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OH MY GOD
OH GOD
i got ahcked
this IS OVERWATCH
sombra hacked
LETS FKN GO
g fucking g
my house got emp'ed
NOOOO
THIS IS OVERWATCH
HOLY SHIT
This game was so fucking insane
Noooooooooooo
Bro the ballsy play with the widow
Junbin the goat
shock are #5 or #6 now
Probe omega clutch ngl
Bro that was all Junbin
junbin is bipolar
tbh who's clearly above this level of shock gameplay? reign outlaws mayhem ofc
Lukemino now has won his second game
Junbin carried with the primal at the end
Not outlaws
Nah you can't hate on Outlaws for this one game LMAO
Bench violet and outlaws are goood
shit team
Widow was nerfed. She was nerfed!!!
@vale cobalt thoughts
That Probe Widow in the end was.... oh my god
:)
It was SO good
HUH
brother
WHO SAID
That double headshot
Infernal mayhem outlaws boston (maybe) spark (maybe) reing
Donโt take away Junbin credit
HE CARRIED
it goes
he primaled brig with rally off map
Game winning play right there
WILL
I'm unsure about east teams tbh
reign, outlaws or mayhem they're kinda competing for #2, uprising, prolly shock
those probe picks :)))))))
im talking east rn
DONT STOP BELIEVING
proper potm yipee
#ANTEUP
#RIZZUP
#TEXASHARD
Outlaws not making a comeback having the same record as Vegas
yo ima update u guys when im at boston watchparty
i'll try to take pics
w cutie izayaki
let us give flora some credit here
I think Shock are somewhere between 4 and 6 atm in the West
he played very well
Even though they troll me every fucking year
One bad games and youre frauds already
5 or 6
last year they lost to nyxl
HAVE FUN!!!
Flora had a sick game too yeah
i think uprising stays #4
Year before that they lost to Boston
outlawcord member huh nice
I need to see Boston first
Lukemino's Paris/Vegas career: 6 wins on 60 maps
Lukemino's San Francisco career: 6 wins on 9 maps
from pre msm, ye, I would agree
renko :))))))
they have new coaches
Lukemino does a cracking job ngl
i think they can do very well
the avalla effect
chances are they stay #4 tho unless outlaws crumble or sumn
this week has been full of surprises
im literallt working i looked away from the stream for 2 minutes
this is so unfair
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
PROPER THE GOAT
It has been a really amazing game of overwatch tbh
proper is just that guy
Like, came so down to the wire
This week is going mental ye
shock is back?
yes
I mean today alone???
#5 or #6 in west
I think MSM 1st game Outlaws v Reign was completely bonkers and Florida v Houston in Spring Series was insane too
But we had the wildest batch of games in a short time rn
those games were also insane to watch
YES
Valiant winning and now this Game 5 banger?? Goated
@heavy scroll hes gonna show em
๐
i think they stay at #5 tho bc the top 4 teams are crazy
i think eventually against the better teams they may find trouble with the support like
fr
Make him focus more on less heroes in their respective comps and Junbin will start to perform realyl goodf
bc eventually you're up against shu viol2t leejaegon izayaki chiyo fielder
and i feel like the shock support line may fall off there
boston houston tomorrow ๐๐๐
^this will be insane
YESSIR
im excitwed
to see how boston is with new coaches
hopefully no more decay genji
birdring bastion
๐
goddamn.
THE PROBE RESPECT
renko interview :D
Renko happy dude :)
ah shit I forgot renko was a rookie
awwwww
who did they interview yesterday
MY GOAT
goated brig!
hes so adorable
bye renko๐ฅน
happy renko can stay happy now lol
I wish we could see the single game stats anywhere other than stats lab bc they need literal months to implement those tbh
I wanna see Probe Stats and stuff
this is true overwatch league right here.
best matches i've watched yet
i started watching midway thru this season bc im fairly new
yeah these past two games were so fire
junbin looks like 12
only like 170 hours on ow2 total
^ you should rewatch the grand finals last year
it is where I started
WHAT a series
i saw the akshon esports vid abt it
"best battle for LA" so true
the only thing I hated was the lack of comp variety
Back to the fish
?????????????
Cod
no
this fucking microwave
i'm Young.
lmaoo
4 minutes is crazy
a Zoomer.
Tilapia
I'm like a decade older lmao
old!! lol!!
Tilapa vs kimchi
THE DOVE EMP HAHAHAHA
Dove never living this down
GOATED PLAY
dove ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
it seemed great
in the beginning..
goats looked really fucking painful lmao
thats gonna be like that for all games
i wanna run goats in a custom game sometime
cuz no one really knows how to play a game thats brand new
That Kai shot 
goats seem like its fun at first
but its not
goats is only really fun and enjoyable at the best level
bought boston brig as well recently
I am kinda scared about London tbh
solid amount
They might get 2nd last or even dead last depending on if Vegas can get shit together
LOL
Guys do they have to be live to get tokens or can I watch the premiere
i dont think premieres grant tokens
Okay thanks
ye it has to be live
just let it run in the background if you're not there to watch lmao
damn proper ain't happy with this game
dude i think im the next brown fielder on support
bro why are all the shock players so unhappy with what happened, they clutched up bigtime against a team that was at least a tier higher than them in spring season
I've never played goats as I wasn't in ow at the time it was relevant but in my head it seems so incredibly anti fun at face value just tanks tickling tanks until someone dies.
I think it's just because on paper this shock roster is underperforming to a huge degree this year so the players feelsbadman about their play
Underperforming players are typically far more critical of themselves because they know how high their ceiling is compared to where they're at now
goats is an incredibly shit meta to watch, but extremely fun to play
Omg I missed Lyar getting his first Dub in owl yay
I missed sadiators game
There's no shot LAG exists next year lmaoo
Marve1 on ping was obviously a wonderful decision
could've been on lan lyar still woulda swept ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Probably
No
then how do i get it?
Who knows
this was already their last szn anyway
i would liquidate my org if i lost to valiant too
wait every org that has lost to Valiant in an embarrassing fashion no longer exists
Fusion Hunters and soon to be Glads
It hasn't been revealed but my guess is to get every single team skin and the charm for the gold one
Easy way to make money imo
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
bro im too broke for it
i only managed to buy houston outlaw skin for ana
have 126 will buy baptise soon
then dva then ram then soj or torb cuz thats what i usually play
i want to buy every outlaw skin out there ofc but it will take ages ๐
Or you could get a perfect bracket and only buy the charm
Woke up this morning seeing myself lost 3pts on pickem bcuz of Glads๐๐
You know I even did 3:2
Are 2 players in Glads playing on ping?
marve1 on ping i believe
only 1
kick babel let lastro play ana his bap is good and ana is decent put funnyastro on brig ez
babel is popu
yaki kevster
no other player pls kai can only play sniper
Agree-babel is doing too little
I mean not bad but not good enough in a team like Glads
Yes!!!!! Thats the point
jokes aside
he is smiling and all but
he is doing some solid work
ppl are too focused on how he looks but his gameplay is impressive
and lukemino suprised me
he came from a trash team called vegas
Yeah, I didnt expect much on the new heal duo
and started winning
But indeed doing well
vegas is literally garbage
have you seen dove's emp today
owl twitter posted it then deleted it cuz it was too cringe
๐๐๐
heโs too cute ๐๐๐
i have a better one gimme 1 sec
watch from 5:51 to 6:02 https://youtu.be/w1IJ9Pz5kFE
owl level tracer pulse
I mean I watched his game in the past and it wasnt that bad
Though I didnt watch this team for a long time lol
Too boring to watch..
i dont blame u vegas games are not watchable at all
my eyes will bleed if i try to watch
hahahahaha
Just bring some top class contenders in
Better than seeing Vegas trolling
Vegas literally did that
yes?
They brought o2 in
all their Korean players were from top contenders
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spilo is a gigachad
only telling the truth
Goated squad

But overall despite Vegas and death of Hunters, this season seems more balanced
Low perfomring teams are still there but the mid range band is wider
this season feels like s4 in terms of team quality
Aka best season
S4 was the best format
was eternal improved today or are we continuing the loss streak
s5 had the best format
like i said before, even though valiant or shock is doing good, their performance can (much likely will) go down during the season.
???
#anteup
S5 has that massive snowball
s5 was not without flaws but it by far felt like the best season in terms of format
from todays game
you are welcome
Too little games
perfect amount of tournaments, two being global, multiple lans
S5 the first tourney was worth like 2x
guys guys the summer stage has begun like 2 days ago dont make assumptions on whos the best or will be the best
valiant won today but it doesnt change the fact that they're ass
atl will probably be the best team regardless
there was a delay before dropping the emp too did he not realize he translocated๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
houston lost but it doesnt mean they will continue losing
glads losing doesnt mean babel is good
he should be kicked
Violet will always be a shitter
and lastro needs to play ana
I have to agree given the dps duo and deal duo is so strong
Maybe the only possible reason to lose is on tank-according to meta
violet trolled hard during houston florida game
Viol2t again
died early and fked the flow of houston
They have two a tier tanks
I called violet mercy
swaped to bap and windowed
dropped from highground
for no reason and died
then swaped to brig
I mean if I have to pick some weaknessโฆ hahaha
Houston needs a dva player
Not the first timeโฆ
XD doesnt matter hes awful either way hes pro there are no room for errors or miscalculations
its the pro stage not comp
Pelican carries
gargoyle left and i asked general manager about whos gonna play and he sent me a gif saying "we'll talk about that later"
Lmao
outlawcord is crazy
He looks so old
gargoyle wasnt kicked btw guys
i want to clearify that
he said to them after mid season madness that he wants to retire
it was his choice
Military?
Aha
Love this idea
Oh it makes sense
now the question is, who's gonna play dva or sigma
I was talking abt that earlier
He came our of retirement for half a season
i still remember the day he ate a dragon
what a true gigachad
I wouldn't be against valiant building a better core around seeker
Maybe signing samuel
YES BRO
that shit was ass
only 4 teams make it to hawaii
and it would be garunteed dragons fuel
and then 2 others
usually chengdu atlanta
s5 was perfect
idk what they are cooking with this wack s6 shit
apac so bad they had to get korean contenders in there to make it interesting
Hawaii?
mhm
its in between asia and na
so an ideal place to host a international tournament
hawaiians and washed up Americans
so no one
capitalism turned their island into a Tourist Resource so old people go there to marinate like in Florida
there were never events at hawaii
or public lan ones I should say
just the players going there since it was the easiest spot to get them to play vs apac
yea
and the university partnered with them
A million and a half people
my predictions for summer qualifier placements, ignore the right
Predicting Hangzhou Last, what a Bold Guy ๐
how u putting spark last when they rolled charge ๐
want to see them do it again ๐
Who's playing 2nite anyways
Why i just made up a spark 3-0 charge in my head
๐
i swear that happened!
Oh charge lost to a contenders team
same thing
yea but they lost to... Dreamers
who were then 4-0'd by spark
Can carrysehwan save charge from leave and shy??
Find out tonight
spark 100% charge 0 ๐
Leave too good
quality 100
bro recalled into his pulse the classic gold move
la glads is in shambles man wtf
the team is gonna be gone next year
and they lost to a 0-8 valiant
The skins are for widow and Dva right?
If Vegas is still here Glads will still be here
Yeah I donโt think glads are worse fr
worse ?
they got reverse swept by a team who hasn't won a single game the entire season
man, im never voting charge again for this match up. im sorry but they flubbed 3 ults
well, 2 and not using one

im never again doubting spark
this is such a diff
Anyone have any idea if theyโll make a league tracer skin?
they got all of spark low and still couldnt kill
i hope so
jimmy has a whinston up his butt every respawn. hes getting killed on cooldown
leave is him
dear god poker face dps are the literal definition of "stop calling bad players underrated"
dreamer should win ngl i kinda want dreamers to win it all
What patch is this on
God damn
dreamers are sweeping dragons
That's not okay
topdragon shows whos the real dragon
I have dragons 3-0
At least all my other preds are some what right
i trusted fleta
Dreamers logo does not look okay in dark mode
not even demech
Light mode dreamers way better
dreamer's tank didnt die on this map and didnt even demech
๐
ya
insane sweep
feels like shanghai was js out of it this game
Looks like heesu and viper werent held at gunpoint
This game
ssado kinda crazy
heesu has been unleashed
Heesu's being held at gunpoint now
Topdragon and sad getting diffed so hard
Is that sad's first kill
This map
bro
HOW
I
C
IM
IM NOT MIISSING
A MATCH AGAIIN
HOW TF
IT WAS A REVERSE SWEEP ALSO??
topdragon is just so much better then viper
close enough
topdragon legit ran rounds around viper especially on this last map
crazy tracer diff
yes
good morning
lyar killed 4 ppl
with lucio
they won
Ya'll really be underestimating the Valiant
seeker became a god on sojourn
overestiimating the glads*
bro they're ass
valiant are stillk bad
they just pulled out a miracle
miracles doesnt happen often
I don't think it's a miracle they were able to reverse sweep
that sounds like a miracle
even more
๐ญ
okay do u really think that they will win the next games?
do you really believe that?
You never know
XD
can't just assume until you see it
who does val fight next
but it doesnt change the fact that they're awful
the only team I know that won't win games is Eternal until they fix their shit
ngl theres a chance
vegas emp'ed efter teleporting back to translocator
they looked OWL level vs NYXL
granted
horrible
bottom tier
OWL level
BUT OWL LEVEL ISI SOMETHING FOR
THE ETERNAL
shock and spitfire
NYXL just need like one or two fixes to be good again tbh
stop giving wrong info
end of this week
they did a good start by getting rid of halo, though they took like 2 steps back getting rid of Lep as well
they play shock spitfire next week
my bad bro next time i will remember every single match absolutely perfectly
just for you
I miss when NYXL was the best team in the west
frauds vs frauds
your team is bunch of garbage that pressed together to create a larger garbage
it doesnt change the fact that they're still garbage
atleast i recognise that
we lost cuz gargoyle didnt want to play
has to be one of the circuit royale defence comps of all time
he retired after
hey
listen
we lost cuz gargoyle said he wants to retire after msm
and we didnt had a sigma or dva player
so sign another ot
Why
pretty sure void is basically a benchwarmer atp
Hadi is it bad
couldve signed him
Void is I. Dynasty
yeah but htyere playing basically only belosrea
he cannot play a lot of tank heroes
which causes spitfire to not be able to play all the comps they want to play
He is a main tank with a meh Winston good ball and good jq and a good rein
He is a main tank
he cannot play monke
Not a off tank
sig is needed on 1 map tbf
then kick him and get a korean monke
why would they get a korean tho
Do you know what a main tank is
they have a full eu roster?
i do know what it means
and thats why
i want him to leave
Ok so why do you expect a main tank to play DVA and sigma
kick main tank get a off tank
if spitfire couldve got visas in time they probably wouldve signed jkaru
And expect it to be good
in a main tank meta..?
Ana that wa one of the most stupid things I heard
He is not
jkaru is good option
if u want eu monke
hadi is the reason spitfire is losing
he cannot flex
jkaru would be on like 120-150 ping
when is dva needed
DVA in a Main tank meta
and neither of those maps are in the map pool
Lol
Like maybe 66 on a off chance
and dva on none
why am i seeing blocked message
least fragile esports discussion user
I didn't say you do that is the I my map I can see it even be little viable
dva can be played on like
Cause you blocked people cause the disagree with your bad take
ilios lighthouse
i guess ?
i said this !!
u can play the dva when u go like
echo/pharah mercy
i blocked them cause their opinion is not well thought
i struggle to see which heroes to play on which maps but ik i only ever really saw the dva on rialto and blizzard world consistently but those maps arenโt even here
Says you
LITERASLLY WHAT I SAID
thank u jae
best mod
ninja lemme ask you something
Your take was the most stupid thing
๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค
and even then dva was only played on blizz world and rialto by lower tier temas
teams
the top teams still played monkey there
A rein player that can play ram jq and ball at a good level and have a passabke monkey in a meta which requires these heroes
If you have 1 maintank player on your roster and he cant play monkey your ceiling is very limited
meta isnt rein
meta is monke dva
that wasnt the point here tho
WHAT
DVA is not meta
why keep rein player in the roster
What in the world
HUH
dva getting played on two maps sometimes does not make her meta i fear
isnt the argument whether to keep hadi or nah?
Yes
thats what im saying
but they're saying oh its not hadis fault
when dva isnt meta
and sig is meta on 1map
if they can afford 2 tanks then yeah
rein only doesnt fix problems
rein rush into monke dva
is not the play
if it would worked
then they would've won games by now
more games*
u havent been watching their games then
bc the games they HAVE won are on the rush
they havent been playing rein rush
A competent winston has been a must to be a decent team since the creation of the league
hadi is competant but hes not top tier
no eu winston player is gonna be a huge improvment
jkaru would be maybe but theyd never get a visa in time
I remember when hadi was a rein ball merchant
not owl competent with how good winston play is in the league rn
i mean when you have winston players like donghak the definition of competent is so skewed
"good winstons" being the very top teams
He is a good ball but you can play that into the current meta
if you want to stay EU its vestola or ksaa
(if they get a new tank)
like u can play a hero but when youโre going up against teams that just play it better on average itโs hard to make that comparison
Ksaa eh
apparently hadi and vestola have issues
Wasn't particularly stand out when he played for valiant
really? ive never heard about that
is there a specific reason why
But Saudi seem decent
solution: kick hadi get a monke and a dva player and spitfire can start winning because sauna fixed the dps problem since lethal's tracer was awfuland skaripa was a waste of money so now london and admiral can play like they want
otherwise: spitfire will keep losing by playing rein rush
i only heard about it a few months ago but idk how true it is
they dont need a dva meta ๐
no teams are playing dva
DVA IS NOT FUCKING META
and again, WHAT monkey player can they get
Spitfire have been rein rush merchants for a long time
so mad
So I don't expect anything to change
They have not played rein rush yet this stage
sure :))
reign
It's their best comp
Regin don't count
???
That was a auto loss
HAHHAAHHAHA
but again, tell me what monkey player spitfire can actually get
sureeeee
like seriously
There isn't one
exactly
he wont have a visa
spifire can get ksaa
hes in the uk
ksaa and jkaru
ksaa isnt a winston player
Doesn't mean we can't point out that Hadis lack of winston ability is a weakness
DVA ISNT META THO?
they donโt need the dva ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
Why are you so focused on DVA
sure, but "kick had get winston dva" isnt a solution
they do
When DVA is not meta
but why
Like how
what tf are they
maps
omg
The solution is let Hadi get better
They are not
But the league will probably fold before that
gibraltr numbani are monkey maps..
literally
if u dont play certain tanks in a certain maps you lose
gibraltar has always been a monkey map
the opposite is also trueโฆ. that if you play a certain tank you lose which is why they. arenโt playing dva โฆ
see what they play
And he has compare 2021 Hadi to 2022 Hadi a lot better and now he has gotten a bit better but thanks overall have gotten better at a higher rate
please
you cannot compare owwc to owl i donโt think
half of the teams arent even t2 players
World cup is nothing that is no where near the level of owl
I literally said this
more than half *
im just giving u an example from nearly past
You did I didn't see mb
but itโs not an applicable example
World cup is 90% teams styling on each other
like it doesnโt matter what comps owwc is running
"go watch the world cup"
the world cup:
World cup is 80% t2 players
not even t2
have a nice day guys keep believing
Saudi are literally pharmercy merchants, they would get steamrolled by most owl teams

It's like if the Argentina national team played Man City, they'd get absolutely dusted
And you keep believing in your bad takes
as much as i wanna see dva meta iโm not going to delude myself into thinking that itโs happening rn
Why do portugal have a German flag in their team lmfao
Old t2 players was all of group b of na
duel nationality
Fair
LMFAO
Yeah
LOL
It was funny to see
