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I do not like the illari. Please play soljorn.... defiant please
Spectra and hydron are cool and all, but tbh I think Lenny clears them
ults after 3 ppl dies
hydron is useless no way....
This would be more accurate if tornado didn't suck balls and have to panic sign two apac players
who woulda seen that coming...
i agree
Pls just nerf window
admiral would be getting screamed at if london wasnt clutching every fight
hurricanes are better than tornado any ways
Ist specta usually on the soj or genji?
If hurricane had anyone other than kellex Ripa we would have seen them pop off in owl far earlier
why are they not adapting

they are playing with their food
@uncut drum maximo is cooking
Owl teams have a habit of doing that
True
Atl also did it
yeah i saw
@epsilon_ow @LittleKnightG I’m just from Toronto so I support my home’s team LOL I don’t have a whole ass account dedicated to them 😭
They didnt practice it
old owl would play whatever now if theu didnt scrim it they wont do it
eh I mean
It legit all or nothing lol
that team also had fucking ddannedd
who is not that guy
so they had a ton of holes individually
It must have felt like turbo shit to win contenders like 4 times straight and then be the only one on the team not promoted to owl lmaoo
Poor danned
Even half retired s4 linkzr clears hybrid by a mile
s3 linkzr was way worse than s4 linkzr
finally they're doing something
half retired linkzr cleared 2020 linkzr
2020 linkzr was giga depressed tho
I believe
full hold time
2020 was weird
3 mins
here comes the hold
True I forgot about oge
oge heard the meta was orisa and started tying a noose
had to be talked down by mirror
Shaz biggoose and Kevin on da ping plus oge sounds diabolical levels of bad tbh
Understandable
massive shatter
True I forgot the hype around his face reveal back then
WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER 🇺🇸 🦅
so about that...
Why did space have such a hard downfall. Did he want to dip out of the spotlight or did that one thing derail his career?
whose kevs?
he had that incident
space unironically started watching andrew tate videos and shit
he’s an andrew tate manosphere type guy now
ew
which is extremely sad
also last year was all reiner who looked great
I figured it was that but I also never really saw much talk around it after the first time and it being "debunked" or whatever
Debunked as in he didn't know, not he didn't do it 💀
Was just sadge because he was one of the bigger streamer presences too
wow cap
he's there, kinda
Remove bastion nade. Remove it from his kit. He does not need that ability
Who?
Nah he’s not
Kai or hydron?
the nade is fun
This game is so hard to pay attention to. It feels like one of those one team will not adapt and just look pathetic games

Like you know the games where one team is on a wonky comp and just gets steamrolled despite being far better than that
good push
Chengdu used to have moments like that a lot
ok now full hold time...
Where they would just throw via team comp
In the kill feed dying
Good hold
i think its cause hydron's not making big plays so the caster's aren't talking about him
Holy that fight was soo long I thought I was watching goats
He ain’t doing shit
so it doesn't feel like he's here
It's because he had a illari as a support
Heesang bastion clears all
It feels like every hero hydron plays he been diff on
When did they swap him in?
COME ON DEFIANT I NEED YOU
That shatter…
if not
Sirmajed carry
Col huge
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
No touchers ?
cringe hero wins
WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER 🇺🇸 🦅

london chokefire 🙏
bridge was mei walled

i see
Sirmajed spoke about her ult and he said that you just use it whenever you have it even if it doesn’t get any kills. Like a pulse bomb, don’t hold on to it. That’s why a lot of the ult doesn’t get kills.
What
Neither of the teams are American teams
Smoking that symm pack
It’s Canadian and English
king hydron annexed canada
WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER 🇺🇸 🦅
It's a hydron quote
I remember seeing that spam in World Cup. Thought it was hilarious
Call me asparagus
GOD DID
ig, i've just seen it used to like make space too even it doesn't get a kill so i kinda wanted to see more, ig strategic use of it from and owl player
Asparagus
Yeah he said it still gives value even without a kill. And hey, if a pro support player thinks that’s the best way to use the ult than I guess they’re right
i guess so
The full clip that includes him reversing full speed onto that ledge makes me laugh every time
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why are they so determined to not play opener
landon gets so many windows
I am convinced opener got into owl the first time just so justice could say they had opener and closer on support
lmao
Why was ojee ultraviolet so overrated for so long, why did it take 2 years of mid for people to realize that
Imo hadi is getting a bit carried by supps
toronto was shit with uv and ojee wdym
I know I mean people still thought uv ojee was good despite them doing air for 2 years
ig they were just hyped from contenders
i dont remeber ojee doing anything impressive at all
Lol chatters don’t get the game
Tornado was the best all Western team of all time for a while so it makes sense they got rated highly but like, other than coluge and Reiner and hydron the rest all kind of did nothing in owl
Speedily and s9mm deserved better 😭
False sucked in owl
Wub too
Echo player when echo isn't relevant moment
😭
Speedily was supposed to be him, and then joined owl when none of his heroes were meta

Another person who shouldn't have been booted imo is lep
Ojee is the same tier as him
lep better than ojee (im a bit biased)
Gibraltar map 5
Fits deserved better than to retire in off role jail like fleta
Teru was at least serviceable in his off role

But alphayi flora deadlifted that team
I cannot be the only one that thinks this series is super boring right?
there's no hype like last game
london keepin my attention span awake
this game should feel more hyped but this is just sleeper
It should feel more hype but somehow crimzo faith punk Lenny and heesang are better at adapting
Than colhuge and the gang
Landon Spitfire
landon is the backbone of this team
Crazy because they have nohill as a assistant coach
very funny origonal joke
boring
landon stat farming
One sided
Thanks for the helpful information
yeah spitfire really started moving when landon joined
welp
I think it's more so bc defiant don't have a shield he's getting soo mich free extra damage
this is prob ur last map and ur goin for these shitty hydron flanks
they already have cp
ggs
idk what hes doin
Why did they pick this map
:[ toronto
this aged well
It did
omg
the stagger
how do u even play against london
theyre literally counterplaying everything

hydron being a goober icl
majed PLS
Sirmadead first every fight
ok hadi also does some trolling
at this point does it even matter if hes trolling
Man... I'm just hurt
wtf is happening
Didn't defiant win before from playing soljorn against london?
they deny the checkpoint
i dont think so
omg
sad

GG
reminder to never count on defiant for anything

proud of my boys

lol
defiant were so bad
majed threw so badf
well
fr
…
fr
I thought defiant had that in the bag
I just do not like illari as support for their comp. I know majed is the best. But it's not enough bruh
I was proven wrong
we said it as a joke we didnt think it would be reality
i doubt dallas go far
I blame Jake for voting defiant
Has London Beat Florida or Houston or Atlanta this year or just map fives? Genuinely asking

just 5's
I don't think so
London about beat houston in a map 5
they got map 5 with outlaw and they really choked it
i wanna see them against mayhem
i need a refresher on how good they are
yeah houston just clutched
LET'S GO LONDON
Play offs start next weekend?
What are the teams in the playoffs then
So they've beat every single mid team in the league now, we just need them to beat all 3 top teams too.
Dallas Spark Infernal Mayhem Outlaws Reign Boston London
Easy task surely
yeah the 28th
Ok thanks
I don't think London can beat mayhem or reign
london would be put on fraudwatch if they didnt have the best western supports in the league btw wanted to out that out there
I thought it was just 6 teams
Tho
STOP SINGING IT
3 apac 5 west
So 2 weekends?
next week thursday mhm
Cool
EU>NA once again proven
wrong sign
I'm mad they didn't play soljorn. Alot of this could have been easier
its not even sojourn
The compliment is cool but at the same time there's like 5 whole western supports the competition is renko luke uv rupal rackattack ojee crimzo
its the stupid orisa illari
@LittleKnightG @TorontoDefiant Okay buddy I’m gonna give you the benefit of the doubt cause you’re probably 12 and you think they know you (they don’t) but good luck with that
He is pissed
why can
can't we just accept that london played pretty well and knew how to play a comp not everyone is playing (rein) :3
pretty well is an understatement
they broke them
I mean beating mid teams is playing pretty well, if they had beaten Houston or Atlanta all the way I'd say its an understatement
Jake last how
he curses all the teams he votes for
damn
Not discounting London at all but respectably, Defiant, Titans, Justice, Shock, Valiant, Vegas, Glads, Valiant, are their most recent wins. They lost against real teams so I'm kind of worried getting too hyped on them because realistically that's an ez schedule
tbf the SMM talked shit like months ago
I will not lie I forgot chipsas brother was their head coach lmao
lol
take compliment
yeah
Who do you think is picking London
Let me Google that
How many teams are going to Toronto
Geography wise it is Boston
8
8 this year
How 8
It was 12 last year
I only see 3 teams in the brackets
Fuel, spitfire, and uhh
Ok 2 I see
Who are the other 6
What is this weird ass format
This picking is weird
every team drafts each other
Still weitd
I'm so happy mayhem is far away from us
@vale cobalt as scared as I am of mayhem... I think I will enjoy watching them destroy houston
As a spark fan... at least they made it to playoffs
I think they can maybe beat the spitfire, but they're not beating the reign and the uprising
That's gunna be a really good match though
yeah
the way they drafted it was really stupid
HOW did they make this bracket
they "drafted" teams
If I had spitfire in Houston and mayhem bracket I would sleep easy
london got 3rd pick for opposite bracket 💀
simply no way the two worst teams get to play eachother
Florida fan currently freaking out
wait isnt feul and infernal both in the east region..?
Yes
we clear
Apac
oh youre saying apac teams should play na teams
Spitfire Houston aren’t playing
We just saw Boston vs London
there'd be a leftover team for na but still
Like why tf
gandolf trippin rn
he put the confident face on when he know they're gonna get smoked
why did they make fuel vs infernal
zzzzzzzzzzzz
do fuel vs outlaws infernal vs london or someshit
Fr
the ONLY unique match is spark vs atlanta
how did they fuck this up
HOW
????????????
That gonna be so one sided
They had time yet they rush the formate
I could make this format in 10 sec
"It won't be easy, but I can make it easy" gigachad
and it would be better
Kariv the legend
was not expecting that accent
waht Tazmo's
yeah
Is it still Double Elimination for all teams?
Ok hes Scottish thats what i thought
yes
yeah
How is Infernal first seed
I'm so lost
Spark have the better average knockout placement
Infernal didn't even make Top 2 in their Bracket for Summer Stage lmfao
I tweeted at Sean not going to get a reply but hope he sees how stupid he is
The Spark somehow as the BEST TEAM IN APAC, are facing the #1 Seed NA team
That is a joke
just saw the bracket
what the fuck are they cooking
what's wrong with a double elim bracket
#1 team vs #1 team
@sean_mmills what do explain how your seeding works as how is spark not first seed. Your own desk though spark first .infernal thought spark were first like wtf are you doing what decisions are you making like fucking hell this is getting repetitive. @leakmafia_OW can you explain
Semi Finals aren't Double Elim either wtf
Re tweet this to hell
@vale cobalt u ready to fight mayhem?
The fact that Toronto ain’t even making it to their own playoffs
toronto are more dissappointing than shock
Woah now
Don't think you can disappoint harder than a one man team with proper on it
Don't worry. Kevsuter is going to end up getting picked up by a team in playoffs
i think everyteam except like justice and titans and those who made playoffs were dissappointing
(Jk)
glads tank being on a mixed roster was a way bigger toll than it should have been
they didnt get it figured out until they had to play against the good teams
that being boston
and even then they werent guaranteed to make playins
Shock had high expectation but something that looks that good was bound to explode blame M8Ball
proper really set the bar too high for himself
Glads should have gotten a dps to replace kai
Kai was mid to below mid all season for them
perhaps but yaki had some REALLY hard throws with his sombra
yea
Okay yeah. Nothing is wrong with yaki
I have yaki at the same caliber of tracer genji as striker and proper fr
nothing? im not too sure about that my man
Look at yaki gameplay.
I know yaki is op just from how I've seen him play against my team and against proper
He's really good
And I know it was kai lacking on dps holding glads back because his soljorn skill and play making output severely slowed down later into the season last year for atl.
obv kai wasnt a help but yaki being locked to the sombra wasnt helping either
Very true.
But image if glads had a another dps over kai to play the sombra and yaki on tracer
They would have been strong
you pick yaki over kevster on tracer?
This bracket is so ass
That's a bit rough. Tbh I think kevster would be a better hitscan for yaki tracer as a duo
How is spark not first seed
2 flex dps issue
dps*
I think it’s just the meta
True. But I could see them definitely beating some of the other teams they struggled against eairler and through the season
Like no hitscans were good so u couldn’t play kai
they should have DEF beat some teams they lost to
but most of that is marvel not being able to effectively communicate
Exactly. And if they had role overlap with kevster yaki. It still would have worked in the long run after figuring out what dynamic works best for them both
im not talking about yaki kev?
Wait huh?
they werent perfect but also not the main issue
^
also didnt something happen with lastro
so they got kal
I had typed that up mostly before you commented it
fair enough
Kal was a support though right??
yea
Honestly. I don't think they needed another support.
shock couldnt find a good backline after violet left
they picked up vindaim and he flopped
then they grabbed the vegas player and renko
Losing violet will take a toll but vindaim Finn bad
I understand that Illiari was a new support. But I don't feel like she's a must pick. They could have stuck with funny astro and lastro and it just not play kai. Run the sombra tracer. Or the tracer and echo or tracer soljorn. Because it would ahwv worked
Yeah I agree
he is otp her and lucio would get so much more value
Kai isn't good enough to be on a two dps team imo
I agree
kai is like that sniper pick who doesnt even a top tier sniper
Covering everything so Kai can just play his good heroes and shine
But when he's the primary option he fails
Pelican was soooo good too
But kai man
He let me down after their close match with glads that one tournament
We've had so many insane new dps players since s4, pelican, shy, proper, stalker, flora, alphayi, viper merit checkmate. It is really cool to see the new players be better or on par with all time goats
It just feels like we've had a ton of "prodigy" level talents in a row, pelican, shy, proper, merit, stalker
true
Merit is happy level imo
i feel like 0 ppl care about who is on mayhem except someone
Happy and Leave having career years was also fun too we love that for them
Yeah. Mayhem is a scary team fr
I honestly fear them more than I fear london
Thats y atl picked them to be on a separate bracket
atlanta have the easiest time rn
boston beat london once im sure they can do it again
then its just atlanta vs boston
Boston are the weakest of the top 4 imo
Which is wild to say given the roster
Is all legends

theres nothing particularly special about them other than them being decorated veterans
decay and birdring really arent too good compared to the other dps combos from other teams
Birdring is still so fucking good tho I love birdring, he's such a sleeper goat dps
I just don't think decay birdring are strong enough on their own 😭
i feel like its a potential thing he CAN be really good but he just isnt poppin off
thats kind of their whole roster
Birdring sojourn yesterday was crazy
london went from 2-8 TO 8-9
LONDON TO THE MOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!!!
0:00 - Intro
0:29 - Return to Rush
1:23 - 9000 IQ Plays
2:43 - Forcing Rush on Gibraltar
4:33 - The Shock's Counter Strat
5:18 - Creating Chaos
6:22 - Beware of Proper
7:39 - The Spitfire's Plans
#overwatch2 #overwatch
love how hype the casters are
Shock also had the downfall this year is you could only confidently say one player on their team was better than most or if not all other players in their role
besides proper there were a large portion of players better than every shock player in each role
like s5 shock had proper/viol2t/coluge who all had very strong arguments for being near the top of their role
this year just proper
and by coluge I mean for his off tanks
sig/dva
his monkey was mid
he was yea
It pains me that spitfire are outperforming the team cc no hill reunion roster and the wheats Redbird reunion roster
yall WHAT is this playoff bracket
I’ve confirmed directly with a source in the Overwatch League that playoff games WILL be played on the Sept. 7 Overwatch 2 patch, aka the Zarya patch. #OWL2023
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Sept. 28th - Oct. 2nd


(before anyone says it, yes I have accepted the reality we're kinda fucked in the playoffs)
We gotta beat Boston and Atlanta to get to the finals
Basically a death sentence
Hangzhou spark will probably be the easiest match for us
Who designed this
So
Theres no double elims brackets if you lose in semis you’re done for and spark got fucked over for the third time in a playoff now
It could’ve been this
Hot take spark gonna beat atlanta
Spark is just being tortured
I feel like they made this brackets in a way that leads to Atlanta reign Vs florida mayhem
not mayhem, mayhem is other bracket
It's London Boston Atlanta
But still, they're gonna struggle to get through
You've got 2 teams of raw skill and 1 team so unique you need to train specifically against their comp
Honestly I'd love to see London pull out a new modifications of the current comp that benefits from the new patch
mayhem?
that's what they always do
it never used to be sym bastion on their rush
it was always like soj mei
Assuming mayhem is the better out of fuel infernal and outlaws
Because you already know they lose to reign and its winnable against london and boston
Microsoft paint moment
Spitfire winning the whole thing btw
Still no word on what patch there playing on
Ljg is such a bro
Also lip going for flanks as bastion is so entertaining they use Lw flower and lip drops at the backline
no need to be scared we will win anyway
Also this is awesome
essy win
Where’s outlaws ot?
Boom
fixed it (sorta)
i could've switched boston and london
but idk
bc Spark vvs boston seems like it'd be a fun game
Prob switch Boston and London
yeah
Good bracket tho
I put infernal against altanta because they dont even deserve to be here
10 times better
than seal miller aka fraud's bracket
that guy is too busy running a marathon
theres no fkn way they made this
Crazy how you can come up with a better bracket then a billion dollar esports company
whats the bracket looking like rn?
like ass
houston vs. mayhem
why does a two top 3 team face each other so early?
why are the 2 playin teams playing eachother first LMAOO!!
ur bracket is so good, sean needs to hire you
paid
fr
sean miller is such a dog
Here since i cant post pics ill made it a tweet
this is what i think of the playoffs
Infernal even in the loosers bracket have to face houston or florida
ill thoroughly enjoy every second of it
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
Having them face of this early isnt good
give mayhem fuel or boston
dunno man
oh give infernal
to mayhem
problem solved
2 playins vs. 2 playoffs teams
am i wrong @full lichen
why isnt this the bracket layout
lol
the loser bracket runs have always been the best bit of playoffs
not sure if i misundestood but playoffs are on the latest patch
why are infernal 1st seed apac...?
that makes no sense
less wr less maps won less map diff
oh it hasn't even countered summer yet
ikr
100% wr
more wins
more everything
more diff
like XD
Infernal are gonna get curb stomped the first 2 rounds, deserved, dynasty would've gone further probs, since void can play zarya.
As i said
infernal dont even belong in the playoffs
barely belong in play ins
nah infernal deserve it
they were the best apac team for the entire year up until they summer knockouts
Sean miller has an anti Chinese narrative atp
Spark done been getting fucked over in playoffs for the third time now
ok guys the thing i dont get it is
how the fck is two play-ins teams play with each other and how tf is two play-offs play with each other at the very beginning and how tf is spark not first seed?
Anymore streams or js jt over until Toronto??
i didn’t manage to get hanzo today ;-;
i think it’s done till toronto
Will this channel get shut down after the overwatch league ends?
No because overwatch esports woukdent end completely after owl
k
Still contenders, CAH, collegiate, etc
no it wont
we talk about game balance, contenders, open division, team tweets and game director tweets
like its all in one place
just cuz owl is gone doesnt mean its all over for this channel
this is the only place in this whole server i talk
i talk in the game advice too but mostly here
i wont miss it
hype will be always there
3rd party investor will create a new league with city team and everything will be solved
it would be cool to go to some offline matches and watch live u know
i want the pro league to based in eu
this state to state bullshit doesnt work
ppl dont pay for tickets no money gained
i want a british only one
luton vs conventry LETS GOOO
?
its good for them
they gain money and stay alive
its not hard to understand buddy
they’re so poorly ran now
cuz theres no tickets sold no jerseys sold
apart from funding the teams
there’s no benefit to going sadly
if the jerseys were a bit more unique they’d sell more
same as football kits
they all follow the same template
plain shirt with name in a strip with decal in the back
it’s a real shame
if they had full freedom they could make some genuinely cool stuff that could sell really well
Did you see the Jerseys?
this years?
Yeah
yeah
Then you know it's not some solid color shit
Well they have to have the name of the team probably in the same place as everyone else's
and the name
But they have gotten way more creative than all of the other years
that’s a shame imo
really limits it
Probably
facts
football kits have the name and logo in the same spot aswell its not as limiting as you make it out to be
there just isnt much interest in owl merch in 2023
no they don’t
they can be centred, on the sleeve, on the chest, sometimes not even on the kit
every football kit ive ever seen has the logo on left pec and name in upperback
lemme send u some
Ok i've made my tier list
I will actually throw hands to defend the spark shrit
fight me
outlaws is fire ngl
see this person knows
get gud
Ok i actually could see it, im rethinking this one
Dynasty looks like it'd be a confortable shirt just look at the name of the tiers
Shirt comfort tierlist?
No
HOW IS THE GLADS ONE THAT HIGH
WTF ARE YOU ON
Bc dynasty ugly af
The tier that one is in is "if i was home alone i could wear it"
i kinda like hte titans one
cool mountain
I like purple
Titans is good
Yeah i just think the mountains look weird
sadly shanghai’s is ass
its just shit
💔💔
if you look at the outlaws shirt i do agree it was a bit too harsh of me to put it there, but paris
i can change my opinions
if you give me a valid reason
thats agreeable
but not for the paris shirt
or for the spark and mayhem shirt
spark mayhem are very good
spark is my favorite it just looks so cool
and if you are against wearing pink tf is wrong with u
Wish the details on spark were darker so I could see it better without being 2 inches from the shirt
yeah that
Exactly
Nyxl had grey on their shirt
i dont wanna wear grey
As my main colour
Imagine how insane i look when out of every shirt i could use, and every coolour i have, i chose grey
HUGE no no
also what were chengdu cooking with that shirt
Brother
How is that even possible
How did you convince someone to manufacture that
good lord
LOOL
me like purple
i love defiants
ah yeah i saw thi
squeeze
GUXUEEEEE
im listening
guxue is bi
thats it
im sureeee
crazy how hadi gets all the credit but all he does is feed while backbone and landon play out of the minds
I heard guxue
I see guxue is my goat typing
so fkn true
he fed bad
on circuit ngl
He cosplayed as a cute woman that he’s a woman
He looks like he could either be the nices dad ever, or he's an evil mafia guy
50/50
its a jokeeeeeeee
get over it
lool
lol
and i wouldnt risk it
I didn’t understand hadi yesterday
hadi fed so bad
Why did he wait several times to shatter until he was like 50hp
wai
all game
wha
sadly
backbone sym is nuts
the tp plays insane
playoff format is 2 groups of 4 then top 2 in each group advance
yes
landon or backbone deserved potg
admiral fed
hadi fed
sparkr only stood and shot
london kept him alive
backbone with 5head tps
its one of them
not sparkr
i get the fact that he did dmg but like london and sym enabled him to do it
they created space
backbone did tp go and back
to create space and attention
cringe format
London is gonna lose against boston and then lose against spark and then it’ll be bye bye
They lose to boston for sure
man
im done tryna understand the formats
im just gonna hope if a team wins every match they win the whole thing
but i guess that also might not work out
You can win two games then lose one in the semis and then not make it to grand finals
Who designed this garbanzo
its not made to understand
they want you to accept it as it is
