esports-discussion

[harsh parcel]

^

[wispy yacht]

so this season is probably the end of owl

[smoky pebble]

True, but it won't look good for shareholders I'd imagine

[harsh parcel]

<1%

[wispy yacht]

atp shareholders are like the last thing they care about

[harsh parcel]

Doubt they care

[wispy yacht]

with everything that has been happening

shareholders probably dont care that owl is dead

they're more worried about the 700 lawsuits they've had to face

[weary talon]

Back to apex?

Tbh i just want the city names/city based teams to stay

[wispy yacht]

it sucks that the city names are gone bc shit like seoul dynasty and hangzhou spark are known for their names and their colors

that's like the only downside of owl dying

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/rostonyoo/status/1682386704307752960?s=20

this was sad

the best ana

[fading wing]

tickets bought, time for the potential last owl in person 🫡

[wispy yacht]

what have i done to myself

[uncut drum]

how is profit 85 violet 88 sparkle85

what are you smoking

[wispy yacht]

smoking profit washed pack

[uncut drum]

YOU HAVE VIOLET AT 88

[wispy yacht]

he's not in his prime

[uncut drum]

huh

what

[wispy yacht]

also 88 is still very good lol

[uncut drum]

dude is one of the top people in the goat discussion

[drowsy horizon]

Stalk3r 89 is WILDIN YO HOLY SHIT

[wispy yacht]

yeah im ngl this is a terrible table

[uncut drum]

delete it

before you get more smoke

[wispy yacht]

LMAO

ill revise rn

[uncut drum]

me saving a ss yo post later

ah

[wispy yacht]

NOOOOOOO

[uncut drum]

me who cant be asked to go to canda but spent like 700 on blizz con tickets

[drowsy horizon]

HAPPY RATED THE SAME AS CRIMZO AINT NO SHOT

[wispy yacht]

okay

happy is fucking ass

i dont wanna hear it

[drowsy horizon]

BRO

WHAT WEED ARE YOU SMOKING

[wispy yacht]

no weed

happy is actually overrated asf

[uncut drum]

@vale cobalt

[wispy yacht]

fuck

you pinged the houston fan

it's over

[uncut drum]

@stoic bronze

[drowsy horizon]

HOW TF IS MAX HIGHER THAN BIRDRING BRO HAS LIKE A 2-9 MAP DIFFERENTIAL

[uncut drum]

told you

this table is fucked

[wispy yacht]

no shot you think birdring is good

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HUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[wispy yacht]

i agree max is overrated but

birdring is not amazing

NO

nah

[uncut drum]

yes

[wispy yacht]

it's gone now

fuck you

[wispy yacht]

shit

[fading wing]

i had my eye on blizzcon but the price point for tickets + travel was just too much

owl + other conventions in the city better for me

[uncut drum]

i was going their for wedding already so i was like lets go blizz con anyway

[fading wing]

that’s smart tbf

[wispy yacht]

idk anybody buying that portal pass shit

sounds terrible

$700 for priority queues or some shit

i would rather just buy a ps5

or go to disneyland

[fading wing]

that’s what i’m saying like

that’s fucking insane

[wispy yacht]

especially considering its like

blizzcon 💀

the 700 is already crazy enough for being a convention

but for blizzcon?

they would be surprised if the average person even splurged 100

[fading wing]

700 just for ticket

no accommodation or travel

[wispy yacht]

fr

[fading wing]

food

then what u gonna buy

no one goes to a con just to look

ur gonna buy at least one thing or two

[wispy yacht]

DUDE

you could just go to disneyland anaheim

[fading wing]

fr

also a flop but hey

rides

[wispy yacht]

its more fun then blizzcon

[fading wing]

$30 meals

[wispy yacht]

and cheaper

[fading wing]

true

[wispy yacht]

if you buy a one day ticket it's $104

but if you pay for food as well it's prolly like

$200

LOL

[uncut drum]

that is what i got

[wispy yacht]

one day for a single park is $104

• fast pass $60
  $164

[wispy yacht]

why

[uncut drum]

i am on a gap year

[keen abyss]

mr swaqqyy

[wispy yacht]

you couldve enjoyed a great time at disneyland anaheim with your family

[wispy yacht]

hi supa

[keen abyss]

you better revise your opinion

on my goat

[wispy yacht]

i am

[keen abyss]

this instant

[uncut drum]

i am 18 do you think i still like disneyland

[wispy yacht]

wait who's your goat

[keen abyss]

you think

birdring is the worst player

on boston

[wispy yacht]

yeah

im 17 and i still enjoy disneyland

it's a fuck ton of fun

[wispy yacht]

yes

[uncut drum]

i have gone twice

before

[keen abyss]

birdring the best player on that team

[uncut drum]

i enjoyed it when i was 8

[keen abyss]

birdring on top

[uncut drum]

then at 15 it was boring

[wispy yacht]

this is so kappa

[keen abyss]

decay is not even top 3 on that roster

i fear

[wispy yacht]

did you go with family or alone

[keen abyss]

you literally put

DECAY

[wispy yacht]

he is

[keen abyss]

at the same ranking as ZEST

and shy

[wispy yacht]

okay you see that's why im revising it

[fading wing]

yes

[uncut drum]

my family and like 20 other people

[fading wing]

i’m 27 and can still find entertainment at disneyland

[wispy yacht]

where tf did you get 20 other people are you filming a kindness content video

[uncut drum]

i have saved up a lot of money from stocks jobs and other shit i can spend 700 on a ticket even if it hurt seeing that leave my account

[uncut drum]

family

uncles aunts

cousins

[keen abyss]

WAIT BOTH VIPER AND FATE AT 85

[static pond]

?

[uncut drum]

that is why i said the table is fucked

also viper is fair

[keen abyss]

you have fate

above mn3

[uncut drum]

first year

[keen abyss]

he could be slightly higher imo he is looking insane on a dogshit roster

[wispy yacht]

viper is fair

the reason he's 85 is bc he's on a shit roster

[keen abyss]

why is fate

[wispy yacht]

and he's a rookie

[keen abyss]

above mn3

[wispy yacht]

i have nothing else to go off of

i changed fate to 84

[keen abyss]

fate has not been dragging shanghai down back to back years

just to be rated above a solid hs

[static pond]

Hs?

Lol

[keen abyss]

like i never thought the day would come where I'D be defending mn3

[keen abyss]

mn3 ??

mn3 is in fact a hitscan player

[static pond]

I’m so confused

[balmy wolf]

Guys why havent i receive all of my owl tokens but only half but instead i recieve the dva skin

[static pond]

What table are we talking about

[wispy yacht]

nothing

it doesn't exist

supa talking crazy

[static pond]

Why are we comparing a tank to a hs

[keen abyss]

you put all of these all star players

within 1-2 points of fucking DECAY

[uncut drum]

oh twice

[wispy yacht]

guys

im revising it

dw

[keen abyss]

because one of these players has been an active detriment to his roster

[uncut drum]

i want this table pinned

[wispy yacht]

no

please

[keen abyss]

and the other has been one of the reasons his roster has had marginal success despite glaring roster holes

FAITH 89

HOLY SHIT YOU ARE NOT REAL

[wispy yacht]

???

[keen abyss]

you put faith one point

[wispy yacht]

faith actually good

[keen abyss]

below zest

edison 87 😭

[wispy yacht]

nah faith has a very solid brig

88-89 is fair

[keen abyss]

wait admiral 77

i swear he isnt even a bad player

[wispy yacht]

he isnt spitfire are just super bad altogether so

[keen abyss]

SEEKER 81

YOU HAVE EDISON 6 POINTS ABOVE SEEKER

[wispy yacht]

that is fair?

wdym

[keen abyss]

when seeker has been dragging valiant from the depths to have competitive matches against solid teams

[wispy yacht]

the problem is

he plays on the valiant

[keen abyss]

and edison is literally dragging down a solid core of hanbin sp9 bliss

[chilly mauve]

Are we like doing madden ratings on owl players now?

[keen abyss]

you have proper 93

[wispy yacht]

proper has an mvp

[chilly mauve]

Proper is like a 97

[wispy yacht]

top is lip at 95

[keen abyss]

putting proper at 93 then kevster at 86

is genuinely like embarassing

[chilly mauve]

nah fielder should be top

Along with chiyo

99 club

[wispy yacht]

no shot you think kevster should be higher

[keen abyss]

??

[drowsy horizon]

i need what this man is smoking

[keen abyss]

he had to deal with babel danteh lastro kai

and yaki sombra

[drowsy horizon]

Kevster same as Teru is wild

[chilly mauve]

Ong bruh

Kevster a 93 or 92

[keen abyss]

kevster minimum 90

[wispy yacht]

nah

[keen abyss]

he is doing equal shit to decay

[wispy yacht]

not 90

[keen abyss]

when decay has a better roster in literally every single position

like not a single position is arguable

[static pond]

Kev is not 90 not with his recent performance

[wispy yacht]

kev is good but he shouldnt be 90+ imo

[cloud latch]

babel is a generational talent

[chilly mauve]

One bad stage doesn’t drop him below 90

[wispy yacht]

so generationally shit

[chilly mauve]

He’s been role star for the past like 2 3 years

[cloud latch]

@cowboy sans

[vale cobalt]

hey guys

[cloud latch]

@Cowboy Sans

omg

[keen abyss]

smurf >> marve1 (>>> on ping)
birdring >> kai
birdring > yaki (not comparable rolewise but no one else to compare to)
ljg > fastro
twilight > babel
izayaki >> lastro

[static pond]

2 years I think

This year he won’t be

[vale cobalt]

does anyone knows how much does playoff tickets costs

[keen abyss]

kevster beat florida twice with these shit teammates dragging him down

[chilly mauve]

I don’t like the double >> against lastro

it should be one

[keen abyss]

lastro has been a generational feeder

[north relic]

can someone send the table

[chilly mauve]

I’m biased

so no

[static pond]

That was last tournament?

[wispy yacht]

lastros been more played as a main support since he in brig jail rn

[keen abyss]

yeah now he has a whole new tank on insane ping

[static pond]

He had Dantah and still looked decent

[wispy yacht]

but i get the point

[static pond]

At the beginning stage no?

[keen abyss]

he's literally just a skewed downgrade on all fronts

[wispy yacht]

true

[keen abyss]

he didnt

[cloud latch]

?

[keen abyss]

glads only didnt make midseason madness

bc of lastro

[north relic]

swaqqyy tried to rank ow players out of 100

[keen abyss]

he did generational feeding in winning fights on oasis

[chilly mauve]

NOW THATS OUTRAGOUS

lastro is goat

Sbd

[north relic]

using soccer style metrics

[wispy yacht]

lastro is not the goat

[keen abyss]

if it wasnt for babel

lastro would be the worst player on that roster

[chilly mauve]

What is bro on

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/TorontoDefiant/status/1682420573467557888?t=v03rqpaTQ-eT3jYjz2pU-A&s=19

[wispy yacht]

funnylastro is a failed operation

[vale cobalt]

sheesh

[keen abyss]

the same roster with (formerly) danteh tank washed kai washed fastro

yaki sombra

[chilly mauve]

I do not stand to this lastro hate

[keen abyss]

i like lastro but he has not had a good year

[wispy yacht]

they shouldve dropped yaki or kai and let danteh play sombra

gg

[keen abyss]

he would guaranteed be worse than both of them at sombra

[north relic]

wait

[keen abyss]

hasnt played dps competitively since ow1

[wispy yacht]

danteh?

[north relic]

why is florida above reign

[wispy yacht]

2019 generational sombra

[keen abyss]

vigilante

is dragging down average

[north relic]

vigilante is the goat

[wispy yacht]

vigilante brings down the avg

[north relic]

vigilante is so good

he is better than rupal

[keen abyss]

vigilante is the reason

atlanta lost to glads

😭 😭

[wispy yacht]

vigilante is kinda fucking ass lol

[keen abyss]

i disagree

[wispy yacht]

for reign standards he sucks

[keen abyss]

but he has not proven himself

this year

[cloud latch]

bro

[north relic]

ok so hadi is higher than kevster

[keen abyss]

which isnt fair to him because he has chiyo fielder

[cloud latch]

they have like the best player for almost every position

[wispy yacht]

still a great player, but on a reign roster that's so stacked he looks like a liability

[keen abyss]

swaqqyy is a shock fan

btw

[cloud latch]

oh

[keen abyss]

proper at 93

[cloud latch]

damn...

[keen abyss]

kevster at 86

when kevster has literally been better this year

😭 😭

[wispy yacht]

thats cap

[keen abyss]

kevster had a similarly shit roster but actually won his games

[keen abyss]

junbin alone is better than any tank glads have had this year

[wispy yacht]

where's kevster's mvp 🤓

[keen abyss]

not in this season

[drowsy horizon]

Kevster has def not been better than proper this year, he got put in a pack last week by LeProper

[keen abyss]

kevster had to split the vote with shu

for mvp

[drowsy horizon]

???

[keen abyss]

it's hard to be the mvp

[wispy yacht]

nah they just weren't as good as proper

[keen abyss]

when you have the best flex support in the world on your team

you can't be the most valuable player if you have another extreme value player on your team

[drowsy horizon]

sooo....what you're saying is that he wasn't even the MVP on his own team LMAO

[keen abyss]

they were both vital

to glads' success

it's hard to say who was better

[drowsy horizon]

Also the best flex support in the world is Fielder and it isn't a convo

[keen abyss]

i don't think 'proper' is a very solid mvp

[weary talon]

Kevster kinda a sojourn and tracer two trick

[cloud latch]

wait

[wispy yacht]

but proper arguably was better than both of them

[cloud latch]

kevins 86?

[keen abyss]

when he choked every single match that mattered

[cloud latch]

wait swaqqyy how did you make this

[wispy yacht]

bro had mikeyy as his monkey last year wdym 😭

[cloud latch]

just using an owl player quiz?

[keen abyss]

and mikeyy played a solid monkey

[wispy yacht]

yes

[weary talon]

Mikeyy not bad actually

[keen abyss]

if he hits one shot on edison on route they win grands

[wispy yacht]

and then i put it into something where i can add text

[wispy yacht]

mikeyy isnt putting a scratch on fucking fearless with fielder heals

[drowsy horizon]

Bros just gonna ignore the entirety of the Houston matchup where Proper deadlifted the ENTIRE FUCKING SERIES

[keen abyss]

marve1 is a mediocre at best player on 200 ping

not kevin's fault eye em oh

[chilly mauve]

Link

[drowsy horizon]

cope harder honestly

[north relic]

checkmate is extremely overrated in this list

[wispy yacht]

to?

the quiz?

[chilly mauve]

Mhm

[wispy yacht]

https://www.sporcle.com/games/SuperAngryNinja/overwatch-league-players

[keen abyss]

also true

[drowsy horizon]

In This meta, checkmate is a top 4-5 tracer, but yeah, if we are counting their ENTIRE career, Checkmate rein brings him to 88-89

[keen abyss]

this is rich coming from a shock fan 😭

[north relic]

i can name at least 7 better fdps

[keen abyss]

checkmate is the weakest player on that team

[north relic]

yaki kevster proper alphayi zest stalker pelican

i take csw

[chilly mauve]

As much as I love peli

I don’t know abt him

[drowsy horizon]

??? me saying Proper diffs Kevster is crazy?

[keen abyss]

it was absolutely a tank diff

[wispy yacht]

rn proper is light years ahead of kevster

[drowsy horizon]

And dps diff lul

[uncut drum]

@wispy yacht i told you the table will get you smoke

[chilly mauve]

Why tf is happy so low

[uncut drum]

you have listened to me

[wispy yacht]

ik

[keen abyss]

despite popular proper meatriding that undermines the value of every player on the shock not named 'proper'

junbin is not a bad player

he is both better than marveone and not on 200 ping

[drowsy horizon]

Junbin is the GOAT and I will hear none of it

[uncut drum]

also we are so much better then you at owlel me obi and lip got striker in one

[keen abyss]

i need to stop communicating

with shock fans not named 'swaqqyy'

[uncut drum]

guess

[keen abyss]

they are all insufferable 'people'

[wispy yacht]

one guess is lucky

[drowsy horizon]

Least insane Glads fan

[wispy yacht]

aww thank you

he kinda has a point tho

[keen abyss]

shock fans are the most consistently obnoxious people in the ow community

and it is not close

[chilly mauve]

bro what did they do to u?

[wispy yacht]

proper diffs kevs

[drowsy horizon]

SIR THIS IS NOT A CONVO. PROPER DIFFS KEV

WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE PROPER OR KEVSTER ON YOUR TEAM IF ALL ELSE IS THE SAME

[keen abyss]

this would look like a very different scenario pre MM

[drowsy horizon]

PROPER RIGHT

LIKE BRUH

[keen abyss]

i take kevin 🗣️ 🗣️

[chilly mauve]

Yeah idk how u can say kevster is better than proper when proper is better than kev at every single hero

[keen abyss]

kevin has 3 titles proper has 0 idk

[north relic]

i think guxue 88 is kind of insane

[wispy yacht]

without proper shock go from projected top 3 on paper preseason to like 5th at best

[wispy yacht]

current meta he's really good

[drowsy horizon]

Fine let me use the same excuse. Proper didn't have enough support around him smh

[chilly mauve]

he one tricks tho

[wispy yacht]

but i might drop it

[north relic]

closest player in OWL to an OTP

[drowsy horizon]

See how stupid it is

Kevster not playing either Genji or Tracer just throws. Look at him try to play Echo against proper

[cloud latch]

crimzo being 1 lower than heesang is crazy

💀

[keen abyss]

BRO PUT CRIMZO AND BIRDRING AT THE SAME RATING

[wispy yacht]

birdring is still ass

[north relic]

yo based?

[cloud latch]

just filled out all players incase anyone wants to try it

[keen abyss]

he put crimzo 2 points above seeker

[chilly mauve]

Wait

Let’s clarify

Is it the whole career of the player or how they are currently

[wispy yacht]

it should be how they are currently

[north relic]

profit is 85

[wispy yacht]

if it was whole career

violet and profit are like 97

[drowsy horizon]

Also can we talk about how bro had Twilight at 86 and Faith at 89????

LIP 99 if whole career change my mind

[north relic]

im legally not allowed to praise faith

[keen abyss]

@wispy yacht you have max one point below kevster

[wispy yacht]

will making him an 88 make you happy

[keen abyss]

kevster who has been deadlifting this shitty glads roster from the pro am to MM

[vale cobalt]

play off fee

HUH

[keen abyss]

89 is a fair compromise

[vale cobalt]

dogshit company thinks i will pay 300$

[keen abyss]

what's max's map wr again

[chilly mauve]

my question is how did u rate happy at 83 lower than shockwave fits flora

[drowsy horizon]

see, this is a take I agree with

thats wild

Kevster is at least 91-92 in a vacuum

[keen abyss]

the happy take is somewhat based

slightly exaggerated

[wispy yacht]

happy 84 or 85?

[keen abyss]

85 for happy is fine imo

[chilly mauve]

happy is like top 5 on sombra tracer (as a hitscan)

[drowsy horizon]

Happy is top 3 in Sombra

[chilly mauve]

And top 5 on hard hitscans

[drowsy horizon]

top 4 sorry

LIP, Fits, Heesu, Happy

[weary talon]

Alphayi role star

No trolls

[wispy yacht]

wait let me go look at stats rq

[keen abyss]

how much of this is exaggerated by being surrounded by 4 players who are top 3 on their roles

ok that's slight exaggeration

[chilly mauve]

yeah but happy is outperforming pelican on both heroes

[keen abyss]

3 top 3 players and viol2t

who is a top 4 overall support imo

[drowsy horizon]

Pelican top 3 is wild to me

[keen abyss]

maybe

fdps is hard rn

[wispy yacht]

i dont think happy is top 5 in tracer sombra

[keen abyss]

proper kevster zest alphayi peli all have arguments for top 3

[chilly mauve]

I’m not including fdps

[keen abyss]

and stalk3r

[chilly mauve]

Only hitscans

[drowsy horizon]

Who would you put as the 4th and 5th sombra though?

Ahh tracer makes sense

but sombra is completely on Happy's side

[chilly mauve]

happys tracer is good rn

Idk what y’all r on

[drowsy horizon]

Flex DPS ranks rn are Stalk3r AlphaYi and Proper

[wispy yacht]

sugarfree shy?

might be a crazy take

[chilly mauve]

no way sugarfree has a better sombra than happy

[drowsy horizon]

Lenny is crazy but Shy is def a consideration

I put them about the same but put Happy higher because APAC is a mickey mouse region

[wispy yacht]

fair

i would say at maximum

happy is like 87

if it were me either 85-86

[chilly mauve]

Happy should have a higher rating than shockwave and pelican

I don’t see how he’s below them

[drowsy horizon]

Realistically, Fielder and Chiyo should both be 97+. Their entire career they have done nothing except dominate and they are, IMHO, the best backline in OWL history

[chilly mauve]

99

Club

[drowsy horizon]

FER

REAL

[wispy yacht]

prime viol2t 99

he would still be prime in s4 if he didn't spend the whole season learning main support

[drowsy horizon]

I think Viol2t, LIP, Fielder, Smurf, Fearless, should all be 99

Fearless maybe 97-98

[wispy yacht]

i dont think fearless should be 97-98

i would say 95-96

solely bc his monkey is like the only reason he's rated as one of the best main tanks in the game

[chilly mauve]

He has a very good rein

And ball

[wispy yacht]

he's still great at every other hero but they're far away from being as good as his monkey

[weary talon]

Super would be a 99 fr

[cloud latch]

swaqqy what'd you use to put text in ?

[chilly mauve]

I would say his rein is like top 3

His ball top 5 maybe 3

[wispy yacht]

you can use something like google drawings or canva but i used webwhiteboard

[chilly mauve]

idk much about the rest tho

[wispy yacht]

if he is 97-98 he should be top 3 on every tank in his role

at the least

[weary talon]

Smurf is a solid 92

[keen abyss]

midseason madness 2022 was not inspirational

[north relic]

they are going to go through 2 seasons

and are a top 2 backline for every stage except 1

[chilly mauve]

top 1 this stage

[keen abyss]

babel lastro fastro ?

[chilly mauve]

fielder chiyo

whats funny is teru rupal crimzo mcd all have less deaths per 10 than fielder

i didnt expect that

maybe they play far back and less agressive

[wispy yacht]

too bad chiyo dominates brig

he's #1 in every stat on brig

which is crazy

[north relic]

known healbots

[chilly mauve]

thats false

hes 2nd in solo kills

[wispy yacht]

for this season?

[chilly mauve]

OPENER THE GOAT

[wispy yacht]

oh

[chilly mauve]

yes

[wispy yacht]

solo kills 💀

[keen abyss]

OPENERSZN

[wispy yacht]

i dont have solo kills pulled up

but every other stat chiyo #1

[keen abyss]

hold on i need to look for more things to make fun of swaqqyy about

[wispy yacht]

still 0.3

[wispy yacht]

why

[chilly mauve]

opener still ahead

[north relic]

shock fan

[keen abyss]

wait skewed 90

is based

[north relic]

😆 👉

[keen abyss]

i was going to use skewed underrating to make fun of you

but i cant

[wispy yacht]

LOL

[north relic]

wait i just looked at ana stats

im telling u vigilante is the goat

[wispy yacht]

bro didnt even scroll down to deaths

now we cant see who dies the least

[north relic]

its hard to die with fixa on your team

[chilly mauve]

All time or this season?

[north relic]

idk how mag does it

this szn

[wispy yacht]

no shot that's this season

[chilly mauve]

Cuz I did not have those same Ana stats as u

I don’t even remember violet playing Ana

[north relic]

wait i had zen checked

[wispy yacht]

this is what i got

oh

yeah i do not remember vig playing ana

at all

[chilly mauve]

The only game I remember with vigi is on zen

Nqs

[wispy yacht]

what i did not expect is chorong to have 11 elims per 10

[north relic]

its ana

he probably has no playtime

[wispy yacht]

its minimum 50 minutes

[north relic]

50 isnt much

[wispy yacht]

gangnamjin sweep 🥱

this is with 0 minutes minimum

[wispy yacht]

yeah he got removed after i made it 1 hour

[keen abyss]

wait farway has such a good stat spread

[wispy yacht]

yeah he's not even that bad

fuck it im upgrading farway

[keen abyss]

farway is the only person who has a solid ranking on every stat

[north relic]

ana stats mickey mouse

unless its ridiculous

[keen abyss]

my goats 🥲

[north relic]

do not see who is #3

[keen abyss]

irrelevant shitter

boosted by birdring smurf ljg

[north relic]

also you just completly ignored fielder

[wispy yacht]

we know fielder is good

[uncut drum]

Alarm better

[north relic]

thats true

alarm would be the best at every FS hero

unironically

[wispy yacht]

ture

true

[chilly mauve]

Philly would have won a championship

If he was still there

last year

[keen abyss]

MY GENERATIONAL FLEX SUPPORT!!!

no wonder danteh was perma dead

bro got no healing

and didnt even have good pressure offensive to make up for it

[rugged quest]

Is that first week stats or?

[keen abyss]

outside of kevin

[uncut drum]

You scroll down to see the others

[keen abyss]

i usually try to if i visualize his face i lose my appetite 😨

[north relic]

?

u a cannibal?

[keen abyss]

i'm using someone else's sc

[wispy yacht]

bro isn't even top 20 healing 😭

[chilly mauve]

Now look at lastro

Aka the goat

[wispy yacht]

out of all ana's who have played over an hour ana this season, babel has the 3rd worst healing

[keen abyss]

he's better than babel but that doesnt mean shit

[north relic]

im kind of like shu

[keen abyss]

when it's babel we're talking about

[keen abyss]

shu comms

[north relic]

when you compare our healing stats

[wispy yacht]

i always find it funny that shu always has such low healing stats

[chilly mauve]

u heal on ana?

I always dps

[uncut drum]

Ah

[north relic]

my tank is very needy

(supa)

[chilly mauve]

See in my eyes

U just kill the lobby

So u don’t need to heal

[cloud latch]

oh god I'm cooking with this table...

[keen abyss]

that's what the best ana in the world (skewed) does

a talent he learned from studying shu vods

[north relic]

levi

[wispy yacht]

should i post new table

[uncut drum]

Yes

[wispy yacht]

ok

[uncut drum]

I want to see the level of how questionable it is

[north relic]

kev 88

mid table

[wispy yacht]

💀

[keen abyss]

i said 89

[north relic]

hadi is 87

[keen abyss]

at the very very least

uv at 89

is definitely a take

[north relic]

based

[wispy yacht]

nobody mentioned uv so i forgot to change him

[north relic]

UV is good

[wispy yacht]

i think uv is like

87

[keen abyss]

we should take into account visuals to an extent when rating players

[wispy yacht]

i didnt pay attention to toronto because nobody talked about their ratings

[north relic]

chorong is 90

[uncut drum]

Profit 86 after the years of work is a bit of a scam

[keen abyss]

fielder down to 70

[keen abyss]

you're right he should be 84

at best

[uncut drum]

Nah

[wispy yacht]

i think in the physical attractiveness department fielder gets a 63

[uncut drum]

I think at least 89

[keen abyss]

this takes into account his gameplay too right

[uncut drum]

Max

[keen abyss]

because he gets a 20 if it's just physical

[north relic]

63 in this system

is absolutely abysmal

[wispy yacht]

nope

[keen abyss]

still too high

[wispy yacht]

fair

[north relic]

no

you see

70 is worst contenders

on the left

that would make 60's masters players

compared to top OWL

[keen abyss]

that means fielder would be more attractive than like

[wispy yacht]

i tried to limit owl to above 70

with the worst player (being aniyun) at 70

[keen abyss]

94% of ow players

[north relic]

so its a good rating

[rugged quest]

when did you make that

[wispy yacht]

actually then yeah

[wispy yacht]

like rn

fielder should be like

32

[rugged quest]

ok your london ratings are shit

[wispy yacht]

LOL

[north relic]

hadi is way too high

[rugged quest]

hadi is feeding

[north relic]

swap hadi and sauna and its all good

[wispy yacht]

this is the first time someone has said london has shit ratings

[rugged quest]

and sauna hardcarries but is 2nd lowest rati g

[wispy yacht]

honestly

fair

i dont think hadi should be like

below 80

because he's a great individual player

[north relic]

yaki deserves the world

[wispy yacht]

i would say max 85

also nobody else talked about the hadi ratings so i just stuck with 87

[rugged quest]

irrelevant team so yeah

but NOT TO ME

[keen abyss]

off of sombra

imo

if sombra fell out of meta and glads kept danteh

they could've remained a SOLID team

[wispy yacht]

if they made danteh sombra glads win the league

[keen abyss]

i dont llike you

[wispy yacht]

okay

[keen abyss]

are you implying

yaki tank

[wispy yacht]

no

im implying

drop kai or yaki

to let danteh sombra

[keen abyss]

i feel like you need both kai and yaki

[north relic]

yaki has tank experience

he played dva in goats

[keen abyss]

he studied checkmate vods

[north relic]

not the DPS zarya

[keen abyss]

in SS 2021

[wispy yacht]

yaki saw checkmate play rein

he can diff hadi

[vale cobalt]

everyone can diff hadi

it's not even a discussion

[north relic]

someone definitely can

[cloud latch]

@keen abyss @north relic @wispy yacht I don't make the rules

[north relic]

mag 86

is too high

[vale cobalt]

whats this

[wispy yacht]

belosrea skull is too high imo

[keen abyss]

i saw birdring 91 i dont have to look at hte rest of the list you're chillin

[cloud latch]

bro

[wispy yacht]

i think belosrea needs 2 skulls

[cloud latch]

his sombra is so underrated

[cloud latch]

the skull is for the whole team

[wispy yacht]

fair

[north relic]

ill give you a list: flora too low, yaki too low, seeker too high, birdring a little too high probably 90, hawk too low, lip too high

[keen abyss]

i can already tell it is an honest list

[cloud latch]

thoughts on fixa and aniyun's ranks?

[north relic]

givens

[cloud latch]

true

[wispy yacht]

i personally think pelican and babel too high

[uncut drum]

Send the link

[north relic]

WAIT

WHAT IS CHOISEHWAN

DOING DOWN THERE

[cloud latch]

he's with charge

[north relic]

i see

[cloud latch]

unfortunately...

[north relic]

you hate my kind

[cloud latch]

I hate genji players 🙄

[north relic]

your team's FS rubbed off on you

[cloud latch]

💀

you're right

m ybad

[wispy yacht]

real talk how is babel 82

[north relic]

you hate your star

[wispy yacht]

should be 0

[cloud latch]

I love his personality

[keen abyss]

AGREE

[cloud latch]

but I do believe it's time to move on

[keen abyss]

i only have 2 flaws with this list

babel too high

mirror slightly too low

i think mirror has been solid

this year

[north relic]

i think lip 97

[wispy yacht]

i think mirror is around the 84-86 range

[keen abyss]

like 84-85

[north relic]

is too high considering the next highest is 95

[cloud latch]

it's not my fault!!!

it's sombra meta

[keen abyss]

has smurf really been a 95 caliber player

[wispy yacht]

97 lip is fair considering that lip is literally the best fucking player in the league rn by a mile

[cloud latch]

erm...

[wispy yacht]

wait wtf smurf 95 yeah

LOL

[keen abyss]

it's a genuine question

idk how to rate smurf atm

[tropic herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348939546878017536/1132014304233791549/2023-07-21_11-09-46.mp4

[wispy yacht]

you are implying that smurf has proper levels of impact rn

[cloud latch]

I think

[north relic]

you clearly dont watch boston

with your birdring takes

[cloud latch]

?

[keen abyss]

not his fault

[cloud latch]

92 for birdring?

[keen abyss]

he was in the presence of fixa

he was petrified

[north relic]

i wish i saved a pharah sleep

i think i was duo'd with levi

it was lijiang gardens

it was nutty

[wispy yacht]

thats cool and all but how exactly does that affect lebrons legacy

[cloud latch]

nothing affects lebron's legacy

[wispy yacht]

everything affects lebrons legacy

[north relic]

we are winning

[cloud latch]

[wispy yacht]

its always houstonable

[cloud latch]

that is true...

[heavy scroll]

happy overwatch

[chilly mauve]

Week 1 fluke

It always happens every year

[north relic]

houston have also had no success every year

[chilly mauve]

hey

3rd place is bronze

[crystal jackal]

Someone's dance is so amazing

[heavy scroll]

Buy the jersey before the league ends

renko is a blessing simply for maing yt chat spam 🙂 instead of winton

[cloud latch]

who's dance?

[crystal jackal]

Someone...

[cloud latch]

who?

[crystal jackal]

😔

Shit username

[cloud latch]

never gets old

[weary talon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/155qzib/piggy_update_twitch_eng_translation/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=2&utm_term=22 poor piggy

[slow lake]

yeah

Just basically a hard Winston meta for 2 years aside from Joats

And although his Winston is serviceable, Guangzhou obviously feel they can go far this season, and GA9A already looked better with 1 day of scrims this morning vs the Best team in the Region

So hard to fault Guangzhou since they wanna save money, just sucks the way the league is rn

[heavy scroll]

Valiant loosing momentum was sooo disappointing

[slow lake]

They just spammed Sombra

Circuit Royale here, probably no Aniyun today

[vale cobalt]

:)))))

:))))

xd

[heavy scroll]

love me some mercy gameplay

[vale cobalt]

VALIANT

HOLY

[north relic]

shock cant win without cringe

[vale cobalt]

IKR

[chilly mauve]

Oh fuck owl started?

[vale cobalt]

WINGSOUT

VALIANT WON

HOLY

[vale cobalt]

y

[slow lake]

Proper wtf

[vale cobalt]

icecold

[chilly mauve]

Proper: 👀

[vale cobalt]

holy

wtf

[heavy scroll]

you jinxed it lmao

[old vine]

Well good afternoon proper

[weary talon]

Proper the goat

[old vine]

This man proper said “y’all holding up my nap”

[balmy wolf]

Hi

[hasty hound]

shocl why u loosing

so sillu

[vale cobalt]

F

[hasty hound]

How proper almost live that

my joat

[vale cobalt]

VALIANTTTTTTTTT

SHEESH

[hasty hound]

seeker diff

[old vine]

Well then

[heavy scroll]

damn

[old vine]

Valiant own Lijiang apparently

[hasty hound]

proper and seeker fighting to see who can carry their team harder

[vale cobalt]

na production

nice audio

[old vine]

Welp now Val struggle until push

[heavy scroll]

Probe's overclock was cucked

[slow lake]

SEEKER GAMING

[hasty hound]

Probe did nothing last fight

[cloud latch]

seeker is NOT too high

[wispy yacht]

NO WAY

[slow lake]

What is this audio

[vale cobalt]

omg

proper

[wispy yacht]

probe had the right idea but valiant played it perfectly

[vale cobalt]

NOOO

[hasty hound]

What do the numbers mean

[north relic]

he just beating bad teams

[vale cobalt]

missed blizzard f

[cloud latch]

he almost hard carried vs florida

once

[wispy yacht]

shock wouldve won the map if they were able to speed proper out before he died

[heavy scroll]

yeah mei was was the perfect block and then everyone just disengaged, he couldn't hit anything

[wispy yacht]

but lyar booped him

unlucky

[cloud latch]

they're overalls like in sports video games

like fifa or 2Ks

[hasty hound]

oh like rating

[wispy yacht]

valiant are playing very well

[hasty hound]

wheres viper 90 rating

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/SFShock/status/1682471902433140736

San Francisco Shock (@SFShock)

https://t.co/gooYiqoDqB

Likes

119

Twitter · Jul 21, 2023, 7:25 PM

MAN

[heavy scroll]

Man

[cloud latch]

I have never seen a single shanghai game

[hasty hound]

VIPER IS THE GOAT

and heesu

[vale cobalt]

it's wild

[hasty hound]

love them

[vale cobalt]

theres a dps

called viper

he might be the rookie of the year

[hasty hound]

tbh!

[vale cobalt]

insane tracer

[hasty hound]

top 3 tracer this year

[dense wharf]

symptoms of using ur entire budget to keep proper in ur roster

[wispy yacht]

rip donghak junbin

[north relic]

if viper was NA he might get it

[wispy yacht]

viper is good but he plays on a dogshit team

[vale cobalt]

ikr

[chilly atlas]

Valiant don't lose

[vale cobalt]

they're the other candidates

[vale cobalt]

it makes him shine more?

[cloud latch]

their budget prob went crazy cause of all the o2 players they collected

[vale cobalt]

:))

[hasty hound]

Also giving stalker an 89 after his msm performance is INSANE to me

[wispy yacht]

yeah if you watch the game

[hasty hound]

he outperformed lip by leagues

[vale cobalt]

audio by na producation

[wispy yacht]

most people think viper is shit bc he plays on the shit team

[dense wharf]

marve1 my goat

[vale cobalt]

i thoght my

headphones

were

broken

[wispy yacht]

ok back to the game

valiant looked amazing on the ram rush

[vale cobalt]

i do :))

[wispy yacht]

good

bc if u watch shanghai you know viper is good

[vale cobalt]

it feels like

ur the

one who doesnt watch

and doesnt know his value

[cloud latch]

maybe stalker rank was too low

[wispy yacht]

but you wont make a good roty campaign on a shit team

[vale cobalt]

:))

[weary talon]

Is it me or is the game’s volume quiter this stream?

[karmic charm]

marve1 goat ?

[wispy yacht]

i do 💀

[vale cobalt]

you clearly dont 💀

[wispy yacht]

he is the only reason shanghai have won any maps

[chilly atlas]

we all know malthel is winning mvp

[vale cobalt]

:))

[wispy yacht]

im rating viper highly

im just saying the rest of the community wont

[weary talon]

If only viper had a team

[wispy yacht]

bc he plays on a shit team that doesnt win

[hasty hound]

Didn't viper get like 40 elims in one game against dynasty or something

[vale cobalt]

it's their mistake keep rating him high cuz he's a great player

[earnest leaf]

viper is considered a roty candidate wym no one rates him

[hasty hound]

hes pretty well regarded no?

[wispy yacht]

he wont win roty

[earnest leaf]

I have only heard good things about him

[weary talon]

Viol2t rookie of the year fr fr

[wispy yacht]

he has zero of the spotlight on him

[karmic charm]

he will be a candidate tho

[vale cobalt]

why does chat say rip alarm

[cloud latch]

I wonder who will win roty

[wispy yacht]

bc he's dead

?

[cloud latch]

he passed away and today is his bday

[karmic charm]

bc its alarms birthday and he died a few years ago

[karmic charm]

donghak 100%

[weary talon]

Profit probably

[vale cobalt]

oh

[north relic]

HS player tries hard hero

[cloud latch]

one of the greatest flex supports to ever touch the game

[karmic charm]

did it ever get said how it happened or did they keep that private

renko :)

[cloud latch]

private as far as I know

[wispy yacht]

if alarm was still here he would be better than fielder and shu

[dense wharf]

renko looks so happy to be there

[north relic]

he was too good god had to smite him

[dense wharf]

😭

[chilly mauve]

youtube chat is best

when they see renko

[wispy yacht]

only smiling player in owl

[chilly mauve]

i like this

:)

[heavy scroll]

he is and i'm happy for him

[hasty hound]

not twilight tho

my@joat

[wispy yacht]

💀

[karmic charm]

alarm clears twilight

[wispy yacht]

bro said twilight

[earnest leaf]

Alarm was the only FS that was close to viol2t when he was dominating s3

[wispy yacht]

twilight isnt even in the conversation

[vale cobalt]

did we ever figured out how he died?

[chilly mauve]

rip they were so close to tick

[karmic charm]

alarm was better than viol2t imho

[wispy yacht]

imo alarm was better than viol2t in season 3

[hasty hound]

he alr left cause hes too good 🤷‍♀️😂

[karmic charm]

was privatem no info

[earnest leaf]

on ana yea but viol2t's bapt/zen were still better

alarm brig was also better that year

[north relic]

alarm was second on bap zen and then had the best ana brig in the league

[chilly mauve]

boombox

clears

[hasty hound]

i wanna watch alarm gameplay never heard of him

[cloud latch]

he was insane

[wispy yacht]

alarm was the best rookie

of all time

[cloud latch]

so good he even kept sado in check

that's how good he was

[vale cobalt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rOcDt27ff0&ab_channel=BadPachimari

😭

[karmic charm]

i find it funny that from s1-3 , shaz had the most healing in owl

[heavy scroll]

howd val loose that

[chilly mauve]

what a hold