esports-discussion

[weary talon]

Hog is worse

[lethal turtle]

nah roadhog is worse

[weary talon]

There

[rugged quest]

yeah ofc

but its hog yk

[dreamy cave]

They should just put max in for the L they know they ain't winning anyway

[gaunt cloak]

Ah yes prime the toilet bowl

Frowning (I wanted to see New Queen Street)

[placid fern]

oh?

zarya

??

what

[rugged quest]

why did junbin force orisa in hollywood and junkertown but not esperanca where she is pretty good

[rugged quest]

zarya cuz they predicted an orisa

[placid fern]

i didnt say the ?? bc that

[rugged quest]

oh alright i misunderstood

[heavy scroll]

this last match a bit of a snooze

[spare pecan]

Bullying

[old vine]

Shock in 5

3-2 shock

I believe

[spare pecan]

3-1 mayhem

[maiden ivy]

Imagine

[plush grail]

??

legit how

[maiden ivy]

Bye shock

[spare pecan]

They need like 8 fights in a row

[old vine]

Shock in 5

[gaunt cloak]

im so amazed

[old vine]

Proper bout to do proper things

[plush grail]

8 fights, like 2 ult cycles

[spare pecan]

Gg

[placid fern]

gg

[maiden ivy]

gg

[rugged quest]

are you watching the series

[old vine]

Shock take next map for sure

[ebon aurora]

ggs

[dreamy cave]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-dunking-on-spiderman-gif-26119954

[old vine]

2-2 legs goooo

[ebon aurora]

deserved win for Mayhem

[heavy scroll]

gg

[rugged quest]

shock in 7 🗣️

[weary talon]

No one can play on that team

[plush grail]

in true shock fashion, they lose the game because their backline got fucked

[old vine]

Shock in 5 😎😎

[ebon aurora]

er... about that

[old vine]

VINDAM CLUTCH LETS GOOOO

[placid fern]

my blud is 2 maps behind

[spare pecan]

Vindaim is getting dominated

[maiden ivy]

Man
Just give ATL the trophy, this season has been meh so far.

[weary talon]

Heesang cant play sombra junbin and proper dont counter dive or peel and vindaim is just dead all day

And finn is just there

[gaunt cloak]

I'm laughing my ass off and I can't tell if that makes me a bad person or not

[placid fern]

2 DEATHS

PER

10

[dreamy cave]

He was fucking

[placid fern]

??

true

but

??

HUH

[dreamy cave]

Nah I meant it how I said it

[weary talon]

Who’s next

[old vine]

SHOCK TAKE ROUND 1 OF MAP 5

[spare pecan]

Heesang sombra is like shy or jimmy like he just cant and idk why they force it

[old vine]

LETS GOOOO

[willow drum]

you don't

watch the game

[old vine]

SHOCK SHOCK SHOCK SHOCK

[willow drum]

everybody has so much recency bias it is crazy

[maiden ivy]

NY vs Washington

[willow drum]

nobody watched heesang sombra

yesterdat

lmao

[dreamy cave]

I love newyork

[ebon aurora]

I'm confused, are you watching the Titans game from yesterday or the Mayhem game just now?

[dreamy cave]

I really do

[willow drum]

i am convinced everybody just forgot

about shocks game yesterday

[earnest leaf]

Chimp brained owl fans are incapable of reading deeper than the kill feed as to why a team is losing

[old vine]

The game going on right now duh

[spare pecan]

It’s been bad all season though yesterday doesn’t rlly makeup for it

[willow drum]

LOL WHAT

[weary talon]

Exactly

[old vine]

I was the first to say they played good yesterday + heesang was amazing yesterday

[willow drum]

heesang sombra been bad all season ????

[earnest leaf]

Heesang sombra isn't the issue the issue is that shock as a team struggles with sombra comps

[weary talon]

Heesang has a had a mid sombra all season

[ebon aurora]

it didn't go to map 5...

[gaunt cloak]

I didn't even watch it I was at work LOL

[old vine]

It’s map 5 right now wym

[willow drum]

so did he have a mid sombra

or cant play sombra

[old vine]

I’m watching it…

[willow drum]

make up your mind

[spare pecan]

From what I’ve seen yea 😭

[ebon aurora]

Mayhem won 3-1???????

[gaunt cloak]

schizoing

[old vine]

No it’s 2-2

[willow drum]

you only look at the kill feed

not

convincing

[dreamy cave]

As a nyxl fan. It's going to hurt watching this match. But I did pred justice to win

[willow drum]

yeah i mean its justice

they could lose

[gaunt cloak]

I forgot whar I predded

[willow drum]

or they could 3-0

[maiden ivy]

Yesterday I just watched how my Defiants got demolished lmfaoo

[willow drum]

also imma be dead ass

[spare pecan]

His emps and how often he gets them too

[willow drum]

shock should have won 3rd map

[maiden ivy]

They have the potential tbh

[willow drum]

just plain wrong

[dreamy cave]

If justice shit their pants so bad they get 3-0. I'll buy a nyxl shirt

[willow drum]

heesang got a 5 man emp last fight

[weary talon]

In these echelon of play being mid at a hero = you cant play because your value if youre mid on a hero your value goes drastically down

[willow drum]

and his charge rate is usually above 50s

[willow drum]

just completely

[gaunt cloak]

Oh I predded Justice win 3-2

[willow drum]

worng again and again

being mid at a hero

doesn't mean you can't play them

in fact every sombra

that isn't lip

is mid

[weary talon]

No?

[willow drum]

yes

[rugged quest]

thats a stretch

[willow drum]

lol

[weary talon]

Merit has a good sombra

[willow drum]

mid compared to lip

what i'm saying is that your sombra player

unless they're downright

terrible

will never be the issue for your team

[weary talon]

It is

[willow drum]

like if you swap heesang and mer1t roles that game

shock still lose

lol

[weary talon]

Yes

[willow drum]

i swear everybody is braindead

did you forget heesangs stats

yesterday

or his insane ults

he had like 2 deaths in 20 mins of sombra gameplay

[weary talon]

Its been 5 weeks of play

[rugged quest]

what last fight

[willow drum]

the one where vindaim

died

first

(again)

[maiden ivy]

Lip is just him, no one in the league that plays sombra comes close.

[willow drum]

and somehow finn vindaim still look like wildlife photographers

go figure

[rugged quest]

so which round?

[willow drum]

last one

of push

also i guarantee

that if you swap reign's backline

and shock's backline

[weary talon]

I never said it was only heesangs fault ?? By far vindaim and finn are the bigger deadweight

[willow drum]

they would swap places in standings

[willow drum]

and i agree

[rugged quest]

oh i thought you said that heesang got 5 man emp last fight in junker town

[willow drum]

its just u said he cant play sombra

which is just

untrue !?

like even pro players disagree with u

[weary talon]

I mean just look at this series

Heesang often just died when trying to farm his emp

Which shouldn’t happen

[earnest leaf]

owl fans are probably the last people who should try to analyze who's doing poorly in this type of meta

[willow drum]

yeah i mean

[willow drum]

i mean

[earnest leaf]

gonna need the replay viewer and a few hours to figure that shit out lmao

[willow drum]

you can take out a sombras translocator

[earnest leaf]

alongside watching good teams play it and find the issues

[willow drum]

and if finn just straight up

does not heal you

are you supposed to live

[old vine]

SHOCK WIN FLORIDA IS OUT

[rugged quest]

i checked replay and there were 3 dead when he hit that 5man emp

[old vine]

https://tenor.com/view/sf-shock-san-francisco-shock-proper-shock-overwatch-ovewatch-esports-gif-27456219

[willow drum]

unlucky

tbf he wouldnt have won

either way

just a decoration emp

[weary talon]

Also people like to exclude proper from all blame

[willow drum]

proper is probably

the last person to blame

[weary talon]

I know

[willow drum]

if you're a shock fan

actually idk

[earnest leaf]

hard to solo carry vs ana brig

[willow drum]

i think junbin

[earnest leaf]

you can't kill them without pulse

[willow drum]

might be better

as of rn

[lethal turtle]

im glad the scriptwriters finally decided to stop rigging OWL for their posterboy team

[rugged quest]

junbin threw hollywood

[weary talon]

I just sometimes wondered where the florida backline pressure was at when someone was going on finn and vindaim

[willow drum]

and proper did not do a lot

on junk

town

[weary talon]

It felt like junbin and proper weren’t peeling nor counter diving

Some times

[willow drum]

i just genuinely think

shock could have made

korea

[weary talon]

Yes

[willow drum]

if finn didnt flick sleep a winston

[weary talon]

Yes

[willow drum]

20 inches away from him

LMAO

[weary talon]

I was so sad

[willow drum]

like if u beat mayhem 3-2

you can probably beat one of nyxl/justice

in that same way

[fast tusk]

someone has the most outgoing personality and i love it

[weary talon]

Missing a primal winston in a tiny room when he isn’t juggling you is wild

[rugged quest]

he sleeped before he used primal

[earnest leaf]

shock were getting rolled later in the play-ins regardless

and even if they did make midseason one of those teams would sweep them

[willow drum]

ye \

[weary talon]

Look if shock had won esperanca they would’ve won the series

[rugged quest]

finn hesitated for little too long and someone accidentally perfectly dodged sleep with a jump with his back turned on finn

[willow drum]

its probably better

that shock doesnt make it

for extra practice

[rugged quest]

kinda unlucky but finn lost them that fight for srue

[weary talon]

Im just sad for the players

I think some of the sfs might not find a team next season

[willow drum]

what.

the fact you genuinely said that is crazy

[earnest leaf]

shock's problems aren't player skill

[willow drum]

if you only rate teams on skill

shock are top 3 top 5

i dont get why people think these results are soley because

some of shocks players dont deserve owl

thats just not true

[weary talon]

They do

[willow drum]

all of these players should be

top 5 in their role

maybe bar heesang/finn

since competition for their roles is high

[weary talon]

Im just wondering who’ll want to sign max

For example

[willow drum]

teams that need

an off tank

[rugged quest]

so shock!

wait

[weary talon]

He has played less than Junbin so a smaller sample size and whenever he was in they underperformed even if it might not have been his fault

[heavy scroll]

this is my only correct matchup ;-;

[willow drum]

well i mean

this isnt an off tank meta rlly

[weary talon]

Like look at mikeyy

[willow drum]

you kinda need to be diverse

[willow drum]

mikeyy had

multiple offers

not from good teams

but from teams nonetheless

[weary talon]

Well then mb didnt follow that

[willow drum]

considering that max is korean

he has all of apac

[weary talon]

Wait the match is on

[rugged quest]

owl viewership keeps dropping every weekend

down to 40k

[cloud latch]

it's a good day when hellfire hard copes for shock

great even

[willow drum]

rupals drop off

should be studied

almost at the levl

of vindaim's

[weary talon]

This emp stuff is starting to become boring

[willow drum]

sombraero

[hasty hound]

oh shit

nyxl gaming

[weary talon]

Nice

[hasty hound]

nvm

[weary talon]

Though

Mirror needs to stop popping annihilation when they’re down two

Hes done it two times on one map now

[chilly atlas]

nyxl bout to come back

[hasty hound]

tru

[chilly mauve]

What was the purpose of Lep touching with beat?

I felt like they could have made it

[rugged quest]

big gamble

they were at spawn doors at like 92%

[chilly atlas]

weird map choice

[rugged quest]

how did koth overtime triggers work?

is 99% 99% auto overtime without touch

[rugged quest]

whose choice was it

[chilly atlas]

Nyxl

[weary talon]

Ot is triggered if someone touches at 97~96

Also flora man

And alphayi

[stray quarry]

whas goi@g on

[weary talon]

Justice is dominating that’s what’s going on

[rose snow]

Justice crushing NYXL

At least Hollywood was a slaughter

[stray quarry]

nyxls time was always limited

[weary talon]

Seeing alphayi on tracer is just a gift

[heavy scroll]

how was the last match?

[drowsy whale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/335570144535379982/1114662529076035634/caption.gif

[heavy scroll]

i blinked and they disappeared

[rose snow]

NYXL got destroyed

[crisp carbon]

ah nyxl getting shit on like usual

[weary talon]

Beautiful ult rotations from Washington

They always have one crucial ultimate up at all times

[rose snow]

That hanzo close range play

Beautiful indeed

[crisp carbon]

ny using three ults to loose a fight be like

[heavy scroll]

everybody claps

[weary talon]

That wasnt even remotely competitive lmao

[cloud latch]

just shows you how ass toronto is LMAO

[crisp carbon]

shameful nyxl performance on Havana my full condolences to any nyxl fans (do nyxl fans even exist tho?)

[weary talon]

Do not remind me

[cloud latch]

@north relic

honestly nyxl fans should be over the moon rn

cause I'm pretty sure everyone had them at the bottom 3

[north relic]

i didnt

[cloud latch]

just being this high is good enough I think

[cloud latch]

ofc you didn't

[crisp carbon]

true for nyxl leaving the spawn there is probably an achievement

[cloud latch]

they clapped team usa

[crisp carbon]

the current one and when?

wait looking at it isnt team usa basically just toronto defiant plus super? lmao

[weary talon]

And sugarfree

But yeah

Toronto midfiant

[crisp carbon]

LMAO so they clapped a pretty bad league team + a streamer

[weary talon]

“+ a streamer”

[crisp carbon]

omg wtf the us doesnt really have any outstanding players do they lol

[weary talon]

Super is outstanding

Hydron as well

[crisp carbon]

dont get me wrong i love super but if someone that stopped competing at the highest level a year ago is the peak of your skill its kind of a weak region

[weary talon]

I mean

[hazy marsh]

i mean if we're talking all time vs current

[dreamy cave]

When is the world cup??

[hazy marsh]

plus super could still compete if he had the drive, I dont think many of us doubt that

[weary talon]

If super were to get coaching he’d be right back to be one of the best tanks especially if rein is meta during wc

[rugged quest]

thats a massive if

rein meta is not happening

blizzard is afraid of buffing rein cuz hes a low elo stomper

[crisp carbon]

yeah thats true but i doubt we are ever gonna see the really good super again he just doesnt have the drive anymore and without the drive you are just not gonna be "him"

[stray quarry]

is Boston playing yet :3

[crisp carbon]

i mean its kind of sad that usa is still going to do really well in the world cup solely cause they have the advantage of just being fucking gigantic

[dreamy cave]

How many players they got??

[crisp carbon]

8 and all except super are owl

most other countries are mostly contenders max cause they are just way smaller so they have a way smaller pool to choose from

[dreamy cave]

Glads should win this

Actually nvm

[crisp carbon]

and why does puerto rico have its own team its also usa isnt it?

[dreamy cave]

Boston might win 3-2

[dreamy cave]

Nah. It's not

[crisp carbon]

i mean all puerto ricans are us citizens and have to follow us federal law dont they?

[dreamy cave]

I honestly don't know.

[crisp carbon]

to my knowledge pr is us territory

[weary talon]

Its like guam

They follow federal laws but they cant elect congress people and the president

[crisp carbon]

yeah i dunno to me personally it just sounds that the us wants a colony without admitting they have a colony taking taxes but not giving voting rights?

[weary talon]

Yes basically its very shitty

And guam is just a strategic naval outpost

[marsh dove]

doomteh returns 🙏

[keen abyss]

los angeles sapphiators

[marsh dove]

yaki on genji and u got chengdu dps duo

🥹

[crisp carbon]

my country has 1 contenders player 2 path2pro players and the rest ranked players one of them even low t500 🥹

[placid fern]

????

whats tha emp do

tf

[marsh dove]

people dick ride chiyo to the end of the earth holy

[weary talon]

Idk if my country even has contender players

Hell even tier3 players

[placid fern]

why is overwatch so lacking in reprensentation, i get in south korea its very popular but its kinda insane

[spare pecan]

wym

they r doing pride month rn

[crisp carbon]

us can hold their own through sheer size and sk can thanks to their highly competitive env and the popularity of the game the rest of the countries are just to many and to split to get a proper roster going if it was EU against NA i am pretty sure EU would win but its on a per country basis so its just rip

[crisp carbon]

we are talking about countries not the gays

[spare pecan]

just the players?

[willow drum]

aspire

would make it

interesting

[tawdry hamlet]

Would you rather have yznsa or malthel on dps on your owl team

[weary talon]

How do you lose with twilight

Twilight is probably the best ana in the world

[tawdry hamlet]

Always has been

[crisp carbon]

yeah fr twillight is just different

[tawdry hamlet]

🧑‍🚀 🧑‍🚀

[hot onyx]

kid named alarm

[tawdry hamlet]

True but he was so good at zen too people forget his Ana was insane

Twilight alarm and jjonak forever top 3 Ana then fielder

[dreamy cave]

You can't tell me twilight isn't the goat

[tawdry hamlet]

Teru is cracked at ow I'm not going to lie

A true beast

[dreamy cave]

He do be getting kills

[weary talon]

That boston backline is a cheat code istg

[tawdry hamlet]

It's so sick to see fielder play with a main support who's equally as insane at their role

[stray quarry]

twilight is not real

[tawdry hamlet]

Chiyo clears jecse so hard

[dreamy cave]

Kai man... he's my former atl player. I like him. But he had to get off my team yo I couldn't take it anymore after last year

[stray quarry]

I want to see birdring bastion again

[tawdry hamlet]

Mirror torb again

[stray quarry]

Smurf primal

So clean

SEEEEE NINE

wait did danteh get booped off

[dreamy cave]

Never play kai glads.

[weary talon]

By ljg and then slept by the man the carry

Twilight

[stray quarry]

leejaeboop

twilight role star!

[weary talon]

Kai is very good

[dreamy cave]

He is good. It's just after souljern wasn't all that great of a pick anymore. He couldn't keep up

[fast tusk]

kev got switched out

its a joever now

[hasty hound]

Wow i dont think ive ever seen that sentence

[tawdry hamlet]

Kai is mechanically goated but falls behind in play similar to Ans

[mortal cipher]

wot the

[chilly mauve]

Ggs

It’s over for Boston

they put in lastro on flex support

SBD energy incoming

[hasty hound]

twilight brainpower incomprehensible

questionable emp from bird

[jagged cargo]

i just wanna see the glads succeed 😦

[hasty hound]

DECAYYY

that pulse actually craz e

[jagged cargo]

kalios with the goofy ahh pick

[hasty hound]

what is kalios doing

stop throwing!

[jagged cargo]

this is not throwing anymore, they are catapulting

[hasty hound]

they had such a good startt

[jagged cargo]

average owl throw eh

[dreamy cave]

Why

Why throw?

[hasty hound]

can we put smurf back in

kalios is

not smurf

[dreamy cave]

What is lil bro doing on the horse

[stray quarry]

birdring not cooking I’m afraid

[jagged cargo]

bastion diff eh

[dreamy cave]

DECAY IS SO INCONSISTENT ITS CANCERIOUS

[stray quarry]

birdring is back

genuinely hate this

[icy kestrel]

Glads suck after the mayhem match they used all there effort now they got nothing left in them

I miss the good mayhem

🦧

[jagged cargo]

mayhem aint bad now tho

[icy kestrel]

They lost 3-0 glads

[stray quarry]

MANIFESTING BOSTON 3-0

[jagged cargo]

mayhem is 6 2 in standings what are you on about

[icy kestrel]

I think mayhem trolls to much

[icy kestrel]

But they troll way to much

[hasty hound]

3-0 is crazy

[stray quarry]

ez

[jagged cargo]

also it's way too early to tell who's good/bad

[stray quarry]

mayhem glads rematch bitch

[hasty hound]

i knew boston is THE team

[jagged cargo]

except for atl

[dreamy cave]

I preded boston to win in the upper bracket

[old vine]

Well then

Boston top 3 team?

[icy kestrel]

I assume mayhem beat shock?

[dreamy cave]

Boston 4th

[hasty hound]

3-1

[dreamy cave]

Mayhem 3rd

[spare pecan]

Florida vs glads rematch

[old vine]

Mayhem over Boston?

[hasty hound]

boston is better than mayhem

[old vine]

Has Boston played mayhem?

I think Boston is better Ngl

[hasty hound]

mayhem lost to glads, boston 3-0'd glads

diff

[spare pecan]

Real

[dreamy cave]

I gotta see them have a match

[icy kestrel]

The 3rd time

[spare pecan]

Hopefully Florida win

I always pray on glads downfall

Would hate to see them qual

[lethal turtle]

zamn boston just c00ked sadiators

[dreamy cave]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

NO SPACE???

[frank dragon]

so teams arent allowed to have off days?

[icy kestrel]

I hope they 3-0 them

[frank dragon]

by that logic Dragons > Infernal

lmao

[jagged cargo]

@frank dragon agreed

[old vine]

Reign still goes flawless in tourney

Idc

[spare pecan]

Nah I feel like we drop a map in grands at least

[old vine]

8-0

We flawless

[icy kestrel]

Yeah but they got point taken from them

[hasty hound]

yeah

uprising better

[old vine]

Umm ok? We still flawless😂😂

[jagged cargo]

dropped two maps akshually

[old vine]

Ian say we didn’t drop a map but we haven’t lost a game

[icy kestrel]

What they lost a round?

I thought they 3-1 outlaws

[spare pecan]

Haven’t lost a full game

[heavy scroll]

damn

[hasty hound]

ooh they cocky

[heavy scroll]

"thankfully we went up against glads" so disrespectful

[old vine]

Right lol

[hasty hound]

love the confidence

[spare pecan]

They spittin

Glads #1 hater same with Toronto

‼️

[dreamy cave]

There are 2 decays.
Play off Decay
And Depression

[jagged cargo]

Striker > Decay

[hasty hound]

who is striker

[uncut drum]

Where is striker

[jagged cargo]

When is striker

[dreamy cave]

Leave > decay

[hasty hound]

decay is good

[frank dragon]

I prefer Malthel

[hasty hound]

isnt he on vegas

[spare pecan]

He clears any dps in the league rn

[frank dragon]

fr

[jagged cargo]

He's on Munich Munchers

[hasty hound]

ohh

[dreamy cave]

Of fuck. Boston vs Houston

[spare pecan]

The way it’s looking we could end up with dreamers in there

😭

[dreamy cave]

I do want it

[hollow briar]

Wait South Korea is not for grand finals?

Oh then

[lethal turtle]

what determines east 1st vs 2nd?

[safe smelt]

numbers

[gloomy pulsar]

REIGN WINNING

[cobalt moss]

who's east 1st rn

[gloomy pulsar]

i think GZ?

[cobalt moss]

oh true

[gloomy pulsar]

they went a long time without losing

i think 5? more likely 4

but they were doing good

i dont keep up with east

[limpid grail]

there are two decays

decay and decayed

[keen abyss]

they got eliminated

[cobalt moss]

so spark and dreamers are in midseason?

[stoic bronze]

Ye

God, they need to update the brackets

[sullen berry]

Only two teams make it out of Knockouts, Spark and dreamers are fighting for one spot

[gusty rampart]

Dreamers sweep

[sullen berry]

Considering there's two groups, we're only getting one winner from each group (winner of Dreamers vs Spark, winner of Seoul Infernal vs Dallas Fuel)

Both matches tonight are best of 4

[worn falcon]

Philly Infernal championship soon

[sullen berry]

The true matchup between Dallas and the Fuel, plus Fusion vs Infernal

Chasing identities

OWLEL 472 3/8
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[sullen berry]

Post your results

[ebon aurora]

best of 7 you mean, which is first to 4

[wet storm]

dreamers in 7, and dallas in 6-7

[ebon aurora]

has OWL even done back to back best of 7s before?

it's usually only tournament finals right? And technically we get two "finals"

[wet storm]

i don’t think so, but this is going to be something else

[ebon aurora]

yeah this could be a LONG day of OWL

not that I'm complaining

this is a dominant start by Spark

[lethal turtle]

wonder if dreamer will get a single elim

😂

[ebon aurora]

was just about to say, have Spark had a player die yet

[lethal turtle]

dive is actually such a good noobcheck comp

[ebon aurora]

damn Dreamers actually won in the mirror

I didn't see that coming

[slate siren]

Leave is so fucking good

[dreamy cave]

I missed the first map. Was it close??

[ebon aurora]

2-1 Spark

Dreamers won in the dive mirror 100-99 on City Centre

but they got rolled when running the Rein rush into dive on Gardens and University

[dreamy cave]

Dang

[ebon aurora]

why did Dreamers not go to BW

Lige Dva, force Twenty in

because this is an absolute roll

[sullen berry]

Ah yeah I did think I fumbled that

[lethal turtle]

this is going about as expected as can be

[hazy marsh]

wait

did charge lose to dreamers yesterday

[keen abyss]

yeah

[hazy marsh]

wtf

how

[keen abyss]

pretty strongly

people underestimate ezhan

i've seen so many people put him in the lower echelon of hs players

but the matches i saw him play last year on valiant he looked so good

[rose snow]

I mean he’s good for sure

He’s literally playing against OWL players and holding his own, but I wouldn’t put him first echelon

[hazy marsh]

I didnt doubt ezhan

I just didn't think dreamers as a team would be nearly good enough to beat the charge

what happened man...

[rose snow]

It was close maps tbh

[wet storm]

mmonk is my player of the match so far

[dreamy cave]

Dreamers...

Please

Not like this

[wet storm]

dreamers in 7

[dreamy cave]

I just need 1 map plz

[acoustic bluff]

Hey guys whats up ? I'm looking for best website where there is tournament

I used to go on Game battle

[wet storm]

this isn’t even close

[dreamy cave]

This has all been dive. No rush or anything

[rose snow]

Rip

[slow lake]

ChoiSehWan having his Worst Game of the split really Robbed us of a Zhoudown today because this series is so sleeper

[wet storm]

if dreamers somehow win this map i’ll send someone random 10$ via cashapp

[dreamy cave]

I could use the 10 tbh

[lethal turtle]

leave is just smurfing this lobby

[wet storm]

leave looking like me in plat lobbies

[dreamy cave]

Rip hunters.

[slate siren]

Leave is the fucking greatest player of all time

[dreamy cave]

My ball comps are gone forever

Leave > proper

[slate siren]

And how tf did the Charge lose against this team?

[slate siren]

Factual

[rose snow]

They didn’t DPS diff Dreamers like Leave did

[lethal turtle]

wtf who decides potm, leave robbed

[uncut drum]

the casters

[slate siren]

True

[slate siren]

Jimmy became Middy 😭😭

Jimmy back to his original form

[slow lake]

Jimmy was the best DPS in that lobby

[uncut drum]

did you watch the match?

he was still himmy

piggy was mid

he needs to be better at main tank

[weary talon]

Piggy got shit on by ezhan

Any leap he did on winston got met with storm arrows to the face by ezhan

[slate siren]

Piggy more like Shitty

🥹

He’s got too much ego for a mid player lol

[weary talon]

Piggy still better than most NA tanks

[slow lake]

Piggy and Choi got clapped

[rose snow]

Yeah I can agree with that, but it wasn’t the absolute difference between DPS we just saw with Spark vs Dreamers

[uncut drum]

piggy is very good

[rose snow]

EzHan got rekt over and over

[uncut drum]

he dosent play main tank

he mains off

this is his first year on mt

[slow lake]

@rose snow Both Leave and Shy were gapping Dreamers to be fair. Jimmy had no help since Choi was playing uncharacteristically bad.

[rose snow]

Fair

[mortal abyss]

zest yummy

[hazy marsh]

English only

[rose snow]

Thanks moderator

Was about to DM modmail

[ebon aurora]

already did it

[rose snow]

👍

[hazy marsh]

same

[icy kestrel]

I like fuel put the team it’s fell from the top and now they bad

They playing ball on them

[slow lake]

MAG plays Ball on everyone?

He owned Charge on Ball on this map.

[icy kestrel]

That gold dragon looked cool with the colour

[hazy marsh]

im sorry but your grammar gives me a headache

[dreamy cave]

Chengdu hunters 2023???

[icy kestrel]

🦧🦧🦧

[icy kestrel]

That team I think like died for something idk o forgor

[mortal abyss]

zest giga carry

[hollow bough]

infernal is locked in rlly nice

everything is moving like clockwork

[mortal abyss]

actually not really a carru

infernal are just better rn

[icy kestrel]

Way better

[hollow bough]

sad to see dallas like this

[hazy marsh]

i just wish hanbin got to be on a better team man

[uncut drum]

edision?

how

lol

[mortal abyss]

i mean theyre not even bad infernal are just really good

[uncut drum]

stunned

[mortal abyss]

LOL

[slow lake]

Edison?

lmfaoL

[mortal abyss]

i dont know how

[uncut drum]

that was a train wreck

[slow lake]

LMFAOGRHGJGNRGJJ

THIS TEAM IS AWFUL

[mortal abyss]

this is domination

[icy kestrel]

I think enternal could probably win a round against fuel

[hollow bough]

LMAOOOOO

[mortal abyss]

legit had 4 minutes

[uncut drum]

we need to see the edision death

[dreamy cave]

What was lil bro doing?

[uncut drum]

how is he deathless

wtf

4overwatch

[hollow bough]

that is insane

[icy kestrel]

Bruh he didn’t die

[dreamy cave]

O4watch

[mortal abyss]

skewed a bit too cracked

[uncut drum]

nah

we need to see that death replay

they better show that

[dreamy cave]

They might not have it I'm spectators

In

[icy kestrel]

🦧🦧🦧

[unique root]

no bc that is so unfortunate

[slow lake]

Can they show Edison death jesus

[icy kestrel]

No they forgor💀

[slow lake]

AFK Spectators

[icy kestrel]

I was spectating a something once

[slow lake]

Okay time to Bin the Doomfist

This aint looking good

[icy kestrel]

They have a round to troll

[slow lake]

Just 4-0 and put Dallas out of their misery early

[icy kestrel]

But 1-4 is longer I get more coins

[cobalt moss]

what about a 3-4?

🤭

[icy kestrel]

I wouldn’t mind but wouldn’t watch it all

I ain’t watching more than 5 rounds

[cobalt moss]

True 7 maps would be like what, 3 hours +?

[icy kestrel]

15 coins

[cobalt moss]

15...

yikes

[mortal abyss]

skewed is giga carried

just

giga carried

[slow lake]

Fixa gap

[icy kestrel]

That game was awful

[mortal abyss]

yeah fixa has been immense

[candid radish]

Does this count as the philly fusion winning something

[weary talon]

Infernal too good

[hollow bough]

reverse sweep

[icy kestrel]

Can they pause so I can use the bathroom

[mortal abyss]

zest just owned him

[slow lake]

Zest gapping Sparkle but got gapped by Choi but Choi gapped by Spectra, so Spectra > Zest!!!

Also why was Hanbin half HP for like 10 seconds, was MCD afk?

there wasn't a fight going on either

[mortal abyss]

we won a final!!!!!

that was so good lmao

[slow lake]

Only reason Dallas lost that is because Seoul can constest bot on highground

No idea why that is still allowed

[uncut drum]

the 2nd place curese is sort of broken

[mortal abyss]

tbh

we were second in the standings

so

[slow lake]

Even when they're the best team they're second place

[karmic charm]

all this to still be 2nd to the spark

in qualifying ^

[mortal abyss]

i think we are first seed

1st apparently https://twitter.com/rostonyoo/status/1665315405815230464?s=20

Roston Yoo (@rostonyoo)

MIDSEASON MADNESS, HERE WE COME!!! In the Infernal's FIRST tournament appearance, we go undefeated for the FIRST place finish to secure the FIRST seed out of the East region for the MSM. DAMNIT FIRST IS SUCH A NICE WORD, BLESS AND LOVE YOU ALL!! Fusion heart, Infernal soul 🧡🖤❤️

Twitter · Jun 4, 2023, 11:11 AM

[slow lake]

umm How are they first seed? They were on the 2nd seed bracket

This format is so weird

[mortal abyss]

idk!

maybe because we finished above spark in the standings

[slow lake]

yeah that's probably it

[weary talon]

Wait what is the infernals record atm

Undefeated like reign?

[slow lake]

no

Lost to Dynasty week 1

[weary talon]

Lol

Ofc they lose to the second worst apac owl team

[stray pond]

just joined to see we got rekt

rip

but hey

at least we beat o2 better then infernal

[karmic charm]

nop

nope

spark are

which doesnt make much sense to me

unless liquipedia has it wrong?

[mortal abyss]

https://twitter.com/rostonyoo/status/1665319861252177920

Roston Yoo (@rostonyoo)

@Tarkusauke This will likely be corrected soon, if GZC were to come out of Group A, they would hold 1st seed, but as they were eliminated, we are the 1st seed out of the East.

Twitter · Jun 4, 2023, 11:29 AM

[karmic charm]

odd

i sent a msg in liquipedia server so theyll change it soon probs

[stoic bronze]

Zest is already bad

[acoustic bluff]

which platform would you advise for OW2 esport ?

[mortal abyss]

If you want to actually go pro then PC

[hasty hound]

where did spark go

i cant even find spark vs dreamers on pickems

where was that match even like relayed

ts not even on there !

[karmic charm]

u have to scroll

[hasty hound]

oh

i feel rather a fool

💀

[marsh dove]

zest > sparkle

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/ow_Marve1/status/1665273087464439808?t=Nxxk5lfWLjQK5iV_5GRCvQ&s=19

Marve1 (@ow_Marve1)

LFT OWL

Tank
I’m FA now
I will do my best

Discord:Marve1#6295

RTs appreciated!

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Twitter · Jun 4, 2023, 8:23 AM

[north relic]

cold take

everyone with a brain cell knows zest CLEARS that sp9 guy

[marsh dove]

yt chat got on my ass when i said that 💀

[uncut drum]

what

why did 02 drop him

[lethal turtle]

sparkle is extremely mid, not sure why he was pciked for team korea

sparkle < zest < oldmanjinmu

[placid fern]

i just realized theres no grand final bo7 for the west

damn

[worn falcon]

all of O2 are LFT

[placid fern]

hangzou is gonna get curbstomped at MSI

[worn falcon]

attack, knife and irony are LFT OWL

topdragon too

[placid fern]

east is such a bad region outside infernal

as of current atleast

at the start of the year it was looking promising

hangzou seemed good

infernal

dynastyy

and only 1 is top of OWL level

(im not saying the east isnt OWL level im saying top OWL level btw)

[karmic charm]

spark have imrpoved since those losses tho

dynasty never seemed good tbh

[placid fern]

they look on par with the justice which isnt saying much better then mid tier tho

slightly above mid tier

[placid fern]

'and dynasty showed sparks of greatness at the start

but yh

they fell off

[karmic charm]

dynasty had a really rough first game that htey barelywon from what i saw

then instant drop

[placid fern]

against the infernal a wins a win tho tbf

but yeah

it was an instant plummet

free falling harder then the shock fr

[karmic charm]

infernal also looked p shit that series

[placid fern]

fair

[karmic charm]

this may be a bit far 😭

shock are just embarrassing this season

[placid fern]

i mean

in speed

not like

actual how hard they fell

cause shock was fairly gradual like when they lost to trick room

[karmic charm]

tbf yeah ig

[placid fern]

alright

200 ping

6am

i can pass it slightly

then it was a downfall slowly and painfully

[karmic charm]

i cant rly say much about shock tho as a spitfire fan

[unique root]

did glads win yesterday

i wasn't able to watch

[karmic charm]

no

they got 3-0d

[unique root]

oh....

[wispy leaf]

not even for advance matches?

[icy kestrel]

I think mayhem can beat justice

[placid fern]

arent mayhem favored

[icy kestrel]

Probably

[unique root]

i wonder how close the gtame will be

[icy kestrel]

Will mayhem lose a 3rd time to the glads that’s the question

[plush grail]

nayhem sweep

[uncut drum]

another new team

lol

i hope they get picked up in the midseason thing

[hasty hound]

thats awful wtf

what does LFT mean

[worn falcon]

looking for team

they looking to get picked up for OWL

[plush grail]

???

why

would any team pick them up

rn

[worn falcon]

Vegas may need them

[unique root]

vegas 😭

[plush grail]

cuyowski

ur better than this

i will verbally assault you

[sullen berry]

@plush grailwatch me trigger your adhd

by just existing

[plush grail]

ur team losy

to a tendies team

[sullen berry]

moving on

where the justice fans

especially pokemonpat

the nicest guy on the server

[plush grail]

legit none of the esports chat regulars are nice

everyone here is a asshole

[sullen berry]

he was a what now

oh nvm he's too friendly for regular

I'm quinquennial

[plush grail]

!!joined

[sullen berry]

that means I'm 5 times as nice! 😁

[young fractal]

You joined on Jun 01, 2019

[unique root]

like regular role? LMFAO

[plush grail]

almost

[sullen berry]

!!joined

[young fractal]

You joined on Jul 14, 2016

[sullen berry]

get it

[plush grail]

i have never lost regular

lmao

[ebon aurora]

wow...

[sullen berry]

unrelated but thoughts on charge bike

[worn falcon]

Wash vs Mayhem

man

[sullen berry]

Just Mayhem

[worn falcon]

sad isnt kiriko's bike

[ebon aurora]

I still think Mayhem make it over Glads

even if Glads won 3-0 against Mayhem a couple of days ago

[plush grail]

i feel baited, i assumed the bike would be in a pve mode

[unique root]

i rly like it ngl its so cool LOL

[sullen berry]

Hammond's bike is whatever this dude is doing

[hasty hound]

uprising beats outlaws trust

[cloud latch]

NO

[unique root]

DONT SAY THAT

[plush grail]

VEGAS!!!!

WE GOT SCREENTIME

WE WERE MENTIONED

[cloud latch]

imo vegas is mentioned too much in owl

[hollow briar]

I’m not

I just make fun of my home team

[cloud latch]

the rate of which owl should mention vegas is the rate they mention an open division team (so like never)

[plush grail]

no

[heavy scroll]

Lovely day for mayhem to possibly loose to glads again

[icy kestrel]

Y’all won a single round

[ebon aurora]

do we know yet when Valiant plays Vegas

[tawdry hamlet]

Kind of crazy to think a 2 years off benbest, 1 year off fdgod, teru on support, and some solid dps are so insanely far ahead of odyssey vegas. I never thought the gaps between players were so big

Tbh if vegas odyssey had any other flex dps that played on odyssey they'd be so much better

[ebon aurora]

solid DPS is an understatement

like Flora/AlphaYi is legit a great DPS duo

[hasty hound]

i think theyre pretty great

[plush grail]

to be fair

[tawdry hamlet]

Indeed, I always thought flora was somewhat overrated but he's playing even better everywhere he goes

[plush grail]

fdgod and benbest have experience playing with top tier dps

[tawdry hamlet]

So does mirror

So you have a point

[plush grail]

overrated af in his rookie year

kinda underrated now

[tawdry hamlet]

People compared him to Yaki his rookie year

It hurts me that fits is mid now

[plush grail]

i remember hyping that one nyxl roster flora was on

with the 4 dps

[tawdry hamlet]

Gwangboong ivy flora and uh who was the fourth

[plush grail]

feather

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah

[unique root]

also why are east matches first to 4 instead of 3 i have been meaning to ask and. i don't wanna google it

[dreamy cave]

Mayhem sweep ez

[plush grail]

its funny

[unique root]

oh thanks

[ebon aurora]

why is Mirror in if they want to play Winston?

I guess they're going Dva for Lighthouse and Mirror is a better Dva than Benbest?

[earnest leaf]

I hope brig and sombra are out of the meta next stage

[marsh dove]

what happen to hero bans

[plush grail]

never happening

[ebon aurora]

sombra yes, idm Brig that much

[sullen berry]

turns out 5v5 didn't need it

[earnest leaf]

brig is just annoying because half the time you just nano rally and win a fight for free if you get dove

[plush grail]

unfun mechanic which forces weird comps and punishes good player

[earnest leaf]

sombra makes the game so fucking ass since it's just waiting for emp

[tawdry hamlet]

Sombra makes lips team best in the world no matter who he plays with its just factual

[earnest leaf]

atlanta doesn't even need sombra to be the best team

ngl atl should be the best at any meta besides hard double FS

[ebon aurora]

idk about that

like if it was a hard winston meta without sombra

I'd take Outlaws

[earnest leaf]

fielder/chiyo are just too good

[ebon aurora]

Shu/Viol2t?

[earnest leaf]

in double FS shu viol2t is better

[marsh dove]

theyre good but are they good enough to have a big enough impact to win against outlaws alone?

nah.

[earnest leaf]

but in most other cases fielder and chiyo are gonna be better

[ebon aurora]

but the winston diff would be bigger than the support diff

[earnest leaf]

lip is also much better than happy and stalker has been on the level of pelican this year

winston gap can only do so much

[ebon aurora]

Has Lip played much Hanzo in OWL

I genuinely don't remember

[sullen berry]

yes

[earnest leaf]

no idea but it's hanzo so he's probably good at him

[sullen berry]

hanzo and widow

[ebon aurora]

I remember him on Ashe/Soujorn/Widow

I don't remember him on Hanzo

[earnest leaf]

For outlaws to be the top team they just need some shit like hs/echo winston double FS

or they would also be really good in a poke comp I think

basically any double FS meta

[heavy scroll]

Kitsune better than bob on control?

[jagged cargo]

Next season is NYXL season trust

[marsh dove]

sojourn aint it !

[heavy scroll]

Slid towards the enemy while low hp

[unique root]

the standing around for justice intro is always going to be so silly to me

[marsh dove]

easily the worst hype video

💀

[heavy scroll]

This is bullying

[unique root]

oh wow

[marsh dove]

how is fd always dying first

[supple prism]

because fdgod is a borderline reddit lucio

[heavy scroll]

Mayhem trying to make this whole profram 2 hours tops

[marsh dove]

he use to get away with being a real reddit lucio on the shock

[weary talon]

Why are a lot of teams trying the lucio ana approach against winston sombra tracer when brig ana has proven itself to be better over and over

[marsh dove]

guess 1 less tank makes tht harder

[icy kestrel]

This might be faster than Vegas vs mayhem on blizzard world

[mortal cipher]

oh my

[supple prism]

i think they like lucios beat against emp

[heavy scroll]

Hold on

Spectator's jinx

[dreamy cave]

Mirror is just kinda flubbing to me

Also if merit is going to play ash. Please land your shots

It's not hanzo. You have less of a excuse

[worn falcon]

they brought the mayhem huh