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lethal was never rly a tracer player
Backbone sparkr sauna dps line still wouldn't get them anywhere
it would in a non dive meta
they might do a bit better in dive
bc saunas tracer is far better than lethals
Still wouldn't compare to other teams
it would get them higher than they are
Vegas might even have a good chance of beating london
With cass
yeah
Reign still dominate
It would be cass mei right
Lip cass and stalk3r mei
ram lucio bap
W charge meta
spitfire would still probably force rein if hadi hasnt got better at ram
but they could honestly still do well doing that
bc of how well they play that comp
idk about well
they can do decently
Aspire top 5 dps vid in my recommended π
i dont mean like a top team
but they can play well on the rein comp still
they have a relatively easy schedule
so
Imo
A rush meta means reign wonβt be as dominate as they were before
A lot of teams will step up in a rush meta
Prob will remain top 3
well see
would would overtake them tho
they still have best backline by far for a rush meta imho
what teams do we think are gonna force rein if they cant ram
oh yeah they will be fine
besides spitfire
so basically just hadi
Yeah
benbest maybe?
they can just commit to dva
on most maps
Hawk gonna whip out the doom again
yeah and?
Iβm not saying they are gonna be bad
does any backline come close to fielder chiyo tho
Having 4/5 on their best heroes go to 1/5 is a big difference
thejohn scrims higher than 90% of these world cup teams btw so take meta read with a grain of salt
I still think dive will be meta over rush
i think theyll both be meta
I think doomfist needs to get sniffed by some teams 
but theres far more maps where running ram is trolling than where running dva is trolling
so like 60/40 split
imo
are there any maps youd unironically play rein over ram
We will prob get a new map rotation
For the next stage
Like we will prob see busan again
Rio
Praying to god we donβt have to see rio
no
control center maybe
itd have to be the most ideally designed rein map
possible
Control - Busan
Payload - Circuit Royale, Dorado, Route 66, Gibraltar
Hybrid - Midtown, Rio, Numbani
those are the maps we havenβt seen yet
Ram is just better
better at surviving
Better at damaging
midtown 2nd for rein ??
i always see rein on there
idk about that one
symm mei is ass in ow2 but required to run rein in ow2
higkey only play rush
is the sad conundrum
midtown second is only oppressive when people don't realize how to walk up stairs
you are fighting high ground
heck if they are smart they can even just camp cart and then rotate high ground or some cheese like that
no one runs anything like junkrat that actually punishes you for running through small chokes
the issue is
what ever people would run on midtown has the advantage of being able to sit 40km away and still have los
(ashe)
or not be in the fight
(tracer)
put tracer cart and vibe
simple enough in organized play yea
lol
benjamin not gonna sniff playtime
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i dont know how i got the region wrong
2nd guess
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And i didnt get it right..
Ive never been this unlucky wtf
BRO π
DANTEH BRO
whats gone happen to danteh now anybody there to pick him up?
i dont think he wants anyone to pick him up
ah you think he is done with owl?
oh yeah i see the freedom post after the drop announcement does make it pretty clear that he wasnt feeling it anymore
Danteh has such an annoying voice (imo)
i mean he carried outlaws for like 4 years and is one of the few players left from season 1
My favorite team is be (bendover elite)
more streamer danteh!!
wait what
they're just straight up
replacing danteh with marve1
what the fuck is this tomfoolery
who are they going to have as their ram and jq player now
marvel is a good ram
i think his jq is good too
Danteh's ram is better
Danteh's JQ might be one of the best JQ's in the league
what little we did see of it he popped off
I mean
I'd rather them have marve1 on winston and danteh on jq and ram
so that way neither of them are forced to play an entire set
and they can sub in as needed
this move overall is a mega blow for glads
even if Marve1 is a good player
Marve1 diffs Danteh on every tank besides JQ, Ram, and Doom
And he's still solid on those 3
that's why I specificalyl said
have Marve1 on winston
and Danteh on those tanks
so that way they have 2 tanks they can rotate off as needed
and they're not just forcing themselves to play dive all the time
There is no use in keeping Danteh because JQ has had 2 metas, and Doom hasn't been meta since the first beta I think, the only hero Danteh would consistently play is Ram, and there's no use in switching up the players just for that one hero
At that point, Danteh pretty much becomes a specialist
This point is also kind of bad when you consider that, especially in a 3 game set, a player's mental can go bad within 2 games, it happens even in esports, so having a tank to sub in helps greatly instead of only having one tank with a weaker mental than the start of the series
Marve1 survived 2022 Boston and Valiant, and Dynasty from 2018-2021 then dominated contenders, mental is not a worry
Plus, with Marvel over Danteh, comming becomes much easier
Because the only non Korea player(s) at a time with be Kevster and/or Kai and/or Fastro
Meaning the tank can comm to supports easier
my mind wandered for a second
and thought this meant something different
Mine does the same thing lol
I was reading it and thought 'wait a minute'
see
this
but also putting trust in generational flex support babel as a certain skeleton likes to say is interesting
they dont have budget for 2 tanks
They don't have the budget to go another season
Bro o2 released their whole roster
The only player that got released and went to a non owl team was topdragon
Dreamers
The rest are on defiant, eternal, or fa
fa?
Free agent
Lol
So many guys there with potential
Probe and topdragon are owl ready
Proud and attack should go to another tendies team
Marvel is already rumored to glads
The guys are so filled with potential
already produced 9 owl players in 2023
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He doesnβt want to join a team either
He said it on stream
Heβs retiring
Or atleast from owl
Heβs still weighing collegient as an option
education makes sense
Is striker like the last OG from first year owl
Danteh just said heβs probs retired
Birdring
fearless was in owl during s1 aswell
Yeah him too
I mean technically fleta is as well
custa too if u consider a much broader range
And Jake
Unf
Probably the best first guess since I spammed Aniyun for a month
Ik but it was bound to happen
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fucking
guessed the wrong player on the right team again
How unlucky can a person get
aww hell nah 
it's the retirement home this year
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this game sucks
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idk why y'all found that difficult
fuck you
Poko 
Does anyone know where I go to watch the world cup live?
official stream is in youtube and twitch
there also are tons of watchparties by ow streamers
I found it. Feels like I had to struggle too hard to find it tho
Yznsa overrated ngl
theres a reason hes never gonnna be in owl
Yeah, he is over-reliant on a mercy pocket
What team is striker on
Haku legit carrying him rn
hes not over reliant on a mercy pocket
hes just going against shitters
and the only good players hes going against are on ping
That as well, hasn't went against any big teams
well even the shitters are on ping
the problem is his heropool
Pretty much the second a super good hitscan comes along he is kinda dead. He can play sojourn as well tho
forced 110ping in every series vs saudi
Where is it hosted?
na t2 isnt that much better
anymore
i believe its just whatever neutral servers
or it might be
loser gets server
what
na has the best team out of na and eu contenders teams
na t2 is above any other region
Yeah, like current game of Norway vs Saudi I'd assume it's hosted on europe
yes
unless they changed it
idk man spilo said that eu contenders are better rn
hes just wrong
i wouldnt go that far but its pretty close
I'm just waiting for Saudi to vs teams such as USA, China etc
Spilo is never wrong
hes wrong about that
how many of them
i respect the guy
And it's not hard to beat these shitter owl teams like shock and Vegas
is there any records?
Facts
pro am
also some old scrim codes
like saints beat glads in a scrim
Scrimsbucks...
sec
i might still have the codes
And like Vancouver titans kind mid rn
but wouldn't be able to access bc old patch
i mean
100 percent accurate
That means glads is shit
on esperanca
I agree
They are shit
or were
they lost cjay and vega so not as good anymore
but in the scrim they had them
twisted minds beat owl teams aswell
and the other eu contenders team has been horrible this season
peps are hella underperfoming now
not even top5 eu contenders
and thats the other eu pro am team
yeah ikr im saying that peps isnt close to eu contenders best
Toronto suck
what r u on
Can you not read?
A 5 stack of gm players beat Vegas
yea
Hell 4 gm players and 1 bronze lucid beat them
but vegas is odyssey a year ago
he still is top 5
whos better than him
lip and mn3 r the only ones u can make a case for
but they have a diff hero pool than proper so its hard to compare them
That's what the shock clowns say
Also if Saudi were actually good, they'd be trolling like USA are doing rn
its an unconventional hero pool but its not hyperflex
they're taking it more seriously than us do
zest is not better
Seeker better
kevster is better tracer
Zest is better easily
no hes not
Then that fraud pooper
Zest is just better
he just isnt
let's use mathematics to deduce this debate
Mathematics
in the metric that he carried more dead weight than Proper to equal results last season
That's incorrect use of math
ZEST did not
We are talking alone
he only had MN3 last season
hm
mn3 is a goat
alongside Carpe and Furys washed up corpses
sans didnβt you drop out of school to fuck sheep
korean ameng
Who are you?
FiXa pre Sado redemption arc
bellyass π
wait I got regular
when they had no rights even sniffing those placements
no shoy
anomaly
the speedrunner
regular speedrunner
I actually hold the regular world record
cause roup gave it to me after 4 days the first time
that I got it
You are still a cheap copy of original Mike
cause I had message reqs and he felt bad
why because no slurs
Yea
on new model
thank you for your feedback
You could say anything with him
wait why don't you both say a slur on the count of 3
damn norway got shit on
ofc they did
3
Only if you join in
a slur on the count of 3
they have like no good players
psycho is one of the better eu t2 dps
a slur
thats not saying much
but yeah saudi stomps on talent
n
but based on performance they shouldve putten up a better fight
turkey did better than them ffs
doesnt turkey have good players
i didnt watch that
the only eu team i like is denmark
yea lethal
rest dont even have liquipedia profiles
lol
LETHAL GOAT
i could have played for brazil
norway atleast full t2 level i think
(bottom 5 tracer)
you couldve made free lan
Here I thought that was going to be a competitive match
cuz south america is free qualification
lol
brazil wc scene is a circlejerk of 10 mfs who have queued with each other since 2016
i should have
so probably not
is alemao there
I'm gonna say it
no
my 5 collegiate and od results on liquipedia are more impressive than the brazilian south american contenders results lol

yeah but
south american contenders is such a joke
you donβt understand
anyway
only three things garunteed in life:
- death
- taxes
- mikeyy in a girl's dms
302
LMAOO
Haa there been a pedo for every season of owl
garunteed
no
1 5 and 6
have had pedos
wait who was the pedo last year
3 in total
Wasn't 1 dream
3 innocences
owl prison team when
Season 2? Sinatraa?
prov1de
sinatraa not pedo
^
its dream season 1 prov1de season 5 and aspire season 6
and chipsa every season bc he just looks like that
nahhh what'd chipsa do to deserve that 
he hated on my beautiful wife widow
mouffin and mikeyy were fucking WEIRD but not pedos and their pedo accusations were false and then space was straightup false
i thought mikeyy was
space isn't a pedo but he is a transphobe and tate manosphere weirdo
no way
he didnt strike me as that ind of person
yeah 
Wasn't mikeyy the guy everyone loved on dallas
that was mickie
no that's mickie 
Oh
they play overwatch... OVERWATCH for 12 hours a day every day
theres no feasible world where they're normal
most normal owl player was moth
super
super is normal for gamers
Tfw when you tell me that putting anti social pre adults into positions of huge fame and power goes wrongπ―
who got his cheques then went back to the real world
s9mm is a degen
only cuz i know him irl
fahzix is a normal guy yeah
Tbf most owl players are pretty chill i feel like just a bad apples kinda thing
chill but not normal human beings
is most owl
Define normal
moth
the more like moth a player is the more normal they are
Ima be real
owl has the most bad apples out of every esports i follow thats the thing
Moth just exists
dont follow smash no clue
Libero is the most normal
Idk i only know owl
minecraft has so many pedos
i have watched csgo and rocket league esports aswell
that makes sense
its not technically an esports scene but in the competitive scene theres so many
unfortunately 
atleast compared to them owl has alot more pedos/groomers
But also because their e sports scenes are smaller
csgo??!?!?!
Probably
cs is the biggest esport in the world right alongside league
im surprised valorant doesnt have more considering how cringey and edate-y their community is
i mean valorant has its own issues
league easy top1
I thought it was lol and val
league is biggest yea
how much does dota have
gaming in general is pretty sexist but valorant openly welcomed sinatraa back after he was outed
highest price pools but i dont know anyone that watched dota esports
dota 2 pricepools are like 30mil
Idk anyone that even okays dota
dota 2 has 600k concurrent players on steam
Where do 600k dota viewers hide on this planet
im pretty sure
csgo has a little over 1.1m on steam rn
yeah it changes by time ofc
whats csgo 24h peak?
1.1m
oh it dropped off a bit
its peak in the last month was 1.6m
it howered like 1,3-1,5mil for some time
Another KSA roll
zzz
Teams getting rolled arenβt the most fun to watch
Isnβt USA rolling their games too?
Is NA a shit region as well?
south america is yea
Isnβt Brazil strong?
god no
they're strong compared to other south american teams
but compared to teams with like
real players like usa or canada
they're gonna get rolled
Have they played against USA yet?
they're in different groups
not missing much
two diff groups
So what region is strong? Just Asia
usa is basically j defiant and friends
Idk anyone from defiant other than Sirmajed
Lol I know those guys nvm

Who
Super?
Korea vs China final, China will win
lol
Japan aren't particularly good compared to Korea and China
They're probably 4th or 5th best overall though
Arenβt most owl players from Korea or China?
i rate japan over ksa, france, gb etc.
most owl players r from korea
There's just a massive gulf in quality between Korea and everyone else
You could make 5 title winning teams out of Korean players
58% of all owl players are korean
So top 16 get skins?
exactly
japan are on that top4-9 tier which is pretty close
Those % won't matter when the league folds next year though!
you could make 4 other teams from korea and they'd all be top 5
no
Yeah
but thats on us for sucking
Japan, France, Britain, maybe Canada? Are all like 4-7th place
it's fun in owl
and honestly it's fun to watch people be good at the game
Iβm infernal fan
eh
ksa in there
Usa and China are very clearly 2-3
prob denmark too
watching chiyo dominate is fun 
But I'd argue they're very close in quality
imo denmark>ksa
I just want good games
they are on a similar tier
korea china usa denmark
apples vs oranges
I like oranges
i think on lan denmark wins
Apples are meh
denmark gotta prove themselves again after losing to france ngl
on paper their talents are very close
Are Sweden and Finland particularly good?
I think sirmajed would do better when heβs on lan and not across the world in Canada lol
sweden suck
Or Germany
sweden hasn't won a match
finland one of the better eu teams
Common Sweden L
KSA best Finland
That game was fun
I feel like Britain and France are the two best eu teams?
Yeah but didnβt have the mental capability to win at the end
finland's definitely going to groups
- forced 110ping against pharah (im coping)
along with ksa
Is yznsa playing for ksa
So when we getting skins??
Yes
blizzcon i imagine
So they're fucked the second pharmercy can be delt with
based on the finland ksa series they are very close but its hard to base on 1 bo3 series
Wont that be top 8?
He plays other projectile heroes as well but so far teams have been trying to counter him and theyβve just failed
Who have they actually played though
noone knows
I just want skins for countries
finland is the easily best team theyve played
denmark
KSA rolled through everyone but Finland
Then they haven't come up against any of the best teams yet
finland and ksa have 2-0'd every series excluding their matchup
this ksa's group
shockwave
naga
doge
twisted minds support line
who is on finland
Sheesh
masaa
oh i mean finland
cloudy
They'll get swept by China, US or Korea or get beaten on map 5 by France, Britain or Denmark
finland beats ksa on lan
it can go either way
Wouldn't mind seeing KSA make a run though
but im damn sure rooting for finland
They can play other comps. Yznsa isnβt a one trick
He plays other heroes very high level too
Yeah okay everyone will get tailed by South Korea π°π· lol
There's a diff between playing a team like Iceland and playing full blown owl stacked teams though
Weβll just have to see how they do against better teams
depending on the group ksa's in they make blizzcon i think
Yeah but you saw how easily they rolled Iceland so they must be so much better than Iceland
doesnt say much
Actually you say how easily they rolled everyone
Finland have been blown over by owl stacked teams the past world cups
dawg
ow1
and diff roster
this is iceland's roster 
hafficool hasn't been relevant since 2019 and finnsi has always just been okay
yes ofc but we already knew that
Yes
How good are Japan
i will be surprised if korea drops a single map the entire world cup, and if they do it'll be against china
its like using a lion beating a toddler in an argument for lion vs tiger
we'll see when they play sk
It shows that theyβre so much better but it doesnβt show where they cap
very good but not top3 good
I'd say they cap at denmark based on what I'm seeing here
theres alot of teams on that tier
They're not exactly going to peak much past Finland based on results
hong kong got to 3rd point on kings row against team sk so we'll see how japan does
People also don't go outside in Hong Kong
lets be honest
how serious was sk
i mean they were probably talking about what food they should get afterwards
theyre half assing every series so far
aint no way they're doing any scrims rn too
I want my teams to reach high enough to get their country skins
Egypt will win Alhamdullah

Didnβt know theyβre playing
who are your teams
puerto rico and mexico
i just like them bc i scrimmed them
KSA and USA
anderp my goat
usa's definitely making it to blizzcon
TEAM AUSTRALIA AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI π¦πΊ
puerto rico only other team with a shot
besides us mexico canada
since if pr can beat mexico or even upset ca they will go
and they didnβt have their best lineup in v usa
puerto rico got utterly demolished by usa
clutch ass suzu
by hydron on rein no less π
Hows turkey germany
and the coluge reaper 
germany won 2-0
Fr
Lol
we should get rupal jq next
save that for the guatemala game
super coluge support line
we should get the uv doomfist π
Why do you guys care
Sk sweeps
Easily
It's a fight for 2nd and 3rd
Since they have an actual coach
And not sum bum
Rooting for your country is fun
You never know
there will be fun series before the eventual ks sweep
I hope they feel too much pressure and lose
op team
can sweden still qual or are they out forever
rip
So like if they winβ¦
Lmfao
Eh
What
finland wins 1 and they qual
With who?
He nbombed
It's the country that sounds like the n word
When i asked where he is from
That you can't say
But it got detected by bot and instadeleted
Oh
Idk what youβre talking about
He asked what country I'm from
What country are you from?
Apparently you can't say that one
Yep
all i saw was the outline before it disappeared mb
it looked like nbomb for a millisecond
but yeah ofc you dont care if your country doesnt have a single t500 player its understandable
Me
his country is the uk he is an english citizen
likely
but im not gonna argue about it with a troll
neither of us have ever trolled in this server once
I am not only a citizen of the UK...
I miss old Ed users
Now we got these whomegaluls
π³πͺ
most of old ed either immigrated to ET&M or valorant
i wonder when memeicus will get unmuted

can't wait to tell my kids about the days when i would argue about esports to internet strangers
please anyone but him
I miss the golden generation of ed
Those where the best times
I still remember the great crimzo debate
i remember watching apex season 4 grand finals with people in this chat 
i was there (i wasn't)
so true king
love how sweden look so much better with theomatic as tank
instead wtv tf lullish was cooking
everyone that follows eu contenders already knew that
sweden coaching team trolling hard
i didnt even know theomatic was on the team until today
they deadsas couldve made lan if they just played theomatic π
classic ow nepotism
or maybe it's because they're playing against poland instead of teams with noticable talent
nah they look so much better
not bc they're playing poland
lullsish was hard feeding against turkey that got swept by germany ffs



