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Jimmy
A walk in the park for my goat Jimmy
3-0 as well
Ikr
inspirational af
Tru
proof that outside activities affects ingame performance
Yeah
I don't believe it's the same person
WHAT
losing 65kg will change ur entire look
didn't expect the gameplay to level up at the same time as his weightloss
proud of my man piggy
Jimmy insane
I really liked his sigma when he was in outlaws
Charge haven't even lost a map
Piggy and jimmy were great
Raid Boss Charge
Rip hangzhou
Not yet
+9 map diff
that nano onto baby dva was goated
just so im sure, what is the next stream?
improve physical health= improved mental health = better enjoyment in gaming
Charge have the clutch factor
this is like Titans season 2-level results
So many big plays
don't forget the herbalife diff
lol true
i dont think there are any more games this week
wow crazy night
that was the last one
cant wait to see which contenders team will make it into OWL
if its only for one tourney
i should become a body builder so i can become number one esports player (it wont make a difference and i will die to a mercy)
Wow
JIMMY SWEEP
Charge really went from can't win a map vs Spark to can't lose a map
They just went and pounded
I just wanna see what farway's POV was like when he decided to nano baby dva
clearly just a OWL skill play that our small brains could never understand
is it done
happy happy day @sullen berry
yknow what
I wanna start a discussion
what do you guys think about how OWL teams think about teambuilding?
like
about the meta ?
if they’re like me they probably find it annoying
cant be fun getting hacked then cooked in .5 seconds
like
how they build comps
how they think of hero selection
I wonder what they value more
like
the Spitfire, for example, EXTREMELY cautious about using their signature Reinhardt composition because they feel there aren’t enough opportunities to use him, and yet at the same time, they tend to not do very well without him, so why not just do the thing they’re best at and learn the bad matchups
i should have been more faithful
it looks like apac has a circle of suck once again
dynasty 3-2 infernal 3-0 dragons 3-1 dynasty
just like the NFL
this was very much the approach last year
however
there are just metas where it is obvious how easy it is to exploit rein's weaknesses
like even if you think, oh we can just run so and so into this composition and if they don't have an overwhelming positional advantage then with some good play we can make it work
monkey metas on more open maps are the pinnacle of this
Ana brig with sightlines
tracer sombra
monkey
if anyone and I mean anyone gets hacked, they either force immo field and healing resources which is a good trade
or they die and the rush loses value
this is why rein is actually almost favored on control center
because corridors enable the Mei and reaper, and allow for greater clump to amplify bap's effectiveness
heck
even last year in what you THINK would be a good rein meta (jrush)
it is so easy to exploit the character's lack of consistent poke
jqueen actually bullies the heck out of rein if she gets even a modicum of healing
monkey avoids him and kites, orisa doesn't care about him, ram walks through him, so on and so forth
rein is what I'd call a bad good hero
great design and gameplay flow
extremely exploitable in practice
I'm still going on because this is a huge iceberglike topic
But take for example how certain teams valued the ashe over the sojourn in the summer showdown last year
Toronto being the most notable
every other team ran sojourn simply because the character at that time was busted
can't recall if she still had slow but point still stands
some teams though opted for the ashe and it was probably for both comfort and the fact that ashe can still fulfill deadly midrange hitscan
ashe gets virtually free dynamites whenever a fight is happening, whilst sojourn had the potential to one tap someone
if you're playing merit or lip
you're gonna play the one tap character because the mere threat of being one shot is stupid in this game and on players like those it can force value out of the opposite team simply by existing which is one of the best things a dps can do
heesu is that guy sometimes but the ult differential is also important
the problem is that sojourn was just objectively the better character so it almost seemed like you were gimping yourself playing ashe
like ashe CAN 2 tap at mid without needing to charge but sojourn still had headshot charge and bloom that wasn't the size of torb's head so she could still actually charge rail shots extremely quickly
and ashe does have Bob who makes the midfight extremely annoying and usually forces repositioning or point pressure if played well
but overclock can just kill the entire team
the one advantage ashe had was being a more deadly threat on high ground slightly out of sojourn's kill something range
but it gets outvalued by 6 second slide
Do you ever look at something you wrote and think fuck I'm lame
Wtf
overwatch players when I discuss esports in esports discussion
my bad
did not throw in enough misogyny, slightly racist remarks or swear words to make it worthy of this place
Can someone help me understand owl comps. I fully get poke dive rush comps. But sometimes they mix and match and I don’t understand the purpose. Like glads ran queen lucio kiri which makes sense for brawl. But then they ran tracer sombra duo with it which is more normal for dive. Mayhem ran ram who is brawl but did not run any lucio. Instead they went ana kiri
i think it was interesting
I feel like it comes down to how Blizzard does hero design
they need to stop focusing on heroes of themselves and more of what type of composition they can fit into
Does ram not need the lucio as much as rein? Bc he has built in speed?
How many teams haven’t lost a map
Nah he needs lucio
It’s outlaws reign and charge left right
charge?
yea i think so
Charge have 3-0ed 3 teams so far
dang
PIGGY DOMINATION
depends on the map
They keep running him in the league without a lucio
ram is finally being understood enough to the point where you don't need to lucio bap your way through everything
think about him defensively for a second
he has a 1000 hp shield for 4 seconds so that's virtually just 4 seconds of not getting hit if used well
When
he’s so good because he can play a poke style OR rush
The glads runner lucio with ram every time
an 8 second phase shift in which he gains 225 ARMOR and can block damage from the front
Mayhem did it like 4x
Idk why Florida didn’t
an ultimate that does not care simply
They prob just believed in the Kiriko
you disengage from annihilation 99% of the time
and piercing 60 damage hits
there isn't a tank i think who currently like
"counters" ram
have you SEEN Colluge’s play on that character?
at least is what I would say if monkey wasn't wild
Don’t remember
Also why do teams often run sombra tracer with queen.
Colluge’s Kiriko is INCREDIBLE
Queen seems like brawl to me
self sustaining dps tank
queen is a hybrid between brawl and dive
this is my personal opinion but queen contests the DPS who do not dump out damage
she beats most of them
obviously does jack against hitscan high ground
but like genji hates her
No
queen can also catch tracer by surprise being one of the two shotgun tanks
shout should not be an engage tool
which is exactly why you run flankers
the flankers contest the long range damage dumpers
queen is played when the tank does not want to care about the team
because the team cares about themselves
tracer sombra requires literally 0 resources from the tank or the supports the majority of the time
now you can run winston with ana and X support but that's probably why people run the queen
Why not play ball with this?
people do
people also run queen cuz she makes Winston hard
but if they match tracer sombra
to play
ball gets farmed
also i think there's a ball drought rn anyways
Queen shout keeps herself alive is the thought process?
mostly yes
and Sombra is broken due to her insane risk/reward
no reason to use it unless a support is literally 1hp
imagine having to fight against a dps tank with a 200 hp burst heal and decent midrange with a oneshot combo
now imagine that
but slim
she's just better hog
What is the win condition then for that team
tracer sombra kill supports
honestly
not sure if this is a hot take
there should be a timer for translocator to despawn
queen kill whatever tries to kill her (monkey)
supports don't die
basically under any circumstance
if tracer sombra can kill the flex support most of the time
as long as queen doesn't get blown up and the supports don't either
you can win the fight
(this is how most OW2 fights go)
queen also makes it difficult for non ana supports to play ground
So queen and supports play together and stay alive with shout also queen pretty good at fighting dive. And u just pray tracer and sombra kill something
it is tracer sombra so it's more inevitable than anything
depending on the rank of course
I don’t see ppl doing this in ranked. Even high ranked ppl. Almost all GM understand the 3 signature comps and who goes well with it but I don’t feel as if most GM understand these hybrid ones and the goals
queen is an aim checker because she's got like
700 hp effectively but it's stacked on a slim model
I’m trying myself to know how it works better
well it can also be personal preference from the teams themselves and what they've practiced
my gm games usually consist of some actual compositions but it's typically just whatever everyone is good on and adapting to this
although if i do have a tracer sombra dps line and i don't feel like babying people with dva i'll go queen
Considering GM doesn’t allow more than 2 stack sadly I don’t really get actual team comps a lot
Usually yeah just whatever ppl good at
GM is very much not an accurate depictor of the meta unless you get lucky
I honestly find ball dive to be pretty easy. I just do my thing and calll out who I’m focusing
especially after the inflation of sr and things
Getting a team to play around tank is hard enough.
Poke maps are easy. I feel like poke is one of easiest comps to run
I usually get everyone on board
Most tank players are well enough at sig
play sigma ram
press buttons
hope dps or sniper kills something
peel if necessary
rinse and repeat
that's about every circuit game
queen isn't a dive tank because her mobility if you can even call it that is on a 14 second CD and lasts for 5 seconds and she is still grounded
there is no multi-angle collapse unless the queen is already flanking
brawl or rush is more accurate because her kit is designed to drag things out
especially with the axe buff
My and squad tried running typical rush with queen in scrims. Like lucio kiri queen reaper
But idk if that’s ideal looking at owl
It’s easier to play
kiri over brig is currently the wave yes
Queen doesn’t need bap really. Kiri is enough sustain and rush is nuts
generally i don't think the majority of people know how to counteract a rush comp played well without mirroring or playing pharmercy
I like playing ball dive. It depends on map. We try to surround the rush and pick the apart/ pull them in many directions
Like ball sombra pharmacy team comp
Kiri as well
yeah those are the compositions which put it in the ground
if there are no accessible targets then the group just waffles around
if they play point they often give up positional advantage
and pharmercy is a real set of characters
Also some ppl we faced didn’t have a brain. This team tried playing rush vs us on Hollywood. I really feel it’s an ass map for it. We just camped high ground
Lmao
Also why is dva almost always run with Echo mercy ? I feel in owl it seems certain maps are just really good for echo and dva can contest enemy echo as well as peel for you own
Overheard in Spark locker room after map 3:
“He got me,” Shy said of Jimmy's diff over him. "That f***ing Jimmy boomed me."
Shy added, “He’s so good,” repeating it four times.
Shy then said he wanted to add Jimmy to the list of players he works out with this summer
Is dva just the way to go with a lot of high ground maps like illios light house and dorado. What is the reasoning for running dva vs Winston on dive maps
From what I have seen to seems to be high ground focused maps where tracer would have a hard time following a Winston
Jimmy is special
monkey has an easier time killing a target out of position
also has piercing, AoE and a better ult
and bubble is dumb
if someone is out of position monkey presses the leap button and does 50 to them if he lands right there
whoever that is is usually forced to relocate or dies
(it's usually a dps)
primal blade as people like to call it is one of the best tank ultimates
because against non zen teams you can use it to force a support or immobile tank or dps out of a position or just straight up kill them
against zen teams you int onto the zen and then hope he dies before you do and then run away
dva ultimate is like
75% of the time you make the entire team LoS you, getting no kills, and the other 25% of the time they just kill you
the non existent percentage is you getting a kill and surviving
other than that she's a pretty good character because matrix is insanely valuable on both defense and offense
supports getting dove
I'll matrix them and then booster into the attacker
dva is probably the 2nd (?) most common tank right now and it's because a dva played correctly really annoys a winston
you're not going to outdamage her at your effective range
jumping in haphazardly gets a booster to the face
your mid range may now exist but sucks comparatively
and she has armor meaning you deal even less damage
however the character is like
playing with eyes in the back of your mind
Winton jump zap bubble nap
dva is a mix between babying your supports and knowing when to go aggressive to take space with your dps
honestly if the high ground is accessible tracer is a playable character
even if it isn't
she still is because she's that good
how many points is everyone on
72
ez 3-0
No they used there power on mayhem I don’t think they going to do much from now on
im also a glads hater but idk its hard not to give them the 3-2
And the rein is the second best team
whos better rn
U could also say the opposite where they are really hot rn and could upset
Mayhem best team
we will see next week

Defiant sweeps this
2-1

?
Cant be the best if u lose games lol
Don't ? Me
no way defiant even get 2 maps
They get 5 maps

i forgot in my preds i gave glads 1-3 against reign forgot to change it after last night
now its locked

pharmercy is crazay
the spirit remains
trust
mayhem is pissed they lost to gladsss
They are releasing their anger on weaker team
if team usa lose this match then you would be worried just a bit
Is Toronto mostly team usa?
glads vs reign decides #1 in NA right?
Wrong
That would be infernal vs charge
god your ego must be popping
god I can't wait to get just one map win against a chinese superteam
what teem
yes
Toronto the most mid-team this year again?
3-0 incoming
oh lmao
💀
i thought bro ment the map
ojee ints harder than a plat moira
cant wait for the coluge ''gg we suck'' pity party tweet
he not wrong
Imma start playing tracer again because of checkmate
i’d be fucking depressed too though if one of your supports just perma dead and you yourself just cannot live
every
game
i never touch dive chars
he really does lol
?
CHECK HIS PC
Chorong insane
What the actual fuck
lmao
Chorong is him
interesting
mfs really thought they would stomp owl
now they get to prove it
and they suck ASS
Letter
Midfiant
team usa is screwed
someone tell Speedily that looking at the point really hard doesn't contest it
Should have signed danteh to team USA
even super cant help this
Super and sugarfree can carry surely
agreed
just give the trophy to korea alr
which top tier koreans did they sign this year
Hanbin lip sparkle fielder chiyo finn
And Dallas fuel (last year
Lip
lip feilder chiyo hanbin sparkle
And fearless
funny how hanbin sparkle are prolly gonna be the weak links
what would be the ideal team UK?
fearless hanbin sparkle lip fielder chiyo Finn
I don’t like the sparkle pick
Although I would change fearless for smurf
korea, china, some eu team, maybe usa, uk
Proper should have been on there
that is what will happen
pelican over sparkle
Boosting
Idc
agreed
i dont like the fuel pick
they had better picks
smurf
It doesn’t affect the World Cup
profit
is there even enough UK players for a team with subs? I know like three
Just pick proper
twilight#
Yes bruh
Fraudfit
Who cares if he boosted
hopefully super carries team USA
It’s not just owl
anyone else by fuel
so far this season yes
he has been bad
also why is rush even coach
i guess, you'd ideally have lots of OWL players though
lip pelican wouldve been a crazy dup
crusty would have been a better pick
i mean sure but there arent gonna be owl players for all countries
Real
90% of owl players are korean
ksaa, kai, fastro, false, reiner
astro, backbone, reiner were the ones i knew
this is not it
do people actually think reiner is uk
oh and I found out that kai was british, but i had forgot him
he isnt? nvm then lol
mayhem jersey kinda goes hard
how about chipsa
`how about my fe
Chipsa the 100% winrate in owl
he played for Philly as Doom
why's he a meme tho?
Vancouver needs another tank
hes a doom specialist
Ian what did you teach fixa
only plays doom and he played one map during the whole season
he won it but he did some goopers
he fell a few
fixa leaking his opponents' IP adresses
that's an interesting thing he does tho
If they're really damage numbers, none of them above 100 LOL
Titans about to win this
Not the Drip
it's ult percentage predicted i think
That's kinda big brain for support
arent those numbers %
prob like an estimated ult charge for tank:dps1:dps2:support1:support2
decay blade
lol
My schools esports team is one game away from going to state finals wish me luck in our match this week
LENNY TIME ]
ITS LENNY TIME
Lennny timeee
budget korean superstar in action!
on god
ur such a loser
Titans shocking me rn
titans are ruining the pickems ngl
Lol
THE CRUMBLE
titans ruining my bets
THE CRUMBLE
I put 3-0 LMAO
idk how
What’s the score from 2nd game
1-0 titans
this season isn’t what I’m expecting
I forgot to include that teams get significantly better through the season
aye you know what my preds for this match was perfectly fine (3-1 boston) until titans won another map
OOOO
ASPIRE
Widow is such a fun character
this is why he is on team usa
WHATS THE SCORTRRREEEEE
2-0
2-0
vancouver 2-0
NOOOOOOOO
rolling on map 3 too lowkey
This map is way closer tho
true
Birdring is on their ass
I’m at music class my video quality is fucked
someone tell me who’s playing for boston
kalios or smurf
bros praying on the boston downfall
lmao
lol
WHY IS boston 2-0 down
YO OOOLOLOLO
LETS GOOOO
LMFAO C9
LETS GIOOOOOOOOOO
NOO
TITANS
YEAHHHH
Decay only 1 trying
NO SHOT LOL
Punk is just too good
anyone know exactly how the tokens work?
like can i have another window of youtube open and still get them, can i be watching youtube on another device
you said it
I... asked two questions
Boston in shambles
Boston gave up LMAO
zen brig is insane
Birdring washed
hes hitting nice shots
sugar free>decay
ye
Gg
gg
rip Boston getting 3-0verwatch
BOSTON FRAUDRISING!
sad
this is easily the best thing ive ever experienced oin owl
In conclusion, Guanzhou Charge is the best team in OWL
the crumble.
Only the dps on boston was trying
LeeJaeGon went from LeeGaeGasm to LeeGaeDespair
titans looking very good
leejaegon aww
cleans
They would’ve had a better chance of winning with Smurf
agreed
the boomage ahs officialy started B)
Smurf> kalios
boston boomed now???
Idk why they benched Smurf this series
I bet on titans and they actually win
pickems are fucked
Birdring tried man
99% of pickems are fucked
I thought it was going to be 3-1 but we take 3-0s let's goooo
this week ruined everyones pickems
that is too good
Facts
this stage has ruined pickems
fuel boomed
fuck this week
charge op
D
ruined my picks :(
Wtf
dragons > dynasty
charge > spark
vancouver > boston
what a world we live in
I have 43
first week i was doing well then this week especially apac
I don’t care for APAC lmao
Dragons usually beat Dynasty tho
apac fucks me since first game
its been weird
Seoul dynasty used to be so good
apac this week was like you want to get pickem points i think not
and I remember when Shanghai was the worst team
i was fine til charge and dragons both second guess
😔 I’m too old
yeah
not at all
yeah
i mean dragons after 48 hours
you got glads or reign
yeah
but tobi can help them
reign
I say reign the world 🌍 👑
tobi should be able to fix the backline
🦅 🛑
LIP TIME
Heard Smurf didn’t get to play
Bruh
leejaefeeding
Literally threw by not having their best tank at all 🤣🤣
So Bostion threw
Literally didn’t know why they didn’t choose Smurf over kalios
Steal moon from dragons
💀 like wtf???
Get him on Bostion drop striker useless azz
It’s been shown that smurf is so much better than kalios 😭😭💀
Me
not me
they still lost with smurf in the line up....
punk has improved so much 🥹🥹
LOL
76k watching?
Was it 3-0
drops are on that is why
"quite the delicious win"
They gonna get fined for that ?
indeed
bruh
we got baited
They really got me
Their coach gotta be nutting
after that 3-0
LIP AND STALK3R plz
Reign plz don’t let my pickems go to waste
yeye dont worry, reign got us
I LOVE DANTEH
i do not
but reign is just them
therefore youre the loser
facts
I don’t ever wanna hear that British or victorianperrez again
White British girl*
I’ll cut my ears off
Fielder such a mouth breather 😔
i may be a loser but i feel like a freakin' winner
That’s what people say before every glads match
Where do you bet
gambling real money on overwatch games
wow
Ima be rich
lower than ian
every message u send ur life gets sadder and sadder
OWL players charge ult so fast jesus
for real
Sometimes in game I'm like jesus, x player would've had 2 and a half ults by this point
where are you even doing this
Holy shit reign just swept that round
titans are goats
…did boston win 😭😭😭😭
No
na lmao
pain.
beat justice to lose to titans💔
great round by Glads
glads did really good
Glads have gotten so much better since pro-am
night and day improvement
Especially from Danteh
Danteh has improved so much
I still believe 3-1 rien
I have 3-2
24 tokens from a skin
same\
Will I get today?
this emp huge
THEY DID IT
Daaamn
Lastro and Kev will have ult
when i get enough im gonna get sombra reign skin
no beat and annihilation or blizzard tho
LMAO ATLCOACH said tragic omg
🤣🤣
Wow, GLADS are not getting bullied
I thought it would’ve been a land slide
They shouldn’t have used 3 ults for emp tho. That’s what costed them
3-1
glads need to improve on ult economy, only thing I’ve seen them consistently do in every match
just checked east results DRAGONS BEATING DYNASTY???? GZ CHARGE STOMPING SPARK??? is it fucking Opposite Day
I’m gonna pretend like today didn’t happen
it's not gambling if there is no risk of losing
i agree wholeheartedly
YAKI ON SOMBRA????
isnt lip like best sombra worldwide
nah the ult on kev was personal
How is that even legal
maybe the deploying of the shield caught the pulse on the inside of the shield
c9
LMAOOO
C9ed
Could I get 24 tokens today
everyone says c9 in chat when it happens
what is yaki doing 💀
Awful rally
Already lost 2 and his tank is 1 hp
Reign getting sloppy there for sure
What is Yaki doing, blud is lost sometimes
chiyo is kicking yaki’s ass
but aside from atlanta getting really sloppy here does danteh really have nothing else to play then the winton here not looking like a great match for that overall ngl
He looked good on Ram map 1
LIP?
Oh shit, Decay and Striker are about to get into it big time probably
YAKI ISN'T REAL
CANCELED
Comp?
CANCELED EMP
Lmaoo what is this
Bro you're 1 hp, just chill
Nice to meet yall
we are watching spring qualifiers west owl ^~^
Lol what is that
Chiyo is so gross
pro overwatch
gladiators just getting shat on here
as expected
Yaki is so bad at Sombra
I heae that alot
compared to other pros
WOOOOO
3-0 possibility
ngl i am gonna bet atlanta reign wins this season they are looking by far the best out of all the teams so far
I think he’s playing sombra to try to just give more resistance
yaki time to get off sombra
thats my pres
If he just saves his EMP and takes the death, his team has like 4 ults for final fight
pred
he has to translocate out every time or he dies mid emp
I got reign 3-2 on Houston
for a championship atlanta outlaws charge look rlly good rn
Charge? Nah
What he say?
charge havent dropped a map
Charge would get walked by west teams
spark 😭😭😭
charge def the best out of the asia teams so far but i do agree that i dont think they are gonna be able to win out against reign here
I thought they would roll charge
depends which west teams
yeah big spark fan myself got multiple of their jersies and their skin for every hero i play but i am not huffing enough copium to believe that they will win ngl
big fan of the whole crossdressing thing the spark has going on
reign
outlaws
mayhem
i see a good chance for charge to get rank 3 but i dont see them in top 2 ngl
glads and titans probably sit somewhere below them slightly
Love my spark shirt
I only got it cuz I was a big fan back during s1 of OWL
tag still on the fuel shirt for a reason i guess lmao
forced to watch havana gameplay
wait am i seeing glads without widow 💀
brawl comp
this is way to early but my wallet WILL be broken when the atlanta reign championship skin drops
reign looking for the spawn hold
lmao gladiators just getting shat on again
xD
lip alr has emp
Might be his slowest emp yet
I got confused cause they were fighting next to the cart😭
gladiators looked for the spawn hold but they didnt get a single second hold
gladiators looked for the spawn hold but they forgot the hold part
reign is literally like sweeps hand “get the fuck out of our way”
sniper mei
my god the fuck glads doing they are loosing everything they could loose
what is danteh best ram NA doing
proud glads hater
LIP
Cant wait for reign championship skin
LIP EMP!!!!
Hawk is
so ez jeez
Just a differential
getting ram diffed on his best hero😭😭😭
What yall rank?
DANTEHHHHH
masters but i have 12 games won
diamond support👍
peaked master 2 but I solo q😭😭😭😭
danteh’s best tank is definitely doomfist
Lastro too late on that immortality field again
i duo q
m2 is my peak too
peak dia 5 support im bad at the game
mercy pocket mei in comp is fun
Im a sombra player
did lip only hit danteh with emp
When i play dps
TOUCH
i can only play dps
kevsterrrrr
I can play every supp decently enough
diamonds can 5 stack right
Masters
yea they can
however i can only play like 2 heros on tank and dps
ima go for GM this season
gonna assemble a team to get out of diamond and then never play comp again
went from bronze 4 in s3 to m5
get a reliable duo and mercy pocket them
next potential t3 overwatch champs
Only up from here 🔥
LIP EMP
5 ults versus 4 ults
What happened to the open divison stuff OW was doing
EMPPP
KEV went nuclear
Timeless won the first major right?
Sadly
kev went crazy
but yeah no way glad is pushing that through the way they played so far
are you like 20 seconds delayed bruh
its ok reign full hold
Glads full push
Kev went dummy
lets not bring tht up
Atlanta stopped in like the same spot and glads managed to push it that far