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[rugged quest]

ksaa best tank eu

[karmic charm]

push was a role tho

[rugged quest]

quartz yzn level dps

[weary talon]

I remember

Yeah

[wind girder]

All i see is yzn owning so

[rugged quest]

cuz he gets double pocket

their strat is to let yzn dominate

[wind girder]

And the fuckers on Twitter sucking this guy's cock

[rugged quest]

by playing around him

[weary talon]

They got rolled on village when doge had to mirror ben rein

[wind girder]

Oh my god

[weary talon]

And got mtd

[karmic charm]

denmark vs uk was also VERY close

[wind girder]

I actually can't believe a pharah player is getting this far in the pro scene

I'm praying for a single good widowmaker player to wipe the floor with them

[weary talon]

Pharah is secretly broken

[karmic charm]

he will never get owl

[karmic charm]

widow gets shit on by pharmacy

[wind girder]

Not a good widow

[weary talon]

Actually tracer is a good solution to phara mercy

[wind girder]

[weary talon]

Yeah

[karmic charm]

uk only lost to denmark bc of fastro

[weary talon]

Germany not looking good

[rugged quest]

she doesnt on widow maps but yzn wont play pharah on those maps

[karmic charm]

icl not that many maps are widow maps anymore tho so

[rugged quest]

it was pretty clear theyre not qualifying before the tourney

[weary talon]

Do they still exist

[karmic charm]

circuit

[weary talon]

She’s got the same range as ashe now

[karmic charm]

i think france are the biggest frauds

im ngl

[rugged quest]

i felt the same way

[weary talon]

Depends

[rugged quest]

but they kinda impressed me against denmark

[weary talon]

If fdgod is trolling or not

[plucky star]

what’s the meta rn in OWL?

[karmic charm]

if doge didnt int his brains out

denmark win

[karmic charm]

owl isnt back for a few weeks

[weary talon]

Ram hanzo mei or winsron tracer sombra

[karmic charm]

but its looking like rush / dive

[karmic charm]

hanzo/cass

[plucky star]

bet ty

[weary talon]

Brawl without mei😯

[karmic charm]

uk lost this (they have 80m)

[plucky star]

i just like to know what the big guys run

[rugged quest]

yeah i agree but before the tourney i had denmark way above france so they kinda impressed me

[weary talon]

Ana brig tracer sombra winston

Or bap lucio hanzo mei ram

[karmic charm]

ram hanzo/cass mei lucio bap/ana
winston tracer sombra/hanzo lucio/brig ana

[weary talon]

Oh you meant hanzo/cass in that way

[karmic charm]

ya

[plucky star]

ty ❤️

[stray quarry]

looks like aspire allegations are true

he got booted off titans

https://twitter.com/vancouvertitans/status/1673801083398004738?s=46&t=tIk8pwmqDaa2X2LA1rAXhQ

Vancouver Titans (@VancouverTitans)

The Vancouver Titans announced today that Luka “Aspire” Rolovic has been released from the team following recent allegations. This decision is effective immediately and he will not be finishing the season with the Titans. We take these matters very seriously and will have no…

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Twitter · Jun 27, 2023, 9:10 PM

[tepid ibex]

finally

[loud elbow]

so what's the tale behind mobydik

[karmic charm]

OWLEL 496 4/8
🟥🟩🟩🟥
🟥🟩🟩🟥
🟩🟩🟩🟥
🟩🟩🟩🟩✅
owlel.zusor.io

[spare pecan]

what he did was legal just a bit weird imo

[rugged quest]

did you even read the texts? His intentions were very clear constantly calling her "my little girl" and shi

even if theres no lawsuit involved hes a fucking weirdo

also there was a clear groomer dynamic with him lovebombing her at the beginning and then becoming controlling

[loud elbow]

it's bad pr to keep someone who's a known pedo and groomer + I think the only country with age of consent under 16 is Japan

[unique root]

forget pr it’s also just gross to keep someone who did that in ANY space

[loud elbow]

Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't release him as soon as they heard about the allegations

[strong temple]

~6 months ago was still free agent period wasn’t it

[north relic]

Didn’t it get changed to 18

[loud elbow]

was this a recent change?

[north relic]

June 17 first google result

[loud elbow]

I remember japan's age of consent being 13 for like ever

[placid fern]

wtf

what happend with aspire

holy shit

cant go 1 year without a player getting allegations/just beiing a pedo like this?

[hollow briar]

I’m more concerned they knew for 6 months

Like

[placid fern]

im watching a video on it rn

just started

ATP

its only 7 miinutes

[north relic]

atp has bad takes

[placid fern]

i like him

[north relic]

he called proper the best sojourn last year

[loud elbow]

isn't ATP the same channel that makes all of t hose bad esports videos?

[placid fern]

eitherway he gets news out

so idrc

he gets the facts out with news

[north relic]

he does but why not just read the Twitter post

[placid fern]

good takes or not

[placid fern]

i dont use titter

twitter*

the guy he was talking to was how old?

ew

wtf

thats so weird

THEY KNEW??

i hope thats not true

[spare pecan]

Spain aoc is 16 where she’s from

He’s just weird 😭

[spare pecan]

Ye they knew

They only kicked him off the team cause it went public

Which is what most companies do they dnt acc care half the time

[placid fern]

jeez

[rotund mist]

any predictions who will fill aspires role in titans?

[spare pecan]

Malthel trust

Best dps In free agency

[mortal cipher]

mathal on Titans isnt the worst idea

[slim haven]

aspire wasn't on USA lineup for the wc

right

[mortal cipher]

he was now hes suspended

so its either Sugarfree or s9mm as the new starter

unless they bring back Speedily up

[little echo]

actually funny thing about the law

this is much worse than statutory r

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/shanghaidragons/status/1673852932863959042?s=46

Shanghai Dragons (@ShanghaiDragons)

Welcome back bro @Fate_ow 💪💪💪

#ShanghaiDragons

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 12:36 AM

[little echo]

and is not statutory r depending on ages

[loud elbow]

Speedily wouldn't be a bad pickup, they need a good echo

[mortal cipher]

the man is back

[slim haven]

they brought back fate

bruh

[static pond]

Fleta back to dps

[slim haven]

they really are desperate

[little echo]

but he flew the underage girl internationally so if intercourse transpired

[mortal cipher]

hes on reserve

[fast tusk]

finally an actual tank

[little echo]

itd be s trafficking

which is a very uh

not poggers charge for aspire

[mortal cipher]

i mean he was grinding on the Second Best APAC team so

[static pond]

Yup

[mortal cipher]

I mean now Fleta can do Off tank

[static pond]

He’s a team type of player

[mortal cipher]

because his Sig and Ram was actually Good

[static pond]

Fate I mean

Oh I believe fleta can pull off it

[slim haven]

I might be late to this, but what happened with Aspire

[static pond]

Ot

[slim haven]

anyone got an article?

[mortal cipher]

but getting forced to play Winston every map is not a fun experience

[mortal cipher]

groomer

[static pond]

Ya Winston is just takes times

[little echo]

groomed and flew an underaged girl out

[slim haven]

I figured as much but any details

[rotund mist]

he was one of their biggest carries even...

[mortal cipher]

Like if it was like last year where everyone was playing doom it would be a more smoother transition but this was Winston start

[little echo]

if intercourse transpired aspire could go to prison for a lot of years otherwise it’s either he’s legally chilling or potential cp charges if he saved any

that there may have been

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/shanghaidragons/status/1673852546895712256?s=46

Shanghai Dragons (@ShanghaiDragons)

The greater the ability, the greater the responsibility. 🔥Welcome, our new Assistant Coach, Fleta!🔥

#ShanghaiDragons

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 12:35 AM

Oh

[slim haven]

what is owl thinking... not acting for 6 months and only doing it now as the CW is beginning

if you waited 6 months why not wait until the WC is over

[rotund mist]

just google "twitter aspire exposed"

[static pond]

No off tank

[rotund mist]

happens too often sadly

[slim haven]

from a profit standpoint wouldn't it make more sense to wait

not that they shouldn't have done it immediately

either do it immediately or wait until your carry carries you to the win

[little echo]

the major differentiators for aspire will be a) whether any nood pictures existed b) whether he saved such images and c) intercourse

[slim haven]

don't dillydally and then ruin your chances for the world cup

[mortal cipher]

Fleta can probably do off because his off tank play was good and getting forced on both is insanely hard

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/shanghaidragons/status/1673852546895712256?s=46

Shanghai Dragons (@ShanghaiDragons)

The greater the ability, the greater the responsibility. 🔥Welcome, our new Assistant Coach, Fleta!🔥

#ShanghaiDragons

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 12:35 AM

[meager onyx]

HES A AC

they did this guy so dirty

[mortal cipher]

Ok nevermind

i saw it underneath

[stoic bronze]

Yesssss fate is back

[static pond]

One step forward

Two steps back

[slim haven]

if Fleta is assistant coach is he still playing?

[meager onyx]

i doubt it

[slim haven]

bruh

[static pond]

No

[meager onyx]

why did they remove a star dps player

force him to tank

[static pond]

He just be supporting

[meager onyx]

then not let himplay

[static pond]

The dps players

[slim haven]

sadge

[stoic bronze]

Fleta wanted to play tank didnt he

[static pond]

Ya

He stepped up

[slim haven]

SHD really speedrunning bottom table finish

aren't they

[static pond]

Because the issues with dragons

[stoic bronze]

This is canon event for titans

And dragons

[static pond]

Tbh I thought fleta would have made a great ot

[stoic bronze]

They both rise to the top now

[meager onyx]

good for fleta but god i never wanna see him on tank

[stoic bronze]

Only because he was only playing main tank

[mortal cipher]

tbf at the time Shanghai probably was struggling since they are Owned by NetEase so they got the best they could

[stoic bronze]

Besides ram

[static pond]

Yup they were going through financial issues

Think there stocks were down like 30 percent

[slim haven]

the UK have a full owl team?

or no

[mortal cipher]

I mean If You are Willing to Trade Lip then that should be a Sign something was wrong

[slim haven]

they let all of their champions team go

Lip, Izayaki, Leejaegon

[static pond]

I think when company’s stocks drop there usually a panic and the company try’s to stabilize

That probably why it took a while for shd to pick up fate

[mortal cipher]

Yeah they were trying to Save money

[static pond]

Could be wrong tho

They had money tbh

I think they were trying to figure out what to do@

[slim haven]

do you think they're gonna be able to pick up their former roster then

[mortal cipher]

Void Left before any of this since he was supposed to be going to Military

[static pond]

Fr fr

Void never explain

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[static pond]

That

[stoic bronze]

But man is on the dynasty now

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[stoic bronze]

Hope venom and arrow are doing fine with their military stuff

[static pond]

Ngl I was salty about that lmao

[stoic bronze]

Want to see them in league

[mortal cipher]

Void after their 2022 Title that he was going to the Military but probably go convices by Profit to stay one more time

[rotund mist]

backlash gets too hard at some point

[mortal cipher]

venom said he would postpone if he gets signed

[rotund mist]

• if the league steps in before the org does... its gameover big time

[mortal cipher]

so Maybe Vancouver signs Venom

[static pond]

Ya but I thought he couldn’t avoid military service anymore

[rotund mist]

they could get their whole team suspended

[slim haven]

they went and ignored it for 6 months

[mortal cipher]

thats wot i thought i think he was stuck in Seoul but i guess he could postpone it one more time

[slim haven]

this might just be unfortunate timing

[stoic bronze]

Vancouver wont sign venom

[rotund mist]

ye but nothing was out there, now its out -> they need to act

[stoic bronze]

Sugarfree is their star fdps

[rotund mist]

before more dmg is made

[mortal cipher]

right

[rotund mist]

aspire still carried more the last games

but ye they will still rock it without him

[static pond]

Sugerfree I thought he had a lot ot hype

[stoic bronze]

Aspire isnt an fdps

[mortal cipher]

Dont they need a HC now

[stoic bronze]

They need a hs that isnt Korean,American, canadian, or australian

[mortal cipher]

aspire was a Hitscan originally when he was Signed onto Defiant

[stoic bronze]

Vancouver ultimate mixed roster

[static pond]

Oh apparently apac contenders is struggling

[mortal cipher]

get a European

[slim haven]

oh only now evidence has came out?

[static pond]

That how Vegas were able to get those players

[slim haven]

I thought this was released 6 months ago?

[slim haven]

hs?

oh

hitscan

what does fp mean again?

projectile?

[stoic bronze]

Flex dps

[slim haven]

so that means they can play anything?

[static pond]

Mostly

[stoic bronze]

Dps with projectiles

[static pond]

Usually just tracer

And some other characters

[stoic bronze]

Although theres some dps that are played by hs and fdps

[static pond]

That hs don’t cover

[rotund mist]

the victim came out and shared discord dms, so yeah

https://twitter.com/ExposingAspire/status/1673465586427232260

Aspire (@ExposingAspire)

i was in a relationship with @/aspire_ow.
tw grooming https://t.co/hWbBNQuo6T

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Twitter · Jun 26, 2023, 10:57 PM

[stoic bronze]

Apparently aspire was paying her to keep her mouth shut

[rotund mist]

but aspen said she told titans about that 6 months ago and now we learn they didnt do anything

[slim haven]

Titans got hit hard

[rotund mist]

so thats that aswell

[rotund mist]

def. can say goodbye to their chance to win owl

[stoic bronze]

No

It's a canon event

They'll def win

[static pond]

pretty sure they weren’t gonna win anything

[rotund mist]

lmao be positive ig, but the AU is looking strong here

[static pond]

Lol everyone see aspire twitter

[mortal cipher]

uh oh

[slim haven]

they were gonna build their team around Aspire too

[rotund mist]

he deleted tweets?

[static pond]

They keep confusing hawk for aspire

[mortal cipher]

lol

[rotund mist]

not were, they did

[static pond]

Not hawk

Punk I meant

[rotund mist]

so yeah LMAO

[slim haven]

what is it with famous people/influencers/literally any internet personality and like

children

can't they just

stay away

[mortal cipher]

Leave Kids alone my goodness

[slim haven]

this isn't even hormones

[rotund mist]

they have the means, bc fans look up to them and are easily manipulated by them even more bc celebrity culture is so big in recent times... some are seen as literal gods by their fans and they take everything at face value...

[slim haven]

this is downright manipulation

[stoic bronze]

Honestly, what did kids do to you

[static pond]

Fk aspire deleted the pic with punk

[mortal cipher]

oh

[rotund mist]

ok have a great night, imma go sleep

[static pond]

I wanted to read the reply’s

[stoic bronze]

Whqt an aspire moment

What was the controversy every season

[slim haven]

first redshell, then aspire

[stoic bronze]

This season was aspire

Assuming mikeyy was last year

Dreamkazper season 1

[little echo]

nobody found the season 2 controversy

[slim haven]

mikeyy's still playing though

right

[little echo]

or season 4

mikeyy is just weird not an accused felon

[static pond]

If your on shock

[little echo]

at this point

[static pond]

You get a slap on the wrist tbh

[little echo]

the stuff about mikeyy liking minors was fake

but hes weird

like he asks girls for nudes out of the blue and is very freaky in other ways

[stoic bronze]

Negative rizz moment

[little echo]

but isn’t an accused sex offender anymore

[slim haven]

i mean

if you're playing overwatch competitively

there's already something wrong with your head ngl

[stoic bronze]

Damn

[little echo]

kazper and prov1de are the only guys to actually be confirmed pedos to this point

[limpid grail]

i'd agree but first

i'd like a rank check

[mortal cipher]

prov1de never got to plsy a match lol

[slim haven]

Titans knew about this for 6 months and didn't do anything about it

[little echo]

bro comes up with a different controversy every time

[mortal cipher]

yeah i couldve been just rumors at the time

[little echo]

all in all

2-3 people liking minors in owl in 6 years

not horrible

[mortal cipher]

he gets signed then gets booted before the season twice

[little echo]

def beats smash ultimate

[mortal cipher]

Smash's ones were rlly bad but that was just all in one go instead of one every year

[little echo]

I mean

we had 3 in 6 years

with a 3 year gap

one every year has not been a pattern until seasons 5 and 6

as of right now in the developments of aspire’s case

[mortal cipher]

yeah i say thats prtty good that out of all the Smash Pro Life time we had like one bad year out of the year

[little echo]

2019-2021

owl was chilling

[mortal cipher]

Some got false accused and some just lied about an accusation

[little echo]

2018 and 2022-2023

bad

stop

owl no

[mortal cipher]

Sinatraa was 2019 or 2020

[little echo]

we had like 3 false accusations

sinatraa isnt a minors thing

which is current discussion

[mortal cipher]

M2K was the Big one because he had to reveal some things

[mortal cipher]

ooh i gotcha

i thought we were talking about accusations like in general

lol

[little echo]

aspire is, assuming details of the case to this point all ring true without further intervening evidence, by far the worst criminal in owl history

[mortal cipher]

yeah i would say this one is one of the worst if not the worst one because he admitted it as well and some people even asked him full up

[tepid ibex]

btw to people saying what happened isn’t illegal, they traded sexually explicit images which is very illegal

[slim haven]

did they do investigations into the matter

making decisions off of discord screenshots is unreliable

cause the HTML can be manipulated

though there really is no reason to do so

[mortal cipher]

the Legal thing also changes overseas when Sexual things are involved si its still Illegal

[slim haven]

there's still a possibility

[tepid ibex]

assuming that everything that the victim hasn’t lied about anything at all yet, i doubt she is lying about receiving and sending sexually explicit images

english went out of the window

[little echo]

that is by far not the biggest issue for aspire legal

[mortal cipher]

out of all the things she said i doubt everything is a lie

[little echo]

given he paid to fly her out internationally, if he had intercourse with her aspire is potentially looking at a lot of years

[slim haven]

ppl can just have a vendetta

but then again

she doesn't really have a reason to do this

[mortal cipher]

he also paid like 100 for her to shut it

[tepid ibex]

he didn’t

think you misunderstood that

he flew to spain where she lives

it’s still fucked up

[little echo]

ohhhhhh

[mortal cipher]

if she did this to ruin his career that kinda messed but also if it wasnt true thats an outrageous thing to claim if its not true that would have negative impacts

[little echo]

let me do some research on Spanish and US law regarding nude trading then

for her being a minor

[tepid ibex]

i doubt it’s false, seen as though aspen is backing this up

[slim haven]

thing is

[tepid ibex]

i don’t think someone is willing to throw away their career

[slim haven]

the only evidence she has presented are discord screenshots

[tepid ibex]

false

[slim haven]

in this document

no?

[tepid ibex]

she had pictures of them together..

[slim haven]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iJqf-QEvD2nkPyeY_UjVJdJIaAeS6_2lZgt7Ld3-ZeI/edit

this document?

[mortal cipher]

Spain Law of concent i think make if illegal even applying the Sexual Aspects LAw added in

[slim haven]

it's all screenshots

[tepid ibex]

there is a literal section: “pictures of us together”

[slim haven]

oh

all I saw was "media.discordapp.net" shit

mbmb

just saying discord screenshots are fakable

even though there's no reason to fake them

[tepid ibex]

pictures of them together aren’t

[slim haven]

they should still conduct an investigation

[tepid ibex]

they hopefully are

although titans seemed to not care at all

[slim haven]

they very much care now

the age gap isn't... extreme

[spare pecan]

https://twitter.com/shanghaidragons/status/1673852932863959042?s=46&t=f_iQtFnTD6VomWuD4o3XXg

Shanghai Dragons (@ShanghaiDragons)

Welcome back bro @Fate_ow 💪💪💪

#ShanghaiDragons

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Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 12:36 AM

[slim haven]

like, a 24 and a 28 year old

[tepid ibex]

and the fact he sent a minor sexually explicit images and received them

[slim haven]

would be okay

but children

is not ok

[tepid ibex]

to send images it’s 18

please read up on our laws

[little echo]

18 U.S.C. § 2252 applies here

[slim haven]

16 can only consent up to 18

[little echo]

Looking at Spanish law now

To find something

[tepid ibex]

16 is the age of consent, sexually explicit images is 18

[little echo]

for sharing info

[mortal cipher]

the age gap is still creepy

16-20

[spare pecan]

The aoc there is 16 I think

[slim haven]

the gap itself is not really the issue, the issue is the context behind the age gap

[mortal cipher]

thats at least 4/3 year diff

[slim haven]

a 4 year gap between adults, eh, who cares

between children and an adult, that's a big no

[mortal cipher]

yeah it just still is creepy dating a minor

[little echo]

AOC has very little bearing for these types of laws

in the majority of countries

[mortal cipher]

but was it a minor and a adult tho

[little echo]

lmao

The offence of child grooming in Art. 183 ter (1)
As far as the offence of child grooming in Art. 183 ter (1) is concerned, the Spanish legislator established the following elements of crime:

Contact with a minor under the age of 16;

Contact must be made through the internet, by telephone, or by means of any other information and communication technology;

A proposal to meet the minor with the purpose of committing one of the offences of Arts. 183 (sexual abuse of a minor under sixteen) or 189 (child pornography offence);

The proposal must be accompanied by material acts aimed at bringing the minor closer, i.e., acts tending to the physical encounter between the two.13

for spain

this may apply

depending on first contact age

[hollow briar]

So is he fine then

Since AOC is 16

They said they’re a minor

But they’re not

[mortal cipher]

there are laws about leaving country with sexual intents

[hollow briar]

Oh

[slim haven]

did they actually do the deed

[spare pecan]

Says with a minor under 16 I dnt think it applies

[slim haven]

is the question

[spare pecan]

Yea when she was 17

[little echo]

it would depend on first contact

in this case

and the further interpretation of that is very hard to find for spanish law books because that is not as open a resource as US

[spare pecan]

He’s Canadian

I thought

And Canadian aoc is 16

[dawn rune]

hello.. .. esport....

[little echo]

Sex tourism or similar things are unfortunately almost never charged

[slim haven]

is that proven too

[spare pecan]

It’s what she said in the twit longer but no proof

I’m sure she didn’t record bro tht would be a little weird 😭

[tepid ibex]

no, they traded sexually explicit images. she’s under the age of 18..

[spare pecan]

They had sex too

Since he’s nt from America I think he’s fine legally most likely

[tepid ibex]

he’s not since what i said

in spanish law it would be illegal

[spare pecan]

18 isn’t aoc there tho it would be 16

[tepid ibex]

there is a different between the aoc and the age at where sexually explicit content is legal

the age of consent is consenting to sexual acts, sending sexually explicit images would be counted as pornography which since she is a minor is very much illegal

in canada it’s also illegal

the age is 18 yet again

i don’t know about the US however

it’s also set at 18 in the usa

[hollow briar]

It’s 16-18 in the US

[loud elbow]

he's a spain citizen, just because he's in canada/america doesn't mean anything

if he's tried, he'll be forced back to spain

[loud elbow]

depends on the state

[tepid ibex]

in canada and spain it is completely illegal then and US would matter on state then

[loud elbow]

he might, I don't keep track of stuff like that, but he'd still be subject to spain laws

[tepid ibex]

not really a good legal argument that is being tried to be made weirdly

[loud elbow]

I mean, grooming is illegal regardless

so no matter what aspire is screwed

[tepid ibex]

good

[little echo]

Aspire could be subject to Spanish grooming laws but unlikely

Like based on the evidence right now he wouldn't

[loud elbow]

He'd still be screwed

either way

[little echo]

Due to the nature he'd be prosecuted both by US and Spain for the cp so they'd work some extradition out

Article 189

1. A prison sentence of one to five years shall be handed down to:
   a) Whoever recruits or uses minors or persons with disabilities requiring special
   protection for exhibitionistic or pornographic purposes or shows, both public or
   private, or to prepare any kind of pornographic material, whatever the medium, or
   who finances or profits from any of these activities;
   b) Whoever produces, sells, distributes, displays, offers or facilitates the
   production, sale, diffusion or display by any medium of child pornography, or
   material for the preparation for which minors or persons with disabilities requiring
   special protection have been used, or possesses such material for such purposes,
   even though the material is of foreign or unknown origin

for spain

[loud elbow]

why does this matter? It's still illegal

[little echo]

(a)Any person who—
(1)knowingly transports or ships using any means or facility of interstate or foreign commerce or in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce by any means including by computer or mails, any visual depiction, if—
(A)the producing of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and
(B)such visual depiction is of such conduct;

[stoic bronze]

Why is this abt disabled people

Oop

[hollow briar]

Huh

[stoic bronze]

The first one

[tepid ibex]

minors or people with disability, just what’s stated in spanish law

[little echo]

Spanish law groups in child and disability non-consent reasonings under the same section of national legal code

[tepid ibex]

no

[loud elbow]

not necessarily

[little echo]

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2252

for US law

[unique root]

hi hello this convo or debate or whatever about the legality of the situation isn’t appropriate for this channel, move on from it now thanks 👍

[little echo]

Spanish grooming law would not apply to this case and I'm not even gonna bother to check US grooming laws as I highly doubt they'd apply

[little echo]

okok

[spare pecan]

https://twitter.com/shanghaidragons/status/1673852546895712256?s=46&t=f_iQtFnTD6VomWuD4o3XXg

Shanghai Dragons (@ShanghaiDragons)

The greater the ability, the greater the responsibility. 🔥Welcome, our new Assistant Coach, Fleta!🔥

#ShanghaiDragons

Likes

795

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 12:35 AM

No more felt and

Fletank

[loud elbow]

who let the dragons in the kitchen

[marsh dove]

Aspire 😭

[foggy frigate]

do yall think that watching pro gameplay makes you better at the game even if you play in lower ranks?

[rugged quest]

if you understand it, yes

[foggy frigate]

huh ok

[loud elbow]

It'll help you understand teamplay and mechanics you might not be doing, as for implementing them that's still the hardest part

[bronze vapor]

guys why is orisa being played so much in the owwc? i thought she was one of the worst tanks right now

[foggy frigate]

i wish i could get potatoes as loaded as that question

[loud elbow]

I don't understand why you think that question is loaded, and as for the potential answers, Orisa is good against certain dive comps

[rugged quest]

Norways and italys best tank players just happen to be pretty much orisa otp's

in a competition like owwc most teams play around their strenghts, not the meta

[mental sand]

yea

[hasty hound]

grooming isnt only about sex lol

[forest grotto]

The hell

How did grooming topic got here 💀

[forest grotto]

It is the most annoying tank

But a very good tank for diving

Ohh

[rustic roost]

are ppl defending aspire

pls dont tell me tahts whats going on here

[rugged quest]

definition of grooming : Grooming is when someone builds a relationship, trust and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them.

thats quite literally the dynamic that was going on

[rustic roost]

grooming isn't only about sex no but the illegality of what he did is purely sexual

[rugged quest]

she includes him lovebombing her atfirst etc and then turning restrictive and abusive

[hasty hound]

The primary objective is sexual exploitation yea but it's not the sole objective and there r other facets to consider

[rustic roost]

whatever his intentions were, they were definitely pedophillic

[rugged quest]

i dont see anyone saying that

[rustic roost]

if you read thru the screenshots he kept calling her his little girl

and asking to bathe her and shit

its obvious he was attracted to the fact of how young she was

[hasty hound]

yea thats sexually focused

[rustic roost]

also the mikeyy ss is hilarious

bro finds himself in every twitlonger

the lebron james of diddlin kids

[rugged quest]

what even is your point dawg

[unique root]

hi hello this convo or debate or whatever about the legality/validity/etc of the situation isn’t appropriate for this channel, move on from it now thanks 👍

[rustic roost]

yea we shoudl talk about how cool and awesome i am

why dont u start jae

ok good atlk

talk

[hasty hound]

I never said it wasn't mentioned ?

i just said sex isnt the only part of grooming

[rugged quest]

what? grooming doesnt even always include a romantical relationship

doesnt need to have ANYTHING to do with sex

no

you can groom someone to do drug dealing as an example

its just manipulating a child to do/be something

its a general term

and the situation fits it

and thats only child grooming

grooming overall is eve more general

idk why youre dying on this hill the guy is a fucking weirdo and got what he deserved

it is in him being a weirdo in most peoples eyes

but thats a moral question not a legal one

[dawn rune]

this is still relevant

[rugged quest]

im european and i agree on him being a weirdo

[dawn rune]

legality ≠ morality and also its not a topic for discussion

again

thank u

[hasty hound]

Yes is it 😭

its the exact same sentence twice with different wording

[rugged quest]

okay then move on and stop dying on this hill

[hasty hound]

why do u keep chalking this up to not be sexual

it most obviously was

[dawn rune]

why must we continue after now 2 mods have told ppl this isn't the place to debate these things

[loud elbow]

I have south korea winning the world cup

what about ya'll

[dawn rune]

why cant we discuss world cup yes

[hasty hound]

i think everyone does

[dawn rune]

ive started watching

[loud elbow]

US might have a shot

tbh

their roster is p good too

[dawn rune]

big canada fan (not biased)

[hasty hound]

Is there actually a team anyone thinks can beat lip feilder chiyo fearless?

cause lets be real 💀

[loud elbow]

is Hydron on US?

[hasty hound]

he was playing tank last i saw

[loud elbow]

why is he on tank

[hasty hound]

though that mightve been a joke

[loud elbow]

let him gap lip's sombra

[hasty hound]

bad team I think?

[hasty hound]

LOL

America fans funny

😭

[loud elbow]

Hydron's sombra is honestly top 5 sombra in league tbh, sad he's on a mid team though

[hasty hound]

And lip is top 1

‼️

[loud elbow]

hot take but Hydron beats Lip if we're just doing sombra only tbh lmao

[hasty hound]

a sombra 1v1 sounds awful to watch

and play

but i disagree regardless

i think lip wins regardless

Why did i say that twice

redundancy

[loud elbow]

Lmao, I think Hydron has potential to be the better overall hitscan player, we need him on Shock tbh with a better coach

[hasty hound]

if u say so

lip still the goat in my eyes

even tho stalker gapped him in msm

[static pond]

It because lip was on a support role sombra

He was just made to emp

[hasty hound]

And emp he did !

[static pond]

Yupppp

Funny fits was the closes to lip in terms of hs and sombra

Back then

Idk who was third

Now it’s lip then happy idk who third

In terms of hs

[unique root]

kevster is pretty good no? idk if he’d be third tho i’m not good at comparing gameplay ☹️🤞

[crisp carbon]

actual impact wise no one can compare to lip rn i think if reign had anybody but lip on sombra they wouldnt be looking this dominant in the current season

Lip just gaps everyone else so hard

[hasty hound]

His sombra is ok

nowhere near the level of lip or happy

[hasty hound]

Also ^^^

[unique root]

oh i mean yeah like obviously lip is just insane

i think i just took it too literal as like a ranking type thing (??)

idk how to explain it LOL

[hasty hound]

kev is befter on tracer

than sombra methinks

[unique root]

i agree yes

just me misinterpreting it hhh

[hasty hound]

Wholesome 100

[loud elbow]

kev is easily 3rd or 2nd best tracer in league

tbh

I just hope he gets a good team when gladiators disband after this season

I can defintely see him on titans maybe if they get a better roster going

[hollow briar]

Why does no one use junkrat in these esport matches

[stray quarry]

think about what you’ve just said

[hollow briar]

Junkrat

Idk man he could easily demolish a Winston just saying

[wary cave]

Reaper is a better counter for a winston

Sombra is arguably a better counter for a Winston

Mei is a better counter for Winston

[hollow briar]

Mei?

[wary cave]

Mei is a very good counter due to her left click change

[hasty hound]

1. stalk3r
2. Pelican
3. Proper?

is checkmate up there

decay too maybe

[loud elbow]

Kevster performs more consistently than proper atleast when we're talking about this season

Proper's tracer has a higher peak

[hasty hound]

yea thats fair

[loud elbow]

but I wanna look at this season because it's the most recent

[hasty hound]

mhm

[loud elbow]

I think Happy's tracer can replace Pelican's

[hasty hound]

theyre both solid but yea happy probably better at tracer

[karmic charm]

https://twitter.com/JewxlOW/status/1673724776961982470?t=nLPYPF_ygh3ZxXv97X8xcg&s=19

Jewxl (@JewxlOW)

Oh no! If it isn’t the consequence of my actions!

Likes

477

Twitter · Jun 27, 2023, 4:07 PM

"think"

that was in January 💀💀

[weary talon]

• flies all the way over to spain to meet a 16 year old
• half the league’s players know
• knows everyone’s gonna take him for a pedo
• still continuous it

What did he mean by this

[karmic charm]

https://twitter.com/confusionkys/status/1673621125987794944?t=TzGP8AiQ3hCj3Q2QWu1CeA&s=19

confusion (@confusionkys)

oh nah that’s psychotic 😭

Likes

1118

Twitter · Jun 27, 2023, 9:15 AM

he ADMITTED he is a pedo

[desert flume]

Lspire

Pedospire

Sex offenspire

[keen abyss]

i'm trying to remember who vancouver's hitscan player is

can anyone help

[karmic charm]

I think its someone called supa

tbh

[keen abyss]

I’m more known for my echo talents

I just finished making a montage/clip dump with some echo clips if you want to see it :)

[karmic charm]

but ur a mercy main

[keen abyss]

she isn’t very viable in comp dm

had to off role for a minute

[hasty hound]

When is next SK game

are we in top 8 yet

Wc schedule doesn't make any sense to me

[static pond]

So with aspire out of titans do titans even have a third player?

Well dps

[cedar oasis]

Yea

Coach timmothy

He's gold 3

[static pond]

Oh

[uncut drum]

they need to get one

[static pond]

Goat

[uncut drum]

that is why i said it is good it happened now

as if it didnt they were fucked

[static pond]

They got pretty lucky

What the whole drama with mathel and avail

Avalla

[uncut drum]

?

[static pond]

Max on brig

Apparently in shock scrims

[worn falcon]

wonder if shock gonna be stuck in a hotel for the rest of the OWL

[uncut drum]

where the leaks

https://twitter.com/hh_varuna/status/1674080153729728517?s=20

varuna (@hh_varuna)

shock scrims versus afterlife (NA tendies team) max is on brig and there’s an unnamed account on tank and dps

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 3:39 PM

dw

i found them

[static pond]

There reply codes

Proper on Ana apparently and Finn on tracer

I feel like shock should be taking there scrims seriously

[uncut drum]

they are

the realised proper is a fraud on tracer

max cant play tank

and they see finn is a god dps

[static pond]

Thought they had dorms

[static pond]

Na tendies?

Is that a contenders team or what

[uncut drum]

i think so

[weary talon]

Now that’s just false

[placid fern]

THATS REAL??

[earnest leaf]

Classic crusty

Iirc past shock players said they'e scrimmed people on different roles to see what worms

[cedar oasis]

Crusty the bum

Grasping at straws

[earnest leaf]

Bro did this stuff in s3

[cedar oasis]

Hoping no one notices how shit his team is even tho they have the best rookies and last years mvp(hanbin was robbed)

[weary talon]

Tbh

[placid fern]

im in awe this wasnt deleted or atleast

[weary talon]

Shock is coming back stronger

[placid fern]

like

changed

with current events

and vancouver

thats insane

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/danteh/status/1673743720003551232?t=8RvApGF6axJCUwuq7JE3HA&s=19

danteh ⎷ (@danteh)

HOLY GUAQUAMOLY

Likes

1348

Twitter · Jun 27, 2023, 5:22 PM

[rustic roost]

holy moly guaquamoly

[chilly mauve]

guaquamoly

[static pond]

https://youtu.be/pP78n66FLyM

This is actually good content

Imagine if titans snach shockwave from nyxl

They pretty much said Aniyun Ist on par with other flex supports and that there trying to get her to learn more

Idk I feel like if they should let her play some matches to get some owl experience

[uncut drum]

they wont give him

[static pond]

True but you never know maybe they offer nyxl the bag

https://twitter.com/lagladiators/status/1674130561928159233?s=46

Los Angeles Gladiators (@LAGladiators)

Today, we are releasing Danteh.

We are grateful we had a professional like himself represent the Gladiators, even though his time with us was short. We know he will continue to be a massive part of the Overwatch community, and we wish him all the best.

Thank you, @Danteh. 💜

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 7:00 PM

[uncut drum]

what

that came out of left wing

that means that got marve1

[mortal cipher]

Wot

Probably got marve1

[hard forge]

is this real tf

thats so random

what did bro do💀

[static pond]

Feed

[hard forge]

fr

?

i kept seeing mfs swear up and down hes the best dps in owl rn

[static pond]

Yes he feed so kevster can pop off

He’s a tank

[hard forge]

oh waittyt

i mixed up the guys

they look similar

thanks mate

never watched the glads much tbh

[chilly mauve]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

MY DAD

[static pond]

But recently kevster been getting shut down so dantah kinda just dies

[hard forge]

hmm

[static pond]

In owl matches

[hard forge]

what is kevster known for

the characters, i mean

[static pond]

Tracer

Popping off as tracer

Some genji

[rugged quest]

whaaaat

[hard forge]

oo i c i c

[chilly mauve]

Some

??

[hard forge]

but still, i did hear good stuff about danteh as well, if i remember correctly

[hard forge]

rest in peace to your papa

[static pond]

He was mostly on tracer

And was good genji

[chilly mauve]

mostly on tracer yeah but he still pounds on genji

[static pond]

Ya he did tbh

But I meant in play time@

He was mostly on tracer and some genji

[chilly mauve]

https://twitter.com/danteh/status/1674132668399910912?s=46&t=xafMU7djA2tZMbExjj_PoQ

danteh ⎷ (@danteh)

https://t.co/pSTgBsD5m0

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 7:08 PM

[static pond]

Damnnnn

Dantah could have been the next super

[rugged quest]

Who will glads pick up??

they must have a name if they do this

[static pond]

Marvel1

[rugged quest]

oh alright

[mortal cipher]

Is danteh retiring

[rugged quest]

no comment from him yet

pretty sure

[static pond]

Watch him join titans or tornto

Kinda sucks tho

He was a very good dps

[chilly mauve]

Doubt it

[static pond]

I miss his tracer

[chilly mauve]

I think glads was his last straw

[static pond]

Ya prob

He probably just stream

[keen abyss]

some context

[static pond]

Oh

Mccree buff

Making owl players retire

[chilly mauve]

No

Sombra is the issue

[static pond]

I know lol

[keen abyss]

stale meta

sombra moment

doesnt get to play fun picks like doom ball

[static pond]

Just a joke because that mccree buff is annoying

[restive forge]

If he went back to dps it’d be more fun probably

tank in modern ow is not ok

[static pond]

Ya he would tbh

[keen abyss]

i dont agree

[mortal cipher]

Titans hello

lol

[static pond]

Funny thing is he’s also a sombra player

[keen abyss]

having to keep up with freaks like kevster and stalk3r on dps

has got to be very exhausting

esp for someone who's been in since s1

[chilly mauve]

Danteh top 2 sombra in owl s4

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[keen abyss]

i think he's done with owl

[mortal cipher]

Probably or maybe one more time but he has been in the league since day 1

Like Fleta Profit etc

[chilly mauve]

Mhm

S1 shock

S2-5 outlaws

[static pond]

Fleta done with owl

[chilly mauve]

S6 glads

he’s a coach

So technically not done yet

[static pond]

Profit just around for the bag

[mortal cipher]

He’s a coach so not actually

Profit and Fleta at tgis Point don’t rlly have anything left to prove so they were there just for fun or as long as they could at that point

[static pond]

There was rumors he was losing interest in owl when he switch to tank@

[mortal cipher]

He said it on stream he was considering stopping

[static pond]

Tbh fleta probably just wants to do something else

As coach he has more freedom

[mortal cipher]

But apparently he changed his mind since this was said prior to s6

[mortal cipher]

I mean he’s been playing since Apex

[static pond]

To explore other stuff while being a assistant coach

[mortal cipher]

I mean playing 6 seasons as a professional is prtty Good From like 2016-2023 is dang impressive

[mortal cipher]

He can help from the side

[static pond]

Ya maybe he felt he achieved everything he wanted in owl?

[mortal cipher]

I mean we Saw Tobi become a coach and see wot he did

[static pond]

Tobi had a lot praise from players pretty sure he was doing coach while being a player

When he was on support

[mortal cipher]

I mean the only thing he missed was an Apex title he got a World Cup Medal a Role Star a MVP snd a ÖWL Championship is there anything left to get

[static pond]

Yup he wanted to get some stuff in ow2

[mortal cipher]

Could’ve been the same that was also Gater

[mortal cipher]

Yeah at least he got a title in 2022

[static pond]

But maybe he just felt it not that different then ow1

[mortal cipher]

Maybe

[static pond]

Gator was praise from I think hawk and the old atl coach

[mortal cipher]

I mean playing that is hard to do

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[static pond]

But Tbf gator picked up a super team

[mortal cipher]

We’ll see how FletCoach goes Lmbao

Apparently Gator was the only one who bothered to ask if Lip was available

[static pond]

Ye he did

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[static pond]

Lip accepted it before even knowing the team

[mortal cipher]

It hurts but that was an actual smart thing

[static pond]

My guess

Gator threw him the bad

Bag*

https://twitter.com/blinksleaks/status/1674135029121798149?s=46

The Blink (@BlinksLeaks)

According to sources: Sauna is expected to sign with the London Spitfire

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 7:17 PM

[chilly mauve]

Gator asked the management if lip was available

[mortal cipher]

I mean probably Shanghai was in disaster and probably knew he was getting traded at some point

[chilly mauve]

so the team knew

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

I remember seeing that Atlanta reign notification knowing the sad truth was a reality

[mortal cipher]

Hmm

[uncut drum]

they got a better tank

[uncut drum]

yes

yes

please

[mortal cipher]

Are they replacing or getting 4 DPS

[uncut drum]

fuck off lethal

they have to replace lethal

[mortal cipher]

I mean lethal looks good in the World Cup but he’s not playing freaking tracer

[static pond]

Oh they also were about to get junbin

Atl I mean

[uncut drum]

world cup is no where near owl level but some teams

[mortal cipher]

Oh

[static pond]

But shock pulled a trick apparently

[mortal cipher]

Yeah but Turkey is like the second best in their group

[static pond]

To snach junban from gator super team

[mortal cipher]

Junbin is uhh

Lol

[chilly mauve]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/ruuh11/interesting_sombra_stats_2021_owl_season/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

I know it’s an old stat

[rugged quest]

im praying

[chilly mauve]

But it’s really cool looking at this

[rugged quest]

i neeeeeeed finnish playtime in owl

[chilly mauve]

They should do another one for this season

[mortal cipher]

I mean Sauna isn’t doing much on Maybem when you have Merit

[rugged quest]

pls pick up vestola aswell london

🙏

[mortal cipher]

[uncut drum]

and checkmate

[uncut drum]

nah

[mortal cipher]

True

[uncut drum]

i dont he will be back

[spare pecan]

https://twitter.com/lagladiators/status/1674130561928159233?s=46&t=f_iQtFnTD6VomWuD4o3XXg

Los Angeles Gladiators (@LAGladiators)

Today, we are releasing Danteh.

We are grateful we had a professional like himself represent the Gladiators, even though his time with us was short. We know he will continue to be a massive part of the Overwatch community, and we wish him all the best.

Thank you, @Danteh. 💜

Likes

1266

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 7:00 PM

[rugged quest]

ves goated dva trust

[uncut drum]

they got a better tank

[spare pecan]

Who

[rugged quest]

he has played 2 maps

[chilly mauve]

stop saying that

[rugged quest]

i think

[uncut drum]

marve1

[spare pecan]

W

[mortal cipher]

Exactly

[rugged quest]

having a reliable winston is huge for them

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[uncut drum]

london need to remove the 2 new players

like that is 100k free cash then

[mortal cipher]

Marvel was originally going to Shanghai or Seoul but then Glads threw their hat in

[uncut drum]

and more money

[chilly mauve]

glads would have been so much better if Winston wasn’t meta

[mortal cipher]

Tru

[chilly mauve]

If brawl was meta their stonks would have gone thru the ceiling

[mortal cipher]

We’ll see if it’s true in a bit

[uncut drum]

it is going to be meta

[meager onyx]

Ram and JQ very strong rn

[uncut drum]

all the brawl tanks are

[chilly mauve]

I still feel like Winston dive will be meta

On most maps

source: trust me

[rugged quest]

on dive maps always will be

[keen abyss]

idk I heard that dude duos with cheaters

[rugged quest]

dont talk about it

vestola is an innocent man

!!

[stray quarry]

DANTEH NOOOOO

[rustic roost]

im gonnac ry

[sullen berry]

OWLEL 496 1/8
🟩🟩🟩🟩✅
owlel.zusor.io

[chilly mauve]

It’s sad that he never really got to win anything

he got robbed of his first award last season

role star

[tepid ibex]

OWLEL 496 5/8
🟥🟩🟩🟥
🟥🟩🟩🟥
🟩🟩🟩🟥
🟩🟩🟩🟥
🟩🟩🟩🟩✅
owlel.zusor.io

[unique root]

DANTEH

[karmic charm]

fastro is gonna be on ping for team uk matches now

so kai backbone and fastro

[weary talon]

OWLEL 496 3/8
🟥🟥🟩🟥
🟩🟩🟩🟥
🟩🟩🟩🟩✅
owlel.zusor.io
Most free owlel in my life

[full lichen]

It's time for my OWL debut 😎

[north relic]

i got unlucky

i probably could have just skipped the first guess

[unique root]

yeah u got this king fr 💯

[weary talon]

I feel like everyone tried aspire this owlel

[unique root]

my start was the second one then i got stumped

[full lichen]

Totally

[north relic]

last year or

ow s4

[feral zodiac]

Yaki sweep

[north relic]

jake was the answer and i malded

[feral zodiac]

Did smth happen with jake?

[north relic]

he was a coach

not a player

[weary talon]

Lol

[feral zodiac]

Oh

L

[weary talon]

Usually owlel updates rather quickly

Ojee and s9mm arent even an option atm

[north relic]

yoou can still type profit

[weary talon]

It should also let you type retired owl players

[north relic]

i dont want

sharyk to be on there

getting everyowne

add another column

year

or some random shitter like

awesomeguy

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year would be so fucking terrible no thank you

[stoic bronze]

Any news today

Also, marvel to glads might be true

Why cant you type iris in owlel

NO WAY

Akshon esports brought back owl microplays

[weary talon]

I saw

But half of the video’s clips was just showing how vegas got shit on by various teams in the league

Kinda mean

[stoic bronze]

What is Vegas gonna do with odyssey core in a dive meta

[weary talon]

Go 0-8

[stoic bronze]

Exactly

[stoic bronze]

Is today wednesday

Oh nvm

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https://twitter.com/blinksleaks/status/1674135029121798149?s=46&t=PkAWJHH8YIUYVHJwPelg_A

The Blink (@BlinksLeaks)

According to sources: Sauna is expected to sign with the London Spitfire

Twitter · Jun 28, 2023, 7:17 PM

@stoic bronze here is some news for u

[stoic bronze]

Ah

Interesting

[karmic charm]

not a huge fan of the move tbh

theyre just gonna stick him on only tracer again so ig it works

[stoic bronze]

Sauna is just taking up a roster spot on mayhem

[karmic charm]

sauna has a good tracer

but like

maimone is right there

and he fills the holes in spitfires dps

perfectly

tracer genji echo sombra

[stoic bronze]

They might drop lethal then

[karmic charm]

likely

[stoic bronze]

With sauna they wouldn't need lethal

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if they wanted a tracer specialist shouldve just kept shax