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[stoic bronze]

Oh ye, void had military service

[sullen berry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751119808124158103/873893411604819979/image0.gif

The "military service"

[cobalt talon]

I need context for this clip

[north relic]

void hates fearless

[sullen berry]

It's fearless streaming on Twitch, void is using primal rage

[cobalt talon]

Damn using his own weapon against him

[hasty hound]

when is midseason madness i forgot

[uncut drum]

next week

16th

[hasty hound]

Yippee

[limpid grail]

this format actually is kind of

awkward as all heck

[north relic]

like the unranked to gm guy?

[limpid grail]

people still do unranked to gm huh

[stoic bronze]

God damn

Chorong - ho = crong

Does that mean, without hoes, chorong is just crong in disguise

[chilly mauve]

DID SOMEONE SAY DANTEH

i think its also quite the opposite

im pretty sure he wanted

1. a nice place to live

2. a good team

which not alot of teams met the requirement

say that again

i dare u

tbh i dont even think the league will be alive by next year

[stoic bronze]

Hey, I like the same things you do

Houston and danteh

I'm just scared that Houston might lose our goated roster

[chilly mauve]

i trust junk

[stoic bronze]

I thought shadow was gm

[loud elbow]

we'll be lucky to survive midseason madness

[chilly mauve]

yeah but junk has a say in it too

[stoic bronze]

I just need a reign choke and outlaws no trolling for playoffs

[hasty hound]

every game enters its flop era as soon as i get into like damn

[stoic bronze]

Overwatch started flopping during goats

[limpid grail]

surely rebooting the game and adding new content that people have expressed interest in will excite people

😃

now they just need to reboot the game and add new content that people have expressed interest in

[loud elbow]

imagine promising that expressed interest and then killing it like 2 years later

there's a reason I quit OW lol

[sullen berry]

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[sullen berry]

It flopped after they added brig, then they doubled down when they implemented map/hero pools in 2020

[plush grail]

this was legit

the exact opposite of peak owl

hero pools were crazy

blizzard was so shit at balancing they just had to disable heroes

[sullen berry]

The only good things that came out of it during homestands were OWL torb and actual soldier 76 playtime

[plush grail]

i wonder of a different team would have won that year

if they didnt have to scrim random as fuck comps every week

and could focus on their best comps

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[earnest leaf]

in s3 it was gonna be one of shock/philly/shd regardless of meta

a dive meta would be most up in the air between the 3, a rush meta would fall between fusion and shock, and poke shock would win

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[cedar oasis]

Fuck ratlanta

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fuck me

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;-;

[sullen berry]

We pin these in the charge discord

[uncut drum]

there is too many usa supports

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Getting rusty

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[cedar oasis]

It's kinda sad that nyxl has never done better then s1

While every other team did better

Except maybe Boston

[chilly mauve]

London?

[stoic bronze]

Spitfire so cringe

[uncut drum]

anamo is doing his military service

[restive forge]

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cooked me icl

[lethal turtle]

have they still not fix seeding yet

[heavy scroll]

when can we put in preds for madness?

wait lmao its open now

[teal jackal]

Anyone else’s pickem not working?

Nvm it’s working now

[hasty hound]

Is Finn any good

[earnest leaf]

was rolestar quality last season but struggling this year

I think he'll bounce back once shock figure their shit out

[plush grail]

THIS MF THINKS SHOCK WILL FIGURE IT OUT

CLOWN

[earnest leaf]

shock got a better chance at winning the season than vegas's chances on winning a match

[weary talon]

Yes of course

He and Viol2t were on of the best backlines in the league

[hasty hound]

he seems to be flopping on shock rn

then again theyre all flopping

[weary talon]

They’ve been getting better tbh

They’ve found what works for them

And next patch will hopefully bring something new

[hasty hound]

W

[weary talon]

(Sombra emp instakills are boring after 2 weeks)

[fathom igloo]

SFS are washed

They need someone else besides proper to carry them

[hot onyx]

congratulations on your phub award i'm so proud of you

[fathom igloo]

Also tor looks so bad

[keen abyss]

I thought he’d be winning a different category tbh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/991313137854840865/1009640473234784296/2022-08-18_2.png

[plush grail]

@keen abyss 217.199.229.137
@hot onyx 24.200.209.121

[hot onyx]

my ip starts with 1 not 2 chump

[plush grail]

prove it

[hot onyx]

i have no reason to lie

[plush grail]

at least

i dont lie about having a significant other

[hot onyx]

that's the biggest lie and you know it

[plush grail]

i legit cant prove it

without doxxing myself

[north relic]

WAIT

[hot onyx]

i am sure i could get mine to send a pic of proof

sad that you can't do the same

[plush grail]

legit dont bother

i dont care

[hot onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/roman-reigns-mad-seething-fuming-angry-gif-22863520

"i don't care"

wait this is the first time you've been depicted as muscular

🥳

[plush grail]

the housing crisis in the netherlands is pretty bad right now, but luckily me and my gf will be able to live rent free in your head

[hot onyx]

your gf already lives rent free in your head, you should take your meds to set her free

[plush grail]

[weary talon]

That’s why living on these floating houses in rotterdam and ams is just superior

[plush grail]

Post the coords

[hot onyx]

coordinates? how about you coordinate your dives in ranked you fucking tadpole

[fathom igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[loud elbow]

my pickems woo

elim bracket as well

[full lichen]

Mayhem are better than Seoul and Hangzhou

[loud elbow]

someone needs to step up his game if they want any chance

[full lichen]

💀

The fuck????

If anything, Mer1t has to step up

Someone and Checkmate have been carrying

Chorong has been doing good, and Mer1t has been mid this season

And Rupal has also been better than expected

[loud elbow]

yeah but they're going up against Leave

[full lichen]

Leave has looked kinda washed this year

[loud elbow]

people originally said the same thing about boston and look where they are now

[full lichen]

4th best team in NA

[loud elbow]

the only team in the league that took Reign to a map 5

[full lichen]

????

[full lichen]

Which game was this

Also, I don't count the preseason thing

[loud elbow]

did you not watch the boston vs reign match this split?

[full lichen]

I only count season games

[full lichen]

What?

Tf is a split?

[loud elbow]

I just call it splits since it's easier

[full lichen]

Idk what a split is

[fathom igloo]

it'll either be atl or hou winning the MM

[full lichen]

Agreed

[loud elbow]

spring split summer split etc

[full lichen]

You mean tournament?

[loud elbow]

I predict outlaws winning I'm going spicy

[fathom igloo]

unless someother team just gets lucky

I've barleyed watched any apac

[loud elbow]

Infernal have been looking really good

So they might have a chance

[vale cobalt]

ima believeeeeerr

shu's ana for the win

[hot onyx]

they are inevitably going to boom

with PRE and Sup7eme behind the reigns

[loud elbow]

oh yeah I forgot the finals

[vale cobalt]

finals are 4 games

[hot onyx]

"Match is first to 4"

[vale cobalt]

pick wisely.

[hot onyx]

the amount of disrespect being put onto Spark and Infernal is wild

[vale cobalt]

they're not good?

[hot onyx]

like they could easily be in the top 3

[hot onyx]

you're not good

[vale cobalt]

i've watched both eastern and western matches

west teams are

much better

[loud elbow]

fixed

[vale cobalt]

mad cuz bad?

[worn falcon]

Locked, 0 regrets

[hot onyx]

that is an na andrea take

[worn falcon]

in FiXa i trust

[vale cobalt]

BRUUUUH

[hot onyx]

no Aimgod no lose

[loud elbow]

certaintly a take of all time

[vale cobalt]

houston wins

shu's ana is insane

[loud elbow]

we're definitely getting a full series lol

[vale cobalt]

fearless best monke for the win

[hot onyx]

Outlaws took the wrong flex support from Glads

SkewedSZN

[vale cobalt]

he never plays so who cares

[loud elbow]

when people originally said Skewed relied on Shu

[hot onyx]

???

[loud elbow]

a few people came in here trying to say that lol

[hot onyx]

not u

Skewed has played all season

[loud elbow]

oh yeah it'd be dumb to bench skewed

[vale cobalt]

skewed overrated

[loud elbow]

his Brig

[hot onyx]

Poko ana is fire though

[vale cobalt]

never played well

[loud elbow]

is so clean

[hot onyx]

potm check

[loud elbow]

in a meta where brig is one of the better supports

skewed is thriving

[vale cobalt]

naaah

violet's brig > all

[hot onyx]

Skewed doesn't even need to play brig his flex support is so damn good

[loud elbow]

we just need skewed on kiriko

[vale cobalt]

shu's ana > all expect twilight

[vale cobalt]

his best hero is zen i believe

[loud elbow]

shu's bap though

[hot onyx]

Twilight will sadly boom under PRE and Sup7eme

[loud elbow]

not even viol2t can compete with shu's bap

[worn falcon]

the amount of disrepect to twilight tho

[hot onyx]

Mag escaped their clutches and bacame a top 5 main tank immediately

not a coincidence

[vale cobalt]

violet & shu best sup duo remember atlanta reign match guys

shu dominated as moira

HAAHAHAHA

it was so epic

never seen that kind of dive before

shu couldnt play the game

so sad

[hot onyx]

that is true but what happens when Fearless doesn't get to play winton

against a big team

[stoic bronze]

Gargle

I want to see fearless play rein again

[hot onyx]

me too

[vale cobalt]

reign is looking as the favorites to win midseason madness buttttt

houston will win.

[hot onyx]

i wanna see him get gapped by Mag

like in 2021

[stoic bronze]

Rein diff

[hot onyx]

except with a slightly more even support distribution and coaching staff than Closer Bebe and Sup7eme over Fielder and Rush

[stoic bronze]

Mag got did so dirty on washington

[hot onyx]

he did

[stoic bronze]

Vigilante gap fs when

[hot onyx]

he'll bust loose soon

having a support line so good that an (arguably) top 5 fs has to stay on your bench is wild

[stoic bronze]

Atlanta roster goes crazy

[vale cobalt]

coluge and finn duoing

lol

[sullen berry]

This sign I found around my office is sending me

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/233904315247362048/878755294015025162/image0.gif

[hasty hound]

only correct bracket i fear

[sullen berry]

Cope

But also I fear a lot of people are sleeping on Infernal

[hasty hound]

if im being honest i think infernal can beat boston and go toe to toe with outlaws

but boston solos fr

actually idk if infernal can beat boston

[loud elbow]

Infernal are probably going to make it the farthest tbh, Spark has a tough schedule outside of Mayhem

[stoic bronze]

Boston are not beating houston

[loud elbow]

Fearless tank diffs Uprising tbh

[hasty hound]

3-0 easy

twilight dif

😍

twilight actually no.1 ana

b tw

[stoic bronze]

Oh, the name explains it

Tbh, apac shouldve also had 4 teams

Because with tendies, apac has 12 teams and west has 13

[hasty hound]

YEA 💀

[jagged cargo]

@hasty hound you wanna bet 100 bucks they do not 3-0 houston?

[hasty hound]

no im ok

faith is all i have

and its all i need

[jagged cargo]

and faith is all you shall lose

[frank dragon]

Striker punches Decay and Boston implodes before MM begins

[jagged cargo]

[stoic bronze]

You dont have faith anymore

It went to vancouver

[keen abyss]

*had bro got sent to canada

fuck someone else made the joke

searching for a bridge need to test my new backflip

[hasty hound]

why would it go to them they suck

[keen abyss]

TRUEE

[echo tide]

Hi I had a question on what the process would be on joining a high level team I’m a top 500 dps player looking to get into esports any advice would help

[stoic bronze]

Pretty sure theres a way to get into contenders

I think you need to make a team and then theres this tournament for a tendies spot

Thata how odh got into tendies but that's Korean tendies

[stoic bronze]

Beat you to it

[echo tide]

Alright do you know where to find a team

They don’t even have to be crazy good just something to start

[stoic bronze]

Theres a vid by krow talking about his tendies team, honestly I'm not much of an expert but there might be someone else out there

Theres also path to pro

[north relic]

go to #roles-old find this and find the channel

[stoic bronze]

Theres also stuff on the owl website abt path to pro and stuff like that

Hope you succeed and no memps

[north relic]

might be hard to find stuff on console

[stoic bronze]

I would never know, I'm a gold on switch

[willow drum]

even the stupidest player i know

was plat on switch

isnt switch t500 diamond

[stoic bronze]

There is no t500 switch

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[sullen berry]

[ebon aurora]

Has it been confirmed yet what dates the Summer Stage begins? I'm assuming there is at least one week break after MSM but didn't know if that had been officially announced?

[stoic bronze]

Not sure but I believe they would start a week or two after msm

[odd herald]

Hi

[karmic charm]

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[hollow briar]

Wait summer stage and msm are 2 different things?

[uncut drum]

@plush grail if you dont get this one

[uncut drum]

yes

[north relic]

im him ? (owlel)

[hazy marsh]

what does the w mean

[fathom igloo]

https://twitter.com/OWLOpinions/status/1666870794239234050?t=anQBbJYkUGVyvCTI2fhpiQ&s=19

OWLOpinions (@OWLOpinions)

If Heesu signed to Shock instead of robbing Shanghai of 90% of their budget, Shock would be the top 5 team they were meant to be this year.

Twitter · Jun 8, 2023, 6:12 PM

Bruh

[fathom igloo]

Nothing could of saved sf

[stoic bronze]

Heesu instead of heesang

Much better sombra, much better hs

[weary talon]

Shocking , shock fans coping and searching for a scapegoat

[slender star]

Will there be a watch party for Mid season Madness finals?

[fathom igloo]

Who would of guessed bringing up most of a contenders team to OWL was a smart idea

Totally hasn't backfired multiple times

[vital creek]

Nvm

[hollow briar]

99% no

It’s on YT

[slender star]

Aww damn

[balmy wolf]

[karmic charm]

i swear u have the worst luck on this game

[karmic charm]

west

[uncut drum]

i do

[hazy gorge]

The damn bracket seems real hard💀

[earnest leaf]

they might take a few more maps off teams and maybe win an extra match but heesu can't save the team that hard

[sand sinew]

My internet and nothing on YouTube is loading but I was watching a stylised video before it went down but it won't load now, can somebody please put into simple words what's going on with the owl?

[uncut drum]

?

[stoic bronze]

A bunch of orgs paid a lot for owl teams and they were essentially promised that they would make money back by investing into owl teams. Long story short, owl is dying and the orgs aren't getting their money. Part of the reason why Chengdu left

They're basically not profiting and they're mad

[loud elbow]

Tl;dr: owl will be dead by the end of 2023

[stoic bronze]

oWl WoNt Be dEaD yOU f0ol

[loud elbow]

Copium

We’re already losing Glads and whatever teams are leaving by the end of the year

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1667245729511886849?s=20

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

It's all or nothing at #OWL2023 Midseason Madness🥊

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that is a sick poster

[willow drum]

lol

and in return a much worser flex dps

and a much worse tracer

shock can have lip hanbin proper and still not succeed with that backline

[fathom igloo]

Shock were stupid for not re-signing violet or twilight

[tawdry hamlet]

Violet or twilight probably got offered giant bags given they were finally exploring options after all that time

By other teams

[earnest leaf]

viol2t wanted to leave as well

[cloud latch]

how come

[earnest leaf]

idk

[restive forge]

wub is the greatest player alive

[keen abyss]

i think he said smth about having a different perspective from the rookie players

[hot onyx]

the rookies thought telling ranked team mates to end their lives was unwarranted smh

[keen abyss]

tell that to proper 😭

[hot onyx]

Porper is holesome one hundred 100

[earnest leaf]

I would assume every owl player has flamed the fuck out of someone in ranked before

[north relic]

Alarm didn’t

a ray of sunshine in a land of darkness

[keen abyss]

not shu

[cloud latch]

not hanbin

he's a humble god

[keen abyss]

true

hanbin doesn't flame ranked teammates

he only hurls slurs at edison when he is off his game for a match

[cloud latch]

a humble, merciful God such as hanbin would never slur to one of his peasants

he'd merely sit him down and have a 3 hour discussion full of constructive criticism

[stoic bronze]

Hanbin should smack sparkle every time he misses a pulse or doesnt get a deagonblade 5k

[worn falcon]

https://clips.twitch.tv/KathishProtectiveGoatMrDestructoid-WSGcTyk_gqiksq1k

Geeeeeez

@earnest leaf

[earnest leaf]

yea I saw

it got to that by me asking what his s4 salary was lmao

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/seouldynasty/status/1667411287519956993?s=46

Seoul Dynasty 🐯 (@SeoulDynasty)

[Thank you, Prophet]

금일부로 'Prophet' 김현빈 선수와 상호 합의 하에 계약이 종료되었습니다.

그동안의 팀을 위한 노력에 감사드리며,
앞으로의 미래에 좋은 일만 가득하시길 바라겠습니다.

Thank you for your hard work. We wish you the best moving forward.

#TigerNation #SeoulDynasty

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boom

[cloud latch]

bouta roll out in a 4v5 let's gooooo

[earnest leaf]

inb4 prophet to shock

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I kinda popped off

[uncut drum]

WHAT

um

why do they have 3 dps
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[hot onyx]

you're forgetting SeonJun?

[sullen berry]

everyone forgets profit can flex onto tank

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https://twitter.com/leakmafia_OW/status/1666857843209695232?s=20

leak mafia (@leakmafia_OW)

according to @hh_varuna the teams are dragons and dynasty

Twitter · Jun 8, 2023, 5:20 PM

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actually too easy

[stoic bronze]

Wait why is prophet gone

[clear halo]

ghg

[uncut drum]

no clue

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[stoic bronze]

Isnt profit still on his break

[restive forge]

Yeah

[stoic bronze]

4v5

They're fucked

[uncut drum]

no

he is back

[sullen berry]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ImpartialAcceptableReindeerMrDestructoid-tKwL-0usbSAMyy17

[full lichen]

And support

[wispy yacht]

https://twitter.com/TorontoDefiant/status/1667532073220071426?s=20

Toronto Defiant (@TorontoDefiant)

Despite his quiet demeanor, @ojeeow is full of charisma and is truly loved by the community that he has created. Not only did you take Defiant fans on a tour at Ojee-gon Tower, but you gave us fun memorable and engaging moments on stream.

Thank you always, Christian! 🖤❤️

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 2:00 PM

toronto so cooked 💀

[fathom igloo]

who would of thought

[mortal cipher]

It was never Ojee-gon tower

It’s not even midfiant

[wispy yacht]

speedily dropped as well

[hot onyx]

bottom 3 hitscan

good reason to be dropped imo

[wispy yacht]

so rn they have s9mm hydron coluge uv

[hot onyx]

majed

[wispy yacht]

yea

[fading wing]

i mean

ojee fed hard as fuck this season

[fathom igloo]

https://twitter.com/TorontoDefiant/status/1667539616042303489?t=lafmpxObhgTu_O7WAWg-Bg&s=19

Toronto Defiant (@TorontoDefiant)

Amidst the pressure, @speedilyOW stepped up and immediately started working on developing his skills on heroes he's not known for. His dedication and adaptability have been truly inspiring.

Thank you, Nick. Wishing you continued growth and success! 🖤❤️

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Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 2:30 PM

Tor mid season blow up?

[north relic]

we watched a certain owl game yesterday

[hot onyx]

funny how you skip him one his one trick getting hard gapped by MN3

[fathom igloo]

I called it tor is gonna get boomed mid season

[stoic bronze]

Sans will you update it

[loud elbow]

like I said, we won't even survive mid-season madness

[mortal cipher]

Implodfiant

[hot onyx]

after i eat lunch

[fathom igloo]

https://twitter.com/TorontoDefiant/status/1667547177479200769?s=20

Toronto Defiant (@TorontoDefiant)

During our hardest times, @s9mmow was the glue that kept the team focused and together. Despite our rough start to the season, his words inspired the team to keep going.

Your fiery passion, determination, & charisma will never be forgotten.
Thank you for everything, Sam! 🖤❤️

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Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 3:00 PM

[stoic bronze]

What

Are they releasing everyone

And pulling a chengdu

[hot onyx]

doubt it

rumours are saying Spectra and Donghun/Opener

are joining

[stoic bronze]

Fr

They going mixed

[fathom igloo]

I'm happy to see opener get another chance

[stoic bronze]

Donghun is a dps?

[hot onyx]

Donghun is main support

for Dreamers

[sullen berry]

ping me when the wave of announcements ends

so far that's 2/?

should have known this is what he meant on discord

[fathom igloo]

3

[stoic bronze]

Why do they have 4 supports then

2 ms, 2 fs, 1 fdps, 1 hs, 1 tank

[fathom igloo]

https://twitter.com/TorontoDefiant/status/1667554715477868544?s=20

Toronto Defiant (@TorontoDefiant)

Throughout our players' careers, @EricMPerez_ has played a massive role in their growth, shaping them into the superstars they are today. Your wisdom, guidance, and hard work have made a lasting impact.

Thank you so much, Eric! Wishing you all the best on your path ahead 🖤❤️

Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 3:30 PM

https://twitter.com/casores_ow/status/1667557860119658498?s=46&t=SfZtVcv6yAd6Ah6r6e4yqg

Casores (@Casores_OW)

That concludes our farewells. I truly wish all these guys the best, if any team is interested to pick them up and has questions, please reach out.

Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 3:42 PM

@sullen berry

[sullen berry]

aite

[uncut drum]

wait sam

when he was in the team did better

this midseason is going to be very fun to see

https://twitter.com/hh_varuna

https://twitter.com/hh_varuna/status/1667540715503595520?s=20

varuna (@hh_varuna)

Toronto is replacing them with spectra and donghun. i was going to leak them being dropped this morning but they beat me lmao

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Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 2:34 PM

https://twitter.com/hh_varuna/status/1667552002698518533?s=20

varuna (@hh_varuna)

Seonjun, Leesoomin, and Belosrea are expected to be dropped.

Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 3:19 PM

marvel to dynasty?

maybe other o2 blast members as well

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/1667563843378192386?s=20

Boston Uprising (@BostonUprising)

WE WEREN’T THE ONES THAT BOOMED

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Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 4:06 PM

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/BadPachimari/status/1667550197579218945?s=20

Bad Pachimari (@BadPachimari)

Again, I blame for format - all teams could change and develop more if there was more tournaments. At actual midseason you could make changes, this just feels bad,

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Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 3:12 PM

i kinda agree with this

[errant hornet]

honestly bout time Belosrea was dropped lol

[stoic bronze]

This is wild league is dying earlier than expected

[stoic bronze]

Seoul imploding

Second team to leave the league

Bye bye gen g

[mortal cipher]

Are they actually

[hollow briar]

Why are they doing drafts or whateverthefuck between the league

Shouldn’t they have done it before the pro am

[fathom igloo]

Probably not this guy is just being a doomer

[fathom igloo]

Just because players are getting dropped doesn't mean the league is dying

Don't be such a doomer

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/NorthOW1/status/1667556553627668482?s=20

Nohill_OW (@NorthOW1)

😭😭😭
even don't meet boys face to face

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Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 3:37 PM

[stoic bronze]

It is dying

[fathom igloo]

Whatever kid

[uncut drum]

nah

Arnold wont let that happen

there is high profits from the other parts

[fathom igloo]

This kid is being a doomer

[loud elbow]

imagine thinking the league isn't already d ead

let's also bring up the fact that the prize pool for midseason madness is only $900K

that's so little compared to what was being offered during the previous midseason madnesses

[stoic bronze]

So little compared to what the orgs paid for their teams

[stoic bronze]

What is a league without teams

Glads are dropping out next year

Chengdu isnt in anymor3

[karmic charm]

OWLEL 478 4/8
🟥🟩🟩🟥
🟩🟩🟩🟥
🟩🟩🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩✅
owlel.zusor.io

[stoic bronze]

Vegas and valiant are budget

Only teams with enough money for good rosters are outlaws, Infernal, reign, uprising and spark

[karmic charm]

shock

[stoic bronze]

True NRG is always packed with money

[loud elbow]

It's barely enough for 2 players + coaching staff

and taxes as well

[mortal cipher]

makes sense

[fathom igloo]

https://twitter.com/ggBarroi/status/1667577075186933760?t=St_DYjDwN2f-NB_EffdnpA&s=19

Dennis Matz (@ggBarroi)

We put a lot of trust and respect into our players at the start of the season and won't break that now.
Don't expect any trades/drops/pickups from @VancouverTitans

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Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 4:58 PM

[loud elbow]

instead we'll get "so we're actually going to just leave the owl", I can see it happening

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1667608066274230272?s=20

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

Mark your calendars 🗓️

Join @MattMrX and @PizzaPenguin_ on June 13th at 9 AM PT as they discuss all things #OWL2023 Midseason Madness and Calling All Heroes!

Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 7:02 PM

https://twitter.com/VancouverTitans/status/1667601795164835840?s=20

Vancouver Titans (@VancouverTitans)

“competing”

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Twitter · Jun 10, 2023, 6:37 PM

LOL

[loud elbow]

also pretty sure they're only doing this because of the money issue in the league rn

[plush grail]

trying to play good boy but his org still fucked over one of the most talented rosters ever

[cloud latch]

ian would know cause his org did almost the exact same thing

[plush grail]

not true we had to ditch the em boys because of budget

and they stayed in the league

and ended up winning a season

36.124.209.223

[cloud latch]

ermmmm twilight won a season

[plush grail]

??

do u have brain damage

[cloud latch]

am I wrong

[plush grail]

1 out of like 9 players

stayed in the league

[cloud latch]

haksal stayed in the league

[plush grail]

which og runaway player still managed to land a decent team ( not nyxl fuck u haksal )

[plush grail]

no fake

[cloud latch]

you're cringe

[plush grail]

nyxl was not a real team dawg

they had sbb, flower, nenne, libero and were like ''we need haksal''

and then put him on sombra jail

[cloud latch]

didn't they get whoru as well 😭

[plush grail]

wait yeah they had whoru, not flower that season

so they had legit the top 3 genjis in whoru, haksal and libero

[cloud latch]

yeah I hate nyxl for what they did to just about every fdps they touched

[plush grail]

show this roster to a owl fan in 2018

they insta cream

[cloud latch]

surely this team doesn't do poorly

[plush grail]

surely they dont lose to shit teams 3-0

surely one of the 5 top tier dps will carry the team

[weary talon]

The big boss would fix this team

[lethal turtle]

anyone wanna buy chengdu and make our own team?

[hasty hound]

what team is tjis

[cedar oasis]

libero

libero started out as the gaot

and ended as the goat

[molten cave]

I'm gonna be honest, 90% of the blame for the Toronto fiasco is on Casores and the rest of the coaching staff, it was wildly clear from the beginning that neither ojee or Speedily knew how to play the current iterations of their roles and both were more than talented enough to be taught them, but ultimately the coaching staff failed to properly diagnose the issues and teach the fundamental playstyles needed for success

[full lichen]

I'm surprised S9mm got released, he was actually looking really good whenever he was in

[molten cave]

Speedily was trying to play backline tracer in 2023 idk that's a joke

[weary talon]

They also had a dps lineup that worked and never used it

(Sam hydron)

[full lichen]

Yeah

[molten cave]

You can't tell me no one on the coaching staff knew that in a Winston comp the tracer is supposed to wait for bubble to engage, or that the coaches didn't know tracer can't 1v2 supports anymore, every other team adapted to either Duelist tracers or Farm n stick tracers but for some reason Toronto couldn't teach Speedily not to go on hyperint solo midsions

But the players lose the jobs 😶

I have been hyping up casores since he was on Reign n nohill since cc but they genuinely just needed a coach who understands how to actually play the game at a high level I think

[earnest leaf]

coaches can't magically fix a team

We just went through a stage with crusty/rush/moon teams all struggling

[loud elbow]

and Hydron's gonna have to fill in some big shoes

[full lichen]

Hydron has been doing really well this year

[weary talon]

I honestly think defiant should play to their strength

Kindalike shock did

Put Coluge on sigma hydron on widow same on hanzo

[uncut drum]

they cant play their strength

[north relic]

This is why

Gator is the goat

[fading wing]

sam was good?

must’ve been in recent games that i haven’t seen

[weary talon]

He was better than whatever speedily was offering lets put it that way

[fading wing]

ah i love the lesser evil game!

anyway

toronto changes are unsurprising now they have what

all this money freed up?

[weary talon]

Wait are the fees liberated for all teams

Or just Toronto

[fading wing]

as far as i’m able to read into it, just toronto

wait

i’m not sure

wait

accidental doxxing

one sec

i’m running on 5hr of sleep and a wish

[weary talon]

Sounds promising

[dreamy cave]

That roster is kinda dope tbh

[weary talon]

Hopefully this’ll help get owl back on its feet

[loud elbow]

we still gotta get through this year and uh- I don't see it happening lol

[dreamy cave]

I just hope this really does help the players. I just don't want to have to lose players not because of the game but because of the living conditions

[fading wing]

if its reflecting onto 2023 fiscal

itll be fine

[weary talon]

If they’re more generous with their tokens we are

Lol

[fading wing]

this is entirely up to each team

[weary talon]

80% of owl viewership is only there for the tokens

[fading wing]

if there was some sort of standard policy for housing, sure but while its up to individual teams it'll always be questionable

eternal is living in what seems to be a glorified frat house, defiant i believe have a town house just a bit on the cusp of the city but also have a studio

[weary talon]

Yeah

[fading wing]

not to say the word but

a union

which wouldnt be terrible for them, but the league would stick their heels in the sand so fucking hard

[weary talon]

It’s unacceptable that some 17 year olds from across the world have to reside in some hotels

[earnest leaf]

a player union will never happen

[static pond]

Who Vega? Apparently shock wanted him

[weary talon]

This season is confusing as hell

Was there a particular reason for why the knockouts in NA were first to 3 but in apac it was first to 4

Lesser teams?

[stoic bronze]

Tendies player on maryville saints

Ms I believe

[fading wing]

hes played for more teams this season alone than some players have their entire careers

[stoic bronze]

pine, Libero, ameng, gaga, jinmu just to name a few

[static pond]

Idek what going on

Tornto dropped half there roster and shock wanted Vega apparently wanna drop there ms they have now

Is that it?

[stoic bronze]

Seonjun, leesoomin, and belosrea might get released

[static pond]

??????

No way Seoul can go more budget then that

[uncut drum]

no

leaks are they want marvel

ezhan

rn

[static pond]

Oh nvm

[uncut drum]

no clue about support

[stoic bronze]

I'm going to wait for when gen g leaves the league

[static pond]

Good pick ups

[uncut drum]

they wont

[static pond]

Ezhan looks very good in contenders

I haven’t seen a lot of marvel

[uncut drum]

marvel was great

[stoic bronze]

Marvel void tank line is crazy

[uncut drum]

i want them to get like opener

for the backline

and then another flex

[stoic bronze]

Openers going to defiant

[uncut drum]

keep krillan and let him play his flex

[uncut drum]

that is what people think

[stoic bronze]

I want spectra on defiant

Finally make them top 8

[static pond]

I was just about to mention specta

And topdragon

Idk how they haven’t got a owl team

[weary talon]

Toronto dropped ojee speed and s9mm to invest in cloning gear to have two UVs and two hydrons

[stoic bronze]

Wild

1 hydron for sombra and 1 hydron for tracer

[uncut drum]

I just realized that pucket was the one who posted about the nickmercs thing

[static pond]

Tbh kinda wanted tornto to have a full American team lol

[weary talon]

Yes

[static pond]

Good marking imo

[weary talon]

1 UV on the brig and another on ana

[uncut drum]

I meant dynasty

[weary talon]

Weren’t there rumors of reiner if he heals to go to defiant

[static pond]

Oh I replied to the wrong thing lmao mb

[uncut drum]

Keemstar called pucket a goated caster

[karmic charm]

hi

[static pond]

Meant to reply to this

[karmic charm]

is defiant imploding

[static pond]

Yes

[weary talon]

No its the yearly “defiant drops all their players” event

Nothing to worry

[karmic charm]

oh just tradition atp

didn't they pick up im37 for like 1 stage then drop him right after

[stoic bronze]

Same

Toronto tornado

Hydron and Sam could've pulled off double sniper very well

Thank God they got rid of speedily tho, I think s9mm is better at all the fs except tracer than speedily

Bro I had no idea liquipedia had a leak page

According to liquipedia, they have vindaim rumored to seoul

[weary talon]

Toronto should pick up kephrii

[karmic charm]

liquipedia only puts leaks on by what they deem reputable sources so it's probably true

[stoic bronze]

I hope he gets out of shock

Tobi carrys

[dreamy cave]

I think Houston beat Boston. It'll probably be a 3-1

[loud elbow]

Nah it’ll be a competitive series, full 5 maps

[dreamy cave]

I think kalios and smurf would struggle to match fearless and even though Bostons backline is immaculate, so is outlaws with violet and shu. Plus I think happy and pelican will get value easier if fearless is inching out ahead in the tank matchup.

[loud elbow]

Without striker and jidset uprising are pogging out rn

[dreamy cave]

It would be up to decay or striker to make a difference on tracer. But It'll be hard on the supports to help them if fearless is applying pressure

[willow drum]

yeah i mean

its prolly best for both parties

at this point

[paper seal]

Will chungdou hunters compete this year?

[dreamy cave]

Unfortunately not

But I'm sure they'll get a roster together by next year

[paper seal]

Unlucky they gave the league positive vibe

[dreamy cave]

Ikr

Rest in peace ball comps

[paper seal]

Rip pharaoh mercy comp

[earnest leaf]

in a straight tracer sombra monkey mirror boston can go even with houston

winstons are even, boston has the better tracer, sombra is even, and the backlines are pretty even as well

[hushed barn]

Ted Kaczynski was a ball main

[dreamy cave]

Who's the better tracer? Decay or striker?

[earnest leaf]

I would say striker but they are perma starting decay

so decay probably doing something better in scrims and it works in matches

[dreamy cave]

Because happy I think is better than decay but striker is the danger. Yeah

[dreamy cave]

Decay perma starting could cause a snowball effect for Houston if they get flowing and win first map. Plus I think fearless even if not the dive would be a better JQ

[earnest leaf]

I do wonder why striker was signed

because him and decay have identical hero pools give or take a hero or two

and birdring covers Hs well

[dreamy cave]

Maybe for double long range dps with striker birdring??

[restive forge]

they’ve put my tweets up on the contenders stream like 4 times

Totally not relevant but im hilarious

[dreamy cave]

There may not be alot of them in the game now. But who's to say they add one that's significant

[dreamy cave]

Actually pretty cool

[loud elbow]

I think the game will start changing once they bring in the junker queen's

[earnest leaf]

next stage meta will be interesting

heard a few different things but we won't know till a couple weeks out and scrims are fully underway

[paper seal]

Owl is playing on different patches right?

[restive forge]

Yes

They change to the updated patch after mid szn madness

[dreamy cave]

Who you got winning in the Florida, spark matchup at the start and in losers round 2 of bracket.

[earnest leaf]

if only I could post my bracket

but some mod decided to remove my regular role

[dreamy cave]

Dm it to me. I'm curious

[earnest leaf]

I have spark and outlaws winning first round

[stray quarry]

VINDAIM GONE YIPPEE

[dreamy cave]

I'll show u mine too

[hot onyx]

I AM HIM (OWLEL)

[hasty hound]

Spark vs mayhem is gonna be interesting to me

cause idk how to compare west to apac relatively

[karmic charm]

i dont know why i clicked this thinking that it wouldnt show me the answer

rip guess im not doing it today

[keen abyss]

LOOOOL

the back lines are not even close to even

shu >> twilight izayaki

viol2t > feedjaegon twilight izayaki

[karmic charm]

i dont think theres an argument for those backlines to even be considered close

[keen abyss]

and fearless is better in a straight up Winston mirror

[hot onyx]

better tracer is also wild af when Decay performs based on a coin flip

[karmic charm]

id argue shu viol2t is the best supp line in the league mechanically

[keen abyss]

shu moira clears twilight izayaki moira so the series is easy win for houston

[hot onyx]

Boston has just sucked on comps that aren't winston tracer against teams that aren't bottom feeders

[karmic charm]

honestly boston looked rough on winston tracer vs bottom feeder spitfire too

[north relic]

Fits best support mechicslly tbh

[karmic charm]

nyxl best team mechanically tbh

[stoic bronze]

Fits best dmg on support frfr

[north relic]

Nah

fits had the lowest dmg per ten on ana

out of like 15 people

[hot onyx]

that would've been map 5 if SparkR didn't put on a playoffs Carpe level reaper performance

[karmic charm]

nano ulted brig goes crazy

[north relic]

…

“If they played better it would have been a map 5”

[karmic charm]

nah

just if sparkr pressed q

[hot onyx]

he held his death blossom

for over five and a half minutes

[north relic]

he js using the threat to control the tempo

[hot onyx]

it was a London loss not a Boston win

and it was still one fight away

[north relic]

you just try your best to discredit every Boston W

[hot onyx]

that is false

[stoic bronze]

What happened to london

[hot onyx]

i give them credit where it is due

[stoic bronze]

They fell off after last season playoffs

[karmic charm]

he got death blossom at 5:15 and didnt use it until ot

[hot onyx]

they went 99-99 against Eternal in only ONE round

that's credible for them

[karmic charm]

cant play dive

dont look coordinated

[stoic bronze]

True true

[karmic charm]

hadi tank pool limited

[stoic bronze]

They dont have anyone good at sombra

[north relic]

They got mad lucky in playoffs

[stoic bronze]

Just spent money for another tank

[north relic]

got probably the two worst teams

trolling glads and Philly

[stoic bronze]

Thank God Houston beat them

[north relic]

God

lip is so good

lip on glads and they go all the way TBH

[keen abyss]

i dont mean to do a sans cosplay but

carpe philly too 😭

[north relic]

Yea it must suck

To have one of your best players injured

[keen abyss]

fr

[north relic]

would make the team a lot weaker

[keen abyss]

being a solid above average team and having one of your starting best players injured

then being forced to play against a bottom table team

and having everyone think your team is dog because you lost that

[north relic]

yea

[keen abyss]

i hope nothing bad happens to lip right before the midseason madness tournament begins

[north relic]

nothing stops him

he 1v5s Houston in a fist fight

and in ow

[stoic bronze]

Instead of getting spectra they should get seeker as a second hs

And putting hydron on tracer and sombra

And then force him to learn other heroes

[hot onyx]

no they should not

[cloud latch]

i hope nothing bad happens to fixa right before the midseason madness tournament begins

[keen abyss]

infernal management is so respectable

they were linked with so many main supports

so many false prophets

so many temptations

and they ignored all of them and chose the right path

they chose to stick with FiXa and it's paid dividends

[cloud latch]

how can you ignore the best path

???

[keen abyss]

big names such as ch0r0ng chiyo fielder vigilante

would tempt any team

[cloud latch]

it's like choosing either lip or merit or fits

[keen abyss]

fixa is such an underrated underappreciated gem that a lot of managements would go for the big bucks support players

[cloud latch]

fixa is lip in this case

merit is chorong

vindaim is

[keen abyss]

but infernal knew what was right

[cloud latch]

wait was vindaim an option for infernal

?

ok chiyo is fits

[keen abyss]

??

fits is an ana player

isnt he

or did he play lucio

[cloud latch]

he's whatever the team needs him to be

[keen abyss]

i dont watch nyxl games mickey mouse team

[cloud latch]

he's like batman

[keen abyss]

so he's not like chiyo

chiyo can only play brig lucio

[cloud latch]

"I'm whatever Gotham needs me to be."

-Batman

[keen abyss]

dva gigabuff

fits dva

[cloud latch]

makes sense

since dva is hs

[keen abyss]

fits ball!!

[cloud latch]

imagine him on winston

100% winston right click acc

[stoic bronze]

This year is fixas peak

He is not going to stay consistent

[cloud latch]

fixa doubter

YIKES

[keen abyss]

he's not like that freak proper

his legacy will last more than a season

[stoic bronze]

Propers legacy is lasting

[keen abyss]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

3-5 legacy!!

lost more sets this season already than last season

has won less matches this season than his worst stage last season

what a legacy!

[blissful umbra]

My MM preds are dog and that's ok.

[hasty hound]

twilight >
shu

[stoic bronze]

It's the other guys, if he went to infernal he would break the philly curse

[keen abyss]

no legacy

i fear

[stoic bronze]

Not like fixa would leave a legacy

[keen abyss]

he would also be interchangeable with zest

actually zest could be better

[stoic bronze]

Hes better than zest

[keen abyss]

since he already has synergy with fixa and mn3

[stoic bronze]

Zest is so ass

[keen abyss]

and the infernal system

proper could possibly be a detriment

[keen abyss]

first ms to win mvp

is quite a legacy

[stoic bronze]

Not likely

You forgot about chiyo and violet

[keen abyss]

how could chiyo win mvp

[stoic bronze]

True

Just violet

[keen abyss]

viol2t missed his chance

[stoic bronze]

But chiyo is going to get boosted by reign

For mvp

[earnest leaf]

a support is never winning mvp

[stoic bronze]

Shu was so close

[earnest leaf]

unless we get a perma meta of some shit like orisa/mei/junk with bapt/zen

the closest we got besides jjonak was viol2t in s3

[stoic bronze]

Shu violet mvp

Izayaki needs to step it up if he wants to beat jionak

[north relic]

Or tank imo

only situation is jq stomping

[stoic bronze]

Hanbin jq

[north relic]

whenever there is a good Winston

There is a better tracer

[stoic bronze]

Imagine having a good Winston but not a better tracer

Couldnt be the Toronto tornado

[north relic]

I meant for mvp candidates

[stoic bronze]

Who were last years

[north relic]

Smurf Reiner hanbin kevster proper shu

Zest

[stoic bronze]

Mn3 was better

Fool had to share playtime with carpe

[north relic]

Zest is a nut

Top 4 fdps

Kev proper yaki zest

And then stalker ALPHAYI

Pelican

Xhoisehwan

[keen abyss]

do you mean official mvp candidates

bc it was hadi instead of reiner for official

[stoic bronze]

Glads are such chokers

Like how did they beat reign in the pro am

[cloud latch]

proper kevin zest pelican last year for top 4 fdps

[stoic bronze]

But get beat by midfiant

[limpid grail]

because defiant are not mid

they are new York tier sadly

[loud elbow]

don't slander NY like that

I actually think they were doing decent but it was too late for them

Subbing out Halo was definitely the right call for them

[sullen berry]

OWLEL 479 2/8
🟩🟩🟩🟥
🟩🟩🟩🟩✅
owlel.zusor.io

[fast tusk]

as much as i want to think boston are boomed, i think boston are gonna meet atlanta in the finals. that being said atl will win it 4-0

[ebon aurora]

Boston over Outlaws?

[keen abyss]

aight but who's gonna trust the opinion of an atlanta bandwagonner

[fast tusk]

ye i know no one is gonna agree with me, its just a gut feeling and i really leaned into it

[keen abyss]

you were supposed to defend yourself from the bandwagonner allegations now i just feel mean

asshole.

[fast tusk]

lmao

well in that case. atleast i know atl wont lose B)

[uncut drum]

OWLEL 479 1/8
🟩🟩🟩🟩✅
owlel.zusor.io

easy

https://youtu.be/Yinl9-uiUf0

50 - 3:30

losing money if you make it to playoffs is crazy

[desert fractal]

bro

[plush grail]

to be fair

they ended 5th

[weary talon]

Its loseable

Twilight will have a stellar performance

And smurf is the winston god

[uncut drum]

true

but unless you win i dont think you even make a slight profit

[north relic]

yaki?

[cloud latch]

no

[karmic charm]

me

[cloud latch]

putting you in the top 4 would be unfair due to you being just that much better than everyone

[hasty hound]

Yes

[cloud latch]

No.

[hasty hound]

shut up hater

twilight is simply ana incarnate

[hasty hound]

who was a better widow, pine or ans?

[hasty hound]

wait omg was birdring a good widow

[karmic charm]

is this a genuine question

[hasty hound]

YES omg

[karmic charm]

pine was never good

[hasty hound]

omg wat

[karmic charm]

he was flashy but he wasnt good

[hasty hound]

icy

[karmic charm]

his death rates were miles higher than everyone else

ans in his prime was the best widow in owl iirc

[hasty hound]

oh

i see a lot of contention for best widow in owl

[karmic charm]

i dont think anyone really came close to 2020 ans

[hasty hound]

and i wasnt around the scene then so i have no knowledge of them really

[hasty hound]

ic

[cloud latch]

diem still beat ans in the 1v1 I fear 🥱

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/hh_varuna/status/1667917882187980800?s=20

varuna (@hh_varuna)

According to multiple sources, the Washington Justice are expected to release support player FdGod & sign support player D0nghun.

Twitter · Jun 11, 2023, 3:33 PM

well

that will be sad

fd did good

[full lichen]

If they drop FDgod, they should sign Ojee

[weary talon]

Whaaa

Why

Fdgod cant catch a break

He’s literally good idk what they’re on

[plush grail]

aint no fucking way

they do that to fdgod

if they get rid of fdgod

benbest is prolly also gonna be gone soon

[limpid grail]

bro why

he's literally not feeding this time

justice are top 5 for once

[weary talon]

Fdgod going back to shock

💀

[plush grail]

he's doing fine

[weary talon]

Has it been confirmed yet for vindaim leaving

[plush grail]

also switching your ms out halfway during the season

making the team mostly korean

no way they come back better

they have to relearn comms

and synergy

[weary talon]

Comms probably arent a problem

Or a minor problem if they were to be

[uncut drum]

maybe

[plush grail]

this is legit

god sabotaging fdgod

''oh no fdgod is looking good on washington''

''lets put him on the shock who is having backline issues''

[weary talon]

And shock has already ruined his reputation

2021 season , fd was mainly getting blamed for not achieving the three peat

[stoic bronze]

NOOOOO NOT FD

[cloud latch]

yeahhhh I feel bad for fdgod

[stoic bronze]

Wth is he going to do on a mid Korean roster

Benbest is prob gonna go with him then

[plush grail]

i could see benbest fdgod to vegas tbh

vulcan sucks ass

benbest is a huge upgrade

[stoic bronze]

If they're looking for another tank so they cam comm in Korean they should get muze

[plush grail]

rak and luke have nice synergy

but fdgod is a straight upgrade

[stoic bronze]

Synergy doesnt ,matter

[plush grail]

it really does

did it never click for u

that viol2t moth was top 1 for so long

because they had amazing synergy

a super aggro fs + a calm ms

[stoic bronze]

I meant for vegas

[plush grail]

oh yeah

rack and luke have good synergy

but im p sure a raw upgrade like fdgod

still nets a upgrade

[stoic bronze]

Also doesnt matter for toronto

[plush grail]

ojee uv are mediocre

[stoic bronze]

Cant believe uv used to be better than decent

[plush grail]

ojee uv peaked

at like top 10

they wont win shit

[stoic bronze]

Majed is so overrated this season

I dont think he will be as good as last year

Even when he gets his Visa he wont be that good

[cloud latch]

bro majed hasn't even played

seriously at least*

[stoic bronze]

Hes only played like twice

But I think people were over hyping him

I blame casores for everything

I like the guy, but like

He couldn't coach speedily well enough on tracer

[loud elbow]

why are they releasing the support that carried their shit

[full lichen]

Honestly, If FDgod and Be best go, Mirror is also probably going, he's not Korean either

He's vietnamese