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oh yeah no uncontested
honestly could be the best support in the league in general but honestly I’ve been extremely impressed with how good Teru is playing even if it’s a lot less flashy
and as unpolished as sirmajed was I miss him
great support player
and from the looks of it Checkmate is the best Tracer, but that’s obviously a lot more open
yknow Imma be honest
they should let Proper use Sojourn more
Proper’s Tracer is incredible obviously but his Sojourn is just next level compared to the rest of the league, it’s hardly even close
mmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmmmmm
idk if it's worth taking him off tracer
like unless we go back to double flex dps of course
or rather
double non-br*tish flex
i think they need to nerf jq
you get ult a little toooo quick
i can already see the tweets when this gets into owl
in fact, teams in general need to embrace their identity more
like
take the Spitfire, for example
they have one comp that they’re really good at, that being Rein
but they rarely run it and it holds them back a lot since they’re not really quite as good at most other comps
they need to adapt it, not forsake it
lip better
I honestly don’t really like the whole “main dps/flex dps” concept
DPS heroes are, for the most part, designed to check certain styles like Torb checking dive and Sombra checking. well. pretty much everything lol
there are very few dps you can actually build an offense around
not after last year’s grands
there are very few dps you can actually build an offense around and tracer is one of them
sombra also currently happens to be the other one
we see sombra tracer
precisely why Sombra needs a rework
also I feel like you don’t build around Tracer so much as just slap her on another composition because she’s basically if Melee Fox could kill you at 0 once per stock
you think that lip is a worse hs than proper
I think he’s on a similar level for Sojourn specifically but Proper’s Sojourn ABSOLUTELY clears
Lip is an incredible all-around dps and the best Tracer, but NOT the best Sojourn
btw hot take
they should make Tracer Pulse Bomb cost more
it’s an incredibly strong tool and a nerf that increases the difficulty of the hero is interesting since it would be directed at top level
lip is not the best tracer
wtf
wait does Lip not play Tracer anymore?
doesn’t he play a lot of Sombra too?
am I going crazy?
I think I’m going crazy but he definitely played Sombra at some point
also if Lip isn’t a Tracer player my pick for best Tracer is probably Profit
very close though
lip never plays tracer he is hs
he plays sombra cause he is the best at it in the whole world
proper is not better at lip than hs
pal
Did you watch the shanghai shock match
if you think that then you are braindead
also lip played tracer
And absolutely fucked
I specifically remember 2021 stage 1 grand finals
Lijiang and eichenwalde
lip was 1v5ing
Top two tracers are kevster proper saying anyone else though is just insane
you have it backwards proper is the better tracer lip is the better soj
Sombra is hs....
fair
I still think that Proper can be the best Sojourn
so is Tracer but flankers don’t really count
I want you to watch shock vs dragons last playoffs
And see what lip did
wont happen
Edison clears that fraud
Isn’t that guy like 0-4
yes
My team has more wins than yours uvalo
proper can never beat the 8 Foot 9 Gaming Warlord on Sojourn
he quite literally did
also @north relic I’m watching the set and in the first part of lijiang lip has done nothing and proper single-handedly win fights
First part
I immediately rebuke my statement Lip just destroyed Proper’s soul
Eichenwalde defense was when I immediately changed my name
he hit one crazy shot that defense
playing great, but the shots Proper hit in grands were just otherworldly
Izayaki kinda going off though
bro has been on fire the whole set
lip is the best jimmy is second shy is third proper is 4th
I’ll take Shy actually
Shy is fair
Jimmy I haven’t watched enough of to actually say anything
or Lip tbh
this picture changes my opinion on Jimmy entirely
I now believe he is the best dps in OWL
too much ice in his veins
That's crazy
Your team also has had more team rebuilds
you are 0-4
You are 14
yes grandpa
Do your homework
Mf i can snap u in half
U sound like sans
I wish I did
Hope u dont look like him too
I’m not close at all to his appearance though
Pretty sure u have the same physique
When is next overwatch league match?
Now!
How many hours left?
They work well together
Okay
and as for the players it makes their life easier as they only need to focus on a specific style of aiming
Not always the case but most of the time it is
She’s not
She’s a fdps but since some fdps are better at tracer than hitscans, hitscans are forced onto sombra
There is an app for the schedule
OW league
How is sombra not hs
- She’s used by flex dps players
U get what I mean tho
widow does
OKOK I GET IT
Mostly hs imo
heesu lip are the only good Sombras ever tbh
and fits
all hs
I reject
Sombra is like exclusively played with tracer
And most of the times the fdps is better at tracer than hitscan
My bad
Guess we ignoring s2
You know
The season that sombra was first meta
But yea
technically she is, she just isn’t long-range
same with Tracer
like
with your definition of hitscan, is Hanzo hitscan?
I thought we were of the thought that hitscan characters are meant to check mobile projectile characters, can play in the frontlines and have overwhelming damage threat to tanks
but aren't flankers
well I shouldn't say frontline cause there's no need to do that
high ground instead
which makes it ashe cole soldier widow
I forgot to add in the hitscan bullet part but that's obvious
that is the main part
hitscan characters use hitscan bullets
the "hard hitscan" characters are usually those 4 above
hanzo and the journ are played similarly but usually by flex dps players if i'm not tripping
i still have no clue whether we're talking about the abstract role or the actual definition
cause it started with sombra who might as well be a melee flanker
why not just call them zoners?
Because at that point zen is a zoner
Proper is literally overwatch
just like me fr
lore accurate tracer
trying to think about what happens when a person actually gets stuck with a pulse bomb
lore wise
they better stand still
or they're throwing the game
lore wise of course
fixa has 8.9k
he is not that good
no
First of all it’s a really small sample size
Second stalker has .15 less pulse kills with a 50% less stick rate
HMU if you in the dallas area
yes
the most important thing to remember when talking about stats is that they lack context
regardless, though, as far as we know, Proper is goated with Pulse Bomb
which does make sense
he’s also good at Sojourn who has a very similar gameplay loop
and requires similar mechanics
that is a point
the only pulse stat that matters is kills
we dont know what he stuck
he could stick a tank every time which is fine but that doesnt mean that is a kill
Proper leads that stat too
again small sample size
yeah
neither of us are making valid points rn bro
We always look to keep OWL balance as close to the live game as we can, but given that there won't be sufficient time to transition OWL to Season 5 for Midseason Madness nor a fair way to match the live game with Season 4 midcycle, we determined the best option for all parties is…
Remember when everyone was playing doom and all poopah did was stick a doom coming out of ult
And the fucking shock clowns went crazy
Bro
yea
Like he gets a cleanup 2k
And they go crazy
He sticks a doom coming out of ult "INSANE BEST TRACER???!!!"
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
fuel fans are fucked
lol
nice
izayaki back ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@stray pond your team might be fucked
whole ass lung collapsed though what’s the recovery time for that
not that long considering peli played pretty fast after his lung collapsed
what is with overwatch players and collapsed lungs
wasn’t there another player
I can’t remember the name
nvm I was thinking of a league player
In March, LuxuryWatch Blue Overwatch player Song “Janus” Jun-hwa was rushed to the hospital with a collapsed lung, and had to miss his team’s last match in season two of OGN’s big APEX tournament. Ultimately, he recovered and went on to play in season three. The incident was alarming—and yet not the most harrowing example.
2017
what is wrong with their lungs😭😭😭
very common in the esports area
So ATL stays abusing sombra
hanbin fans crying
VEGAS STAYS WINNING
We don't need injuries to lose
WE LOSE 3-0 WITHOUT A COLLAPSED LUNG
thoughts on reign vs outlaws?
both are undefeated
Racism exists. Bigotry exists. This is why minorities still don't feel comfortable doing something as simple as playing video games
Despite this rant + the n word in team chat, this guy was in my lobbies all night. Blizzard's refusal to ban/act on this stuff is disgusting
1/5
4734
442
wow wtf
Why isn’t alien Zarya a thing anymore?
you dont know
lets just say it was a big think
the player who the skin was for did sa
so they where like nope
and removed it
something assault
South America
South Africa
The Sturmabteilung
Sa abbreviation is pretty common bro
fair
Best coach in the owl
sinatraa??
Yeah
He who shall never be spoken
When owl is back on
Yup
Ya matches start Friday through Sunday
he is disabled on the live rn
They are not playing the new patch so nothing changes
Dallas and Toronto fans are boomed
oh cool
reminds me of the Vikings and how they do the same thing
is it true that lip left the east because he is scared of jimmy
is it true that Rodgers left the Packers because he’s scared of Justin Jefferson?
same statement applies with the packers statement too
I asked ChatGPT who was the best tank of all time in the Overwatch League:
yeah and now he should be scared of diggs + tyreek
Chatgpt isn’t updated
But I’m pretty sure it’ll get that feature real soon
chatgpt spitting out stupid bullshit once again
bro just has to fear a different Minnesota receiver now 😭
let's gooooo we know more about overwatch league than an ai 🥹
what typa predictions yall got this week
Reminder this has only up to 2020
So goats and season 1
Outlaws over reign
Idk abt all that
hold on
Holding
upholding
Outlaws 3-1 Reign
I see reign getting a map if lip's allowed to play a sniper
other than that Shu Viol2t clearing
you're crazy lol
wait till you're proven wrong mr titans fan
?
is there a pick em leaderboard for this server?
no
they're playing awful rn
ojee can't seem to live
uv is ok
prob would be better if his ms was alive for a fight
it's okay though
nohill will whip them into shape
#NOHILLSZN
uv is pretty good yeah
Also its so hard to stay alive against tracer sombra
Backlines just get constantly solo emp’d
their last game I think they didn't play vs sombra once
-1 for next owl streams 
is the website down rn? im trying to put my stuff in but the website just dies
literally wont let me log in, website keeps crashing
ngl this weeks matches are mid
Except outlaws and reign
maybe charge vs infernal too
no stream today?
tmr
oh mb time zone fucked me up
danteh
damn, chatgpt is pretty darn based lmao
florida is gonna take ngl
What are you guys betting for shanghai and dallas
Bruh getting called by the Vancouver titans or something
I think Shanghai has won already once
they need a flex support
I will happily take a 38 hour drive to be part of a league team
I’m better then halo at least
there are gold console players
In Vegas?
i can understand it but betting against Reign is very risky
is new patch being played on owl?
Looks horrendous
selling a burger with no honey mustard
should I buy the boston uprising hoodie…
no buy the vancouver titans hoodie instead
Who wins dallas vs shanghai??
yeah
Jeez man
a classic maneuver ever since LIP got value from a missed EMP
but then there's just... those
it did get profit
but no follow through
Krillen has been doing God's work on brig. But please I need spark to win
Profit is literally 1v2 vs Spark DPS with this Sombra disasterclass PH is dropping
do i get points from this
life points?
owl points
from watching after connecting account, ye,
Spark getting cooked
Was just about to comment on Hangzhou's comp being off-beat
After which they immediately switched
Damn, Mmonk got literally run down and mugged
GG
I have 3-0 spark
Bastion
lol
Profit getting cooked on Mei
This a good game
C9
c9
I just said it was a good game
Bruh
spark ruining pickems
ARE YOU FR
What a way to end an absolute banger map
Devastating
So much more could have happened lmao
I think it’s been an hour I haven’t got tokens
If they chose rein and not winton I think they would have won
Make sure you see the "connected" next to the like counter and share button
Besides that it takes a few hours for tokens to come in
Yeah, I'm with AVRL on that one. It was confusing how they swapped off Rein at the start when they dominated in that exact match up in the previous attack
Guxue winston god damn
They don't call it the Primal Blade for him for nothing
idk man ive been watching for 1h30 and still no tokens
Yeah Shy ain't doing too hot on this map
GG though
Gg Spark just better
If Prophet could've charged the Overclock before Void died, Dynasty probably could've won that
Pick ‘em was correct as well
There may be a delay before you get the tokens
Sometimes i needed to wait 2 days
Nah it works perfectly fine for me
bro ive usually had to wait like 10 minutes
No, not this one, last one, however i waited one day like 3 hours after the series ended this season
Twitch or yt?
they don't stream owl on twitch
ah
Refresh the yt page maybe
possible that a huge delay doesnt gift you it
nah im on live
im doing everything the same as all the previous streams as you'd expect, there is no error here on my end
I didn’t see the connected button but I left and joined back and saw the connected button
It's zhouver
was it a roadroller or kinda close?
i believe in hanbin
he will be motivated reading the patch notes
I'd say it was... not great coming from Seoul
ic
but the void looking better than belosrea on tank
holy shit you pulled a message from 8 months ago O_O
you actually responded
i knew you'd care if the meta was "play whatever you want"
time for lower budget 2021 finals
Alternative title: Through the fire and the flames 

same
heesu gotta be diffing edison
peak viper is something you can't underestimate though
true
its kind of crazy how much the meta has changed since end of 2022
like the 2021 and 2022 Grand Champions are considered the toiletbowl of apac rn
thats crazy
COME ON DALLAS
Seoul?
dont forget them
COME ON DALLAS
this mans life is on the line
god sparkles photo is cringe asf
retake plz
LETS GO SHD
cant play dive without a good main tank
tf you on about
fleta a good main tank? lol
i am talking about dallas
this is a shitshow of tanks
Viper is cooking
WHAT THEW FUCK MCD
WHAT DO U
THINK U R
thinks hes fucking dps
good ult
good ult
niceee
Give Viper teammates
What happened to Dallas they won the last owl now they suck
Their support line left
and their maintank
is that even a question
ok
nice
nice
maybe @sterile aspen doesn't have to die
cant afford facecams lmao
hanbin looking good
listen, i still believe
a win plz
Time for Viper masterclass for Shanghai 3-1
lol
no winton plz
lets go viper
NO WINTON
VIPERRR
ah
?
lets go
no more winton
3-1 dragons
3-1 Dragons ez dub
I have 1-3 dragons win
nooooooooooooooooooo
i still have hope
Dragons flopped so hard. Completely collapsed on defense
lets go shd
I BELIEVED IN MY TEAMMMM
U FUCKERS
U FUCKERS DIDINT BET ON UR OWN TEAMM
I DID
I BELIEVED
Imagine losing to Dallas
U DIDINT EVEN BET ON UR OWN TEAM
U PUSSY
I DID
I BELIEVED
SHD WIN!!!
i put 3-2 shd
we can beat dynasty too
Dynasty will cook Fuel for breakfast
I don’t pop off in match chat
i mean what do u have to pop off about?
what one match against defiant?
and that free match agasint vegas
hm
last fite
pulse
cmon
no no no
staggered
no non o
PULSE
damnnn
well pretty close
apac toiletbowl??
what can you talk about then fuel has done shit every match they have played even nyxl is doing better
nyxl better blue team
You don’t need much apparently if you can against the shanghai dragons
what were the rumours? dallas switched to apac to keep certain players like sparkle and hanbin right?
yeah
well that is the theory
as they said they want to do it for player health and mental wellness
this sucks for long term dallas
they moved operations to apac
only for their team to be ass
unless dallas goes on a winning streak from now on
i dont see them keeping this roster
gg
dallas is not the worst team in apac 
For now
oh boy idk a win?
Tf you mean 2nd...
no shot u guys won 1 game
go clock in for ur mcdonalds shift
the entire seasobn
?
How did you get a phone and Internet in prison
LETS GO DALLAS
Not worst in apac
yeah w
unlike this false SHD fan here @sterile aspen
i atucally bet on my team'
no matter how stacked the odds r
not for dynasty
i bet on fuel
for
every
single
match
well we won
a w
what else
nyxl also has a win
agasint LA
a team fresh out of contenders
we beat a team who beat dynasty
and i would say it
but im not that petty
ayyy its edison
you md is still so high
?
shd is equally as shit
As valiant
shanghai has fleta tank
and four flex supports
they won agasint dynasty
also what the fuck
cuddling?
what
bro is using the transitive property
Fuel over dynasty? Or is that risky
no clue tbh
Apac preds get harder every series
Yea but how do u pred Dallas/Seoul games
Dynasty lost to dragons and Dallas but beat infernal
Infernal beat dragons and Dallas but lost to dynasty
😭
Pred dallas winning
do you guys know if we still get tokens from watching the owl streams in week 3?
U get tokens indefinetely
Whenever the season is on
Pro-am is preseason hence why u didn’t get tokens
But season is on now
According to avast, u would use vibes
Wait wtf
I predded fuel today
people rely too much on logic for preds
one day choisehwan visited me in a dream so I predded him vs spark
you just need to trust your visions
exactly
Another valid strat is predding opposite of BP
The reason outlaws winning today
did Dallas fucking win
Yes
with the echo buff this man is a menace
is everyone using JQ in that league rn?
Free nitro giveaway from STEAM here:
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REAL 😱
we fucking won
idkkkk
amazing
staff
can i ping?
maybe a 3-2
can we
they're muted but Idk why it's not deleted
can we ban this man?
he alr got muted
in vc
so like
can we hit him
hit him with the banhammer
modsssssssssssssssssssssssssss
mod
this dudes annoying
this man here
bruh i cant even enter the site
epic bruh moment
why would you click it
nope
hope he's okay
hm
thanks
what happened to heesang?
?
nvm
that does not help a lot
i got u confused u with another fixafan
eh if their on discord sending links i doubt their smart enough to figure out how to send a virus thru a link direct
yeah lol
?
Cuz she’s good
fixa is a better player
than heesang
it is the truth
ic
you should join
a banger match against uprising
he is the greatest player to ever grace the game by his touch
titans are goats
Titans suck
i watched the stream this morning and i didn't get any tokens -_-
fixa is on another level
I think he manually calculates ult charge based on healing/dmg done in a team fight
I know most pros can track ult charge accurately but it’s just impressive👍👍👍👍
another reason why fixa is goated
preach my good man
glad someone else has always been a believer
in the Goatcouver Titans
Were the apac matches good?
no
Atleast spark dynasty wasn’t
it was ight
Spark threw one defense allowing dynasty to win a map
Also
Anyone know what’s going on for next week
heard someone say it’s the apac pro am
an update on today's match:
MaltheL had an internet outage this morning and could not fix the issue in time. We asked the league to delay our match time but our request was denied. Therefore, we will be playing with Avalla as support and Lukemino as DPS.
1/2
I streamed all of the OWL spring stage qualifier | Week 3 | Day 1 - East stream earlier and didn't receive any coins. Are we not eligible for the east coins if we're from the US?
sometimes its jsut delayed
6 player minimum 🔥 🔥
lukemino dps probably better than malthel ngl
maybe they’ll do better💀💀💀
they get swept either way 💀
poverty org
preds on outlaws vs atlanta?
for sure, I've had it happen before but this season it seems like I was getting the coins immediately. Guess I play the waiting game now
@plush grail @plush grail @plush grail
not like it would make a change but aint no way theyy didnt change it
tuff
the way they're handling this is so awkward
like
the way the desk
is defending it
its fine
but like
theres no reason to comment
on it lol
How long d'you think
if london dont choke they have chances
those walls are annoying me backbone
Avalla hasnt even played a single scrim lmaoo
This’ll be fun
why is avalla playing
MTD
ah i saw the update nvrmind
honestly it wouldve been funnier if they benched him for a support player
main team difference
never had a doubt his supports wouldnt keep him up
why do hadi and sacy look identical
wtf
I know golds that can beat dove with their monitors off
search up sacy fr
and tell me
am i wrong
lmao he does look the same
no you don’t.
Dove my king
1st map 8mins
My goat
Nooo
Yh they might get 7 total kills this time over 5!
Nvm internets died again
pain
wait they dont play in a facility?
lol i thought all that money has to go somewhere
what money😭
Yeah, owners pockets
i thought they have money lol
thats sadly true
ive only heard them called poverty franchise idk
Does this time go for my token time?
Not sure, wish it did
If it’s only games that’s dumb
Told ya
ouch
I remember that torb 1v1
Who
Kings row oh deary me. This bout to be a 2 min game
cause the league fucked up massively
avalla their general manager is playing
Run the team
so shes nt even like decent?
prob gm
Not sure tbh
Faster then the mayhem one?
yes
Idk
hadi not on rein idk now
And they on defense so I doubt
@plush grail nice new signing
winnable
this is so funny
They going to bring out halo?
i heard shes like masters lmao
I have no idea how true that is tho
lol
They need to change to good comp
38 mins on kiri and shes cooking landon holy
i pred 3-0 if london cant 3-0 vegas i might put them below ny
Um had a personal emergency so wasn't able to even play OW for a whole week. Truly unfortunate situation but you gotta do what the team needs you to do. Terrifying playing OWL when I havent even done a single scrim. Wish me luck. I need it 😭😭
398
no scrims either
i take her over landon
Is the eternal spitfire match done
no
Wtf how
but london is playing so brainless
london turned their brain off
@plush grail congrats
Is Vegas winning?
maybe
This is winnable
Avalla about to carry them
CMON VEGAS
so why is Avalla in?
GET UR FIRST MAP!!!!!
malthel issues
power outage
an update on today's match:
MaltheL had an internet outage this morning and could not fix the issue in time. We asked the league to delay our match time but our request was denied. Therefore, we will be playing with Avalla as support and Lukemino as DPS.
1/2
993
and no scrims
Um had a personal emergency so wasn't able to even play OW for a whole week. Truly unfortunate situation but you gotta do what the team needs you to do. Terrifying playing OWL when I havent even done a single scrim. Wish me luck. I need it 😭😭
398

Who needs scrim she's GM and it shows
yes 🙂
Vegas only win
Lukemino dps and avalla support insane
that was too close for comfort
God damn for 0-2 that far exceeded my expectations
We're one away for my pickems 3-0
I pray for the 1-3
ChrisTFer must be malding rn
that was close
im still on the one map copium
Before Midseason refresh too, nice
for vegas
This will be the map to decide her fate
Can we expect AVALLA to play ever again, probably not
vegas reverse sweep 💯
3-1 incoming


