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It could be, but you're saying this as if it were fact that shock org have said this
thus leadng me to believe
are trying to prove themselves
they dislike the pro am
the fact that shock has not said any promotional stuff on the pro ams
Shock 5 minute hold point 2 incoming?
like beforehand
Is not evidence
Shock fan cope 🥱
@glacial wadi
Proper sucks
WUB GOAT
lip is better
Hmmm as a fellow ATL fan
Is lip really your dad?
what do you think
yes
I heard he had a secret child
Lmao
and discord users are at least 10 years old
you have really lost all patience with this chat havent u 😭
Yea lip is my dad we are the same height
Going to be the greatest OW5 player
lip being 5'2
is quite embrassing
IMO
That is so cool
Unreal from cuffa
maybe but his child cant be a teenager
Congratulations!!!
MTD
for context lip is like 6'7
and lsd is like 5'6 on a good day
Did cal already kitsune, or why has he barely got half his ult
no he didnt
cals dying a lot
also not getting a lotta peel
Finn didn't die in final fight for the point
cause neptune sucks
if ur getting harassed by proper
you won't have a lotta ult charge
lmaooo
What a bad kitsune
Cuffa was a bit ambitious to primal there too lmao
rip cuffa
Man the green looks so nice with all the abilities
I mean why would you swap to doom there when you have nano ready, nano doom in there just doesn't get things done like Winston wouldve
Enemy over here!
prob experimentating
no logical reason to try doom
other than they wanna try it
for the sake of trying
No, they weren't able to make it work third point so you swap comp, which is valid, but the Winston didn't need to switch, tracer sombra was enough
curious to see how timeless does on attack here
Doom is just so inconsistent and so meh rn
also cause 200 oing doom
is impossible
trying to hit a punch
and u teleport
instead
point b is where shock dominates normally tho
Yep
They can hold for ages there
If they break through that
I think they get the win on the map
The caster sounds like he's drowning lmao
So are teams just starting pharah mercy to try to get ult charge from a rocket and swap?
Why are they doing it
I suppose it could work better than widow for that purpose
ok i have decided.
Considering they just hide from the widow pick at the start
proper is the goat
proper on tracer heesang on flex does seem a bit more intuitive
eh i mean
heesangs tracer was rlly good in contenders
As good as proper is, nano Winston there would've been better
It was fine yesterday too
logically in sojourn tracer
proper should play sojourn
and heesang should be on tracer
but heesangs better flex imo
heesang sucks
his sojourn isnt near top 5
Oh damn
propers sojourn is top 3 bare minimum
Wub with the Muppet moves
Heesang flex proper tracer is better I think
depends on the meta a
probably
Lip shy Edison (fr fr)
Edison hydron proper
ok
Double flex is hard to navigate
Edison idk about top 3
Timeless going to have to play very well on this point now
Wtf do you mean
lip is objectively top 1 sojourn
he's not
Edison’s good but not too 3
depends on the day
He is
the best player to ever touch the game
depending on their days
This is such cap, plsss, if Edison wasn't top 3 Dallas fuel wouldn't have been so dominant last owl
ain’t no way
one player doesn’t make a full roster unless it’s proper
they weren't dominant
last owl
LOL
cal is carrying so hard
There was a clear gap between top 2 and the rest
in playoffs yes
but tbf coluge Mikey kilo striker violet were all pretty good
Timeless strat makes sense
They have no time left when they get to each point
They are literally timeless
I specified last owl for play offs because playoffs was where it was sojourn meta
idk im not watching i just got on
sojorun was meta after stage 1 lol
is junbin dva good
stage 2 3 4 and playoffs
I don't understand the dva
probably just to contest Winston more but it’s interesting
shock won a game
thats why i dont think shock are trying
Yes but there's a big difference between playing zarya reaper where zarya was very strong and playing banana rush
ggs
heesang sombra kinda nasty
what a momentous occasion
stage 2 sojourn was meta
Well done shock for finally beating a contenders team
You miss my point
Heesang somber pretty nice
bro just proving what I said
Did you not read what I said
Shock gets shit on if they lose people think they should’ve won if they win
That was way too close for a contenders team.
Yeah kiriko was probably more broken
and bananan rush
Rush was the best ult in the game
Sojourn was also insane tho
Proper pretty good on 200 ping who woulda thought
cracked lung peli better imo
The entire finals was literally just a battle of sojourns, thinking anything else is unreal
combine the two
make lip play with half an eye
?
wow
Actually I agre
that is a take
if its a battle of sojourns why did dallas win playoffs when shock clearly had the better sojourn
lol sure but fearless did so much more than mikeyy in that grand finals
and fielder had much better ults as well
There's actually a pretty good video on it by akshan
like obviously its not whos the better sojourn
💀 IM DEADDDD
AKSHANNNNNN
😭
what was their analysis
im j joshing he has decent content sometimes
it probably was that sojourn wasnt the only thing that matters
Keep in mind the entire comp was built around kiriko
If you watch a lot of the matches back a lot of it came down to misused suzus and support mistakes
Man I really want Vancouver to bottle it against Shock
The TLDR is that Dallas kept trying to shut down Proper whilst shock just did everything they could to enable proper. In the end dallas fuel changed how they played to protect edison
Shock have to win 2-0 to stay in huh
and reaper a lot
It would be a great meme if 200 ping got through
suzu soj shot means a lot reaper meat shots mean a lot bubble was huge and boops were necessary
You are right, theres a lot of shit in it thats just cringe, surface level reddit analysis, and a lot of it is cherry picking, but the main idea of the vid is right
meat shots
meat
the 150 dmg shots
Rip patiphan's wrist
are u stuck in season 5
this isnt battle of sojourns then though
what does patis wrist have anything to do with any teams
also i agree
rip pati wrist
Howso? Its both teams trying to enable their sojourns as much as possible to hard carry
so then its a battle of teams
how is dallas trying to enable their sojourn
Why are you nit picking my stand alone comment. Go touch grass
u just said they tried to deny proper
im asking how thats relevant to this conversation
Its big brain time
or this channel
It's not about your conversation
By putting more effort into peeling for edison instead of trying to shut down proper
tbh they dont care about edison
Junbin allergic to scientist

Finn's camera hahaha
I mean you're right, there's far more things than just 1 player that contributes to a win, but this is out of the scope of my point. My point is that the defining factor in terms of the compositions was playing around the sojourn compared to any other hero
1/4 Finn
wait is that a body pilow
3/4 background
it was a pillow of tanjiro and nezuko
Also why is danny constantly 240p
also by the way
in overwatch season 1
here were the top 5 teams in the pro season tournament/scrims
top 5 teams from OWL 2018 pre season
Seoul
Dallas/LAV
London
NYXL
Im so sad Dallas Fuel moved to the East, I need to find a new team to fill the gap in my heart
seoul dallas and valiant all looked to be elite in the pro season
didnt custa say
in scrims they knew they were shit
in the reg season
like coming in before reg season
Finn brutally honest
maybe? but like still
i mean its correct answers
Yes
like he knows the team doesnt look good
some of it isnt excued by ping
but a lot of it is
Also this is more meme than anything, and not actually any sort of solid evidence as its a random NA comp game, but this is edison's sojourn https://youtu.be/eN8Ly_q4l7Y?t=97 and its disgusting
all of these o2 players
just go to discord calls w each other
and play games
during off szn
and when they were in korea
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wait
im goated
view timestamp
ok
Alright here's the big question, what do you think Koreas starting roster will be for the World Cup
i dont think its a big question at all
I need a team to play with me and help me and my freind get better
Proper my beloved getting pressure
thoughts on picking edison for HS
Alright then whats the starting 5
5 propers and hanbin
I can see it, agreege
bigger question is
sparkle instead of proper
No feedjaegon or izayaki or shushep?
which korea loses to china/US
its rush he prefers fielder
i think
like korea #7
4th korea
loses to china usa
you can make 3-4 korea teams that all would win the world cup
I prefer fearless over smurf and edison over proper, but I'm biased
Fearless isn't flexible as Smurf tbh
edison lip will still win most metas
but if its double flex dps
theyre fucked
and usa will win
What would pick USA?
probably all of AT
American tornado again?
yea
Lol
seems like it
Ram Hanzo Mei meta very popular in east scrims supposedly though, and I have no idea who good ram hanzo mei players are
lol its the east scrimbs
for that
Yaki the goat
not sure how that translates
but hanzo mei is double proj
its prolly shock running hanzo mei
or maybe dynasty
im struggling
Maybe Fleta?
fleta is bad
bliss
and also MS is incredibly lobby filler
viol2t/leejaegon
would both be fine as well
depending which one u prefer
and also fletas a tank player now
so hes not playing mei hanzo
TIL
Korea have so many to pick
ok does korea 4 lose
Unlike EU players
depends on the meta
also better to put proper on hitscan
I'd rather have fate than max
and put another fdps instead of proper
bro just didnt watch 2022 shanghai
I dont rate max at all
fate was one of the reasons lip lost to proper in playoffs
Korea 1 it's kinda fucked if your only tank is hasbeen
thats cause you've never heard of max
you dont have to rate max at all
before this season
And fate is one of the "better" ball players in the east
a lot
hes really not
anymore
hes kinda bad now
like really bad now
Max ball >
I put better in quotes because Im struggling to think of other ball players in east, smurf?
fearless' ball is a kekw
ga9a
Ameng, ga9a
ahhh gaga, I forgot
And a DPS as support
shanghais cooked
They have money
Man it's actually painful seeing mikeyy on a doglow contenders team
How far he's fallen
lol only cause squid
is absolute dogwater
if cjay stayed
saints would be good
didnt vega lose to warn in a tourney
samito im p sure
also he got owl offers
but didnt chose to play
he did the smart choice
on those teams
despite his previous actions
Oh, weird I wonder why
I'm guessing one of those offers were vanc
cause he wouldnt win anything on those teams
and getting college degrees
are much more important
than a min wage job
Naaa, owl pro sets you up for life /s
Wtf was that sojourn slide lmao
Does higher seed pick first map or is it completely random
Feels like London just walked forwards and saints just fell over
Cass headshots just look so satisfying
Beat engaging into them??
It works but no idea how
I guess immediate emp is a grief
king kinda rly chokes under the pressure
when it’s collective as a team, he’s okay
but when the pressure is on him
I mean that wasn't a choke, was just a super lazy set up with his translocator
it's just slightly under the necessary value
That Lucio skin looks so vibrant for spitfire
Ngl when I see the spitfire logo bottom left I keep thinking it's the Aldi logo lmao
Exact same colour scheme
I hope saints manage a full cap
I want a map 3
This isn't going to be a full cap saints are so uncoordinated and mechanically gapped
Like why is tracer and sombra following Winston about and then they all run forwards, why is there no set up whatsoever
Sombra goes in, gets forced out in under half a second, then Mikey jumps in, primals to survive jumps out all whilst sombra is running back from tp'ing out, like what
What on earth was this last fight madness
Wtfff
HOLY MOLY
What a push
holy fuck
This is a really good match
how did hadi manage
Is this caster an auctioneer?
😂😂
i rly wanna see another angle of that
I just wish the guns looked better man
Lucio OW2 gun is so boring
Yea they are man
Spitfire going to full cap this
Or do they press 5 ults
Sheesh, 9 ults in that fight
yeah idk bout saints getting a snowball like that
im betting they arent even getting first
Yeah they get rolled in 2 fights
Maybe like 2 ticks
No ticks no percentage whatsoever
WAIT
Told you
That's going to be on mikeyys highlight reel
YOOOO
How does anyone get a triple? Boop on Blizzard world of all maps lmao
WHAAAAT
MIKEYYY
Hadi choke doesn't primal
Mannnn
Probably for the best though
nah hadi is fine on holding it
talk about fucking DOG FIGHTS
It's over
Gg
wow
Hell of a match
Mayhem and Spitfire would be a crazy match rn
Factsssss
Someone and Hadi on the Winston mirror would be a good watch
Who and Hadi?
Ye who?
Someone
? Not gonna tell me?
hello excuse me but I watched on youtube on the overwatch league channel entirely on day 1 of the competition but it's now been more than 48 hours and I still have no tokens on the game I wanted to know if anyone is in the same case as me thank you
There are no tokens for pan am, gj on wasting electricity 

Ah
the florida tank
Thanks
someone would roll hadi
like I'm a spitfire fan
but from what we have seen in proam
the monkey mirror wouldn't be close tbh
Hey i play genji like a god
Why would you want 5 Tokens per hour
When you could earn codes for 150 OWL Tokens

two big reasons
For slow members and archivists
Slow meme-rs
Like say if badpachi Aro was to compile every L T the end of the season, you don't have to search or scroll down forever in October
Trialling more like
Not given up the ghost
Possible nepotism buff as a great scrim partner if he doesn't make it
Codes should've been multi use tbh
.
he should be trying out for tank 
150 hp huh
whats with the views? is league dead?
not the official start of the season + no drops
duality of man
pretty much none of the teams advertised it
wtf is happening
i ve just read that half of he teams are suing the league
La glads leave next season
yeah no one has a reason to buy glads
and Chengdu hunters went bankrupt or something
owls just not popular enough to ever be worth buying a team
looks like its league's last season tbh
plus the format is terrible
only 2 tournaments
Bro the league just talked about every support except for Reign supports in the star supports section. I truly believe they hate my team😂😂
yeah it depends how the official season shapes out, right now its looking rough
I think Reign is gonna be a good team this year but bring the mayhem for me
No it is not necessarily about that. It is just the fact they don’t even mention Vigilante, fielder or chiyo that is absolutely insane to me
Those are legit the best 3 performing supports so far
vancouver wins
reign wins
mayhemn wins
saints win
trick room wins
so whoever wins makes it no?
unless trick room beats mayhem and timeless
bro the bots tweakin
that just felt like a comp diff rip
Titans got rolled
bastion ult actually killing someone in OWL imagine 💀
I am not impressed by titans at all. I didn’t think they looked impressive against Mayhem aswell. Let’s hope their second map is better
99-99 is very poor
you gotta be a really shit team to not make a koth rush mirror round not be close
me when i don't watch the match being one team fight away on each map from being a Titans 2-0 win
I did watch the titans mayhem match
Mayhem game
I specifically thought their Hollywood didn’t look good
kinda slow yk yk
Not necessarily saying their control was bad
tactical pause killed their momentum
in the end this tournaments just not reflective of real season so its jsut not that big of a deal
Titans were at a 99-99 on antarctic
yeah i was confused
Well yeah but also really poor decision making. People they Nanod at not great times and also not the right nano player
boostio was an accident imo
Forcing nano dps on Hollywood all map and didn’t work
nano cass is just stupid though
They nanod aspire twice and nanod tracer
Genuinely don’t like that at all
same amount of shots required to kill Squishies
If they nano Winston they win fights that they lost against mayhem
nanos also really good at keeping momentum tho
or even Faith brig nano would've had more value
than hs nano
that's just a Crimzo moment though
I have been noticing that titans do that a lot. Just not worth nanoing the dps all the time
Just like nano the tank
if you lose cass too early in a fight you just lose
It ain’t that hard
tanks definitely the ideal target 99% of the time
100%
That’s the point I am making
I don’t like the call to keep on nanoing dps. They have been doing it for the last 4 games. Idk if the coaches say this or that Crimzo just thinks nano dps is better but I don’t like the call
HOG???
just jump :)
well see how this goes
did force the swap pretty early
nano tracer again :)
punk staying in the bubble
these casters are so boring to listen to
bring in the contenders casters for owl matches
somebody please tell Aspire he is so much better on pretty much any hero that isn't hanzo
no phone even during downtime :/
I feel like sugerfree needs to be a bit more aggressive
sugarfrees playing fine i think
But aspire shouldt be playing hanzo
i think theyre struggling more with maintaining space after taking it
Holy C9
so shock is +2 idk what titans are
didn't lose to a contenders team though so i am happy with that
so it comes down to if trick room can beat mayhem
well and timeless but idk whats gonna go on there
Timeless are 0-3
trick room still plays them today
I am really not impressed by Titans this pro am
if trick room beats them and mayhem then mayhem and trick room make bracket if trick room loses to either of them its shock mayhem
They played really poorly today
titans have been a bit meh so far
Shock wasn’t even playing that good. But aight ggs to Shock
but it’s still just pro am
1st person to do me a quick and easy favor gets nitro (USA only)
True I expected much more from titans
reserving official opinions for when season actually starts
Bro not you to
Junbin better than max smh
I mean true
yeah wait for real season to make any actual judgments
everyone loves free nitro
Meta is much more mt favored tbh
also the fact that punk selected hog on KR and said yes this is good and then continued to only hook dva
lip owns everyone
you just have to believe
and create your own reality
If TR wins their games now that means they beat shock right?
if they win mayhem and timeless they do
where philly
they have to win both
Brig brain move
Mayhem throwing
xD
infernal has the soul
Just trust fixa
finn ?
Alex "FiXa" Jackson the goar
how can anyone not love finn loll
Kwon "FiXa" Yeong-hun the boat
i think there are plenty of people whod want to have their lives ruined by ana
🤨
if valiant ends up with a coach they could actually be a pretty alright team
does anyone have Val winning
well even paint their way to the top
just curious
no
in theory
Seeker beating lip
Almost
lip teares
its ok seekers got him map 2 for sure
perfectly even munbers
it was the whole map not /10
Map was maybe 8 minutes anyway
BRUH
seekin time
hanzo diff
real
yes, but every time he used ult he had to just hold block with no healing
not that i can remember
I haven’t seen one but I haven’t watched all the games
dmg duo STIP carry 🙂
bro theyre talking about 22 eternal like they were contenders the whole time
just join a watch party
gg valiant
gg big upset
ggs
trick room mayhem is gonna be sick
so excited for tr mahyem
lip being an mvp again, smh
tr said they were cooking up some stuff so itll be cool to see what they go for
leave will show him who the true mvp is
You mean Kwon "FiXa" Yeong-hun
infekted is not in the game rn, if infekted was actually doing anything tr would be doing a lot better
What are the contender teams?
🦍>
mayhem at spawn doors again 
lmao
I just started watching the league I really never knew what is going on
infekted being a meme lord
well there goes our chances of a shockless tourney
That was the most one sided match ive seen
thats it for group a right?
mayhem timeless was more one sided imo
mayhem and shock
Is there leagues being given
Wait all todays games are done?
no
there's two more matches isn't there?
timeless and anotehr contendies is playing last
Bring the Mayhem
timeless and trick room are the last match
But trick room are out no matter what
eternal?
Ye
Where it’s the full roster for all teams?
saints play eternal yeah
So everyone in is Mayhem, Shock and Reign, Spitfire
liquipedia
Where can i see the standings?
cuz they played better that day than today
liquipedia
infekted wasn't really doing much in this match
Bro really emoted mid game 💀
Ping and timezone diff
He was throwing playing rein into ram 1st point of Nepal
i dont know why people dont realize this but teams can play better one day and worse the next, also other teams can watch their vods and figure them out
copium
Can u link it in dms?
Valiant got smacked too 💀
stood no chance
lip too good 🤩
Although, I do have high hopes for valiant later on with more practice together. They kinda lacking that synergy
mayhem are looking very nice
exictied to see what they can pull off in the actual season
100%! You think saints gonna beat eternal?
yes
I’m actually amazed of how many contenders teams have made it tbh
The gap is still massive between a contenders team between owl teams 😪
And the scores next to the names are the amount of wins/losses?
yes
standing, team name, games won/loss, maps won/loss, map differential
if their is a tie
they look at map differential
They play 4 games?
they still gotta get through the titans that are the Outlaws right now lol if they meet them in the quarters
one thing u should know
the more u expect outlaws to win
the less likely they will win
Who’s the oldest guy in the league?
let's face it though, Shu and Viol2t together make for a fucking deadly support combo
it'll be 2020-2021 gladiators on sterioids
steroids*
Who yall supporting?
last year it was masaa i think
idk who it is this year
maybe danteh?
I believe my boy Lastro will push the glads
to atleast a top 5 team
Houston Outlaws >>>>
outlaws and glads
Kevster doesn't have to solely carry his team damage wise, he has Lastro with him
My boys in red :)
reign>
London
Reign looking strong aswell
Reign is stacked bro
Danteh has a good monkey right? I don’t remember much other than doom from him last szn
They havent lost a single map
shoutout to sauna tho, playing after just landing 💀
ehhh
Rip
its enough to get u by
danteh barely practiced rein cuz he doesnt believe rein will be hard meta
and alot of other players arent that great on rein either
I wouldn’t imagine rein meta comes around
I just feel like if you want the brawly play style ram is better for it rn
I got Vegas in this
the pause of them making sure the other person has finished talking
Plus the stream delay between each other
during the offseason
Ramattra is a femboy
That’s really the only thing I’m worried about for the outlaws not that their tanks are bad but I have no idea watch to expect from the Houston tanks
fearless and gargoyle??
They have fearless?
lmao
houston has
fearless and gargoyle for their tanks
pelican happy for dps
shu and violet for support
their weakness would be happys flexibility/inconsistency
I feel like this meta is going to heavily favor Danteh though, so who knows
is ram meta? or winston
since Danteh is known for winston
I feel like he will be alright
HUH
right now is Ram brawl or winston meta
He’s known for doom silly
ram is meta
since when has danteh been known for his winston
Eternal 0-3 LMAO
Rip the Vegas boys
I love the comp rn, the meta changed depending on the map
they really gonna get stomped huh
yo its torb bastion
Can we agree to replace eternal with TR rn?
good because bastion can be healed by torb hammer
In the regular szn
fr
how old is tr33?
15
almost 16
TR is out of the bracket now
Hi guys
He’s a freshman? God damn
bracket is locked for group a and b
born in 2007 lol
I’m in school rn
It would have been funny if shock didn’t make it
aces high
I wonder if shock can get their visas before the next stage of the tourney
i really want to see these emea contendies play
with their pharah against owl
na is boring
NA is always boring in every esport I feel
emea? What’s that
europe middle east africa
teams peps and twisted minds made it out from that region
vegas really boutta go 0-4
oh jesus, saints is putting on a show agst vegas
k1ng mvp of this match
💀 losing to a contenders team is wild bro
vegas gonna be 0-4 while trick room 1-3 and saints 2-2 💀
saints shoulda touched spawn doors 🤭
😭 pulled a mayhem
damn eternal is getting one sided
can we replace eternal with saints in owl?
literally 💀
All of saints gonna be on OWL teams soon? 👀
eternal should’ve been dissolved a long time ago
Some of them rejected owl offers
To do collegiate
Yeah its confirmed for mikeyy
Interesting
But hes not the only one
what would the upside be to do collegiate over pro?
when contenders pay more for winners than OWL itself
Playing on a budget roster that will lose every game is not better than getting a free college education while also playing ow competetively
Ohh gotcha
not the reaper swap LMAO
vegas struggling too much they gotta play counters and are STILL losing
KING JUST MELEEING BRIG LOL
Wtf going on
Malthel mvp candidate
2020 paris would DOMINATE current vegas
Malthel ass
my team is going winless in a tourney that has literal contenders players
ur team was a contenders team not long ago

