esports-discussion

[vale cobalt]

this is senna

illari = senna

[weary talon]

Hillary really does resemble senna

[vale cobalt]

i used to play senna so im happy

cuz now i can play senna in ow

😎

[full lichen]

If I'm weak and a loser what does that make you? I can probably beat your ass irl 💀

[vale cobalt]

i never talked about it but like charge was so desperate that they went pharamercy on esparanca

[vale cobalt]

sheesh

big words

[broken ibex]

Big drama in the eSports community

[cedar oasis]

Ian is 3,4 I believe you can take him bowol

[feral zodiac]

Bro is pressed

[cloud latch]

two bronze players going at it 😱 😱 😱

[plush grail]

i leg press 50kg, i will snap u irl

[full lichen]

I can squat 300 pounds in reps

And you're bragging about leg pressing 110 pounds

Also, I start my weightlifting again on Friday

And I know Martial arts

You stand no chance

[vale cobalt]

https://youtu.be/yZSL4hHIm2s

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHH

@full lichen @plush grail guys do 1v1 arena dont be chickens

im gonna create the custom game

just tell me when

[weary talon]

Discord beef is crazy

[vale cobalt]

is this real btw

[full lichen]

Can't rn, my uncle Larry died last night and I'm helping my family with a bunch of stuff

[vale cobalt]

RIP Larry o7

im sorry to hear that

[cedar oasis]

Who are you?

[plush grail]

sorry for your loss man, we'll duel some other time

[full lichen]

Yeah

[serene oyster]

😭

[tawdry hamlet]

Damn rip Larry, sorry to hear that

[tardy cave]

Larry took that L too Literally

[paper totem]

Why does San Fran play bap zen backline with Winston tracer dive

I just don’t get the logic bc bap is usually rush or poke

[latent glade]

yes I’ve heard the rocket thingy is kinda like debuff similar to orb I’m not sure if it’s completely true or not tho

[paper totem]

Wait i think I get the logic

Ow1 zen brig used to be a thing for dive. And dva could peel as well. Now in ow2 zen brig is not enough to keep zen alive. Tank can’t be focused on peeling 24-7 wiht 1 tank. So I think bap zen is so bap can field zen to keep him up as long as possible

[rugged quest]

Max was on rein before

luke changed to brig as soon as he died

[paper totem]

They started certain maps with zen bap

[rugged quest]

with winston?

[paper totem]

Yes

[rugged quest]

what map

[paper totem]

Midtown i believe unless that was the rein map I didn’t watch earlier

But on 76 they started zen bap ball

Route 66

[rugged quest]

thats exactly what i was talking about

on midtown defense where they were on winston zen bap

[paper totem]

They still start zen bap with dive

[rugged quest]

max died, luke survived

[paper totem]

Route 66 they start with it

[rugged quest]

max swapped luke couldnt cuz he didnt die

[rugged quest]

ball and winston are very different

[paper totem]

Ok but they still started wiht the comp on other maps I find it cool

[rugged quest]

you dont need resources like that on ball

bap over ana with winston is a throwpick

with ball its not that bad

[rugged quest]

Its still def an odd comp dont get me wrong

[paper totem]

It kinda makes sense zen brig isn’t enough peel anymore. Zen still blows up. Bap can keep the zen up more

There is only 1 tank and the tank can’t peel for the supports much if at all

[rugged quest]

With their situation it makes sense

theyre just trying shit out

desperation mode

[paper totem]

Zen brig is jusf a thing of the past I feel. It doesn’t work well in ow2 so if u wanna run zen u need to have another supp duo

[rugged quest]

zen just gets exploited in double flanker winston meta

in most maps

[earnest leaf]

because they aren't good enough to run the normal stuff

also I think renko was sick so that might have been why finn was playing and they ran the bapt zen stuff to play around finn more

bapt zen also makes it much harder for monkey to dive, where we saw multiple times punk would get nuked

[static pond]

Coach diff imo

O2 went from scriming dragons and Seoul at there peak to struggling against Toronto

[earnest leaf]

tbf it's also a way different roster than that o2 team

didn't that o2 roster have like finn/chiyo/bliss/mer1t/kilo/proper/max/junbin?

nvm this was their team in 2021 I think

[paper totem]

Guxe primal off the map

Like bro

[sullen berry]

O2Blast 2.0 Assemble

[stoic bronze]

Is sanguinar played in owl before

[tawdry hamlet]

Yes I think

S3 London

[paper totem]

I love that queen is seeing play in brawl

I feel like it’s usually ram 24/7

[stoic bronze]

S3 london?

The one with schwi?

[worn falcon]

Yes

S3 London was something

[feral zodiac]

Glister goat

[vale cobalt]

guys

long break

feels terrible

i want owl

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/Coach_Spilo/status/1689403682687709184?t=4tQIysRVjKrQR8stuexB0A&s=19

Spilo (@Coach_Spilo)

look how they massacred my boy

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Twitter · Aug 9, 2023, 10:30 PM

https://twitter.com/Coach_Spilo/status/1689459924143595521?t=ZCWKFcE9cEJCXpNzUk0Ajw&s=19

Spilo (@Coach_Spilo)

practicing for tomorrow's hero select screen

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[broken ibex]

This is fucking stacked

[vale cobalt]

holy fk

[plush grail]

roster goes hard, picking up these guys for the shock totally wont fuck them over

[cedar oasis]

W

[sullen berry]

I'm watching bing/chatGPT deliver cope for teams in realtime

[vale cobalt]

THIS IS NOT WAR

THIS IS LIBERATION

THE INVASION WILL SOON BE UPON US

[weary talon]

Hopefully illari will be an integral part of the meta

Pls

I dont wanna see winston sombra tracer

[vale cobalt]

same

but they will nerf and buff

half of the heroes

[rustic roost]

is there no owl this weekend

[uncut drum]

yes

not until the 26th

[vale cobalt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf-Cspr012Y

[north relic]

i will mald if illari is perma meta

[vale cobalt]

after 1 hs HOLY FK

its OP

HEALIING IS OP

[north relic]

fuck this

another support with an 100 hp hs

[vale cobalt]

its 110

75 body shot

[north relic]

it looks a lot harder to hit than kiri at least

[vale cobalt]

op healing

heals 1 to 100 in 1 sec

[vale cobalt]

ye

its hitscan

HAHAHAH

[north relic]

ok this hero is fun

[vale cobalt]

bro

the knockback is 8 sec

i was expecting 15

[north relic]

ok at least ult

doesnt look that good

unless its another 30 second support ultimate

whats the range on heal

if i had to guess its probably zarya beam or hook range

but its fucking hitscan

this hero might be in double sniper

or poke

i also really need to know her strafe and hitbox

[vale cobalt]

she might take ana's spot

that this is insane

[vale cobalt]

IT DELETED ROADHOG

[north relic]

she seems easy to dive

[vale cobalt]

wdym not good ult

its op

i might change my main

this shit is op

[north relic]

they literally headshot hog 4 times

[vale cobalt]

it gives discord

effect

[north relic]

looks easy enough to dodge on most mobility heroes

~1 tracer blink radius

also you need to be fairly close to use it

and imagine fluxing as sigma on 200 hp

except you cant really hide behind cover

also its 1 target

also easiest dva ult eat in the game

does it go through shields

[hasty hound]

THEY BROUGHT BACK 4 OW LEAGUE SKINS AFTER THEY SUSPEND MY ACCOUNT WITH ALL MY TOKENS????

I am so fucking done with blizz

10 days

[sullen berry]

Atlanta/Charge Rock Climber Zarya is so real

[full lichen]

I just read the patch notes

I am going to make a prediction

For next meta

It's gonna be Orisa, Bastion, Possibly Torb or Sojourn, Kiriko, and Lucio

Winston, Sombra, Tracer isn't gonna be used much due to Sombra getting hard nerfed, and Winston got slightly nerfed

If dive is played like, I feel like Dva is just a better option rn since she got a decent buff

More mobility and immunity after demeching

Mainly the mobility part

[chilly mauve]

Ong

They did nerf sombra ana brig

But I’m still kinda concerned about tracer

[vale cobalt]

BRO

ILLARI IS OP

I HAD FULL HP I GOT BLOWN UP

[chilly mauve]

yeah just watched Illaris ability

It’s very strong

It could be very dangerous with something

Like

Kiriko illari

[vale cobalt]

bro

illari is

meta

literally

[uncut drum]

the drone is very good

i cant guess meta at all rn

but on flashpoint after a few games it feels like it will be rush

[jaunty delta]

i did her ult into orisa ult and got a 4k 💀

[flat path]

why did they buff dva

[flat path]

shes just a another broken support we alr got 3 of em

[hasty hound]

4

[bitter marlin]

more dps that can heal a bit

trow in some cc while at it

[rugged quest]

I looked at patchnotes and didnt really see anything meta shaking

did i miss something or are we seriously getting another season with sombra tracer winston

[sullen berry]

you have a new hero, but it won't be like lifeweaver

[bitter marlin]

torb hammer buffed

[sullen berry]

most important

[bitter marlin]

owl ready hero now

[sullen berry]

for the esports bm

[rugged quest]

ofc shes a whole another conversation

[rugged quest]

?

[bitter marlin]

if she is meta then comps wil base around it

does hack stops the drone? or can it heal trough hack and then turn around to2 shot sombra and win the duel?

[rugged quest]

how did winston get nerfed

dps remained the same

but its better for finishing a target with faster charge

[chilly mauve]

Winston is legit the same

Right click is nothing

[rugged quest]

yeah lol

[chilly mauve]

sombra barelt got nerfed

Only 15% increase in Ult

[rugged quest]

15% more emp and tracer unchanged

[chilly mauve]

And life weaver tree not getting amped

that’s it

tracer the same

[rugged quest]

saying that winston tracer sombra "wont be used much" is a bad take

[chilly mauve]

Ana did get nerfed but not that big

The only thing I see that could change meta is

New hero new gamemode

Ramattra did get buffed

[rugged quest]

If anything winston might lose a bit of his massive lead in pickrate

but saying that he wont be played much is streetching it

[full lichen]

His recovery time after the secondary fire got increased

I've been playing him

[rugged quest]

So? he charges it faster now

dps is identical so it wont affect poke

and faster charge up is better for finishing an 1hp target

[full lichen]

It affects in the moment stuff tho

I've been seeing if it does actually affect him, and in situations, it can affect teamfights

[rugged quest]

thats some placebo stuff then

logically you cant call it a nerf

its same or better in situations where its mostly used

finishing up a target and poke

[full lichen]

You can, the faster charge still doesn't make up for .5 seconds extra for the recovery

[chilly mauve]

It makes no difference

[rugged quest]

its 0.05 lol

[full lichen]

In some situations it does

[rugged quest]

cmon man

be realistic

[chilly mauve]

No it doesn’t

[full lichen]

I've already been in this situation first game I played as winston

[chilly mauve]

Not in owl

[rugged quest]

XD

placebo

[full lichen]

💀

I used my right click then got ran down while still in recovery

[rugged quest]

Its same dps you get ran over anyway

idk why youre dying on this hill youre smarter than that

[full lichen]

I have the Floridian education system 💀

[stoic bronze]

Is sombra still meta

[chilly mauve]

Maybe

Depends

from my eyes illari is gonna be meta

she has good value offensively

And good peel

but sombra is still probably gonna be meta

she can hack illari (basically free kill)

[earnest leaf]

I think if she's played she needs a full anti-dive comp with her

because winston/tracer will eat her up

[chilly mauve]

I feel like brig illari can do a lot

Not with Winston tho

if illari is gonna be played

I don’t think Winston will be a good option

[stoic bronze]

Cant wait to test illari out

Her kit is insane

[vale cobalt]

torb is op

that fire speed is crazy

the made an op hero more op

[static pond]

brawl comp sounds like she be part of

[old helm]

Rob can you please just fucking stop for like 2 seconds

[static pond]

idk u

[uncut drum]

Nah not with brawl

[hasty hound]

illari zen on poke?

[sullen berry]

ilari brig perhaps

even with the shield nerf

[stray quarry]

mayhem gm says illari is getting highest dmg ez

the sunjourn meta begins

[stoic bronze]

Illaris damage is not that high

Its like 4 shot

[topaz coral]

at least from what i can tell sombra is basically unchanged isnt she?

since no owl team is playing weaver anyways

[balmy wolf]

idk if this is the right channel but do they ever do discounts for the OWL merch

[vale cobalt]

we discuss everything

but since owl took a break we're talking about the recent casual events and new hero

guys im certain of it. illari is gonna steal ana's spot in the OWL. illari is too op. she is a dps disguised as support. that ultimate charge pace and the damage is ridiculous. i dont even want to talk about the healing output. as a ana main i feel sad.

but finally we got a hero that shakes the meta

after dogshit lw

[civic sandal]

In comp I got 4 wins 3 loses in diamond but I also got 2 ties idk what ties do are they like loses or something

[heady silo]

Is there a single player that could be called the greatest dps main

[balmy wolf]

well do you have any idea if they do discounts or not?

[vale cobalt]

not sure

[balmy wolf]

Wait…no owl today?

Shit

Fuk

[vale cobalt]

lol

they're on a break my friend

[warped hedge]

kai is overrated

bottom 5 hitscan this year for sure.

[vale cobalt]

whaat

his widow is insane

are u crazy

did u see what he did on gibraltar

as window

[heady silo]

Window

[vale cobalt]

yes window

.<

[vale cobalt]

profit

[warped hedge]

lukemino's junkrat is the goat

[weary talon]

Tbh

Most of owl’s hitscans are on a similar level

Theres less skill difference between the top and bottom than there is for main support for example

[balmy wolf]

will the atlantic mercy skin go away in 4 days

[mossy zodiac]

Fuck blizzard bro i grinded the shit out of comp and i dont get any comp points

for what ?

I dont fucking know

Now they reseted my rank in mystery heroes and it was fucking plat 1

[mossy zodiac]

Idk but the vault got mercy hope u get it

[warped hedge]

competitive mystery heroes lol

two things that should never be put together

[sleek moss]

lf players who want to take comp seriously💵

[tidal marsh]

wrong and racist

[stoic bronze]

Very racist

They're talking shit about my people

[mossy zodiac]

I mean i played it because i was bored of season 5 and idk why i did it

[languid osprey]

Why tf do you have to pay for story missions

[chilly mauve]

Because

Nothing in life is free

why tf u gotta pay for groceries 💀type question

[weary talon]

Invoking the e sport scene of a game when giving a critique of gameplay and monetization and content delivery is just dumb

How do these people think

[hasty hound]

bro just compared a neccessity to overwatch pve

[chilly mauve]

I mean to some of the people in the community

Pve is a necessity

Part of their daily life

To find every social media post on overwatch and say

I like the part where zen said “experience nothingness” and nothingness with pve

Smthing along those lines

[balmy wolf]

I know none of these teams

[toxic sapphire]

I need to eat Overwatch 2 PvE to live. If i don't get nutrients from the milquetoast battle dialogue and the knockoff avengers assemble shots, then I will die

[vale cobalt]

HUH

F

https://youtu.be/S58-mf62k84

0:35 FLORA AND ALPHAYI DOUBLE PULSEBOMBS HOLY FK

[cedar oasis]

L

[dreamy cave]

Mods??

[vivid sundial]

yeah ban that pls

[dreamy cave]

@south panther

Sorry to ping

[uncut drum]

lol muted

[dreamy cave]

Bruh tried to message me.

After

Smh. It's always the crazies

[full lichen]

What happened?

[icy kestrel]

Will flashpoint be played in league?

[earnest leaf]

yes

[fleet portal]

Someone wanna be friends and play games like ow2,valo,cs dm me

[chilly mauve]

why in overwatch esports tho

like wouldnt #overwatch or #overwatch-serious be better?

[chilly mauve]

this patch will be played on owl

for the last couple of weeks and then playoffs

and from what we know

illari is putting dps numbers on the stats

viol2t shu SZN BBY

itll prob be shu on illari

and then smthing like a lucio for viol2t

[static pond]

Ngl watching flashpoint sounds boring

Walking simulator

[chilly mauve]

maybe

its kinda hard to see how itll play out

in owl

[static pond]

Imagine watching Vegas

[chilly mauve]

ive only seen junkertown

the map

honestly

there can be some good stuff

but yeah

walking is an issue

flanking on that map is insane

its crazy

[static pond]

Ngl I got lost juntertown

Lmao

Trying to flank

[chilly mauve]

yeah its quite big

bigger than what i had invisioned

but i imagine

[static pond]

The other map is kinda the same I think junkertown bigger tho

[chilly mauve]

owl will be nothing like our normal qp games

[static pond]

Lucio

And uh

[chilly mauve]

illari lucio

is my prediction

[static pond]

Ya

Same

[chilly mauve]

ram brawl

most likely too

its hard to get sightlines to heal

with ana for winston

atlanta in shambles 💀

[static pond]

Ya the new character just does more now

High damage while having a turret heal your team

[chilly mauve]

when the winston 1 trick team realize they cant play winston in the playoffs

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-scared-woah-gif-17718938

[static pond]

Ye gator needs to coach

[chilly mauve]

rascal

gator aint doing shit lol

[static pond]

Fr fr

[chilly mauve]

its honestly

not the teams fault

[static pond]

They just lost a good analysis too

[chilly mauve]

donghak just doesnt know how to play ramattra or rein

[static pond]

Wizard

[chilly mauve]

he feeds every single time with his ult

they do have hawk

i keep forgetting about him

[tawdry hamlet]

Gator needs to dust off the keyboard and play rein clearly 😤

[static pond]

Apparently hawk can cover the rest

[chilly mauve]

like he did in the 2021 finals

[static pond]

He’s a good ram too

[chilly mauve]

ik he has a good ram

and queen

and dva

[tawdry hamlet]

Off the map

[chilly mauve]

and sigma

and zarya

[chilly mauve]

ong peli carried that team

peli and iris

[static pond]

Hadi living in his head rent free

[tawdry hamlet]

2021 when players would just press the shift button on rein for lols

[chilly mauve]

u know what i hate

[tawdry hamlet]

I think pelican iris carried and nobody else being as good at one specific comp carried as well

[chilly mauve]

even tho danteh was the tank that took us to playoffs in 2022

i hate it

we got robbed

of the best dps trio

danteh peli merit goes hard

too hard i must say

danteh sombra tracer

peli genji reaper

[tawdry hamlet]

It is really funny how being stupidly good at nothing except for Mei Cass rein can elevate potato rosters to wins at pro level

Odyssey for example

[chilly mauve]

merit all hitscan

and then peli and danteh share echo mei

peli danteh merit trio right there

best dps line in the league in 2022

if only danteh didnt go to tank :(

[tawdry hamlet]

Imagine a world where former dps mvp fleta played dps

[chilly mauve]

fleta washed

like

try to create a dps meta

that those 3 cant play

[tawdry hamlet]

Washed, but surely better not on tank

[chilly mauve]

its crazy we got robbed of that

only if we had piggy in his true form that season

or any other tank

[tawdry hamlet]

It is weird how jjangu and muze just got deleted from owl without a second thought

[chilly mauve]

jjanggu went into military

no?

[static pond]

Ye he started losing interest in owl around ow2 owl

[tawdry hamlet]

I thinks

[static pond]

Not Having the game not to play in his free time didn’t help

[chilly mauve]

i better see danteh on dps

for team usa

[static pond]

Piggy also retired

[chilly mauve]

ik that

but i meant

[tawdry hamlet]

Why did diem come back and retire again this year on support

[chilly mauve]

like piggy at his true strength

in 2022

on the outlaws

[static pond]

Prob quick money

[chilly mauve]

he was always good

but coordination didnt seem the same

[little echo]

that was not piggys peak

lol

first half 2021 bro was popping off

[chilly mauve]

u right

but he didnt know

[little echo]

also he single handedly carried throwmac in cn contenders in 2019

[chilly mauve]

how to play winston

and main tank

back then

[tawdry hamlet]

Do you guys think the hybrid fire roolf linkzr roster would beat the malthel Paris roster

[chilly mauve]

no

that vancouver team

[tawdry hamlet]

Was cursed lmao

[chilly mauve]

is prob the worst team assembled

[static pond]

Honestly imo ya

[little echo]

the one with teru changsik was not the worst team assembled

lol

[static pond]

They actually had a pretty decent tracer

[little echo]

you had the valiant squad putting their best offtank on ms, their 2nd best dps on ot and their best mt on coach

in 2021

[chilly mauve]

Ngl I don’t remember anything about that valient

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk the malthel Paris roster still won na contenders like 2 times with a 14 year old main tank, linkzr was checked out, changsik hadn't played in two years and on 200 ping,

[static pond]

Don’t think na contenders had many competition?

Thought there best team was atl academy team

[little echo]

early 2019 lge huya roster is still so funny

[tawdry hamlet]

All the Paris members had won na contenders or gotten second to American tornado for like a year straight in 2020

[static pond]

Ah

[tawdry hamlet]

Remember when they decided to finally sign diya and do team cc in owl but way after team cc was prime

[little echo]

also that t1w team from 2019 was 2021 valiant but with chinese assassin and a couple other cool players

[tawdry hamlet]

How did we get nohill coaching piggy with meme dps haker coach Jmac and then lengsa and Molly all on one team lmao

It's funny pre 2020 owl rosters always look so weird in hindsight

Like the LA Gladiators in 2019

[little echo]

haker was not a meme dps

for a while

he was the most prominent sombra player by far

in cn contenders

for a while

like not close

during sombra goats

and other comps that were played

[tawdry hamlet]

I know I call him meme dps now because he was a streamer signing for lav

Who never played

[little echo]

the thing that made him a meme on valiant was that he was

1. a streamer
2. had taken a 2 year break before the signing
3. his last competitive result (actually the first thing he did off the break before being signed to valiant as well) was getting disqualified from od on a team with m1ka

idr if that was the cn or kr mika

[tawdry hamlet]

They also had giga Chad 2.5 million dollar lawsuit Krystal

[little echo]

oh it was korean mika

the one from 7

[tawdry hamlet]

I am sick
Sees gf instead

Or no it was sick relative or something right?

Funny regardless

I miss seominsoo

That social media account carrying his legacy forever lmao

Thinking about surefour decay void being a real owl roster at one time

[static pond]

Was that glads?

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah

[static pond]

Oh when they beat Dallas?

After the trade lol

The decay widow

In contenders was decay a hit scan or fdps?

[stray quarry]

piggy retired

gonna miss him

[weary talon]

He’d been out of job in two months anyway

[vale cobalt]

when

[balmy wolf]

Why the fuck are some owl team icons locked?

[stray quarry]

he sent a message to his discord

he plans to serve in the military

[vale cobalt]

sheesh

[vale cobalt]

:))

[stray quarry]

lost another overwatch player to mandatory service 😔

[vale cobalt]

profit goes soon :((

[uncut drum]

yeah

he wanted to say till he was 28

so till season 10

but after the league will be over he most likely will go

[balmy wolf]

What

[hot onyx]

nooooo now who will be the most overrated player in the league

kid named Striker

https://tenor.com/view/serious-sam-serious-sam-wide-walk-gif-17780385

[vale cobalt]

hahaahahahah

"overrated"

wake up bro hes he goat

[hot onyx]

he hasn't been the best in his role since s1

that's not goated

[uncut drum]

That is like Messi

Dude was good

Then bad

The a teir

Then close to s

And now he is gone

[snow tulip]

o

[hot onyx]

Messi has always flip flopped between the greatest and great, Profit has had one season as the greatest and has been insanely inconsistent in every other season

[little echo]

It’s like if messi won a ballon d’or and then turned into david luiz the rest of his career

ok I’ll be generous turned into pogba the rest of his career

[vale cobalt]

most mvps

east region

and west region

combined

and ur still saying hes not the goat

[little echo]

if you think match mvps are consistently accurate at all one of two things is true

1. you don’t really pay that much attention to the games besides killfeed and popoff moments (most owl viewers so its w/e)

2. you don’t really understand how skill expression interacts with the team environment and presents itself

[uncut drum]

Ana you do know potm does not count to anything

[vale cobalt]

potm means he popped of during that match

and performed good

[uncut drum]

That means nothing in a overall thing

[little echo]

potm means you had a couple of popoff moments and appeared in the killfeed a good amount

not you performed the best

[uncut drum]

And the caster vote for it

I think

Or did they change that

[little echo]

if we were handing out potms for best performance it’d be like 1. void 2. hanbin all time

[little echo]

yeah

[cedar oasis]

L

[weary talon]

When was messi ever considered bad

Like bad for messi standards or something

[uncut drum]

Did you not see

[wispy yacht]

cant believe you called messi (the goat) bad

and then compare messi (the goat) to fraudfit 💔

viol2t clears so hard man

[cobalt hare]

[uncut drum]

i didnt say bad

but he did go down a level

[regal bough]

How long do we think until scrim leaks

And why is it going to be defiant or shock to leak it

[earnest leaf]

I've been hearing of some scrimbux coming out but it's very early

don't think we get any actual scrim codes since they have their OPR accounts to scrim on

[lament gale]

who's best player?

[rugged quest]

tough to say

[lament gale]

I think hadi

[rugged quest]

Hadi does his rein niche rly well but has been feeding on any comp thats not brawl

[lament gale]

true bro

[rugged quest]

So hes probably the main reason why their rein brawl is so strong but hes also a big reason why they are very mid on dive

its a double edged sword

[lament gale]

FACTS

[regal bough]

Backbone

Or landon

[earnest leaf]

their best player is either landon or sparkr imo

[rugged quest]

Honestly all of them are on a similar tier

[dim egret]

How many teams are there in owl rq?

[full lichen]

Yeah, they're all like B tier players

Hadi is B tier on Rein, and F on everything else

[rugged quest]

With how little competent reins there are in the league rn he has to be like A tier rein

he is one of the best in the league

its just that rein gets heavily outclassed rn in 90% of maps

[full lichen]

Lol

[cloud latch]

london's best player is def sparkr

[full lichen]

I'd say Landon and Sauna give him a run for his money

Sauna was real good by himself, but doesn't have the synergy with the rest of London, I think that's why he isn't playing

[rugged quest]

Synergy aside i doubt he is better on mei than backbone who is legit elite on mei or better on sym than sparkr since sauna has no experience on sym

if the rest of the team was flexible enough to play, meta sauna would be playing

[full lichen]

Mayhem played him a few times on Sym and he was actually doing pretty good

Haven't seen his mei

But Sauna's tracer is actually really good

[rugged quest]

when?

[full lichen]

Beginning of the season

Can't remember exactly when

[uncut drum]

pro am

[rugged quest]

im 90% sure he hasnt

[rugged quest]

didnt he play tracr in pro am

[full lichen]

He has, on control maps

[rugged quest]

hes been on mei

[full lichen]

I remember him on Sym

[rugged quest]

ive watched every game of his

hmm

[rugged quest]

my memory says that he got 1 map in pro am where he played tracer and fter that he has gotten lijiang twice where he played mei and reaper

[full lichen]

I remember sym on Lijiang like twice

[rugged quest]

i checked his player profile and he didnt have minutes on sym

44sec total

[full lichen]

Ahhh

[sullen berry]

I'm rewatching Gladiators vs Outlaws

I can't believe how big kevster's backpack must be

funnyastro's brig came in clutch as well

[vale cobalt]

this has gone too far

[full lichen]

I need an address

I just wanna talk

[vale cobalt]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/gaming/overwatch-2-is-the-lowest-rated-steam-game-of-all-time-with-87000-reviews-counted-so-far/ar-AA1fcgUp

87K

https://twitter.com/yeHHH/status/1690440003334156288

Albert Yeh on Twitter

Overwatch getting review bombed on steam is like the most obvious thing. Are we really going to act surprised that a game people have loved to hate on publicly for years is getting review bombed on release? Plus the people that "hate" the game the most play it daily.

Twitter · Aug 12, 2023, 7:07 PM

HAAHAHAAHAHAAHHHA

[vale cobalt]

sure buddy

[full lichen]

Trust

[vale cobalt]

btw guys

piggy's twitter is gone

[stoic bronze]

Banned?

Or deleted?

He might just want to get away from ow entirely

Maybe because of the toxicity in charge and owl wont be there next year

Finding a job might be better

His twitch is still up

[sullen berry]

don't think so

man's headed for the military

he says his english is bad

but after watching Donghun's Washington Justice interview, there's plenty of korean talent with with a solid understanding of english, indirectly because of Overwatch

[shrewd veldt]

I posted about this on Twitter but I think i should also put it here. I have this idea that if the league does shut down after this season which is a very real possibility

I want to put out the idea

That the league gathers past and present players

And makes a video commemorating the path of the league

Every deep moment and nervous moment since the beginning

[uncut drum]

Won't happen

Not enough budget

For them to do that

[stoic bronze]

Knew it

Sad to see him go

[hazy gorge]

Anyone knows why I cant save predictions in east knockout a and b?

[restive forge]

Na

Does anyone know if they’re adding more special skins to the owl shop after this shop reset? Like hog skin or lucio or tracer all stars etc

[wispy yacht]

i dont think so

vault ends aug 16, owl shop in game resets same time as well

[hazy gorge]

I don’t think the vault started yet

[wispy yacht]

it did

they rereleased all stars mercy, jjonak skin, shock doomfist and the widow skin from 2021

[hazy gorge]

Idk

[wispy yacht]

alongside reign and charge recolors for the rock climber zarya skin

[hazy gorge]

But I’ve seen ton of people say on play-offs or after

[wispy yacht]

most informed owl viewer:

[hazy gorge]

Dawg💀

[wispy yacht]

they literally announced that it's 10-16 💀

[hazy gorge]

Where did they?

[wispy yacht]

any social media platform ever

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1689716370827587585?s=20

Overwatch League on Twitter

‼️THIS IS NOT A DRILL ‼️

The Vault is now open with your favorite #OWL2023 skins! Grab Atlantic All-Stars Mercy, Ange de la Mort, Zen-Nakji, and Thunder Doomfist in your shop from August 10-15.

Twitter · Aug 10, 2023, 7:12 PM

[hazy gorge]

Ah thank you

I’m really hoping for goat brig and dragon Sombra

[restive forge]

unlucky these coin inflation prices giga stomped me

i was able to buy the zen skin tho thankfully

[wispy yacht]

i magically spawned

900 tokens

[restive forge]

u have no idea

[wispy yacht]

so i bought the widow skin

[restive forge]

my brother randomly had 3K coins added to his account

no giveaways or funds added and he didnt watch enough owl to get them

[wispy yacht]

me and your brother eating fr

idk why either

i had like

[restive forge]

just a random 3K when he watching maybe 200 of those

[wispy yacht]

170 tokens

and then after a day i checked back

872

i didnt even watch any owl streams

[restive forge]

yeah it was weird lmao

he called me at like 3 am wondering if i had bought them 💀

[restive forge]

he usually leaves them on in the background while he designs stuff on photoshop so maybe it was a bug?

and since he watched alot he got alot and since u watched little u got little

idk

[wispy yacht]

nah

this game is just ass i fear

[restive forge]

need it to be ass for me

immediately

you two are eating whilst the poor (me) and starved (i keep forgetting to watch owl) continue to dwell in hunger (I have 49 coins)

[warped hedge]

in a couple of months will this channel even exist

[wispy yacht]

yes

esports will still exist, just not in a closed bullshit franchise format

[warped hedge]

cuz like what? we gonna talk about valorant esports 💀

[wispy yacht]

death of owl is the best thing to happen to the competitive scene imo

shit would've never worked

[warped hedge]

i mean there will be tournaments in sure, but nothing ever like a league

[wispy yacht]

ever

[wispy yacht]

it shouldve always been that way

[warped hedge]

eh. it would've worked without covid

[wispy yacht]

no

without covid wouldve killed the league before season 5

every single team would've lost money from homestands

[restive forge]

Theres always gonna be overwatch esports

[warped hedge]

the first season every team was based in Anaheim.

that was always the best format

[wispy yacht]

season 3

[hot onyx]

Fusion homestand was packed as fuck, and don't ever underestimate the chinese fan base

[wispy yacht]

was terrible

[warped hedge]

yeah s1-2 were the best seasons format wise.

[wispy yacht]

just because 4 teams have good homestands doesn't mean the other 16 will too

[warped hedge]

like having every game live

[hot onyx]

Washington had a big showing too

[restive forge]

Idk they definitely rushed the franchising

It can work but lets give it some time

[wispy yacht]

who the fuck is gonna be pulling up to the london spitfire homestand when they can just watch the premier league

[hot onyx]

i'm using the homesteads that were actually played as a standing point for what would've been

in hypotheticals

[restive forge]

Selfless vs rogue overwatch world league champs absolutely nobody says no

[wispy yacht]

if blizzard just ran it like valorant did their open circuit tour

it would've been much easier

and better

[restive forge]

If blizzard ran it like the CWL we woulda been fine

[restive forge]

like lets be real no non ow/val esports watchers know the vancouver titans

They know luminosity tho

[stray quarry]

malthel is now running a mlm and I wish that was a joke

https://twitter.com/saiyangodfps/status/1690587551370018816?s=46&t=tIk8pwmqDaa2X2LA1rAXhQ

saiyangod on Twitter

contacted out of curiosity, and got invited to some temu brand hustler's university focused on exploiting OF models.

Twitter · Aug 13, 2023, 4:54 AM

[hollow briar]

When is the next league matches

I was surprised we got none this weekend

[sullen berry]

what

and just play on the new patch blind

[wispy yacht]

they come back after next week

so end of aug/early sept

[hollow briar]

Oh thx

[hollow briar]

Yes lol

[static pond]

https://x.com/malthelow/status/1690482077894909952?s=46

This sounds so scam like

[vale cobalt]

XD

[weary talon]

Its an mlm

So yeah

It is one

[static pond]

Wait wtf I didt know kalios hit the max sr in rank

[vale cobalt]

mathel is cooking

[vale cobalt]

he did

5k

[balmy wolf]

What’s the reason owl stopped playing till the 26th?

[cloud latch]

patch maybe?

not sure

[vale cobalt]

break

and new patch

[balmy wolf]

From what

[vale cobalt]

they need time to get used to the new mode aswell

• new hero will bring new playstyles

[balmy wolf]

Wait, flashpoint will be added this season?

[vale cobalt]

owl

yes

[balmy wolf]

No way

[vale cobalt]

they will be competing

in flashpoint

• new hero too

thats why theres a break

[balmy wolf]

I thought they’ll start playing on the new patch after season ends

[vale cobalt]

looool

sadge

[balmy wolf]

Oof now I’m excited

[vale cobalt]

if it was the case then they wouldnt take a break middle of the season

[balmy wolf]

I wanna see what high level play looks like in flashpoint

[balmy wolf]

I mean they took a break for World Cup

It was the middle of the season

We’re kinda in the end of the season tho. MSM is the middle part

[vale cobalt]

cuz of the owl yes?

world cup matches played when owl was on break

[balmy wolf]

So they get two breaks a season?

[wispy yacht]

nope

the amount of breaks varies

bc the fucking format changes every season

they will go from peak formatting (season 5) to dogshit (season 6) for zero reason

[full lichen]

Lmao

[weary talon]

Tbh

[vale cobalt]

spring stage ends --> world cup begins --> world cup qualifiers that will play on offline (LAN) will be decided --> summer stage takes a break because of the new map + hero

[weary talon]

They shouldn’t take a break bc of a new hero

[vale cobalt]

they took a break bz of map

mostly

[wispy yacht]

if owl formatted their season properly they never would've had to

[chilly mauve]

oh shit

It’s Ggs for the league

https://x.com/akashoverwatch/status/1690765008001523712?s=46&t=xafMU7djA2tZMbExjj_PoQ

For context

Varuna said meta is looking like orisa bastion illari

and now akash is saying that it’s orisa bap illari and the rest is map orientated

meaning

We are gonna have

Shu bap

Viol2t illari

[tropic herald]

Bastion in the meta

impressive that the devs managed to make a 0 skill meta
dont even call this salty cause its legitimately true. you see teams like glads shock and reign dropping maps and series to teams that should never be able to touch them and its really the only conclusion you can come to
🧐

[chilly mauve]

I mean they don’t choose to make metas like that

They just buff characters that don’t see that much playtime

Or good success

[north relic]

shock?????

Bro

Orisa meta

[tropic herald]

Bro forgot the pasta

[north relic]

I’m going to sleep

[north relic]

Ik it’s a pasta

I don’t really see how people think orisa is fun

[tropic herald]

Explains why goon put fits on support

He was prepping the team for Illari

This is why goon is the goat

[north relic]

they have an ana otp though

[tropic herald]

Dw creative can do Bap

[north relic]

also I’ve realized illari fire rate is actually too fast

[chilly mauve]

Agreed

She can just walk without getting punished

[stray solar]

So who does it look like will make it to the finals?

[chilly mauve]

Boston, Houston, Atlanta (maybe depending on Hawk)

Maybe mayhem

[north relic]

Spinning isn’t fun it’s a less skillful dm

Javelin is pretty easy to hit so it isn’t exciting

[chilly mauve]

Yeah and it’s also not fun to play against

[north relic]

and an orisa meta is literally

2 titans

[chilly mauve]

U can’t do headshots

It feels as if u do no damage to orisa

Unless u have bastion

[north relic]

and the ult also has no skill involved

[chilly mauve]

Ult is brain dead

[gloomy pulsar]

When is next Owl March?

Match*

[chilly mauve]

The only purpose of it is to gather all the players for illari to click q

[chilly mauve]

Check the website or the app

[north relic]

That thing is huge

It’s as big as orisa suck

[chilly mauve]

Yeah but if the bomb goes off next to each other

That’s a lot of damage

[weary talon]

Cause like

[rugged quest]

https://twitter.com/YiskaOut/status/1690779027605266432?s=20

Yiska on Twitter

Not jinxing it but as of right now but after having talked to 10 OWL teams the one thing that seems certain is that Sombra is dead.

Twitter · Aug 13, 2023, 5:35 PM

lets fucking goo

praying thats true

https://twitter.com/hh_varuna/status/1690762009791377411?s=20

varuna on Twitter

orisa bastion illari seems to be being played a lot in scrims from what i’ve heard 😭

Twitter · Aug 13, 2023, 4:27 PM

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-cyberpunk-anime-david-cyberpunk-edgerunners-tears-gif-26728517

[north relic]

yippee what a cool and fun meta

[uncut drum]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[north relic]

if Winston tracer isn’t meta there are heroes that shouldn’t be strong as they are

[uncut drum]

FUCK HER

[north relic]

I rather watch sombra for 10 years straight than two stages of orisa bastion

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/edx_ow/status/1690762742045528064?s=20

Edx on Twitter

@hh_varuna London ain’t going to have a good time

Twitter · Aug 13, 2023, 4:30 PM

this is true

unless you can somehow rush them down

[north relic]

orisa sounds like a hadi hero

who’s the second dps

My guess is soj/Ashe or reaper

[uncut drum]

nah

i feel like a hanzo

cause orisa burst

[rugged quest]

if orisa becomes meta there wont be a bad tank in the league

fucking braindead character

[uncut drum]

i can bet money that majed will play zen

[north relic]

I forgot hanzo was a hero

but that hero sucks

[uncut drum]

he has the burst which teams might want

[north relic]

hanzo is horrible other than those clips where jinmu 90 degree flicks a tracer or birdring rolls yveltal in valk

[uncut drum]

maybe genji

to counter bastion

somehow

but ashe is a good one to have

[north relic]

I don’t think genji will be played

blade will do nothing

[uncut drum]

i am just happy no more dive

[north relic]

dive is peak

new highlight reel will be bastion holding m1 on a whole team

[rugged quest]

I can pretty confidently tell you that dive isnt going anywhere

just less playtime if orisa is actually very strong

[hazy gorge]

Is the zen-nakji worth it? IDK WHAT TO BUY

[full lichen]

I believe that skin was made by Jjonak himself

[weary talon]

This looks like the s9mm tweet last season

I hoenstly i wouldn’t mind orisa bast illari

Because its something we rarely see

And its been now almost 2 seasons of winston tracer only

[chilly mauve]

The support line is illari and bap

Not zen

Orisa illari bap seem hard meta

The dps is map dependent

[rugged quest]

zen could be an antimeta pick

if orisa is meta and dive isnt

we'll see

[chilly mauve]

Zen over illari or bap tho?

[weary talon]

Bap id sag

Say

Zen can spam out orisa pretty

Well

[chilly mauve]

Illari zen doesn’t have the healing to sustain

Against bastion

[rugged quest]

as an antimeta pick its possible

[weary talon]

Orisa can negate bastion turret

[rugged quest]

but i def dont see most teams not picking bap in a brawl meta

[weary talon]

Like almost entirely

Couldnt we see sig

?

[chilly mauve]

that’s cooldowns

[weary talon]

Like sig double hitscan

[rugged quest]

if you read varunas tweets replies you can see him speculating that bastion could be map specific

not necessarily a must pick or anything

[weary talon]

I really dont see bastion working on circuit yeah

[uncut drum]

zen to counter orisa

[rugged quest]

if that meta is happening shock might be feasting

thats actually a good conspiracy

shock doing bad and they make fucking orisa bastion meta

hmm

[chilly mauve]

yyeah ik i saw that

thats why i said dps are map dependent

from what we know

• orisa
• ???
• (bastion)
• illari
• bap

or it could be

• winston
• ???
• ???
• illari
• ana

that support combo is dangerous with shu viol2t

like thats scary

[north relic]

lip will beat the otp allegations

[earnest leaf]

viol2t gonna pound on illari

he's a mechanic freak and that hero is perfect for him

[cloud latch]

vigilante will beat the washed up on bench allegations

[weary talon]

Already been done

Hes like top 5 on hard hitscan

[north relic]

Some guy that may have sent a message two spaces above you

Thinks lip would be working at mcdonalds if sombra didn’t exist

[weary talon]

That person is smoking zaza

Lip is the goat

[north relic]

He’s top 2 on every hero he plays

Except tracer where he is like top 7

[weary talon]

Best sombra for sure

Not even close

[cedar oasis]

L

[weary talon]

He the goat but he’s not top 2 on widow tho

Top 5

Very much

[plush grail]

dawg wtf

new support

is just a dps

with a heal on the side

[charred heron]

Leonie is süß

[cloud latch]

sh*ck fan moment 💀

[uncut drum]

i expected some

not that many

[static pond]

Wouldn’t change much some of those are tf2 players too

Some just hate the game

And company

[static pond]

Ah heard there been only 2 people that achieved that I heard

[north relic]

well you see

chinese people cant play overwatch