry
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alarm at the end…

split flume
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now it's over

reef seal
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I watched szn 1 and parts of 2 that’s it

reef seal
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Draw League

split flume
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lets freaking go

robust patio
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draw league

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where every game is a draw

buoyant escarp
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That’s called a hell no

mortal cipher
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Bronze League

finite viper
balmy wolf
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Good bye owl :/

mortal cipher
finite viper
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you can all watch and learn from me missing my flux over and over

mortal cipher
ocean lagoon
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that unironically would be fun to watch

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i lowkey wanna make something like that happen

finite viper
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I participated in a few, it's so fun

mortal cipher
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Let’s do it

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The non Pro Overwatch League

finite viper
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there was the overwatch community cup, which idk what happened with that

mortal cipher
robust patio
finite viper
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no dia no plat

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and 2 bronze!

ocean lagoon
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unironically 5v5 bronze tournaments would be fun

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hell even going up like 5v5 silver, gold, plat etc

ocean lagoon
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itd be fun to watch different skill levels and how they play

finite viper
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and gitgud is apparently coming back

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so..

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i was in another server and mentioned that i'd like to do a tourney locally

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but 1) i haven't played in a year now and 2) i don't know where i'll pull the time from

brittle olive
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Wait so

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Is OWL over?

ocean lagoon
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for now yeah

split flume
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owl as it has been is more than likely done

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pro ow will continue to exist in some or fashion tho

finite viper
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seems like it. i heard rumor that charge took the money, and that defiant said yes to stay in the league

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so that's 11 more from my understanding to stay in

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but as it is now, it might not be likely

brittle olive
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need to buy defiant skins asap

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also someone just took the doomfist cutout at playoffs

finite viper
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LOL

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they just up and walked with it?

late tusk
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I BEEN SAYING IT, MAYHEM ON TOP

mortal cipher
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The 4 bottom are now champions

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But until they announce as slim as it is there is a chance

little echo
mortal cipher
static pond
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Honestly just put the player with the best aim on 76 with a mercy pocket

little echo
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1 silver (manager) 1 bronze (head coach)

static pond
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They win everything

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Unless they go against a phara mercy

mortal cipher
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Yeah or just put a team with bronze silver and gold players and see what happens

static pond
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I’m plat in support

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Can I be in it

buoyant knoll
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i know im late but florida mayhem wooooo

orchid heart
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@vale cobalt im a bit late but I told you

outer sigil
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o7 you will be missed

stray quarry
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I know skiesti walked out with the mercy cutout

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and fareeha took the jq one

worn falcon
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Rip OWL for the uncertainty gpu_pepe_prayge

orchid heart
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Does Florida still get a championship skin ?

hollow briar
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Yes

humble token
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4 -0 is crazy

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Also 3-0 spark

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They could have beaten Houston tbh

hazy gorge
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Anyone else missing owl still😭

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I start watching old lives

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☹️

turbid stream
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is anyone elses owl drops not working for them

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i watched all the playoffs + finals

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didnt get anything

flint ferry
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You had to refresh the page well the stream was still going to get drops

sullen berry
static pond
sullen berry
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ladies and gentleman, your top 5 worst brackets courtesy of this server's collective brain cells

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@uncut drum gg ez

humble token
dreamy cave
cobalt moss
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I mean im happy my preds were boomed

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london 3-0 and the spark reverse sweeps were insane

sullen berry
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heck even the outlaws losing the first mayhem match 0-3 before ending the spark's run with a 3-0 is so wild

slate siren
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will owwc be a lan event?

vale cobalt
slate siren
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one last lan event

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ill be therre

vale cobalt
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lol

broken ibex
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Rewatching Soe's speech

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Feelsbadman

robust patio
echo zephyr
broken ibex
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Jake was gone as soon as she started

vale cobalt
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alarm ❤️

broken ibex
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Legday and Lemonkiwi barely held it together

vale cobalt
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so he knows

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everything

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bro tasted every part of the owl

broken ibex
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True

vale cobalt
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he has been a caster too

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lol

broken ibex
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I really hope he stays among the overwatch esports scene

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Or at least content creation

vale cobalt
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hes still top 50 player in dps lol bro is not rusty

little stirrup
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is there gonna be a grandfinnals encore?

broken ibex
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doubt

sullen berry
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all the costreams for different regions happened all at the same time

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you can't get more hours watching previous streams

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and encores were for midseason madness because the matches are in Korea, in a different timezone

tribal canopy
vale cobalt
tribal canopy
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The overwatchleague reddit? Or a different one

vale cobalt
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comp ow

vale cobalt
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time to speak about the world cup

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team finland on top

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🇫🇮

wind girder
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Is the league actually over because everyone's so sentimental about it but i've yet to see an official confirmation

sullen berry
sullen berry
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Outlaws the APAC Killer

vale cobalt
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but in the end it wasnt enough

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im proud of my guys

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o7

sullen berry
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because someone is the tank of all time

vale cobalt
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2nd place on MSM and PLAY-OFFS

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not bad for the org

sullen berry
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yeah somebody posted a winnings table of all the OWL teams

full lichen
vale cobalt
# full lichen Team USA

you're rooting for your country i respect that. unfortunately my country couldn't even qualify for the LAN event.

full lichen
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There's always next time

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Like next year Mayhem will win OWL again (Yes, I believe)

vale cobalt
vale cobalt
full lichen
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Team Sweden had great players

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Especially Dps

vale cobalt
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kevster tried his best

wispy yacht
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bro was lost on sombra

vale cobalt
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sparkr hard carried bro

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wdym

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we had dps players as our backline

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scyle isnt a flex support

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hes a dps but he played support for an unknown reason when we had h9mpe

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and why the fk did lulish play when we had theomatic

full lichen
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What if h9mpe was injured?

vale cobalt
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cloudy call thomatic as mr. sweden

vale cobalt
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xd

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as i said, bad staff

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good players

full lichen
vale cobalt
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they overcooked it

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it burned

heavy cliff
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does anyone know what chinas owwc team is?

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i cant find it

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Nvm i got it

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wait whats farway doing there

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Florida got all of the awards except AROTY

vale cobalt
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all spark players + farway1987 from charge

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cuz hes goated ana

heavy cliff
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they dont need an ana one trick

vale cobalt
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you always need another player of their caliber in case of things go wrong

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farway isnt an ana otp

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bap zen player too

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where did you get that idea from?

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just cuz i said hes goated ana doesnt mean hes an otp XD

heavy cliff
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I guess?

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But purely from recency bias, lengsa might be better than farway on like a kiri

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has farway ever been on an actual team?

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Oh he was on chengdu

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i forgot about that

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Is it me or have main supports been playing a lot of flex

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it seems weird

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Maybe i just now noticed it

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but also the whole main support sub-role is just lucio and brig

daring pier
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damn so uh

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overwatch league

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💀

flint pagoda
heavy cliff
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Mercy is either hard meta

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or

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you have a pharah

flint pagoda
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Mercy echo with pelican is deadly

heavy cliff
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so good

heavy cliff
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pelican doesnt need that

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just play ana

flint pagoda
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Idk but they did echo mercy on ilios pretty sure

heavy cliff
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Also

flint pagoda
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These playoffs

heavy cliff
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mercy cant 1v1 dps characters

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that makes her the less survivable support we have

flint pagoda
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You’re underestimating the hitbox of her bullets

heavy cliff
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since in owl people can actually hit shots

flint pagoda
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But her survivability comes from the movement

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Just ga away

heavy cliff
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As long as ur in the air

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moving in a straight line

flint pagoda
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Yeah well people in owl have good positioning they don’t just ga to cross the well or something

heavy cliff
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The problem with GA is that its super predictable

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your not safe

flint pagoda
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She’s just not strong enough to be meta

heavy cliff
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they know exactly where you are going

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when ur gonna be there

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The only way for mercy to be meta is for either her res or dmg boost to be broken

flint pagoda
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5 man res when

heavy cliff
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Also res is bs

flint pagoda
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It’s annoying to play against

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Which is the worst type of ability

heavy cliff
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you can run an advanced 5 man rush, and since supports are broken, you litteraly have to give everything to deal 200 damage that isnt healed, and then

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res

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0 skill

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takes less skill than counter picking

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you dont even need to choose who to res

flint pagoda
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The annoying part about mercy is that you get so much value if you hard pocket a good player and that doesn’t take any skill

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Doubt mercy players enjoy that either

heavy cliff
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Mercy is an ow1 character

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more so than zen

flint pagoda
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Spilo had an interesting idea for a mercy rework to make her much less hard pocket style

heavy cliff
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Imagine ur a genji, you blade a character, you get half ur slashed outhealed, you finally get a kill, dash away

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but nah

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res

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30 second cooldown

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Have you every tried blading a pocketed sojourn? i have, not fun

flint pagoda
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I have like 10 hours on genji and 8 of those were back when I started so didn’t actually know how to play

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So I don’t know the genji struggles

heavy cliff
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I do very much

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A naked blade, has a 0% chance of gettting value if its a 5v5

flint pagoda
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I know the struggle of diffing another widow just for her to get a res then she knows where I am and kills me

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Then we lose the fight

worldly wolf
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How did the grand finals go

flint pagoda
heavy cliff
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Like zen

flint pagoda
heavy cliff
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DOESNT EVEN TRANS

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WHEN I BLADE

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HE ISNT SCARED OF IT

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HE CAN JUST KILL ME

flint pagoda
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What’s your rank?

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Oh enemy zen

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Thought you wanted your zen to keep you up

heavy cliff
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nah

vale cobalt
worldly wolf
flint pagoda
heavy cliff
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Ngl i have massive respect for people that play genji in owl

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I remember when sp9rk1e played

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in the bap brig meta

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he just bladed

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baited 1 cooldown

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and that was it

flint pagoda
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Basically decay this season

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Bait lamp and out

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Pelican on suravasa didn’t even bait lamp he just got rolled by chorong and rupal

heavy cliff
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yeah

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just though

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supports in general

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no wonder dive is bad rn, every new support released can do more

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the only role support s cant 1v1 is tank

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and even then

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only sometimes

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and if its a 2v1

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they can

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chiyo and fielder shouldn't be able to survive 2 ultimates, by sending a nade at the ground, and just healing each other

balmy wolf
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Out of curiosity is overwatch contender also over with the overwatch league or is that another story

heavy cliff
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even if it was

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they wouldn't tell us

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thats the contenders thing to do

balmy wolf
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Yeah noticing the night owl was over

heavy cliff
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but since contenders is t2, but for owl

balmy wolf
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Blizzard announcing new wow events and inc expansions and so on

heavy cliff
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It might be

flint pagoda
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I don’t think contenders in ending

heavy cliff
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OWL is mostly ending bc of franchising

flint pagoda
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But what are they contenders for until a new league is formed

heavy cliff
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but contenders doesnt have such thing

balmy wolf
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I mean that’s what I don’t get tho feels kinda pointless having contenders if theirs no league formed or if theirs something bigger blizzard has in store for overwatch esport

heavy cliff
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contenders could become the next owl

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They have their own tournaments

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the contenders winners dont go to owl

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they just get a prize

flint pagoda
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No way they just let it die

heavy cliff
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Lemme check

balmy wolf
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It could but don’t think It would make as much profit tho if it doesn’t really give players something out of it (viewers and fans) I mean

flint pagoda
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They’ll have to make it much more sustainable without huge sponsors

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Unless Microsoft decides they are fully funding a league

heavy cliff
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Couldn't Contenders actually become the next owl

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we have open division

flint pagoda
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I don’t really watch contenders so I don’t know the format

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How does a team apply to contenders?

heavy cliff
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i think through open division

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I've been following contenders for a while

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but i havent really looked into that

flint pagoda
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So open division becomes like contenders for owl but with the actual team going up instead of players that impressed?

simple gust
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I imagine it’ll go back to how it used to be, where 3rd party groups host tournaments and orgs can sponsor teams

flint pagoda
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I doubt the current owl players will go to open division or contenders though

simple gust
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like dreamhack mlg umg etc

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And then the pro scene will sort itself out again after awhile

heavy cliff
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Wait you can just sign up for contenders

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just like that

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Maybe im reading it wrong

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read this

spice bough
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when are we going to get the rewards for watching the stream last night?

heavy cliff
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wait you can already have 3rd party tournaments

flint pagoda
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So expect it by then?

tidal marsh
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NOOOO

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i can't get a london jersey in my size

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L

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well since the league is ending it's a good time to buy some team merch

flint pagoda
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But rip

tidal marsh
flint pagoda
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Probably some Houston copers who moved to be mayhem fans

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(Jk)

tidal marsh
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it's okie tho

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i still have a s1 spitfire jersey somewhere

flint pagoda
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Oh nice

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Winner season

slate siren
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Why would blizzard offer money to teams to disband?

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Like what’s the reasoning behind that

flint pagoda
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Probably they’re losing money as well?

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But teams bought in so they can’t just tell them alright it’s over bye

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So they offer them some money to get the majority to agree to close it

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I assume though I don’t actually know

tidal marsh
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Still fits

flint pagoda
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Nice

tidal marsh
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man i'm actually quite sad this may be the end of the league

plush grail
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I'm fr just waiting for the merch sales

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These orgs are dying in a few months

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I'll probably pay like 20 per jersey

tidal marsh
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yeah the spitfire jerseys in my size is all sold out

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smh

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i should've impulsed bought last week

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the only sizes on the OWL shop and L and Up which does not work since i am a small man

stoic crow
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Rip OWL

wispy yacht
hot sparrow
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I haven’t been super into OWL this year

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So I was def not expecting Florida mayhem to sweep the grand finals

stoic crow
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fair, i was expecting atlanta to do alot better, but here we are with them the first team eliminated

flint pagoda
hot sparrow
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Yea I felt like they rushed to finals real quick

flint pagoda
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Leaving Winston sombra tracer meta saved the mayhem

stoic crow
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but mayhem was a great team all around

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sure the dive wasnt the best for them

flint pagoda
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Yeah but they weren’t the best dive team

stoic crow
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but they still did decently

flint pagoda
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Atlanta was clearly the best there

stoic crow
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ya for sure

flint pagoda
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The flexible meta that we got truly lets them shine

stoic crow
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leaving dive messed up atlanta

stoic crow
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im just sad toronto didnt make it to playoffs

flint pagoda
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Felt like they didn’t expect what happened from the spitfire

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Even though coluge does play orisa which is important to beat them

stoic crow
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ya it really felt like boston was the only team that could take london out

flint pagoda
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I’d give it to the mayhem as well

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But other than that teams were just left with no answers to the comp

primal zephyr
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I’m still crying over Soe’s little speech

flint pagoda
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Maybe Houston if fearless has a good orisa? Don’t know how good he is though

stoic crow
primal zephyr
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1776 baby

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Undefeated

flint pagoda
flint pagoda
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And ended up 6th after being out of the top 10 in the dive meta right?

stoic crow
flint pagoda
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Boston were about as good in the dive meta

stoic crow
flint pagoda
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The rein ride or die made them entertaining

stoic crow
flint pagoda
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I’m talking about London lol

stoic crow
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ahhhh

flint pagoda
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Boston were never out of the top 10

stoic crow
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makes sense

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i was confused

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but london was terrible, until they went to rein only

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hadi be like

flint pagoda
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It’s their thing

stray quarry
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i have faint memories of hadi attempting to get off rein in those early matches

flint pagoda
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Double hammer rein

stoic crow
flint pagoda
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New ult
Spinning rein with double hammer

primal zephyr
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Smurf walking through bap windows what such a highlight

stoic crow
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that was so funny

stoic crow
karmic charm
karmic charm
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bc decay genji was invisible vs London when he wasn't using blade

reef seal
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decay was afk

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vs london

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legit

karmic charm
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literally

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like on suruvasa in their last series

reef seal
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i think i said it multiple times

karmic charm
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he had 15 final blows

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12 were blade

reef seal
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  1. he was doing air and 2. genji isn’t the right pick
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imo

karmic charm
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the genji pick was only for us ult

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his*

reef seal
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i know

karmic charm
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but like

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it's decay

reef seal
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but like… blade is bad

karmic charm
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he's kinda ass not on genji tracer or zarya 😭

reef seal
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and also decay troll_killmeihavehadenough

vale cobalt
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lets talk about the world cup since owl is ded

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finland will win guys i believe

reef seal
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south korea should win

karmic charm
vale cobalt
reef seal
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i will be shocked if they don’t

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yzn will get exposed

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he can’t win trade in world cup sadly

karmic charm
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seeing how lip did in playoffs he's gonna get diffed by shy again

vale cobalt
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there are accusations about him

reef seal
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his fans can see him get farmed

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the arab hive

karmic charm
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lowkey I could see China winning after playoffs

heavy cliff
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I mean

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Atlanta

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with coach rush

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AND fearless/hanbin?

karmic charm
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it's not all of atlanta

vale cobalt
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its deadly

heavy cliff
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Take every time donghak fed

vale cobalt
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fearless world cup mvp ❤️

karmic charm
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it's sparkle instead of stalker

heavy cliff
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and substitute that

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with fearless

karmic charm
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also chiyo has been feeding since mid-season madness too

heavy cliff
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Not rly

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mostly in playoffs

karmic charm
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in summer he had a big decline

heavy cliff
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So did all of atlanta

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Listen imagine atlanta

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their only weakness

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is donghak

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and flexibility

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Now dallas last year

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I have no idea how they didnt sweep shock

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They were stacked

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But their one possible weakness

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was edison

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he was the only player that wasnt at the top of his role

primal zephyr
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I’m still shocked Smurf didn’t get a rolestar

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Ngl

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Guxue deserved it over mag

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If you take playoffs in mind

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Ok back to south korea

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Yeah guxue played very well

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South korea is like 2022 dallas, even with coach rush (which is better than gator) but with LIP instead of edison, which gives them all of edisons heroes, but better, plus sombra and tracer (and technicaly echo, but we dont talk about that one), But its also atlanta, with Hanbin (one of the best off tanks we have) and fearless (again, one of the best at his position) instead of donghak, also they have championship experience, chemistry, and better coaching, while having finn for emotional support, IMO i dont think south korea can loose. i would say prove me wrong but i dont think thats possible

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what are y'all on about

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I mean

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Chiyo perma first death

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Even then

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That isnt rly throwing

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It is

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Also

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it was mostly donghak that died first

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I remember seeing chiyo first almost every time

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Stalker also died a ton

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way more than spring

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out of the two games

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He dove in, got no value, while guxue counter dove atl backline and he got value unlike donghak

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it has been 1. stalker 2. chiyo for top players

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What are you on

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Chiyo died too much to be 2nd best in atl

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bro he hasn't 😭

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Fielder was the only one that felt like he wasn’t throwing

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nah playoffs chiyo wasn't bad

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summer stage chiyo wasn't bad either but it was alot worse than spring

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everyone on atl weren't throwing

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besides dong

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yeah

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lip was underperforming

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i was gonna say

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stalker echo vs spitfire was very poor

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I am x2 speed in london atl

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I do not believe he has died first yet

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first map done

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Even if he did

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The one problem with lip for me is that he tried sombra again

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thats just a horrible idea

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he's one of the best sojourns in the world

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Just mirror

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I blame g8r

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gator and hawk

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had some beef

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100%

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there is no way

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he put donghak in

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while thinking it was their best shot at victory

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and then the doom

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from hawk

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Why didnt they try sigma?

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the coaches had no idea what the meta was

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thats no reason

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to play doomfist

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it might have worked in scrims

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houston ran doom first game

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got rolled

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and adapted

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unlike reign 😭

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I wonder if gunba figured out sigma was op

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or if someone

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just tried it

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Because it is so random

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imagine if hawk was on sigma

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ahhh

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I just wanna watch south korea play

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so i can get to see lip again

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MAybe not on sombra

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who knows

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china has such a good chance to win world cup for the first time

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Wait didnt they win it once?

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nah

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that was usa

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They got second twice lol

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They might win but south korea is just scary

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Especially with rush as their coach

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Rush is gonna be so thankfull to play with fielder instead of mcd

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real

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wait

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dallas got further than atl 💀

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that is so funny to me

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guxue on his way to gap fearless ong

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get rolled ex-dallas backline 🥱

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if its an off tank meta

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elsa might have to play

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bernar owns guxur

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guxue

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guxue owns fearless

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rahhh

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If atlanta had won against spark

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they might have figured out sigma was the meta

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and put hawk on sigma

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and not play donghak

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that is pure copium

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Ofc it is

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Also florida got 4 of the possible awards

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as they should

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someone had one of if not the best season any owl player has had

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Also i actually couldnt watch part of the finals

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but like

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mer1t gf mvp?

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oh

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well let me tell you

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as a merit mvp nom doubter

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he did SOOOOOOOO MUCH

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this finals

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he hit like every rail

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Tbh mayhem have been invisible except for someone

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every bastion right click

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I felt ch0rong did a lot too

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ms I fear

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There are too many ch0rong doubters

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rly

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you can easily see the work merit was putting out

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rupal has been great all season possibly most improved player?

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checkmate has leveled up again

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being able to play anything they needed

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Whoru is farming championships

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he dont even need to pla

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y

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mer1t is great as well

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he serves his purpose in regular season

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and then just became a whole different beast in finals

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G.O.A.T. GENJI

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thats like saying real madrid are invisible without ronaldo after 3 peating the champions league

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chorong has been the 2nd best ms

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😭

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unfortunately ms is jsut invisible at all times

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and someone has been the goat this season

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my goat

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ch0rong booped houston out of their window to win the fight

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like 4 ot 5 times

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doesnt seem like a lot

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Also checkmates walls are more memorable than him

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Idk if its just me

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but spectators are almost never on checkmate pov

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Checkmate has god tier walls and I said it every time

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The block on Smurf was nuts

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And he bought everyone time to hide from every window

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checkmate gets a decent amount of screentime

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the way he lobs mei ults is so funny

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Also having someone is unfair

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you pay for 1 tank

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and get 2

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if owl continued

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the next several generation tanks will all be like somoene

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kinda like how jjonak came in with dps fs

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what about ms becoming fs

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and then all the next fs came in carrying (or trying)

heavy cliff
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I said this before

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Ms is like 2 heroes

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lets be real here

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So they can just play like zen and kiri

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because those 2 are the mostused for double flex

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so you play 4 characters

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there has been a lot of ms being able to play fs decently well

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a flex support is supposed to play like 6

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lots of the time ms players don't need to swap

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except a few brig metas

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if the meta isnt really defined

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like hard hard meta

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You can just one trick lucio

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to be the best main support you need to be the best at 2 heroes

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Thats unfair

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few players can do it

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Was this last season of overwatch legue

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Probably

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This might be the last time

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we se fielder and chiyo together

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they will probably be separated next time

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NGL imo best ow1 meta was zarya winston or winston dva, pretty much a tie for n1

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Yeah but thats like a one time thing

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i really hope we get more world cups from now on

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owwc this year was one of the most memorable pro overwatch experiences

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it was just morelike an actual eesport

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it makes me think about what owl could've been

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Chorong underrated

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Top 2 main atleast

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OWWC had the coostreams with ml7 where he did those interviews with the players, after each match, that the owwc didnt do, so itwas independant interviews.

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also it was on twitch

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itm akes me hopeful

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for the future of ow esports

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bunch of seperate tourneys in diff regions

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and maybe one big event where they invite people to korea or smt

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mmaybe it's just hopium

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Well

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theres pro players

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and theres people that like to watch those players

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so theres always gonna be some kind of esport for ow, but yeah we justhave to hope its good

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🙏

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I'm assuming lots of pros are going to valorant

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Yo

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There’s a chance

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God please make this true

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Does it mean we’re staying under the OWL name?

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And city/state based teams?

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@karmic charm

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possibly best photo in owl history?

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So many fans

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The Toronto stadium was like half the size

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But i dont think that’s what’s gonna happen

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Let me be a mayhem fan for another season

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I dont feel the same connection to something like paris eternal than to idk Cloud 9 overwatch

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Feel me

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City based teams are superior when your league works out

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city based names is less healthy for the scene

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Yeah

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Tbh it’s just the name that I care about

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But on a personal level its easier to build a connection to it if you’re from said area/city

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Even if they bring everyone back to an org based team it wont feel the same as being the London spitfire or LA gladiators

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I liked paris eternal because im 3 hours off paris

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I’m as far away from Florida as possible pretty much lol

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Lol

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I love spark and im like

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I just saw the team play during the midseason when I started watching owl and I liked them

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They felt pretty much like some underdogs

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Houston took down philly (infernal) and took the curse with them

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NRG Shock
Optic Fuel
Misfits Mayhem
Gen G. Dynasty
C9 Spitfire
Billibilli Spark

some of these actually sound better than their City brandy already.

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Even though I love the city brand names

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Billibilli spark sounds goofy

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It’s prolly not gonna be that

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Lol

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Billibilli

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Is the Chinese broadcasting thing

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Right

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Owners of the Spark

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Billibilli gaming run the Spark

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Its a mix of a lot of things

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Man do you know what sucked

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In 2020 I had tickets for the London homestead but then COVID came and messed everything up

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Refunded?

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Thankfully

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Still gutted tho

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Yeah

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They could’ve given tickets to the 2021 homestands for those who bought them for the 2020 ones

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If they didnt feel like getting a refund

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i'm okay with losing the city branding as long as we keep owl-ish

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I meant I’m sad about losing the city name but as long as owl lives it’s fine

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i just gotta get all the jerseys from this season then

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i have all of season 1, and season 2

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so get the ones all the teams ended on

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I’m still looking for that spark jacket the spark wore yesterday

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can’t find it anywhere asdfkektndks

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wait

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at scool sorry

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so i just check owl twitter

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no longer city based?

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Is owl going away? What happens to owl tokens then?

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Hahha

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I knew it was houstonable

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for some of these teams

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it ruins some of them

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like misfits was a perfectly fine team name pre owl

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also I think fuel bring back envyus

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since its envy x optic

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iirc

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so there might be 2 teams

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optic and envyus

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So just remove the city

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How will we do that with no mayhem

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florida mayhem was the best team name

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cant change my mind

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They have one of the best names

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compared to some of the teams

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like Dallas Fuel

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it just doesn't sound catchy

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bro

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diablo 4 comes to ow

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Ana

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Why didn't Houston win

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I thought you said they were gonna win

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Wait who won

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Toronto defiant?

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eh?

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Who

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It wasn't fuel again was it?

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No

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Florida won

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Oh Florida mayhem?

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Yes

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ok

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And Houston has yet to win anything

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They are the na infernal

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Soo owl is just changing and not really getting removed?

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how did shock do
Didn't they practically lose their entire team or smthn

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Shock didn't make play offs

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They suck

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oh damn

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idk why they axed their best players

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They got the best rookies

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Max junbin heesang were said to be some of the best talents

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And they were not

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they got rid of colhuge, Mikey and like everyone else that helped almost win last year

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Do they at least still have proper

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Or profit

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Or prophet

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or whoever

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they had proper but he was mega boomed this season

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pressure got to him I think

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and mikeyy was a serious weirdo

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I liked the renko lukemino probe striker pickups but it was too little too late

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tbh colhuge could've won it for them if they had him instead of Mikey last year
But why was he a serious weirdo?

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ngl i mix up coluge and hydron to much

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real

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well heesang was one of the best rookies

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sadly he was on ass team like sh*ck

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so he wasn't able to shine

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yeah

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and looked great

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ya

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he played sojourn right?

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between the two fdps players yeah he was the sj player

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kk just making sure ik who ur talking abt

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He looks so much better on titans

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ya heesang is rly good

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i think the titans just enabled him more

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Yeah

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Titans worked better

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for suree

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what yall think the mayhem mvp skin will be?

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prob a character used in the gf... but who was used again

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even tho it won't happen since london already has it I hope it's a winston skin

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didnt merit play sojourn alot?

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yeah

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im hoping for a sojourn one

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and merit got gf mvp

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that's the most likely scenario

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I was hoping for a sojourn dallas skin

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so hopefully we can get a sojourn florida one

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Maybe bastion

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please no

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I would do VERY bad things

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lol

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if it's a bstion skin

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lol

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I personally want sojourn but a sigma one would also be cool

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overwatch player be normal challenge FAILED

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two problems with dallas' championship skin is it doesn't look like a dallas skin and it's a reaper skin

stoic crow
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Yeah

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Last year they already had the gladiator and Dynasty reaper skins

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not enough flame motifs on the chained reaper skin

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also wish we still got MVP skins

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sucks we will never get a Leave / Proper / Someone skin

stoic crow
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Yeah they ended it after Fleta

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proper would of gotten a tracer skin

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Probably

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jjonak skin goes so hard whyd they stop doing it after fleta

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leave would have taken the tracer skin first

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no way they'd have two mvp tracer skins

stoic crow
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It was planned before that happened that was just a coincidence I guess

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I've never heard that before

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proper fdps player super talented

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same with leave actually

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Maybe Hanzo leave

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what does this mean

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There’s hope

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Maybe

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