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dim egret
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I need to vote predictions for tomorrow so I’m asking

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So many new contenders this week

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Sin prisa

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Weird, why can’t I vote save on my predictions

karmic charm
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for a contenders team to make it

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they have to win knockouts

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bc a contenders team cant qual for playins

karmic charm
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its ft4 not 3

dim egret
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I’m not sure? I predicted the upper and lower Collumd got east knockouts

karmic charm
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theres a scroll bar at the bottom

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for finals

dim egret
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Yeah I know

karmic charm
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and in the finals

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have u predded 4 maps to win

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or 3

dim egret
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Wait let me do it on my iPad

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Ohhh

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Oh the finals I did 3

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Instead of 4

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Thanks for telling me

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Is contender rhodes any food?

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Good

vale cobalt
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earlier

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I have 140 points overall in summer stage

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im 265th seed global

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.

dim egret
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Is it okay if I like uh

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Copy them

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Or would that morally be wrong

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Oh no I mean I’m doing East bracket

vale cobalt
dim egret
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It’s scary

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Sorry I didn’t see

vale cobalt
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.

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knockouts east

dim egret
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My discord is BUGGED

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now it’s all white

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Wait

vale cobalt
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i know

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my thing is all black

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I use darkmode on all websites

dim egret
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I usually use white mode

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I confirmed preds

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So I wanted to ask something

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Does the knockouts give extra points for being like

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A bracket??

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Or is it the same

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And if you get it wrong on the first ones do you automatically lose the rest?

vale cobalt
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it's the same

vale cobalt
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cuz same teams won't play if u predict it wrong

dim egret
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Alright

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Excited tho

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These knockouts seem fun

karmic charm
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since 2018*

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oh wait nvm I misread

hazy gorge
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Is the owl shop resetting on Tuesday or still the same Reinhardt offers

hazy gorge
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Idk why but I’m really hoping some champion skins come back

dreamy cave
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These are the finals I have for both east tournaments.

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Spark might lose 4-2 tho

tepid ibex
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Shanghai clear dynasty

dreamy cave
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I mean. That sure is a opinion..

sonic wadi
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You're an idiot

restive forge
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who up donging they hak

supple sedge
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Yeah lol Dove is a pro at missing his shots and ults haha

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Me and my friend constantly saying they need to drop Dove

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That game against valiant was hype af but ofc it has to be ruined by swapping out knife

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Knife is so OP he literally carries that entire team

vale cobalt
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put a gm5 he will do better i swear

hot onyx
hot onyx
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Void got rummaged by Pokgoat with no practice

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he has lost goat status

vale cobalt
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tomorrow is east knockouts

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im so hyped

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and west week 5 games with FLASHPOINT

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dogshit mode fr

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even though its a good mode, the maps are ass

weary talon
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Should i pred dynasty or dragons

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I think its a 50/50

dim egret
dim egret
vale cobalt
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dragons are awful

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viper is deadlifting the team alone but a man can do so much

vale cobalt
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New junk city is the better map

weary talon
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I’ll pred dynasty 3 dragons 2

vale cobalt
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ez

dim egret
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Map cover? That stuff?

little echo
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its a hostage situation

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fraudfit has him at gunpoint

vale cobalt
little echo
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telling him to play along and throw

vale cobalt
hot onyx
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what makes you think they start now

weary talon
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Have they?

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But dynasty has made upgrades

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And i forgot if dragons have made any

vale cobalt
hot onyx
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Dragons beat Dynasty 3-1 in both matches

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two games

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still two games

vale cobalt
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WEEK 1

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where is the other game

hot onyx
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in spring stage

vale cobalt
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...

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it doesnt matter? it's new meta

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for example toronto is a decent team now

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because they will run bap illari

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with 2 flex supports

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sirmajed and ultraviolet

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same goes for boston

hot onyx
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guess what team has two flex supportd

vale cobalt
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it's all about meta

hot onyx
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illari could be argued as a main support imo

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fixaszn

vale cobalt
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she requires a high skill cieling with her aim and in order to play her, mechanical skill is needed which supports the argument of her being a flex support rather than a main support

hot onyx
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yes because aim= flex support because main supports are known for being talentless

split flume
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If illari is considered a main support then the flex/main terminology has truly become meaningless

vale cobalt
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haahahahahaahha

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talentless

vale cobalt
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chiyo is talentless yes

split flume
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You're an infernal fan

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Apac ICANT

hot onyx
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ZEST has more mvp nominations than Proper

vale cobalt
vale cobalt
weary talon
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Wonder if poko will play more than mag now

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🤔

vale cobalt
weary talon
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Hope we’ll see more of the best french off tank

dim egret
vale cobalt
keen abyss
vale cobalt
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i like the idea of flashpoint but there is an issue: you can be staggared or base camped meanwhile one of your teammates are capturing the point AND if you die in a teamfight, you have a very low chance of winning it with 4 people because it takes too much time to get back to fight and it's very hard to hold the point until your teammates arrives after being dead

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i would love to see some kind of teleportation in the map because it takes too much time to go from point A to B

dim egret
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I wonder if flashpoint could benefit of somewhat closer spawns

split flume
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I think it's good design that you spawn a full Olympic sprint away from the point personally

split flume
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I love respawning and seeing "115m" over the objective

dim egret
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Flashpoint makes some heroes without any movement abilities obsolete

vale cobalt
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my whole point is, even though you make it faster, you cannot hold the point longer than your oppotenet if they pick heroes with a high survaviblity or hp (even though tracer has recall and genji has reflect, bastion has more hp + gains 50 armor everytime he enter his wheel form and torb has E which gives him movement speed, reload speed, and extra 100 hp)

weary talon
dim egret
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Why did they buff him??

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I thought he was in a good spot

vale cobalt
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they see bastion and torb being not as much as genji or pharah and this makes them think torb and bastion as "weak" or "off-meta" heroes and this leads them to buffing these heroes

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this is very wrong because every dev is a gold player

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they have no clue what is happening in gm lobbies where people are getting tilted after losing to orisa, bastion and torb comps

dim egret
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I see

vale cobalt
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people who play these heroes are also getting reported because the player they're facing is getting tilted

dim egret
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I hate these balance changes, Orisa is so Tanky now

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Torb fires extremely fast in overload

vale cobalt
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i joined jkaru's stream 2 days ago and he reported and avoided every torb, bastion or orisa player

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and muted them in vc

dim egret
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Isn’t that ban worthy, like on yourself

vale cobalt
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ban worthy?

dim egret
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Like you can get punished for that

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Fake reporting

vale cobalt
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yes too many reports may lead for your account to get banned

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awkward is sometimes doing unranked to gm and people mass report him and he gets banned

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i think he has 3-4 accs banned after unranked to gm streams

dim egret
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From what I’ve seen on twitter awkward is a bad person but I like his unrwnked to go videos

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Gm

vale cobalt
split flume
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Unranked to gms should get banned every time

rugged quest
dim egret
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Like they don’t even look at the report?

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If there’s enough they just ban the guy?

vale cobalt
rugged quest
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awkward viewers when he educationally shits on gold players with his top500 mechanics for the 20th time this month 😱 😱

weary talon
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No way!

vale cobalt
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awkward is just better

weary talon
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How could’ve this happened

vale cobalt
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cry about it

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hes built diff

weary talon
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A gm player is better than a gold one?😯😯

split flume
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Not only are unranked to gms boring as fuck, they're barely educational in any capacity

vale cobalt
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he can play the game better than everyone but he doesnt need to prove himself

weary talon
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Yeah

weary talon
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Like

split flume
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Real

vale cobalt
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it is hard

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too much going on and it's hard to explain everything the only time they can do educational gm1 game is when they watch the replay with a clam head

dim egret
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I like that video where he got 72 kills in a bronze 2 game as bap

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Made me inspire to be like him

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(I will never get72 kills on lifeweavee)

weary talon
# vale cobalt it is hard

How are you going to be educational when you can just throw and still win because you can out-mechanic everyone in gold

rugged quest
weary talon
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Yeah

vale cobalt
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:p

weary talon
rugged quest
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he was just going hog wild aggressive with his superior mechanics

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thats not educational

weary talon
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A t500 can just take dumb positions/ flank / take 2v1 only because their mechanics are 10x better than everyone else’s

vale cobalt
weary talon
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Unranked to gm are fine if you bind it with a challenge

dim egret
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Idk, I don’t usually watch all the duration of his unranked 2 gm, I watch like the first 10 minute where he explains the basic to do then jump all the way to the last 20 minutes and watch there

weary talon
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Like ball no shooting to gm

rugged quest
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😭

weary talon
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Metro cant even get gm without a challenge

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Why is he doing this lmao

rugged quest
split flume
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Metro on day 438 of his unranked to gm

rugged quest
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only ur to gm ive finished watching was lhcloudy no shield to gm

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during orisa hog meta

weary talon
split flume
weary talon
vale cobalt
dim egret
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If we had a tank that’s like a t’rex with the hit box of a t’rex with like 1300 health wild it be fair

vale cobalt
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how about cloudy's no shield rein unranked to gm challange

dim egret
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He like bites eneies

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150 damage per bite

rugged quest
vale cobalt
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is it worth mentioning

weary talon
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Widow no scoping challenge unranked to gm

rugged quest
weary talon
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Is it possible

rugged quest
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i liked it

vale cobalt
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i didnt see

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im gonna watch that shit agin

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it was so funny

rugged quest
vale cobalt
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h

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e

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is

rugged quest
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80% of games was orisa or hog that meta

vale cobalt
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built diff

vale cobalt
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wait he did this in ow1

weary talon
vale cobalt
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then it doesnt count and its easy

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u have a second tank

split flume
vale cobalt
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to cover up for ur dumbness

rugged quest
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i swear it was ow2

vale cobalt
rugged quest
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am i tripping

weary talon
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No the no shield thing

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Was 2 years back

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Or more

rugged quest
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this is 8month ago

rugged quest
vale cobalt
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oh ok

vale cobalt
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btw

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how do i vote

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is it possible to use multiple accs or something cuz ppl will abuse it

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i never voted mvp before

tacit path
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Can't be a competitive game because "pharah pocket mercy" immortal. no skill. too over high damage. need nothing to destroy all game

vale cobalt
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sounds like a skill issue

hasty hound
vale cobalt
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mvp

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it starts today

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and will be open for 1 week from today

hasty hound
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oh sick

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how we vote

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Or do u not know either

vale cobalt
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im too lazy to google it

hasty hound
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‼️

cedar oasis
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Mvp..

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I have a fear

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The clowns might do It again

tacit path
# vale cobalt sounds like a skill issue

you probably play pharah because you can't play a hero who need skill and that probably why you always get injured on game... because you play the most toxic hero and the most skilless hero

dim egret
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What

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Also genuinely a skill issue

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Pharah mercy can be killed

hasty hound
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By like a single ashw

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e

tacit path
# dim egret Pharah mercy can be killed

can't you probably don't play overwatch ... if you shoot pharah it will be healed instant and if you shoot mercy she will just run ... you need to one shot the pharah or the mercy probably you stuck bronze

dim egret
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genuinely a skill issue

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Like genuinely

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Skill issue

karmic charm
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pharmacy is not a big issue

vale cobalt
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mercy damage boost is a big issue but that duo isnt tbh

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there are more problems such as echo mercy or sojourn mercy or even ashe mercy

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disgusting duos fr

rugged quest
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(not agreeing with him)

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if you get a pharah in your team you play around her if you get pharah in the enemy team you play around her

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so boring

karmic charm
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I wouldn't say it's particularly hard to counter its just annoying

karmic charm
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oh wait I read what u said wrong mbmb

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I thought u said it was hard to counter

vale cobalt
dim egret
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I don’t like the idea of having to swap to counter certain heroes but it’s just like that

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In a game like ow thags gonna happen like it or not

karmic charm
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but yeah pharmacy is easy to counter its just annoying

rugged quest
dim egret
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Ehhh

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Echo mercy is better then PHARAHMERCY

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Why is it caps

rugged quest
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she requires by far most resources out of all dps

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you have to pick your support comp around her or lose

rugged quest
dim egret
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Sorry

rugged quest
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one is a dive hero one is a spam hero that requires alot of resources

dim egret
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Yeah I don’t like pharahmercy but it is counterable

rugged quest
dim egret
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Having to put 2/3 spots of your own team for her and having the enemy team counter swap

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Yeah

vale cobalt
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swaping heroes to counter others is the only reason there is a hero swap system and not hero lock system

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but doing that in qp or arcade is cringe but in comp i get it

karmic charm
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also the reason hero bans wouldn't work in ow

vale cobalt
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it would

karmic charm
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it wouldn't

vale cobalt
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I have a good text about that shit

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gimme 1 sec

karmic charm
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ana bap banned? gg every stable meta comp is useless

rugged quest
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if they ban rein from london its ovah

karmic charm
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it would work if hero swapping sidnt exist

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but like the game revolves around swapping

vale cobalt
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F i couldnt find it

vale cobalt
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u dont ban 2-3

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u ban 1 per team

karmic charm
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then that's useless lol

vale cobalt
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JAKE has his own system

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lemme find the video

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They fought on Twitter, so we had to get them in front of a camera. GGRecon assembled a panel of experts to talk about Overwatch balance at the highest level of competition and what could be done to improve the viewing and playing experience.

Note: The panel was recorded on July 19th, before the news on the likely future of the Overwatch League...

▶ Play video
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In the second part of our Game Balance Panel with Overwatch League professionals, the panelists discuss specific balance issues with heroes and try to come up with suggestions to make Overwatch esports a more compelling and fair product.

00:00:00 - Is Winston a problem?
00:03:27 - Why is Winston so strong?
00:12:18 - Ana is BROKEN too
00:14:54 ...

▶ Play video
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watch

rugged quest
karmic charm
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and even then, 1 per team = ana bap can still be banned = every meta comp is dead

vale cobalt
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coaches of top owl teams agree on hero bans

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and u dont 😛

rugged quest
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ban winston and it gets complicated already

vale cobalt
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meta is illari bap

karmic charm
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meta is still brig ana lmao

vale cobalt
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ana brig is not that good either

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new metaaaaaaaaa

vale cobalt
karmic charm
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and ana is meta in dive
bap is meta is rush and poke

karmic charm
vale cobalt
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alfie i know that we disagree on A LOT of things

karmic charm
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team peps coach AND rush literally confirmed it

vale cobalt
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but please watch these 2 videos

karmic charm
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rush literally said the meta is the same

vale cobalt
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shock isnt a top team now

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they dont count

karmic charm
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and team peps coach said that Winston dive is still meta but orisa illari bap is good too

karmic charm
vale cobalt
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peps is a contenders

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isnt pro

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they run bastion torb

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orisa

karmic charm
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they said owl meta , contenders teams scrim owl teams lol

vale cobalt
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on contenders

vale cobalt
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i thought u were talking about

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crusty

karmic charm
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crusty is shocks coach

vale cobalt
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he had a tweet

karmic charm
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rush is on fuel

vale cobalt
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i know

karmic charm
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rush said the meta was the same

vale cobalt
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but rush didnt post?

karmic charm
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he did

vale cobalt
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crusty did a post no?

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am i going insane 1 sec

rugged quest
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is na contenders still monkey? i have only watched eu contenders

rugged quest
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and eu contenders dont mean shit for meta

vale cobalt
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wait

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my b

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it was rush

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MAY BAAAAAAAAAADT

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for the first time i said it

vale cobalt
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are u happy

karmic charm
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yes

vale cobalt
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good :p

karmic charm
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and I can see the idea of hero bans

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I just don't like it

vale cobalt
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have you watched 2 videos?

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jake has his own model

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trust me its good

karmic charm
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no I'm at the hospital rn waiting to be seen

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I'll watch them later

vale cobalt
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alright tell me after u watched them

karmic charm
vale cobalt
rugged quest
vale cobalt
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tr33 plays sup

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zen and illari

karmic charm
rugged quest
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they usually play pretty close to whats good in owl

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unlike eu

vale cobalt
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orisa baby

rugged quest
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ohno

vale cobalt
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HAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

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doom is the joke btw

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10 sec left

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meta is this

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illari bap orisa

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bastion torb

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even in gm1 they run this shit

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kiriko bap orisa bastion torb or some fdps picks up tracer

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broken fr

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FINALLY @hot onyx

sullen berry
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ain't no way

vale cobalt
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SO GOOD

uncut drum
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That was such a fun play

dim egret
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And I assume brig is mega because ana/dive is meta

dim egret
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Heard some guy on twitter say it

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But they’re doing bastion instead of sym

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Interesting

karmic charm
vale cobalt
cedar oasis
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.

weary talon
vale cobalt
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but it comes with a cost

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brig is needed to protect her from threats such as tracer and sombra

dim egret
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Monkey is like the baby of owl I guess then?

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Like hes that good?

vale cobalt
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brig is good cuz she has a shield and can heal through shields

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so if monke dives she can heal ana even though she is inside winton's shield

dim egret
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I see

vale cobalt
dim egret
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Basically so the teams format of Winston, tracer, sombra, Ana and brig revolve around Ana and monkey specifically??

weary talon
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His bubble is borderline op

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Its the best tank cooldown

dim egret
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I thought it’d be less “as good” since it Dosent have too much health

weary talon
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And rally is really dumb

vale cobalt
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there are different ways to use nade

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the best one is to throw so monke and dpses can kill the targets after ur nade hits

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there is a second option and its to self peel

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or to cleanup kills after team fight

weary talon
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Or to throw it at your tank who’s low

dim egret
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Should Ana be nerfed?? Or is she fine where she is

vale cobalt
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the best feeling is when u throw a nade that hits ur rein and enemy rein

dim egret
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And by Ana I just mean her anti

vale cobalt
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so ur rein just hammers

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enemy rein to death

vale cobalt
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ana shouldnt be nerfed

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cuz i main her 😎

dim egret
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Grenade going from 100-60, and sniper 75 to 70, what else??

weary talon
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She got a big buff

vale cobalt
dim egret
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Oh yeah

weary talon
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projectile going from 0 to 0.1 against enemies is huge

vale cobalt
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0 to 0.1 unscoped is hugeeee

dim egret
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These projectile sizes confuse me

weary talon
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How come

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Its the diameter of a projectile

vale cobalt
dim egret
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No no I understand that part but I mean the numbers specifically

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How big is projectile size 0?

weary talon
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0

dim egret
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And what’s the difference between 0.1

weary talon
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There’s no diametee

vale cobalt
weary talon
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0 is a point

dim egret
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Ohhh

weary talon
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0.1 is a 10cm wide bullet

dim egret
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I see

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0 is basically hitscan but projectile/something like that?

weary talon
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Yeah but hitscan can also have a diameter

dim egret
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Oh I thought they were just insta hits 0 diameter

weary talon
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Iirc in first beta sojourn was kinda average cause her railgun had like 0 or close to it and they buffed it to something really wider which made her incredibly good

dim egret
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Oh yeah I wanted to ask

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Is sojourn primary hitscan?

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Or is it the other way around

weary talon
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No

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Railgun is hitscan

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Primary projectile

dim egret
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I see

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Oh btw does every projectile have drop off? Or is it just orisa

weary talon
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Most have not

dim egret
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wait nvm this isn’t the channel

formal wadi
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anyone wanna play ow2

cedar oasis
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Ew no

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That game sucks

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Ow1 better

formal wadi
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i dont have it 😢

cedar oasis
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Play a good game

dim egret
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Who should I vote??

vale cobalt
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ppl say someone

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but lip is better

dim egret
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What team is lip??

vale cobalt
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atlanta reign

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but i will vote shu

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hes the goat

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i can vote 7 times?

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wtf

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wait its only 25%

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of fans votes

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hmm

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the goat

dim egret
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Gonna vote for the prettiest person since idk snt of them

vale cobalt
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LOOOL

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vote for shu

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hes a good looking guy

dim egret
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Huh

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I just realised I barely ever see women in owl

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Are there any??

vale cobalt
dim egret
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Whoand which team??

vale cobalt
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anuyun from new york excelsiors

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onion* (aniyun sounds like onion)

dim egret
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Interesrinf, does she show up frequently??

vale cobalt
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she is kinda benched

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good ana player tho

dim egret
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Oh that’s a shame

dim egret
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Wait I’ve seen hee face before

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J think

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Is there less women in owl jusg because (I assume) there’s less women in esports???

vale cobalt
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or they take it more serious

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(don't flame or ban me for tellin the facts pls)

dim egret
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I see

vale cobalt
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ppl will call me sexists or something

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which i am NOT

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just saying

dim egret
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Has there ever been any case in owl of a disconnect/forfeit??

vale cobalt
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lol

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dunno

dim egret
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Imagine

hot onyx
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there has been in contenders but not owl

dim egret
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How are owl/contender matches even set up, custom games?

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Or do they have their own special comp system

hot onyx
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closest to forfeit in owl was the illegal manoeuvre and requiring to redo the attack round

vale cobalt
dim egret
hot onyx
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mayhem vs eternal 2022 circuit royal

dim egret
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Lemme watch

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Why is that illegal?

hot onyx
dim egret
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No no I just watched it on youtube

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But why illegal?

vale cobalt
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well...

hot onyx
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because it was intentionally bugging the games geometry to their advantage

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or something

dim egret
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So their objective was making the match boring basically

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And by them I mean owl

vale cobalt
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best warmup before scrims or pugs is to play arcade 💀

hot onyx
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tbf custa explained it best where if they allowed that move then that would mean they would have to allow other moves like it and teams would focus on breaking the maps to their advantages

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which would not encourage a higher level of play

dim egret
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I see

karmic charm
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but i get ur point

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i think its more just that ow isnt a very good community for women to be in esports

vale cobalt
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so same thing doesnt happen like last time where i got a warning cuz i called you as "he" instead of "they"

karmic charm
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💀

vale cobalt
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i don't know man i said sorry but got warning anyway

rugged quest
rugged quest
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and smaller playerbase ofc

vale cobalt
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OMG

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DPS TIME

weary talon
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Noooo

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I was so excited to see owl tonight

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Only to realize its tomorrow

vale cobalt
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dont forget

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east knockouts

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tomorrow morning

little echo
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trust him

vale cobalt
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ur in my blocked list

little echo
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imo

vale cobalt
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im just better

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😎

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my pick em point is my iq

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140

little echo
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good work

little echo
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fr

vale cobalt
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its so funny that my face didn't move a bit

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yes you should fr

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your standup should be about how NOT to do a standup

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moving on, what are you guys preds on east knockouts tomorrow?

plush grail
vale cobalt
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blizzard needs it

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money eating bosses needs money

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steve needs money

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who was the guy who destroyed owl

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was his name steve

restive forge
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sean?

static pond
thick moon
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when will the illari leauge skins drop?

hollow briar
hasty hound
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where is smurf on mvps alooksaround

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who the HELL put mer1t on there

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i guess we voting fielder lolz

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no chiyo

hasty hound
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I never realised twilight was that guy numbers wise

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DAMN

stray quarry
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where is twilight mvp...

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no boston players mvp...

stoic bronze
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Get merit and violet out

stray quarry
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love viol2t on the list but he's just not the most valuable

hasty hound
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hes not

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twilight and smurf are def mvp candidates imo

vale cobalt
obtuse lake
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how do you make the bot do the lfg vc invite? whats the command

vale cobalt
dim egret
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Todays the day woooo

vale cobalt
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very good video

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this guy's east predictions are ass tho

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what his this bullshit

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my guy thinks infernal is gonna 3-0 dynasty

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i do think infernal is going to win but not 3-0

dim egret
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I used double points boost on Atlanta vs Washington

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And I did 3-0

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You think that’s right??

vale cobalt
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yes

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atlanta will win

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and probably 3-0

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east knockouts in 10

weary talon
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Imo double points boost on the houston game is safer

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Ez 3-0

vale cobalt
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houston strong

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#anteup

weary talon
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Unfortunately

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Defiant better

dim egret
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I’VE BEEN WAITINF FOR THIS

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for like

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2 weeks?

vale cobalt
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ye

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i was analyzing everything

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lets see

sullen berry
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https://youtu.be/BdxUTBLQ3ts contenders for three hours then the real knockout matches start

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dreamy cave
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Idk how to feel about Rhodes as a team, they don't play in the east league matches right??

vale cobalt
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they will do

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they're a chinese team

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pineapple from spark used to play there before he transfered to spark

static pond
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Can’t wait to see what the meta is

vale cobalt
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meta is

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orisa, torb, soldier/sojourn, baptise, illari

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ppl run these on scrims

dim egret
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I’m so excited

vale cobalt
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:))

dim egret
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Playing

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Nvm

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Thanks emoji

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🙏

vale cobalt
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its good

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trust me

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better than sombra tracer monke brig ana meta

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its was boring

dim egret
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Ready to see it then

vale cobalt
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bionic grenade monke jumps with nano and thats it

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BECKYYYY

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THE GOAT

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RPEN THE BETTER TANK

dim egret
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OOOG

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i can’t tell if Becky is male or female

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They’re half out the screen

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Oasis

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Spicy

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I’m excited for flashpoint

vale cobalt
dim egret
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Oh my

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Oh my

vale cobalt
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baptise illari is here

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i told u

vale cobalt
dim egret
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Reaper sojourn Vs sym mei

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Insane

dreamy cave
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I'm going to say it right now. Gladiators need to force kai to play illari to get maximum value out of him

vale cobalt
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XD

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ikr

dreamy cave
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Is this a pause?

vale cobalt
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is a hs player

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he played illari

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for 3-4 games

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they're doing good

vale cobalt
dreamy cave
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When??

vale cobalt
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tr33 played illari on contenders knockouts

dreamy cave
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Wait, we're new players picked up over the break???

vale cobalt
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not 1 time btw

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he was the support

dreamy cave
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Ohhhh

vale cobalt
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tr33 is 16 so talented

dreamy cave
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Are we talking about the same thing?

dim egret
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Why does sley look like he dosent wanna be like

vale cobalt
dim egret
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Kiriko lucio

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Wtf

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WHAT IS POKER FAVE DOING

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Wtf happened

dreamy cave
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ANOTHER PAUSE

vale cobalt
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tactical pause

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:))

dreamy cave
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What is this CHEESE ITS CRUNCH TIME PAUSES

weary talon
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It was meta for last year’s grand finals

vale cobalt
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poker face running grand finals so good

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brings back memories

static pond
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Finallyyyyy some owl

vale cobalt
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i did watch grand finals 4 times

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got goosebumps everytime

dim egret
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This is fun

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That hidden guy has me cheering for poker face the way he looks at me with them eyes 🤩

static pond
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Nvm

dreamy cave
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The game is broken. Gg. Can't handle illari

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We're going to be here for 7 hours

static pond
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There 4 matches

dim egret
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BALL???

static pond
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Might be 7 hrs ether way

dim egret
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ANA WITH NO BRIG??

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Oh bye illari

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Hi brig

vale cobalt
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waffle is so excited

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did you drink a bit too much coffee or

dim egret
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Poker face is YESHEHJEKSKDKD

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I LOVE DEATHBLOSOSM

dim egret
vale cobalt
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wow

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how old are you

dim egret
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14

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Not seeing tracer sombra Ana brig Winston x2 is so cool

vale cobalt
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i don't recommend you playing it

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it's better not to play

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as an adult I can suggest you that

dim egret
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I play console nobody has time to type toxictriicty out

vale cobalt
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oh then its ok

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pc players are toxic

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just saying

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being an example adult :))

plush grail
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u are 14

vale cobalt
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im 20 buddy

dry summit
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h,,, not sure uet

vale cobalt
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too many ,,,s

dry summit
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ight boss

humble token
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Is illari even availble in owl now

vale cobalt
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and they're playing the live patch

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so she is nerfed

humble token
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Why are they not playing her

static pond
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Apac

vale cobalt
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cuz its oasis

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illari is better at open maps

humble token
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I see

vale cobalt
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and tbh i dont know

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they're apac

static pond
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Tbh I just thought because they were contenders

vale cobalt
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they run same stuff

dry summit
vale cobalt
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but this meta is chaotic

dry summit
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HI

dim egret
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I wanted to ask, why are na teams better then apac teams?

static pond
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Because

vale cobalt
static pond
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All na teams are apac players

vale cobalt
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but the meta is illari bap orisa torb soj or soldier

static pond
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Beat apac players

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Best*

vale cobalt
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more teams

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more competitive

dim egret
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I see

vale cobalt
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but the funny thing is every west team has koreans in it

static pond
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There dying in apac

vale cobalt
dry summit
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HMH ?

vale cobalt
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better coaches better everything

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more money

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more resources

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more rivals

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better environment to grow

static pond
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No point in puttying resources in owl apac

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Putting*

vale cobalt
dry summit
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hi ?

dim egret
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Poker face is basically overwatch 1 gladiators color right??

static pond
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Lol ya I just realize that

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They were purple,black and uh sliver I think

dry summit
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Hmmm vc ?

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!lfg Tank looking for team Bronze Silver
0/2 Support
0/2 Damage
1/1 Tank

static pond
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Oh there the meta

vale cobalt
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bro pokerface is winning

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wtf

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my panthera prediction is ded

weary talon
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Good for me

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I pred 3-1 for poker face

vale cobalt
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FLASHPOINT

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now

dim egret
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I really hope panthers starts sweeping

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Panthera

dreamy cave
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Americanist???

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Muze?!?!?

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I wanna see orisa

dim egret
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Flashpoint

sullen berry
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the better flashpoint map

vale cobalt
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LOOOOL

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torb soldier

sullen berry
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panthera understood the assignment

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expecting valentine torb, probably

vale cobalt
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BRIG IS bad

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lucio better here

sullen berry
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sley is good at brig

vale cobalt
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but thats not what they need rn

dim egret
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Panthera better start winning silly ass

sullen berry
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she's just going to wail at genji and lucio

dim egret
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Bless you oanther

graceful pewter
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so it seems like having a lucio is a must

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on flashpoint

dim egret
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YEAHH PANTHER

graceful pewter
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daaaaaamn 2-2 now

dreamy cave
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Lmaoooooo

graceful pewter
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the comeback from kongdu

dreamy cave
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Yo this game mode is going to be sooooo hype to watch..

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Still pretty hard to actually play

graceful pewter
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i guess you dont need lucio to win on this mode

dreamy cave
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I'm honestly surprised we didn't see any orisa. I feel like she's such a great pick for how many walls and corners there are. And using javelin gets great wall stuns

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I need to see the junkrat pick tho. And tracer I think is strong asf on this

dim egret
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Panthera can pull through 🙏

graceful pewter
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true but i guess due to the new map, both KOR team just wanted to play their comfort comp

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which is dive

dreamy cave
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How many tanks does pokerface have?? Wtf

graceful pewter
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peppi, muze

dreamy cave
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Nvm I'm tripping

graceful pewter
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boy am i glad to see flashpoint replacing escort

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escort is fine but new mode is awesome

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especially when people are scrambling to find their pathing

dim egret
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I wanted to ask axtyakkt

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Why is illari meta?

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She dosent have much utility

dreamy cave
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Mhmm. It's a great way to end a match it it ends in a 3-0 or a reverse sweep. It's good for a matches turning point

dim egret
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Is it for the damage?

dreamy cave
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Yeah. She's got decent damage to finish a target from range and her main healing is a bit of a burst heal

graceful pewter
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good sustain for poke and having good poke (sniping) capabilities

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and her beam can (maybe?) save you from dive

dreamy cave
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First captive sun ult for owl. Underwhelming

dim egret
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I see

dim egret
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It was also underwhelming

graceful pewter
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theyre facing the sunrise

dreamy cave
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FIRST EAT TOO

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This meta is pretty good. Seeing sigma in the meta feels nice

dim egret
graceful pewter
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oh yeah definitely

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seeing new comp is always good

dreamy cave
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I'm not really liking the torb pick. I can't really see the value?? Is it to discourage a dive swap??

graceful pewter
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most likely shield poke

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and to reduce of being one shotted from illari and co.

dreamy cave
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But you have 76 and soljorn...

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Plus bap and illari

graceful pewter
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he did get buff

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his gun shoot faster

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in overload and neutral

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i guess those buff were really good considering APAC is playing torb lol

dreamy cave
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I still don't think it's that hot

graceful pewter
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soujourn shield poke is mediocre i think, and i dont see players wasting rail to poke down shield

dreamy cave
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I'd rather see ash or even hanzo

graceful pewter
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yeah i would think hanzo would get some apperance

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but turret can discorage ash or hanzo flanking

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stuff like that i assume

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if you think that hero would get played, team have probably scrimmed it

dreamy cave
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Ash would fit better. With dynamite, and bob with long range damage to poke. Could be very good

dim egret
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I anger to ask something actually

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Wanted

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In whag meta would lifeweaver fall in

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Poke?

graceful pewter
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torb can also double as a shotgun character too

graceful pewter
dreamy cave
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But it's poke with bap. Wouldn't it be best to be with the team rather than flank??

dim egret
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I wanna see lifeweaver in owl since I wanna see him with team colours and that stuff

graceful pewter
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taking diffrent angles

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and turret or torb can spam those angles

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damn gg panthera

dreamy cave
dreamy cave
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Control and hybrid

dim egret
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I see

dreamy cave
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I think he played great on some hybrid maps

dim egret
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I like this mega

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Wow

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Oww

dreamy cave
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Hollywood and numbani my 2 particular favorites for him with the higheground

dim egret
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I’m eating salad with a mouth ulcer

dim egret
dreamy cave
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Agreed

dim egret
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Noooo

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Poker won

graceful pewter
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i mean paris eternal is gonna play him most likely

dim egret
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I hope my brackets aren’t destroyed

graceful pewter
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or vegas

dreamy cave
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My bracket is donezo

unique prism
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Some one need a code for a Victory pose for Reinhart?

dim egret
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I did panthera winning 3-1

dim egret
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The Arizona codes

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But no I don’t play Reinhardt

dreamy cave
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What poses??

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Just googled it. I'm good

unique prism
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Ok

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When some needs it just hit me up

dreamy cave
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I have dreamers winning this 3-0

dim egret
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I have dreamers winning 3-1

weary talon
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3-0 for dreamers

sullen berry
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3-0 fr

dreamy cave
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Just put this team into the league permanently.

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Oh wait. They can't bc its dying

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Rip

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Their throwing gg

sullen berry
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not even throwing

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this is like watching 0-40 shanghai dragons season 5 years later

dreamy cave
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Shit

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Nahhhh

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This is more like Vegas

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Sad hitting that flick headshot onto the soljorn was crazy

dim egret
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It’s 1-1 currently right?

dreamy cave
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1-0

dim egret
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I need Rhodes to win one for my prediction

sullen berry
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just one

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oh dear, how do you think XRay vs Lige is going to go

dreamy cave
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ITS HIM

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He's here

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LIVE WEAVER IS HERE

vale cobalt
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MY PREDS

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F

dreamy cave
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MY CHRISTMAS PRESENTS CAME EARLY

dim egret
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YEYEHHSHSHS