esports-discussion

[tawdry hamlet]

I am genuinely curious what is this destination

[keen abyss]

no he absolutely did not

[karmic charm]

not to the extent he got buffed

but he needed a buff

[keen abyss]

no

characters like bastion

should not get buffed

ever

some characters need to stay bad

i think

if any of these heroes are weak

they need to stay weak

second tier like if they're actually suffering they can get small buffs MAYBE but never gigabuff any of them please

any buffs to anyone in the top tier is actually just terrible game design

[karmic charm]

but he just a cute lil robot

[keen abyss]

I LOVE BEING A TANK PLAYER IN ORISA BASTION TORB BUFF SEASON!!!

I LOVE LOSING ANY POTENTIAL TO POSITIVELY INFLUENCE THE GAME ON TANK BECAUSE THEY SWAPPED TO BASTION

[karmic charm]

tracer should be in one of these

[keen abyss]

nah 99% of overwatch players dont suffer when tracer gets buffed

game is healthy when tracer is good and she'll never be oppressive for most players unless something terrible happens

[karmic charm]

its blizzard, something terrible will happen

[keen abyss]

if any of the heroes in the top tier besides like sombra and maybe zarya see time in OWL

[karmic charm]

tracer isnt being played rn , i guarantee she will get buffed

[keen abyss]

it's awful

and they should both be niche

[keen abyss]

they aren't going to buff tracer

they're going to nerf orisa and bastion

[karmic charm]

its blizzard

[keen abyss]

(they will not nerf torbjorn because he is 'not oppressive')

why would they ever ever ever fucking buff torb

why would they ever do this

[karmic charm]

nah theyll nerf turret more and buff the rest of his kit more again bc low ranks cant play vs turrets

[keen abyss]

i stopped playing comp bc of torb

like they just go torb m*rcy hitscan or smth

and like what the fuck do i do now

[karmic charm]

cry

u cry

bc its ow

[keen abyss]

how am i supposed to play against the pocketed hitscan while also having to deal with a torb turret

i forgot to put lw in the second tier

they should not buff that hero

at least not in the way they've been buffing him

like i genuinely think he just needs to be able to shoot like bap

being able to fire both at once without swapping

also lower petal duration by 3 sec and cooldown by 3 sec so it's a more fluid ability that he can use more often to make plays

and in return please lower the fucking sustain abilities

lower the healing lower the ult buffs

[feral zodiac]

I think it's either let him heal whilst firing or let it be an instant 75 heal with a very short cd

The life pull is by far the most boring part of his kit

[weary talon]

Or let him store his charged heals

Charge it up go dmg , heal if needed with an instant 75

[feral zodiac]

Turning it into smth similar to brig packs would be interesting

But like not 3 charges obvs

[weary talon]

Him having low heaing is good

Imo

[feral zodiac]

Agreed

High healing is not good for the game

Especially with heroes like ana and bap existing

[weary talon]

But at least they dont have auto aiming heals

[feral zodiac]

True, but that doesn't really matter for bap

Regen burst is an insanely good healing ability

Utility is always the best way to go with supports

Make them useful in their own way

[weary talon]

Under 50 it gives you instant 100 heals + 50 overtime

[feral zodiac]

Like, artifical highground with petal is such an interesting ability

And has so much potential

Like there's so much room for plays that other supports just can't do

And they don't have to be murder machines like zen either

[weary talon]

The plays he can do require too much coordination to pull it off consistently in ranked

[feral zodiac]

Discord is (imo) in the 5 worst abilities to ever be put in the game

[weary talon]

• its a lot of resources invested to get no so crazy results

[feral zodiac]

Not as in it's bad

But it's just not a fun ability

True

Petal needs really high co-ordination

[weary talon]

Yeah while lucio can just speed amp and has extracted a lot of value

[feral zodiac]

But it's creative and unique

[weary talon]

Or ana can just nade

[feral zodiac]

Which is a step in the right direction

Especially compared to illari

Healing turret was an awful idea and whoever came up with it deserves to get fired

[weary talon]

I think illari is alot more fun

With and against

And as

[feral zodiac]

Most of her kit is fine

The turret isn't

It's just more lock on healing

And makes choke points complete nightmares

[earnest leaf]

illari just needs a nerf to her knockback thing

7 seconds is way too short of a CD

[feral zodiac]

Honestly fair

It's a pretty insane ability for its cooldown

[vale cobalt]

OKAY

EAST

KNOCKOUTS

LETS GO

its wild

5k

rpennnnnn

[vale cobalt]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxZzhiFGDffP0O0Ppw3Lm_B81b2WUkAPCU?feature=shared

L BLADE

[gusty rampart]

Rhodes is the most tragic team I think I've ever watched

[vale cobalt]

sadge

[weary talon]

They got outplayed by pokeface

They needed to builds so they took a fight during the rotation but aidan just speed amped everyone out and rhodes built like 10 %

On ults

[vale cobalt]

rip

FINALLY VOID IS BACK

REMOVE BELOSREA

[vale cobalt]

why is belosrea back

[little echo]

bellygoat

[sullen berry]

damn

[uncut drum]

Dynasty doing good with void playing jq

Who would have thought

[vale cobalt]

it's not hard when jinmu is wintrading

[sullen berry]

SOMBRA

I DID IT

Another shot at a reverse sweep

BING

[vale cobalt]

...

[humble yarrow]

If the charge looses this game are they eliminated?

[sullen berry]

It's knockouts

any team that lost today is eliminated

[weary talon]

Lul

[vale cobalt]

yes

[vale cobalt]

HAAHHHH

[weary talon]

Me when i beef 5 shots on a 1 hp lucio

[humble yarrow]

Vindaim is unkillable

[vale cobalt]

MY EYES

[weary talon]

Tell that to the people at shock

[vale cobalt]

lol

[humble yarrow]

Haha

[vale cobalt]

vindaim got a redemption arc on dynasty

[humble yarrow]

A well deserved one too

[dreamy cave]

I'm stealing this idea

Also I'm sooooo late to the stream

[sullen berry]

you are so late my dude

[dreamy cave]

Good to see pokerface actually get a win

[sullen berry]

but blame the schedule having two contenders matches before OWL team knockouts

Pokerface has improved, so i am happy to see they still have a shot

[dreamy cave]

I need those leauge tokens

[sullen berry]

nani

[dreamy cave]

Also 400 maps is insane

[sullen berry]

has SBB even played 400 maps

[dreamy cave]

4 hundo before OWL dies rip

[dreamy cave]

Nah no shot. He stopped playing a long time ago remember. Alot of those has to be from the other seasons

[vale cobalt]

fr

[sullen berry]

season 1 had minimum 40 games and min. 4 maps

so I don't think I'm stretching that JJonaK may have had 400 maps

but not everyone has that going for them

esp players who started during GOATS szn

[dreamy cave]

But didn't they also have 3-0 matches??

[sullen berry]

BING BING

[dreamy cave]

Wait, where is the free space??

[vale cobalt]

where did jimmy go?

windowed bastion right click strikes again

[uncut drum]

wtf was the rampage

[uncut drum]

vindaim is playing so good today

[vale cobalt]

gg

[uncut drum]

sidedaim

[dreamy cave]

Rip Chengdu Charge

I hope old 2018-19 watchers are happy. We have bastion being played in owl and it's annoying

[uncut drum]

we all are happy

who didnt want to see pro bastion

[dreamy cave]

I want pro junkrat

[dreamy cave]

Surely dragons don't flop

They are playing close to a ball comp

[dreamy cave]

Spg trying to win fr

[vale cobalt]

disgusting

[sullen berry]

guangzhou charge coaches watch as a game can go to map 5 (they don't have an official coach)

[vale cobalt]

sin prisa winning

ez

bro dragons lost

3-2

how

[cedar oasis]

They suck

And apac

[sullen berry]

cursed 3-2

contenders teams have always been this good in korea

i don't get the narrative being flexed that teams are losing to the very contenders teams that get imported regularly to OWL

[little echo]

well

the parody between top krc and top apac is relatively new

but 2021 o2 talon and t1 would’ve been top half apac

[sullen berry]

OG Runaway that would of had Kaiser in OWL S1 would have kept up with Mayhem Fuel and S1 Shock easily

[heady turtle]

https://web.roblox.com/games/8672151528/unnamed

[sullen berry]

@heady turtle roblox dead game

[heady turtle]

https://web.roblox.com/games/8672151528/unnamed

haahah

im noob

[sullen berry]

Bro we can literally play roblox in ow2

[balmy wolf]

so realistically who do you think will make play ins for the finals?

[weary talon]

Guangazhou charge

[cloud latch]

@sullen berry thoughts?

[karmic charm]

DRAGONS LOST TO SPG AGAIN LOLLL

[hasty hound]

Apac isnt a real region

[uncut drum]

yeah

[karmic charm]

thats the uh

4th time

dragons lost to spg

iirc?

[uncut drum]

at least one of the teams own

dynasty played void

and looked a lot better

[meager onyx]

charge vs valiant who wins

[weary talon]

Charge

Charge has two competent dps at leas

Seeker is alone

[timid phoenix]

3rd

but still

being 3-0 against an OWL team is wild (even if it is the Shithai Dragons)

[balmy wolf]

Apac just got fucked over this year and charge especially did imo they have no coaches just players n a owner

[uncut drum]

valiant

[timid phoenix]

they only hurt themself more when they went full Chinese

[meager onyx]

the choi drop for jinmu was a sell

[weary talon]

Jinmu is the goat

[meager onyx]

maybe when he was on chengdu

def not on this team lol

[balmy wolf]

Hey somebody had to pick up the Chengdu hunters

[timid phoenix]

The fact that jinmu got another year in the league was crazy

[dim egret]

https://x.com/rift_ggs/status/1698017948395262014?s=61

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Color combination so pretty

[vale cobalt]

XD

[sullen berry]

It's just the best part of HZS & GZC color scheme

[signal depot]

Can you still get owl coins from yt streams?

[weary talon]

Yes

Only if its live owl games

(No contenders or world cup)

[uncut drum]

our goat

[hasty hound]

bro is in love with nyxl

[junior radish]

hey gang

guess who just met rakattack

[plush grail]

if u get the chance tell him that luigi loves him

[junior radish]

oh

i’ll go back

[plush grail]

lmaoo

[sullen berry]

I take it you're at the Boston irl watch party? @junior radish

[dreamy cave]

IS SHOCKWAVE STARTING???

Come on shockwave you got this

https://tenor.com/view/shockwave-g1-transformers-shoot-gif-18947567

[heavy scroll]

does this look weird or is it just me

aww sugarfree looks smiley today

[weary talon]

Planet earth’s best Main tank

[plush grail]

is putting a dps player on ilari a legit strat

[heavy scroll]

white torb ult...

[rugged quest]

this meta is so dumb

[north relic]

he’s going to lose round 1

[timid phoenix]

wtf is vancouver doing

[rugged quest]

neither team has any playmaking

so just endless poke

[timid phoenix]

throwing a map for my pickems

[rugged quest]

until someone makes mistake

[uncut drum]

i will watch it later

it is like a few day thing

[north relic]

One day thing for super

Unfortunately

[uncut drum]

sorry what the fuck is this

faith bastion lenny support

[north relic]

Is main support aim really that bad

[plush grail]

crimzo is known for popping off on zen and and on occasion

why not put him on ilari

[north relic]

Cause that puts faith on bap

faith on anyone but brig

[plush grail]

aint no way faith bastion > faith bap

[north relic]

Lenny illari though

Makes up the difference tenfold

[plush grail]

he did jack shit

[north relic]

that’s cause titans isn’t very good

And nyxl are just the best team

[plush grail]

also is ilari legit meta

[dreamy cave]

[plush grail]

or is it like a gentlemans agreement to play her

[north relic]

let’s go nixel

[dreamy cave]

https://tenor.com/view/nyxl-gif-15126488

[dreamy cave]

I hope so, would make things a bit easier and even for everyone

Best hype video

[heavy scroll]

orisa booo

[paper totem]

Bro Orisa is so boring

I feel like queen has a tough time vs her

She’s so anti brawl

[obtuse pecan]

Oweesa!

[meager onyx]

big fits flank

[hasty hound]

WTF

faith actually saved the team

along with heesang

intense

[rugged quest]

what the fuck happened

cameraman threw so hard

heesang got like 4 clutch ot 2v5 kills but the cameraman somehow manages to not show any of them??

[humble yarrow]

My heart

My heart

[rugged quest]

you could show me diamond orisa gameplay and kellans owl orisa gameplay and i wouldnt be able to tell them apart

[weary talon]

Holy fuck

[dreamy cave]

My anxiety was peaking

[rugged quest]

very high skill ceiling hero

[weary talon]

Its compensation for apac being terrible this morning

[vale cobalt]

ikr

[humble yarrow]

Heesang rookie of the year

[hasty hound]

heesang and fits are just battling for potm

[humble yarrow]

So true king

[hasty hound]

nyxl goats?

[humble yarrow]

Perchance

[weary talon]

Holy fucking fits man

[dreamy cave]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

WE UP

[signal depot]

Guys can you still get owl coins for streams from owl on yt?

[north relic]

nyxl

are the best

[static pond]

Who won???

Oh nyxl

[heavy scroll]

Titans stop THROWING

[vale cobalt]

rip

[dreamy cave]

Glads are going to lose sooo bad

[hasty hound]

eww orisa

glads just gave that up

[karmic charm]

yep blizzard changed the schedule last minute

but not the pickems

well not blizz

owl

[balmy wolf]

Interesting meta we are in where orisa sig n Queen can counter each other to a degree

[hasty hound]

LEEJAEGOAT

decay beating the allegations

[balmy wolf]

He has all ways been that guy! Mans built dif

[hasty hound]

TRU

That knife???

[vale cobalt]

KEVSTER

[heavy scroll]

okay that makes sense

[naive stump]

@stone merlin You banned me for telling the truth

[icy kestrel]

Remember when glads won against mayhem

[icy kestrel]

L

[rugged quest]

the marve1 hate is so overblown

[naive stump]

That was a 3-1 win and literally the next couple of games got reverse sweeped by new york twice and a long line of 3-0 losses especially one against the titans, Im a glads fan but I cant lie some of you guys are delusional

[rugged quest]

glads backline dies first in every lost fight for entire eichenwalde but chat keeps bitching about marve1

[naive stump]

Cal is just too new to the league and astro is pretty washed

[rugged quest]

sorry, marve1 died first once when funnyastro tried beating for him but missed him entirely

[icy kestrel]

Mayhem beat them after them bullying the loser bracket

[rugged quest]

forgot that

[naive stump]

That win was 3-1 and glads then got dicked on by the mayhem in the losers bracket, you arent proving anything but showing that glads were good in one meta against Florida, everything else shows that the glads are ass and that kroenke screwed them over

[naive stump]

Ive been a glads fan since 2019 rooting for them, but after the glads got reverse sweeped so much and lost so much especially since this is their last season theres no point to root anymore

[icy kestrel]

Mans writing 2 paragraphs I ain’t reading all that

[naive stump]

thats fine I know overwatch players arent that smart anyways

[icy kestrel]

🦧

[naive stump]

[tawdry hamlet]

L Glads frfr

[vale cobalt]

L

[tawdry hamlet]

Why they sign cal again

I don't remember

Feed jaegon died and they still rolled

[heavy scroll]

rough day for pickems

[static pond]

Decay having a anime arc on genji

[tawdry hamlet]

Genji is so annoying because he's such a useless hero but he's so flashy 😭

[hasty hound]

WWWWWW

[tawdry hamlet]

So when someone pops off on him it makes them look insane

[vale cobalt]

rip the glads org

[tawdry hamlet]

[hasty hound]

rip ow

[tawdry hamlet]

Farewell Gladiators frfr

[static pond]

Comparing decay genji to last year

[heavy scroll]

thought glads were picking up a bit

[vale cobalt]

rip

[hasty hound]

where tf is yaki again

[heavy scroll]

pickems dead, next matchup is all i have left

[tawdry hamlet]

This Glads team reminds me of ojee ultraviolet Atlanta that didn't work out, so many epic names but at a barely above mid ceiling

[hasty hound]

you actually pred'd glads?

[heavy scroll]

idk thought they were waking up

[hasty hound]

they went back to bed

[tawdry hamlet]

Or the s4 Philly team

[heavy scroll]

seems so

[rugged quest]

Beside kevster what epic names do they have

[heavy scroll]

Titans were also so close to winning like bruh

[tawdry hamlet]

Yaki Kai Lastro Fastro were all regarded as above average or good and thus hyped up le team

I think people fell into the trap of popular names =/= good team

[rugged quest]

So theyre average beside kev?

[tawdry hamlet]

there was more hype early season because all the players individually were coming off good years 😭 post dropping Danteh the roster admittedly looks mid on names alone

Also is it a hot take to say if Kai was Korean he wouldn't have been nearly as hyped

I feel like some western players get hyped just for managing to hold their own against Korean talent not because they're actually really good in owl

[hasty hound]

i never thought kai was particularly good based on his gameplay

[rugged quest]

I felt like they had like top6 west ceiling before the season started

AT BEST

i never considered them a top top team

[tawdry hamlet]

S3 and s4 overrated Kai with s3 being mainly ashe widow play and s4 Cass mickey mouse comp

I miss all the hitscan talent from season 3, so many 😭

[static pond]

https://x.com/bostonuprising/status/1698091787414298781?s=46

Boston Uprising (@BostonUprising)

Should have stayed in the Valorant race instead 💀

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Twitter · Sep 2, 2023, 9:53 PM

[tawdry hamlet]

[static pond]

Harsh they just go removed from Val too

Got*

[tawdry hamlet]

Considering after the top 3-4 in na there's like Toronto nyxl shock titans London Washington and all of those rosters are the literal definition of mid I had more hope for the established names glads roster than the randomly half budget assembled ones

[static pond]

Glads had my fav sponsor too

[tawdry hamlet]

I didn't think Alphayi Flora would be that cracked, or that Bostons old shitty core plus sugarfree could do much, or that London would be able to force one comp this far

[static pond]

Read tht as “half budget avengers”

[tawdry hamlet]

Avengers Assemble

I'd like to imagine there's a timeline where ow released 2 years later and Viper is known as the best hitscan all time winning with Shanghai instead of lip

[static pond]

Flora has potential still new to the scene my problem is Washington tanks

[tawdry hamlet]

Literally tho

That roster would clear over half of na pretty easily if they had actual tanks

[static pond]

Viper was a hs?

[midnight needle]

rough day for glads

[tawdry hamlet]

I got viper mixed up with mn3 ok

[static pond]

Lmao

Nah moon had a good taste lip wast known due to goats

People saw him as a sombra one trick

[icy kestrel]

I want see lifeweaver

[static pond]

Then role lock became a thing and ans and lip I think where the best hs in apac

[tawdry hamlet]

[static pond]

Lip was a pretty decent team tho

[tawdry hamlet]

Peak Ans is the greatest flick hitscan to ever touch the game imo

Unmatched

I don't think Carpe, Decay, Diem, Fits, Xzi, who were all insanely good in season 3 were that close to him on flick

[static pond]

Decay was flicker imo

Wast*

[vale cobalt]

somone wrote "krawi so hot" in chat

💀

[static pond]

He just had very good angles

[tawdry hamlet]

He had the one map against Houston that cemented him in my head as a flicker lmao

[static pond]

Fits was in season 3?

[tawdry hamlet]

Seoul Playoffs

Fits vs Ans

[static pond]

Oh

Tbh I thought diem was very good

He just didn’t work on dragons

Felt like dragons had to change play style for diem when he was in

[tawdry hamlet]

I always knew Diem as the best widow in the world and expected Shanghai to be turbo nuts bringing Diem back adding Molly and erster but it felt like one of those times when you watch insanely cracked players and they just can't win

[static pond]

Lip was on the team

[tawdry hamlet]

[static pond]

During diem last year on dragons

He was on sombra tho

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah which is why it was surprising they ran Diem Stand1 in s3 playoffs

Surely fearless hog isn't that badd

😭

[static pond]

Lip didt play hs as much

During that time

[tawdry hamlet]

Diem on widow against seoul in s3 playoffs on Busan

When he hit the like 4k

Was sick

[static pond]

The meta was mad goofy and I don’t think any team practice that besides Seoul

[tawdry hamlet]

Decay closing a 12 better teams than washington skill gap with one meta ez

S3 is mad goofy tbh

One tourney was determined entirely by your genji player and one entirely by your hog player

[static pond]

Ye

They should have those uh money matches

Wage match I think?

[hasty hound]

seeker trying his hardest

[tawdry hamlet]

Seeker built diff on one hero

Seeker like one of those western dps who aren't very good in the grand scheme but are the best player on a shit roster so their stocks go up

Like Shockwave

when he was on titans

[static pond]

I would love to see a money match between Paris and la valiant

Vegas *

[tawdry hamlet]

Tbh I just wish the na players didn't spread out on rosters the way they did, they're all so much better individually than the budget rosters they landed on would have you think 😭

[static pond]

Think I like it this then a super team

[tawdry hamlet]

Cjay hitting the nervous tick hand pick lmao

Felt that

[static pond]

More spread our players are the more talent we see imo

Better then having a super team like atl or old shock

Or runaway

[tawdry hamlet]

I just think na is generally the weakest region so putting several na players on one roster makes the region as a whole look like ass because the bottom teams are majority na players

[static pond]

Oh ya there ass

I was talking about the Koreans

Lmao

[tawdry hamlet]

Hindsight reflection on American Tornado Time
Were the players overrated, or not

[static pond]

Tbh that hard to tell

Best contenders team were in apac

[tawdry hamlet]

Are hydron and uv the only ones in owl still?

Or is ojee still

[static pond]

Ojee on nyxl

Idk where uv is lol

Oh I think he was in nyxl but they dropped him

[tawdry hamlet]

Coluge exists still

I forgot

[static pond]

Ya

Idk who else

Other thing to mention is that contenders team practice goats before owl teams

That prob why American tornado were so good at it

[tawdry hamlet]

This plus s9mm and coluge was the iconic American tornado core

Crazy every single one of them made owl tbh

[static pond]

Then dropped like after two seasons

[tawdry hamlet]

It was weird s5 the floodgates to signing na players opened

It seemed wild to think half of 2020 contenders would be in owl by 2023 but then like late 2021 the floodgates opened

[static pond]

Think the best players were underage in apac lol

[tawdry hamlet]

And every na player and their mom got signed

[static pond]

Top dragon, specta

O2 blast

[tawdry hamlet]

I wonder if Develop would have gone far if he wasn't benchwarming a goat tier roster and then hucked into a coach less roster

[static pond]

He would have his very good on hs

[tawdry hamlet]

He was the top player in the "class" of players before Proper and I remember him having Hella hype

[static pond]

Don’t think moon expected lip to be that good

He was

[tawdry hamlet]

If Sombra wasn't meta for like 2 years straight do you think lip would've fallen off like fleta or would he still be a goat

[heavy scroll]

who is Maka

[static pond]

He would still be good

Fleta wast the best at a character

He just had huge flex

He can pretty much play anything

[tawdry hamlet]

Rascal was like that except worse

[static pond]

Ya

Decay was second

[cloud latch]

florida's new flexsupport

[heavy scroll]

oooh

[tawdry hamlet]

Crazy to think at one point Rascal was the best hyperflex and Striker the best tracer

How the mighty fall

😭

[heavy scroll]

how good are they regularly? were they in contenders

[static pond]

I still think sbb and profit were better tracers

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk profit is good but he never felt like the best, but his team was always 5050 so it's hard to tell

Since he probably would've rolled in a s3 shock situation

[plush grail]

peak sbb fucks everyone

[static pond]

He had bad tanks

Sbb was stuck with bad coaches

[plush grail]

nah sbb had mano

he was solid

[static pond]

That also true

[plush grail]

wait no now that u mention it

[tawdry hamlet]

Haksal, Libero, SBB, on one roster

[plush grail]

who did sbb play with as tank? mano bianca and hotba

[static pond]

I remember then sub nenne on sombra

[plush grail]

he never had even close to a top tier tanklinke with him

[static pond]

They*

Mano

And a person that started with j

[plush grail]

janus

[tawdry hamlet]

[plush grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bpgjbq9iJQ

if sbb managed to join a team with good coaching

[static pond]

Meko

Too

[plush grail]

he would have been the best player of owl and the face of ow for sure

[plush grail]

meko mano were good

but never really achieved their peak

partially becaus eof the wage thieves nyxl had as coaches

[tawdry hamlet]

I like how they're role swapping its such a roll atm we love role swap moments lately

[plush grail]

who is rol swapping

rn

[tawdry hamlet]

Rn it's a loading screen !

[plush grail]

wait wtf my game was way behind

[tawdry hamlet]

But no le teams were joking about role swapping and lyar reinhardt in chat

[plush grail]

it was still on midtown

[tawdry hamlet]

Lyar kind of goated tbh

[plush grail]

this pic goes hard

[cloud latch]

🐐

[plush grail]

luigi type stats

[tawdry hamlet]

Ranked player, limited contenders experience, college player and contenders player again, owl

I also like the gig and Mikey comeback arcs

[static pond]

https://x.com/flmayhem/status/1698105739561103643?s=46

Florida Mayhem (@FLMayhem)

Please give a warm welcome to our newest tank (for one map only), @ow_checkmate.

#LETHEMCOOK | #OWL2023

Twitter · Sep 2, 2023, 10:48 PM

[tawdry hamlet]

🧑‍🍳 let him cook

[static pond]

Hadi vs chadmate gonna be so good

[errant hornet]

I think that the game is over

checkmate might just gap the lobby

(yet again)

[plush grail]

they have to run sym

idk what map it is

but they need the sym

[errant hornet]

and I heard someone dps is solid

[icy kestrel]

Someone on dps?

[plush grail]

for the charge strats

[static pond]

Tbf like everyone in owl on dps like gm

[errant hornet]

well

difference between gm and fucking owl

big

[heavy scroll]

junkrat

what is valiant cooking

[unique root]

oh this is so

LOL

[errant hornet]

epic

checkmate dying first to create space

the goat

[meager onyx]

SOMEONE GENJI

[icy kestrel]

Could valiant actually win this

[meager onyx]

also n2s on illari and lyar torb

[heavy scroll]

no

[icy kestrel]

This round

[meager onyx]

no

[heavy scroll]

mayhem is playing with food

[icy kestrel]

They usually do

[heavy scroll]

even more so

[meager onyx]

val are on last game of prob the rest of their owl career

[dim egret]

https://www.youtube.com/live/IZSfwZz4MVw?feature=shared

[meager onyx]

they arent gonna sweat it

[dim egret]

what is calling all heroes?

[tawdry hamlet]

Someone cooking

[dim egret]

i@kinda like valiant, color scheme and name

Sad to see them so bad

[meager onyx]

imo the green and gold looked better

they were never really a star team

[heavy scroll]

its like a way for regular players to like, dip their toes in the competitive scene

[unique root]

its basically like. specifically for marginalized genders and stuff

[mortal cipher]

hmm

[dim egret]

Oh that’s cool

Do they have skins like contenders??

[mortal cipher]

no

[unique root]

no they dont

[heavy scroll]

lw moment

[earnest leaf]

the payment went through for checkmate

[unique root]

checkmate LMFAO

[errant hornet]

checkmate: solo shatters sombra

charges off map

[heavy scroll]

valiant playing mystery heroes

[unique root]

he looks like hes having fun

[errant hornet]

someone proceeds to kill 9 on genji

[dim egret]

I wish lifeweavee was meta in owl so I could see his tree in every single color

[icy kestrel]

Merit needs to be on support

[unique root]

unfortunately i dont think lw would be meta anywhere ever

[dim egret]

True

I get why they don’t make owl skins change the shots and ability colors but it would be so cool

[unique root]

sometimes certain parts are changed

kirikos ult changes depending on the team

the fox part at least

[dim egret]

Like the shrine part or just the fox?

Oh

[unique root]

its cute

[dim egret]

It’s really cool but I mean like Reinhardt shield, soldier field, lifeweaver lotus

[unique root]

i wear spark to match with ivy and the little pink fox is adorable

ohhhhh

yeh

[harsh atlas]

LFP 2.8-3.3k TANK

gm1/t500 coaching
consistent scrims (dm me)

[unique root]

it would be confusing to look at probably

[errant hornet]

so real

[dim egret]

I remember when I was new to the game and I didn’t know junkerstein rat changed the ult voice line so I died

Probably why they don’t make the owl change colors

[unique root]

oh yeah certain skins will change ult voice lines too

[dim egret]

I feel like most skin voice lines don’t change, the junkerstein one was just so different

Like pharah’s hellfire rains from above, or zenyatta experience nothingness

It’s still close to the original

[unique root]

thats fair eya

[dim egret]

I wonder what’ll be meta after Orisa gets nerfed

If she

Gets nerfed

[unique root]

after sitting through weeks of winston tracer sombra i think anything seems fun

LOL

[dim egret]

True…

[unique root]

winston tracer sombra is fun to watch still but like a change is nice in general

it looks like the players have fun changing it up too so

[dim egret]

Yeah I’m happy to see it change

I just hate how they made the meta shift by making Orisa unkilkable

And making torbjorn a machine gun

[unique root]

i hate both those heroes enough already

[somber ore]

LA gets the brakes beat off them... again

[dim egret]

Wait, calling all heroes have drops??

It says drops connected

[heavy scroll]

yeah cause its on contenders channel

so you get the contenders drops whenever they stream

[meager onyx]

kiri and hanzo skin rewards

[dim egret]

Does it just give the same 5 token a hour?

[heavy scroll]

no

[meager onyx]

contenders twitch rewards arent tokens

[heavy scroll]

tokens are only from league on yt

[dim egret]

No but I mean on YouTube, it says drops enabled

Oh I understand

[errant hornet]

poor kevester lol

bro deadlifts like half of eichenwalde alone and his team just loses

[somber ore]

well our games tmrw

not too important but still would like a win

[errant hornet]

I think if vegas played vs ATL rn that might be a winnable game for vegas

me thinks

[somber ore]

vegas was awful

[errant hornet]

they are so good they lose every game

they are actually 5 head and playing for future meta next year

[uncut drum]

Wow glads are out

[somber ore]

idk what the new metas will be

[uncut drum]

F

[errant hornet]

still feel so bad for kevster lol

how much can he do

in one game

[somber ore]

looking at the la valliants backround. they look like a poverty franchise

[errant hornet]

every owl team is gonezo

ngl

[somber ore]

why

[icy kestrel]

https://x.com/flmayhem/status/1698110490184982693?s=46&t=tSiqN7K3vGmw7r7pgVPEpA

Florida Mayhem (@FLMayhem)

bro is built different

Likes

107

▶ Play video

Twitter · Sep 2, 2023, 11:07 PM

[icy kestrel]

If he didn’t do this they probably would’ve lost

[hollow bough]

chadmate

[signal depot]

Can you watch on ps5 YouTube for the owl coins?

[timid phoenix]

Idk for sure but it should work as long as your account is connected

[balmy wolf]

i watched it on my smart tv and got the tokens so i’m pretty sure

[stray quarry]

https://twitter.com/momma_rak/status/1698092958816378907?s=46&t=tIk8pwmqDaa2X2LA1rAXhQ

Kim Rakauskas (@momma_rak)

Thank you @BostonUprising for winning it for my son @Rakattack !! So great to feel the positive energy in real life!!

Likes

129

▶ Play video

Twitter · Sep 2, 2023, 9:58 PM

rakattack experiences a win for the first time in his owl career

[meager onyx]

thats actually so cute

love it

especially the bracelets in the replies

[timid phoenix]

what is bro on about

when I'm in a most overrated game competition and my opponent is tf2:

are you ok

[hot onyx]

he is in an overwatch server for the sake of shittalking the game

mentally stable people move on with their lives

[heavy scroll]

lmao they got banned

[static pond]

He prob a tf2 troll

[timid phoenix]

yeah there are lots of those

[vale cobalt]

lyar offrole

sheesh

[timid phoenix]

🔥

[plush grail]

tf does that mean

[vale cobalt]

sadge

bro chadmade had 4 man shatter

insane stuff

[timid phoenix]

Back to his season 4 self

[static pond]

Means on steam under ow he writes ow sucks and team fortress is better

Without playing the game

[weary talon]

Guxueeee!!!??

[balmy wolf]

Doom is working!

Guxue is like “imma stay on doom…”

And mfs saying doom is bad

[dreamy cave]

L blade

[slate siren]

Guxue is so fucking voted

[balmy wolf]

What blade lol

[weary talon]

I think orisa will fall out of the meta

[slate siren]

Goated

[weary talon]

Tbh

And we’ll see more jq doom sig

[slate siren]

Guxue is the greatest tank that has ever touched this game

[weary talon]

Fletank:

[slate siren]

He’s diffing Hanbun so hard rn

[balmy wolf]

Less goo! We’re back to letting the loser pick the map.

[slate siren]

PINEAPPLE

WHAT

[dreamy cave]

Pineapple jumpscare

[slate siren]

OH MY GOD PINEAPPLE

[balmy wolf]

I really didn’t think it would go that way

[dreamy cave]

Dallas are lost

They are trying to do the spitfire strat and it dosnt look that good

[weary talon]

I pred 3-0 for dallas

Why

[balmy wolf]

Dallas fuel…

[weary talon]

Dallas fail

[dreamy cave]

I look pretty foolish rn

[dim egret]

same…

[vale cobalt]

bro my preds went south the moment panthera lost to pokerface

i trusted u beckyyy

[slate siren]

leave is just better

[balmy wolf]

The meta changed so much that fuel is struggling

Hold up

They’re lookin alive still

Lol bliss

Damn 3-0

[weary talon]

Guxue is just tje goat

[river ore]

spark gonna win

[weary talon]

They already have

[pale perch]

hangzhou's play was soooo impressive

was a bit slippery at the first map, made me nervous a bit haha

[sullen berry]

"what are your thoughts on pineapple back in the roster?"

Personally I thought they just put on a good show

[slate siren]

great player

He was pretty good on Illari in New York

he impressed me

Wasnt expecting Guxue to be this good on Doom

[weary talon]

Beating the winston otp allegations

[sullen berry]

Dallas Frauds

[static pond]

Wtf dreamers

[dreamy cave]

LETS GOOOOOO

Junkrat

FINALLY

[rugged quest]

tbh every "otp" tank in the league during low budget era is just a victim of the meta

[balmy wolf]

Oh brother

Infernal got diffed that first round

Huh…? Why is mag running in like that feeding?

[weary talon]

I think its just a hero pick issue

[balmy wolf]

Idk

They just got diffed in every aspect

[weary talon]

The orisa is bad without the bastion bap

Illari

[balmy wolf]

It’s always funny how delusional people are in live chat. They really think they’re better than owl players

[static pond]

Tbf everyone is prob better then mathel

[uncut drum]

wtf 02 winning

[wispy yacht]

no fucking way

[restive forge]

who are these casters

[nova urchin]

Sjeeeez

[wispy yacht]

seoul dynasty rejects carrying

[wispy yacht]

achilios and avrl

[uncut drum]

the goats

[nova urchin]

Seoul just got clapped

[restive forge]

“not official confirmation” oh naur

[wispy yacht]

apac format is terrible man

playins mean nothing

[restive forge]

true

[uncut drum]

contenders in playoffs would be funny

[uncut drum]

they do

[static pond]

O2 beating both Seoul’s

[uncut drum]

one team gets in

[wispy yacht]

i heard that it's like

[restive forge]

“the owl slayers”

WhoRU my king

[wispy yacht]

2 make it based on past performances

or sm

[nova urchin]

And who r u?

[wispy yacht]

but the format is so confusing it's terrible idek

[restive forge]

Bad joke

[uncut drum]

no the winners of the knockouts get in

[restive forge]

Do better

[uncut drum]

group a and b

then one from play ins

[wispy yacht]

i thought the knockouts were the play ins

[restive forge]

Is it possible for dreamers and blast to make it or na

[nova urchin]

No I need to Prot3ct my jokes

[restive forge]

Idk the groups

[uncut drum]

yes

[wispy yacht]

bc i heard like contenders teams cant make playoffs bc of their record

[nova urchin]

My ego might get Skewed

[uncut drum]

i think they can

the format is stupid

yes

but i think 2 get in from knockouts

[wispy yacht]

thats a good thing ig

still confusing asf though

[restive forge]

hope they both make it then

[weary talon]

Idc about the format

[wispy yacht]

whoru is fucking cracked though

and on genji of all heroes what's new

[restive forge]

helps when you’ve been playing a pro genji since before owl

[weary talon]

Its so poorly made

[wispy yacht]

true

[weary talon]

I only watch games

[sullen berry]

give me Pro-AM tournaments for a full year in NA

[restive forge]

yeah idk what the format even is but the games are fun to watch

[sullen berry]

Korean contenders carrying the flag

[weary talon]

Yeah

[uncut drum]

lol

[wispy yacht]

idk why they decided to implode s5 format in favor of this mindfuckery

[uncut drum]

he is ill and still that good

[sullen berry]

and the script for which team is the best in the east

[weary talon]

Sean miller

[sullen berry]

I did not have beast slayers in my pickems

[wispy yacht]

i had dreamers make some kind of run

[wispy yacht]

but i did not expect o2b to plow through infernal in winners finals

[balmy wolf]

Infernal

Suck ass

[little echo]

sin prisa vs o2b gonna go crazy 🔥

[wispy yacht]

2nd best team in apac getting gapped by the seoul dynasty rejects is crazy

[weary talon]

2nd?

Whos better

[balmy wolf]

Fuel

[weary talon]

?

[wispy yacht]

dallas

[weary talon]

The same team that got 3-0 by a doomfist

?

[balmy wolf]

Dallas has the number 1 spot and then infernal second

[split flume]

fuel just got 3-0'd by spark

[balmy wolf]

Yeah and you’re trying to say doom isn’t good?

[weary talon]

No

But hes not considered “meta”

[balmy wolf]

Btw spark got 3-0 by infernal so shit happens

[split flume]

all these teams lose to atlanta/florida/houston so

[weary talon]

Lol

They do

[balmy wolf]

There is no meta atm really

[pale perch]

whoru really is the best genju

genji

[balmy wolf]

Everyone plays who they want

[pale perch]

the match just now was insane

[balmy wolf]

It wasn’t insane

It was a complete wash

[weary talon]

I was about to say that but its definitely orisa who’s the most played

[restive forge]

didnt expect any different tbh O2 get to play their favorite characters so id hope they’d be amazing

cause they have the talent

[weary talon]

It would be funny if contenders make it to the playoffs

Though

[balmy wolf]

Yeah they both swapped off of orisa cuz she wasn’t working

[weary talon]

I still dont know why she’s played that much

[balmy wolf]

She doesn’t die

[restive forge]

she doesnt die

[balmy wolf]

^

[weary talon]

I hope once meta defines itself more it’ll be more queen

[restive forge]

3 cds to protect her against other cds

[balmy wolf]

I like JQ

She’s my favorite tank to play

But I’m thinking maybe i should learn doom

[restive forge]

spin eats like DM
jav knocks people back and stuns them
her fortify just turns her into a wall

[weary talon]

When shes with a bap and illari

[restive forge]

idk shes unkillable

[weary talon]

But we’ve seen kiri lucio orisa too

[balmy wolf]

I’m shocked mag didn’t go doom

He literally played him when he was ass

[restive forge]

is mag him still

I havent caught up with apac in awhile

since that seoul dallas game where everyone was bugging over mn3 bastion on kings row

[balmy wolf]

Infernal was the team to beat but they have random games where they get rolled

Off days I guess

Their off days are really bad

[weary talon]

They lost twice or thrice i don’t remember and at least 2 of these were complete rolls

Like 3-0

[balmy wolf]

Yeah if they lose, they fucking LOSE.

[weary talon]

No poko no win

Sadge

[balmy wolf]

He literally played one game and went back home lol

[weary talon]

Fly over to sk to play one circuit map

[balmy wolf]

They only brought him over cuz mag was sick

Well I’m hoping dynasty wins so we can have Seoul games again

[restive forge]

poko undefeated on the season… the real MVP?

[weary talon]

Poko mvp and benbest support role star

[junior radish]

yes i was

[signal depot]

Can you get coins on ps5 watching the YouTube stream?

[junior radish]

dont think so

dont think it supports that version

[uncut drum]

wow

[signal depot]

Ok

[uncut drum]

wtf happened there

[junior radish]

ik it doesn't work on tv at least

[humble yarrow]

SPG owl team killwr

[wispy yacht]

damn

spg just rollled those cunts

[uncut drum]

um

what just happened

[restive forge]

Void 🔥🔥

[wispy yacht]

ade's pretty clean with the bastion

[humble yarrow]

Spg is going crazy

[wispy yacht]

and dynasty just get caught on the rotation

they just got read like a book

[static pond]

https://x.com/hh_varuna/status/1698332474772722107?s=46

varuna (@hh_varuna)

Twitter · Sep 3, 2023, 1:49 PM

[humble yarrow]

They are real for that

[nova urchin]

ADE with that 5k

[humble yarrow]

Ade is always unfazed

[icy kestrel]

How long is pride skin last

I’m at 200 would it last long enough for me to watch 20 hours?

[junior radish]

huh

idk

i shouldn't have bought it

i just got it for the gold charm

before i realized u could buy separately in heroes section

[icy kestrel]

Where get the charm!

?

And how much is it?

[junior radish]

heroes section

charms

for the gold one

[hot onyx]

weapon charms scroll down and you find it for 100

[junior radish]

s

sort overwatch league

[paper totem]

What is meta rn

In owl

I’m seeing lot of Orisa and queen

[junior radish]

orisa bap illari

lots of experimentation tho

ppl r more free to play comfort picks

joats but kiri instead of brig seems like the brawl comp

[paper totem]

Why is Orisa good rn. Just after buffs

[icy kestrel]

How is ball Winning

[junior radish]

more sustain ig

illari good so she can play pretty pokey

[paper totem]

Ball can work if an entire team is commiting with him. In solo queue ranked he is terrible bc he’s on his own usually

[junior radish]

ball pretty good in team play

baits cooldowns and enables dps

[paper totem]

In solo queue ladder they go somb cass and it’s gg

[junior radish]

by doing that

[paper totem]

Bc ur team isn’t playing with you uusallly

[junior radish]

i force ball anyways

most sombra swappers suck

like

dogshit

[paper totem]

It’s an uphill battle. Cass sombra and then brig zen

Or brig Moira so they don’t die

Brig ana

[junior radish]

honestly cass isnt even that hard

i dont find him a problem at all

w the nade

hes much more of a problem for doom than ball

[paper totem]

He can be a major issue. I watched chasms games. I literally saw him swap. Cass sat on top of his zen. The zen would just perm discord ball

Hinder if ball ever tries to kill zen

But most teams don’t have Brains to do this

Yeatle has a good video covering why ball is worse now

[junior radish]

yea thats gm so

not as bad in plat

[paper totem]

No they don’t punish

[junior radish]

cuz they suck at those characters

[icy kestrel]

Monkey is best

[junior radish]

been playing more dps anyways tank is least fun role

[paper totem]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=37THCdPhj1U&si=rHRpDO3LHXNc9sYh

[junior radish]

yea i saw that

agree

lowkey

they should consider turning him into a dps

he just sucks as a solo tank

[paper totem]

I honestly don’t know how u change him

[icy kestrel]

Ball sucks

Winton better

[paper totem]

I think part of issue is ball just eats cc when he engages. Vs Winston and dva have tools to protect themselves from cc when they go in

[junior radish]

wrrd

wrd

[icy kestrel]

🦍

[paper totem]

Even doom can block to stay alive vs hinder

[icy kestrel]

[junior radish]

might be wrong but im p sure hinder doesnt actually take u out of ball form