esports-discussion

[karmic charm]

idk

it's owl

[mortal cipher]

I mean Titans did

[karmic charm]

when ur on the ow liquipedia search banned

and it's like the 5th one I think

[vale cobalt]

go to liq

[karmic charm]

titans suspended him from the team, owl hasn't officially banned him

[vale cobalt]

houston outlaws headcoach got banned in 2019

[cloud latch]

found it

[vale cobalt]

😂

[mortal cipher]

I See wasn’t a few players suspended

[vale cobalt]

old stuff doesnt matter

[mortal cipher]

I mean banned

[vale cobalt]

neko is back

[mortal cipher]

Isn’t he on outlaws

[vale cobalt]

ye

[mortal cipher]

Ah

[cloud latch]

I do not remember neko getting banned

[vale cobalt]

he did

check it out

im on phone someone send link

[cloud latch]

Ik

but I don't remember him getting banned

[karmic charm]

I do

it was start of s2?

he was on defiant

or was it start of s1

[mortal cipher]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/a8ea00/neko_suspended_for_selling_an_account_and/

[keen abyss]

i only remember emp's name being force changed

not a ban

[vale cobalt]

spectra banned too

[mortal cipher]

Wow

Already lol

[cloud latch]

nah

[vale cobalt]

no

[cloud latch]

that was a while ago

[mortal cipher]

Lol

[vale cobalt]

its old stuff

[cloud latch]

apparently he was boosting accs when he was 13

lol

[mortal cipher]

I figured Ute Just kinda funny he’s in Toronto

[vale cobalt]

he was earning his lunch money bro dont blame him

[mortal cipher]

He was getting his milk money taken

[tropic herald]

Dude

Like every current pro

Has boosted at somepoint I guarantee

Just whether or not they got found out

[keen abyss]

not me

[vale cobalt]

[cloud latch]

frodo?

sans?

hellfire?

[north relic]

RIP ME AND YOU

[keen abyss]

he was consistently playing better than me

[keen abyss]

i was on ana

[cloud latch]

fr

[cloud latch]

skill issue

[cloud latch]

wait actually

[keen abyss]

we went even and i went down 3 ranks

[cloud latch]

I have never boosted in my life

[north relic]

sans is gm

[cloud latch]

never said you were a good booster

[north relic]

what sr was this

[cloud latch]

!!rule 6

[young fractal]

Silly 😋 😋
You need to put the number directly after !rule with no space!

[north relic]

Silly 😋 😋

[cloud latch]

!rule 6

[keen abyss]

i think i went master 4 to diamond 2

[north relic]

Silly 😋 😋

[cloud latch]

!rule6

[north relic]

Silly 😋 😋

[cloud latch]

!!rule6

[young fractal]

6 — NO RANK MANIPULATION

We do not permit the organization of boosting or other rank manipulation such as carrying, deranking, & smurfing with lower-ranked players. This includes DMs.

[north relic]

wait what

you arent allowesd to carry

[cloud latch]

wait

I'm getting banned then

[north relic]

same

[keen abyss]

nah you're both clear

[north relic]

W

[unique root]

i’m glad u finally got it

[cloud latch]

thanks jae

gotta make sure there's no boosting on my watch

[tropic herald]

Your watch sucks

[cloud latch]

maybe cause I don't have a watch

[vale cobalt]

[unique root]

so glad i don’t have to worry abt modding that then

[cloud latch]

I would look into supa tho for rule 6

[unique root]

we r investigating currently

[cloud latch]

that's good

[tropic herald]

Looking into this.

[cloud latch]

thank god I hate boosters

[north relic]

outdamaged on mercy

[uncut drum]

How the fuck did you have 11 deaths

Was this mystery heroes

[cloud latch]

it's elims assists deaths

not a real overwatch nolifer :/

[cloud latch]

here's @keen abyss actually with 11 deaths

[north relic]

thats assists

[keen abyss]

didn’t you have 10 deaths while actually trying

only 11 deaths fth only against a pocketed soldier on circuit is a solid performance

[cloud latch]

I don't believe me playing widow soldier is me trying

[keen abyss]

yeah but like you weren’t playing fth only on the most open sight lines in the game

[north relic]

!!rule6

[young fractal]

6 — NO RANK MANIPULATION

We do not permit the organization of boosting or other rank manipulation such as carrying, deranking, & smurfing with lower-ranked players. This includes DMs.

[keen abyss]

that was quickplay

[north relic]

deranking your qp mmr

[keen abyss]

??

[keen abyss]

you derank in our comp games

[north relic]

i dont

[keen abyss]

lsd mei lijiang tower

[north relic]

that was me stopping you from feeding

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I am a nolifer

[cloud latch]

only masters...

[uncut drum]

I have a gf

I blame her

[north relic]

cleared

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/NyanSox/status/1681344124157411328?t=3l_bKsSmjDmJbx_9EV468w&s=19

NyanSox💙#BLM (@NyanSox)

did samito rebrand or something?

Likes

665

Twitter · Jul 18, 2023, 4:44 PM

samito deleted his acc to do other stuff than ow

o7

[sullen berry]

He's working Mineplex since he invested in it

So he probably disabled his acc temporarily or work on rebranding ig

https://twitter.com/cowman711/status/1681404394363863071?t=1cjIIcKxA968GkKQR8q6Sg&s=19

cowman711 (@cowman711)

New Jersey 🔥

Twitter · Jul 18, 2023, 8:43 PM

Imagine LA Cowman

[vale cobalt]

🙄

[stray quarry]

newest owl video is very cool

[vale cobalt]

havent seen it

oh you mean the challange one

apparently its an old video

[unique root]

it looks like it would have been during msm

so not THAT old

[sullen berry]

I mean it was made for the Korean Broadcast during MSM but I'm happy both the changsik/rascal stadium tour and this one were translated

[vale cobalt]

i remember someone saying the one on korean broadcast were also eng subbed

[chilly mauve]

he bought mineplex

[stoic bronze]

Was samito the guy that beat the odyssey core

In world cup

[vale cobalt]

dunno

im uploading my skins of the game clip @stoic bronze

cant let defiant be #1

[chilly mauve]

yes

dude overwatch is bugged

i cant stand this delay

@vale cobalt where do u submit the clip thingy

[sullen berry]

Social media

https://twitter.com/udonity_ow/status/1673599210019766273?s=46&t=eiIR5-uMG3N03MeHyrC2_g

うどんめん (@udonity_ow)

#SkinsInTheGame
#chargeforward
#020up

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Twitter · Jun 27, 2023, 7:48 AM

[feral zodiac]

Will not miss Samito

[hasty hound]

i don't think most will

[wispy yacht]

other than his aim assist takes he was a pretty real guy

[hasty hound]

he was a complainer

and just annoying overall

[wispy yacht]

tbf during the times when ow1 was literally getting no updates he was the most vocal abt it which i respect

he genuinely cared abt the state of the game

[hasty hound]

oh well

game still sux

[wispy yacht]

real

[lone spoke]

lowkey missing corey and stratus

So depressed

[wispy yacht]

2019 world cup corey was crazy

robbed of mvp

[lone spoke]

HE DESERVED IT YWAH

instead

uhhh

SOMEONE ELSE GOT IT

but we don't talk ab that guy 💀

[wispy yacht]

yeah he like disappeared or smth idk what happened to him

this? this is cinema https://youtu.be/YE7Cfgz-LRw

literal concrete proof of corey mvp

[lone spoke]

corey deserved it he was really good

[wispy yacht]

bro absolutely demolished on reaper

even on sym

[lone spoke]

bro was robbed

he needed the mvp it was rigged fs

[quick hedge]

Hi, I am trying to get this drops on Twitch but I don't know which chanel to watch.
On the website, the schedule for theses livestreams do not seems to be correct ??
https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/pathtopro/schedule

And when I look the Programme on the Contenders Channel on Twitch, I can see I have missed the livestreams already...
When will they live again so I can earn the rewards ?

i cannot send any image to this discord channel

but basically the drops are here: https://www.twitch.tv/drops/inventory

There is something like an icon or spray Pharah, and a skin for Torb and Junker Queen

I found the campaign date here : https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/pathtopro/viewership-rewards-guide

But it does not say where and when to watch the livestreams

(I am completely news to Twitch so I don't understand the website well)

[wispy yacht]

watch https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchcontenders

[quick hedge]

Yes but I have missed the live, and impossible to know when they will be back again

[wispy yacht]

next stream should be the 24th

next week

they just finished contenders for this week

and dont worry about rewards, since the jq and torb drops end on the 26th

you have plenty of time

[quick hedge]

okey ty :)

[cedar oasis]

Twitch is a walking L

[vale cobalt]

i couldnt send cuz it was a large file

will try now

[stoic bronze]

W

[vale cobalt]

its stuck at 99%

downloaded an app

to fix it

gimme 1 sec

[stoic bronze]

Sadly, I cant save my potgs from my switch

[vale cobalt]

used h.265 and h.264

lets see which one works

[vale cobalt]

RIP

[unique root]

that’s why you get your friends on pc to download it for you 💪💪

[stoic bronze]

My friends I play comp with are on xbox

Its crazy

[unique root]

ahhh

i just record on my switch but i’d never upload that

to twitter

LOL

i wanna use one of the good clips my friend got though ughhhh

[stoic bronze]

But good news is my only owl skin is Chengdu ball so no need to worry

[hollow briar]

https://vxtwitter.com/charlieintel/status/1681654329919283200?s=46&t=ISwF-27FsqiGO7V5yQBKfw

[vale cobalt]

its still 99% im going crazy

[vale cobalt]

im too lazy to read can u summarize it

[hollow briar]

The tweet summarizes it

[vale cobalt]

thx

[karmic charm]

ggs for owl

[hollow briar]

Are grand finals in November

[hot onyx]

here i can make it easier to read

[hollow briar]

Or is it actually in September

[hot onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/save-me-subway-surfer-gif-8039370

[vale cobalt]

F

[plush grail]

tl:dr owl is fucked

[vale cobalt]

wow so good

[plush grail]

orgs which try to cut costs at every corner and dont want to do shit for owl

have to vote on if they wanna stay

[hollow briar]

They’ll definitely say no

[karmic charm]

honestly will be good for ow esports

[uncut drum]

https://esports.gg/news/overwatch/overwatch-league-on-verge-of-ending-after-grim-activision-financial-report/

[hot onyx]

shock can leave and the league will be whole again

[uncut drum]

good bye

[hollow briar]

Well

ABK owns mlg

Maybe Microsoft can try it again but with mlg in mind

[karmic charm]

maybe we actually get like

[hollow briar]

And cheaper

[karmic charm]

dreamhack , esl events etc

[uncut drum]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/19/23799550/activision-blizzard-esports-layoffs-overwatch-league-owl

sean miller is optimistic

lol

“I’m actually very optimistic about the future of Overwatch esports and the competitive ecosystem,” he said. “We are doing all we can to make the player experience and the fan experience one that people want to return to, want to be a part of, and get excited about to turn on.”

[vale cobalt]

sean miller and jared neuss are both jerks

i hate both of them

jared nauss doesnt queue up comp cuz he knows he will be mad

he literally said that

what a good executive producer

[uncut drum]

jared has nothing to do with owl

“There was no warning,” they told The Verge via email. “This was a complete shock to everyone, and none of us who were laid off were offered any opportunity to switch roles or teams.”

The former employee worked in esports operations and had the perception that everything within that department was going well.

“The team had obviously shrunk over the last few years, and esports as a whole has been struggling lately, but we were seeing record viewership and lucrative sponsorship deals for our Call of Duty League tournaments,” they said. “Overwatch League didn’t seem quite as successful from a viewership perspective, but we saw more success than ever with our OWL skins [promotion] and our side leagues, like Calling All Heroes.”

The former employee shared that Blizzard was sunsetting some of the tools used to run its tournaments and that, before being let go, they were working on a new tool to replace those being shut down.

“In my eyes, they are completely unequipped to internally support anything esports after that.”

“As far as I know, that [tool] is still planned to be terminated in the coming weeks, and our replacement wasn’t finished, so I can only speculate that Activision Blizzard is closing its esports division,” they said. “They may be able to keep a skeleton crew on to close out the OWL and the World Series of Warzone seasons in the next few months, but in my eyes, they are completely unequipped to internally support anything esports after that.”

As Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision Blizzard looms, Miller’s optimism for the future of Overwatch esports contrasts heavily with the grim picture painted by the now-former employees who made Overwatch esports possible.

“I can’t really fathom what the benefit is to lay people off when your company is posting record profits and your stock price is quite literally capping out with a looming acquisition,” the employee said. “This move isn’t helping the shareholders, it’s not helping the business, and it’s not helping the remaining employees.”

the mian person you blame for this shit is bobby

[wispy yacht]

bobby kodick is the reason we are here in the first place

[uncut drum]

^

[wispy yacht]

honestly though i would love to see the swap and step away from franchised esports

[uncut drum]

if microsoft dont fire him

[wispy yacht]

it's very hard though

[uncut drum]

fucking replace him with anyone

[wispy yacht]

because there are some teams like hangzhou who have a fanbase that only knows about hangzhou

[uncut drum]

ok not anyone

[hollow briar]

The idiots that did all that stuff primarily from blizzard

Coke said “uhh no”

[wispy yacht]

they dont know that hangzhou has a parent company

[hollow briar]

What other sponsors did they have

T-Mobile?

[uncut drum]

mac

[wispy yacht]

they had statefarm and that tech company for a bit

something watson

[uncut drum]

Over the first season, the league acquired over US$200 million in sponsorships and broadcast rights; major sponsors included Intel, Omen by HP, Toyota, T-Mobile, and Spotify, with most deals valued at over $10 million.[58] During the break before the start of the second season, the league announced a multi-year partnership with Fanatics as the league's outfitter to make and sell team- and OWL-related clothing and other items.[59]

[wispy yacht]

and now they have none of these 💀

[rugged quest]

downfall of owl 🥳

[hollow briar]

And they lost like all of it once the scandal happened

[uncut drum]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/ozh8cr/a_list_of_owl_sponsors_that_have_exited_or_pulled/

[hollow briar]

At least they had Butterfinger right?

[wispy yacht]

LMAO

i love seeing butterfinger being plastered upon the walls of eichenwalde a

[rugged quest]

this is very exciting

cant wait for new ow esports scene

one frame block

the dude who sent that to cloudys server said it himself

[wispy yacht]

he one framed dva bomb

[vale cobalt]

sureeeeeeeeee

[wispy yacht]

?

[vale cobalt]

hes awful in general

does nothing useful

only eats money

[uncut drum]

you think he eats money have you heard of bobby

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/epsilon_ow/status/1681667096323686400 @stoic bronze

the video was on much better quality but couldnt upload it for some reason

[feral zodiac]

Overwatch league is a financial disaster??????

No way!

[split flume]

goodbye owl

you were okay

[wintry kraken]

time to spend OWL tokens then ? 😄

[uncut drum]

yes

looks like we wont get a fuel champion skin

[wintry kraken]

2195 tokens on my main account 😄

[tidal marsh]

i kinda hope owl goes back to the names of teams rather than cities

[split flume]

https://fxtwitter.com/UnterOW/status/1681667278511697924

[plush grail]

kevster burgers gonna be hella mid

[dark hedge]

https://twitter.com/owcavalry/status/1681668761001025536?s=12

Rip owl lmao

[graceful pewter]

Man

[grave python]

Then my dream is (probably) over 😔

[tidal marsh]

time to watch contendies

[cedar oasis]

Ew

[graceful pewter]

Bright side to this, no more franchising

All owl players will probably either quit but the majority of them will just go to contenders

Although now contenders will have to work really hard to advertise themselves

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/R3L3Jeff/status/1681682891724722177?s=20

[vale cobalt]

guys delete owl and rebuild an orginisation that gives a fk about owl players & fans

it will be good if owl is gone

contenders cant be the main stage btw stop those pipe dreams

like ml7 said on stream, if owl is gone it will open up opportunites for big sponsors

they can just create tournements that actually is rewarding in case of money & entertainment

we also need more offline tournements btw only world cup or grand finals is being played offline (and some east region games such as dynasty vs. infernal)

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/FLMayhem/status/1681686115839881216?s=20

[vale cobalt]

valiant vegas spitfire 100% agrees to cash out

[karmic charm]

getting rid of franchising will help ow esports so much

[vale cobalt]

their losses are so big

[karmic charm]

most teams will

its a net loss for everyone

besides maybe shock

[vale cobalt]

like i said before, it will be good for rebuilding

[karmic charm]

create a regional format like other t1 esports have proven to work

which allows for a healthier t2 ecosystem

teams arent in crippling debt paying for a franchising fee

more orgs will be interested

more event organisers will be too

franchising actually fucks over so many things

[vale cobalt]

why cant ow be like league? i used to be a high ranker league player and we had offline matches all the time with fans

i know that theres a distance diff between states but like they can fly i dont care

online matches isnt fun at all

[uncut drum]

nope they are also in a loss

[karmic charm]

league has been going for 12 years now

riot puts so much into their esports

and their franchising system has only really worked in eu

t2 China, Korea, NA are kinda dead

Well not kinda, are dead

realistically, valorant has the best esports format rn

[chilly mauve]

Ggs league

[karmic charm]

being partnership over franchising

riot pays valorant teams to play

rather than the teams paying to play

[vale cobalt]

are u sure?

[karmic charm]

t2 na in league caused lcs to nearly get entirely cancelled

[vale cobalt]

i played league for 7 years and were a esports fan and u say u are sure

[chilly mauve]

Esports in general is not profitable

[vale cobalt]

sure

[chilly mauve]

That’s the simple answer

[vale cobalt]

good 1

[uncut drum]

it is

matters on the game

lol is

val maybe

[chilly mauve]

not in the long term

[karmic charm]

lcs literally had the biggest esports strike ever because of riot abandoning t2 na lmfao

this year

[vale cobalt]

cuz its more popular game

[chilly mauve]

Val is pretty recent like compare that to owl s2 or whatever

[vale cobalt]

ow is ded cuz we dont have hero bans and unbalanced patches

[karmic charm]

hero bans wouldn't help save owl tho

hero bans wouldn't increase viewership

[chilly mauve]

yeah

[vale cobalt]

ok fk hero bans

[chilly mauve]

That shit was a pain in s4 and 3

[vale cobalt]

how aboug

not overpowering heroes

every patch

[chilly mauve]

that ain’t the real issue

[vale cobalt]

why does meta changes

[chilly mauve]

The real issue lies with blizzard and how they treat their game

[vale cobalt]

after every fkn patch

[karmic charm]

how about actually advertising the league and investing into it and making sure the players and teams are happy

[vale cobalt]

jq goes from 40% winrates to 55+

nice one blizzard

very good game

[karmic charm]

that's not an owl issue

[chilly mauve]

That too

[vale cobalt]

i didnt ssy it is

listen

[chilly mauve]

But I also think it’s hard for a normal viewer to understand what’s happening in owl

[vale cobalt]

if u make the game playable

more plsyers will come

and eventually watch owl

thats how it goes

[karmic charm]

ppl still won't care to watch it tho

bc it's not advertised at all

it's literally just a token farm atp

[chilly mauve]

It’s sad to see the league go

[vale cobalt]

fix the op characters, do some advertisements for fk sake and keep a good care of fans and players of owl

[karmic charm]

it's v hard to watch ow esports bc so much is going on

[vale cobalt]

then dont play

ow is not easy

[karmic charm]

????

[vale cobalt]

theres too much going on

its not like league or valo where u look 1 place

[karmic charm]

there's a difference between playing and watching esports

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/jakeow/status/1681690575467331584?t=YeEqcMwAvWDQPwM5N9kpAA&s=19

my guy jake said it F

[fading wing]

“fix the op characters” is probably the funniest advice for owl i’ve heard

[unique root]

☹️

[vale cobalt]

?

[fading wing]

it is

[vale cobalt]

fix them

[fading wing]

is that esports related

[vale cobalt]

it is cuz it will make ppl play the game and eventually watch the pro stage

[fading wing]

not really

[vale cobalt]

sure buddy

[chilly mauve]

https://twitter.com/ggdoa/status/1681679073624436737?s=46&t=xafMU7djA2tZMbExjj_PoQ

The league may be dead after this

but it may be for the better

[vale cobalt]

its ded

[karmic charm]

league and val have busted as fuck characters and they get like consistent 300k+ on a bad day

[fading wing]

just because people play the game does not mean they have the slightest interest in watching pro stage

besides

half the shit you see about people complaining about op heros it’s just brain rot

people say orisa is OP still to this very day

[vale cobalt]

lol

they will

[karmic charm]

but they won't, bc they haven't for 5 years

[vale cobalt]

i hate ppl who abuse op heroes are u one of them

[fading wing]

pro play and ladder are very different

[karmic charm]

owl viewership has been on a decline since stage 1 2018

[fading wing]

i play fucking torbjorn

[vale cobalt]

cuz game was shit

[fading wing]

the game wasn’t always shit

[karmic charm]

league is shit too, worlds 2022 got over 5 mill viewers peak

[chilly mauve]

another reason is owl doesn’t do anything to bring in new viewers

Other than drops

[karmic charm]

owl is lucky to get 50k

[chilly mauve]

Why should a new person care about owl

[karmic charm]

drops doesn't even work anymore

[chilly mauve]

ong

[karmic charm]

as an incentive

[vale cobalt]

[fading wing]

why would a new person care about owl, why would a ladder new player care about watching monkey comp

[vale cobalt]

https://www.youtube.com/live/ygQ1zpdwLfg?feature=share

[fading wing]

not another pod cast

[chilly mauve]

Overwatch is also declining too

Since ow2 dropped

Nothing good has been added to the game

or will be added

[fading wing]

it will never be as flourishing as it once was

[karmic charm]

owl has worse viewership than fucking r6s now 💀

[fading wing]

but it will always have a fan base

[chilly mauve]

ME

I’m that fanbase

[fading wing]

it’s one of those games now that people will come and go like a revolving door

[karmic charm]

owls highest viewership was no joke 2018 stage 1 finals

not even 2018 playoffs topped it

[fading wing]

i go back to work

but fixing “op heros” for ladder casuals is funny

for owl

[vale cobalt]

why am i trying to explain someone who cant see the next step

i should block this person aswell

[karmic charm]

bc ur point doesn't help owl

[vale cobalt]

tired of this crap

[karmic charm]

u block everyone who disagrees with u

[vale cobalt]

i block everyone who has a opition that doesnt have any mean anything at all

gd

owl is ded any ideas on how the next pro stage will be?

any thoughts?

[chilly mauve]

Regionals

[vale cobalt]

like NA EU ASIA

?

[chilly mauve]

Yeah some what

Somebody will host these small tournaments

[vale cobalt]

LCK, LPL, LCS, LEC works so good i would love if ow had that too

[karmic charm]

vct is a better and healthier format

league is franchising, which is exactly what ow needs to get a away from

[chilly mauve]

The day the league does

Imma go rewatch all the best matches we have had

so I need suggestions on which matches

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/rupalzaman/status/1681695108423471106?t=ZMBeFa1hXlnTYRfDH3_FpA&s=19

[karmic charm]

stage 1 finals 2018

nyxl vs spitfire ^

stage 1 2 3 finals 2019

eternal vs fusion 2020 summer showdown

fuel vs dynasty 2018 stage 1

uprising vs spitfire, fusion vs nyxl 2018 stage 1

2018 playoffs glads vs spitfire, nyxl vs fusion, fusion vs spitfire

2018 stage 2 semis, fusion vs spitfire

I can't think of any others from memory

[chilly mauve]

Okok thx will come back to this

[north relic]

wdym kiriko was added

i love kiriko!

[cedar oasis]

L

[north relic]

every s2 stage final
2020 houston boston
2020 apac MM

[chilly mauve]

i love 2020 apac mm

[karmic charm]

what was stage 4 s2

i forgot

[chilly mauve]

its just the audio is delayed

[north relic]

didnt exist

[chilly mauve]

and its fucking anyoying

[north relic]

reverse sweep

[karmic charm]

this is embarrassing

LMAOOO

[vale cobalt]

can someone send anime opening ow version made by jeff clarke

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/sugarfreeOW/status/1681705640354525185

lenny (@sugarfreeOW)

@g8r you can play sombra for the titans this block gotta fill my application

Twitter · Jul 19, 2023, 4:40 PM

[wispy yacht]

who's surprised

owl gone next season, best thing to happen to ow esports

only thing ill miss are the owl team skins because they have some sick colors

but open circuit is so much better for this game

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/g8r/status/1681706018261155840?s=20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygQ1zpdwLfg

[vale cobalt]

gator is a gigachad

[tropic herald]

https://vxtwitter.com/_mlktea/status/1681706819310473216?s=20

[uncut drum]

what is t4 again

[vale cobalt]

ik

[uncut drum]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/krisholt/2023/07/19/blizzard-games-are-coming-to-steam-starting-with-overwatch-2/?sh=342b23be21e3

[vale cobalt]

HUH

[rustic roost]

welp

goodbye owl

i feel bad for the players

[rustic roost]

unironically collegiate

[cloud latch]

team 4

the dev team

[karmic charm]

open circuit probs

[rustic roost]

tf is open circuit

[karmic charm]

3rd party organisers will finally be able to have their own tournaments again

[rustic roost]

oh

[karmic charm]

kinda like csgo

[rustic roost]

nah its prob collegiate

for at least the provisional future

[karmic charm]

i doubt it bc collegiate is basically only NA

[rustic roost]

so was owl

p much

[karmic charm]

owl was p much all korean

?

[rustic roost]

the teams were all na

[slate siren]

No team will accept that 6m fee except the shitters

[karmic charm]

what ?

[rustic roost]

the teams were all based in na

a lot of players r gonna go to collegiate

[karmic charm]

" keep playing and lose money or take 6 million if u wanna leave "

theyll take the 6 mill

[vale cobalt]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

SAY its garbage

comment

asap

[karmic charm]

what

[vale cobalt]

ow2 is on steam

[rustic roost]

what

so what

[karmic charm]

yeah

august 10th

[vale cobalt]

?

[rustic roost]

i dont get it

[vale cobalt]

have u read

twitter

recently

[rustic roost]

yes

[vale cobalt]

good

[rustic roost]

still dont get it

what does it being on steam have to do with anything

[vale cobalt]

the irony is

they're killing the game

and adding it to steam

thinking ppl will play it

the need to do better advertisements not platform change

i will give them 0

and write very bad reviews no matter what

[karmic charm]

its not a platform change

its still gonna be on bnet

[vale cobalt]

wtf

then why add there

[tropic herald]

its prob bc

[karmic charm]

steam will probs give more players

[tropic herald]

every other actblizz game is on steam

at least

the bigger ones

are

[vale cobalt]

fingerscrossed

[tropic herald]

i think it might also have something to do with some legal ruling potentially dont quote me on this

[slate siren]

You don’t understand…

[karmic charm]

then explain ?

[slate siren]

Can’t rn

🤫🇦🇷🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇫🇷

[karmic charm]

how is taking the 6 mill to leave worse than continuing to lose a shit ton of money

[tropic herald]

you have to understand however

6mil is not all that much

compared to what some of these teams put in

[karmic charm]

its better than continuing to lose money

[tropic herald]

it will be interesting to see what they consider fair payout

[karmic charm]

like

vegas will 100% leave

valiant spitfire

probs nyxl

glads

[rustic roost]

florida

vancouver

[karmic charm]

dragons

dynasty

defiant

justice

i can only maybe see reign outlaws shock infernal spark voting to stay

[tropic herald]

defiant surely will not make another awful financial choice

[vale cobalt]

custa tells what i said

[karmic charm]

maybe uprising

[tropic herald]

https://fxtwitter.com/yeHHH/status/1681717361580158976?s=20

[heavy scroll]

okay

what is going on on owl today

[karmic charm]

https://tenor.com/view/death-spongebob-smile-rainbow-gif-15431174

[vale cobalt]

its gone

deleted

ow coming to steam

[plush grail]

VEGAS ETERNAL 2024 BABEEE

[vale cobalt]

thats the summary

i agree with avrl

[plush grail]

also now i have to add people on steam and they can see that i have 300 hours on bloons tower defense 6

[karmic charm]

maybe the only vegas fan ever isnt that bad

[plush grail]

i am quite based

[vale cobalt]

💀

[heavy scroll]

this is sad ;-;

saw Jonathan's tweet

[jagged cargo]

rip overwatch league, gg

[vale cobalt]

houston outlaws will be forever in my heart

https://tenor.com/view/houston-wins-houston-outlaws-victory-winners-stage-gif-20199387

[jagged cargo]

let's talk again in 50 years

[vale cobalt]

#anteup

[jagged cargo]

i sure hope pros make their own lil tournaments

something like the stuff osu has idk

[vale cobalt]

rupal said

i should've played valorant

thats tough

[jagged cargo]

he aint wrong

[karmic charm]

3rd party esports organisers will likely come back to ow now

[jagged cargo]

that would at least be SOMETHING

[vale cobalt]

HUH

[jagged cargo]

it's a rythm game, which has TONS of player made tournaments

one of the best just happened earlier this month

[jagged cargo]

was fun to watch tbh

[jagged cargo]

medical test? what is this about?

[vale cobalt]

hes a man city fan eww

[karmic charm]

https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1681701127224713217?s=20

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/JakeSucky/status/1681654713002131456

Jake Lucky (@JakeSucky)

Overwatch League will be offering esports teams a $6 million termination fee if they do not agree with an upcoming operating agreement to continue the League or not

This could be the end of the Overwatch League...

Likes

6013

Retweets

287

Twitter · Jul 19, 2023, 1:18 PM

[vale cobalt]

pog

ima Ochocinco

fan now

[jagged cargo]

okay I have 2 braincells, so pls dont flame me, but what does this have to do with a medical test?

[vale cobalt]

the league is ending

right

[jagged cargo]

yes?

[vale cobalt]

so he's making a joke about him being signed to man city

[jagged cargo]

Oooooh now i get it

[vale cobalt]

cuz boston has the same colors

[jagged cargo]

slow ahh brain xd

[vale cobalt]

:))

[jagged cargo]

thank you!!

[vale cobalt]

you're welcome

[jagged cargo]

let's just hope the actual game has a bit more life in it

[karmic charm]

not much

ow is the only activision blizzard game that is declining

[vale cobalt]

haahhahah

benbest goated

[vale cobalt]

it's coming to steam

MAYBE we get more players

i love seeker & twilight interactions

[coarse aurora]

this is dead

OWL as we know it will be dead

[vale cobalt]

correct answer!

[coarse aurora]

I hope others step in and bring us an amazing pro circuit

[full lichen]

There's only 1 way OWL doesn't die and that's if all the team owners vote to keep OWL

[full lichen]

Agreed

[jagged cargo]

lmao

[coarse aurora]

Name one reason as to why they should decline 6 Million Dollars

[jagged cargo]

they wont

[vale cobalt]

#bringbackregions

[slate siren]

HEY GUYS DO NOT SAY THAT THE OWL WILL DIE

No team will sign the deal except maybe Valiant & Vegas

The shitters

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇫🇷🇫🇷

[vale cobalt]

make it like league

eu na korea

[full lichen]

Ye

[vale cobalt]

stop the korean domination

it's not fun

[coarse aurora]

I want regional splits and tournaments inbetween

[vale cobalt]

the team is called boston uprising but there are just korean players

like wtf

i get that they're good

but it's a na team

[coarse aurora]

And one grand final global tournament

[vale cobalt]

why do they have only korean players

[coarse aurora]

I want invitationals and circuit-play

[vale cobalt]

i like boston

but its just facts

[vale cobalt]

ikr

lec, lck, lcs, lpl

[slate siren]

https://twitter.com/zenofymedia/status/1681710167576936461?s=46&t=hegAuIT3v2kta7HmtVkNqw

Zenofy (@ZenofyMedia)

When all else fails... slap a 2 on it 🙃

Likes

547

Twitter · Jul 19, 2023, 4:58 PM

[vale cobalt]

like in league

[coarse aurora]

[slate siren]

Let me land…

[vale cobalt]

💀

[jagged cargo]

ye

[slate siren]

Ok? I don’t see the issue in that

[rustic roost]

im excited for collegiate to have its one year of spotlight

[vale cobalt]

ok buddy

keep beliving

[rustic roost]

while t1 gets back on its feet

[jagged cargo]

they are just bleeding money at this point...

[vale cobalt]

doesnt getting money from it

[rustic roost]

https://twitter.com/twilight_ow/status/1681723092555448335?s=46&t=gWyLZx9F6Cxgff_7e-oMVg

Twilight (@Twilight_OW)

HERE WE GO🚨🚨🚨🚨

Ju-seok Lee has concluded a verbal agreement with Manchester City and will conduct a medical test soon🚨🚨
#MCFC

Likes

333

Twitter · Jul 19, 2023, 5:50 PM

[vale cobalt]

that's all

[rustic roost]

LMAOOO

[vale cobalt]

ik

[jagged cargo]

wait holup that means that the skins are gonna be gone

[rustic roost]

yup

[jagged cargo]

thats an actual emergency

[slate siren]

Bruh only the shitters known as Vegas will sign this deal

[rustic roost]

coping so hard

lmao

[slate siren]

Not cope

[jagged cargo]

yea but if they're gonna sell them for the premium currency, it's not worth is

it*

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/Steam/status/1681722033162584064

Steam (@Steam)

Overwatch 2 is coming to Steam on August 10th with its biggest content drop ever!

https://t.co/DB5U0Vr5EA

Twitter · Jul 19, 2023, 5:45 PM

[rustic roost]

every single team is at a net loss

they will drop

[slate siren]

Just facts

[rustic roost]

vancouver and florida players already talking about what theyll do post league

same with atlanta coach

end of owl

shit sucks

[jagged cargo]

insane exposure for the game, but if they have to make such a "desperate" move, that says a lot about the current state the game is in...

[rustic roost]

???

[slate siren]

Jokes

[rustic roost]

gang what

its not a desperate move

its a smart move

[vale cobalt]

OW2 ON STEAM

XDDD

[coarse aurora]

Imagine this:

• 3 splits per year (fall split, winter split, spring split)
• do a round robin in these splits to qualify for split playoffs
• winners of split playoffs qualify for worlds (if team wins 2 splits, finalist would take the spot)
• worlds happen in summer, with all qualified teams
• you can qualify for splits in an OPEN qualification series (yearly changes, after worlds basically, weakest teams will do playoffs before worlds against the top qual split teams)

You think this sounds good? aight. Let OWL die and we have a shot at getting all this.

[rustic roost]

i aint readin allat

[vale cobalt]

not bad

[jagged cargo]

it is though. they lose a lot of money to steam, putting the game on that platform. if the game had enough organic growth, battlenet would suffice

[vale cobalt]

i want lec, lck, lpl, lcs style stage

[rustic roost]

or maybe they just want more money

[vale cobalt]

i want offline tourneys

not some online bullshit

i want to see the players

i want to travel

fk this shit

[coarse aurora]

also have 4 regions (na, eu, asia, korea as it's own)
this would give you a 12 team worlds tournament
how damn epic would that be

[jagged cargo]

isnt the lcs also imploding rn? or is that old news

[vale cobalt]

ikr

[vale cobalt]

idk man

[coarse aurora]

this years playoff system

is trash

ngl

[vale cobalt]

i just like the idea of it

[feral zodiac]

Esports just isn't profitable ibr

Whatever follows after owl will probably not impress

[coarse aurora]

very much depends on how it's all going to be built

[feral zodiac]

It had its chance and fucked it

[vale cobalt]

review bomb on steam is gone

thank god

[jagged cargo]

guys look at the user defined tags on ow2's steam page

[vale cobalt]

new players

[jagged cargo]

shit's funny

[vale cobalt]

would not play it

when they would see

99% disliked

the game

xd

[jagged cargo]

b-but muh PvE

/s

[vale cobalt]

FFF

[feral zodiac]

Psychological horror lmfao

[vale cobalt]

dont remind me

...

[jagged cargo]

i was rather talking about the h-tag (cant type it out, already got a warning)

[coarse aurora]

wait why tf does it have s*xual content and hen t eye as tags XD

[jagged cargo]

HEN T EYE I CANT LMFAO

[vale cobalt]

hmmmmmm

[jagged cargo]

because reddit (and the huge wave of nsfw content the game had in it's first 3 years)

[coarse aurora]

:]

[jagged cargo]

"encrypted character models" btw

[vale cobalt]

guys season 6 will be the best season

according to some articles

hero missions and stuff will come no?

[jagged cargo]

#trustmebro

[coarse aurora]

season 6 will be indeed cool contentwise from what was seen yet

[vale cobalt]

new hero

steam launch

august 10

[jagged cargo]

the ones that look like warframe mastery missions?

lmao

[coarse aurora]

am curious whether sombra rework will come and if it messes up Atlanta Reign if it gets implemented to the league

[vale cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/wojak-doomer-gif-25753254

[jagged cargo]

did i just make you remember the better pve experience? 😮

[vale cobalt]

infinite invis is the most stupid thing there is

[jagged cargo]

Nah ivara gang on top

[vale cobalt]

ppl abuse it and they never go non invis and u see 700 dmg sombra

[karmic charm]

invis hack.

[jagged cargo]

didnt they say they're gonna make her more deadly?

[vale cobalt]

yeah

that's the thing

but

[jagged cargo]

sounds like that would fit lip even more

[vale cobalt]

she wont have

infinite invis

which is good

[jagged cargo]

soooo ow1 sombra again?

[vale cobalt]

depends on how shes gonna be

dunno

[jagged cargo]

without disabling everything that is

fuck old hack

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/qinqka/status/1681727365318320128

fr

https://twitter.com/rupalzaman/status/1681727064003493890

poko rupal is back

[heavy scroll]

yeah steam is good for anyone who doesn't play other blizzard games, saving space on my pc

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/GZCharge/status/1681706364559556623

F

[vale cobalt]

you will still need your battle.net

don't fall for "steam only" trap

[heavy scroll]

Why would they put it on steam if i still need battle net installed?

[tidal marsh]

its nice to have it on steam tho

so all your games are together

[heavy scroll]

if ii still need a battle.net account thats fine

[vale cobalt]

cuz u will download both

[tidal marsh]

its probs gonna be similar to how EA works with it

[vale cobalt]

its better for both of them

:))

[tidal marsh]

it opens up the EA app and loads the game

[heavy scroll]

so you're saying that opening overwatch on steam would just re-route me back to the battle net app?

[tidal marsh]

i'd assume yes

[vale cobalt]

prb yes

[plush grail]

like legit

have u ever used steam

50% of games are like this

u log in on steam and download it

and the game has u make another type of account

[tidal marsh]

most triple a studios with games on steam have some sort of launcher which it sends you to

it's common practice

[vale cobalt]

casters, analiysts are tweeting that it has been a good journey

it's officially over

[tidal marsh]

Owl is dead

hope they make a better league

[tidal marsh]

🙂

[vale cobalt]

lemme ask 💀

[plush grail]

owl is dead but this might be good for ow esports in the long run

[tidal marsh]

yes

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/Renko_OW/status/1681727020936601600

[heavy scroll]

I'm fine with it needing a battle net account, its uninstalling the battle.net launcher i want

[vale cobalt]

go back to sleep

[plush grail]

smaller tournaments, better teams because no huge cost requirement

[tidal marsh]

you're gonna need the launcher still

[plush grail]

if a team does well together they dont need to scrounge together like 300k

[tidal marsh]

i hope we go back to the apex times

[plush grail]

probably tbh

[tidal marsh]

kinda miss it

[plush grail]

we'll just get tournaments hosted yearly

and teams will join

[heavy scroll]

thats so fucking stupid

[plush grail]

and we'll have like a solid set of teams after a year of play

[tidal marsh]

its common practice

[earnest leaf]

if owl dies OW esports dies with it I think

Unless blizzard does a massive campaign to re-do the whole scene

Otherwise no org will ever invest a meaningful amount into ow esports

[tidal marsh]

also its not even like BNet is that big of an application

[uncut drum]

no

we hope microsoft does something

[earnest leaf]

at best you might get small tourneys where owl players band together for the hell of it

but I don't see any large scale system working again

[uncut drum]

that is what i expect

good enough for me

[hushed berry]

I feel like this was a long time coming as blizzard failed to pay the owl teams time and time again

[vale cobalt]

wydm blizzard paying teams

teams paid to blizzard

🤣

[tidal marsh]

its why blizz is giving teams money when OWL goes under

[uncut drum]

i think they mean like no return from the teams investment

the teams earned nothing

[tidal marsh]

They've really gotta do a rework of the infrastructure

firstly by creating a new deal with chinese markets so chinese players can play again

[vale cobalt]

i completely agree with this

china has the most population in the whole world and ow is popular in asia so why the f cant chinese play right? i think it would effect the game in a very positive way

[worn falcon]

Doubt we get something like Apex OW

[vale cobalt]

https://youtu.be/loApYN4hnv4

my guy did another fire video what a gigachad

[icy cedar]

fire

[maiden ivy]

We need something like Overwatch Apex back in 2017 without the franchising/city formats stuff.

I miss CWL so much, CDL is just not it.

[tidal marsh]

franchising just isnt good tbh

i want it to go back to just orgs competing as themselves rather than under a cities name

[uncut drum]

Franchising is fine city franchise are bad

As franchise work

But if you city lock then they are bad

Look at lol franchise work in lck

[tidal marsh]

riot is just so good at esports

[narrow oasis]

Anyone else got their east owl points yet?

[tidal marsh]

nope havent been watching owl

[stray solar]

Aw, OWL is officially dead

I assume most teams will just go for the $6M

[vale cobalt]

so random

owl is ded bro fk points

[stray solar]

I might buy some Shanghai dragons skins lol

[tidal marsh]

honestly probably the best thing for the orgs

[stray solar]

Definitely, there’s no money in OWL anymore

[uncut drum]

There hasn't been from 2020

[vale cobalt]

https://twitter.com/CloverCosplays/status/1681743627280609281?t=H2fYmChw_Uy-ZaD9dGgwUg&s=19

if your gonna do a cosplay do it better...

my eyes bleed

wheres the boots and the gun or the cigar

💀

[tawny oriole]

didnt know blizzard was so greedy they stopped giving prize money in owl

[rugged quest]

lck is the only esport where franchising works

generally esport leagues that you qualify to by playing well are the healthiest

[tepid ibex]

damn ur fucking rude

[vale cobalt]

wdym

if your gonna make a cosplay do it correctly 💀

[tepid ibex]

mY eYes BlEed

[vale cobalt]

did u expect me to like it

[tepid ibex]

gerra grip

[stray quarry]

why we flaming cosplays

it looks cool man

[icy cedar]

I want a cape like that

[karmic charm]

yeah icl i like that cosplay

lmao

"where is the gun" 💀

[weary talon]

This is it☹️

[static pond]

Wait

Alphayi went pro at 90fps?

That crazy

[static pond]

Apparently it just to give them some money and sell the franchise spot

[deft wolf]

you’re* also why flame cosplayers. They do it for fun not to fucking please you. Leave them alone. Cosplays don’t have to be accurate for it to be a cosplay. Like keep that to yourself dude. If you don’t like that, than keep it to yourself instead of bitching about it.

ima leave this server so i won the argument

[icy cedar]

Nooo

[fluid sand]

Is there any ow competition that uses a promotion relegation system like football?

[karmic charm]

contenders

[fluid sand]

outside of contenders

Forgot to mention haha

[static pond]

Lip should be mvp this year

[weary talon]

Whatever they do I hope they dont get rid of the city brandings i really couldnt care less about faze C9 and all that i just hope the city names remain

[static pond]

Same

Faze and like optic just sounds so basic lol

[weary talon]

The connection you can to something like paris eternal if you’re from that region is much greater than if its like idk Faze Overwatch or something

[static pond]

Also wish they push back into China and more into eu

And just do tournaments global like they do with cod

How they have playoffs and such in uk and other areas

Ow just stays in Korea and America

[karmic charm]

nah

although after owl is dead

maybe

[karmic charm]

if city names remain (which they wont) the esports team will stay as dead as it is

orgs do not want to invest money into a team that isnt even representing their name

so its more of a case of

would u rather more orgs and event organisers invest into the game

or keep city based names in some random leagues

but with less investment

which means no growth

[fluid sand]

its such a cool idea though, would actually reward contender teams and would kill high franchising costs if done correctly

[fluid sand]

Might try to find or found an amateur league that works like this

[weary talon]

Honestly im just of the opinion that the league should just separate itself from third parties/orgs who finance the teams and seperate itself from blizzard

Have it centralized

To one Main org if you want, who manages all T1 teams

Fix salaries for players

Fix housings

Idk

[desert fractal]

wait

if blizzard is paying teams 6m to pull out the league

what ab the grand finals

and world cup

[uncut drum]

Have you read even a bit of the news

At the end of the season they will vote for pull out

[desert fractal]

oh

[uncut drum]

Also the world cup and league are run by different people

[desert fractal]

right

my bad

[uncut drum]

World cup is the internal eSports team of blizzard

And league is a separate team outside of blizzard

[karmic charm]

no org has that kind of money

activision blizzard is not gonna put that kind of money into owl either

[pallid pebble]

Need jayne to return

And invent esports

[vapid fractal]

Did OWL just died?

[earnest leaf]

It was made public that after the season concludes, the league will approach the teams with a new plan for next year, and if the teams do not agree on that, they may take a 6 million dollar payment and leave the league

Given the downtrend of the league, it is very likely the teams opt for the 6 million and leave owl altogether

So basically a strong chance owl is dead after this season

[fast tusk]

i dont think this means ow esports is done period. a some type of overwatch esports will come back one way or another some day

[karmic charm]

its a good thing for ow esports if owl died

[fast tusk]

ye im sure it is but what about the players, or the pruduction or teams or casters. what happens to them

[crisp carbon]

thats it for them

[karmic charm]

well with owl dead , 3rd party organisers will be allowed to actually start hosting events again

so the production team etc

theyll still be able to land jobs

[crisp carbon]

not really

[karmic charm]

if not, they will easily get jobs in other esports titles

[earnest leaf]

gonna be no money behind any 3rd party stuff I think

we might get small tourneys here and there and owl players coming together for the hell of it

[karmic charm]

?? esl , dreamhack , blast , faceit ?

lol

[crisp carbon]

there has never been money in ow esports to begin with there will not be a scene anywhere near big enough to catch even a fraction of all the people that lost everything here

[karmic charm]

most american players will go to collegiate too

[karmic charm]

there was money in ow esports when apex was around, but ow was a new game then