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uncut drum
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um

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is twitter bugging for anyone?

static pond
cedar oasis
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He sucked

static pond
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Twitter fine for me now

uncut drum
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this is my twitter rn

cedar oasis
uncut drum
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its fine on moblie

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but not on pc

cedar oasis
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Restart ur pc

static pond
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Rate limit

cedar oasis
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This could be God's way of telling you to get off twitter and to touch grass

mortal cipher
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Lol

wispy yacht
worn falcon
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Hope they fire Hadi too

karmic charm
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so lethal isnt going to titans

karmic charm
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hadi helps the team so much

tropic herald
regal bough
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Lethal in tendies

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https://twitter.com/afterlifeow/status/1678464100547051520?s=46&t=VhYEFEHCbS8jd6n8-Xwapw

Afterlife (@AfterlifeOW)

The enemy stirs. We must halt them.

Afterlife. Contenders Summer Series. Ready to fight.

šŸ¦@RhynO_OW
šŸ“ŗ@iron_overwatch
ā˜®ļø@Haventhedude
šŸ‘æ@zeruhh1
šŸ„· @Lethal_ow
āš’ļø@fixblu
ā˜ ļø@Meadxr

šŸ@HellojVenom
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#ToTheHeavens | #OWPTP2023ā›µļø

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karmic charm
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hopefully he isn't forced on tracer again šŸ’€

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he will be good if on hitscans

static pond
weary talon
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Have we got any news on ojee s9mm and speed?

slow lake
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Why would NYXL drop LEP lol.

regal bough
weary talon
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Thats it?

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Ojee and speed free agents ?

regal bough
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I think so

weary talon
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Sucks

dreamy cave
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The 13th is going to be soooooooo fun
I get to see a good match with Florida and Houston
Then I get a EZ ATL 3-0 sweep
And lastly a clean 0-3 shock L

weary talon
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Ah sh

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That sounds cool

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Have fun

regal bough
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Ojee to nyxl prediction

dreamy cave
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I hope so ^

uncut drum
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why lep

slow lake
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idk

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He seemed fine tbh, even good at points

dreamy cave
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Nyxl had wins this owl season. Which is all I could ask for atm. Baby steps

slow lake
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Also this means if they ever wanna run Fitz on DPS, they need Aniyun or Creative on Lucio or Brig

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They looked like they were getting better tho, so why ruin a good thing

earnest leaf
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just keep fits on dps

dreamy cave
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^

slow lake
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Not like there's alot of top tier MS players they can pick up

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Fitz Lucio is incoming

static pond
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Remember then bench sbb and played sombra

slow lake
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Changgoon was lowkey cooking before this

static pond
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Ana fits is understandable

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But ms hell no

slow lake
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Fitz Brig was fine for the situation, but if they're seriously planning on playing that full time, they're delusional

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Sucks more because they actually were looking okay towards the end, but now their best player might be trapped in MS Jail permanently šŸ’€

static pond
stoic bronze
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Looks like aniyun might get called up

loud elbow
deft wolf
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i wouldnt say carry but he was good

hot onyx
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maybe NYXL full korean

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Aiden or Hyunjae could replace Lep

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maybe even SanGuiNar if he's still going

feral zodiac
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Nyxl washed

loud elbow
deft wolf
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fits?

loud elbow
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debatable

deft wolf
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creative?

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also his playtime could be inconsistant at times

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bc fits support

loud elbow
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I mean, Halo played like 2 games and got benched after so her leaving was inevitable tbh

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but like, them taking away one of their star players is just fucking mind-breaking

tropic herald
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Okay basically

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The meta

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Has actually tightened up

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To where MS basically only play brig

split flume
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An entire season of sombra

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Good job blizz Okay

tepid ibex
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both of them have definitely been way more impactful

north relic
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FITS has been throwing the season

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by going ana

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do a decay and bench yourself if changoon wants you on ana

static pond
tawdry hamlet
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Halo brig is cheeks so understandable move, if they don't sign another support this will be a certified bruh moment

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I cannot fathom a world where a player with like 2 months of actual t2 playtime will do well in owl

north relic
tawdry hamlet
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I mean aniyun not halo

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I know halo was on Boston

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Imagine they ran fits as full time support now

old salmon
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what has been the most even matchup in the worldcup?

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every game just feels like a complete roll

spare pecan
chilly mauve
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STOP

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JEBAITING

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"toronto delieant"

spare pecan
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šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­

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Almost

rustic roost
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bro

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glads offered him

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300k and he turned it down

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theres NO WAY defiant dropped half a mil on a tank player when they already have coluge

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the best bait i seen was the uh

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joobi to sfshock

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or magicm8ball to eternal

stoic bronze
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Danteh to mayhem

cedar oasis
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Striker to shock

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They need to replace that bum heesang

karmic charm
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yeah cos striker is so much better

plush grail
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If striker comes back to shock that team will be in shambles

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The future shock dps will know that if they dont perform

feral zodiac
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Biggest falloff in esports history

plush grail
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They'll just grab striker out of retirement

karmic charm
cedar oasis
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Striker is better then heesang

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And crusty might be able to controller him

karmic charm
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clearly crusty cant control him

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and striker is ass lol

plush grail
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yes i agree whomegalul

cedar oasis
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He can control him

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For a short time

karmic charm
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and heesang has not been good at all but id trust him to improve more than id trust striker to be more than a tracer reaper player with a shitty mental

cedar oasis
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The only needs to make him stay for half a season

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And violet is no longer there

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Crusty is a bum so I wouldn't trust him to coach rookies

karmic charm
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he coached rookie violet

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rookie choi

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rookie smurf

feral zodiac
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Striker is not him

keen abyss
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OWL has had so many fall offs

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valiant won stage 4 season 1 then proceeded to go 0-7 with practically the same roster

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nyxl went from the best team to the 3rd best team to 7th to 14th to 19th

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shanghai went from the indisputable best ow roster ever (for debatably 2 seasons in a row) to a team struggling to uphold their legacy outside of joats to the second worst team in the league

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Iā€™d say 2022 -> 2023 Dallas bc losing chiyo fielder and fearless does hit the roster pretty hard but they were overrated as fuck past year

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they were sorta shit when they couldnā€™t force hivemind brawl

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and wouldnā€™t have won shit last year if they hadnā€™t lucked into hivemind 2 tourneys in a row

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I donā€™t think I need to elaborate on the tale of the Vancouver titans

feral zodiac
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Are shanghai the second worst team in the league?

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Spitfire had pretty huge drop off post s1 and 2

karmic charm
karmic charm
feral zodiac
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Currently

karmic charm
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nah

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valiant are

feral zodiac
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Assuming worst is Vegas

karmic charm
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yees

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yes

feral zodiac
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Is sp9rkle on a team this season?

karmic charm
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altohugh

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new vegas roster might be better than valiant

karmic charm
feral zodiac
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Oh nice

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Did the stuff with netease make ow2 unavailable in China and Korea or just in China

karmic charm
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just china

cedar oasis
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Kinda cope saying a team lucked out in a meta

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By that logic shanghai lucked out that the meta had ball

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And shock lucked out that the meta had doom

karmic charm
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who said that

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oh

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supa

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shock still wouldve won 2019 without doom meta

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and dragons wouldve still won 2021 without ball

crisp carbon
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yeah i think there are meta loosers but not really meta winners especially with the current one

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actually if you are an owl team and still dont have a roster that can play winston tracer sombra dive your management is horrible cause i dunno but from what i have seen this composition is the main stay of competitive play

cedar oasis
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No shots dragons win 2021 without ball

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Dallas take that one

karmic charm
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no they don't lol

sullen berry
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Whose ready for the Toronto upswing?

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midseason they qualify only to not make it out of knockouts

cedar oasis
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Fate can't play monkey...

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He's mid simple really

cedar oasis
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Wait is lep a ginger

uncut wigeon
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do yall know why i cant see chengdu anymore in the shop?

hollow briar
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They removed it

uncut wigeon
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why though

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what happened

hollow briar
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They ran out of money

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Couldnā€™t find more money

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No more team

weary talon
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They were too cool for owl

restive forge
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last szn was the last hunters season

uncut drum
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kick bobby out

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fuck the bastard

mortal cipher
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Make blizzard not Lizzard

weary talon
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What will this mean for the league

uncut drum
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better we hope

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more investment

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a better ceo to make a better game

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give devs more worth

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not treat them like shit

burnt anchor
# cedar oasis He's mid simple really

Maybe mid now but fate was incredible then and if u actually watched the grand finals then you'd know he also played rein and monkey and did very well

uncut drum
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and increase the eyes on the league

burnt anchor
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Fr I miss when devs got to make good stuff and not money ploys that the higher ups asked for

plush grail
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@cedar oasis

mortal cipher
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Ahd so it begins

cedar oasis
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No way ur saying fate in 2021 was top 5

cedar oasis
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If it is

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Then striker is gonna ba announced soon

uncut drum
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this week is when all the announcemnets are happing

burnt anchor
uncut drum
stray quarry
cedar oasis
static pond
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Shock is a joke

cedar oasis
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So true

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This is why ur the best rob

static pond
mortal cipher
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Wow

static pond
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Wow

cloud latch
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Wow

static pond
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Shock is a bigger joke now

uncut drum
static pond
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How tf you trade heesang to titans

uncut drum
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everyone was like huh

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wow

static pond
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Nah shock I need answers

plush grail
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????

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legit

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0 leakers got this right

cedar oasis
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Dam that's crazy

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Titans just got worse šŸ’€

static pond
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Oh wait

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Titans are missing a hs sylll

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Still*

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Heesang could have a good future on Boston

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Ngl tho I bet teams were gunning for him but shock gave him to titans to keep other teams weaker lol

regal bough
plush grail
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im p sure every leak surrounding shock is fake now

cedar oasis
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Yea no one leaked heesang leaving

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Leakers in shambles rn

static pond
burnt anchor
plush grail
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u went from like a bottom 5

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to bottom 4 support

spare pecan
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Ojee is worse though

spare pecan
uncut drum
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they will

spare pecan
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But why

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Luke over Finn?

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Nt finn

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Mb

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Vindaim

tropic herald
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crusty needs his white boys or else he cant succeed

earnest leaf
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Nah don't tell me shock are actually gonna sign striker now

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It has to be probe they get

cloud latch
earnest leaf
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They did get better in s4 after he left

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And still placed 4th

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But if the meta stays the same striker is a bad pick up

plush grail
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isnt striker a good sombra

earnest leaf
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It's eh

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But it feels like every sombra but lip is eh

plush grail
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ur moving the goalpost

mortal cipher
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Well Lip is the best Sombra so thatā€™s a given

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But thatā€™s besides the point removing Lip since itā€™s Lip is he good

plush grail
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Comparing a player on a failing team to the #1 on the same role is dumb

uncut drum
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i am guessing they are not going to be playing on the most recent patch as it just came out and the matches start this week

earnest leaf
mortal cipher
mortal cipher
karmic charm
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winston tracer sombra

keen cargo
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do we know who shock r replacing heesang with

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striker? lol

uncut drum
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probe we thing

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think

keen cargo
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makes sense

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but watch crusty bring back ans

obtuse ridge
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does anyone know where danteh is going

uncut drum
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he retired

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and left to canada to go stay with his gf

static pond
obtuse ridge
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ohhh

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damn thats sad but good for him šŸ’”

static pond
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Nah it good

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He was most likely stress out with owl

plush grail
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Fake

static pond
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Collage esports just allows him to do something without being so competitive

plush grail
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Ow players dont have gfs

weary talon
uncut drum
plush grail
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Enter my ass

cedar oasis
tawdry willow
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They got super on defiant bruh

Screenshot_20230711_222236_Twitter.jpg
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Its the very real toronto defiant

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With the very real sf shock

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And very real super

stoic bronze
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Why didnt they just get lethal instead of heesang, much better hs

cloud latch
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heesang could be worth more

tawdry willow
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depends who offers a more valueable trade or who gets released

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if the player gets released he can join another team

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of his choice

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if he's traded he's going to another team for another player

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Im just glad they didnt trade Proper he's SFS last saving grace

static pond
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Vancouver did a statement on the whole they knew the whole time

earnest leaf
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Basically she fucked up and knew she did not properly investigate the situation and is sorry for it

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But it wasn't a case of she just knew everything about aspire and decided to ignore it

cobalt moss
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Oh shiit they removed the chengdu hunters team store

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Rip chengdu šŸ™

uncut drum
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Ok this is a bit much

stoic bronze
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Theres essentially no point in signing renkofor the shock

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Renko and Luke have almost the exact same hero pools

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As well as overlapping with finn

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Only Luke makes sense since he can play main support

mortal cipher
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Yeah

stoic bronze
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Luke and finn w shock duo

mortal cipher
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Apparently Shock canā€™t do full Korean

stoic bronze
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They need to be mixed to succeed

earnest leaf
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Sombra being hard meta all year and heesang/vindaim struggled with their roles in the comp

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I guess their hope is luke can cover the brig better and whoever they get on dps can fill sombra out better

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which I think is gonna be probe

stoic bronze
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Probe has a good sombra

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Lenny can play sombra and heesang on tracer

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Then we got faith crimzo and white boy Winston punk

worn falcon
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who was best sombra after Lip?

stoic bronze
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Birdring

mortal cipher
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Happy

mortal cipher
north relic
mortal cipher
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yeah

chilly mauve
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or atleast imo

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in 2021 i would agree

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also

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shanghai r really good underdogs for this 2nd stage

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they dont have fletank anymore

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heesu viper cracked dps line and good in sombra tracer meta

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they have an actual tank āœ…

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remind u that tank won 2021 in a sombra meta

stoic bronze
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Dynasty is such a huge letdown

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Belosrea experiment clearly isnt working

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But dragons are still gonna be pretty bad

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Actually, you can play zen, ana with a dive comp

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Nvm

loud elbow
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here me out

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Kevster on shock

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Kevster plays the Tracer and Proper plays Sojourn (or any dps that's needed)

stoic bronze
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Venom to shock, less expensive and still a pretty good tracer

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A little bit worse than kev

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But good enough

loud elbow
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at this point Shock just needs someone that can play Tracer so Proper isn't forced to stay on her all the time tbh, I think they'd be willing to spend the big bucks on acquiring kevster

stoic bronze
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Venom might be one of the best tracer one tricks in fa rn, but I cant think of anyone else atm

loud elbow
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either Venom or Kevster works tbh

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for what the Shock need

stoic bronze
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Kev need to wait for next year

loud elbow
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Aren't they disbanding at the end of the year?

stoic bronze
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Yes

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Unless somebody buys glads

loud elbow
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I think the Shock are going to be the first to look to acquire him tbh, or Defiant if they can survive their current implosion

stoic bronze
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Like maybe sentinels buys glads

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Defiant should keep spectra

chilly mauve
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Oh

loud elbow
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don't forget Mei

chilly mauve
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Ur talking abt next year

loud elbow
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yeah

stoic bronze
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Proper sombra lmao

loud elbow
chilly mauve
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letā€™s hope we donā€™t get 2 years full of sombra tracer meta

chilly mauve
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I donā€™t tolerate that

stoic bronze
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Weird that pelican is on the sombra and happy on tracer

chilly mauve
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outlaws love trolling so funny

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They did this same move 2 years ago

stoic bronze
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Meta shouldve been ram rush with cass,mei, lucio, and bap

chilly mauve
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Playoff time

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They switched danteh and happy

stoic bronze
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Outlaws best team

chilly mauve
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On thier roles

loud elbow
chilly mauve
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mhm

loud elbow
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and it technically is

stoic bronze
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Still no gargoyle playtime

chilly mauve
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it is?

stoic bronze
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So sad

chilly mauve
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Itā€™s a Ana meta no?

loud elbow
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if it's brawl some comps run baptiste

stoic bronze
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Thought it was bap

chilly mauve
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Well yeah but the way I see it heading

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More of a Ana meta than bap

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Cuz sombra tracer r still meta

stoic bronze
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Its either gonna be rush or still monkey

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So ye, no bap ig

chilly mauve
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Itā€™s legit the same fuxking meta as last stage

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actually anyoying

loud elbow
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they just need to nerf sombra and tracer again

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and buff reaper

chilly mauve
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Winston monkey everywhere but payload and certain control

loud elbow
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I want reaper meta

chilly mauve
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bro

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I want genji meta

stoic bronze
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Sombra getting reworked next season I think

chilly mauve
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Again

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Or echo meta

loud elbow
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reaper echo

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I miss that meta

chilly mauve
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Nah nah

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Ball echo meta

loud elbow
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the weird reaper dive comps

chilly mauve
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Ball echo Ashe mercy zen meta

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I love that meta

stoic bronze
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Pelican dominates

chilly mauve
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well yeah but

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Thatā€™s not what I mean

stoic bronze
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But violet mercy would be so weird to watch

chilly mauve
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In general I like that meta to watch and play

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I think we saw that meta last in 2021

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It was ball sigma echo Ashe mercy zen

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in like contenders

rustic roost
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owl retirement home is CRAZY

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im so mad that match didnt get streamed

rustic roost
earnest leaf
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kevster proper would be an unfair dps line

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just a top 3 tracer at all times

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actually just the two best tracers on the same dps line I should say

tawdry hamlet
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Tr33 K1ng s9mm all on one contenders team feels so op as a dps line

earnest leaf
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I hope s9mm either gets a new team this year or next season

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kinda got unlucky having proper on his team first season and then speedily the next

cloud latch
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@keen abyss named yourself after your idol?

karmic charm
rustic roost
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oh

rustic roost
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they just poached all the good dps talent so other teams couldnt get

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and even then lost to timeless

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WHY CANT I FIND THE MATCH

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I KNOW IT WAS STREAMED SOMEWHERE

hasty hound
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Stalk3r echo would b p cool to watch

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idk how dong or hawk are on ball tho

keen abyss
hasty hound
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what are u question marking me for

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I've not seen them play ball

keen abyss
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the dong was literally picked up solely to play ball

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and he ended up being shaped into the MT player of the team with hawk coming in as a specialist

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he's a top ball in the league (supposedly) and his apparently really good with ball tech

hasty hound
tropic herald
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He is generational on ball

hasty hound
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yea i only started watching this year so im not super familiar with all the signings and such

rustic roost
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hes insane w ball bc before this season he was a borderline ball otp

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but somehow gator turned him into a top tier winston

earnest leaf
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having fielder/chiyo as your backline helps immensely with it

wispy yacht
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when gator signed donghak gator already knew he was going to be one of, if not the best monkey/ball player in the league

hasty hound
wispy yacht
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rmb that gator couldve signed junbin or marvel

earnest leaf
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They were going to sign junbin

wispy yacht
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actually nvm junbin just signed for shock

earnest leaf
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but shock pulled some bullshit and got him first

wispy yacht
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yea

earnest leaf
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But honestly atl just needed a competent winston player which donghak is

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they don't need him to gap fearless

wispy yacht
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gator said donghak had s tier monkey/ball mechanics

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and hawk could pick every other hero

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so in a non monkey/ball meta hawk is there to pick up the slack

earnest leaf
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yep pretty much a meta proof team

wispy yacht
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gator signed donghak as a monkey/ball specialist

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not a mmt

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to me it sounds like gator is still gonna play hawk on shit like rein, queen, doom

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(if they ever are meta)

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if it goes into a dva meta atl will actually be unstoppable

loud elbow
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I doubt we'll get dva meta unless Ram gets nerfed

earnest leaf
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it's probably gonna stay sombra winston

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unless we get a drastic balance patch before playoffs

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that heavily fucks sombra or winston

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or tracer

loud elbow
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if winston gets nerfed we'll probably just go back to Ball

rustic roost
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eh

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it would take a lot to get ball to be played in owl consistently

wispy yacht
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giga buff bastion so we can get a sigma poke šŸ’Æ

loud elbow
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not really

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ball is already pretty strong as is rn

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just that the meta doesn't favor him because of monke

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and sombra

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remove those two, and ball sees relevance again

weary talon
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I think a hog meta would be funny

loud elbow
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I think if Hog was done right he'd be a legitimate threat to the current dive meta we have

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I mean, Hog is one of the better counters to just dive in general but the balance team done did him dirty

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but then if Hog is meta, JQ becomes meta by default

keen abyss
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hook one shot threat and giga sustain

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hog shouldnā€™t ever be in a position where he can reasonably counter dive

loud elbow
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I forgot there were some people who actually think Hog was good when Kiriko was op

keen abyss
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hog was viable

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hog should never be viable

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when hog is viable the game is in a terrible state

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season 2 was genuinely unplayable for any tank player who didnā€™t want to play hog or orisa

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and dps and support players had a constant threat of one shot at all times from a 700 hp hero with a 350 hp self heal on an 8 sec cd

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it was a fucking awful state for the game as a whole and a ton of people I know literally just didnā€™t play comp until he was nerfed

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and he isnā€™t any better in pro play either

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his gameplay is so shallow and unnuanced itā€™s literally just farm for one shot cd

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often including snipers and m*rcy itā€™s so gross

uncut drum
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torb time

uncut drum
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mfc out sad

sullen berry
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mfc augCopium

uncut drum
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no frogger vs owl team

sullen berry
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this is a universe where they rematch vs Kraken esports, beat SPG 4-3

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and then

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face hangzhou spark

uncut drum
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who zero?

balmy wolf
cedar oasis
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Flats

feral zodiac
slate siren
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shy on the new soldier buff... wow

#

even the new sojourn

heavy ingot
#

J

amber cradle
#

Is owl back today or tomorrow?

unique root
#

tomorrow

stoic bronze
#

W no more midfiant

#

W xl

#

God, what is this, o2 blast, o3 splash, o4 dash

uncut drum
#

is it me or the summer stage open is better than the spring stage one

#

closer games and maps

#

like this honeypot and nt one was so fucking close the whole game

karmic charm
crisp carbon
#

their only new pickups are spectra and opener right?

#

i dont think that will make the difference and turn them into a top tier team ngl

#

especially if its still monkey sombra tracer hard meta

weary talon
#

At the beginning of the season people were saying the same thing with defiant because they had american tornado

brave igloo
#

Will dps doom return to overwatch 2?

crisp carbon
#

He better not

chilly mauve
north relic
#

only Ashe that competes with lip is mn3 (itā€™s his one trick)

cedar oasis
#

Don't forget edigod

north relic
#

ass

chilly mauve
#

But alright

#

whatever floats ur boat

north relic
#

its the correct take

cedar oasis
#

Edison is a solid player with a good hero pool

#

Combine that with sparkle who is an elite flex dps you have a very good dps duo able to cover alot of Important heroes

uncut drum
#

i dont care this is mystery heroes# it still counts

image.png
#

here he comes

crisp carbon
#

did sauna play a single match so far?

uncut drum
#

yes

crisp carbon
#

i think all the matches i watched were only played by checkmate and mer1t

weary talon
#

Sauna played

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A few maps in the pro am

#

?

#

I think

crisp carbon
#

ok wild i dont remember seeing him at all

#

i hope we actually get to see him play more often on this next team

weary talon
#

Where is he now

uncut drum
#

he is going london

crisp carbon
#

we dont know but if blink is right london it seems

uncut drum
#

that is what leaks are saying

spare pecan
#

Are shock not gonna announce the new players? Do we just gotta wait šŸ˜­

weary talon
uncut drum
crisp carbon
rugged quest
#

So barely any playtime and when he got it, he couldnt play his best heropool

hasty hound
crisp carbon
rugged quest
#

but he obviously wont play tracer over checkmate

crisp carbon
#

yeah its kinda weird to pick up a tracer player when you have checkmate no?

rugged quest
#

but merit checkmate were so solid that there rly werent any niche situations in the spring stage

#

way better for his career to go to london that seriously needs a solid tracer

#

happy for him

crisp carbon
#

real its probably kinda sad to be on a team just to end up being a benchwarmer

thin relic
#

I think sauna played a map or two of reaper?

rugged quest
#

im pretty confident he played mei

chilly mauve
#

I mean what makes u say heā€™s the best hitscan outside of tracer sombra

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like hard hitscan

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Iā€™m not saying heā€™s bad

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Like heā€™s clearly top 5

hasty hound
#

other people said he was; i haven't seen any of his hitscan gameplay. Just going off of word of mouth šŸ˜­

chilly mauve
#

lol heā€™s inflated rn

#

heā€™s still amazing at hard hitscan

#

but there are a lot of other hitscans that can compete

hasty hound
#

icic

chilly mauve
#

and now circuit Royale is back in the map pool

#

So maybe we will see more widow sojourn hanzo type comps

hasty hound
#

Mhm

chilly mauve
#

Imo I think happys got the better hard hitscan

#

But I am a biased outlaws fan

uncut drum
rugged quest
hasty hound
#

but didn't naur if he was like him

keen abyss
uncut drum
#

it is not even real top 500

#

but that game mode is hell with the amount of rng that goes on

chilly mauve
#

todays plat chat is the best

#

best plat chat i have watched

static pond
feral zodiac
#

Huh

split flume
chilly mauve
#

vindaim to where

#

VINDAIM TO SHANGHAI

#

PLS

mortal cipher
uncut drum
#

why would dragons get vindam

#

dynasty most likely

mortal cipher
#

An actual MS

#

the likely is back to Dynasty

chilly mauve
#

shanghai top 3 apac team if they get vindaim

mortal cipher
#

Yeah

uncut drum
#

leaks are he is going to dynasty

chilly mauve
#

FUCK man

mortal cipher
#

Yeah thatā€™s the realistic one

#

But Shanghai is possible

uncut drum
#

kirllan will move to fs

#

and lesomin will be removed

mortal cipher
#

Yeah

static pond
#

How did shock get the best contenders roster and do so bad with them

#

Even crusty was praising them before

mortal cipher
#

Because itā€™s too good to be tru

#

Crusty needs a non Korean to be good it seems

stray quarry
#

did shock sign a new dps yet

mortal cipher
#

No

earnest leaf
static pond
#

They scrim against Seoul,dragons and shock when those teams were at there peak

stray quarry
#

hope a team signs venom soon

mortal cipher
#

Itā€™s gonna lukmino on DPS lol

split flume
#

i think shock are probably getting probe for dps

mortal cipher
#

Yeah thatā€™s rumor

static pond
mortal cipher
#

We knew it

uncut drum
#

i didnt expect that

karmic charm
mortal cipher
#

Yeah

heavy scroll
#

me opening my pickems:

chilly mauve
#

ong

#

i had that thought

#

to do pickems

#

but like man i dont want to

untold lagoon
#

can someone teatch me genji wanna impress my crush

#

its ok if u cant

heavy scroll
untold lagoon
#

k thx

static pond
balmy wolf
stoic bronze
#

Let's go probe

#

Better sombra

keen cargo
#

probe looks like a baby looking into a ring light in a baby photoshoot in that picture

#

no hate its just what im seeing

static pond
chilly storm
#

Is lukemino content creator?

plush grail
#

IT'S

#

REAL???

loud elbow
#

I canā€™t tell if itā€™s a W or an L

feral zodiac
#

I say W

earnest leaf
#

They got their token white boy

mortal cipher
#

They have the their Win condition a non Korean

split flume
#

one american boy with the korean lads

mortal cipher
#

They need the American player

#

At least one

feral zodiac
#

You are South Koreans, plus Mark

weary talon
stoic bronze
#

Yes fish man

plush grail
#

shock do need 1 white boy to win

#

when they had full korean they were bottom 5

#

its gonna be amazing if they suddenly become top tier again

static pond
mortal cipher
#

Wow

stoic bronze
#

What's the point of renko

#

Oh, perma bench finn

#

Unless its kiri

mortal cipher
#

Watch him bench Finn lol

#

They have non American line

#

Non Korean *

weary talon
#

White boy moth coming back to save shock

stoic bronze
#

He might for moira and zen

#

Lukemino is playing ms either way

mortal cipher
#

Lukmino is the new Moth

stoic bronze
#

Fr

mortal cipher
#

Yeah

#

They need two American players at the least

stoic bronze
#

Only missing an American main tank

mortal cipher
#

True

#

They sacrificed the American tank for the double American support

uncut drum
#

If shock lose to Vegas now I would laugh my ass off

#

Or lose to any lower team

mortal cipher
mortal cipher
stoic bronze
#

Shock vs nyxl will be interesting

mortal cipher
#

Got swept

unique root
mortal cipher
#

Yeah

mortal cipher
chilly mauve
#

Vegas players r playing on ping

mortal cipher
#

Yeah

chilly mauve
#

At like 3 am

mortal cipher
#

So probably not

chilly mauve
#

especially in a sombra tracer meta

mortal cipher
#

Yeah

chilly mauve
#

Where every microsecond matters

uncut drum
mortal cipher
#

NYXL almost beat them if it wasnā€™t for a c9 they would swept the Shock

unique root
#

is that the map where kellan shattered the wall

mortal cipher
#

Held

earnest leaf
#

shock still win that map I think

unique root
mortal cipher
mortal cipher
earnest leaf
#

nah shock still win

karmic charm
#

lukemino shock lmao

#

crusty and his white boys

earnest leaf
#

vindaim would have beated a bit earlier to keep max up and proper has an angle with overclock

karmic charm
#

every season

earnest leaf
#

alongside finn having bapt window ready to go

#

and also heesang 25% off ult

mortal cipher
#

Maybe

mortal cipher
static pond
#

General manager

#

For Bostion

#

Well player manager

uncut drum
#

Surgery for what?

keen abyss
unique root
# keen abyss šŸš©

its the golden state warriors fan in me i see an sf team and i have to get emotionally attached to the name

karmic charm
#

supa be nice you plat player

keen abyss
#

thatā€™s platinum exterminator to you

karmic charm
keen abyss
#

no diagnosis

karmic charm
#

so you are

keen abyss
#

I very well could be

mortal cipher
#

Lol

hazy gorge
#

Does anyone know how I can log out from my overwatch league pickā€™em?

karmic charm
stoic bronze
#

Why would you want to tho

unique root
#

wrong acc

#

it happened to me too i was so pissed off bc i couldn't log out LOL

#

but yea cookies

cloud latch
spare pecan
#

What contenders team is probe from

cloud latch
#

(not the player)

full lichen
#

Did Mayhem cut Sauna or did London trade for him?

#

Also, I hope Mayhem pick up S9mm to replace Sauna

tropic herald
tropic herald
cloud latch
worn falcon
#

Who doesn't love the Shock

spare pecan
#

Me

north relic
#

me

hasty hound
#

So normal owl resumes tommorow?

elder elm
#

hey what happened to the chengdu hunters? i only knew about them being removed from the overwatch league because of a tiktok but it was pretty vague

chilly mauve
#

I only love outlaws

chilly mauve
#

They got removed

gaunt acorn
fast tusk
#

which tracer do you think is better. 2023 stalk3rs tracer or 2022 propers tracer ?

chilly mauve
#

2022 proper

obtuse ridge
#

im gonna miss danteh šŸ’”

chilly mauve
#

I donā€™t

#

Cuz heā€™s still in collegiate

obtuse ridge
#

well yeah

#

but like is the collegiate gonna be televised?

chilly mauve
#

Yeah

#

and atleast he isnā€™t getting hard punished by sombras

stoic bronze
obtuse ridge
#

has their been any other changes to the glads besides tank?

stoic bronze
#

No

#

This is marve1's first real season

static pond
#

He was on Seoul

chilly mauve
#

s9mm to vancouver

chilly mauve
stoic bronze
#

2018

#

Actually

#

šŸ¤“

chilly mauve
#

and 2019

#

and 2022 valient

stoic bronze
#

2022 was not a real marve1 season

#

2020 was one of his good years

rustic roost
#

@karmic charm i take back what i said about vega

cobalt moss
#

yess owl tmrw cant wait!!

dreamy cave
#

I'm off the next two days and I get to fill it with owl

dreamy cave
#

Oh I forgot there was the finals for the contenders

#

It's probably not gonna happen, but I'm rooting for honey pot to win

stray quarry
#

someone matched against the houston outlaws in team queue

#

itā€™s so over

rustic roost
#

i saw that tweet

#

some random hs team šŸ˜­

#

i havent played it with my team yet

cedar oasis
#

They have the best wisnton ever

uncut drum
weary talon
#

Hes not ready for that console masters winston

keen abyss
#

/ the person who literally defined sombra and forced her into meta

#

he did just as much if not more with less

#

and his main tank was off roling

fast tusk
#

ok im not talking about proper in 2023 im talking about proper in 2022

karmic charm
#

proper didnt have the best supp line in 2022 either

#

but 2023 stalk3r clears on tracer specifically

fast tusk
#

oh

#

without mentioning names the 2022 and 2023 for shock is confusing

uncut drum
#

i feel sad for honey pot

earnest leaf
#

2022 proper tracer was better

#

stalker's tracer this year is still insane

#

just given a much easier enviroment to succeed in

rustic roost
earnest leaf
#

best way to put it is without proper that shock roster was maybe slightly above average at best

#

Without stalker atlanta is probably the best team still and at worst top 2

rustic roost
#

ill give it to you hes the first player to master sombra in ow2

#

but come on

keen abyss
#

people literally

#

play sombra because lip is so dominant at her

#

they study lip vods after losing to atl

rustic roost
#

that is just not true lmao

keen abyss
#

that is what gator said

rustic roost
#

sombra would be meta without lip

keen abyss
#

in his interview

rustic roost
#

so what?

plush grail
#

ah yes they play sombra because of lip, not because her kit is insane with dive

keen abyss
#

it's a combination

rustic roost
#

sombra tracer would be meta if lip was in the league or not

earnest leaf
#

Lip sombra probably has one of the widest gaps between him and other competition than we've seen other people who've mastered other heroes

rustic roost
#

meta is the best heroes for the sitaution

keen abyss
#

and a team

#

can define that meta

earnest leaf
#

and it's fair to say without lip there is a possibility so team tried out sombra so heavily

rustic roost
#

just like if proper wasnt playing last season soj would still be meta

keen abyss
#

like dallas defined the reaper meta in playoffs

rustic roost
#

tracer sombra has been meta since even before owl started

#

i was running it in scrims all the way back in march

rustic roost
#

sombra isnt meta BECAUSE lip plays her well

earnest leaf
#

That could be possible, but it's also possible that without lip sombra doesn't become so heavily used

rustic roost
#

no

plush grail
#

remember when sparkle made genji meta because he played him so well

rustic roost
#

i havent watched owl until this season so no

#

pro am was the first time i watched owl

earnest leaf
#

Basically it's fair to say that if lip didn't play sombra very well could still be meta

#

But it's also fair to say he might have influenced it's higher usage

rustic roost
#

no

#

its not

#

ppl were playing sombra tracer before owl started

earnest leaf
#

idc what people were playing pre owl

rustic roost
#

why not

#

thats the best indicator of what meta was without influence from lip

plush grail
#

patches can change shit

rustic roost
#

its same patch

plush grail
#

no its not

rustic roost
#

yes it is what

plush grail
#

????

#

pre owl was like 2016

rustic roost
#

bro

earnest leaf
#

pre owl I meant pre owl this season

plush grail
#

do u think 2023 and 2016 owl play on the same patch

rustic roost
#

i meant pre owl like before this season of owl

plush grail
#

thats the off-season not pre-owl

rustic roost
#

how could sombra be meta in 2016 before she even came out šŸ˜­

plush grail
#

learn words before u speak

rustic roost
#

"owl is starting again tmrw"

#

what do you think that means

#

they disbanded owl and are regrouping

#

no you fucking idiot

plush grail
#

what does pre-owl mean

#

before owl right

#

not ''inbetween seasons''

keen abyss
rustic roost
#

first of all

#

i never said pre owl

#

i said before owl started

plush grail
#

if u never said it then why did u clarify it

image.png
earnest leaf
#

ignore the vegas fan his brain doesn't work

rustic roost
#

yes after he said that

#

yea

#

sister fucker

plush grail
#

legit why even bother with someone who never even saw sbb play

rustic roost
earnest leaf
#

no one cares about sbb pushing around plumbers for one year

rustic roost
#

legit why even bother with someone dating their sister

keen abyss
keen abyss
rustic roost
#

because how would people be influecned by lipif they can't see atl scrim

#

??

keen abyss
#

because

#

the teams atl scrim can scrim other teams ??

plush grail
#

lmao

keen abyss
#
  • leaked replay codes
rustic roost
#

owl teams only scrim other owl teams

plush grail
#

my man thinks owl teams scrim in complete secret

keen abyss
#

owl teams scrim contenders teams

rustic roost
#

no atl codes were leaked

#

not atl

keen abyss
#

?????

#

lip literally leaked codes

plush grail
#

owl teams scrim contendies and tons of other teams

rustic roost
#

old ass codes

#

i saw the leak

keen abyss
#

sombra codes

rustic roost
#

i have it still

keen abyss
#

pre-owl

rustic roost
#

i watched thru every one of those codes with my team

#

most were soj

keen abyss
#

what

rustic roost
#

and also those leaks were before sombra meta

keen abyss
#

weren't most

#

ball tracer

#

and atl used sombra

rustic roost
#

which leak are you talking about

keen abyss
#

winston ana cass tracer

#

but some ball tracer sombra comps

rustic roost
#

those leaks were late

keen abyss
rustic roost
#

ppl were scrimming ball tracer sombra before that

keen abyss
#

that was february-march

earnest leaf
#

Sombra comps could have been ran before owl started or before atlanta started scrims, but all i'm saying is lip might have influenced how frequently those comps were used

rustic roost
#

no

#

what influenced it was when ball got gigabuffed

earnest leaf
#

Either you're trolling or you're refusing to read

rustic roost
#

im reading it

#

and its wrong

#

tracer sombra would be hard meta without lip

#

just like it is now

plush grail
#

real question

#

would goats happen

#

if the goats team never used it

rustic roost
#

yes

#

or some variation of it

earnest leaf
#

but as it progressed more teams leaned onto it

plush grail
earnest leaf
#

Suggesting the best team in the region who was dominant at it, might have influenced the overall usage of it

rustic roost
#

ok sure they might have influenced it slightly

#

but with or without atlanta

#

it would be hard meta

earnest leaf
#

and I disagree with that

rustic roost
#

then idk what to tell you man

#

teams were running it before any leaks or owl codes

#

and continue to run it

plush grail
#

does it even matter

#

no

rustic roost
#

dont u have a sister to date

plush grail
#

who even are u

#

some whomegalul

rustic roost
#

omg bro is known in A DISCORD SERVER

#

dont talk to me shitter

earnest leaf
#

I do not hold much merit into the dominance of a meta based off it's scrim usage before owl teams start scrimming

rustic roost
#

why dont you

plush grail
rustic roost
#

dawg you're saying no one in a discord server knows me like its a genuine insult

#

go outside

#

please

plush grail
#

are u american

earnest leaf
#

Because I believe that contenders teams more so work towards what their individual players play best rather than attempting to play the best overall comp as it's probably harder to build up the proper synergy and teamplay for the hard meta comps,

rustic roost
#

not rlly

#

aside from the otp teams

earnest leaf
#

While owl also does similar things, I think that since they generally have more resources it can be better for them to try and grind out the meta comp and improve on that

rustic roost
#

if that were true saints would be running a ton of soj

#

but they arent

#

bc its not meta

#

also why they still play on old patch

#

because meta shifting would cause too much disruption

earnest leaf
#

None of the recent patches would influence sombra comps much

#

if at all

rustic roost
#

cass nade?

#

also just in general

earnest leaf
#

maybe on certain rush heavy maps he could push some stuff out

#

But I would guess a proper sombra winston tracer dive just nukes him as usual

rustic roost
#

the recent patches definitely shifted meta

#

and if you disagree its just coping

earnest leaf
#

And other heroes would still be better options since cass has no mobility

#

It might have shifted meta for ladder play

rustic roost
#

no

#

for team play as well

earnest leaf
#

But everything is pointing towards similar stuff being ran as it was ran in the last stage

rustic roost
#

you can see that with how the recent t2 matches have been

#

a lot more jq ashe etc

earnest leaf
#

Probably because it's easier for t2 teams to play more mechanic heavy comps than try and do sombra tracer winston

rustic roost
#

no its not what

#

t2 is not that much lower than owl

#

maybe like eu t2

earnest leaf
#

Most of owl is still a decent bit better than contenders