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dude even the mods agreed i was right idk what ur saying
so he's better than fearless right
😂😂😂😂
but he dropped from gm2 to masters in his tracer to t500 streams lol
dude im talking about ksa vs vestola not donghak vs fearless
i mean the masters part was obv a joke but he did not just barely drop out of t500 on tank the day i checked his stream as i said he was already out of t500 and then went 2-12 lol
Did he just refuse to answer
so the head to head argument is only relevant when supporting a player from your country
A simple question
according to u i could just say kenzo is better than kephrii because when they went against each otehr kenzo won
🤷♂️
🤣🤣🤣
is donghak better than fearless
I’m dying
u said earlier Kenzo is better than Kephri
This dude is like 12 at best
I watch him regularly but i guess i missed that
bc they won head2head
ok? did i say kephrii is better?
despite fearless' championship and multiple stage titles
being picked up by multiple top rosters and beating multiple top rosters
keep malding
ksaa rolls
no, thats what I just said
vestola goes
isnt your main argument of ksa being better his head to head wins?
This guy has no argument
because donghak has beaten him in head to head with lip chiyo fielder stalk3r supporting him
If he loses the argument he changes his point
wait were you being serious about the kenzo and kephrii shit
ksaa is better because literally vestola could not do anuything against him
i thought you were trolling
kenzo is better
Or refuses to acknowledge that he is losing the argument
wait you were genuinely using
2 content creators with little to no professional history
as an argument
i mean i think kenzo def one of the top ladder aimers but with his playstyle he def not holding top500 consistently he is just a tiktok widow he be playing her like tracer often ngl
Like. I told you.
why do u think head2head is relevant 😭
t's funny
doesnt matter if they r not professional tehy can still be compared cant they?
You’d have a better time convincing a wall to become water
Because this guy has about as many brain cells
As a wall
i would summon mike to pass judgment on this guy
but we cannot risk him going too far
I believe he already did
and getting another mute
Mike was raging at him
thats crazy because id think if i was 30 id be spending time wiht my family and enjoying life
there are very little people that would win a widow 1v1 against kenzo but there is a lot of people that will win a match with both teams playing widow against kenzo
oh my god why is this guy's age so relavent
Top500 unloved
mute me for what? arguing with u? LOL
who cares if somebody is 30
the prerequisite to having a family is having a woman who will tolerate you
at least give me credit 😔
It’s the only thing he has on me
So he spams it over and over
Kephri and ans better rahhh
Typical 12 year old behavior
which u dont have one
OOOOOOO BURNNN
Oh, right
get off discord and go give birth
GET THE FIRE HOSE
You were there too
Got laughed at by the entirety of OWS
vestola does though #vestolaontop
won the 1v10
oh yeah i guess u can date vestola
no thanks i wouldnt date an off tank player
since u like him that much
i am neutral on the vest
doesnt seem like it
@balmy wolf would kill you anyways 
W paragraph
i only date genji one tricks
i would
😭
seek help
the others dont matter
ksaa 🔛 🔝
I only date torb 1 tricks ngl
female rein mains on top tho
We know you would @balmy wolf
yikesify where are u from btw
We know xD
relevant players have OWL success
bro loves dating negative nancy's 😭😭😭😭
saudi
im from you
i main mercy so i can pocket my little meow meows
KSA pretty sure at this point
ah
Does anyone have a picture of bracket
logically KSA
ofc
ofc im from ksa
makes sense
With how hard he rides Ksaa and Yznsa d*ck
sometimes they rage and break their tv but its fine
he actually likes ybbd better
im a cutesy wutsy mercy i can find a replacement for them
there's plenty of genjis out there
i ride yznsa tho
if mean yzsn dick do deserve to be rode he def one of the players of all time
😭😭😭😭
rein mains are ugly
yeah dude its not like u experienced anythign like that in ur age
not even close
havent seen me yet
yikes
if you arent OWL you cant be one of the best
vestola was even below
the sad truth
i was referring if he would
who's vestola
you said "was even below"
is he the guy who beat the 2021 los angeles gladiators
i believe Yikesify wants to ride Vestola more than Object idk tho
winners of the 2021 countdown cup
cant ride vestola if its 0.5
the team who took an honest map off the best OWL team in the world at peak power
Yeah, he's just a god tank
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no way someones duo is rooting for their duo! such a surprise
ohhh okay
rein main + shock fan i think you're hiding your face for a good reason
um wow
miku can i send you an image to upload
yeah, lmk when u send it I have req on
? ppl guessing where im from now?
LOL
yeah dude im from ksa!
i mean idk u dont have any relevant contenders friends, you are low gm & never met a single player in ranked
im not arguing with a twink 🙄
done
?
dude the reason ur top 10 because of ur little duo stop talkin
LOL
ah ok
u wont reach low gm without vestola
ofc i am
you are
Won a 1v10, no biggie
absolutely right
she doesnt even hit top 100 with ksaa duo though
totally not having 100% winrate on my solo account
thanku miku
and being rank 11 on my solo account...
LOL
#vestolaontop
see cant reach top 10 solo smh

yeah keep talkin about the rank 1
yall just dont realize how better ksaa is
ye everyones wrong but you
Here we go again
VESTOLA BETTER BECAUSE I THINK SO RAHHHHHG
good
LOL
my duo goes negative?
bro only think he's better because he's saudi
LMFAOOOOOO
Miku Fan Club 🔛🔝
miku fan club
This amount of dick riding has to be illegal in KSA
hahaha
ur too young to talk about this stuff honey
HONEY?!
vestola is the only european tank player to have not gone negative in owl pre ow2
you're his little meow meow
and like daan or smth but that guy is irrelevant
honey is a pretty gay gesture out of you
😭😭
LMFAOOO
and is known for being the tank to get shut down by my goat
🫡
man, this why Ive been playing battlebit
*your goat's teammates
wtf is battlebit
it's true vestola is the better player of the two
daan is his teammate lol
ksaa just lucky
yeahhh but like
so ur excuse is in every contenders game he ever played against ksaa its ALWAYS been team gap?
daan was carried by his OT and backline
LMFAOO
in 2021
is it that low poly 50v50 fps everyone's talking about
yeah
oh
yeah it looks fun
yes 🗣️
its never Vestola’s fault🗣️🗣️🗣️
casual vestola riders
it;s funny because the biggest rider in chat by far is the ksaa apologist
portugal lost first map 😢
so he is mid to me
That d so for up his a you can see the tip when he opens his mouth, ngl
yk how it feels huh dont u
yeah he's bi
thanks for telling me that
👍
nooo chat is dead now
Mhm
thats his surname
u dont select surnames...
dont be #racist 🤍
my bad
he couldve chosen a username that wasnt his surname though
supafan02 would look good on him
racist
against finnish culture and history
ummm no im not i know where finland is on a map
ofc you research to be more optimally racist
poortugal
damn
so old
@balmy wolf have you considered retirement at such an old age
hm
you have 2 more years of being gm
your reaction time will be an entire second soon
you won't be able to keep up
sweden
what position?
did China not qualify for WC?
auto qualification
I was hoping to see Jinmu and Leave
to r16
oh
okok
I was confused cause I was looking at the "teams" page
and I couldn't see them
they are probably gonna have a full owl rooster aye?
they are
they are fielding hangzhou spark + farway
pretty decent roster except spark got smoked during msm
but i could see them coming 2nd
yeah thats about what i expected basically full spark rooster
?? us geography blizzard employees didnt find finland
the only roster more stacked probably is SK
not even their best roster either lol
you could replace sparkle with proper and finn with shu or viol2t
cuz these are qualifiers and they dont participate
probably
or even skewed
What's a Finland? Says Blizard
Lifeweaver Fielder
LIP Genji
Sp9rk1e hitscan
Chiyo Ana
My lord what a qualifier
viol2t not being on the roster is crazy to me
Yeah, Fielder was trolling on lifeweaver and still won
he probably didnt try out
Dumb stuff works only if they don't lose themselves in the off role picks
Their parent company netease no longer have the licensing rights to sell Overwatch 2 so they logically made cuts to their former championship roster.
i understand not taking proper he is not at his peak anymore but not viol2t is crazy they should have paied him or taken his familty hostage to show up for tryouts
My friends also heartbroken seeing fleta on tank
only reason they won 2021 was bc they figured out the playoff meta 6 months before everyone else
and lip
that's heartbreaking
actually heartbreaking
they should’ve given binzzz his shot
proper is 19 might aswel join a retirement home
Where is zebag now
void
i dont think its age but he def doesnt look like the proper that can solo win owl anymore
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all the familiar names are gone
nah
jmac was worse
i'll die on this hill
bro shock don’t even try to play the video game correctly
jmac is one of my favorites his videos always get me in a better mood
on a macro level
they just let Fate and WhoRU go?
im not gonna deny that shock are shit rn
fate ass
he was pretty good against Atlanta reign when they did the wrecking ball comp
2 championships and a runnerup?
forced out the hog
google jmac hub for best jmac highlights
any decent coach doesn’t let a team with that roster look that lost on a macro level lol
and turned him into one of the best hitscans in the entire game
bro thinks Jinmu will be playing
like shock look like a mid t3 team with individual talent
literally
is his form just shit now
have you seen vegas? lol
I really wanted to see the genji come out
leave is just objectively better
sorry worst coach out of real teams
😭
he can play pharah
they had Elsa on bastion in ow1
farway pharah gonna go off in wc
I don't even know who Elsa is
also super retired
a logn time ago
who's tank for USA
guxue widow better
coluge
You spelt head coach moon wrong, works with the best players, then knows nothing about scouting when it comes time for rebuild
he can aim the widow headshot
true
sp9 arguably better than profit in this scenario
it's a 1:1 translation
profit's shit who cares
true
it’s literally just 2022 Dallas with lip
even if proper could trial i could see sparkle still making the team
so they can play sombra and have the best hs
bc its the dallas core
the team probably has a higher ceiling with proper
Seoul Dynasty cares if they have to announce him into retirement because his team gets fucked by Jimmy and choisehwan
but as it is rn sp9 is probably the better pick
who's support roster for China
replace sparkle with stalker imo
Farway1987 and mmonk
farway mmonk lengsa
no superich?
mmonk has had terrible performance
bro aint even playing man they're signing 10 day contracts to replace him
is he not korean
team sk never scrims so its a better idea to run sp9
What's about superich
superich is chinese
wait no he is Chinese
ye
is superich even in owl rn
What was good about his brig or lucio other than being chinese?
irony was the Korean spark support last year
2021 cnc it was close
...he's on spark who won 4th place ig
is it xerneas > lengsa > nisha > superich for Chinese ms
he’s the reason they were 4th and not 2nd
ouch
shy was the reason they were 4th not out of playoffs 😭
wait
above architect
they shoulda invited Flats
unless they running rein or some shit
China outside of Spark's current roster have struggled to show up internationally. OWL is all they got and there's not enough space for them to compete due to issues with their visa system as Chinese players overseas
lige doesn’t count since I am only counting players who played more than 1 match
if you know what I mean
/j yeah ??
wholesome energy carry the team
yea ofc flats best main tank (hasnt even played in t2)
flats is one of the least wholesome content creators
4th doesn't mean as much for a chinese roster aiming for 1st
bro spends literally all his time dooming the game
flats is a negative nancy about anything in this game
He does that because that's all his chat complains about
he’s genuinely one of the worst community figures for the game
why did we make flats famous
he inspires so much doomage
Chat if he sees it enough is all he can believe, it's whatever disappointment and toxicity that comes his way
and spreads so much misinformation that poisons the perception of the game
i like flats when he was duoing with emongg in ranked
2020 and emongg content basically
2020 emongg carried content before stefay and super took over
That's the only reason apart from streamer grind I even care about streamers
They put in the hours, hit top500 and aren't a bitch in comms
r/ow members will genuinely believe flats is a top rein
yeah now flats is just bitching about the game 24/7
well he used to be
wasn't he t500 americas
or is my memory bad
t500 doesnt mean shit when compared to the best rein in goats
mostly from duoing with emongg
who was Rein for dragons during goat meta again?
yeah flats gets absolutely dogged on by bumper in the mirror
I think he's just burnt out making quality content when negative criticism just feeds into his viewership and always guarantees clicks without as much effort
did Void go rein?
who cares its shanghai
they were relevant stage 3
when it wasnt goats
true
valid
was gamsu rein for shanghai or was he not traded yet
I think gamsu was on shanghai all 2019
wasn’t stage 3 still goats for most teams
Gamsu and later envy duo was pretty solid in 2019
Chengdu somehow beat the spark ;-;
well thats when shanghai pulled out their pharah comp
with their triple dps comp
best owl set
bc chengdu are the best
holy shit daan's actually playing
its fine bc shock still won playoffs 🙂
looks like rein goats had a 50% usage rate in stage 3
yeah in 2021
@cedar oasis its Ian's fave Eternal player daan
oh my god doomfist had a 2% usage rate in stage 3
youngjin 🐐
damn Ram's ass is broken
I can't find his discord tag so I default to you now
at this level of play how are ppl still dying to dragon
"ignore" Luigi namecheck
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Ignore in Ignore Luigi clears
that's 4 hours long
I clear your shitty hobbit country
Who yall got uk denmark
Oh they qualified, but they aren't participating in the regular matches like everyone else
ah i see
guxue beating the monkey otp allegations once again
does he know
rein mirror yess
he should have good maintank
but he was absolutely lost on village rein mirror
they played sym mei but didnt go to poin
jkaru lol
What match was that
Doge was traditionally a main tank
FINALLY A MAP 3
denmark shouldve picked colsseo
what are they thinking
youre a rush team and your opponent is miles worse on rush and you know it. hmm, lets go new queens street instead of colosseo
better push for rush by far
and britain cant utilize monkey well which is their bread and butter
bro how is denmark choking this they're stacked
its a common sense pick
made it hard for themselves but atleast they won
the uk tank was popping off
I think eqo will carry Colombia to first place
idk who that is but they're good
contenders player
never seen em before
hes in na contenders
what team
oh rlly
yeah
i dont follow na contenders i dont know
who
vega
ghost91 better 🥱
the best dps is also na too
Isnt owl min age sventeen
wow thats like a byproduct of being good at the game
its not
depends on where you are in life
i could but not worth it
average $60k a year for 70+ hour work weeks?
the only real strength owl has over a 9-5 is the fact that you're pursuing a passion
@rugged quest ?
path to pro isn't bad
now that collegiate is popular
you can get your degree while playing in contenders for free if ur good
Idk being a T2 player for two seasons a row trynna make it to T1 must be so ass
i mean there are some t2 players that could be owl but they just would rather farm collegiate
yes
who
So you get treated like an actual college athlete ?
he said he might make another owl push tho
yea
Now that i think about it
owl: work 12+ hours each day to earn $60-70k for like a year
collegiate/contenders: farm a scholarship to complete your degree and work a job that pays just as well and sets up you up for life
collegiate much higher skill level
than od?
the difference between top collegiate and t2 is a blurred line
well it depends on which team ur on
if ur on a top 20 or 30 team yes
what kind of viewership does collegiate ow get
almost as much as owl msm 😭😭😭
my normal matches get 500-1k
but like
tournament matches get a ton
idr how much commissioners cup got but it's prob in the 10k range
since that was a huge tourney
so like contenders
the top teams for collegiate have always been maryville and Illinois state no?
no
northwood illinois state fisher boise state
and maryville
and harrisburg but they just went off a cliff
lost their best player and coach
and disbanded their program
never heard of fisher or boise
fisher used to be bay state
boise doesn't have a contenders team but all their players r contenders
fisher was the first school to start giving out scholarships
and illinois state and maryville have always been good
so they were good a while ago and not so much now
yes
and northwood
those r the big three
i've played against all except isu
that's their contenders team
and lep nos landon
yea
and rn they have vega
yup
pretty good
they were the best team last year
but idk they lost their backline
we'll see
my team gonna be on the rise 😁
if we get the roster changes that i've been hinted at
what's ur team
yes
i heard they give a lot of scholarships
yeah
and one of the better academics in the esports side
only schools academically better than us in esports are uci and northeastern
i don't think they lost anyone this year
i know northeastern did
lost their best player
they didnt
we had an insane match against northeastern
in the esc semifinals
i wish the vods were still up
it was casted by richrad and kenobi too
rip
i have some clips but the whole vod was crazy
idk if i manage to somehow get a grant or a scholarship for an american uni i might try collegiate
made a comeback from being down 2 maps to win 4-3
shit is so expsensive i might as well just go to australia 💀
yea without scholarships it's expensive
but usually schools r generous w scholarships
esp ones that are good at esports cuz they're not known for academics
oh damn uk lost?
??
the UK is good too lmao
yeah at the same time i wanna get into uci 💀
i probably will, but its just so goddamn expensive
Eh, he is overrated but he is cracked tho
He hits shots when it's necessary
Bro what
Hes the best player on team UK and is 100% better then Shockwave naga
How is Kai being "overrated" got anything to do with it being bad UK played close to Denmark
did he say it did?
i wonder if these world cup skins sell much better in Netherlands than in other countries 😛
is anyone else watching the OW world cup right now? Watching alone is boring
yush
been watching for ages
i watched flats go over the japan v philippines match and it was a hard watch
I mean he was asked why it was bad UK played close to DK
Wanna watch in a vc?
and he followed up with "Kai is overrated"
nah its late rn
BRAZIL NUMERO UNOOOO
best player on uk is not a high bar
and him being better than shockwave is apple to oranges bc they have diff hero pools
i didnt say it did
i was just speaking in general
from what i saw which was just nqs uks tank played v well
i wouldn't be surprised if glads let him go
he just doesnt fill a big enough gap in their dps line
Yeah, he carried Britain yesterday but yeah OWL can be tough from time to time
So it's a possibility
Kai?
3 weeks ago people were calling him the goat in here because he was popping off on hanzo
shockwave is a better hanzo
brazil vs chile looks like toilet bowl
this is so painful to watch
americas region weak
are all of them even t500?
south america is so shit at ow
this is genuinely like
na masters
i should join south america contenders
just for the clout
south america contenders so shit theyre not even listed in liquipedia
ive scrimmed both of htem
cuz some of them will make it no matter what
idk what the rest of them scrim
ladder
lol
ludwig once tried to ego me in a qp match bc south american contenders
got clowned on so quickly
who?
the brazil dps
lol
when is us-ca?
yeah i get it
alr
or just after this one
whats ranks of ppl on brasil team?
t500
all t500?
south america has own region on leaderboards?
not on lb
i swear its just americas
god the way you talk is unbearable
dont listen to him he is just off his meds
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USA USA USA
LETS GOOOOO
False is throwing right now for Canada
I said it last year that False sucked and everyone cooed because he was on Vancouver, now he's on an actually decent team and he's throwing, I'm so happy my point has finally been proven
bro
mod abuse
i cant type that
with how shit north america countries are he will play fs
no offence to guatemala
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POO TEAM
IS THIS REAL
they better get avast off the account
YES
lenny time today baby
team malaysia
Has meixco played yet
Did they win
yeah
Thanks
once top 16 or top 8 games start, they're gonna use the 5 games?
It is unit of time
😭
someone gonna give me a recap of the entire world cup
right
too much overwatch for me to actually watch
okay so
a lot of teams are doo doo dog shit
all the teams you would expect to win game are winning
except sweden
^^^
fraudster
and Canada vs US isnt as close as u would think it is
USA, SK, Denmark, Saudi
those teams are actually playing real overwatch
other teams that i think are cool and interesting but not necessarily qualing
I saw korea playing weaver
yeah they were toying with their opponent
Canada, Puerto Rico, Brazil, Japan, India, New Zealand, UK, Spain, Finland
oh and Norway
eitherway SK is already qualified for Finals
SK just
cannot lose
if they lose they beef
bc
4 of the players on that team were in msm finals
its showing us how much better Reign can get if they got Fearless lol
idk
i think
fearless is obv a upgrade on the winston
but i think the donghak ball is generational
i have studied his ways
he is the goat
australia
no custa no win
you made punks dad sad
he would get it
Naahmie gaps
different role
sadly that hero will always be garbage
as gold m*rcy mains and hitscan players will complain endlessly otherwise
this is so oddly specific and it counts me in it LMAOOOOO
canada is getting an auto qualification aswell
they have no talent in their group beside usa
japan aswell
east asia and north america are so top heavy all of the servicable teams auto qualify
south america and south asia dont have anyone
OWLEL 492 3/8
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Good
I don’t want to see sombra tracer for a entire season of owl
remove sombra buff ball
America #1
god aspire sugarfree is such an upgrade over whatever usa wouldve cooked with speedily
when is super playing
zzz guys where can i appoint a scrim
if you go to "Channels and Roles" at the top of the server and scroll down to where it says "Building a roster..." and choose the appropriate region you'll get access to the lfs channels for that region 🙂
Onigod is back
this should be a good 1st match: Thailand v Australia
nah no i can’t find that building a roster
have you watched South Korea vs Chinese Taipei
There’s only NA and EU option 😦
echo meta coming up u wouldn’t get it
sugarfree better than speedily anyways it wouldnt matter
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preds for apac today:
aus 2-0 tha (no pati no win)
mys 0-2 ind
sgp 1-2 nz
hkg 2-0 phi
twn 0-2 jp
no korea today unfortunately
Nono Thai is very strong
aus is just better unfortunately
entire ground zero core + cuffa punk tankline
only team gz has lost to was honeypot in contenders