#esports-discussion
uncut drum
tawdry hamlet
I don't think the new skin is super bad looking or anything but there is no fuel logo and it looks like they just reused a planned event legendary or something
So I can see that part at least
But I do think it's honestly a little out of proportion it's just a skin lmao
And it isn't super egregiously awful looking or something
flint pagoda
There’s a lot going on but its nice overall imo
uncut drum
Twitter
tawdry hamlet
At least it isn't mm Mei level of bad 🙏
flint pagoda
How do they choose which hero gets the skin? Just the team chooses?
tawdry hamlet
It is usually the hero that played the biggest role in the meta I believe
Hence shock hog
tawdry hamlet
But Idk I'm blanking on how much monkey and doom were used in s1 and s2 finals
tawdry hamlet
But Idk I'm blanking on how much monkey and doom were used in s1 and s2 finals
So idk if it is based on the meta hero
flint pagoda
I only started watching recently so I cant give any input on that
tawdry hamlet
I started watching in s3 sadly
I feel like I missed out on so much
Since s3 was like the last real owl season
flint pagoda
I started playing on ow2 s3 lol
And only started watching at the end of the midseason madness
tawdry hamlet
I don't think the new skin is super bad looking or anything but there is no fuel...
This tweet sums up my take I think
hollow briar
Does it even matter
Dallas fuel won’t exist after Sunday
Or when they lose before Sunday
tawdry hamlet
I wonder if they made the skin less Dallas fuel like to try and separate owl from the skin since owl is dying and it'd be weird having a new skin for a team that won't exist after Sunday
Yeah
hollow briar
tawdry hamlet
What you said
flint pagoda
You think it’ll be the end of pro competitive overwatch?
hollow briar
Probably not
We’ll have to wait what Microsoft does
I’m sure they’ll want a competitive scene considering cod will probably continue just not under CDL
rugged quest
You think it’ll be the end of pro competitive overwatch?
ow is way too popular of a fps to not have a competetive scene
but the money in it will go way down
even from how little there was this year
flint pagoda
but the money in it will go way down
So no big teams like now?
tawdry hamlet
There will be far more teams I think, because anyone will be able to compete, rather than only 40 specific players that manage to get contracts
That is why owl sucks, because if you don't make owl you can't really do shit in ow professionally no matter how good you are
Where as other games have countless leagues and tourneys and smaller tourneys etc.
flint pagoda
It could help promote players to play competitively but they still need to find a way to increase the playerbase
tawdry hamlet
Indeed the other issue is ow as a whole just having small audience nowadays
earnest leaf
Trouble is converting the large casual audience to watch the pro scene
with all platforms OW easily has 300k+ concurrent players
flint pagoda
with all platforms OW easily has 300k+ concurrent players
Really? Surprising because I get the same people in my games a few games in a row sometimes
earnest leaf
I mean steamcharts 24 hour peak is 26k players
and that's a small chunk of the PC population
then add in what could be the rest of the PC population then xbox/ps4
static pond
I’m sure they’ll want a competitive scene considering cod will probably continue...
Prob bring back cwl
uncut drum
Twitter
Worst reasoning ever
I said this on the tweet but I genuinely feel like the skin was a leftover from the upcoming Diablo event. It looks way more "Diablo" than anything remotely reflecting the Fuel.
keen abyss
why the fuck did reaper get 2 skins from the same OWL year
tbh the only skins that make sense from 2022 are the last 3
happi genji clockwork zen chained king reaper
because those were all staple heroes from those stages
m*rcy getting skins for midseason madness
was that hero even played once in that whole tourney ??
reaper did get playtime for kickoff clash but the team that won the tourney 4-0 didnt use him once
sullen berry
Twitter
dreamy quiver
how the hell are the toronto event tickets $57 retail????
stray quarry
how the hell are the toronto event tickets $57 retail????
CHEAP HOLY
someone get me to Toronto QUICK
sullen berry
For Dota TI tickets go for three times that price for General Admission
balmy wolf
Let’s gooo owl finalys soooon wooo
worn python
did they do the same thing last year when u get rewards from watching several hours of the live matches? like the league tokens
i remember last time it was like 10 league tokens per hours watched and it helped me get the lucio all star skin
stoic bronze
The reaper skin is sick, possible mayhem genji skin this year?
tawdry hamlet
how the hell are the toronto event tickets $57 retail????
Overwatch grand finals cost more than the next 5 concerts I'm going to 💀
All time low, senses fail, bowling for soup, and all American Rejects with new found glory were all 45 dollars or less 💀💀
dreamy quiver
Overwatch grand finals cost more than the next 5 concerts I'm going to 💀
hey i saw all time low
tawdry hamlet
I'm seeing them twice this month hehe
dreamy quiver
i went last wednesday
eternal thicket
I have a ticket I'm not gonna use if someone is in toronto
stray quarry
I have a ticket I'm not gonna use if someone is in toronto
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
how much is a plane ticket to toronto….
tawdry hamlet
i went last wednesday
Ayy sick, I'm seeing them in Portland and in Vegas at when we were young
hasty hound
how much is a plane ticket to toronto….
Like 400 at the minimum i thinks
stray quarry
vale cobalt
When one region has spawned more casters than players
fr
and they're all garbage
there are some
energetic ones
the ones that stand out
but the rest is so bad
especially in asia pacific ones
i like unknown and the other guy's casting
sullen berry
Gclef?
Unknown does this shit full time, so I respect his craft even if he can sound monotone at first, it's subtle but he's gotten a lot better from where he started out
plush grail
https://twitter.com/ArmandoGDorta/status/1706789590168670346?t=q2QsKs9dF-KkCDAKq...
Using this logic my vans also qualify as a reaper owl skin
vale cobalt
Unknown does this shit full time, so I respect his craft even if he can sound mo...
he sounds very american lol
very fluent in english
plush grail
How does one sound American
vale cobalt
unknown sounds like an american
sullen berry
i like unknown and the other guy's casting
sullen berry
The most sane OWL Caster
vale cobalt
respect
plush grail
The most sane OWL Caster
Who was the one castet in apac
Seoul vs charge i think
Who showed up crazy
"Who cares who we're sponsored by"
vale cobalt
5head
heavy cliff
jerry>proper
vale cobalt
heavy cliff
imagine the jimmy and jerry dps line
sullen berry
"Who cares who we're sponsored by"
Hexagrams, dude got promoted to content production for OWL the year after lmfao
He isn't with OWL/Blizz now but I so remember moistcritikal did a raid on a random OW streamer and he got the raid
sullen berry
It's harder to find but it's still up
plush grail
censorship
sullen berry
Nah you're just slow https://youtu.be/_vn-lbiW3ZI?si=pdG6d6afNrDRhufW
Me and Sans were looking for this exact VOD last year
sullen berry
And how geguri and fearless are considered the OG Dragons
That ain't my goats MG or Diya
vale cobalt
i do think 5v5 is better in case of messyness and difficulty however 6v6 is more fun
plush grail
but if u get 2 picks the value of those picks is way less
plush grail
opinion discarded
vale cobalt
their abilities are made to peel not frontline zz
dunno man it feels like off tanks are being pushed down
2 tanks > 1 tank
plush grail
no
vale cobalt
yes
plush grail
no
vale cobalt
yes
wheat girder
Hi I want to ask what the best why to get into ow esport am new to it and want to get into it
vale cobalt
Hi I want to ask what the best why to get into ow esport am new to it and want t...
you mean learn more about it?
you can start doing that by asking questions here
wheat girder
Yes
vale cobalt
you can start doing that by asking questions here
what teams are good, which players are decent or what the meta is (the heroes who is strong and being played a lot right now)
i think you can start learning about the overwatch e-sports by asking these kind of questions
vale cobalt
no worries
calm hawk
Is proper still supposed to get a skin or did they stop doing that for MVPs
split flume
they stopped doing that
calm hawk
Wait 😭 really
split flume
ye
calm hawk
I have been a shock fan for 4 years and i was really excited for his skin :/
vale cobalt
its all cuz of the zarya player whom i cannot tell his name
hardy sluice
55k on genshin
the 55k spent on genshin makes u overlook the fact glads was sent chendgu's team comp info
calm hawk
Not really because leave and fleta got their skins too, right?
split flume
I have been a shock fan for 4 years and i was really excited for his skin :/
we have golden hog tho 
leave didn't get a skin
it stopped with fleta
calm hawk
Wait now i say this pretty sure leave never got his
hardy sluice
Wait 😭 really
yes after the whole sinatraa debacle they stopped
calm hawk
vale cobalt
the 55k spent on genshin makes u overlook the fact glads was sent chendgu's team...
yes
it does
vale cobalt
yes after the whole sinatraa debacle they stopped
eyo dont say his name
hardy sluice
they already had the echo skin ready so they released that as the final mvp skin
hardy sluice
eyo dont say his name
???? huh-
vale cobalt
voldemort
calm hawk
Welp i guess ill buy the champs skin for the team that won against shock in finals last year 😭
hardy sluice
is this like a voldemort situation
vale cobalt
yes
hardy sluice
Welp i guess ill buy the champs skin for the team that won against shock in fina...
BURN BLUE BABY
calm hawk
Take my tokens Dallas fans
vale cobalt
you know why
hardy sluice
Take my tokens Dallas fans
gladly appreciated
hardy sluice
you know why
no, I dont really.
calm hawk
League is dying anyway 😭
vale cobalt
no, I dont really.
oh really? it's actually better that you don't know
hardy sluice
best to put a name to someone who did that shit than to leave it unnamed tbh
call out the mf
calm hawk
So embarrassing to be a shock fan and seeing that happen 4 years ago 😢
Refunded the skin tho
hardy sluice
maybe thats just my thought process and you're welcome to disagree if you wish
vale cobalt
i disagree
hardy sluice
however, I'm not gonna let it go uncalled
calm hawk
^
meager onyx
Leave tracer and proper sojourn mvp skins would've gone hard
calm hawk
Yeah 
split flume
i wonder what type of theme they would have gone with
calm hawk
Thats why i wanted them so bad
meager onyx
Sadge
calm hawk
Also proper is just him
vale cobalt
huh
uncut drum
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/16th71z/comment/k2f55aj/ Summary by a better translator
vale cobalt
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/16th71z/comment/k2f55aj/ ...
tbh i really don't care about chinese e-sports drama
it's too boring
and it's old
i want recent stuff
stuff like mayhem 2022 roster re-union tweet is better compared to this
calm hawk
The pic from Someone was so cool
vale cobalt
yes
calm hawk
Hydron smiling big like he is still going there to win it all 😭
vale cobalt
loser smile
does avrl speak chinese btw
he knows a lot about the chinese e-sports and players so
uncut drum
What tweet
meager onyx
Oh shit yeah they were on the same team once I suppose
stray quarry
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/16th71z/comment/k2f55aj/ ...
50k on genshin holy
at least he’s done with genshin though
vale cobalt
at least he’s done with genshin though
is he though
i stopped reading after i saw 55k on genshin
karmic charm
meager onyx
Blue fire = dallas
orchid wigeon
Had my first scrims today
The things I would do for a good Lucio
I got forced onto tank
hazy marsh
Y'all know the owl post season drops from last year right?
Like where depending on the whole season's watchtime you'd get the whole roster's owl skins in sets of 3 and a certain amount of owl tokens right?
Is there any info if they're also doing that this year?
I.e. have they done that years prior to 2022
wispy yacht
Is there any info if they're also doing that this year?
not yet afaik
vale cobalt
https://twitter.com/WhoIeshnack/status/1706738782178099519?t=VNzuvBKrSt2-m2aC9QL...
i see no logo
xd
hollow briar
Is there any info if they're also doing that this year?
Haven’t heard of anything like this
hazy marsh
You didn't see it last year?
hollow briar
Only thing is the grand finals rewards
static pond
Like where depending on the whole season's watchtime you'd get the whole roster'...
They are not they aleady confirm it 12 skins
static pond
vale cobalt
vale cobalt
https://twitter.com/WhoIeshnack/status/1706738782178099519?t=VNzuvBKrSt2-m2aC9QL...
u see if u zoom 200x sure
hasty hound
https://youtu.be/-6xzEB4r8Vg?si=muH7NU635y7X-xhd
the smurf 5k on reign goes hard
vale cobalt
https://youtu.be/-6xzEB4r8Vg?si=muH7NU635y7X-xhd
kalios killing 1 guy on orisa and they put that shit cuz he played 2-3 games max this season 💀
hasty hound
leave him alone :CCC
static pond
kalios killing 1 guy on orisa and they put that shit cuz he played 2-3 games max...
It was a mt season
vale cobalt
i know
static pond
Leaving kalios alone he so chill
vale cobalt
stray quarry
is he though
he says he hasn’t touched it in 2 months
vale cobalt
we could get it if bobby didnt fk the league
ow is the most best competitive game there is
ppl enjoy valorant bullshit when a guy is waiting scoped in for 3 sec and gets dopamine out of it
meanwhile we ow players get goosebumps of certain hero plays
meager onyx
https://twitter.com/DallasFuel/status/1707050941910798689/photo/2
Why does Toronto get to lable every logo. Like they aren't even in it
vale cobalt
ow is very fast paced and a great game and could've been bigger than league only if bobby didnt fk it
vale cobalt
Why does Toronto get to lable every logo. Like they aren't even in it
because they're hosting the event
meager onyx
Thought it was just happening there not they were hosting it
meager onyx
Yeah
uncut drum
https://youtu.be/QyO8_JPTU-E?feature=shared
the bracket terrorists team
vale cobalt
best teamwork in owl history was a very bad take tho
stray quarry
now that I think about it cn overwatch players are really sus
meager onyx
"Beat teamwork" guys i place tp take tp
static pond
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/16th71z/comment/k2f55aj/ ...
So leave boom the hunters
cedar oasis
ow is the most best competitive game there is
Lmao
vale cobalt
Lmao
im not joking
it had the chance to be better than league of legends
only if they didn't create this stupid overwatch league thingy
what do you guys think?
vale cobalt
i mean it is
there's no other fps or moba game more complex and fun at the same time as overwatch
u click to your lane on league of legends and during those 20 seconds u can chill
that's not the case with overatch
on valorant you die and that's it u wait
unless you have a sage on your team
overwatch is fun because it's complex and every little thing matters in my opinion
static pond
im not joking
Tbh I thought league was more competitive then ow
vale cobalt
okay let me rephrase it: it could've been more competitive than league of legends IF bobby didn't fuck it
static pond
I mean as a game lol
vale cobalt
no?
what's fun or competitive about league? i played league of 7 years before i came to ow
i was near grand master on league of legends and i can say that that game is SHIT compared to overwatch
static pond
I don’t think we’re getting any singers this year for the grand finals
vale cobalt
i fell in love with the game as soon as i saw it because i knew that this game is very complex and everything leads to a snowball effect
static pond
what's fun or competitive about league? i played league of 7 years before i came...
I just think it’s more competitive not fun tho
vale cobalt
I don’t think we’re getting any singers this year for the grand finals
i told you the reason, ow could've been the biggest e-sports
you said its about the game
now you said something about the pro scene
i'm confused
static pond
i told you the reason, ow could've been the biggest e-sports
Nvm
I don’t feel like explaining it
vale cobalt
sure
cedar oasis
i mean it is
Lmao
Ow is shit
80 precent of the people playing ow don't like ow
It's either new people who played it cus it's free
Or old players who miss 2017 ow and smurf
The meta always goes to some Mickey mouse shit at the end of owl
vale cobalt
ur cooking something friend
vale cobalt
i hate the players in ow not the game itself
little echo
correct
vale cobalt
great. at least one person is thinking like me
love ur name btw
very inspirational
north relic
80 precent of the people playing ow don't like ow
I love ow :)
cedar oasis
I love ow :)
Ur the vet smurfing
karmic charm
ppl enjoy valorant bullshit when a guy is waiting scoped in for 3 sec and gets d...
ppl enjoy val bc its
easy to understand and watch therefore enjoyable to watch the esport
great casting and production
riot games being riot
in game incentives that actually help teams
songs for champs
etc etc
vale cobalt
ppl enjoy val bc its
easy to understand and watch therefore enjoyable to watch ...
i understand that
we wish we had this on overwatch
and why does every coach say that mayhem have created a low budget team?
merit chorong rupal someone checkmate
isnt cheap
karmic charm
u dont need insane money to get players to sign
vale cobalt
?
karmic charm
players often go for lower salaries to play for certain teams / with players
vale cobalt
these players doesn't seem cheap
karmic charm
for example reign this year doesnt have the highest budget but has an extremely stacked team
vale cobalt
houston is the most expensive imo
vale cobalt
its probably shock
????
vale cobalt
their roster is full of rookies
wdym by the most expensive
shock doesnt have anyone besides proper
as a expensive player
cmon
karmic charm
bc of the people who own them ?? they had the most hyped up roster of the year and were very much expected to be a super team
and shock has been known for big contracts forever
vale cobalt
houston paid violet shu fearless and exchanged merit with happy and pelican was still in houston
karmic charm
ie s*natraa in 2018 was the highest contract of the year at 150k
vale cobalt
ie s*natraa in 2018 was the highest contract of the year at 150k
voldemort
karmic charm
ie s*natraa in 2018 was the highest contract of the year at 150k
and he couldnt even play for half a season
vale cobalt
its like football where a guy signs to a new team and after few matches he gets injured so he's away for 8 months but he still gets paid because you signed a contract with him
kinda crazy
static pond
bc of the people who own them ?? they had the most hyped up roster of the year a...
Think tornto is the highest paid
vale cobalt
karmic charm
Think tornto is the highest paid
idk if theyd pay more than shock but theyre both defo top 2
static pond
idk if theyd pay more than shock but theyre both defo top 2
Ya there was a leak
Forgot where it was tho
Oh ugh apparently it glads then tornto
Shock then Dallas
This was year ago tho
north relic
Ur the vet smurfing
I would never Smurf
cloud latch
ppl enjoy val bc its
easy to understand and watch therefore enjoyable to watch ...
it really do be a massive company diff
modern idol
Huston outlaws are downtown toronto today
uncut drum
flint pagoda
Who do you think wins the outlaws mayhem game tomorrow?
karmic charm
someone zarya is very good
flint pagoda
He was top 3 zarya last season I think
meager onyx
I forget a bunch about last season
ionic raptor
Does Toronto have a buy in for playoffs or are they just gone?
flint pagoda
I want mayhem to win
Outlaws do have the supp advantage ig they have a very strong backline
ionic raptor
Huston outlaws are downtown toronto today
Saw a few people with player badges outside the stadium
that’s crazy
meager onyx
Shouldn't have lost to london then
ionic raptor
Real
flint pagoda
London actually wrecked them pretty much
I expected a lot closer and in favor of toronto but London rolled
meager onyx
Maybe if Toronto swapped orisa illari then yeah
static pond
Lip height catches me off guard every time
https://x.com/overwatchleague/status/1707078215229997074?s=46 thought the biggest rivalry was Huston and atl
timid phoenix
https://x.com/overwatchleague/status/1707078215229997074?s=46 thought the bigges...
Across the season I'd definitely say Houston vs Atlanta was the biggest rivalry but going into playoffs I think Houston vs Florida will be a better match up
vale cobalt
https://x.com/overwatchleague/status/1707078215229997074?s=46 thought the bigges...
EASY HOUSTON WIN
#ANTEUP
meager onyx
Atlanta was kinda the main boss of the season. Only losing maps to houston and Boston. But with both houston and florida beating atl it'll be a good match
meager onyx
EASY HOUSTON WIN
timid phoenix
Atlanta was kinda the main boss of the season. Only losing maps to houston and B...
in first half yeah but hey toronto also took a map off of them
tawdry hamlet
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/16th71z/comment/k2f55aj/ ...
The 50k spent on genshin is honestly a bigger bombshell than any of the owl news lowkey 💀💀
Wild
earnest leaf
most normal genshin fan
tawdry hamlet
static pond
No way yveltal dropped 54k on genshin impact 💀
Tbh that pretty common
One character on genshin made like 10mill
During the first week
vale cobalt
No way yveltal dropped 54k on genshin impact 💀
there is a player called beryL on league of legends
he did the same thing
he is a world champion
2+ times i guess
tawdry hamlet
Justice having their best season because of one playoff run is depressing
earnest leaf
a playoff run that collapsed when they faced the good teams in the region
stray quarry
main takeaways from the xerneas info dump: he was addicted to genshin, cdh had bad management, guxue and lengsa are fruity
vale cobalt
"hadi hammer is too good (i didnt hear what he said tbh), im scared of him"- J1N
HAHAAHAHAHA
sullen berry
https://youtu.be/FLv1mkXA-Uc?feature=shared&t=503
Also a good reminder hyunjae szn
full lichen
https://twitter.com/ATLReign/status/1707138862961643944/photo/1
Why does that look like Someone with LIP?
vale cobalt
great question
vale cobalt
Why does that look like Someone with LIP?
tomorrow we will beat u guys but dont worry we'll play grand finals together so we can have a rematch
full lichen
Don't tell me Mayhem are trading someone to Atlanta and putting Checkmate on rein
full lichen
tomorrow we will beat u guys but dont worry we'll play grand finals together so ...
I think it'll be the other way around, but at least we have similar predictions
full lichen
Lol
stray solar
The last few days of OWL 
vale cobalt
sadge
uncut drum
Wow
tawdry hamlet
I will not lie hadi is proportioned differently than I expected
I thought he was one of those like bulkier guys with lots of muscle mixed in I didn't realize he was just a jacked normal dude
keen abyss
https://twitter.com/OWLViewerr/status/1707099632218829151
i have many disagreements with this list
rugged quest
I thought he was one of those like bulkier guys with lots of muscle mixed in I d...
he has leaned down alot
tawdry hamlet
Fr
keen abyss
Other than fusion s3
fusion s3 shock s2 justice s4
north relic
justice s4 LMAO
north relic
they had more success than justice s4 despite that
s4 justice was a flop compared to expectations
they didn’t make a tourney once and was out first in playoffs
keen abyss
BEST SEASON!!
north relic
that doesn’t matter they went the farthest in a tourney in franchise history
going far in playoffs vs being mid
keen abyss
going far in playoffs vs being mid
2021 was the only season in franchise history
where they went positive
north relic
they were still mid
you can be proud of going that far in playoffs you can’t be proud of being mid
keen abyss
they went 4-17
you cant just ignore that
for a playoffs run where they didnt even make grands
north relic
you can’t ignore justice having 0 success in every tourney in s4
rugged quest
for a playoffs run where they didnt even make grands
its def their most memorable season atleast for me
keen abyss
you can’t ignore justice having 0 success in every tourney in s4
you can
north relic
that isn’t anything
hollow briar
Ok I made it where Infernal wins
north relic
Their wins were against Boston Toronto and OGE mayhem
keen abyss
also wasn't shock more dominant in s2 than s3
their perfect playoffs run after dropping to atlanta
the golden stage
north relic
that doesn’t really matter it’s dominance vs level of competition
s3 most stacked season imo
keen abyss
shock was only narrowly better than the s3 competition
keen abyss
and even then you could argue that they werent even the best team in the league
by the end of it all
rugged quest
Its def debatable
north relic
yea so
rugged quest
fraudelent hog meta in s3 has to be weighed in aswell
north relic
is winning when people were a lot better
or winning when twilight is on the second best team
keen abyss
"people were a lot better"
the people:
north relic
that was a great squad
north relic
talking about mayhem
north relic
mayhem hasnt won a title?
keen abyss
pro am isnt a title
it only wouldve been valid if glads had won
i think yaki
is the goat of wintrading
he sells the bag regularly against his former teams
earnest leaf
shock was only narrowly better than the s3 competition
they were relatively dominant all year long outside of the genji meta
they had like what, 4 regular season losses?, 2 of which were back to back in the beginning
nvm only 3, 1 from philly in a weird off week
that team was just good at every meta
keen abyss
they were relatively dominant all year long outside of the genji meta
playoffs is the only reason shock looked better than shanghai that year
and they were only narrowing better than fusion as fusion had the better reg season and just couldnt clutch out stage tourneys
if fusion gets 2 more maps off of shock in the CC tourney the entirety of who was best in NA before playoffs looks very different
shock wasn't dominant
earnest leaf
They were better than fusion at almost every point of the season
keen abyss
just very very strong
earnest leaf
Season 3 shock for the entire year was largely favorites
if you remember any of that year
they had 1 meaningful loss in the genji meta to paris
where they lost by a single fight
keen abyss
fusion had better reg season + just as many grand finals appearances in reg season tourneys
earnest leaf
their 3 other losses in regular season were quite literally meaningless and it showed with them winning 3/4 tourneys
keen abyss
s3 shock shanghai and philly were all relatively equal in strength
while s2 shock was much better than the next best teams
keen abyss
so s2 is better for shock's best season as a franchise
even if they won less titles (there were less tourneys so that means marginally less but)
earnest leaf
s2 shock was very dominant from them but imo their s3 was better through the diversity in metas they showed their dominance in
they were the best team in all but 1 meta
and that 1 meta they still were nearly the best
by 1 fight
keen abyss
they were the best team in all but 1 meta
in NA
keen abyss
you cant say that when they only played shanghai once
in the one meta they were clearly favored over shanghai in
earnest leaf
shanghai tried dive vs shock and got bitched out of it immediatly
earnest leaf
I don't think you understand how good shock was at dive that year still
smurf/striker just 2v6ed half the time
there is a reason they almost never lost on control with that roster
keen abyss
didnt they lose to glads on control
keen abyss
i just think s2 is a much better argument for shock
they made every single grand finals
won 2/4 of them and were extremely close in their losses
won one of them 4-0 along with their entire loser bracket run
s3 shows other teams catching up to shock as much as you want to try to plead for their dominance
while they were clearly better than any other roster by miles in s2
i dont get how a year with a 28-0 stage
4/4 grand finals appearance
and this run
is not the best year for a franchise
because of a year where they were close in power level to 2 other teams
and couldnt prove that they were in general better than the other dominant team because of a regional split
earnest leaf
I just weigh their ability through all the changes in s3 more than their ability to master one meta
they were insane at goats yea but being better than everyone in constant meta swaps is more impressive to me
cobalt moss
are the grand final's tmrw?
timid phoenix
are the grand final's tmrw?
Grand Finals is on Sunday, but Playoffs start tomorrow
cobalt moss
Ahh algs, ty ty
keen abyss
I just weigh their ability through all the changes in s3 more than their ability...
weren't they 7-0 in stage 4
then the playoffs run
earnest leaf
They were the best poke team, easily the best rush team, and dive was the only comp in which other teams were close
fusion/shd I think were close to them in dive, but mainly in sombra variants
flat dust
How come as tank I win 5 lose 8 times I get plat 2 then I play support win 5 times lose 5 times and I am silver 4?
potent surge
hey all, im from aus, when exactly does the league matches start so i can earn them points? 🙂 Has day 1 started yet?
timid phoenix
hey all, im from aus, when exactly does the league matches start so i can earn t...
check the schedule for times on when the games start for you
Day 1 hasn't started yet, it starts in approximately 10 hours
timid phoenix
How come as tank I win 5 lose 8 times I get plat 2 then I play support win 5 tim...
were you already in plat on tank? were you already in silver as support?
timid phoenix
hey all, im from aus, when exactly does the league matches start so i can earn t...
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(should be the correct time for you but idk if I did it right)
potent surge
<t:1695920400:F>
ah thank you so much, and thats the first day yea?
flat dust
were you already in plat on tank? were you already in silver as support?
No those were placement matches
timid phoenix
No those were placement matches
What about any old seasons? You play comp before?
vale cobalt
its 11 am here :p
vale cobalt
Think I have atl going all the way
L
static pond
Houston vs atl grand finals
Florida and atl have the two best genjis imo
Pelican third
vale cobalt
Houston vs atl grand finals
mayhem houston
static pond
Whoru and stalker
Also y’all really dodge London
I wanted to see a Houston vs London for the first match lol
vale cobalt
houston wins first game and faces mayhem again in the grand finals
there's no atlanta
lament token
is predictions still saveable? i cant seem to save mine
vale cobalt
is predictions still saveable? i cant seem to save mine
i think so
vale cobalt
inferal got first seed SOMEHOW
*loses every play-ins game
*gets first seed
torbjörn looks great
cobalt hornet
What patch is owl on? Are they playing on the Bastion hot fix nerf (no more armor when transforming) or not?
vale cobalt
What patch is owl on? Are they playing on the Bastion hot fix nerf (no more armo...
its the patch where bastion gets 50 armor when he transforms
(stupid patch i know)
floral needle
Hey guys I'm gunna be at school until like 5 et today is there any way I can get my home computer into the livestream at 1 when I'm not even here?
vale cobalt
Hey guys I'm gunna be at school until like 5 et today is there any way I can get...
yes
there is a link
click that
and make ur pc "dont close"
easy
floral needle
wdym there's a link?
vale cobalt
you click this and keep ur pc open
it will start playing once its live and u will get ur coins
floral needle
Oh okay I figured it wouldn't because it plays a 2 minute clip, thank you so much!
vale cobalt
it will once the live stream begins. you're welcome
cobalt moss
does anyone know what the exclusive "thank you" gift is for owl fans that watch grand finals?
vale cobalt
ehm dunno
heavy cliff
https://twitter.com/Jemzamia/status/1705292066786300070
Too tall
vale cobalt
:)))
vale cobalt
spark for win
heavy cliff
how could you
heavy cliff
I want to see my team win
but i hope its at least close
just so that infernal looks even worse compared to their apac counterparts
the only apac team to not win a map in playoffs thats what i want infernal to be
vale cobalt
for us viewers, it's better if matches are close because then we can be more entertained
meager onyx
Poko not playing?
heavy cliff
Thats just mean
vale cobalt
poko is washed
meager onyx
Wdym
vale cobalt
most overrated player there is
heavy cliff
Is he even signed as a player?
vale cobalt
too overrated
meager onyx
He played against seoul with 0 practice and won
vale cobalt
Is he even signed as a player?
he is
vale cobalt
He played against seoul with 0 practice and won
1 map
vale cobalt
you cant
vale cobalt
he lost
meager onyx
surely
vale cobalt
:p
vale cobalt
meager onyx
Fielder played bap alot on paris iirc
heavy cliff
and thats not to say he's not one of the best baps in the world
meager onyx
Poko got scared to play vs hanbin
Mag zarya
heavy cliff
he's one of the best at every flex support
but its just a bad feeling
not that mmonk is any better
so we'll be fine
meager onyx
You don't need to sweat about the first game
heavy cliff
Guxue flexing onto zarya being a possibility
scares the shit out of me
we have no idea what can happen
how do we even predict that
meager onyx
I just think they're playing rein doom monke to counter the zar comps
I don't believe they actually zarya
meager onyx
Guxue beating the ot allegations
heavy cliff
dallas have never lost to atlanta this season, just saying
vale cobalt
i wonder why
weary talon
https://twitter.com/Federal342/status/1707261323925713162
Rein goat and winston goat
vale cobalt
Rein goat and winston goat
doom goat too XD
ionic raptor
Huston outlaws are at the banner rn
heavy cliff
Im excited for this
vale cobalt
Huston outlaws are at the banner rn
yessssssirrrrr
ANTE UP
winton
spark fans where are u
balmy wolf
Letttass goooo spark/atl/ Boston wooo I almost their
vale cobalt
Here I am!
#SparkIt
#LITITUP
i will root for u guys on the first match cuz i dont like atlanta
balmy wolf
Lol
dim egret
I’m so ESCITED WOOOO
vale cobalt
same
fading wing
i’m so fucking tired but day 1
it’s gonna be so cold there again
rip players hands
vale cobalt
https://x.com/atlreign/status/1707403091438346447?s=46&t=9avqc4RHOVVZ1U6RUMncEg
ChoiSehwannnnnnn
meager onyx
Imagine signing someone mid match
balmy wolf
Would be ggs
vale cobalt
huh
vale cobalt
If they sign void it would be gg
void goated
balmy wolf
void goated
No doubt at all he is love tha shdddd
vale cobalt
bro im waiting for atlanta signing
ionic raptor
Made a spark sign using yellow poster board! Look for me
vale cobalt
refleshing the site
vale cobalt
Made a spark sign using yellow poster board! Look for me
send
heavy cliff
if spark win i give up on predictions
apac is different, but spark winningagainst atlanta is too far
balmy wolf
No way dude
balmy wolf
Only comp they know how to play is dive and Atlanta are literally the best at dive
If they mirror them, they’re 10000% losing.
balmy wolf
Any other comp and they’re done for
vale cobalt
area 51 level stuff
balmy wolf
lol what, you think doomxue coming out?
vale cobalt
london hard stomp
infernal coach said hes scared of london
so thats why he sent london to other bracket
balmy wolf
Fuk I just remembered they’re gonna play on the new patch.
vale cobalt
london hard stomp
okay 3-1 win
balmy wolf
so thats why he sent london to other bracket
I think they had no idea picking the team would send them away. I think they wanted to play them tbh.
balmy wolf
okay 3-1 win
I think it’s 3-2
vale cobalt
I think they had no idea picking the team would send them away. I think they wan...
no
j1n (infernal coach) said they dont want to face them
in an interview
hasty hound
Choihobin returns
best tank player eva
i just made that up i never watched any ow1 owl
apparantly he was super good doe
balmy wolf
I’m cheering for infernal but honestly they troll too much
I don’t think they’d beat Dallas
vale cobalt
i just made that up i never watched any ow1 owl
zz
hasty hound
vale cobalt
I’m cheering for infernal but honestly they troll too much
they're a big L
hasty hound
poor hawk omg????
vale cobalt
https://x.com/ATLReign/status/1707403091438346447?s=20
void
balmy wolf
Replacing Hawk?
hasty hound
probably
theres not really any reason when u have the best players on every other role
tank is reigns only weak point
balmy wolf
Their off tank is weak
hasty hound
wasnt void the best offtank in the world at one point
cedar oasis
Top 6
heavy cliff
why dont we have things like the widow 1v1 tournament in owl anymore
balmy wolf
You think teams will play Zarya this patch?
hasty hound
You think teams will play Zarya this patch?
prob
balmy wolf
And London gonna continue playing rein
hasty hound
yea
which means teams will still probably play orisa into london
and zar into everyone else
balmy wolf
I feel like infernal gonna play rein only again
hasty hound
except smurf cause he favors queen into reign
hasty hound
I feel like infernal gonna play rein only again
didnt hadi say mag was a like really good rein player
i dont think poko playing zar for them either
balmy wolf
didnt hadi say mag was a like really good rein player
Back in ow1 I guess
I don’t think poko is gonna play
balmy wolf
Poko literally played ONE game
hasty hound
did they win
balmy wolf
I hope hyunjae is working well with infernal
balmy wolf
did they win
Yes. It was on circuit and they played sigma
hasty hound
omg coluge dupe
balmy wolf
but yk lack of time to practice and such
Yeah I hope it’s enough time. It’s been like 3 weeks
hasty hound
thats a decent amount of time if they scrimmin often
balmy wolf
Also he’s from contenders
hasty hound
fixa skewed had some syngery going awn tho
hasty hound
he said the injury might permanently affect his career in gaming as a whole
i just feel super bad for him
balmy wolf
But from what I’ve seen, hyunjae was actually pretty decent on Lucio their last game
hasty hound
yea he was
balmy wolf
Guess fixa should start building his streaming career
hasty hound
mmore like in 1 hour
hasty hound
Guess fixa should start building his streaming career
reel
weary talon
Tonite is in 1 hour
balmy wolf
I’m gonna go get some coffee before the game starts
cloud latch
you have time to get drunk and sober up before your game starts
vale cobalt
FRRRR
vale cobalt
sure sure
cloud latch
vale cobalt
cringe comment
we're the best team there is
mayhem isnt a problem for us
their fate has been decided
karmic charm
I think we’ll get another year
most west teams will vote to leave too
vale cobalt
10 mins left
hazy marsh
How many trophies does ur team have?
'Guyshhhh my team ushhhed to be good' ☝️ 🤓
vale cobalt
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
umbral elm
okay the important question: why is the youtube stream not showing me that bnet is connected? (it is connected, but it normally shows under the stream)
dim egret
okay the important question: why is the youtube stream not showing me that bnet ...
reset it fixed it for me
icy cedar
okay the important question: why is the youtube stream not showing me that bnet ...
I heard perks start later but I wanna clarify that, too
umbral elm
okay now it appears. earlier restarts didn't help
vale cobalt
https://x.com/BostonUprising/status/1707432774901158278?s=20
sheeesh
MEDIA
day be like
dim egret
HOORAY
sullen berry
vale cobalt
yeeeee haaaaaa
split valve
How do I know my progress into the youtube drops for the OWL finals?
uncut drum
you dont
dim egret
Wtf is the London spitfire tank doing as a caster
untold yarrow
GOLDEN BOY AAAA WHAT A THROWBACK