If they win
#esports-discussion
drowsy whale
TITANS WOULDVE WON IF NOT FOR THIS 
chilly mauve
I’m the biggest danteh supporter bud
stray quarry
weary talon
Top 5 west looking like atl Houston glads boston and justice
sullen berry
Lige vs Piggy
was really hoping to see former outlaws tanks face off in piggy and dreamer
ebon aurora
damn I completely forgot Dreamer used to be on Outlaws
he didn't play much for them right?
If this was Charge's pick, why would they pick a map where Choi can't play Tracer since he has to play Echo?
is Jimmy's Tracer that good?
I really don't understand that map choice
like couldn't Charge have played Choi Tracer Jimmy Ashe?
keen abyss
Top 5 west looking like atl Houston glads boston and justice
not including mayhem is wild
ebon aurora
Yeah I'd have Mayhem over Justice in that top 5
keen abyss
one bad game doesnt take mayhem out of top 5
keen abyss
glads were the better team today
ebon aurora
like I'd probably have Mayhem as the better team this season
ebon aurora
But then Boston lost 3-0 to Titans
keen abyss
atl houston boston florida glads
keen abyss
But then Boston lost 3-0 to Titans
yeah but izayaki was out
twilight probably lacks a lot of scrim time on certain maps and modes
ebon aurora
I mean it's not like LJG/Twilight is a bad supp line lol
keen abyss
if they commit izayaki to certain maps/comps/playstyles
like im pretty sure they usually play izayaki ljg first map
twilight ljg second map
izayaki twilight third map
izayaki ljg fifth map
idr fourth
do they play twilight izayaki on all push maps
ebon aurora
you don't usually play double flex on push
keen abyss
they did today no?
ebon aurora
idk, I was asleep during that match
but in general, you usually run stuff like lucio kiri
on push
keen abyss
i feel like some teams are moving away from that
weary talon
not including mayhem is wild
I mean mayhem lost to glads now twice this year and the justice have been improving every week now and beat the glads and had a close game with boston
keen abyss
I mean mayhem lost to glads now twice this year and the justice have been improv...
mayhem was the better overall team in the first series
and have looked better than glads in other matches besides valiant'
ebon aurora
yeah but would you take Justice over Mayhem in a head to head game?
I certainly wouldn't
weary talon
I would
keen abyss
we're basically guaranteed to see it
ebon aurora
that will be the lower SF
keen abyss
but if mayhem loses to shock
ebon aurora
yeah, Mayhem should win that
keen abyss
i think it's safe to say justice is better
keen abyss
I mean mayhem lost to glads now twice this year and the justice have been improv...
didnt justice get swept by nyxl
ebon aurora
as much as I like NYXL this season, I think Justice are favourites
keen abyss
a worse team than glads
ebon aurora
yes they did
weary talon
didnt justice get swept by nyxl
Yes but keep in mind they had to had to fight glads the day after
keen abyss
what if it was just a bad day for glads
weary talon
Im assuming they focused on the glads game and underestimated nyxl
ebon aurora
I'm really curious about the O2 Blast v Fuel match
hasty hound
How is charge losing to a contenders teem
ebon aurora
I think Charge chose a bad control map
hasty hound
I'm really curious about the O2 Blast v Fuel match
I think o2 wins easily tbh
Fuel kinda mid !
ebon aurora
like they chose Ilios so Choi doesn't play Tracer since he played Echo
hasty hound
Ah
ebon aurora
to me, that makes no sense
ebon aurora
like couldn't they play Choi Tracer Jimmy Ashe? Ashe has always been good on Ilios, especially Lighthouse
weary talon
Idk if tokens arr worth staying up till 4 am for mw
West games are in the middle of tje night for me
hasty hound
Oh damn
weary talon
I mean not really
hasty hound
That timezone diff
weary talon
From 20:30 to like 3am
ebon aurora
APAC games start at 9am for me, NA at 8pm
weary talon
https://twitter.com/GZCharge/status/1664725496112766977?s=20
Real and factual
ebon aurora
so I get to watch a lot of the matches - I doubt I'll get to see much MSM though
as that's like 2am
hasty hound
i wanna watch blast beat fuels awful backline into the ground
also want to wake up before 1
dilemma
weary talon
How fuel win last year and now fumble so hard
ebon aurora
well that was a roll
sullen berry
How fuel win last year and now fumble so hard
MCDonalds backline
ebon aurora
over 2 minutes left on KR, oof
weary talon
MCDonalds backline
Fuel first team to sign plat players⁉️⁉️😯
hasty hound
i had a plat ana in qp im confident is better than Mcd
weary talon
I think its pretty safe to say that infernal are the best apac team
weary talon
Imo spark is second
sullen berry
dreamers tied for 4th
weary talon
Charge had a very strong start but last two weeks they lost a bit of that dog in em
sullen berry
not even o2 blast level but them and poker face have made a name for themselves
whereas panthera
fate
what a disappointment
hasty hound
dynasty:
sullen berry
weary talon
Im curious
Do the contenders players get the same salary for the duration of the tournament than owl players
hasty hound
is it just me or does xerneas die so much
i remember in the spark game he had like 7 deaths
hasty hound
Do the contenders players get the same salary for the duration of the tournament...
I'd assume no as they're not signed to a professional team
which pays the salary
not OWL
ebon aurora
going to be interesting to see some of the top Contenders teams playing regular season OWL games
rather than just knockout matches
hasty hound
when u have "owl teams" like Shanghai and dynasty
hasty hound
weary talon
Fletank experiment is like if dr frankenstein failed his experiment
hasty hound
Lmao
ebon aurora
that was a questionable rally
lament blade
Dreamers let’s go 
sullen berry
Piggy
rough harness
i only started following owl recently, why is Dallas in APAC?
sullen berry
ebon aurora
the core of the team wanted to move
otherwise they'd have lost Hanbin, Edison and Sp9rk1e
same with Rush
sullen berry
i only started following owl recently, why is Dallas in APAC?
the players wanted to stick together after winning OWL last season, so they moved to Korea
lament blade
Jimmy has begun intercourse
ebon aurora
8m on point B
sullen berry
that's full on intercourse
ebon aurora
yikes
don't think I've ever seen point B stopped that early
like did the cart even move?
lament blade
At least they got the point? 
sullen berry
the cart does a little push from the door, so probably not
lament blade
sullen berry
ebon aurora
where do we think Dreamers pick
idk if I'd go Junkertown/Rialto because of Jimmy's Widow
keen abyss
i wanna watch blast beat fuels awful backline into the ground
bliss is a solid player
ebon aurora
so Shambali I guess?
keen abyss
don't rope him in with mcdeez
lament blade
An above average player grouped with a below average one
Hence Dallas’ backline being mid
ebon aurora
call me crazy but I think Fuel's biggest weakness this season has been the DPS, especially Edison
not saying Bliss/MCD have been amazing but I don't think they've been that bad
Edison though has not had a good start to the season
lament blade
I feel like edison rises to the level of whatever team he’s on
If it’s generally weak then he’s not gonna carry
keen abyss
I feel like edison rises to the level of whatever team he’s on
he got so gapped by proper that despite a monumental tank and supp gap it went to 7 maps
in dallas' perfect meta
that they literally concocted
lament blade
OKAY LOOK IM COPING
ebon aurora
surely Fuel's perfect meta was JOATs
like Hanbin on the hero he's just so much better than the rest of the league on
keen abyss
surely Fuel's perfect meta was JOATs
idk they're easily the best reaper lucio team in the league
lament blade
Dallas were just insane at deathball comps
ebon aurora
ok Fielder Brig maybe not his optimal pick but still
I feel like JOATs was even more perfect for Fuel
keen abyss
yeah but genji is a hero where individual skill can push other teams over the hivemind advantage
ebon aurora
than the finals meta
lament blade
This can’t be a hot take but sp9rk1e is disgustingly overrated
keen abyss
pretty sure in scrims they were an insane joats team
by the end of the stage
that's what i heard at least
glads SS was so unfortunate i can never not bring it up
hardest strength of schedule in league history in the 2 week span where they were not top 3 in the league
they were 2-2 1-1 99-0 against fuel at one point
if ans had hit one more shot they beat fuel in their opening match
and qualify for tourney
lament blade
We don’t speak of 2022 glads
lament blade
ebon aurora
rather than Sp9rk1e
lament blade
https://tenor.com/view/future-ram-ranch-gif-18120355
Society if ans had hit that shot
keen abyss
rather than Sp9rk1e
ik they weren't at the peak of their power
but glads qualify for tourney with that win
sullen berry
the switcheroo wth
ebon aurora
true
sullen berry
keen abyss
if glads qualify for the tourney
they easily get #1 seed in the league
and would have been the undisputed at least second best team in the league that year
probably #1
and if they get more practice with joats in tourney they're more prepared for playoffs meta bc it's a very similar playstyle
maybe that part is cope though
ebon aurora
idk if Glads would've beaten Fuel in the tournament, but they'd certainly have made the final more competitive
ebon aurora
like Fuel in JOATs were nigh on unbeatable
once they got going
Zarya on Rialto is a choice
keen abyss
if i could redo one owl match it would be
either atlanta glads 2021 playoffs
or toronto glads 2022 ss
imagine if glads or dallas go to grand finals in 2021
imagine glads vs dallas in loser finals
we were robbed of so many bangers
ebon aurora
surely then you'd want to redo Fuel v Reign in 2021 playoffs?
if you want Fuel in the final
keen abyss
surely then you'd want to redo Fuel v Reign in 2021 playoffs?
fuel vs reign doesnt happen bc glads knock them out
and if glads beat shock then it's glads vs fuel in loser final
winner fights shanghai
man those all would've been hyper bangers
ebon aurora
Lige on Winston?
keen abyss
one more shock vs glads
glads vs dallas
glads/dallas vs shanghai
sullen berry
Lige on Winston?
they call em dreamers for a reason
keen abyss
2021 would've easily been the best playoffs of all time
atlanta beat them fair and square but like
man it made it for a much less entertaining playoffs
ebon aurora
last year's playoffs were pretty sick
keen abyss
shit meta
ebon aurora
even if the meta was a bit meh
keen abyss
(glads fan cope)
ebon aurora
the grand final made up for it
keen abyss
i rooted extremely hard for midison
because i knew the worst reality by far
was shock winning a third grand finals
sullen berry
that's the thing, you can't
imagine somebody in their 60's watching OWL and supporting dallas
keen abyss
2022 summer showdown gotta be the biggest blueballs of all time for a glads fan
pati's injury
being extremely close in all 4 of their losses
1 fight territory in most of them
sullen berry
shujourn
keen abyss
if pati was uninjured surely they win at least one of those
sullen berry
keen abyss
then they qualify for tournament and get a bunch of points and get #1 seed and get practice in hivemind metas and make every grand finals of the year and
weary talon
Im pretty sure piggy spent a whole minute with 0 energy
keen abyss
lament blade
Im pretty sure piggy spent a whole minute with 0 energy
That feels like the average zarya experience
ebon aurora
ngl this has been a surprisingly close match
weary talon
That feels like the average zarya experience
Zarya gameplay is either no energy or one bubble gives you 50
ebon aurora
Im pretty sure piggy spent a whole minute with 0 energy
I still maintain Zarya is one of the most well-designed heroes in the game
ebon aurora
such a unique design for a tank
lament blade
HUH
keen abyss
I still maintain Zarya is one of the most well-designed heroes in the game
idk bubbles are one of the least fun mechanics to play against in the game
so she can never be good or the game feels like shit
ebon aurora
nah bubbles are fair
keen abyss
nah bubbles are fair
fair but unfun to play against
ebon aurora
how are they unfun to play against?
weary talon
Reinhardt still remains the most fair tank in ow
lament blade
idk bubbles are one of the least fun mechanics to play against in the game
Zarya is fun-ish during a mirror but otherwise get her out of here
keen abyss
how are they unfun to play against?
fighting a dps and having them get bubbled just feels really bad
like an autolock suzu that you get punished for shooting
weary talon
Then pressure the zarya so she has to self bubble
ebon aurora
for 1 minute, that's not a bad push from Dreamers
lament blade
Same applies to lifeweavers grasp
If someone makes a braindead decision it feels unfair they get a free extended trial of life
lament blade
Guangzhou sm is S tier imo
plush grail
https://twitter.com/GZCharge/status/1664921187497984002?s=20
mf really depending on 2 shit accuracy moves
sullen berry
mf really depending on 2 shit accuracy moves
incidentally this was the shitty gen 6 meta that would resist other Xerneas users
I didn't rely on that lousy strat
weary talon
Gets spychecked , doesnt have his translocator placed somewhere and then throws it in the air and dies
ebon aurora
with EMP as well
keen abyss
https://twitter.com/GZCharge/status/1664921187497984002?s=20
+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Dreamers: 528-622 (141.5 - 166.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
plush grail
incidentally this was the shitty gen 6 meta that would resist other Xerneas user...
gen 6 did not have a meta
just spam megas
and broken shit like primals
weary talon
with EMP as well
Luckily they had support ults up
ebon aurora
yeah but still they lived through grav
weary talon
Thanks to the rally and nano
sullen berry
gen 6 did not have a meta
that's like saying goats wasn't a meta https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-ubers-193407
everybody using megas and then abandoning it at the start of gen7 was even worse
plush grail
that's like saying goats wasn't a meta https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokeco...
i love this lmao
turn 7 and already 4 mons have fainted
i love ubers ho
sullen berry
Uploaded: Nov 6, 2015
I especially love the replay system
plush grail
u playing gen 9 ?
sullen berry
nvm i still got it
sullen berry
you're kidding
plush grail
shitty ass OU council assumed it would be fine but its not
sullen berry
smogon, creating and sabotaging competitive gaming since 2004
keen abyss
imagine ur team struggling vs a tendies team
your team would have an nyxl academy season if they want back to tendies 😭
ebon aurora
this is so damn close
ebon aurora
it's looking good for them
lament blade
They’ll win OWL for sure 🥵
timid coyote
Guangzhou are close yo winning cmooon
lament blade
Piggy getting their IP addresses during the pause
plush grail
your team would have an nyxl academy season if they want back to tendies 😭
i have your ip
ebon aurora
what a performance
lament blade
LETS FUCKING GO
ebon aurora
Spark is not an unwinnable match
ebon aurora
although it is a best of 7
weary talon
O2 winning the next one as well
ebon aurora
I know the fact there's only 2 teams going to MSM from APAC sucks but honestly adding Contenders teams to OWL is such a good idea
shame it never happened sooner
the storylines are awesome
lament blade
I love when underdogs get the chance to win through merit
ebon aurora
O2 winning the next one as well
in my preds I had Fuel 3-2 in the lower bracket against O2 but that's because I didn't realise just how good O2 were - I knew they were good but pushing Infernal to 5: I have my doubts now
think I might come to regret that pred, let's see
ebon aurora
I love when underdogs get the chance to win through merit
yeah seeing Contenders teams pushing (and beating OWL) teams shows the gap is very small in a lot of cases
Do Contenders teams ever play best of 7s?
just curious if Dreamers will have ever had that lengthy a series before
pretty sure O2 will have done
lament blade
Contender teams play best of 7’s for entire tourneys sometimes
ebon aurora
ok so it's nothing new to them then
lament blade
It’s pretty standard yes
I’d argue they usually have more drawn out games
Since it’s a more even playing field
uncut drum
What is the score rn
ebon aurora
I mean it's possible, and it would be amazing
ebon aurora
yeah, Hybrid and Escort both went to 2nd attacks
and Push was barely a few metres in it
only real stomp was Dreamers taking Ilios
dreamy cave
Nice. I was rooting for dreamers
I'll have to go back n watch.
This is going to be a good close match
ebon aurora
Yeah in my pred bracket I went 3-2 Fuel but I didn't realise just how good O2 were
dreamy cave
I want a map 5... but I haven't slept and need to go to work...
slate siren
dreamy cave
I feel like probe isn't fighting as much as he should be. Just shoot. He TPs out before doing much of any damage.
weary talon
So why is fuel doing so bad didnt they win owl
dreamy cave
He's not being apart of the dive
weary talon
Still sparkle and edison are incredibly talented
Hanbin is good
Bliss too
Theres no reason in my head for whythis team should underperform like that
pallid mica
is it normal i cant pickem
ebon aurora
for a tournament, you have to do it before the tournament starts
rather than individual matches
stoic bronze
Theres no reason in my head for whythis team should underperform like that
Mcd didnt get his racist buff
ebon aurora
Hanbin is just so damn good
stoic bronze
His Winston is fine but fearless is miles better
ebon aurora
the tournament started yesteday
unique root
for like contenders are they mostly like. new players that wanna get onto a team
stoic bronze
C9
stoic bronze
for like contenders are they mostly like. new players that wanna get onto a team
No
Well yes
stoic bronze
The better ones are all pre owl players
If fuel lost hanbin they'd be even worse
Thank God hanbins on off tanks
unique root
ohhhh
ebon aurora
Hanbin's Winston isn't even that bad
but sure compared to him on off-tanks
I mean that was just a Dva masterclass
unique root
dva gameplay dva gameplay dva gameplay
crisp carbon
Seems Dallas does still have it in them
Ngl this is their best performance this season so far
ebon aurora
Yeah I'd go along with that
uncut drum
well infernal going to midseason
ebon aurora
idk, Fuel levelled up today
humble yarrow
Leveled*
ebon aurora
is it not double l?
humble yarrow
No
humble yarrow
Are you from the UK?
ebon aurora
yeah
weary talon
Wait who won
ebon aurora
Fuel
3-1
Bliss had an unreal Esperanca
you need to see his play at the end in OT
weary talon
What he do
ebon aurora
forced out an ajax
booped Opener up then melee him before he landed
also, 14 final blows for Bliss on that map
weary talon
Damn
ebon aurora
at one point he was legit deadlifting (I think AVRL said 8/11 final blows were bliss or smth crazy)
weary talon
Hanbin also stepped up
ebon aurora
yeah but that's normal, Bliss just played out of his mind to win Fuel that map
if Fuel play like they did today, they have a shot against Infernal
crisp carbon
so i guess spark and infernal will win
crisp carbon
but ngl as look as infernal is doing ok fuel wont win even at their best
ebon aurora
depends how much Infernal can force Fuel not to play off-tanks
I mean Infernal are definitely favourites but if Fuel play like today, they could make it close (maybe even a map 7)?
cobalt moss
wait wait wait what the fuck
howd dreamers won 3-1
noo gzc :(
guess we wont see gzc till summer stage :(
in the meantime. ggs o2b!!
wispy yacht
did dreamers take adderall or some shit
why are they sweeping this loser bracket
they got swept by poker face and then they were like "fuck y'all" and then they sweep dynasty, beat poker face rematch in a map 5, and then beat charge in a super convincing fashion
ebon aurora
in the meantime. ggs o2b!!
er, O2 Blast lost
ebon aurora
ag
restive forge
Dreamers go to midseason madness I believe
ebon aurora
Dreamers go to midseason madness I believe
nope. they need to beat Spark tomorrow in a bo7
stray pond
Guangzhou lost
restive forge
nope. they need to beat Spark tomorrow in a bo7
I know.
ebon aurora
same with the winner of Fuel v Infernal
restive forge
It’s winnable.
restive forge
Guangzhou lost
Yeah 3-1
ebon aurora
oh sorry you put "I believe" as in you have hope, rather than checking for facts
stray pond
To dreamers
What the fuck
Well dallas won
Where's obi wan
@sullen berry
U CHANGED UR USERNAME LMAOO
weary talon
they got swept by poker face and then they were like "fuck y'all" and then they ...
Spectra had enough
bronze vapor
guys who do u think is the 2nd best owwc team after south korea
weary talon
Team usa got super trust
north relic
Super sucks
weary talon
Hes better than Coluge for sure
restive forge
Super sucks
pipe down on americas tank
weary talon
Team usa is like 80% Toronto defiant
And i feel like Toronto lack a shotcaller tbh
They seem all over the place
restive forge
Team usa is like 80% Toronto defiant
super lenny hydron rupal ojee wins the whole thing
wispy yacht
super lenny hydron rupal ojee wins the whole thing
rupal aint even on the team bro 😭
he's a reserve meaning he isnt gonna play
wispy yacht
still
aspire and rupal got robbed
if double flex becomes meta what are they gonna do
north relic
super lenny hydron rupal ojee wins the whole thing
?
restive forge
not in my perfect and 100% real usa team.
answer to your question
(I am being delusional)
vale bison
Sus
lethal turtle
pog now spark has a free win to MM
cloud latch
surely
weary talon
Speedily over aspire is mad
placid fern
i havent been following overwatch a lot recently, are you telling me if dreamers win they go to MSI??
sullen berry
they're invited to travel to korea if they beat Hangzhou
plush grail
they're invited to travel to korea if they beat Hangzhou
your team lost
sullen berry
so yes, Midseason Madness in the cards
plush grail
to contenders team
placid fern
so yes, Midseason Madness in the cards
ty
sullen berry
he's just the toxic server guy, dw about him
he just dislikes people with the gay icon for no reason
placid fern
every server has it huh, ty lmao im p new
sullen berry
yeah it's fine, I don't take it personally
also are you earning tokens
because you should be watching the encore streams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGxlglRLolc
placid fern
if its just left on?
sullen berry
it's a separate livestream
so you to go looking for it when it appears
and you can still earn watchtime towards tokens
placid fern
ty
sullen berry
I'm gonna need it after using all mine on a bet
karmic charm
your team lost
your team is 1-24
cloud latch
your team is 1-24
get him alfie
plush grail
this is so random he was just answering my question
fuck kenobi
plush grail
he just dislikes people with the gay icon for no reason
??????
this is like sans accusing me of being transphobic all over again
uncut drum
for some reason i want ny to win
weary talon
What happened to chengdu
lament blade
They vanished into the ether
weary talon
I should probably know but why arent they playing
lament blade
The parent company that owns them went bust I think?
Or they don’t see OWL as profitable enough and just dipped
weary talon
Wow
lament blade
We’ll miss the chengdu zone 🫡
weary talon
I mean if youre going bankrupt and you have to pay a 20 million fee (right) to join a league who’s not doing that great
I can see why they quit
lament blade
I mean financially speaking esports is a terrible business investment lmfao
I’m pretty sure the company was doing poorly for other reasons as well though
rustic ermine
Time for new york to hopefully win (:
weary talon
I mean financially speaking esports is a terrible business investment lmfao
Esports are still smaller than irl sports so it makes sense
uncut drum
I mean financially speaking esports is a terrible business investment lmfao
not really
matters on the game
like lol is profitable
by a lot
val is decent
cdl is becoming better
owl is in the drain
weary talon
Hope owl will stream accros multiple platforms next season
lament blade
Honestly the youtube feed really isn’t that bad
lament blade
They shouldn’t have left twitch in the first place
weary talon
Didn’t they lose most of their sponsors bc of it
Because of the transition to YouTube
lament blade
I love how australian contenders somehow has maccers as their sponsor 💀
uncut drum
that is what i mean
lament blade
Shock are about to get steamrolled
heavy scroll
will mayhem loose against glads again?
weary talon
Jummy still good
uncut drum
dude couldnt do more
weary talon
Piggy was meh
weary talon
Yes
marsh dove
he not fuckin no moe 🔥
uncut drum
the rest of the team were not there
weary talon
Piggy was trolling
Xerneas and farway were good
Piggy just ate every storm arrow in the face
He was always low hp
heavy scroll
idk but its working for them
placid fern
fuck
weary talon
I don't understand it
Cheese comp that requires less coordination from the supports
placid fern
how is he #1
hes number 1 when hes on a heater and that heater does not last long at all in a full year
the heaters gone for the rest of the year now fs
weary talon
That’s the reason why i never considered mayhem to be top3 this season
placid fern
That’s the reason why i never considered mayhem to be top3 this season
top 2, i get it but top 3?
who do you think is 3rd
i feel tis mayhem
tribal canopy
glads
rugged quest
are you high?
if nekkra has million number of haters i am one of them. if nekkra has ten haters i am one of them. if nekkra has no haters. that means i am no more on the earth. i hate nekkra till my last breath... die hard hater of nekkra.
tribal canopy
or london
marsh dove
SHOCK THE WORLD!
heavy scroll
Vindaim not bad with Lucio
tribal canopy
its not
uncut drum
if nekkra has million number of haters i am one of them. if nekkra has ten hater...
ok who asked
placid fern
it is LMAO
heavy scroll
like he's not dying so thats already beter
rugged quest
ok who asked
you asked for it with that criminal statement
hasty hound
Shock beating mayhem
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Idk what to feel.. In the other hand mayhem loses but shock fans will be happy.. its a lose lose
heavy scroll
wait why switch of genji
placid fern
😭
hasty hound
Junbin and them spears
earnest leaf
would you look at that
graceful pewter
WHAT
heavy scroll
he a gladiator with that spear
slow lake
LMFAO JUNBIN OWNS THESE FRAUDS
weary talon
Junbin my goat
placid fern
SHOCK TOOK A MAP FROM MAYHEM?????
why are you so shocked
like
floridas def favored
but like
i'd imagine titans would also
earnest leaf
Florida are slight frauds
placid fern
no?
marsh dove
doubters silent
earnest leaf
they had an easy schedule and lost to the only good teams they faced
fast tusk
ok mayhem what are we doing here. either shock are finding there groove again mayhem are just stinking atm
placid fern
ok mayhem what are we doing here. either shock are finding there groove again ma...
both
ebon aurora
I mean, are they playing orisa because it's a good counter to ram or something?
weary talon
they had an easy schedule and lost to the only good teams they faced
Lmao
willow drum
this is a 3-1 win
earnest leaf
I mean, are they playing orisa because it's a good counter to ram or something?
I think it's that the comp can hold down space super well and it's hard to kill people in it
willow drum
for mayhem
hasty hound
but also because its funny
willow drum
but also because its funny
no
earnest leaf
ram wants to nuke someone quick but you can't nuke anyone on shock
willow drum
i dont think so
this comp is genuinely op
on control
you can't kill any shock player
hasty hound
Also funmy
rugged quest
I mean, are they playing orisa because it's a good counter to ram or something?
wouldnt say counter
hasty hound
shes the closest thing ram has to a counter
graceful pewter
and moira is for dodging emp while having a good ult
earnest leaf
also orisa has stupidly good survivability
graceful pewter
she can fade in coalesence which is huge
hasty hound
and moira is for dodging emp while having a good ult
Which i find weird cause you can hack coal
ebon aurora
yeah so I guess ram can't kill her during annihilation
hasty hound
and cancel
weary talon
The orisa comp just anchors down on point
willow drum
and cancel
no pro player is getting their coal cancelled tho
weary talon
And you have to use all your ults to get them off
hasty hound
uncut drum
SHOCK WON CONTROL
willow drum
hack is pretty easy to react i think
weary talon
Its cheese
graceful pewter
Which i find weird cause you can hack coal
just flick camera
placid fern
the orisa comp gives up some power on taking back point for an absurdly good hold
graceful pewter
they can do that
hasty hound
just flick camera
Fair
willow drum
they're running cheese comps
ebon aurora
can you run orisa anywhere else though
willow drum
can you run orisa anywhere else though
not as well
weary talon
No
ebon aurora
or is it just a control special
placid fern
why are you surprised
everybodys suprised idk why
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can you run orisa anywhere else though
nah
weary talon
Control
willow drum
its mainly a control special
weary talon
or is it just a control special
You cant anchor anywhere else
old vine
Shock 3-0
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orisa is only good in maps where you can force the tank to run through you
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otherwise you run laps around her
willow drum
otherwise you run laps around her
nah not even
even if you run laps around orisa
you cant kill the dps/supports
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how
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the convo was about wether orisa can be run well in all maps
weary talon
Maybe if youre silly you can try to run the orisa comp on hybrid A
But then you gotta swap
After you lose A
willow drum
the convo was about wether orisa can be run well in all maps
probably has to depend on the map
maps r all diff
but i imagine it works best in control
willow drum
and the success would be dwindled
placid fern
ITS OVER
willow drum
everywhere else
hasty hound
They're still doing jt
placid fern
throwing ngl
placid fern
ok
im down
if they swap
after 1st
gets capped
if theyy stay after 1st gets capped i aint with it
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hollywood 2nd point is dive or lose
placid fern
good pressure on propper
placid fern
shock was retrieving it shockingly well (haha get it)
for like
bro
SWAP
YOU BITCH
SWAP
SWAP
BRO
gg
rugged quest
oh no
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the "but i have ult" classic
placid fern
the "but i have ult" classic
it would make sense if he was like
sigma or zarya somewhat
BUT ORISA??
orisa ult isnt good
why would you tryy to use it
it doesnt make sense
mortal cipher
yeah
placid fern
certified ranked metal rank classic
marsh dove
insane suzu
placid fern
nano boost dive incoming
trust
nvm they keep nano
big
they better swap
BRO
SWAP
I SWEAR TO GOD
😭
rugged quest
im suprised they held that long
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mayhem had hg control for 2min straight but couldnt get picks
heavy scroll
did justice beat uprising
uprising won
hasty hound
uprising won
W
north relic
low skill team (shock) unable to win without counterswapping
placid fern
blades still here
i like just going in here with rally + blade
dont need nano imo
i like this
rugged quest
low skill team (shock) unable to win without counterswapping
what did they counterswap
mortal cipher
welp
spare pecan
Idk what I’m gonna do if shock win this series lowkey
mortal cipher
go insane
north relic
what did they counterswap
they must be orisa because they love her
placid fern
they shoulda swapped after payload started ngl
rugged quest
they must be orisa because they love her
how is mirroring counterswapping
weary talon
Watch shock play orisa on Gibraltar 💀
mortal cipher
oh my
mortal cipher
yeah
north relic
reaper
heavy scroll
damn
graceful pewter
hmmm it seems like moira is also easier for finn to try and stay alive
willow drum
this echo pick
karmic charm
heesang has to be the biggest fraud on mei what are these blizzards
willow drum
could be good
willow drum
heesang has to be the biggest fraud on mei what are these blizzards
youre blind
i think
if he didnt ult there
someone wouldn't have died
and then shock wouldnt have gotten 2nd tick
even if he trades it's good
dps for tank with shorter spawn
and youre not gonna run mei 2nd point either
so no need to care about throwing blizzard
rugged quest
why the fuk is junbin playing orisa and ram in hollywood 2nd point
hasty hound
hes a little silly
spare pecan
Heesang is a fraud on Mei sometimes but tht was a good blizzard
willow drum
Heesang is a fraud on Mei sometimes but tht was a good blizzard
hes prolly the best mei
in this lobby
lol
spare pecan
The lobby yea
karmic charm
thats not a high bar in this lobby tho
spare pecan
Indeed
rugged quest
this is why you run dive in 2nd point hollywood
mortal cipher
wot is Junbin doing
placid fern
IM FINE WITH SHOCK COOKING
I LIKE THE ZEN INFACT
BUT WHY
THE FUCK
IS IT STILL ORISA
😭
..
what
spare pecan
What is he doing 💀💀💀
earnest leaf
Junbin just the goat orisa idk
spare pecan
Chrorong used kitsune for that
heavy scroll
let'em cook
mortal cipher
this man
gaunt cloak
High as fuck now and Junbin bewilders me
heavy scroll
is widow still viable this point?
gaunt cloak
I never thought I'd see Orisa be ran by the SF shock and then be Good with it just for a decision to be made that stops the orisa from being used which is a fatal error
placid fern
is widow still viable this point?
for the 1st curve not so much for the 2nd curve yeah and on the final stretch where its more brawly no
gaunt cloak
Does that make sense idk my brain is melted from today 😭
gaunt cloak
for the 1st curve not so much for the 2nd curve yeah and on the final stretch wh...
I think it drpends honestly, ik you just said nvm anyway but . Sometimes widow helps the final curve A Lot but it's up to how it's being played/team comp
heavy scroll
Shock aren't doing too bad but i fear its not enough
placid fern
chat saying c9
weary talon
Nooo
placid fern
😭
hasty hound
Bruh
rugged quest
lol
slow lake
AINTNOWAY
placid fern
all i saw was him trying to sleep while going for a assasination
weary talon
did he try to sleep while
No he wasnt being juggled
rugged quest
how did it matter
it matters cuz monkey lived and killed the whole team
weary talon
Wdym primal rage gone to waste??
hasty hound
if he sleeps someone fight won probably
rugged quest
he was going for someone?
yep
mortal cipher
lol
rugged quest
it was kinda unlucky cuz someone jumped when he slept
but it still lost them the round
placid fern
rip
hasty hound
Oh wow
rugged quest
they got deleted
hasty hound
that was just decimation
balmy wolf
hi
cedar oasis
gaunt cloak
maybe it's just because I'm high now but it's so fucking funny how the shock stare at their screens blankly with the words defeat on their screen
dreamy cave
The orisa jumpscare from shock got fans depressed
rugged quest
its honestly kinda impressive how they arent getting shit on while forcing orisa
weary talon
Yeah
weary talon
its honestly kinda impressive how they arent getting shit on while forcing orisa
Its still a suboptimal tank on that map
lethal turtle
shock in shambles
gaunt cloak
Kind of sad some of the horse gameplay was some of the best tank gameplay theyve had all season
At least it's not max
weary talon
It only works on control
rugged quest
Its still a suboptimal tank on that map
probably worst tank possible