route 66 goes hard too
#esports-discussion
graceful pewter
very glad coins are back
graceful pewter
dont need to spend 12 dollars for 2 skins
is she flexing her stats on the left?
nvm
stray pond
i dont speak Korean so idk
balmy wolf
Is there any reason most OwL players are playing on 800 dpi 5 sens
Is it like a universal good sensitivity
graceful pewter
Is there any reason most OwL players are playing on 800 dpi 5 sens
depends tbh
stray pond
what a telpeort
graceful pewter
heyyy zen brig ball
stray pond
very touchy feely match
graceful pewter
fully expecting belosrea to hard gap mag
stray pond
i wanna see akshon e sports do a vid on owl man
the luck shot by prophet
that shot
was pure luck
there is no way
he timed that
graceful pewter
holy shit krillin just fell over
stray pond
cosmetic ult💀
they do be doing dragons dirty
gahhhhhh this is such a goofy ahh boring round
blizzard world is cringe
balmy wolf
gahhhhhh this is such a goofy ahh boring round
Because both teams have a ball and one has sombra 💀
stray pond
im atucally gonna fall asleep watching this
espically since i just took my meds
sus noises
godamn nice counter
graceful pewter
great hold
stray pond
boringgggggggggggggggggg
uncut drum
im atucally gonna fall asleep watching this
Then don't watch it
stray pond
what a boring round
graceful pewter
that flower looks nice
thorny saffron
they just do that in the start
stray pond
WIFELEVER!??!
thorny saffron
of every game
balmy wolf
oh dear god
stray pond
COME ON PLAY WIFELEAVER
thorny saffron
then switch
stray pond
PLZ
thorny saffron
typical troll
stray pond
I BEG OF YOU
balmy wolf
then switch
bro if he doesn't swap 💀
stray pond
PLAY IT FIXA
thorny saffron
bro if he doesn't swap 💀
NA does it all the time man
balmy wolf
NAHH HE SWAPPED
stray pond
COME ON FIXAAAAAAAA
graceful pewter
lmao
graceful pewter
this mf
stray pond
LES GOOOO
balmy wolf
a lifeweaver in owl would be funny as fuck
thorny saffron
a lifeweaver in owl would be funny as fuck
hes a throw
unless blizz buffs him more
stray pond
DAMN YOUUUUUUUUUUuu
balmy wolf
hes a throw
yeah thats why its funny
balmy wolf
unless blizz buffs him more
not even a buff would help him much his kit is just too garbage
he needs an actual rework new abilities
stray pond
unless blizz buffs him more
90 heal max charge+50% heal speed icnrease
thorny saffron
not even a buff would help him much his kit is just too garbage
they;ll just make him moth mercy again 
stray pond
not even a buff would help him much his kit is just too garbage
its not
their good abilites
the problem is his heals
balmy wolf
he's quite literally like an AI generated hero
thorny saffron
yeah his heals are bad
balmy wolf
complete rubbish
thorny saffron
their good abilites
yeah good saves can win games
stray pond
his abilities can be used very well in high play
thorny saffron
but sometimes ppl just die bc his heals arent enough lmao
thorny saffron
the petal is good for repositioning
stray pond
its just no matter how much utility u have
balmy wolf
lifegrip is 90% a throw ability
stray pond
a support should heal
balmy wolf
healing does nothing, damage does nothing
thorny saffron
and getting to places where you cant get to
thorny saffron
lifegrip is 90% a throw ability
thorny saffron
his giant hitbox is horrible too
balmy wolf
💀
it literally is unless you are constantly communicating it
you can't know the perfect time to pull a teammate
thorny saffron
thats the point being in pro play
balmy wolf
a lot of the time you just fuck them up
stray pond
cosmetic ult💀
balmy wolf
also his ult sucks
stray pond
of OWL
thorny saffron
yeah agree
balmy wolf
im talking about for regular players too you know
stray pond
3k hp
balmy wolf
even gms dont communicate that much
stray pond
im talking about for regular players too you know
so?
its clear lfieweaver was designged
thorny saffron
we in owl chat my guy
stray pond
for high levels of play
thorny saffron
lmao
balmy wolf
we in owl chat my guy
yea and im talking about the hero in general?
balmy wolf
i made that clear
stray pond
blizzard world is cringe
stray pond
yeah decent ig
floral nacelle
LMAO WINTON AT THE END
thorny saffron
dynasty
thorny saffron
yeah paper dynasty is better
graceful pewter
they're off for lunch break
stray pond
my god i nearly fell asleep on blizzard world
round shadow
my god i nearly fell asleep on blizzard world
you think ball comps are boring?
stray pond
you think ball comps are boring?
no
ive seen some cewl ball plays
and ball has a high skill ceiling
but when both teams r running it
with that poke comp
oh god
its a fucking snoozefest
round shadow
must not have liked 2021 season then
round shadow
that shit was everywhere
stray pond
well the 2nd tank made it better
kinda
imma grab a snack
whats the next map?
push?
shmabilia
cool
was the match interval always this long?
no way
this shit is taking forever
i realized i was lagging fast forward 57 seconds and the match still hasant started
FINALLY
bastion
pog pick
risky
plush grail
what is east cooking
stray pond
what is east cooking
holy fick
candid radish
What the fucks going on in Korea
plush grail
THE vegas fan
stray pond
i did not know vegas fans existed
loud elbow
they don't
graceful pewter
welp i guess korea don't prefer dive
loud elbow
He's secretly an Outlaws fan
graceful pewter
they like bastion
stray pond
bastion is pog
rare magnet
anyone got their name card drop yet
stray pond
infernal kinda cooking rn
plush grail
im real
stray pond
cmon dynasty
good ult
niceeeeeeeeeee
nice one dynasty
the way he blocks heals man
graceful pewter
wow nice
stray pond
thats owl lvl for u ig
split flume
apac is back 
graceful pewter
NA is not the only bastion enthusiast
stray pond
half of APAC is cooking
the rest r mid
diidnt MN3 say he wanted to play ashe not widow lmao
what
can someone explain what skewd is doing
is that some big brain OWL lineup that im not aware of
thorny saffron
whart the hell
graceful pewter
flank?
stray pond
the way he just was pointing the shield at the sky
well profit tried
he tried
BIG
graceful pewter
im so confused
stray pond
BIG ULT
thorny saffron
there we go
graceful pewter
why did they play brawl in the first half
thorny saffron
gimme my 3-1
stray pond
W win
stray pond
why did they play brawl in the first half
for funnies
thorny saffron
why did they play brawl in the first half
they cookin
graceful pewter
literally
stray pond
it was a ahhhhh honour bound pact
thorny saffron
this is way more entertaining lmao
stray pond
they wanted to repay us after that trash blizzard world match
ok i need infernal to win this one
cmon infernal
graceful pewter
APAC is already feeling Rush's scrims
Rush just brought NA comps over to korea
whats next
stray pond
r they just trying to appeal to people cuz its a token match
icy kestrel
I could be right for once
gaunt pebble
dynasty going crazy this round
icy kestrel
I got Washington and spitfire right
stray pond
INFERNALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLlll
TAKE
THE
MAP
MN3
CARRYYYYYYY
uhh yeah
it was like
one of the big selling points
its push cmon man
MN3
gaunt pebble
esperanca is not great tbh
gaunt pebble
we're betting OWL tokens
how lol?
stray pond
-_-
srsly man?
that was like
a massive part of this seasons owl
litreally everyone was talking about their pick ems
thorny saffron
damn
stray pond
COME ON INFERNALLL
thorny saffron
oh wait no its dynasty lmao
icy kestrel
I made a change I don’t think Vegas with get 2 points only 1 against Washington
stray pond
idk click the link
stray pond
I made a change I don’t think Vegas with get 2 points only 1 against Washington
nahhhhh
justice beat spitfire
they can STOMP vegas
wait atucally?
fuck
thorny saffron
naurrrrr come one dynasty
icy kestrel
I don’t think Vegas is good
thorny saffron
LMAO
stray pond
THE ENTIRE SEASON
gaunt pebble
how to i bet on the games going on today?
thorny saffron
vegas probably bottom tier
stray pond
vegas probably bottom tier
no shit sherlock
icy kestrel
Should I do 0-3?
thorny saffron
tho if they win games
gaunt pebble
ok cool
stray pond
they ARE
thorny saffron
big achievement
stray pond
bottom tier
stray pond
Should I do 0-3?
yes
thorny saffron
i like having some drama
stray pond
push the robot
stray pond
But Washington is a mid team I could see Vegas winning at least once
they beat spitfire
mirror was good
everyone was good
thorny saffron
justice is way better than eternal
graceful pewter
prophet
thorny saffron
pain
respect for infernal though
damn if they take this
next match
gonna be big for infernal
stray pond
ehhhh
waste of recall
couldve pushed a bit more profit
no shot they come back
no shot
MN3
EMP
cmon
big
fixa still has rally in the back
popped it
ok
thorny saffron
damn
stray pond
yeah infernal got this
thorny saffron
i disrespected infernal too much
icy kestrel
Bruh
gaunt pebble
dynasty got this next one easy
icy kestrel
I blame push
icy kestrel
Push is bad game mode
thorny saffron
no shit
stray pond
the fuel match was supposed to start 10 minutes ago
thorny saffron
i hate push
stray pond
bruh
thorny saffron
dynasty should win....
icy kestrel
the fuel match was supposed to start 10 minutes ago
They’re match I don’t think will last long
stray pond
They’re match I don’t think will last long
ehh yeah i think i was too generous to the charge
or maybe i was underestimating my own team lol
stray pond
les see em
graceful pewter
do you guys think mag would be a good cuddler
stray pond
https://pickem.overwatchleague.com/user/crab25274/predictions/2023/spring-stage
hey weve got the same amount of points
plush grail
do you guys think mag would be a good cuddler
???
icy kestrel
hey weve got the same amount of points
🦧
stray pond
do you guys think mag would be a good cuddler
too much meat on him
graceful pewter
i would like that
stray pond
too bad their on a shit team
graceful pewter
lol
stray pond
underestimating defiant a bit no?
icy kestrel
u should spend double tokens on mayhem vs vegas
I did it on mayhem vs valiant
stray pond
it should be a chinch for defiant to stomp NYXL 3-0
U BET 3-0 ON MAYHEM TO BEAT DEFAINT
graceful pewter
is geguri the only female player in OWL?
stray pond
THE SAME TEAM THAT WENT TOE TO TOE WITH SF SHOCK
icy kestrel
THE SAME TEAM THAT WENT TOE TO TOE WITH SF SHOCK
I could go toe to toe with shock
stray pond
u r either overestimating ur own team or very much underesimating defaint
plush grail
is geguri the only female player in OWL?
geguri hasnt been in owl for like 2 years now
icy kestrel
THE SAME TEAM THAT WENT TOE TO TOE WITH SF SHOCK
Wasn’t shock the team that lost to a contender team?
stray pond
Wasn’t shock the team that lost to a contender team?
well yeah but it was on ping
graceful pewter
geguri hasnt been in owl for like 2 years now
yeah shes retired
stray pond
not to mention u guys dropped a map agasint the titans
graceful pewter
but hasnt there been any since geguri?
stray pond
i dont think so?
graceful pewter
i guess halo count
gaunt pebble
is there a way to get tokens faster?
stray pond
is there a way to get tokens faster?
make good bets
plush grail
i guess halo count
halo is the only one yeah
icy kestrel
is there a way to get tokens faster?
Being right
icy kestrel
is there a way to get tokens faster?
Just copy mine
gaunt pebble
alright
graceful pewter
oh wait halo was a guy
gaunt pebble
Just copy mine
lol are you any good?
icy kestrel
lol are you any good?
Definitely
stray pond
yeah mayhem might beat defiant but without dropping a map?
gaunt pebble
dont he bet 3-0 for mayhem to beat defaint
oh ok
icy kestrel
lol are you any good?
icy kestrel
he is very buyious towards his own team
No
gaunt pebble
wait so how many tokens per correct guess?
icy kestrel
wait so how many tokens per correct guess?
3?
stray pond
if you dont pred your own team to win
hey @icy kestrel this guy thinks vegas can beat mayhem
what r ur thoughts on that
mag should've ulted
he got JUMPED tho
plush grail
gaunt pebble
dynasty gonna make a comeback this round
stray pond
dynasty gonna make a comeback this round
they better
gaunt pebble
oh wow
stray pond
PROPHET U DUMB FUCK WHAT WERE U DOING WIDE OPEN LIKE THAT
krillin
stall
i believe in u
i have faith
well
prophet just got DIFFED
GO FOR MN3
gaunt pebble
good ult tbh
gaunt pebble
what were your bets?
icy kestrel
3-2 to dynasty
Infernal are in the lead right now
gaunt pebble
holy crap mn3
icy kestrel
I think you are over hyping profit
graceful pewter
wait so pickems give you token if you're right?
graceful pewter
like you have to be accurate to the score or
stray pond
like 5-6
icy kestrel
Profit is 23 he’s way to old for this
stray pond
i think
graceful pewter
ah okay
stray pond
i didnt think infernal would do it
no no
gaunt pebble
this might go bad tbh
plush grail
Profit is 23 he’s way to old for this
he should have retired
stray pond
i believe in dynasty
plush grail
after he made gf
thorny saffron
gonna be hard
gaunt pebble
LETS GO
stray pond
he should have retired
hes just chilling
graceful pewter
i like skewed so im rooting for infernal
icy kestrel
he should have retired
Anyone that isn’t mayhem and proper should retire
plush grail
nice ult economy
stray pond
Profit is 23 he’s way to old for this
crazy how 23 is old in this line of work
gaunt pebble
nice ult economy
its better now
stray pond
GOOD ULT
plush grail
crazy how 23 is old in this line of work
there was 1 player
he was like 27
might have been soon
stray pond
WHAT THE FUCK R U DOING KRILLIN
plush grail
or jhong
icy kestrel
Wasn’t there a 13 or 15 year old
plush grail
yeah soon was 27 when he was in owl lmao
gaunt pebble
PROPHET
thorny saffron
ooooooooo
plush grail
Wasn’t there a 13 or 15 year old
not possible
thorny saffron
actually winnable
plush grail
age limit
plush grail
ZEST 
plush grail
50K A YEAR TO MISS SHOTS ON A ANA WITH 30 HP
stray pond
krillin get ru ass back as lucio
gaunt pebble
YES
icy kestrel
17 age mimunium
I looked it up sugar free was signed at age 13
stray pond
DEFENSE
plush grail
I looked it up sugar free was signed at age 13
not owl
thorny saffron
belosorea's doom ended up clutch here
gaunt pebble
LETS GOOOOOOO
stray pond
LES GO ZEST MISSED HIS ULT
thorny saffron
what a game
graceful pewter
thats what wild
stray pond
WILD
gaunt pebble
doom went crazy omg
stray pond
fucking wild match
thorny saffron
doom went crazy omg
yeah he clutched that
uncut drum
pick was crazy
graceful pewter
more doom dive
gaunt pebble
yeah he clutched that
100%
thorny saffron
mn3 was nutty though
graceful pewter
aw
gaunt pebble
we need first cap
thorny saffron
mn3 activating his third eye LMAO
stray pond
take out MN3
thorny saffron
sheesh
gaunt pebble
damn
thorny saffron
F
stray pond
F
graceful pewter
that lucio speed is huge
stray pond
WHAT
gaunt pebble
F
gaunt pebble
YES
stray pond
kk
stray pond
did belo just fall down
gaunt pebble
hes cracked
stray pond
into the hole
graceful pewter
dynasty have 4 ults
stray pond
kk emp should be huge
gaunt pebble
i feel like doom would do well again
stray pond
cmon prophet dont pull an assiasian
graceful pewter
doom lucio here
thorny saffron
huge
stray pond
hes switched to sombra
thorny saffron
ok winnable for dynasty
gaunt pebble
lol
stray pond
hack skew
zet has pulse watch out
gkkkk the pick on profit
NANO
OK
CMON
GOOD SLEEP
hot onyx
you have to be shitting me
stray pond
YES
graceful pewter
nooooooo
gaunt pebble
LETS GOOOOO
stray pond
FINISHED OFF MAG
gaunt pebble
COMMON
thorny saffron
nice
gaunt pebble
YESSSSSSS
graceful pewter
wooooow
balmy wolf
NOOOOOOOOO
stray pond
I CALLED IT MOTHERFCUKERS
thorny saffron
damn i shouldnt have underestimated infernal too much
gaunt pebble
gg
stray pond
I CALLED IT
graceful pewter
nice pred @stray pond
balmy wolf
INFERNAL WAS SO CLOSE 😭
stray pond
jokes aside w match ggs all round
thorny saffron
yeah wtf went all the way
split flume
SCRIMS MEAN NOTHING
candid radish
Taken the Infernal 1 game to bottle something
gaunt pebble
mn3 mad mad
graceful pewter
cmon fight
stray pond
kekek called it
thorny saffron
mn3 mad mad
cracked hanzo
gaunt pebble
fr
graceful pewter
slap each other
stray pond
les goooooo
graceful pewter
or kiss idk
gaunt pebble
they should all make out
graceful pewter
^^
stray pond
now the fuel match
graceful pewter
welp
balmy wolf
i had so much hope for infernal this is sad
humble yarrow
Unfortunately Mag isn't great
gaunt pebble
nice one profit
karmic charm
i think i was a bit too generous
charge arent bad
stray pond
bro carried that shit harder then jjonak carries NYXL
karmic charm
charge ended 2022 being one of the better teams in apac
stray pond
they didint make any changes to their roster no?
karmic charm
no
gaunt pebble
profit could get a skin this season
karmic charm
sinatraas fault
gaunt pebble
what happened
karmic charm
SA allegations
stray pond
atucally?
karmic charm
yeah
stray pond
bro pulled a jesse mcree
gaunt pebble
yikers
karmic charm
the girl reciepts and audio footage too
karmic charm
and then sin refused to comply with investigations etc
stray pond
i think MN3 should've been player of the match
stray pond
Why did inferno just lose that
got staggered
not much they could do
just rushed to point to get picked off one by one
karmic charm
i think MN3 should've been player of the match
does player of the match ever go to the losing team?
balmy wolf
Profit carried last round
stray pond
does player of the match ever go to the losing team?
idk but it should
floral nacelle
does player of the match ever go to the losing team?
Yea
floral nacelle
It’s an individual award it doesn’t matter the team
hot onyx
does player of the match ever go to the losing team?
it once went to Ado on the 0-40 Shanghai Dragons
karmic charm
yeah i remember that
but that was player of the week
no?
not match
it was in the 2-3 vs fusion in i think stage 3?
floral nacelle
Diya season 1 Shanghai
ornate night
boston v nyc what yall saying?
plush grail
i think
boston will be top tier for a bit
and then the mental goes in the drain again
balmy wolf
Why do I have to wait another 10
stray pond
prep time ig
loud elbow
boston will be top tier for a bit
very spicy, sad it probably won't come to be though lol
plush grail
it will
loud elbow
Striker and decay's mental are already gone
plush grail
i really doubt a team with so many top tier players will mald at the start
they will try to power trough the season
but they will boom after a few games
u have to realise that twilight was on the titans when they imploded
he doesnt want that again i hope
and decay is not gonna get another shot if more rumours of hit shit mental come out
icy kestrel
Someone should pull out the mei penguin skin in the league
balmy wolf
What team has the best OwL skins?
icy kestrel
What team has the best OwL skins?
Mayhem
gaunt pebble
imo dynsaty
balmy wolf
I was gonna get seoul infernal but vegas also looks cool
I really like red and black if you couldnt tell
gaunt pebble
dynasty is clean with gold weapons
humble yarrow
Piggy looks great
stray pond
mm hm
lets start the match boys
cmon
piggy looks bored out of his mind
jack in the box
👍
balmy wolf
How much OwL league tokens do you usually get from watching every single live for months
If anyone has done that before
I wanna just leave every single live in the background and get a ton of team skins for all the heroes I want
stray pond
I wanna just leave every single live in the background and get a ton of team ski...
only a few matches give u
uhh
tokens
gaunt pebble
anyone else notice the audio delay
balmy wolf
only a few matches give u
I'm checking the rewards website and it says all of them lol
floral nacelle
Yea it should be all
balmy wolf
For the entire months of may, june, july, august, september
If I keep watching all these for months will I just be stacked
stray pond
I'm checking the rewards website and it says all of them lol
what no?
floral nacelle
If I keep watching all these for months will I just be stacked
No
stray pond
only the matches listed as token matches have drops
balmy wolf
Damn
stray pond
only some matches have tokens
not all of em have drops
nepal
noice
hanbin on doom?
plz??
plz?
POG
HANBINS ON DOOM
W
gaunt pebble
fr
static goblet
what exactly happened to chengdu btw?
stray pond
YEAHHH BABY
static goblet
they went bankrupt
ohshi. i thought it was cause the game was cancelled in china and was wondering how guangzhou stayed.
gaunt pebble
whats with the skins?
stray pond
nice save hanbin
stray pond
whats with the skins?
away skins
gaunt pebble
why is gz pink?
stray pond
thats their home colors?
gaunt pebble
oh im tripping
gaunt pebble
no charge is wearing spark skins
stray pond
no charge is wearing spark skins
they just look the same
godammit
cmon dallasssss
hanbin was looking good on doom
hmm
whatever
lucky
hanbin play doom man
u looked good on doom
good dive
they held 2 fights
uncut drum
@sullen berry you didnt tell us about the new charge colours
split flume
JIMMY SWEEP
thorny saffron
i had it at 3-1 for dallas but wow charge is really good
stray pond
i had it at 3-1 for dallas but wow charge is really good
me too
hanbin could play JQ on hollywood?
maybe
bring out comps their more comfy with
thorny saffron
man i wanted to see more doom
balmy wolf
Is there any way to automatically open and start the livestream while I'm away from my PC
balmy wolf
I'll be asleep when the next one starts in 7 hrs
balmy wolf
macro ig
How do I even bind a marco to trigger when a yt live starts 😂
I don't know programming that well
stray pond
fuck
plush grail
!gettokens
plush grail
!drops
stray pond
fuel
cmon man
sweep now
plz
play tanks ur better with
JQ
shit like that
zaeya
yeah lmao
could zarya work on holly?
maybe
anyway sweep
cmon
bad start
pick it back up
hanbin is good on zarya tho
split flume
i was under the impression dallas and coach rush just made their own meta and made it work 
stray pond
yeah
thats what i wanna see
cmon dallas
man losing fearless rlt hurts times like these
rotund creek
If I watch OWL on console will it still give me tokens or does it have to be pc/mobile
stray pond
i have faith in dallas
they looked good on that doom comp
faith
i trust dallas and coach rush
they'll make it work out
floral nacelle
What do points even contribute to
floral nacelle
tokens
So is it like ranking (guy with the most points gets tokens and nobody else) or does everyone get tokens if they have at least a point
stray pond
everyone get tokens depending on points idk what the ratio is
floral nacelle
Nice
plush grail
im pretty sure if u have the highest points at the end of the season u get money
at least 2 years ago that was the case
the reward was like 100k
uncut drum
@fading wing @icy valve did you guys get double points from the Atlanta match
floral nacelle
<@621499826894405633> <@395571643079983104> did you guys get double points from ...
I put double points on that match
Still haven’t gotten my extra point
uncut drum
same
icy valve
I didn't get the double points for the Atlanta game yet
plush grail
!drops
uncut drum
I didn't get the double points for the Atlanta game yet
must be delayed
static pond
I think to tell to focus on the game not the audience
uncut drum
where the players
stray pond
is xerneas fuck nvm
uncut drum
stray pond
NO
static pond
Huh?
stray pond
EDISONNNNNN
static pond
What does that have to do with what I said lol
uncut drum
they are shy
static pond
That’s mostly a na thing
stray pond
FUCKERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
stray pond
the ult economy
gak
i cant watch
bliss
why
BUFF GENJI SO THIS TEAM CAN BE GOOD
uncut drum
calm down dude
stray pond
what happened to the people who atucally cared about leauge -_-
i jus realized piggy is no.69
nice
uncut drum
all of us care
humble yarrow
Right here
uncut drum
then dont
split flume
fraudbin being exposed without his adamantium backline
uncut drum
it is top tier dps and tank with a mid backline
we all know this
we knew it when they announced the roster
hot onyx
live censorship
split flume
JIMMY SWEEP
uncut drum
lol the beep
humble yarrow
it is top tier dps and tank with a mid backline
I had confidence in Rush to make them better.
But I guess not
static pond
Dallas always had meta in there favor imo
uncut drum
i dont know why he is playing Winston it is so rough he should go with the dva if he wants to play a dive
uncut drum
yes sprk1e
didnt you say you weren't going to watch it?
split flume
JIMMY SWEEP
uncut drum
well i cant watch this
.
waxen ether
loud elbow
Jimmy sweep
ocean steppe
yuh
floral nacelle
Meta is a pain in the ass
static pond
Honestly this is just Dallas not getting there way in the meta