esports-discussion

[icy kestrel]

As I said fuel and mayhem are going to sweep

[karmic charm]

neither gonna be top 1 in their region

[cobalt talon]

I think Hangzhou will be top 2

hot take?

[icy kestrel]

They are

[karmic charm]

top 2 in apac or top 2 owl?

[karmic charm]

no they arnet

cope

[cobalt talon]

Probably not top 2 owl the west is stacked

[karmic charm]

theyll be the best team in apac

[cobalt talon]

Do you know how good dallas' backline is

[karmic charm]

its nothing compared to 2022s backline

[cobalt talon]

Yeah fielder/chiyo was insane

[karmic charm]

and shy leave is far better than sparkle edi

and do u really trust hanbin on winston

[cobalt talon]

we'll see if it's a winston meta

hanbin played when it was joats right?

[icy kestrel]

I don’t know what y’all are on but Florida will win

Chimera isn’t doing to bad this round

[karmic charm]

uh uh

[cobalt talon]

Florida will be a decent team but def not a top tier

[karmic charm]

its very likely it will be

[karmic charm]

they will be top tier

but htey wont win

[cobalt talon]

Yeah I can see them making top 4

[icy kestrel]

They are THE top team

[karmic charm]

they arent

pro am bias is silly

[cobalt talon]

Pro am bias = shock WASHED

[icy kestrel]

The top 4 contains 1st as well

[karmic charm]

i dont see any east team getting top 4 tbh

[cobalt talon]

Hangzhou 🙏

[karmic charm]

spark MAYBE

but over shock, reign, outlaws, mayhem?

[icy kestrel]

Spark or Dallas

[karmic charm]

neither will get top 4

spark has a chance

but i doubt it

[icy kestrel]

I never watched the Korean teams

[cobalt talon]

Can't wait to watch the reign this yr

They have such a good roster hopefully hawk steps up when it matters

[karmic charm]

shock probably wins again this year tho tbh as much as i hate to say it

shock reign finals probably

[uncut drum]

you did infernal winning

are you made

[icy kestrel]

I like watching contenders the matches look like normal ranked matches

[uncut drum]

mad

[cobalt talon]

Proper grand finals mvp hopefully
he can build a goat case in 2 seasons

[karmic charm]

over dyn?

[cobalt talon]

Do you know if this yr is profit's last

[icy kestrel]

Can I link mine how do I do that?

[karmic charm]

this year is probably owls last

[karmic charm]

at the top

tehres a thing that syas share

[cobalt talon]

Well we said that last year

[karmic charm]

teams werent literally dying last year

[icy kestrel]

Viewing results for?

[karmic charm]

ow was in china last year

[cobalt talon]

Wonder when they'll pull chengdu skins from the shop

[icy kestrel]

I’m on mobile

[karmic charm]

also viewership for pro am was embarrassing

[karmic charm]

oh idk then

[cobalt talon]

Well tbf no drops
contenders on twitch was pulling 30k+

[karmic charm]

pro am peaked at 36k

[icy kestrel]

https://pickem.overwatchleague.com/en-us/predictions/2023/spring-stage

[karmic charm]

it shouldnt need drops to get more than 36k

the finals didnt even make top 5 most viewed matched

infact after day 1, only 1 other match was in top 5

thats completely embarrassment

[cobalt talon]

Yeah pretty bad

I wish I went to grand finals last year tickets were $35 for a 30min drive

In contrast to season 1 when philly homestand tickets were $100

[karmic charm]

this isnt too bad, but i doubt htey can replicate that this year

2022 playoffs was the most viewers owl has ever had since stage 1 2018

[cobalt talon]

man everything felt so bright in season 1

too bad blizzard didn't know how to manage an esport

[icy kestrel]

I like drops

[karmic charm]

everyone does

but if the esports can only pull in viewers from drops

its dead

[icy kestrel]

I also like watching it now as well

[uncut drum]

yes

dynasty will win

[icy kestrel]

No

[karmic charm]

it is

it cant even get to 50k

[icy kestrel]

No

[karmic charm]

without drops

[karmic charm]

idk

depends how much profit still wants it

[cobalt talon]

Fleta tank carry 😤

[icy kestrel]

There’s going to be people watch with or with drops and if there’s league coins I’ll watch every match and probably regardless

[cobalt talon]

Really wish they didn't change skin prices from 200 to 300 with the ow2 switch

[karmic charm]

obviously

but it sohuldnt require drops

to succeed

[icy kestrel]

It’s the equivalent of a store giving free samples, not needed but a good thing to have

[karmic charm]

yeah, and if a store can only get customers from free samples

its not succeeding

[cobalt talon]

well yeah but if the free samples are the only reason the customers come something is not right

[karmic charm]

u dont see any other esports requiring drops to pull in viewers

[uncut drum]

i fell like he justs wants to have fun now

he wants to still win but from things like on stream and stuff it just sounds like he wants to enjoy

[karmic charm]

see thats why i think infernal might win

[icy kestrel]

I go to sams for the free stuff I can get a full free meal

[karmic charm]

i feel like zest mn3 really want it

[karmic charm]

i feel like ur purposely missing the point

[cobalt talon]

what a chad

[icy kestrel]

I can spend more money on Florida mayhem skins almost have them all

[icy kestrel]

No

[icy kestrel]

Exactly I like enjoying things while we still have it

And it’s not dead the fact that they’re live right now, dead means they wouldn’t ever be live under any circumstances

Struggling would be the right word

[cobalt talon]

On life support

[karmic charm]

as an esports it is effectively dead

owl is basically in a vegetative state

[icy kestrel]

A lot of games don’t have esports they’re dead in the esports category

[cobalt talon]

no you get 5/hr every match

[icy kestrel]

5 every hour and some are double

[earnest leaf]

Ow esports is doing fine

idk why people go doom and gloom every year

[icy kestrel]

And right now siege esports is on wait until that’s over

[earnest leaf]

also Esports as a whole is struggling to a degree

[karmic charm]

ow is trying to be an active esports

its competitors are games like r6s, cs, val, lol, rl, apex

and it doesnt even come close in comparison

like if we compare all those games most recent tournaments

all the most recent major tournaments for these games

whereas ow got 36k peak

[earnest leaf]

You're really comparing pro-am to full on tourneys

proam is a pre-season tournament, that wasn't even super promoted nor did it have drops

It's like comparing the viewership of the NFL pre-season to the NBA playoffs

[karmic charm]

pro am is still supposed to be an S tier tournament

but i mean, we can compare 2022 to those

playoffs did good

got 50k in summer showdown

[earnest leaf]

proam isn't meant to be a big tier tourney

[karmic charm]

its still an s tier tourney

that has a higher prize pool than lec

[earnest leaf]

If you can't understand then idk

[karmic charm]

ur just coping honestly

if u cant accept that owl is dying and 36k is abysmal viewership

thats on u

[earnest leaf]

I will make it easy

[indigo harbor]

ZAMN still no tokens

[earnest leaf]

The Pro-Am Tournament was a pre-season tournament that wasn't meant to be a big time thing, it wasn't very popular among some teams to the point that they didn't even promote it, it also involved contenders teams and talent to give them some shine on a bigger stage, also viewership wise it didn't have drops which is what makes the biggest difference

To take proam as the immediate snapshot of the state of the league is dishonest

[karmic charm]

like ive already said, it shouldnt need drops to get viewership

[indigo harbor]

Crazy

[karmic charm]

okay how about we take this as the state of the league, owl has NEVER grown as an esports

it has never gotten higher than 2018 stage 1

[earnest leaf]

ok and

I'm not saying it's a massive S tier esport

it's probably more a B tier esport that does fine

[karmic charm]

u can try and defend 36k viewers all u want for pre season

it got 51k peak summer showdown in 2022

its an esport that relies on drops to be even relevant

thats not healthy or sustainable

[rugged eagle]

im silver one

[earnest leaf]

People say this doom and gloom shit every year and the league keeps on going

[karmic charm]

please show me one other esports that relies on drops to remain relevant

[earnest leaf]

I don't care if it relies on drops to have higher viewership

[worn falcon]

He isn't pointing anything, he saying owl is doing fine as is it

[karmic charm]

its not tho

[worn falcon]

Still fun to watch, still going after 5 years

[karmic charm]

saying owl is doing fine is just a straight up lie

[static pond]

Wait so like couldt team USA pick kevster?

[karmic charm]

kevster is swedish

[willow drum]

Which is just a lie

[earnest leaf]

I just don't care to hear people bitching about the state of the league every other fucking week lmao

just don't watch

simple

[willow drum]

Anybody who thinks owl is doing fine is living under a rock

Lmao

Quite simple as that

[karmic charm]

nobody is saying we dont like the league

if ur dickriding it so hard that u cant accept that its failing thats on u

[earnest leaf]

I get it, you think the league is dead

I don't care i'm just gonna watch for however long it goes

[willow drum]

I just think it’s not doing fine

And probably needs help

As an esports

Everybody does

[karmic charm]

theres literally a lawsuit against owl no?

like is that not enough proof that its failing miserbaly

[willow drum]

It’s a lawsuit from the government itself

[karmic charm]

nobody is saying dont watch it, its just realistic that its practically dead

[willow drum]

Plus multiple organizations have literally dropped out

😭😭

[earnest leaf]

Activision blizzard is getting a lawsuit, not owl itself

[karmic charm]

activision blizzard is getting a lawsuit BECAUSE of owl

[willow drum]

This

[earnest leaf]

owl might have something going on with pay or some shit I don't remember the full details

[azure shoal]

same

[willow drum]

They do

Blizzard is getting sued because of owls pay

[azure shoal]

idk why im not getting tokens

[karmic charm]

what was it again? sfs is the only org to even breakeven in owl?

and everyone else is at a loss?

[earnest leaf]

Only lawsuit shit I can find on the league itself is the teams looking to get some of the money back from their initial investments or something from blizzard, and a lawsuit that was settled with the government abut a competitive balance tax

[worn falcon]

^

2 diff things

[karmic charm]

the fact theres a lawsuit in the first place is embarrassing

[earnest leaf]

The big time lawsuit rn is blizzard itself getting sued for mistreatment of employees, which from everything I can remember didn't involve the OW and OWL side of things

[worn falcon]

also about the balance tax

https://gizmodo.com/activision-blizzard-call-duty-overwatch-salary-lawsuit-1850295657

already settled

also Uber addresed the stuff about viewership in his video

[chilly mauve]

On the topic of lawsuit

Apparently some gamer in China tried to file a lawsuit against blizzard

[worn falcon]

yeh, under the netease

but was some angry gamer

[astral epoch]

How am I meant to get owl coins for all the bundles they are releasing

[lost dagger]

where do i get the role for esports announcements

[chilly mauve]

U pay for it

Or watch the stream

[astral epoch]

But I thought these streams aren’t giving it

[chilly mauve]

they weren’t giving out tokens because the season hasn’t started yet

It was the preseason

It starts on Thursday

[astral epoch]

Nice

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/fei_yaaa/status/1651002408804204545?s=46

fei (@fei_yaaa)

eileen was disgusted by this peach and pineapple pizza with coconut blueberry sauce that diya recommended and posted a picture of it on weibo….

i’m just amazed and slightly horrified that they even sell this…

Twitter · Apr 25, 2023, 11:17 PM

[stiff venture]

THAT isn't eSports

But ok

👍

[static pond]

Yea it is

[stiff venture]

Ok

[static pond]

Diya a esports player

[stiff venture]

Nice pfp

Oh ok

Sorry

[static pond]

Lol I’m kidding

I’m just sharing because it a cool lil topic

[stiff venture]

Cool

[agile moat]

will ow league give out tokens on thursday?

[deft wolf]

if you watch it

[solar tree]

Yeah how does that work

I linked my account to YouTube already

Watched like at least 3 hours of it

Live

[topaz tendon]

Wait someone explain how I get token when they stream owl

[solar tree]

No last time they were live

The pro am

Like at least a few weeks ago

[willow drum]

that one doesnt give

[solar tree]

Oh ok thx

So only official season?

[chilly mauve]

yes

the pro am is a preseason

hence no drops

the actual season starts thursday

just link ur battle net accound with youtube

and u will be fine

there should be another channel for drops which explains everything about them

[chilly mauve]

Wrong channel buddie

[ebon ice]

oops. apologies

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/ShanghaiDragons/status/1651088894916710400

Shanghai Dragons (@ShanghaiDragons)

Farewell, diem😢

Twitter · Apr 26, 2023, 5:00 AM

[next mesa]

BRUH THIS GUY IS JUST TROLLING ME

[sullen berry]

Now it's been cut down to two ✌️ assuming coach bebe is actually coach bebe

[snow beacon]

OWL is streaming on YT. Do I get OWL coins if I watch it?

[sullen berry]

If they didn't say, then spring open doesn't give rewards

OWL starts this Thursday, these are open qualifiers for the Contenders teams

@snow beacon

[sullen berry]

[snow beacon]

So no coins, got it!

[cedar oasis]

HoW dO I GeT CoInS????

[sullen berry]

btw Overwatch League only gives OWL Tokens, not OW2 coins, but I'm pretty sure you meant that

@cedar oasis uninstall the game

[cedar oasis]

I did

Didn't work

[sullen berry]

I got coins

[cedar oasis]

I see now

Ow must be racist

[sullen berry]

Pro tip, if you spend all 999 you have after getting that bastion skin for 1 coin you'd be set by now with an epic skin

[young prism]

does the owl thing this morning have drops 🫶

[gaunt acorn]

@sullen berry need to use the new

[tiny zephyr]

Did him dirty damnn

[sullen berry]

i did and it did not go as planned on mobile

Discord thinks 🦉 and are the same

[gaunt acorn]

rip

[tranquil swallow]

how do I get OWL tokens? do I just link my battle.net to my YouTube, and watch the current live stream?

[plush grail]

diem???

[sullen berry]

So you thought Dragons had a chance

[plush grail]

no

[chilly mauve]

overwatch league season starts Thursday 12 pacific time, and that’s when owl token drops will also begin

what u see this morning is contenders (T2)

[young prism]

yummy thank u 🫶

[hot onyx]

boy i am excited for May 7th

[chilly mauve]

Glads v Atlanta?

[mortal cipher]

Sad nur Health Cokes first

Health Comes first

At least we got. Iris out of it

[pale field]

Sans V funnyastro

[hot onyx]

the day Vancouver Titans beats Boston Uprising

[hot onyx]

Crusty vs Lucio Dad 2.0 duel

[cloud latch]

bro is excited for boston to win 😭

[hot onyx]

?

Levi you are going to look so silly when the Titans boom this "super team"

[chilly mauve]

Boy am I excited for April 29th

The day charge beats the fuel

[cedar oasis]

No one thinks that

Nor even you do

[plush grail]

whats the schedule

@sullen berry ur the owl nerd

tell me

[cosmic agate]

Guess I'll post this here as well since it's suitable. If y'all could take a second I'd appreciate you filling this out 🙂 https://forms.office.com/r/PnhRBY82cw

[icy kestrel]

Is it to late for the Lucio skin

[plush grail]

if i click this link how many crypto miners get installed on my pc

[cedar oasis]

U mean the prison PC ian

[plush grail]

who are u

[cosmic agate]

Lol

My prison PC 💀

Student at HU, esports student. I’m doing it for a school project

It’s literally a Microsoft Form 😭 idk how else to tell people I’m not tryna gyp em’

[icy kestrel]

Could I still the Lucio skin

[undone bone]

speaking of microsoft
who plays minecraft?

[cedar oasis]

A free man unlike you

[cosmic agate]

I do occasionally, like the meme where I get on my 2 week grind then stop playing for the year

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/nyexcelsior/status/1651272800412352514?s=46

NY Excelsior (@NYExcelsior)

Seems like our teaser was a bit too obvious.

A crew is nothing without its leaders. We are excited to announce our incredible coaching staff for the 2023 OWL Season.

@changgOW
@a__amir
@arqnuGget
@gryphysics

We look forward to having this squad be the captain of our ship as…

Twitter · Apr 26, 2023, 5:11 PM

[split flume]

Fraudgoon

[sullen berry]

Surely if you subscribed to the Ecopoint Podcast you'll know about it

[sullen berry]

No they literally revealed their coaches in a promotion before they had an official post for them

[mortal cipher]

Changoon returns

Fits and creative cant escape

[sullen berry]

The day charge beats dallas (because they didn't have enough the first two times) is the day we are officially world champions

[mortal cipher]

Has Dallas ever beaten charge

[static pond]

Nope

[mortal cipher]

Heh

[static pond]

And the match’s start tomorrow?

[mortal cipher]

Yeah I believe

[static pond]

What the time for both regions?

[mortal cipher]

Well east isn’t till like Sunday

[plush grail]

also

doesnt east still need to do pro-am?

[static pond]

Ya i think

[mortal cipher]

East didnt get a pro am

[static pond]

Mb I meant like what time do the matches start tomorrow

[plush grail]

they delayed cause of chengdu right

[static pond]

I think they did

[mortal cipher]

Like 4 or 1 am

Depends yer Time Zone

[static pond]

But it didn’t have ow team

[mortal cipher]

East didnt get one they just gave contenders competing to see who gets to play in the season

[plush grail]

legit question

what if

during a important match

we had player-cams

and the players just started making out

haha

[mortal cipher]

Lol

[plush grail]

wouldn't that be so silly and goofy

[mortal cipher]

It would probably be charge if any

[static pond]

Shock vs Toronto sounds good

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[static pond]

Disappointing we only get 3 matches first day

Second day sounds better

[plush grail]

i doubt shock will be all that good

[static pond]

Glads vs Houston

[plush grail]

houston has a shit backline

viol2t

and idk who else

tbh

[static pond]

What about

Shock vs atl

[plush grail]

vegas vs everyone

[static pond]

Does Vegas have a team house?

[mortal cipher]

Isn’t that the usual

[plush grail]

my basement

[static pond]

I know there cod team doesn’t

[static pond]

Ya I think but the second match is one sided Vancouver vs Florida

[plush grail]

vegas for sure has some more money

[mortal cipher]

Oof

[plush grail]

the rumors of them getting rhyno

[mortal cipher]

Usually the last day of the week is a 4 match day

[static pond]

The third is justice vs London

Might be pretty good

[mortal cipher]

Wjats the first Match of the year

[static pond]

I heard of him but don’t know anything

[mortal cipher]

Same

[static pond]

Shock vs Toronto

[mortal cipher]

That’s gonna be good

[static pond]

Is the very first match

[mortal cipher]

Dang starting out strong I see

[static pond]

The 30th is tornto vs glads

29 shock vs atl

[mortal cipher]

First Apac Game Is the Battle of Seoul

[static pond]

Oooo

I see Seoul infernal winning

[mortal cipher]

Phillyfernal v Dynasty

[chilly mauve]

I thought East pro am is after mid season madness

[mortal cipher]

Maybe

[plush grail]

whats seouls roster rn

[static pond]

Which

[plush grail]

the not shit one

[mortal cipher]

Which one

[plush grail]

dynsasty

[chilly mauve]

Profit prohet void

Leesoomin krillin

[mortal cipher]

Prophet Profit Void Seominseo Krillim

[mortal cipher]

OOp

[plush grail]

???

seominsoo is in owl???

[mortal cipher]

I think maybe

[chilly mauve]

seominseo yeah

Definitely in owl

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[static pond]

I support void

[chilly mauve]

hot take

[mortal cipher]

Then PhillyFernal is Mn3 Zest Poko Mag Skewed and Fixa

[chilly mauve]

Shanghai is better than dynasty

infernal is the best in apac

[mortal cipher]

Dang faithful

[mortal cipher]

Always will

[chilly mauve]

this is the year for infernal

[mortal cipher]

Fleta gonna diff his former teammate lol

[static pond]

Tbh I really have faith in mag

[mortal cipher]

I Hope je does well

[static pond]

Hoping he can do good

[chilly mauve]

if it’s Ashe meta

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[chilly mauve]

infernal win the whole championship

[mortal cipher]

But hessu ashe

[chilly mauve]

I like mn3 Ashe more than heesu

and mn3 widow

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[static pond]

Tbh I just wanna see fleta play

[mortal cipher]

Last year hessu ashe Won Games by himself

[mortal cipher]

Same

[chilly mauve]

oh yeah for sure especially during joats meta

[mortal cipher]

Fleta Tank has more Potential to Win

[static pond]

Fleta always been like a team player

Not the solo carry

Imo

[mortal cipher]

Hessu pulls out ashe when it’s a sojourn meta amd still Wins

[mortal cipher]

Fleta is Meta Part II

[chilly mauve]

Tbf Ashe is still great pick especially since joats make u grouped up together often

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[static pond]

But if dragons is the worse team

I don’t see them having pressure to perform

Just do whatever they can do

Upset they replace whoru with a other genji one trick

From contenders

[chilly mauve]

viper?

[static pond]

Mhm

[chilly mauve]

Didn’t know he only played genji

[static pond]

I think he a genji one trick also

I’m double check

[chilly mauve]

also

[plush grail]

wasnt it tracer

[chilly mauve]

I was watching one of the Korean contender streams not long ago

did I just see dreamer play support

[plush grail]

im thinking of venom

[chilly mauve]

The dreamer that was on outlaws

[static pond]

Yup genji one trick

[mortal cipher]

I think he plays similar to fleta but with a whoru Level Genji

[static pond]

His profit only legit just has genji lol

[mortal cipher]

Honestly they could just be Chungdu without much pressure

[static pond]

Profile*

Crazy tho because if I remember

[mortal cipher]

I thought it had least pharah

[plush grail]

are they gonna be a meme team for 2 years and then disband??

[static pond]

That also whoru tho

[mortal cipher]

Maybe that’s just his signature tho

[chilly mauve]

https://www.youtube.com/live/nQew7-fdvRo?feature=share

[mortal cipher]

Nah

[static pond]

Whoru plays projectile

[chilly mauve]

At 2:57:55

[static pond]

Pretty good

[chilly mauve]

is that the dreamer on support

[mortal cipher]

I mean Shanghai were the Meta killers

[chilly mauve]

That played for outlaws in 2021

[mortal cipher]

Are*

[static pond]

I think whoru could have been a good flex dps

If he put time to learning tracer and such

[chilly mauve]

If he learnt tracer then maybe

[mortal cipher]

He played Some tracer

[static pond]

I think he could have been really good

[mortal cipher]

But it was ok

[static pond]

With how fast he plays

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

His Genji was good it didn’t even Need s Blade

[static pond]

I don’t think he got signed

Guess I wait see what viper all about

[mortal cipher]

Probably not but I saw a clip of him still playing

[mortal cipher]

He was on 02 so he’s gotta be good

[static pond]

Yup

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[static pond]

But like they were bench

Some of there players

It was heesang and 02 blast

Proper *

[mortal cipher]

He was playing this current year. But being a bench on 02 means you have to be at least Good enough

[chilly mauve]

anyone got any upsets for this weekend?

[mortal cipher]

Wot are the matches tomorrow

[chilly mauve]

Defiant v Shock

Spitfire v Justice

[mortal cipher]

Shock@lose lol

[chilly mauve]

Mayhem v Titans

[mortal cipher]

Ok Spitfire Win is That an upset ???

I cant Tell

[chilly mauve]

nah 58% ppl have spitfire winning

[mortal cipher]

Ok

[chilly mauve]

I have Justice winning but that’s my only upset of NA

apac on the other hand lmfao

[mortal cipher]

Defiant has the best chance of upset

[chilly mauve]

Infernal winning against dynasty

And charge over Dallas

[mortal cipher]

Apac is upset city

When is the annual upset city week

[chilly mauve]

Week 1

The pro am kinda changes things tho

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[chilly mauve]

What I remember

[mortal cipher]

Usually it was like middle of the second stage

[chilly mauve]

Is Houston always beats Dallas first playing playing in the season

which is always an upset

[mortal cipher]

Yeah last year they won except semi finals of playoffs

[chilly mauve]

the year before that was …

[mortal cipher]

Danteh casually bearing Hanbin on Zarya

[mortal cipher]

All Dallas

[chilly mauve]

First game wasn’t Dallas but yeah

Those mfers gatekept outlaws from tourneys ALL year long

[mortal cipher]

It was a 3-2 I believe

[mortal cipher]

Fr

[chilly mauve]

Yep!

[mortal cipher]

Houston were also the only Team to beat Shock back to back

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

It was like a 3-2 first time around then it was a 3-1 the second Time

[chilly mauve]

Oh boy

That twilight coalescence

I miss jjanggu

jjanggu and piggy

Getting jiggy with it

[mortal cipher]

Wasn’t that the teleport

[chilly mauve]

yeah

Glister made a tp and broke it like 1 second after

and in that time twilight took it and died

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

That was Rough

I think it was junkertown

[mortal cipher]

I think janngu Military amd we still have piggy Just on the charge

Yeah

[chilly mauve]

Military is 2 years right?

[north relic]

till death if you aren’t a soy

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

Minimum

[plush grail]

Mf is 14

[hot onyx]

JJANGGU can hypothetically come back next year

[worn falcon]

Online games, Desk on studio

mfw

LAN overwatch when

[chilly mauve]

“Zarya has seen some increase in play, especially in APAC.”

We are now entering the hanbin effect

• scrimbux

[worn falcon]

what is the hasbeen effect?

[chilly mauve]

Zarya past, zarya now, zarya future

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/avecle6/status/1651254827261784064

Équipe de France OW 🇫🇷 (@avecle6)

📢 Découvrez votre Équipe de France 2023 🇫🇷
Tous ensemble pour la victoire, aux armes !

🛡️ @poko
🛡️ @BenBest_Ow
⚔️ @Avo_oww
⚔️ @NiCOgdh
⚔️ @Pakk_Ow
💉 @FDGod_OW
💉 @reviewzdps

#Avecle6 #OWWC2023

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Twitter · Apr 26, 2023, 4:00 PM

No nepostism here

i swear

[chilly mauve]

Okay

From scrimbux

meta is very diverse in both regions

Winston ramattra in NA

Zarya and reign in APAC

Sombra tracer viable but also hanzo Ashe

mei is also map dependent but still a pick

Brawl teams might go for sombra reaper (never thought abt this combo)

Zen is back but majority Ana brig

for teams

infernal Atlanta shock Houston Florida glads spark and Dallas are top teams

Defiant too

Boston is doing poorly

Justice is doing ight

London shitting the bed

dragons struggling as well

I’m not gonna change any of my pred cuz I don’t believe in scrimbux

But thoughts nonetheless

some of this may be true cuz I asked speedily the other day for meta and he also said it’s all over the place

Nothing defined

[hot onyx]

what is said about Titans?

[chilly mauve]

“Vancouver Titans - Question marks around Sugarfree have largely dispersed for the experts. Most agree that they can strike up significantly if the meta sways in their favour.”

In the lower middle tier

[hot onyx]

@cloud latch

[chilly mauve]

Top tier: Atlanta

Strong contenders: Florida, outlaws, glads, defiant, shock

Lower middle: Washington, boston, titans, london, nyxl

[sullen berry]

Right what's all this then, surfacing an old charge tweet https://twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/1651248132133466112?t=vBEH4Td0TWSoseIQMrozFQ&s=19

Boston Uprising (@BostonUprising)

Lil bro forgot they threatened to sue their own fanbase because of tweets 💀

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Twitter · Apr 26, 2023, 3:33 PM

[chilly mauve]

Lower tier: valiant and Vegas

[hot onyx]

that tweet was fire idk why it was deleted

[chilly mauve]

and for apac

Infernal look to be the best while Dallas and spark follow closely

I’m not gonna but into these scrimbucks but nonetheless fun to get some info b4hand

[cloud latch]

maybe this might be an actual match...

[hot onyx]

Punk about to get revenge on the team that has been benching him since 2018:

https://tenor.com/view/im-locked-in-mark-phillips-rdcworld1-im-focused-im-honed-in-gif-26500733

[sullen berry]

Boston would agree, but the person on account today is asking for blood for very little interaction

[plush grail]

LMAOOO

He's fed up

All the boston booming jokes got to him

[worn falcon]

all they needed is carpe going valo

[cosmic agate]

I think the one Unique aspect of the OWL is the city names

I've never seen that done before, but I think it invites High Schools and Universities to get involved in a little more than just "big stage games" like in LA

[icy kestrel]

I was about 80% for the Lucio skin I hope I still can get it

[restive forge]

this social media manager shit get deep

[hot onyx]

they are funny because they are true

[restive forge]

overwatch league community after roasting the boston smm because the team they have no power in signed a bad person

[chilly mauve]

Sports do it

[cosmic agate]

Well... yeah lol

I was mainly referring to Esports, it's kind of a big issue with them right now

Not accessible locally unless you're traveling to LA, Chicago, etc

[restive forge]

do u mean like

how reign has atlanta in the name

mayhem has florida

etc

wait nvm

like how outlaws have Houston instead of Texas?

or am i trippin

[limpid grail]

i think thats the primary difference between the whole idea of a franchised esports league and one that came up from grassroots

you are not shoehorned into a pre existing box of a brand or model, but still have basic guidelines to follow

and honestly apart from s1 and 2 very few teams actually signed players who even initially lived in or around the countries or areas referring to their namesake

it's just how sports works

overwatch has the benefit of being completely doable to compete online

[uncut drum]

this is what atp thinks will happen

[cursive cypress]

When they start to send tokens ?

[chilly mauve]

Adenine triphosphate

Mad trippin

he also thinks London will beat Justice

[cursive cypress]

Free tokens already started on 26?

https://www.youtube.com/live/n0bRSD9BXgA?feature=share

[uncut drum]

They will

If London play properly

[cursive cypress]

Someone helps me ?

[north relic]

what do you guys have for this

i think it will be really close

a banger match already

[loud elbow]

if it's the same Reign roster then probably Reign

Lip carries hard

[north relic]

nyxl are a top team though

[loud elbow]

but Reign has Lip one of the best dps' in the league

[cloud latch]

ok but nyxl as aniyun

she will out snipe lip easily

[loud elbow]

I don't think she's going to out-snipe Lip's hanzo ngl

[cloud latch]

debatable

[loud elbow]

If lip gets widow then definitely not

but I do think Reign is definitely winning, either 3-1 or 3-2

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1651354000430710789?s=46

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

Got some new faces joining us for the East Spring Stage Opens 👀

Congratulations to Rhodes, @PokerFace_OW, @Dreamers_OW, and @O2Blast_OW! #OWL2023

Twitter · Apr 26, 2023, 10:34 PM

[static pond]

The tokens will start tomorrow when you tune into the owl matches

[cursive cypress]

Correct time eu is 9 pm?

[restive forge]

unironically reign 3-0

at most nyxl take a map

[red nexus]

boys lets all agree that london spitfires is the best team and leave it there

[restive forge]

backbone can only be the backbone of spitfire for so long

nvm i forgot they have hadi

london winning it all unfortunately

[red nexus]

exactly london #1

[restive forge]

as a german i am legally required to put my entire life savings on the hadi buff

[static pond]

If you download the owl app everything there will be available at your local time

[cursive cypress]

Yeah they said 9 pm

[jaunty veldt]

does owl start tmr

[restive forge]

ye

[mortal cipher]

yeaj

[loud elbow]

02 Blast gonna win tbh

I watched a few games and they honestly have the star power to match even top tier OWL teams

*it's also funny most of the former O2 Blast members go on to be absolute megastars

[north relic]

????

[loud elbow]

unpopular opinion but I will die on the hill lol

[north relic]

unpopular for a good reason

[static pond]

Alright then there your answer

[restive forge]

this cant be a real opinion real human beings have

they match mid teams maybe

good enough to place middle

[restive forge]

Im a big fan of poker face ngl

I think they do good in this

[chilly mauve]

I like Rhodes more

Aprita Pineapple such a underrated dps line

aprita had Chengdu issues last season while pineapple was on bench for alphayi

[restive forge]

true

[fast tusk]

torontos new hype intro is so dope, i need to find that song they used its sounds so good

[restive forge]

link

ill see if i can find it

[fast tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LMl0UK55hE

[restive forge]

found it

https://youtu.be/c_OPrHS1wmc

@fast tusk

[fast tusk]

ahh thx alot man

[restive forge]

np

[chilly mauve]

That’s fire

wish more teams would sorta do it like them

[restive forge]

facts

need the owl to just get on top of all the branding potential they have

[fast tusk]

fr

[restive forge]

half these teams need a recolor

vegas needs a entire rebrand

[limpid grail]

another another rebrand

[restive forge]

no reason to be eternal still

with same logo and colors

[chilly mauve]

They are starting at 12 pst (convert to ur time zone)

There is no tracker to see any sort of progress

@sullen berry I know this is a ballsy request and idk if u can make it happen but there should be another channel for all the drops information that way people can just look at that to find the info

[stray pond]

I HAVE BEEN UNLEASHEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

UNMUTED AT LASTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

RIGHT BEFORE OWL TOO

i spent double points on mayhem against vegas

i reckon it was a good idea no?

just hoping mayhem wont drop a map

chats ded

bruh

[chilly mauve]

yeah that’s the best option for double points

Any good team vs Vegas

Houston valient is good too

Reign valient

Mayhem valient

We finally get to see Jake again

This time on the desk

oh boy

[stray pond]

vegas exists just o give free tokens

lmao

whodja pick for crystal ball?

i picked houston,shock and fuel

im still kinda on the fence for my last pick tho

i think dynasty is a safe option but im not sure

[modern crypt]

Does OWL play on Twitch or just Youtube? Is one recommended over the other?

[stray pond]

just YT they used to stream on twitch but they signed a deal with YT

YT sucks tho its not meant for streaming

everyone prefers twitch

[chilly mauve]

Isn’t it 2 for apac?

[stray pond]

yeah i said im on the fence for who the pick for APAC

[chilly mauve]

I picked Houston shock, infernal and spark

Oh mb I didn’t see that

I can leak some scrimbux about apac if u want

[stray pond]

U DARE UNDERESTIMATE THE FUELLLLLLLLLL THEY STILL HAVE THEIR CHAMPIONSHIP COREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[chilly mauve]

I’m biased to mn3

[stray pond]

MCD AND BLISS MAY BE DOWNGRADES BUT THE REST OF THE TEAM IS GOATEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[chilly mauve]

And scrimbucks seem to be backing me up

infernal is apparently really fucking good rn looking like the best in apac

[stray pond]

hm

[chilly mauve]

While Dallas and spark are close behind

[stray pond]

to me infernal seems on par with dynasty rn

but we havant seen any official matches yet so

[chilly mauve]

mn3>phrophet

Zest has the potential to be better than profit rn

backline is miles better

[stray pond]

i bet 2-3 to dynasty for the east region match

[stray pond]

doubt it but we'll just have to wait and see no?

[chilly mauve]

yeah

But I mean

Dynasty has krillin on main support

[stray pond]

i mean yeah but dps carry is u know

rly important

whether that alone can let dynasty win

well

we'll juts have to see

should be a goated match tho

im HYPED for glads vs outlaws tho

i think outlaws will take it

but hey

we'll just haveta see

[chilly mauve]

nah it’s gonna be closer than u think

ramattra is still quite viable

although Houston does have time to prepare for it so that might help their odds

[stray pond]

yeah i bet 2-3 to outlaws

[chilly mauve]

I still have outlaws winning cuz I just can’t pred against them

[stray pond]

its gon be a close match

[stray pond]

but winton meta is most likely

and u know whos the GOAT when it comes to monke

[chilly mauve]

Winston is prob the best however ramattra is still good on hybrid and payload

And in apac

Zarya is fucking meta

hanbin effect is what I call it

[stray pond]

legit?

[chilly mauve]

I mean Dallas are gonna be forcing zarya

[stray pond]

interesting how different the meta is just by being in another region

[chilly mauve]

in scrims

more teams start to run zarya as well as they lose to Dallas

[stray pond]

yeah hanbin never rly played monke whos the premier pick rn

so ig makes sense dallas i trying out other metas

[chilly mauve]

for dps

tracer is the must pick

[stray pond]

mm?

[chilly mauve]

Sombra is good Ashe is good hanzo is good

[stray pond]

mm hm

i wanna see GENJI GET BUFFED

I WANNA SEE THE CRACKED GENJI PLAY

[chilly mauve]

never gonna happen

[stray pond]

THE MOVES

THE DRAGONBLADES

[chilly mauve]

It’s more of other characters getting nerfed so he becomes viable

[stray pond]

THE DASH CHAINS

I WANNA SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[chilly mauve]

Pelicans playing genji on stream rn

[stray pond]

SPARKLE

POP

OFF

[stray pond]

oh lol

his echo play is always fun to watch

[chilly mauve]

echo is never fucking meta anymore

After that Ult nerf

[stray pond]

the tank nerf

[chilly mauve]

I want an echo meta again…

My ideal meta would be Winston echo Ashe Ana zen

idk how that would work but it would be fun

[stray pond]

i want a brawl meta

[chilly mauve]

no

I don’t want London getting good again

[stray pond]

whadya have agasint their reinhardt rush

[chilly mauve]

Danteh will struggle on rein

[stray pond]

ig

[chilly mauve]

Winston metas are infinitely better

[stray pond]

i mean doom meta

[chilly mauve]

doom is good too

[stray pond]

doom is fun to watch

[chilly mauve]

A wild danteh has been found in pelicans chat (along with shu)

[sullen berry]

It's called a thread, ask a moderator about a locked read only thing. Or check the pins, they haven't been updated in a while

[solar raft]

Does anyone know if I leave the page the overwatch live stream will be on on YouTube if it will start automatically when the stream starts? It's at 4am for me and don't want to be awake at that time to get the rewards

[wild condor]

what are the owl drops going to be??

[restive forge]

Count down to shock vs toronto is on the owl website. At the top https://www.overwatchleague.com/en-us/

[gleaming estuary]

Shanghai dragons

[restive forge]

are mid

[gleaming estuary]

What team do you support

[restive forge]

reign

[gleaming estuary]

Fair

[restive forge]

im only hating bc the gf 4-0

[sullen berry]

Just open the stream dude but you need to have your computer running at all times, no stanby

winton

[sullen berry]

[uncut drum]

that was just after the news of the block

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65378617

[iron lake]

Support q times 7+ Mins and tank/dps less than 1 for me??

The world has fallen of its axis

[balmy wolf]

Houston will never win the OWL

[icy kestrel]

Because mayhem will

[sullen berry]

Only because it only took Seoul + Dallas five years and Vancouver five weeks

Shu silently carrying the Overwatch League is going strong even into his 5th season in OWL

[placid fern]

do bren and sideshow cast this game? i know some valorant casters casted in OWL 2022 finals

oh it must have been achillios

[devout path]

Bren and sideshow used to cast this game

Now they cast valorant

[placid fern]

yeah i thought so ty

[devout path]

Achillios casts both I believe

[placid fern]

yeah

[normal dirge]

g

[plush grail]

Hey bestieee

[sullen berry]

Blocked message

https://twitter.com/YiskaOut/status/1651503231845924864?t=LtdMP0TEsUtZkR1jnTfjWQ&s=19

Yiska (@YiskaOut)

14 presumably scrimbux-hating bookmarks and I'm doubling down

Scrimbux-infused end-of-season ranking update

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Twitter · Apr 27, 2023, 8:27 AM

This is bait right

I showed a bunch of people rating Infernal higher than Hangzhou and this is the most turned off he's been since Philadelphia Fusion folded

[cloud latch]

it's bait

because philly can't get 1st

or seoul infernal

[north relic]

this is 100% believable

I can see infernal fucking

[cloud latch]

ykw you may be right

I mean

they do have fixa

and a dps line that shouldn't hold him back

[hot onyx]

Philly Fusion walked so Seoul Infernal could run

[placid fern]

over dallas and spark?

[cloud latch]

maybe

[north relic]

yes

[cloud latch]

they transfered the 2nd place curse to shock

👀

[hot onyx]

someone's gotta be the orange team in 2nd

2020 Fusion
2021 Chengdu
2022 Shock

[cloud latch]

2018 fusion as well

[hot onyx]

two of them don't exist anymore so Shock gets it by default

[placid fern]

also im new to OWL pick ems? for crystal ball i went outlaws and mayhem and spark and dynasty (ik ik)

[hot onyx]

DYNASTY?

[placid fern]

yes

trust

their dps duo is great, i know the backline isnt the best but i have hopes

[hot onyx]

the worst hitscan in apac and an old man isn't exactly great imo

[placid fern]

same name buff

[hot onyx]

although i respect the drive

[placid fern]

profit and prophet

[sullen berry]

You joke but philly walked so Infernal could run. It's technically the Roston's 2nd year with an MN3 Zest Fixa core and they will explode at the start of this midseason

[hot onyx]

OGE and Ojee would also be a one sided duo

same with Xzi and Exy

[cloud latch]

ksp ksf

adam atom

[placid fern]

also why is dallas still called that?

they dont have to change names despite changing regions?

[hot onyx]

if owl is still relevant in 2024 they probably go back to na

[sullen berry]

Tell that to the LA Valiant or Vancouver Titans who didn't get the message in 2021 and 2020 respectively.

[limpid grail]

imagine destroying burn blue

[stone lark]

[worn falcon]

philly infernal finally have chances

[last beacon]

who did yall put for the 4 teams that are gonna advance?

[cosmic agate]

Hello all! I am a student at Harrisburg University. I need some folks to respond to this Esports survey: https://forms.office.com/r/PnhRBY82cw

It would be greatly appreciated! Plus you get to talk about Esports 😉

[cedar oasis]

No

Pay me for it

[hot onyx]

https://twitter.com/TeamNorwayOW/status/1651602112508198914?s=20

Ragnarok | Team Norway 🇳🇴 (@TeamNorwayOW)

So you thought he was gone? Think again.

There’s no denying the O.G.

@Onigod ⚔️🇳🇴

#Ragnarok #OWWC2023

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Twitter · Apr 27, 2023, 3:00 PM

@plush grail

"there's no denying the OG" bros about to get denied a spot past groups

[chilly mauve]

It’s not the rebranding that changed infernal curse

It’s Carpe

and now he’s gone

They have a shot at getting first

[balmy wolf]

Vancouver and Seoul have never won a OWL.

[chilly mauve]

Only 4 teams have lmfao

[balmy wolf]

Maybe he was thinking trophy

[chilly mauve]

if u don’t want to include stage championships

[balmy wolf]

He must be thinking trophy

Even then Houston have never won a trophy either

What a shit org

[cloud latch]

kevin gap and majed gap

[karmic charm]

carpe cant have been the issue

because t1 arent 2nd in vct pacific

and with carpe they got 17th-32nd 💀

[wet storm]

welp…today marks the 7th season of being a dallas fuel fan. crazy how time flies

[chilly mauve]

7th?

This is the 6th season

somethings not adding up

[sullen berry]

Preseason dumny

Those are the real fans who count one more than there are seasons

[wet storm]

2017-2023 = 7

[sullen berry]

You want to run by those numbers again

We're in season 6 of the Overwatch League starting today

[wet storm]

preseason started 2107 no?

2017

in theory, yes 6th season, but in terms of years, 7

i confused myself a little bit

[sullen berry]

We're 4 months into the year, so we haven't reached 8 let alone a whole 7 years

[wet storm]

at the time i posted that, i had just woken up. i appear to have made a mistake. cut me some slack lmao

[sullen berry]

I haven't slept all

[wet storm]

i won’t sleep at all going into the 29th cause that’s when the east starts. i’m ready

[sullen berry]

Gotta give the East time to work out if Infernal are really as big as the scrims say

And if Dallas moving to the East has regressed their world champ status as much as Shanghai

Or worse

[wet storm]

i’m just watching the fuel and heading to bed

[sullen berry]

Chengdu

[wet storm]

my main concern is MCD

[worn falcon]

Disappearing like Chengdu

[worn falcon]

So glads next season as the owners don't want anything esports related

[wet storm]

the first match should be a banger. new look defiant vs the shock. going to be an absolute banger

[sullen berry]

They want out, it's forgivable given their generous contributions.

Heesang and proper are just a gap between Hydron and speedily

[worn falcon]

Like being a top team and never win a tourney ...yet

THREEPEAT SHOCK HERE WE GO

[loud elbow]

I can fix the east region in a nutshell.

1. Dallas Fuel
2. Shanghai Dragons
3. Hangzhou Spark

Dragons and Spark can be interchanged

[wet storm]

three peat?

does he know

[loud elbow]

but Dragons do have a better looking roster on paper

[wet storm]

unless for whatever reason you don’t count the 2022 season

[placid fern]

i have no clue what the OWL instructors or whatevevr were thinking

no twitch sucks so much

[wet storm]

nekkra

[normal badger]

Tokens are available right?

[placid fern]

YT is buggy asf sometimes

[loud elbow]

twitch is ass cheeks

[placid fern]

whatever ig

better then YT

lol

[loud elbow]

twitch actively cuts pay from it's streamers

[wet storm]

it’s better for esports

[loud elbow]

Youtube doesn't really do it

[placid fern]

is that an issue for a esport company

blizzard

esport broadcast

not company*

[loud elbow]

considering that the amount of pay that gets cut is pretty high for a streaming platform, yes.

[placid fern]

I just dont get why

they have streamed on twitch in the past

[loud elbow]

Youtube has also improved significantly when it comes to streaming

[placid fern]

almost all other big esport games do

[wet storm]

the challengers series was really good

[placid fern]

the only thing I see yt being better is yyou can rewind

thats it

i thiink NYXL take 1 map off boston

[loud elbow]

I don't think NYXL is going to be good this year ngl

[sly fog]

new desk kinda fire. Better than that trailer from last season

[placid fern]

I think they'll be a dark horse hopefully

🙏

[loud elbow]

they have some great players but they just have more and better competition

especially Reign

[wet storm]

my hot take: dallas goes b2b

[placid fern]

they dont make it but they can make some upsets

[loud elbow]

Dallas is definitely the best team in the East region rn

[placid fern]

i'd argue spark honestly

[loud elbow]

I see Dallas and Spark sets being competitive af

[wet storm]

spark has the better MT, but dallas is better at every other role

[upbeat crater]

New season owl studio is legit

[placid fern]

its mainly gonna be how the new support duo fits into dallas

W TAKE

W

[upbeat crater]

They have a real desk + a magic tv you can draw on

[placid fern]

boston internally sux

[loud elbow]

We're either going to get Spark vs Shock this year or Shock vs Fuel again

[placid fern]

and they arent even top tier

like