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uncut drum
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but landon kept them up

dreamy cave
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I do not like the illari. Please play soljorn.... defiant please

tawdry hamlet
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Spectra and hydron are cool and all, but tbh I think Lenny clears them

uncut drum
vale cobalt
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majed

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overrated

hasty hound
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WHAT IS HYDRON DOING

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LMAOOOO

vale cobalt
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ults after 3 ppl dies

hasty hound
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bro swapped widow instead of someone useful

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😭

meager onyx
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hydron is useless no way....

tawdry hamlet
meager onyx
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who woulda seen that coming...

weary talon
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Pls just nerf window

finite sparrow
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admiral would be getting screamed at if london wasnt clutching every fight

uncut drum
static pond
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Ist specta usually on the soj or genji?

tawdry hamlet
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If hurricane had anyone other than kellex Ripa we would have seen them pop off in owl far earlier

meager onyx
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why are they not adapting

tawdry hamlet
meager onyx
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like

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this is actually so infuriating

uncut drum
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they are playing with their food

vale cobalt
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@uncut drum maximo is cooking

static pond
tawdry hamlet
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True

static pond
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Atl also did it

uncut drum
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yeah i saw

meager onyx
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like get the fuck off orisa illari

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xd

finite sparrow
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old owl would play whatever now if theu didnt scrim it they wont do it

static pond
little echo
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that team also had fucking ddannedd

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who is not that guy

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so they had a ton of holes individually

tawdry hamlet
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It must have felt like turbo shit to win contenders like 4 times straight and then be the only one on the team not promoted to owl lmaoo

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Poor danned

little echo
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and having blase AND hybrid get picked up over you

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is crazy

tawdry hamlet
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Hybrid is the worst hitscan in owl history

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Chex clears him

little echo
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have you heard of ans tbh

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(real)

tawdry hamlet
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Even half retired s4 linkzr clears hybrid by a mile

little echo
heavy scroll
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finally they're doing something

little echo
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half retired linkzr cleared 2020 linkzr

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2020 linkzr was giga depressed tho

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I believe

finite sparrow
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full hold time

tawdry hamlet
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2020 was weird

finite sparrow
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3 mins

uncut drum
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here comes the hold

tawdry hamlet
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How was birdring Kevin like 11th

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In 2020

little echo
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oge

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boomed

tawdry hamlet
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True I forgot about oge

north relic
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the support line was not very good either

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kevster was on ping

little echo
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oge heard the meta was orisa and started tying a noose

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had to be talked down by mirror

tawdry hamlet
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Shaz biggoose and Kevin on da ping plus oge sounds diabolical levels of bad tbh

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Understandable

uncut drum
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massive shatter

north relic
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kevin was a masked man back then

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he was genji

tawdry hamlet
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True I forgot the hype around his face reveal back then

little echo
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WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER 🇺🇸 🦅

heavy scroll
tawdry hamlet
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Why did space have such a hard downfall. Did he want to dip out of the spotlight or did that one thing derail his career?

little echo
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space unironically started watching andrew tate videos and shit

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he’s an andrew tate manosphere type guy now

heavy scroll
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ew

little echo
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which is extremely sad

north relic
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also last year was all reiner who looked great

tawdry hamlet
north relic
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they won the first two stages so they didnt really need sapce

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and then JQ metea

tawdry hamlet
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Debunked as in he didn't know, not he didn't do it 💀

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Was just sadge because he was one of the bigger streamer presences too

uncut drum
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wow cap

balmy wolf
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It might just be me not paying attention but I’d hydron even playing?

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Where is he

heavy scroll
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he's there, kinda

dreamy cave
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Remove bastion nade. Remove it from his kit. He does not need that ability

balmy wolf
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Nah he’s not

static pond
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Kai or hydron?

balmy wolf
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I refuse to believe he is

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Hydron

tawdry hamlet
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This game is so hard to pay attention to. It feels like one of those one team will not adapt and just look pathetic games

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Like you know the games where one team is on a wonky comp and just gets steamrolled despite being far better than that

uncut drum
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good push

tawdry hamlet
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Chengdu used to have moments like that a lot

balmy wolf
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Oh there he is

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I saw hydron

finite sparrow
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ok now full hold time...

tawdry hamlet
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Where they would just throw via team comp

balmy wolf
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In the kill feed dying

dreamy cave
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Good hold

heavy scroll
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i think its cause hydron's not making big plays so the caster's aren't talking about him

dreamy cave
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Holy that fight was soo long I thought I was watching goats

heavy scroll
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so it doesn't feel like he's here

finite sparrow
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hydron is actually getting bastion diffed

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rn

dreamy cave
tawdry hamlet
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Heesang bastion clears all

static pond
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It feels like every hero hydron plays he been diff on

balmy wolf
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Nah

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Don’t you remember his widow vs Lip’s?

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Oh…nvm

heavy scroll
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theres hydron

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we found him

balmy wolf
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When did they swap him in?

dreamy cave
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COME ON DEFIANT I NEED YOU

heavy scroll
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LETS GO

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finally a w sun

uncut drum
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so close

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this better go to map 5

amber cradle
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That shatter…

uncut drum
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if not

balmy wolf
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Sirmajed carry

tawdry hamlet
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Col huge

dreamy cave
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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO

weary talon
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No touchers ?

vale cobalt
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cringe hero wins

little echo
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WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER 🇺🇸 🦅

dreamy cave
karmic charm
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london chokefire 🙏

heavy scroll
weary talon
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Ik

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Thats why i said that

heavy scroll
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i see

balmy wolf
# heavy scroll finally a w sun

Sirmajed spoke about her ult and he said that you just use it whenever you have it even if it doesn’t get any kills. Like a pulse bomb, don’t hold on to it. That’s why a lot of the ult doesn’t get kills.

balmy wolf
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Neither of the teams are American teams

balmy wolf
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It’s Canadian and English

little echo
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WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER 🇺🇸 🦅

tawdry hamlet
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It's a hydron quote

balmy wolf
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I remember seeing that spam in World Cup. Thought it was hilarious

weary talon
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God did!

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🤞

tawdry hamlet
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Call me asparagus

dreamy cave
heavy scroll
weary talon
little echo
tawdry hamlet
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Thank you

balmy wolf
tawdry hamlet
weary talon
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I gotta see that

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Ive only seen the cropped version

uncut drum
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the mid team wins midtownhttps://x.com/Spitfire/status/1703561734974230872?s=20

Midtown is still mid

heavy scroll
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finally a banger intro

tawdry hamlet
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💀

finite sparrow
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If you nearly lose to london on midtown its bad

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its their worst map

tawdry hamlet
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Coluge pose

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The thinker

balmy wolf
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Fire intro

meager onyx
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why are they so determined to not play opener

uncut drum
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landon gets so many windows

tawdry hamlet
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I am convinced opener got into owl the first time just so justice could say they had opener and closer on support

meager onyx
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lmao

tawdry hamlet
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Why was ojee ultraviolet so overrated for so long, why did it take 2 years of mid for people to realize that

unique turret
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Imo hadi is getting a bit carried by supps

meager onyx
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toronto was shit with uv and ojee wdym

tawdry hamlet
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I know I mean people still thought uv ojee was good despite them doing air for 2 years

meager onyx
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ig they were just hyped from contenders

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i dont remeber ojee doing anything impressive at all

balmy wolf
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Lol chatters don’t get the game

tawdry hamlet
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Tornado was the best all Western team of all time for a while so it makes sense they got rated highly but like, other than coluge and Reiner and hydron the rest all kind of did nothing in owl

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Speedily and s9mm deserved better 😭

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False sucked in owl

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Wub too

meager onyx
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s9mm didnt deserve to be kicked from toronto

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imo

tawdry hamlet
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Echo player when echo isn't relevant moment

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😭

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Speedily was supposed to be him, and then joined owl when none of his heroes were meta

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Another person who shouldn't have been booted imo is lep

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Ojee is the same tier as him

meager onyx
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lep better than ojee (im a bit biased)

finite sparrow
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Gibraltar map 5

meager onyx
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but nyxl also subbed there 4 supports for fits

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so

tawdry hamlet
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Fits deserved better than to retire in off role jail like fleta

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Teru was at least serviceable in his off role

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But alphayi flora deadlifted that team

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I cannot be the only one that thinks this series is super boring right?

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OmegaLUL there's no hype like last game

meager onyx
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london keepin my attention span awake

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this game should feel more hyped but this is just sleeper

tawdry hamlet
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It should feel more hype but somehow crimzo faith punk Lenny and heesang are better at adapting

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Than colhuge and the gang

meager onyx
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yeah

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holy landon gap

tawdry hamlet
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Landon Spitfire

meager onyx
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landon is the backbone of this team

static pond
meager onyx
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very funny origonal joke

dreamy cave
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I missed the map

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Hoe was it?

meager onyx
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boring

static pond
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Hoe

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Lmao

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That funny

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And

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Uh

meager onyx
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landon stat farming

static pond
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One sided

dreamy cave
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Thanks for the helpful information

heavy scroll
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yeah spitfire really started moving when landon joined

mortal cipher
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yeah

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that was one bap diff

meager onyx
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wtf is majed doing

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like

mortal cipher
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welp

dreamy cave
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I think it's more so bc defiant don't have a shield he's getting soo mich free extra damage

meager onyx
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this is prob ur last map and ur goin for these shitty hydron flanks

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they already have cp

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ggs

hollow bough
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idk what hes doin

static pond
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Why did they pick this map

uncut drum
worldly mesa
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:[ toronto

uncut drum
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It did

mortal cipher
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lol

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that went well

meager onyx
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omg

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the stagger

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how do u even play against london

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theyre literally counterplaying everything

dreamy cave
finite sparrow
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hydron being a goober icl

heavy scroll
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majed PLS

tawdry hamlet
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Sirmadead first every fight

meager onyx
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ok hadi also does some trolling

mortal cipher
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at this point does it even matter if hes trolling

dreamy cave
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Man... I'm just hurt

meager onyx
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wtf is happening

dreamy cave
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Didn't defiant win before from playing soljorn against london?

meager onyx
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they deny the checkpoint

mortal cipher
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i dont think so

meager onyx
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omg

heavy scroll
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sad

tawdry hamlet
meager onyx
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GG

heavy scroll
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reminder to never count on defiant for anything

dreamy cave
finite sparrow
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proud of my boysLondonSpitfire LondonSpitfire LondonSpitfire LondonSpitfire

hollow bough
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lol

meager onyx
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defiant were so bad

hollow bough
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majed threw so badf

mortal cipher
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well

meager onyx
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fr

balmy wolf
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meager onyx
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defiant dont make their own event

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jeez

mortal cipher
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fr

humble yarrow
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I thought defiant had that in the bag

dreamy cave
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I just do not like illari as support for their comp. I know majed is the best. But it's not enough bruh

humble yarrow
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I was proven wrong

mortal cipher
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we said it as a joke we didnt think it would be reality

meager onyx
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im voting on london to win it all

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because fuck it

humble yarrow
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Dallas and London in the finals

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Calling it

meager onyx
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i doubt dallas go far

dreamy cave
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I blame Jake for voting defiant

tawdry hamlet
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Has London Beat Florida or Houston or Atlanta this year or just map fives? Genuinely asking

amber cradle
mortal cipher
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London about beat houston in a map 5

meager onyx
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they got map 5 with outlaw and they really choked it

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i wanna see them against mayhem

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i need a refresher on how good they are

mortal cipher
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yeah houston just clutched

grave python
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LET'S GO LONDON

humble yarrow
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Play offs start next weekend?

amber cradle
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What are the teams in the playoffs then

tawdry hamlet
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So they've beat every single mid team in the league now, we just need them to beat all 3 top teams too.

meager onyx
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Dallas Spark Infernal Mayhem Outlaws Reign Boston London

tawdry hamlet
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Easy task surely

heavy scroll
humble yarrow
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I don't think London can beat mayhem or reign

restive forge
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london would be put on fraudwatch if they didnt have the best western supports in the league btw wanted to out that out there

amber cradle
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Tho

heavy scroll
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STOP SINGING IT

meager onyx
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3 apac 5 west

humble yarrow
heavy scroll
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next week thursday mhm

humble yarrow
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Cool

vagrant cargo
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EU>NA once again proven

errant hornet
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I mean tbh

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its like EU = NA <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< KR

meager onyx
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wrong sign

dreamy cave
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I'm mad they didn't play soljorn. Alot of this could have been easier

meager onyx
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its not even sojourn

tawdry hamlet
errant hornet
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gg

meager onyx
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its the stupid orisa illari

uncut drum
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He is pissed

errant hornet
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why can

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can't we just accept that london played pretty well and knew how to play a comp not everyone is playing (rein) :3

meager onyx
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pretty well is an understatement

mortal cipher
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they broke them

tawdry hamlet
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I mean beating mid teams is playing pretty well, if they had beaten Houston or Atlanta all the way I'd say its an understatement

uncut drum
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Jake last how

meager onyx
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he curses all the teams he votes for

uncut drum
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I think I pissed him off

heavy scroll
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damn

tawdry hamlet
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Not discounting London at all but respectably, Defiant, Titans, Justice, Shock, Valiant, Vegas, Glads, Valiant, are their most recent wins. They lost against real teams so I'm kind of worried getting too hyped on them because realistically that's an ez schedule

uncut drum
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Getting to playoffs it good enough for them for this season

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That is what Chris said

tawdry hamlet
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Fair

mortal cipher
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tbf the SMM talked shit like months ago

tawdry hamlet
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I will not lie I forgot chipsas brother was their head coach lmao

mortal cipher
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lol

tawdry hamlet
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Fearless Hadi dps lineup would be goated ez

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I agree with danny

mortal cipher
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yeah

uncut drum
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Who do you think is picking London

mortal cipher
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whos the closest to toronto

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lol

uncut drum
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Um

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Geography wise

mortal cipher
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Boston

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maybe

uncut drum
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Let me Google that

hollow briar
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How many teams are going to Toronto

uncut drum
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Geography wise it is Boston

meager onyx
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8

uncut drum
hollow briar
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How 8

uncut drum
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It was 12 last year

hollow briar
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I only see 3 teams in the brackets

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Fuel, spitfire, and uhh

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Ok 2 I see

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Who are the other 6

dreamy cave
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HOLY

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MAYHEM HOUSTON FIRST MATCH

tribal canopy
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What is this weird ass format

uncut drum
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This picking is weird

mortal cipher
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every team drafts each other

uncut drum
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Ah

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Makes more sense

tribal canopy
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Still weitd

dreamy cave
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I'm so happy mayhem is far away from us

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@vale cobalt as scared as I am of mayhem... I think I will enjoy watching them destroy houston

floral needle
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As a spark fan... at least they made it to playoffs

static pond
floral needle
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I think they can maybe beat the spitfire, but they're not beating the reign and the uprising

static pond
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Dallas vs infernal

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Why

floral needle
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That's gunna be a really good match though

static pond
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Idc for it

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It should be apac vs na tbh

mortal cipher
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yeah

timid phoenix
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the way they drafted it was really stupid

cloud latch
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HOW did they make this bracket

static pond
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Why is Florida and Huston down there

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?

timid phoenix
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they "drafted" teams

dreamy cave
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If I had spitfire in Houston and mayhem bracket I would sleep easy

timid phoenix
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london got 3rd pick for opposite bracket 💀

cloud latch
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simply no way the two worst teams get to play eachother

north relic
floral needle
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wait isnt feul and infernal both in the east region..?

static pond
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Yes

cloud latch
static pond
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Apac

floral needle
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oh youre saying apac teams should play na teams

north relic
static pond
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We just saw Boston vs London

floral needle
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there'd be a leftover team for na but still

static pond
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Like why tf

floral needle
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gandolf trippin rn

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he put the confident face on when he know they're gonna get smoked

meager onyx
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why did they make fuel vs infernal

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zzzzzzzzzzzz

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do fuel vs outlaws infernal vs london or someshit

static pond
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Fr

meager onyx
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why east vs east

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wtf

static pond
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Didn’t we also just see Huston vs Florida?

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Before play ins

meager onyx
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the ONLY unique match is spark vs atlanta

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how did they fuck this up

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HOW

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????????????

static pond
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That gonna be so one sided

meager onyx
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do they want an atlanta vs mayhem/outlaws runs

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like

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fr

static pond
meager onyx
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I could make this format in 10 sec

dreamy cave
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"It won't be easy, but I can make it easy" gigachad

meager onyx
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and it would be better

mortal cipher
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Kariv the legend

heavy scroll
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was not expecting that accent

mortal cipher
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waht Tazmo's

heavy scroll
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yeah

mortal cipher
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i believe hes Scottish

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or irish

heavy scroll
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i was gonna say irish

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but idk

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Jake what type of logic is that

icy cedar
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Is it still Double Elimination for all teams?

mortal cipher
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Ok hes Scottish thats what i thought

meager onyx
uncut drum
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See even inferfal is surprised that they were first seed

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Wtf is Sean miller smoking

mortal cipher
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yeah

slow lake
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How is Infernal first seed

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I'm so lost

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Spark have the better average knockout placement

uncut drum
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Sean miller moment

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Yeah

slow lake
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Infernal didn't even make Top 2 in their Bracket for Summer Stage lmfao

meager onyx
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how is anything this tourney

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like how

uncut drum
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I tweeted at Sean not going to get a reply but hope he sees how stupid he is

slow lake
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The Spark somehow as the BEST TEAM IN APAC, are facing the #1 Seed NA team

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That is a joke

earnest leaf
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just saw the bracket

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what the fuck are they cooking

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what's wrong with a double elim bracket

meager onyx
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#1 team vs #1 team

uncut drum
slow lake
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Semi Finals aren't Double Elim either wtf

uncut drum
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Re tweet this to hell

dreamy cave
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@vale cobalt u ready to fight mayhem?

hard rapids
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The fact that Toronto ain’t even making it to their own playoffs

meager onyx
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toronto are more dissappointing than shock

dreamy cave
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Don't think you can disappoint harder than a one man team with proper on it

hard rapids
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That’s a hot take

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A team with kevster didn’t even make play-ins

dreamy cave
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Don't worry. Kevsuter is going to end up getting picked up by a team in playoffs

meager onyx
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i think everyteam except like justice and titans and those who made playoffs were dissappointing

dreamy cave
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(Jk)

meager onyx
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glads tank being on a mixed roster was a way bigger toll than it should have been

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they didnt get it figured out until they had to play against the good teams

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that being boston

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and even then they werent guaranteed to make playins

mortal cipher
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Shock had high expectation but something that looks that good was bound to explode blame M8Ball

meager onyx
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proper really set the bar too high for himself

dreamy cave
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Kai was mid to below mid all season for them

meager onyx
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perhaps but yaki had some REALLY hard throws with his sombra

dreamy cave
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Wait

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Is yaki on glads?

meager onyx
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yea

dreamy cave
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Okay yeah. Nothing is wrong with yaki

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I have yaki at the same caliber of tracer genji as striker and proper fr

meager onyx
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nothing? im not too sure about that my man

dreamy cave
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Look at yaki gameplay.

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I know yaki is op just from how I've seen him play against my team and against proper

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He's really good

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And I know it was kai lacking on dps holding glads back because his soljorn skill and play making output severely slowed down later into the season last year for atl.

meager onyx
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obv kai wasnt a help but yaki being locked to the sombra wasnt helping either

dreamy cave
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Very true.

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But image if glads had a another dps over kai to play the sombra and yaki on tracer

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They would have been strong

meager onyx
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you pick yaki over kevster on tracer?

hard rapids
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This bracket is so ass

dreamy cave
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That's a bit rough. Tbh I think kevster would be a better hitscan for yaki tracer as a duo

hard rapids
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How is spark not first seed

hard rapids
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I think it’s just the meta

dreamy cave
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True. But I could see them definitely beating some of the other teams they struggled against eairler and through the season

hard rapids
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Like no hitscans were good so u couldn’t play kai

meager onyx
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they should have DEF beat some teams they lost to

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but most of that is marvel not being able to effectively communicate

dreamy cave
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Exactly. And if they had role overlap with kevster yaki. It still would have worked in the long run after figuring out what dynamic works best for them both

meager onyx
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im not talking about yaki kev?

dreamy cave
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Wait huh?

meager onyx
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they werent perfect but also not the main issue

meager onyx
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also didnt something happen with lastro

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so they got kal

dreamy cave
meager onyx
dreamy cave
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Kal was a support though right??

meager onyx
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yea

dreamy cave
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I uhhhh

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What was their support lineup.

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Let me see

meager onyx
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kal astro

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kal astro lastro babel

dreamy cave
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Honestly. I don't think they needed another support.

tawdry hamlet
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Glads and Shock whiffed on their backline this year

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Bad choices

meager onyx
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shock couldnt find a good backline after violet left

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they picked up vindaim and he flopped

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then they grabbed the vegas player and renko

tawdry hamlet
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Losing violet will take a toll but vindaim Finn bad

dreamy cave
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I understand that Illiari was a new support. But I don't feel like she's a must pick. They could have stuck with funny astro and lastro and it just not play kai. Run the sombra tracer. Or the tracer and echo or tracer soljorn. Because it would ahwv worked

meager onyx
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she is not that good

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like look at majed

dreamy cave
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Yeah I agree

meager onyx
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he is otp her and lucio would get so much more value

tawdry hamlet
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Kai isn't good enough to be on a two dps team imo

dreamy cave
#

I agree

tawdry hamlet
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He needs a fallback player to cover his faults

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To look good

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Ie pelican Edison

meager onyx
#

kai is like that sniper pick who doesnt even a top tier sniper

tawdry hamlet
#

Covering everything so Kai can just play his good heroes and shine

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But when he's the primary option he fails

dreamy cave
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Pelican was soooo good too

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But kai man

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He let me down after their close match with glads that one tournament

meager onyx
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i wanna see peli and edison on the same team again

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that duo goes nuts

dreamy cave
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I like edison. But he's replaceable tnh

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Tbh

tawdry hamlet
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We've had so many insane new dps players since s4, pelican, shy, proper, stalker, flora, alphayi, viper merit checkmate. It is really cool to see the new players be better or on par with all time goats

meager onyx
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edison is easy to compare people to

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but idk bout easy to replace

tawdry hamlet
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It just feels like we've had a ton of "prodigy" level talents in a row, pelican, shy, proper, merit, stalker

meager onyx
#

true

dreamy cave
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Merit I feel like is slept on

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I would put merit far above kai

tawdry hamlet
#

Merit is happy level imo

meager onyx
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i feel like 0 ppl care about who is on mayhem except someone

tawdry hamlet
#

Happy and Leave having career years was also fun too we love that for them

dreamy cave
#

Yeah. Mayhem is a scary team fr

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I honestly fear them more than I fear london

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Thats y atl picked them to be on a separate bracket

meager onyx
#

atlanta have the easiest time rn

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boston beat london once im sure they can do it again

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then its just atlanta vs boston

tawdry hamlet
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Boston are the weakest of the top 4 imo

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Which is wild to say given the roster

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Is all legends

meager onyx
#

really?

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oh boston compared to mayhem outlaws reign

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yea yea

tawdry hamlet
meager onyx
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theres nothing particularly special about them other than them being decorated veterans

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decay and birdring really arent too good compared to the other dps combos from other teams

tawdry hamlet
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Birdring is still so fucking good tho I love birdring, he's such a sleeper goat dps

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I just don't think decay birdring are strong enough on their own 😭

meager onyx
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i feel like its a potential thing he CAN be really good but he just isnt poppin off

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thats kind of their whole roster

tawdry hamlet
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Birdring sojourn yesterday was crazy

meager onyx
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london went from 2-8 TO 8-9

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love how hype the casters are

earnest leaf
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Shock also had the downfall this year is you could only confidently say one player on their team was better than most or if not all other players in their role

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besides proper there were a large portion of players better than every shock player in each role

meager onyx
#

yea

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proper just didnt really have anything to backhim up

earnest leaf
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like s5 shock had proper/viol2t/coluge who all had very strong arguments for being near the top of their role

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this year just proper

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and by coluge I mean for his off tanks

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sig/dva

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his monkey was mid

meager onyx
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he was the best sig that season

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still is prob

earnest leaf
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he was yea

tawdry hamlet
#

It pains me that spitfire are outperforming the team cc no hill reunion roster and the wheats Redbird reunion roster

restive forge
#

yall WHAT is this playoff bracket

uncut drum
hasty hound
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Kalios :p

#

When r playoffs anyways

timid phoenix
hasty hound
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I got wait tew weeks

#

oh naur

jagged dragon
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(before anyone says it, yes I have accepted the reality we're kinda fucked in the playoffs)

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We gotta beat Boston and Atlanta to get to the finals

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Basically a death sentence

#

Hangzhou spark will probably be the easiest match for us

weary talon
#

Who designed this

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So

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Theres no double elims brackets if you lose in semis you’re done for and spark got fucked over for the third time in a playoff now

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It could’ve been this

dim egret
#

Toronto lost

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Sad

humble token
#

Hot take spark gonna beat atlanta

weary talon
#

Sure

#

Spark have to play atl london boston mayhem to even get to the semis

dim egret
#

Spark is just being tortured

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I feel like they made this brackets in a way that leads to Atlanta reign Vs florida mayhem

jagged dragon
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It's London Boston Atlanta

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But still, they're gonna struggle to get through

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You've got 2 teams of raw skill and 1 team so unique you need to train specifically against their comp

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Honestly I'd love to see London pull out a new modifications of the current comp that benefits from the new patch

karmic charm
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it never used to be sym bastion on their rush

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it was always like soj mei

weary talon
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Because you already know they lose to reign and its winnable against london and boston

karmic charm
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spitfire winning it all

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btw if u get 7th/8th in playoffs u get 0 money 💀

weary talon
#

….

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And then they wonder why owl is failing

nova urchin
broken ibex
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Spitfire winning the whole thing btw

static pond
#

Still no word on what patch there playing on

weary talon
#

They’re playing on the zarya patch

#

It’s confirmed

tidal marsh
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LETS GO LONDON

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WOOOOOOO

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We made playoffs!!

static pond
#

Ljg is such a bro

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Also lip going for flanks as bastion is so entertaining they use Lw flower and lip drops at the backline

heavy cliff
#

Contenders are on the latest patch no?

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So why wouldnt playoffs be there too

vale cobalt
heavy cliff
vale cobalt
heavy cliff
#

I think its bs that Florida and houston play so early

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lIke wh

#

y

vale cobalt
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cuz of a person called sean miller

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hes a fraud

static pond
vale cobalt
#

ehm

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we dont talk about that

heavy cliff
#

Boom

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fixed it (sorta)

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i could've switched boston and london

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but idk

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bc Spark vvs boston seems like it'd be a fun game

static pond
heavy cliff
#

yeah

static pond
#

Good bracket tho

heavy cliff
#

I put infernal against altanta because they dont even deserve to be here

vale cobalt
#

than seal miller aka fraud's bracket

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that guy is too busy running a marathon

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theres no fkn way they made this

static pond
vale cobalt
#

can i text to sean miller on twitter

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how does it work

tidal marsh
#

whats the bracket looking like rn?

vale cobalt
#

houston vs. mayhem

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why does a two top 3 team face each other so early?

tidal marsh
#

BRO THIS SUCKS

#

WHY are we playing boston first!!

vale cobalt
#

give us (houston) spark and fuel to mayhem

#

like wtf

vale cobalt
#

BIRDRINGGGGGGGG

static pond
tidal marsh
#

why are the 2 playin teams playing eachother first LMAOO!!

tidal marsh
vale cobalt
#

fr

#

sean miller is such a dog

heavy cliff
#

Here since i cant post pics ill made it a tweet

#

this is what i think of the playoffs

vale cobalt
#

lol

#

wtf mannnn

heavy cliff
#

Infernal even in the loosers bracket have to face houston or florida

vale cobalt
#

why t f

#

are we

heavy cliff
#

ill thoroughly enjoy every second of it

vale cobalt
#

facing

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mayhem

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at the start

#

its bad for them too

heavy cliff
#

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

vale cobalt
#

losing early is bad

#

like its not entertaining

#

give us spark

heavy cliff
#

Having them face of this early isnt good

vale cobalt
#

give mayhem fuel or boston

#

dunno man

#

oh give infernal

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to mayhem

#

problem solved

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2 playins vs. 2 playoffs teams

#

am i wrong @full lichen

tidal marsh
#

why isnt this the bracket layout

vale cobalt
#

lol

tidal marsh
#

the loser bracket runs have always been the best bit of playoffs

rugged quest
vale cobalt
#

BRO HOWWWWWWWWWWWW

#

100% WR

#

@floral needle thoughts?

#

@slate siren ?

karmic charm
#

that makes no sense

#

less wr less maps won less map diff

#

oh it hasn't even countered summer yet

vale cobalt
#

100% wr

#

more wins

#

more everything

#

more diff

#

like XD

karmic charm
#

it's bc summer isn't counted I think

#

that's only spring still

vale cobalt
#

fk it

#

i cant take it

#

sean miller #FIREEEEEEEHMIMMMMM

heavy cliff
#

Infernal are gonna get curb stomped the first 2 rounds, deserved, dynasty would've gone further probs, since void can play zarya.

#

As i said

#

infernal dont even belong in the playoffs

#

barely belong in play ins

karmic charm
#

nah infernal deserve it

#

they were the best apac team for the entire year up until they summer knockouts

weary talon
#

Spark done been getting fucked over in playoffs for the third time now

vale cobalt
#

ok guys the thing i dont get it is

#

how the fck is two play-ins teams play with each other and how tf is two play-offs play with each other at the very beginning and how tf is spark not first seed?

static pond
vale cobalt
#

LOL

#

FINALLY

#

ITS HERE

dim egret
#

Anymore streams or js jt over until Toronto??

daring pier
#

i didn’t manage to get hanzo today ;-;

daring pier
worldly wolf
#

Will this channel get shut down after the overwatch league ends?

dim egret
#

No because overwatch esports woukdent end completely after owl

heavy cliff
#

k

meager onyx
#

Still contenders, CAH, collegiate, etc

vale cobalt
#

we talk about game balance, contenders, open division, team tweets and game director tweets

#

like its all in one place

#

just cuz owl is gone doesnt mean its all over for this channel

#

this is the only place in this whole server i talk

#

i talk in the game advice too but mostly here

daring pier
#

ngl i’ll miss owl but like

#

it was so poorly run

vale cobalt
#

i wont miss it

#

hype will be always there

#

3rd party investor will create a new league with city team and everything will be solved

#

it would be cool to go to some offline matches and watch live u know

#

i want the pro league to based in eu

#

this state to state bullshit doesnt work

#

ppl dont pay for tickets no money gained

daring pier
#

i want a british only one

vale cobalt
#

thats why the have no

#

profit

daring pier
#

luton vs conventry LETS GOOO

daring pier
#

i’m sorry but

#

if you buy owl tickets

#

you are a virgin

vale cobalt
#

?

#

its good for them

#

they gain money and stay alive

#

its not hard to understand buddy

daring pier
#

they’re so poorly ran now

vale cobalt
#

cuz theres no tickets sold no jerseys sold

daring pier
#

apart from funding the teams

vale cobalt
#

they advertise jerseys every stream

#

cuz they need money

daring pier
#

there’s no benefit to going sadly

heavy cliff
#

hmm

#

jerseys

#

hmm

#

ok gimme a second

daring pier
#

same as football kits

vale cobalt
#

they are

#

unique

#

:p

daring pier
#

they all follow the same template

#

plain shirt with name in a strip with decal in the back

#

it’s a real shame

#

if they had full freedom they could make some genuinely cool stuff that could sell really well

meager onyx
#

Did you see the Jerseys?

daring pier
#

this years?

meager onyx
#

Yeah

daring pier
#

yeah

meager onyx
#

Then you know it's not some solid color shit

daring pier
#

i didn’t say that

#

but they’re all the same template

meager onyx
#

Well they have to have the name of the team probably in the same place as everyone else's

#

and the name

#

But they have gotten way more creative than all of the other years

daring pier
#

really limits it

meager onyx
#

Kinda

#

But you're left with 80% of the shirt to do mostly w/e

daring pier
#

true

#

i genuinely think i could make a better shirt sadly

meager onyx
#

Probably

daring pier
#

in fact

#

i’ll make a moc up

meager onyx
#

Half the shirts are ass

#

Like dynasty

daring pier
#

facts

rugged quest
#

there just isnt much interest in owl merch in 2023

daring pier
#

they can be centred, on the sleeve, on the chest, sometimes not even on the kit

rugged quest
daring pier
#

lemme send u some

heavy cliff
#

Ok i've made my tier list

#

I will actually throw hands to defend the spark shrit

#

fight me

vale cobalt
#

OUTLAWS TOP BRO

#

WDYM

#

MID

meager onyx
#

Outlaws too plain

#

Like

#

Good green lines man

daring pier
#

outlaws is fire ngl

meager onyx
#

Also they ranked dynasty higher than last so idk how trustworthy that list is

#

Lol

vale cobalt
vale cobalt
heavy cliff
heavy cliff
meager onyx
#

Shirt comfort tierlist?

heavy cliff
#

No

uncut drum
#

WTF ARE YOU ON

meager onyx
#

Bc dynasty ugly af

heavy cliff
#

The tier that one is in is "if i was home alone i could wear it"

hasty hound
#

i kinda like hte titans one

heavy cliff
#

So i wouldnt go out in public with i

#

BUT

hasty hound
#

cool mountain

heavy cliff
meager onyx
#

Titans is good

heavy cliff
#

Yeah i just think the mountains look weird

meager onyx
#

Same with paris and justice

#

Not top tier but def not last

heavy cliff
#

They're in order in their respective tiers btw

#

PAris is the worst also

daring pier
#

sadly shanghai’s is ass

heavy cliff
#

its just shit

daring pier
#

💔💔

meager onyx
#

Cooler than dynasty

#

and dragons

#

by a mile

heavy cliff
#

if you look at the outlaws shirt i do agree it was a bit too harsh of me to put it there, but paris

#

i can change my opinions

#

if you give me a valid reason

#

thats agreeable

#

but not for the paris shirt

#

or for the spark and mayhem shirt

meager onyx
#

spark mayhem are very good

heavy cliff
#

spark is my favorite it just looks so cool

#

and if you are against wearing pink tf is wrong with u

meager onyx
#

Wish the details on spark were darker so I could see it better without being 2 inches from the shirt

daring pier
#

spark just wins just cuz of the colours

#

they’re too nice

heavy cliff
#

Exactly

#

Nyxl had grey on their shirt

#

i dont wanna wear grey

#

As my main colour

#

Imagine how insane i look when out of every shirt i could use, and every coolour i have, i chose grey

#

HUGE no no

#

also what were chengdu cooking with that shirt

#

Brother

#

How is that even possible

#

How did you convince someone to manufacture that

#

good lord

vale cobalt
heavy cliff
#

me like purple

daring pier
#

i love defiants

vale cobalt
#

HAHAAHAHAHAHA

heavy cliff
#

ah yeah i saw thi

daring pier
#

squeeze

vale cobalt
#

GUXUEEEEE

heavy cliff
#

I mean listen

#

If i had the chance

vale cobalt
heavy cliff
#

I too

#

Would

#

Maybe

#

perhaps

vale cobalt
#

guxue is

#

a woman anyway

heavy cliff
#

Do it too

#

LMAO

#

Yeah yeah

#

Guxue just jealous

vale cobalt
#

guxue is bi

heavy cliff
#

thats it

vale cobalt
#

im sureeee

heavy cliff
#

oh no

#

here he comes

vale cobalt
weary talon
#

I heard guxue

heavy cliff
#

I see guxue is my goat typing

vale cobalt
#

he fed bad

#

on circuit ngl

weary talon
#

Its not because

heavy cliff
#

Ok

#

can we just talk about

#

the balls it takes to do that

weary talon
#

He cosplayed as a cute woman that he’s a woman

heavy cliff
#

Just look at hadi

#

Without the context of him being profesional video game man

little echo
#

hadi rein is a plat player who comms

#

tbh

heavy cliff
#

He looks like he could either be the nices dad ever, or he's an evil mafia guy

#

50/50

vale cobalt
#

get over it

#

lool

heavy cliff
#

and i wouldnt risk it

weary talon
#

I didn’t understand hadi yesterday

vale cobalt
#

hadi fed so bad

little echo
#

londone is not getting out of groups

#

unfortunately

weary talon
#

Why did he wait several times to shatter until he was like 50hp

vale cobalt
#

london shold've deserved potg

#

guy solo carried

heavy cliff
vale cobalt
#

all game

heavy cliff
#

wha

vale cobalt
hasty hound
#

the tp plays insane

little echo
heavy cliff
#

I refuse to believe that

#

Where

weary talon
#

Here

vale cobalt
#

landon or backbone deserved potg

#

admiral fed

#

hadi fed

#

sparkr only stood and shot

#

london kept him alive

#

backbone with 5head tps

#

its one of them

#

not sparkr

#

i get the fact that he did dmg but like london and sym enabled him to do it

#

they created space

#

backbone did tp go and back

#

to create space and attention

vale cobalt
weary talon
#

London is gonna lose against boston and then lose against spark and then it’ll be bye bye

vale cobalt
#

maybe

#

not sure

weary talon
#

They lose to boston for sure

heavy cliff
#

man

#

im done tryna understand the formats

#

im just gonna hope if a team wins every match they win the whole thing

#

but i guess that also might not work out

weary talon
#

You can win two games then lose one in the semis and then not make it to grand finals

#

Who designed this garbanzo

vale cobalt
#

they want you to accept it as it is