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heavy cliff
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Ok

weary talon
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Huh

heavy cliff
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hmm

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I aint too sure about this

heavy scroll
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Hmm

heavy cliff
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its dive i guess?

weary talon
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This is way too wacky

heavy cliff
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since its ana lucio genji

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ill let them cook

weary talon
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The un cancellable payload animations have led to some wacky moments before

little echo
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but it does in fact draw

little echo
weary talon
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I think there’s a clip on eich third where the cart goes through the wall

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^

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Yeah

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Super

little echo
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that was unintentional because that sort of thing is like

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stupid hard to find in playtests

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so I believe it's fixed

heavy cliff
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hold up

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where is crimzo

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where does he hit these sleeps from

heavy scroll
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Taken out early

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Oh idk

heavy cliff
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he actually lets his sleep darts phase through walls

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he wasnt even there

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he was 2 walls away

heavy scroll
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Hydron out flanking

heavy cliff
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nanoblade

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just for us

heavy scroll
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Everytime i look at sugar he has blade

heavy cliff
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YEE

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get em sugar free

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Faith?

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i do not like this

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not one big

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t

dreamy cave
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Titans gotta be throwing

heavy scroll
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GET OFF DOOM

dreamy cave
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Nobody's getting breadsticks for this dogshit

heavy cliff
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if sugarfree got a nano at the end

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we could've wión that fight

dreamy cave
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0-10

heavy scroll
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HEESANG????

dreamy cave
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0-10?!?!?!?!

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I want to see the stat card

heavy cliff
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0-10 is crazy

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nah

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Listen

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a map is a map

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its in the past now

dreamy cave
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That's the type of shit that's in my ranked games

heavy cliff
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ist a new map

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in dorado

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We have got this in the bag

dreamy cave
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Titans looking like they shit the bed man

heavy cliff
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a good blade is a lenny blade

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Listen they just reset

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go to the next map

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forget it

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easy win

vale cobalt
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TITANSTIME

nova urchin
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Heesang throwing

dreamy cave
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Heesang throwing like a grandmasters player tring to derank

vale cobalt
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lol

uncut drum
vale cobalt
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30 DAY CONTRACT

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wtf

dreamy cave
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He got paid at least ig

heavy cliff
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THANK GOD

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he doesnt have to be related to vegas anymore

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thats greatfor him

vale cobalt
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fr

heavy cliff
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faith?

vale cobalt
heavy cliff
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is the faith zen normal=

vale cobalt
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my guy carried shitty vegas

heavy cliff
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Lmao the trades

stray quarry
heavy cliff
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how did t hey not win that?

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man

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this is sad

viral skiff
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Still sad my Spitfire beating Atlanta fantasy has been crushed lol

heavy cliff
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Phew

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that was very nice from heesang

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lenny is just BUILT DIFFERENT

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HOLY

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He does not want to loose the fight for canada again

viral skiff
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lenny?

vale cobalt
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FULL MAP

heavy cliff
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oh wow

weary talon
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I’ll be real playing in owl doesnt seem fun at all

viral skiff
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they only loosing in the new maps

heavy cliff
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gotta say, uv's nanos on spectra not getting nearly as much value as crimzo

heavy cliff
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doesnt have to be fun

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but its probably enjoyable some times

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practice seems brutal though

viral skiff
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as a passtime it should be fun but they turned it into bankkk

heavy cliff
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better than like 90% of jobs out there

viral skiff
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-ish

heavy cliff
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yeah like you dont just get someone to spend 10 hours a day practicing something

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for free

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thats just stupididty

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hydron diffed

viral skiff
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hydron just needs to avoid heesang

vale cobalt
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:))

viral skiff
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heesang woulda hit that

heavy cliff
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and learn the strats too

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preparation too

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for different teams

vale cobalt
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but

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10 h of thinking about the game

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u do it on comp

heavy cliff
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owl players cant just stop either

vale cobalt
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too

vale cobalt
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have off days

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lolz

heavy cliff
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Yeah ik

viral skiff
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NO 10 HOURS STRAIGHT

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ranked players do tho lol

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?

heavy cliff
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how

uncut drum
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what happened to the titans

vale cobalt
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its tough

vale cobalt
heavy cliff
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wow

uncut drum
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how

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it was -02

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0-2

heavy cliff
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Oh no come on

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no

uncut drum
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how do you mess that up

vale cobalt
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now its about to be 3-2

heavy cliff
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its not over ye

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Listen we need to believe

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have faith

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get it

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eheh

vale cobalt
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:))

viral skiff
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

heavy cliff
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Slept on ur own pulse is BRUTAL

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hydron fucks

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ok

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hear me out

heavy scroll
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sigh

heavy cliff
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man im done

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dont hear me out

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gg

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i tried too hard i need sleep

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just end my suffering

heavy scroll
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I thought titans finally had it

heavy cliff
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what do you even do against that

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Hydron doesnt miss

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the balls sugarfree has

viral skiff
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ggs

heavy cliff
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to duel hydron

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yee

viral skiff
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punk dying is over

fast tusk
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lets gooo

uncut drum
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HOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

heavy cliff
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ggs

uncut drum
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YOU HAD THAT IN THE BAD

fast tusk
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yeahhhh

uncut drum
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BAG

meager onyx
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reverse sweep

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wowowowowow

heavy scroll
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siiiiiiiiiiiggggghhhhhh

dreamy cave
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Smh

viral skiff
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hydron better than lip

heavy cliff
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dont even

karmic charm
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spitfire and titans fighting for who can choke harder 🔥

heavy cliff
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just nah

heavy cliff
viral skiff
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spitfire didnt choke?

karmic charm
karmic charm
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we choked fp AND push lol

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fp shouldve been a 3-0 for us

viral skiff
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oh yeah lol in overtime

karmic charm
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we choked it hard

heavy cliff
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ngl for me

karmic charm
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and then we lost push in ot after having a p big lead

heavy cliff
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faith potm

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fight me

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what a gam

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well gn everyone else thats in europe and gonna sleep with me

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I DIDNT MEAN IT LIKE

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Nvm

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gn

vale cobalt
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bro

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XD

heavy scroll
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Thats a tall task

viral skiff
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GGS WP

balmy wolf
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Peak callouts

icy cedar
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Does this have tokens at the same time as the OWL video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqSUj0w1U-Q

A joint program of Overwatch 2 and the Overwatch League, Calling All Heroes' mission is to build an inclusive game and competitive environment for everyone.

CAH will support the Challengers Series, which will run alongside Path to Pro in the 2023-24 season as an additional competitive avenue within Overwatch 2 for marginalized genders.

👉 Head ...

▶ Play video
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It says Connected at the bottom

balmy wolf
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Idk someone told me you don’t get double

icy cedar
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Which is messing me up so much

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Awe

balmy wolf
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Lol

icy cedar
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Well if OWL ends maybe it continues giving you tokens?

balmy wolf
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Idk it use to give me tokens a couple of months ago

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Idk about now

meager onyx
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Does that give tokens?

vale cobalt
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bro

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hydron is so toxic

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heesang didnt play good today but

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like

icy cedar
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The OWL YT vid def give tokens

sullen bane
vale cobalt
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he was so good

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on tracer

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all season

icy cedar
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But idk if Calling all Heroes does

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It gives skins on twitch tho

balmy wolf
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Hydron is mid

vale cobalt
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hydron called heesang the inferior player

balmy wolf
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Idk why he’s getting too hyped

sullen bane
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Honestly Titans needs some work before hitting even play offs if ever

vale cobalt
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TOO BIG EGO FOR A LITTLE MAN

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calling heesang inferior

balmy wolf
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He was joking obviously but still

vale cobalt
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when heesang carried everygame

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ALONE

meager onyx
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Hydron looks like coluge's younger brother

vale cobalt
balmy wolf
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Lol

vale cobalt
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like heesang fked up ok

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but hes 10 times better

icy cedar
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I like heesang

balmy wolf
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Lol they showed heesang tbagging

vale cobalt
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same

icy cedar
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Currently my favorite player

vale cobalt
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dont forget

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heesang's tracer

balmy wolf
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Tbh I didn’t watch this game at all

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I just got back

icy cedar
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Though I will always be happy to see Pelican

weary talon
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This just proves to me that widow has the best watchability

balmy wolf
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Let’s go pelican

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My west region team

vale cobalt
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BRO

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HYDRON CALLED HIMSLEF

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THE GOAT

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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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uohe h1eh12eh12eh21 eh1j2e

sullen bane
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Honestly my favourite moment was comms like “He’s Canadian” lmao

vale cobalt
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ahahahahahaahaha

sullen bane
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Probably my favourite quotes

vale cobalt
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cringe player

balmy wolf
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Btw since o2 lost, does that mean infernal qualify?

sullen bane
meager onyx
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Yeah

uncut drum
balmy wolf
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I’m sad o2 couldn’t make it but I’m glad my team is back in it

meager onyx
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The east playins format is so stupid

balmy wolf
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Although they need to stop trolling

sullen bane
vale cobalt
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oh i had a 1 good game whole season

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im the goat

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XD

balmy wolf
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Why is the Moira skin 200 coins?

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Not 300?

vale cobalt
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he has been MID-LOW level

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whole 2023

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saying hes the goat

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cringe tbh

sullen bane
vale cobalt
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if hes the goat then who is pelican, happy, lip, stalker

vale cobalt
sullen bane
vale cobalt
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he called himself "the goat" live in a interview

balmy wolf
vale cobalt
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cuz he played good on 1 map whole season

sullen bane
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Kinda rage quit (lmao) after the loss

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But bruh true

vale cobalt
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called heesang the inferior

vale cobalt
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when heesang is 10 times better than him

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lol

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dunno man

sullen bane
vale cobalt
sullen bane
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Widow duel maybe not much

vale cobalt
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its just that he had a bad game

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ppl forget everything before

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and say hes better etc

uncut drum
sullen bane
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Yeah

uncut drum
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something looks wrong

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very wrong

balmy wolf
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What’s hydron compared to pelican or happy

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Nada

vale cobalt
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TITANS

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ARE ON FINALS

sullen bane
vale cobalt
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HAAHHAHAHAAA

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scripted

sullen bane
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Some person on the bracket team really took the Titans loss personal

vale cobalt
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defiant really think they can beat boston

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when decay said

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"its an easy victory for us"

sullen bane
vale cobalt
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let the guy

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dream

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until reality hits him

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we'll see if he can call himself the "goat" again lol

uncut drum
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cause i tweeting saying just that

vale cobalt
vale cobalt
balmy wolf
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I guess calling all heroes gives tokens

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I still see the reward icon

vale cobalt
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u have -7 likes on reddit @uncut drum

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whats up with that

uncut drum
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old one got banned

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also in ksi sever

sullen bane
uncut drum
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server

sullen bane
uncut drum
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and shit happens there

uncut drum
sullen bane
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Oh wait nvm

icy cedar
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Oh wait OWL is over

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Yeah, I think it does give tokens on YT so long you're on the OWL YT channel

vale cobalt
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@uncut drum avast works for mayhem ofc hes gonna put mayhem on the 1th seed lol

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that power ranking is not accurate

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chengdu hunters rank 1 XD

uncut drum
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wtf is this team

vale cobalt
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this sean person thinks we forgot everything and will move on

errant anchor
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Does anyone know who's in the playoffs??

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For east

vale cobalt
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infernal and spark

errant anchor
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Awh I hoped defiant would make it

vale cobalt
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huh

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defiant is west

errant anchor
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Is it??

sullen bane
errant anchor
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Lmao myb

vale cobalt
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💀

errant anchor
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😭😭

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I SWEAR I saw them in the east section on the owl app

vale cobalt
errant anchor
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So for the west, I know that reign and someone else got through but I'm not sure about the playoffs

vale cobalt
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outlaws (the best team full of goated players), reign, mayhem, spark, infernal

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are the ones made it to playoffs so far

sullen bane
errant anchor
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The playoffs or just made it through?

sullen bane
errant anchor
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okok

sullen bane
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For the Play offs

errant anchor
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Sorry for all the questions but how many can qualify 😭

sullen bane
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I’m not gonna bully you to death

errant anchor
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Yeah well I'm used to that after asking too many things 💀

sullen bane
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Honestly I’m hoping Titans can make through at least the Loosing Bracket

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We’re fighting against the Shock again so who knows if we’ve improve or not

errant anchor
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Titans have lost loads of games recently

sullen bane
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But haven’t done too bad on those games

errant anchor
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Defiant has been so mid this season but starting to pull back a bit

errant anchor
sullen bane
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Mainly 2

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I think it’s was a 1 during their 2 Battle for Canada

errant anchor
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I don't look too much at the brackets but who's looking like they'll make it

sullen bane
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Oh wait Titans fights London

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Probably an easy fight but who knows

errant anchor
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When?? Gonna need to watch that one

sullen bane
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Probably next Friday as it’s Game 5

errant anchor
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Niceee I'm gonna watch that one. Who's the better team there?

sullen bane
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Tough choice for me

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Honestly not the greatest at Overwatch logic so bare with me

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But London has a decent team during Boston fight

errant anchor
sullen bane
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Actually maybe not haha honestly

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Titans is gonna be my pick

errant anchor
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I'd agree, they're good rn

sullen bane
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Yeah I want ti say they are good

errant anchor
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You know when the next defiant match is? I'm really eager to see them play

sullen bane
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Just there’s something I can’t figure out on improvement

sullen bane
errant anchor
sullen bane
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I might be wrong but Punk wasn’t looking great during those D.Va plays

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He was great when it came to Control/Payload and seem to work when he play Orisa

errant anchor
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Them*

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I'm actually a really big fan of spectras echo on tor

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And their dive comp in general

timid phoenix
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<@&397922982632226816> crypto scam

molten fiber
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ty

tawdry hamlet
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Thank you upstanding citizen Salutations

timid phoenix
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The opportunity to make 50k from Crypto would have been great, I should've went through with it 😔

slate siren
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Who’s better all time

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Moth or Chiyo

wispy yacht
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chiyo

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better brig

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i think moth is more flexible tho

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he played decent bap and zen before they signed twilight

earnest leaf
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hard to compare the two

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They both played in much different times of owl

sullen berry
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Renk
o_o
w

vale cobalt
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macetotheface is avoided by everyone

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not a good player

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renko is not happy anymore tbh i didnt give a fk

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hes too overrated

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that lucio performance was so garbage

timid phoenix
slate siren
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I’m doing that 256 owl player bracket

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Smurf or Birdring

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Who’s better all time

vale cobalt
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ima hard houston fan but i need to give credit to those who play good

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chiyo and fielder is a greatbackline

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donghak is a fraud

vale cobalt
timid phoenix
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donghak is overhated

vale cobalt
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he is ass

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ball otp

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his monke looked great cuz of the backline who kept him alive everytimehe fkcked up

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this isnt the case for fearless

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my goat fearless plays winton into orisa bastion with no issues cuz he knows WHEN to engage he is a 5head player unlike donghak

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his ram is phenomenal too

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ppl said fearless is otp winton when he played ram more than monke few weeks ago

slate siren
vale cobalt
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ok not more than monke but like he played ram a lot

slate siren
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I feel Smurf is better

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What has Birdring done that Smurf hasn’t

vale cobalt
slate siren
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Oh fuvk this is the hardest one so far in my bracket

vale cobalt
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just pick 1 they're both good players

slate siren
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Smurf it is

earnest leaf
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idc how good anyone is at ram

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that hero is actually easy as fuck

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training wheels hero

slate siren
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Doha or Hotba

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Hmmmm

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Both high tier mid players

vale cobalt
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fearless is the goat

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best ram best monke

earnest leaf
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fearless top 2 winston

vale cobalt
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top 1

earnest leaf
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imo him and smurf interchangeable for #1, picking one over the other makes sense

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but also ram is an easy hero that any top owl tank is good at

vale cobalt
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i wish fearless could play sigma

slate siren
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Oh my god

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Kevster or Sparkle

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Fuckkkk

vale cobalt
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kevster

heavy cliff
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Hear me out

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Kevsters good and all, i know that

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but i feel he just isnt trying sometimes, sparkle is always a consistent good player, and he could always whip out the genji which he's really REALLY good at, he can tracer, echo, he won a grand finals, thats experience kevster don't have

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Personaly i like sparkle more

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Sparkle could maybe whip out the doom if the meta called for it

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Hanbin doom is probably worse than sp9rk1e

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ALSO sp9rk1e exudes about 900 Kilowatts of power per win, thats enough to power a household for a month. Kevster is like lip, whenever he wins or looses, HE IS STALE, No reaction

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For team mental i would prefer sp9rk1e

vale cobalt
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loool

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sure buddy

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since u defended him and made me laugh

hazy marsh
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I like sparkle more as a player but I think I'd prefer to have kevster from a team perspective

sullen berry
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last chance for contenders drops

vale cobalt
vale cobalt
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u have 1 more month

heavy cliff
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also 90% of the good players are korean

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so for better comms

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kevster isnt better

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In just my opinion, i'd rather have sp9rk1e than kevster

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Also imo being the best or one of the best tracers, isnt as impressive as LIP being undisputably the best sombra or whoru the best genji

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If ur the best tracer

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Theres so much competition

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You're replacable

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Thats all it is to me

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Theres so many other good tracers, that could take ur spot, and do the things you do, with no significant downgrade, but if you have lip, who's gonna replace him?

daring pier
heavy cliff
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To me thats what makes lip vs someone such a hard decision, both are irreplaceable, who do you put in their place, that does what they do?

heavy cliff
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Why do they even do that

daring pier
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i was on 32% for hanzo from last stream, and now it’s saying i’ve gotta watch another 4 hours :( so kiriko isn’t possible)

heavy cliff
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nevermind i get it

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probably for the people who almost got it, gotta watch it all over again

daring pier
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that’s dumb

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cuz they also upped the amount of time

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hanzo was 2 hours

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and now is 4

heavy cliff
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was it?

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it was always 4 for me

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2 was the spray

daring pier
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yeah it was 2 for the spray/ icon, then a further 2

heavy cliff
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4 total hours

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its the same no?

daring pier
daring pier
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they’ve started an hour ago

heavy cliff
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oh but theres gonna be other streams

daring pier
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but it’ll reset again

heavy cliff
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i wish i could post a photo rn

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but it says itll end in october 3rd

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and also the spray aint there

daring pier
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oh really?

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that’s probably why it’s 4 hours then

heavy cliff
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yeah

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The next stream we can watch is

daring pier
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also it’s not a spray lmao

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they said it is

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but it’s an player icon

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wait

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does the asian stream give drops too

heavy cliff
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09-13-2023 Contenders Fall Series ANZ | Double Elimination Australia 6:00 PM AEST Twitch
09-14-2023 Contenders Fall Series ANZ | Double Elimination Australia 6:00 PM AEST Twitch

daring pier
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bet

heavy cliff
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09-12-2023

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for aisia

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these are on their website

daring pier
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the time zones are different for me tho

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cuz i’m in the uk

heavy cliff
heavy cliff
daring pier
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so bst isn’t on there

heavy cliff
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itll translate it to ur time too

daring pier
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so i’d have to wake up at weird times

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it started at 8 in the morning for me🤣

heavy cliff
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Im from portugal

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So

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but i always wake up at that time

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Man wait why is my pfp

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hold up

daring pier
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siuuu

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sorry

heavy cliff
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Literaly every single time

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I fixed my pfp now

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I had gotten payed 3.23€ to put that as my pfp for a few days by the chinese government

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Great deal

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they also asked for all my information

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foreve

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but 3€ is 3€ so yk

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who cares they arent even gonna use it for anything

daring pier
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lmaooo

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fair

heavy cliff
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Also if you just leave ur computer on

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on their twitch

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when the stream starts, you'll be watching

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I leave it on there and whenever it streams it watches

daring pier
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hehe that’s what i did for the spray and bap skin

heavy cliff
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I wanna create a bracket

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for the best owl player

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How many players should it have

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we can have 16

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or 32

heavy cliff
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I can only put one or two of izayaki ljg and twilight in the bracket

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shit

heavy cliff
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Heaven Sent on the jsilly

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Omg

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i love contenders

sullen berry
heavy cliff
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theres only like 118 players signed in owl rn

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i could try

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But it would be hard to make it a functioning bracket

heavy cliff
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I've finished a bracket with 32 players, only current players, except Choisehwan

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But he deserves it

robust patio
heavy cliff
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current

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except choi

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because

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he counts

robust patio
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no one can beat prime pine

heavy cliff
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Also no contenders players

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Im having a hard time though

robust patio
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lip chiyo fielder hanbin sp9 fearless

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hydron

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prophet profit

restive forge
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prophet is contenders

heavy cliff
robust patio
heavy cliff
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some players are kinda iffy

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Feel free to tell me if you dont like it, its really hard though

robust patio
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nice

heavy cliff
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fuuck

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profit or sugarfree

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Like profit is very good yes

robust patio
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profit ofc

heavy cliff
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but strictly at the current moment

robust patio
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still profit

heavy cliff
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idk

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Sugarfreee looks a lot better just at a glance

robust patio
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i played with him in pc cafe back when in ow1 was boomin

robust patio
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hes like loyal to seoul

heavy cliff
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Mer1t or ch0rong

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ouh

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chorong for me

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Leave Vs Checkmate is really hard

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It feels easy

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but it isnt

robust patio
heavy cliff
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nah

robust patio
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he literally demolished guangzho

heavy cliff
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What?

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What does that have to do with anything

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Ch0rong is a lot more important

heavy cliff
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He's easily a top 3 or top 2 main support

robust patio
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merit earned double of what chorong did

heavy cliff
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How?

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is he a top 2 or 3 dps?

robust patio
heavy cliff
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Main supports just dont get enough love

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No MS for mvp

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viol2t don't count

robust patio
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chorong earned 61k while merit earned 141k

heavy cliff
robust patio
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total earnings from tourneys

heavy cliff
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BRUH

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That does no matter at all

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That fully depends on ur team

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Man ur right

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lip for mvp

robust patio
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merit and chorong is in mayhem

heavy cliff
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look how much more money he won than someone

robust patio
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if i recall

heavy cliff
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ofc he has more earnings

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MS goes to me like this
Chiyo

Viol2t/Chorong

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Thats the top 3

robust patio
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wheres fielder

heavy cliff
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MAIN SUPPORT

robust patio
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ah

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i kinda agree

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u basically comparing a dps and a sup thats why

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prob biased tbh

heavy cliff
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Chor0ng is better at what he does, that mer1t is at what he does

robust patio
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hm

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in the bracket, thats the only thing i disagree 😂

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lets see how u finish others

heavy cliff
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hanbin vs izayaki is weird

robust patio
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hanbib surely

heavy cliff
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yes

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its close

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but i think hanbinb

robust patio
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yea izayaki also won 4 1st place

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while hanbib won 6

heavy cliff
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But thats on the team

robust patio
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izayaki still goat tho

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ik ik

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ive watched both play

vagrant cargo
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Izayaki not even top 3 fs of all time

heavy cliff
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man

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chiyo vs lip is sad

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shame that chiyo has to go so early in the bracket

robust patio
heavy cliff
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They are both top of their role

vagrant cargo
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He's ight

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Not that great this year tho

robust patio
vagrant cargo
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I'm surprised that he's starting over twilight rn

heavy cliff
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When i get home in an hour or so

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ill make a bigger bracket

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so this doesnt happen

robust patio
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shu stalk3r

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thats a tough one

heavy cliff
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but man shu and stalk3r is brutal

robust patio
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sometimes shu diffs

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sometimes stalk diffs

heavy cliff
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but in a tournament setting stalk3r has shown slightly more

robust patio
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ya

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he kinda carried mis season first place too

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mid

restive forge
# heavy cliff idk

seoul was dogshit when profit took a break, he came back and now they’ve won east playins..

heavy cliff
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but shu sometimess just does shu things

restive forge
robust patio
robust patio
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this the only thing i disgaree

heavy cliff
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Listen Main supports always get cucked

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No chiyo or chorong for mvp

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but skewed ?

restive forge
robust patio
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exactly

heavy cliff
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Listen idk where yall get that

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How is mer1t better than chorong

robust patio
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HE LITERALLY WON AS MVP SUP

heavy cliff
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Jjonakk was flex supp

robust patio
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ryujehong wasnt mvp but

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still got recognition

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tbh comparing merit and chorong itself is unfair

heavy cliff
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Main supports AKA Lucio Brig Mercy get absolutely no love

restive forge
heavy cliff
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Ok

restive forge
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i do not think chorong us a top 5 ms

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is*

heavy cliff
robust patio
heavy cliff
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THATS NOT EVEN FUNNY

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WHO IS ABOVE HIM

hazy marsh
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heavy cliff
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Chiyo showing us probably the best main supp we have ever seena

robust patio
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this is shin ranking

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players

heavy cliff
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and not even getting nominated for mvp

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is wild

hazy marsh
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Yeah

heavy cliff
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Do people not think ch0rong is good?

hazy marsh
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I didnt pay enough attention to FM to say much tbh

heavy cliff
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my list goes Chiyo Ch0rong/Viol2t LJG

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and idk

robust patio
weary talon
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Huh

heavy cliff
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Ok listen chor0ng is arguably top 2 MS, how would mer1t be top 2 at his role

hazy marsh
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Why would you compare people whp play different roles unless it's something where they share a lot of similarities

robust patio
heavy cliff
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so?

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doesnt make him better

hazy marsh
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What's the point of comparing dps and supp players when they're so different

heavy cliff
restive forge
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if chorong is top 5 hes 5

robust patio
heavy cliff
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SKEWED?

robust patio
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this be easy

heavy cliff
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He's in apac

restive forge
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yes?

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and?

heavy cliff
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Apac is a joke

hazy marsh
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^

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Too bad

restive forge
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lmao what

robust patio
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lol

hazy marsh
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Skewed is a legend

restive forge
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just bc skeweds in apac means he isnt good?

heavy cliff
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The best apac teams just play monkey into junker queen bastion meta

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and win

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4-1

restive forge
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like what is this counter argument

heavy cliff
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Try that against the best western teams

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see how that plays out

restive forge
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“hes in apac” and chorongs getting backpacked by the best tank and a insane dps line

hazy marsh
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Are you also gonna say that Hanbin is irrelevant because hes apac despite the fact hes one of the greatest off tanks of all time?

heavy cliff
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Dallas was a western team

hazy marsh
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Skewed has been on the glads

heavy cliff
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gettting overshadowed by shu

restive forge
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skewed was west last year too..

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like what

heavy cliff
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so not really noticable

restive forge
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r we trolling here

heavy cliff
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i dont blame him

hazy marsh
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This guy 💀💀💀💀

robust patio
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lel

robust patio
heavy cliff
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Ok yk what

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ill put mer1t over ch0rong

restive forge
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me when i’m not allowed to be better then a player because I play in a different region (i was in the same region last year and was better)

robust patio
hazy marsh
restive forge
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no

robust patio
heavy cliff
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32 is the max you can go

restive forge
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this is something their doing

hazy marsh
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Ah

robust patio
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their

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no

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just shin

heavy cliff
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im gonna make a bigger bracket later

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like bigger bigger

restive forge
heavy cliff
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but for the sake of the people ill put mer1t over chorong

hazy marsh
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What's the 256 player one that some streamers are doing?

robust patio
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tyty

restive forge
weary talon
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Why does it matter

robust patio
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256 is a lot

weary talon
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How can you compare chorong to merit

robust patio
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exactly

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bracket kinda unfair in some point

restive forge
robust patio
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i agree with others tho

weary talon
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It should be categorized

heavy cliff
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Ok yk what ill spend as much time as possible making the most fair bracket i can in like 1 hour when i'll have more time

restive forge
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not really

heavy cliff
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I'll do it for each role, All time

weary talon
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Cause what makes a MT good isnt the same qualities to what makes a hitscan player good

robust patio
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na shin its fine currently

heavy cliff
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these are all qualities all players have

robust patio
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i respect ur opinions even tho there might be some disagreements

heavy cliff
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thank you

robust patio
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finish the bracket

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tho

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im curious of the final result

heavy cliff
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well i put stalk3r over shu, because he has proven that in a tournament setting, he can still perform at his best

heavy cliff
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Shu too i know

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but stalk3r what he did in the mideason madness

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the only tournament so far

heavy cliff
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is insane

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this is only his second year

hazy marsh
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But why not both?

robust patio
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merit vs profit now we talking

heavy cliff
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profit vs merit is gonna get me killed

weary talon
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Also most lets say hitscan players have about the same mechanics/ positioning / gamesense etc but some have more resources available to them

robust patio
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im more towards leaning to profit

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but merit is also good

weary talon
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For example lip can perform so well on any hero cause 1) hes the goat but 2) because he has also the best backline in the world

heavy cliff
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i'll say profit, because he has more experience, and a slightly larger hero pool

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his genji hanzo tracer

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all really really good

robust patio
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yea

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merit better hanzo player tho

heavy cliff
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aight leave i love you

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i am biased towards leave

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but someone is just someone

robust patio
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but profit is better on othrr dps

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someone my irl friend

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but leave is goat

hazy marsh
robust patio
hazy marsh
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What makes you decide "oh, only one of these two specific players is gonna be there"

robust patio
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again

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its his opinion

heavy cliff
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Listen its hard for me to rate apac players higher, when they have barely won a map against the west

robust patio
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it will be obv biased

heavy cliff
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They got rolled on their only tournament

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Its hard to rate them

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they only had a few matches against the west, thats not a lot to pull from

robust patio
uncut drum
robust patio
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posting so idh to scroll up

robust patio
uncut drum
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who would win in 1v1

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?

robust patio
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no no

heavy cliff
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Its as an overall player

robust patio
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best owl players in general

hazy marsh
weary talon
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I don’t understand why you mix your brackets from the beginning on

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Compare mt to mt

heavy cliff
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I get it ok its a bit late for that now

uncut drum
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like was mag vs sparkle a matchup

hazy marsh
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Comparing people by mainly using team performance as a factor is fucking ridiculous

weary talon
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Yeah

robust patio
weary talon
heavy cliff
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Im actually kinda doubtful on that mag vs sp9rk1e one

robust patio
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u think mag is better?

heavy cliff
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Its a hard one

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But honestly i still like sp9rk1e more

robust patio
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na sp9rkle clearly

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wins

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easily

heavy cliff
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Man i get what you mean with them being separated by roles

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this is hard

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i need to go now ill be back in a bit to finish off the bracket

robust patio
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i alr know Lip is winning

weary talon
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Thats why hes my goat

rugged quest
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it wasnt even close at midseason

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but its been pretty close recently yeah

robust patio
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tbh no one can beat prime carpe ans pine

weary talon
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Pine?

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Bro

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Pine is a 3 clip merchand

robust patio
weary talon
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It means he’s only rated so highly cause he has those few clutch clips

robust patio
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no way u just said that

weary talon
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The ilios well cass clip and junkertown widow flank clip

robust patio
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im speechless._.

cedar oasis
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Pine was rated highly because when he was hot no one could stop him..

little echo
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🙏

vale cobalt
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plays like a dogshit under spectra's shadow whole season

has one great game

calls himself the goat

little echo
vale cobalt
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just think about it

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he called himself the goat

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called heesang inferior

little echo
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the dron is the smartest dps player in the world

vale cobalt
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so bad

hazy marsh
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Nah bro Hydron aint no goat

little echo
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best dps igl

vale cobalt
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then what is mn3 lip stalker pelican xd

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a god?

hazy marsh
little echo
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mn0 imo

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mn3 is a plat player who toggles in owl sometimes

vale cobalt
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so cringe

little echo
vale cobalt
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he lived under spectra's shadow whole season

little echo
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clears fraudper tracer

vale cobalt
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had 1 game

little echo
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as seen in 2021 krc

vale cobalt
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i hate when ppl

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forget

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the old stuff

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heesang carried titans for 3 weeks as tracer

little echo
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heesang has literally been a worse hs than hydron their whole careers

vale cobalt
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hydron inted every game

little echo
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I just said heesang tracer > proper tracer

vale cobalt
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spectra carried toronto

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everytime

little echo
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how am I disrespecting that

vale cobalt
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he carried 1 time

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and says hes the goat xd

little echo
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just goatsang is not a hs

vale cobalt
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yes he is not

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hows he inferior player

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lol

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hydron is like a spoiled baby

little echo
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nobody said that

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he was

vale cobalt
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idc what ppl say

vale cobalt
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himself

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he said heesang stoped playing widow cuz hes the inferior player

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in a interview

little echo
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yeah but the implication is better {widow} player

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not better {overwatch} player

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in that interview

vale cobalt
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according to hydron hes the goat

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HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

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w.e. man

little echo
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hydron is the goat dps igl

vale cobalt
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it was a good game

little echo
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nobody does it better

vale cobalt
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ggs

vale cobalt
vale cobalt
little echo
vale cobalt
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counter point is

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that he is not

little echo
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the dron smartest igl to ever play dps

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objectively

vale cobalt
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lip mn3 zest pelican stalker proper kevster

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who are these ppl then

little echo
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respectfully none of those people are standout igls

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whereas like

vale cobalt
little echo
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the thing mfs recognize hydron for is igl

vale cobalt
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SUUUUUUUUUUURE

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mn3 is not a "standout" nor is LIP

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SUUUUUURE

little echo
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mn3 is most definitely not a standout igl

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that mf is silent his whole career

vale cobalt
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HES THE FKN GOAT

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MN3 IS SO GOOD

vale cobalt
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huuuuuuuuh

little echo
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do you understand what igl means

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sir

vale cobalt
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mn3 is the best hitscan in the asia

little echo
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it has nothing to do with being a good player like late stage ark was a good igl

vale cobalt
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no one does better

little echo
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but the worst ms

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it’s literally just in game leader

heavy cliff
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not that i disagree

little echo
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stage 4 mercy otp

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at that point in his career