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yes
and that's like the top korean t2 teams
I mean they might be able to beat like vegas or valiant
no
ok you're just disagreeing to disagree at this point
saints beat glads in a scrim around pro am
i have the code
also trick room beat shock
those early of scrims mean literally nothing
pro-am also meant nothing
atlant lost pro am
and proceeded to lose I think 2 or 3 maps total all stage long
yes, because those matches were more showmatches than anything
yea they probably didn't like it
But also those owl teams iirc were just starting up scrims
I gotta sleep
so were the t2 teams for the most prt
aside from maybe redbirds bc they were also collegiate
Shock still suck
dawg wtf is ur name
When does owwc ro16 start?
blizzcon
Thanks but I meant the date sorry for not making it clear

ohhh
probaly like
november ish
i dont think theres an exact date
tho
Tf u mean
Can't u read
It's easier to say then the last one
Got A Decent 5k with Tracer , I wanna know if itās good or bad, Dm me if you care too share an opinion
plat chat are sponsored by freeze pipe LMAOOO
how does overwatch eSports work? I'm like literally overwatch beginner played only 50 matches till now
And manscaped
Like football except their is 2 tournaments
By football I mean American football š
I dislike all irl sports so I know nothing about football
Ok so what r u confused about?
4 teams make it in the west and 2 teams from the East make it to the tournament
they play a double elim bracket
Mayhem are cooking something over there I smell it
In overwatch, there is two regions. The west which consists of NA and Europe teams. These teams are city based like Houston outlaws and not org based however some teams have orgs behind them supporting them. London spitfire is owned by C9 and the glads are owned by the guard. The West will play matches during the regular season to determine their standings ie. 11-0 (11 wins and 0 loss). The top 2 teams in this region based on standings will automatically qualify for the tournament. The other teams will play a knockout in order to see who will make it (a double elim bracket). The East is the same thing but due to having less teams, they decided to implement contenders teams. Contenders is like the division below overwatch league and is where teams pick up their players. They will play regular season matches and then a double elim bracket to see who qualifies. Top 2 in this region from the bracket will make it to the tournament where they will play a double elim bracket along with the west to determine who is the champion. In this season, there are 2 tournaments (mid season madness and playoffs) mid season madness just happened and now we are heading into the regular season for the fall stage
@willow widget
Is that a copy paste?
nah i think chatgpt wrote it
#AnteUp FIRST GAME OF THE SUMMER STAGEEEE
Idk who that is
Time to go check his liquipedia
who dis
Team diamond flex supp
What this means in my eyes is that they want to switch to Korean comms
maybe their r some issues with the English comms
houston for the win #anteup
Probably, plus Rupal would probably draw a lot of trade power
Idk about that
looks like a double flex support flexibility signing to me
rupal is decent enough so i think they will make him his sub if things go wrong (if he takes a pause to improve his health or just to let him rest before the more important game)
otherwise theres no need to fix comms cuz they all get together well both in rl and when it comes to comms
They are cooking
most likely no probelm with comms they might want to run different comps as maka is a flex allowing them to run kiriko ana and stuff like that if it becomes meta
At least from what I know of Mayhem coaching philosophy
Chorong flex support is still better than a lot of the flex supports in the league
They basically just donāt want Chorong on flex support
they talk english anyway and theres not much time to talk in korean in teamfight situation and they know what to do pre teamfight
rupal's ana is decent? kiriko is a great example tho
If theyre gonna sign a 6th, a flex support makes most sense to me even if there is no comm questions involved
I have an idea
What if Mayhem signed a 6th just because it's league rules to have 6 and they don't want to put a coach as a player and coach
i mean they got cash from MSM so its not an issue for them to sign another flex support
I think it's this
just let him be there if they want to tryout new comps
and might as well get a flex support just in case
So he not gonna get play time
Or play in contenders
chorong plays well enough for a double flex
next year š their may not even be owl next year
Yeah but if theyre gonna sign a 6th a flex supp makes most sense even without the comm stuff.. Im just saying that your korean comms take is a longshot, them signing maka doesnt mean that at all
rupal is a good flex support that doesnt need a replacement. Chorong can also play kiriko ana or zen at a high level. there would be no need to sign another flex support when u have those 2 which can cover alot of the roles.
i mean thats how i look at it
Striker back on shock
Fr???
Oh god
Striker about to rage against outlaws and atl
Btw venom is a better tracer then striker now imo
Thatās rough to start against
But isnāt venom a tracer only unless he got better
Think he a flex but mostly tracer
Striker was also mostly tracer when he played
Back then
His only rival was sbb
But nyxl had shit coaches
That was so long ago tho
like i rold before
its a good pickup
for next season
Yeah
dude
i bet 10 pounds he is going back to boston next year
Probably
He starts on Boston then he retires ( if he does ) on Boston lol
3rd time the charm
Tbh I see Bostion keeping there team just getting a better coach and a other flex
Nope
Goat
Not sure I lost count lol
Same
Ngl I wanna see them face Bostion
Like why go to shock
Because why not I guess
Striker?? XD
When Boston is stacked
probably didnāt like having 0 playtime
He probably release himself
is probe in the us?
0 play time is the best thing over his breaking computes rage
Good point
crusty
they might play striker until probe gets to us
Is cooking something
Seems reasonable
How shock traded heesang
Because heāll be on ping
Yeah
Ngl I feel disrespected by that
But Tbf heesang was doing not great
is the video actually real šš
Yeah
Nether was max
Yeah
But then the whole um ow removed from China happened
Dragons would have been scary af
I mean topDragon to Shanghai is a missed opportunity
Netease is the reason why Shanghai had to release everyone
Ya
It hurt watching
Missing out of that topdragon lip duo
Sad
Tbh viper looks very solid
As a tracer at least
this makes sense tbf
Probably why they got the bare minimum and I have a feeling fleta on Tank was until they could get an actual tank because realistically Fleta doesnāt have anything left to prove
theres just no way striker is back in shock ššššš
probe probably still on ping
and striker probably could have an easier time getting with the team
Viper heesu is good tho
heesu was such a W pickup
When stocks drop companies usually donāt put more money just to see where there at
Besides that one game against dynasty Fleta was better not on Winston
one of the more underrated players this year
That prob why we see fate now
Yeah
Just to be safe
i have no problem with that its just that this is literally the THIRD TIME
Who
Stocks all time low arenāt accurate they usually go back up
Not as much as before tho
heesu
Yeah I mean he was probably doing a profit playing for fun
Thatās sad that he is
Nah it also was because fate is a very team base player
It's happened so much it feels normal but it's actually so fucking odd
Iirc he was the comms person on Shanghai
i mean danteh said fate is very good at comming
He not fearless but he Is very good team player
Yeah
I can't think of any esport or actual sport where a player bounced between the same two teams 4 times
Fate is less selfish than fearless
yeah agreed
When did danteh play with Fate
Thatās wot moon said when they would hes more willing to risk himself for his team
Ya he is
Theres no way they did it
The ball pick was his idea I heard
Yeah
Striker back at shock
I mean the ball forced fearless on to Hog
When they reverse sweep Dallas
It wasnāt a reverse sweep
But a gentlemen sweep
that game was honestly perfect
Yeah
San Francisco Shock on Twitter: "An update regarding our competitive roster: https://t.co/zNTnwlUrhA" / Twitter
It was the 2020 dynasty v Shanghai level
striker:
pops off on boston
gets traded to shock
wins 2 rings with shock
"retires" when shock doing bad
plays on boston again
cries and leaves when boston doing bad
joins shock for playoffs
leaves
joins boston
leaves
joins shock
Nah
nah
Striker got that dog in him
?
im more concerned abt the lukemino pickup
What can he play better then proper on
Idrk much about renko
?
How is renko
Yes
probe is not playing on ping
But in terms of heroās
Weāll see
also striker can play hitscan + hanzo
Just play echo tracer so that they can have striker and proper tracer at once
also thats not like
the downside
its not that hero pools overlap it's just that we have never seen striker play this entire season
Will finn benchwarm?
He hast played hanzo in a long time lol
His last big hero was reaper
Which was the playoffs
Meta around that time
They could do something very funny
blud the first time he regularly played hanzo was 2020 and it was very solid
he's just naturally good with hanzo
They could just force winston reaper sojourn rush now
i wouldnt doubt him picking hanzoup again
tracer sombra better unfortunately
meta is less diverse
Yeah
its prob gonna be winston sombra tracer everywhere except a certain few maps
Echo being played a bit more
According to gator
winston tracer sombra on all maps except the rush maps
s9mm echo-oh wait
and for playins + playoffs
there will be a 2 week break
idk
Huh???
and then be implemented
yea
That sound dumb
nah i like it
Same but two weeks
the pros seem to like it too
Into play ins and playoffs
it removes having to play control twice in a map 5
Kinda throw everything the team practices the whole season away
its in general info
the flashpoint gamemode and new hero will be included in the second half of the summer stage
following a 2 week bye
is the 2.5.0.1 patch live or the one on s5 release
not the current one
the one before
i mean it makes sense
why would u play on a patch that came out 2 days before ur match
Didnāt they do that in season 1 lol
With hanzo reworked
time for owl!
fuck nyxl idc
@north relic
its ok to be completely wrong
also Johnnys new surname is cool some people on twitter were saying it was shit
snowden is a cool name
mhm
No shot Luke or renko can be better than Vindaim Finn and Striker is an upgrade from heesang but he's still ceiling at upper mid so I'm pretty sure this shock is going to be cheeks still
Tf is rox orcas
striker is an upgrade from heesang š
Upgrade?
They're both ass I'm trying to be optimistic smh
striker legit 2 tricks reaper tracer nowadays
heesang is good but stuck on shock jail
yo the default slides
He on titans now
It is kind of crazy how quickly Striker got gapped as best tracer in the world after s3, it happened so fast
it's a tragedy for whatever happened on s4 shock
its real
lmaooo
unter such a toxic coach
I cannot get over the tragic the opening Taiyo dps game for shock in s4, it was like the end of an era
I really hope someone from that team that season just leaks everything that happened
literally when taiyo lost that one map the shock's internals just went downhill
we've gotten tiny bits but from what it seems like, there was a lot more
they just got mentally boomed
s4 shock was a problem on everyone
I think they just had way too much confidence from s3 and then signed a bunch of fan Favs they thought would be fine when in reality fan favs often just equals retirement home not good roster
so much pressure and none of the performance to match it
from what super has alluded to, there were a bunch of internal issues beyond what is even known publicly
they're sharing, every year the other team gets him
nero glister were actually good
nero was probably the best player on that team for most of the season
nero was pretty good but glister definetly struggled
glister had good highlights but he wasnt as consistent
I also think the skill ceiling from s3 to s4 increased too, a lot of players just seemed to fall off
as nero was
For more than six years, Danteh has devoted most of his young adult life to Overwatch esports. In this interview shortly after his retirement, he talks about the challenges of being a pro player in Overwatch esports, money management, toxic team environments, why Winston is such a hard hero to play at the top level, brand building, collegiate, e...
yiska interview with the king himself
holy shit new yiska interview just dropped
honestly W
yiska's interviews are so good
He asks questions beyond the normal cookie cutter ones which is nice
S4 was when all the part timers or classic owl players got weeded out and it was depressing af seeing players like Diem, BQB, Ivy, Rascal, get phased out of owl

he didnt interview lip
can i get a titles check on danteh
the goat
"the goat"
uhc 2000 elo or sm
Just talk about the roster moves stop with this awful powerpoint shi
cringe as fuck
Thinking about Linkzr making more money in one widow 1v1 than his entire career winnings
see u get it
Thing around that time glister was thinking what he wanted to do
Donāt think he wanted to do owl
danteh is hot lip is not hot
Lip is tall
if danteh only played dps this season
Was rascal overrated by being on s3 shock or did he just not want to play anymore and moved on regardless of if he still had it, it was hard to tell on s4 Fusion
his hair cut is awful
trying to argue anyone is better than lip on sombra
couldve been just as good, if not better than lip
Doesnā matter lip is tall
atleast he dont one trick š
Automatically win
short boys are cute
damn i hate the times when lip won titles on sojourn and reaper
danteh still hotter
Mad adorable lip looks like his dad next to him
Shock had leakers by the balls with this striker saga
he also won on ashe im pretty sure
now shock need to bring back viol2t ans rascal moth and super
would be bottom NA
might as well bring choi and smurf while ure at it
not viol2t
he should def stay on outlaws
sex big dick
Yes
give them a cass mei meta and they're solid
rascal coach
I wish Ans played like a pro still and not like a mechanically cracked ladder player who goes to owl occasionally
ans had 1 good map last season

the only map i can remember of ans last season
was gibralter
against shock i think
I think ans is still really good, but he just needs a dps line where he only has to play widow/cass/ashe
teh
all the boston uprising members waking up on twitter to make fun of striker
teh goat š„¹
so he is on loan to nt
profit has never really had a "bad" season
profit perma starts every season and played in s1
s4 they were alr
not bad
yeah
s1 good
s2 bad
s3 good
s4 + 5 mid
s3 was not good
i thought u were talking about profit
what stat
he was just mediorce
final blows
hey
why isnt danteh grayed out
that dude isnt an OWL player
he is in our hearts
final blows
oh
different format?
top 3 make it
automatically
which doesnt match with the pickems but when has overwtach had their shit right
well i think its similar to last stage
except now 3 teams auto qualify instead of 2
and the remaining # of teams (didnt catch it) will play a double elim bracket fighting for the next couple spots
like normal qualifiers
it am guessing it is somthing similar in the east
so we will have 5 west teams
maybe 3 east teams
east will be top 1 auto qual then 2 from playins
maybe
f
hopium is crazy
im in the same boat
realistically it will be a 3-0 if its pure sombra tracer still
ez
guess the player (impossible)
how do u get darkmode
ez2
Pitcher!
realistically it will be 3-0 no matter what
i have darkmode all the time
I tried to find the best anytonym I could in 3 sec
its fixed
i could see spitfire take a map if it was rush mirror
I can't find darkmode on chrome š
i will do week 2 depending on how teams perform in week 1
its edge diff
sad
spitfire would force rush and beat nyxl
u cant play rein brawl into every comp
they can play dive and brawl/rush will be useless
have u been
following
roster changes
?
i follow them
spectra, opener and super
will be a difference maker
colluge washed but can be good
Toronto deliant
no way u fell for that
š
wait who the fuck thinks super is playing again
roster changes are irrelevant to my point tho
i said spitfire beat defiants dive
that was last stage
lol
roster changes are not relevant to that match
contender skins?
peli soj?
outlaws skins
oh lmao
i've wayched too much contenders recently
who said peli soj is bad?
pelican is one of the best soj players ive seen imo
and happy on tracer over peli
happy tracer is good
isnt peli tracer also good
but noway its as good as his soj
outlaws suffer from only having average tracer players
really?
i lowkey dont think ive ever seen peli on soj
he played it last year
i dont really follow outlaws
on circuit
yeah as i said in my eyes pelican is one of the best if not the best soj player rn
that is just wrong
i assume we are about to get the hard dive swap
i kinda miss the owl feature we had back on twitch where you could spectate who you wanted to spectate
:(
why is there such a big gap in august
whats happening then
theres 20 days with no matches
what's that break in between?
week 3 and 4
last match week 3 is aug 6th, first match week 4 is aug 26th
weird
oh yea could be that
they said its cuz of that
its just always monkey tracer sombra mirror
what patch is that
Happy gap
june patch?
also
another reason for happy tracer on the first point
is cuz happy will be their main tracer player
in a tracer sombra meta
no more switching
wtf is 2.5.0.1 patch
the patch before this new one
ah
yeah probably .1 for bugfixes tho right?
what is this comp
widow nerf patch zz
what are either of these comps
is the stream laggy for anybody else?
not for me
no
like it feels like there are fps drops when fast camera movements happen
mer1t?
Oh so this is the newest patch?
no
previous
the one before this one
to live
mhm
ah
SHUUUUUU
What a banger
c9?
SHUUUUUU
Shu almost went crazy
how did 3 of them just disappear
damn
JUST TOUCH
HOLY
HES ALONE
bro no one was there to touch
ALNOE
fym touch?
they couldāve won that ššš
they could touch
Yooooo this match is going to be sooooooo gooooood
yeah wym touch? All dead and Sombra had to tp out
ana was too far away
wasnāt sure about the sombra translocator cd
zzzzzzzzzzzz
Ram is literally full HP staring her in the face
what ana gonna do touching??
merit was there but yeah
could he have tpd in
Ana instantly dies before getting to the point
Overestimating ana walk speed*
they killed 3
peli couldve reset the timer
Someone is right in front of her
he doesn't make it
no
yeah would be dead on arrival
Ana is slow
She's not ball
yeah but you said that hes alone when merit was there with someone
pelican was a step away from touching when he translocated at almost full hp
he def couldve reset the timer
he used jump to get near ana
but idk if thats enough
very entertaining either way!
houston trolls
LET'S GO FLORIDA
oh alright
#anteup
fearless reset timer twice before dying
NO ONE CAN STOP FLORIDA MAN
ik
Wasn't it 3? Or was the third one Peli?
sombra E was questionable
Alright
nah
Idk who to root for tbh.
I forgot Atlanta existed
they're both good
houston exists too
dont forget 3-2 game
:)))))))))))
I think Mayhem can pull it off
im just rooting for a close series
ooo new map
trashmap
midtown exists
first point is cancer
SPITFIRE COPIUM
gibraltar, numbani is added to map pool they're so garbage
violet?
what is outlaws actually doing ?
we are seeing why mercy is never played in pro play
Why the fuck are they on rein in numbani
she is dumpstered by a decent hitscan
Wait who are these Florida weirdos with rein brig on numbani
violet is GRIEFING
And theyāre winning??
violet got money guys
SOMEONE
Everyone does
i swear one week ur mod and the next one ur not, pick one
now the momentum shifts
Gunba the goat ?
umm
im so confused
i guess u can lamp and shift ana
its his one trick
ok much better
what a fukcin nade
- why was florida on rein in numbani 1st 2. why did outlaws sturggle to cap numbani 1st against a tank that didnt play highground
WHAT A NADE
fuckin sick nade
xd
STOP BEING PROACTIVE
lmao
Like bro
Is Someone allergic to one tricking Winston?
Why does Pro like to be quirky and play Queen randomly?
xd
mayhem loses the mirror
yep
bro
disgusting
Okay what does Viol2t do there
die
actually such a joke
fkn remove it
not play mercy
why does a cowboy has a grenade in the first place
a cowboy has a revolver and a fkn whip
not some grenade
better than some grenade
makes him better at dealing dives
that follows 200 meters
Striker back in shock again??
Numbani A is literally Alcatraz
ye
Howās it gonna go this time?š¤£š¤£
isn't circuit too
as if there wasnt enough dive already
Remember 4 Dva's Nerf This? Now we have 4 Ana's Nanoboost Administered
SHEESH
How did Fearless survive, he was literally in the whole of the enemy team
Also 4 Anas lol
checkmate trolled
happy dies too many times bro
GG 2-0
oh
i dunno what to say
Might be a 3-0 honestly. Sigma map coming up
i had 3-2 to outlaws
reverse sweep yeah?
trust
3-2 is the play
if violet didnt troll and died 2 times or if happy didnt die 2 times to a winston houston could complete the map
i know there are lot of "ifs" but thats what would've been cuz houston just threw and shu saved the day again but a man cant do everything
If Outlaws decide to Play SIG in circuit it's Jover
kinda fax
@SFShock @LukeminoO Lukemino and renko improving the team culture exponentially:
I don't trust Fearless Sig and Gargoyle is mid
gargoyle dva is one of the best in the league bro
what are u on about
he ate a dragon no
I'm talking about Sig
thx
fk numbani
I knew striker would be back
Striker is INEVITABLE
why is Gargoyle not on sigma
that is what i am saying
It's Jover for Houston
wtf was that dragon
4min
Maybe Gargoyle isn't needed
ye

