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"i do not know who is on this team but i am going to give you my opinion on where they should be ranked"
my list has a couple of blistering takes according to the masses so i am surprised that Toronto of all things is what caught your eye
no like
i know the roster
i know the players
but idk how they played on american tornado
so im judging based just on the players
i mean they are big players that dominated a little region
their worst tournament result was losing in a map 7 to Revival
which at the time had players like Seeker Rupal and LhCloudy
but that is irrelevant since every player looked great in owl
Yo when is the Pro Am
and speedily was there too
Or whatever
23rd
this is TRULY horrific
you are going to look like such a clown when Titans are good and Boston implodes
no I'm not 💀
cause titans is going to be awful
and boston are gonna be mid at worst
nope you are on the wrong side of history
Aspire Sugarfree are cracked and you pair them with a solid B tier tank and backline
that is not below 12th
plus they have the only decent coaching staff Uprising have had since Crusty
you literally said last season titans was gonna be good as well 💀
Gladiators would still be S if we had Shu and Skewed 
Serious question, are people only low on boston because of the dps?
because support/tank wise they are pretty fucking good
they're just not that good lol, especially compared to the A and S tier teams
Twilight and smurf hold up against any of their respective counterparts in the league, and leejaegon/izayaki at worst are high A tier
kalios is perfectly fine so long as it's just OTs
I can understand the issues with the dps but I think it gets overrated on how bad they'll be
those are only players, the problem is getting all of them to work together as a team
Decay hasn't had team issues in years, and striker was very much so reformed from everything said by the people around him
there's also the communication issue since a lot of those players are from different regions
ah, anyway, the dps is going to be the biggest problem, especially since in their current group, they're biggest challenge is getting past kevster and his tracer
keep in mind the coaching staff are either proven talent killers or literal criminals
Striker's tracer is still plenty good, might not diff kevster/proper types, but won't get blown out of the water easily
especially with the new coach that they got IIRC
tbf supreme isn't HC for once
that combined with the dps line not even being top 10 in the league
Uprising just got hit with a bad group draw
they'll probably just be able to beat the contender teams but as soon as they faced Glads they're gonna lose big time
I think they'll be really good in dive metas ( so long as striker gets to sit on tracer)
Striker tracer is B tier at best now that he is washed up
Kevster is still at his prime
eu brainrot
Kevster is legitimately the best tracer in the league so it's gonna be hard for Striker to compare
i'm not the one that thinks Striker has been good off reaper since 2020 gf
Kevster can also play reaper better too lmao
kevster reaper in playoffs ohnonono
that he cannot
I would want to see it more since we didn't get to see it a bunch last year, but at worst striker's tracer is still high A tier
jesus his name value is still good
I think he can pickup the general dps shit like reaper/ashe/cass/symm/junk and perform to an adequate level that won't get him diffed hardcore unless he's facing mfs like lip
He also might legit just be the tracer only player for boston and decay/birdring stay in most of the time
hard to say
I do wonder who would play sojourn though
their dps bad
So long as the team can play properly as a cohesive unit they'll be fine and probably top 5
dude hasn't been top 3 on any of his teams for two years idk why people still think he isn't washed tbh
in na
Striker hasn't been good since 2018 mean I don't know what to tell ya
decay hasn't had any issues for years and striker was said to have been reformed (will have to see fully this year)
we just came off sparkle/edison winning grand finals, don't need lip/proper tier dps players at all times to win
Striker was also rumoured to be reformed in 2021 and we all know how that worked
2021 shock as a whole was having numerous issues
I think smurf was considering retiring that season too
also bostons staff..
yeah but Striker himself was very toxic particularly to Glister and Ta1yo
think that was the reason Glister went "missing" at the start of the season
He was a streamer after he retired for a while
I want to see both of these players come back to OWL
if they ever do it won't be on a team with Striker lol
glister deserved better ngl
proper
owns that fraud
I personally think striker's washedness is overstated
i personally think that i watched the matches
that is not new information
what is your source
shu tup
⬆️⬆️⬆️
nah
shu means up
no
its ball monkey supposedly
those r good heroes
:(
How strong is the meta?
Like if a team was just really good at a non-meta comp and they used it, how big would their disadvantage be?
well
meta means most effective tactic available
so its the most effective, if u dont use the meta u have to rely on better strats or raw mechanical aim
Old Chengdu wya
Tbh I’m like so behind on owl stuff
maryville owns redbirds
what gorup are they in again
B
might be one of the only contender teams to actually make it out of their group then tbh
if we ever get Spitfire's fucking roster
its london 2022 -shax -kaan +lethal +rando ass flex support i forgot about
so yeah probably the only contender team that might make it out of their group stage
thats what tr33 looks like
why does squid look terrified
He has MASSIVE shoes to fill
Who are they
I do not know
I’m very behind on owl
I don’t even know where it’s gonna be stream and such
I swear redbirds is colleges
Yt
That is the best guess so far
As no announcements about change to twitch
I think rebird is a contenders team
Last year on yt at least
But they play in those collage tournaments too
Hunters, la Val and uh
Nyxl tomorrow
Gonna hype up fits early retirement
Fr fr
Any other teams?
i feel like theres another
but i dont thinkl so
seoul 6th
philly 6th
vancouver 6th???
isint it mayhem agasint shock?
Skairipa but probably not anymore
Chengdu is disbanded
According to leaks, nyxl is lep, creative, kellan, fits, shockwave, seicoe, and halo
London is a wholesome organization
y not?
He made an offensive joke
if anything commanderx is getting cut for leaking scrim comms
Val is krawi, seeker, cjay, nos, and lyar
Teams dont need a 6th until owl starts
God nyxl fell off so fast
lep creative kellan fits shockwave sieco and halo shouldnt even be that bad
is gesture still coaching
i would never leak but nyxl is TERRIBLE right now'
Is there an East Pro-AM?
skairipa. Former support of Vancouver titans
I was 12 mins late to that, nice one @tropic herald
Wtf
What are they on
Australian and a New Zealander meet at a pub and are now your new Casting duo for Contenders Korea
I seriously doubt that
considering London said the players involved are undertaking sensitivity training
Will there be an east pro-am?
Ya
Player coach usually just means he help moon while playing the game
But
Who viper?
There dps
Wait
Viper a genji main????
WHY DIDT THEY JUST KEEP WHORU
Hadi got done dirty
Though I don’t want people to just be thrown into London, because their team synergy is their main thing
done dirty????
bro got blamed for saying the second half of the joke
But you literally hear his mic and voice seconds before, and it obviously isnt him
you can tell its him that goes 'heh' but that's it
Viper >
Shd cooking, what will it be?
more news for contenders talent than there is for owl talent 
Watch as all the news gets blasted less than 24 hours before Pro-AM launches, but still no sign of Hotba
@hot onyx also great news YT livestream gave back 5 mins that was lost during the render so you too can join in midway through my excitement of the podcasting making it into AI recommendations
aw frickin sweet!
Cause viper o2
How's collegiate overwatch going?
Ngl sans needs to up his skills
He's bringing you down
You gotta carry him
Today the day
This is the second time gangnamjin has been on a team with three flex supports
Nyxl roster reveal
The best team in owl history
That they hype up there roster last min
Just to be second to worse team again
All the teams involved in the lawsuit against Blizz/ OWL are intentionally not promoting Pro-Am on their team accounts
Wait there a lawsuit?
no, more like pressuring blizz because not getting what they promised and such
Ah is that what the whole British law guy was about?
24 inch monitor?
Always wondered why pros use 24inch monitors
speak up against blizzard = banned appearantly
I know birdring said the worst slur you can say to an 11 year old
24 inch monitors are elite
Idk I use a 27 inch
less eye movement
hybrid mcree kings row
Whoever said the sky is the limit should have tried harder. ☄️
Introducing your NYXL Roster for the 2023 season:
🛡️ @Kellan_OW
⚔️ @Fits_ow
⚔️ @sHockWaveOW
⚔️ @seicoeOW
💉@HelloImHalo
💉 @Lep_ow
💉 @Aniyun_
💉 @OW_Creative
We look forward to continuing the journey #EverUpward…
cool announcement video
the budget was spent on the video instead of the roster
wow what a surprise
Never heard of halo,aniyum
Ngl at first glance I thought of halo the leaker
Wast Kellen on nyxl last year
Like a hype up rookie
Tank
New York actually has a contenders roster
Then nyxl just trash his rep
Also yea the fuck are they gonna do with 4 supports?
Is this 2018 when teams were building 13 man rosters
Who are there coaches?
Shockwave is never gonna reach his full potential after philly huh
Paris vs contenders team are gonna be enjoyable
Nyxl vs contenders team
this is a diff halo
i think?
oh huh
its not
its the same
Haley
yeah
haley is halo from boston s3
i thought they were diff ppl
i didnt realise there had been another girl in owl besides geguri
oh wait shes trans
trans rep in owl W
Yep trans

Will be funny when owl teams get diffed by tendies
unfortunate how much hate shes gonna get tho :/
Overwatch league on 23th?
Yo
Do they give rewards for watching?
I'm going to predict only 1 or 2 contenders teams make it out of groups
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
Will sans be the first to update esports announcements
It's funny when he does
Guy got got for saying hi 💀
I like the players on nyxl but like, there's no shot that support line is going to do anything in owl 
The American supports that is 
dawg what are they DOING
how do you sign 4 supports in a 2 support game
wasant the match against mayhem vs the shock a few hours ago?
why cant i see it on the OWL channel?
the schueducle said it was this morning for me local time
On paper, shock wins their division, reign wins theirs, glads wins theirs, and Houston wins theirs
When World Cup start ? We will have new icons free tokens ?
No
Bruh the guy who speaks the second time doesn’t even have the same mic, let alone accent
on paper
u never know
Glads is 100% winning their division
they're facing 2 contenders teams, Uprising and someone else that I forgot
Uprising would win without that shit coaching
i havent looked at rosters yet any teams looking OP
Shock atlanta houston boston spark
My friend told me TD was looking good
Solid A tier team
Boston??? Idk about that
Uprising wouldn't win, their dps lineup is so fucking ass
against kevster they're crumbling
plus striker being washed out and toxic
Smurf and the backline can carry
No you didn’t
Space isnt competing anymore
Spitfire roster is already confirmed
Hadi, sparkr, backbone, lethal, skairipa, Landon, admiral
Space is a content creator now
East pro am is gonna be more interesting than west pro am
Space to London is as unrealistic as profit to fuckin valiant
Pro am starts on March 23
the schuedule for me said today at 4am
on wed
weird
must be just glitched or something
Games start at 1pm EST
hmm thanks ill check
Whats a pro am
Contenders team plays owl teams
It's short for Professional Amateur League, what do you need to know about it?
yeah when are u playing in it
How
How is has that fucking rat found another team
Shitwave is actually the biggest wage thief
bro doesn't watch the games
Hey, no spoilers 
Unironically they pulled off home/away heroes really well
???? Did grace just drink some orange koolaif
I want that tracer skin
Actually you know what
Contenders Tracer vs Outlaws Tracer, which one does it better?
The superior Contenders KR First to 3
eternal couldn't even win a series in the owwc open quals
i think nyxl can beat them
barley
Good joke
eternal lost to samito and cloneman
Samito is the goat
Is a contender a team that could potentially compete in owl or?
not even close
Players that can play in owl
Bro O2 blast is playing such a bad comps lmao
And opener man this guy is so bad lmao
He goes mercy at the end like wtf😂😂
hot take one of the worst o2 blast rosters
It’s not a hot take actually
But tbf Topdragon is playing sombra
Like holy shit what are they doing
Idk what this coaching staff is cooking but they should stop cooking
O2 should've realized just because a player was in OWL doesn't make them good
if only Infernal realized that too when signing FiXa over SanGuiNar LeGo Aiden or Donghun
BRO NO WAY O2 SUB OUT TOP DRAGON FOR GENJI
This team is actually kinda scary because Ir1s deserves to be in OWL, Becky did good in OWL and 4 out of 5 of them have had decent seasons in OWL
Belosrea carrying the Fusion curse
should it worry you that they/them O2 needed to reverse sweep?
not really, Knife in = win
That's generally what happens in a real knife fight tho
Looking for a Manager prefer EU.
Fuckin valiant
Also
This might unironically be the one that breaks the curse.
Take this to your scrimbux drip feed.
LIP is the truth. ATL is nuts.
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Cope
who could have foreseen
Someone announce the valiant roster for them
get the glads to do it
Really yiska
Atlanta sold its soul and we somehow keep the curse 
I'm keeping my stonks on Philly Infernal
He went live like 11 hours before you sent that message you idiot loser
sell them for Hangzhou Spark stonks #sparktheworld
#InFixaWeTrust
#InLengsaWeTrust*
i said Glads and Fuel would be the best teams in NA this last year
and that Spark would be top 3 apac
and that London would be better than Boston
You said creative was better then fielder
?
lmfao
since they cant get the password
Outlaws I support players and pelican is one of them
I only know seeker and heard of paintbrush
This is so cursed Lmaoo
Magic8ball is apparently his real name
infekted was ringing for my team and his grandma fell down the stairs i hope shes okay
Just got let go from @ATLFaZe / @ATLReign.
Feeling a lot rn, but wanted to say thank you to all the people I gained as family over the last two years.
Might talk about everything soon but not rn.
With that being said, looking for new opportunities. On to the next ❤️
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wow
Contenders rosters number 6000
Alright, I'm gonna go ahead and say this, all OWL teams will be the tops of their division
There will not be a single contenders team that is above an OWL team
Group B might have a contender's team win their division
but yeah the other divisions don't really have a chance
especially group C with Gladiators dominating their group
Who's in group B?
No contenders team is gonna get a map against atl
Reign, Spitfire and Valiant I believe
Rein Spitfire and Valiant are gonna be top 3 in the division
Valiant has arguably the worst fucking roster in that division lmao
the only person I can see being considered is Paintbrush
??
discrediting london hard
saints arent bad but
Vegas have chance
they arent gonna beat spitfire reign
against valiant
the only interesting matchup is Uprising vs Glads in group C ngl, too bad they're not Trick Room in group A lmao
Expected take from you
if glads still had Shu and Skewed they'd easily dominate group C ngl
Uprising might take a map or two from them now though
maybe just one map then lol
Uprising beat them imo
not with their dps lineup
I have trust in birdring
Uprising dps isn't even top 10 and their coaching staff is comprised of talent killers and criminals
Shock Mayhem
Reign Spitfire
Glads Peps (scorching hot take, but bostons first match is glads, they lose and gg theyre boomed)
Outlaws then idk, Defiant/Redbird?
Decay is mid now and flips a coin as his decision on whether or not to pop off, Striker hasn't been good since 2020 and Birdring hasn't played professionally for over a year
on-top of that Kevster is still one of if not the best tracer in the league
tracers*
precisely, top 3 tracer at least vs the washed up corpse of Striker
atleast Uprising is more kept together than whatever the hell Chengdu went through
yeah but you need a roster to achieve that and you're successful in that field
do we still have the same coaches for Glads?
from what i know yes
I don't remember if we got new ones
Mayhem are getting first in their group
Okay then yeah Glads are gonna fucking stomp
Shock is gettting second
Titans*
Glads are getting first in their group, probably a contender's team second
Doubt it
Glads are getting second
Uprising is fucking ass though
whos getting first
Glads are losing to wisp
if boston beat glads they will be 1st
if boston loses to glads they dont make top 2
Uprising are abysmally mismanaged with a dps line that isn't even top 10, heck dare i say not even top 15
And the village makes it out
Wisp is first
Agray
Glads Boston Justice
Oh they lose to justice fr fr
Boston has no DPS lineup and a mediocre tank player, Glads are gonna solo
Glads on ping with dantay monkey<wisp
dude imagine believing in Boston 😭
Trust me
Wisp has goats
It’s a main tank meta
Smurf vs Danteh
"guys this is FINALLY the year Boston doesn't suck we have SO MANY good players"
I didn’t say that just
Glads is not good
LOL
yes but they are not bad enough to lose to Boston
you're only saying that because we don't have Shu and Skewed anymore
we still have a great coaching staff and Kevster playing his iconic tracer
Smurf is not a mediocre tank
Wtf are you on
ez preds
referring to Kalios
nobody is putting val above saints
why are people putting Uprising above Glads
?
best cuyowski take ever
at best, Uprising might take one map from glads the entire split
lennyszn
Mt meta every glad player
Ever on ping
if ur talking about my ss, liquipedia jsut does it alphabetically when no matches played
Kevster's tracer still exists, btw
the numbers are my preds
Agree but ping and no MT
Will effect them
Sadly
no, im bandwagoning on shock, im sad viol2t went somewhere
I dont want boston to beat glads
Danteh is doable enough on Main Tank to where they can atleast compete competitively, which is a lot more than what Uprising's DPS lineup is bringing
But i have to accept
people sleepiong on boston
keep feedjaegon out, but Izayaki/Twilight
all I see are washed out players
whats their to sleep on
their 3 good players?
this is the best roster ever in 2020
and 2022
Striker hasn't been good past 2020
what
do not ask sans about his placement for titans and boston 💀
He carried on the lower bracket
For the first stage I predict
vs top tier teams
levi 
Boston Uprising ass
Yea instead you have DANTEH LASTRO AND BABEL
get a better coaching and training staff then we'll talk
three incredible players fr
Lastro is good the fuck you mean
reaper
No only babel
hello alfie
I meant two incredible players
babel 💤
Lastro back under Unter coaching*
And one overrated fuck
did u like my proam preds
blasphemy
Babel is slightly understandable but no way you called Lastro shit lmao
lastro is shit
babel hasnt been good since Spitfire implosion
where are they
.
Not even top five when he was under unter
I don't think anyone who was in that spitfire implosion has been performing 100% ever since lol, Can't really blame them either
Babel is a generational flex support talentr
idk what the controversial stuff is anymore
put glads 3
like
Clestyn
how the fuck that team loses so much
Retired
team peps are not gonna get 2nd
this roster never shouldve done as bad as it did
glads booms boston on first game
vice champions !
in no universe
the fuck this team gonna roll boston
another year in contenders and they are primed
striker decay
since he doesn't like staying at teams 😂
thats true alfie
we dont know how the ringbird is doing except getting banned from OW
smurf twilight izayaki with kalios ljg dps
Naga about to get fired again in 2 weeks in
Birdring is in a region with Lip Proper Happy Hydron Aspire Kai Mer1t SparkR
and he hasn't played pro in a year
also both dps lines might be both washed but let's be honest here boston's dps peaked way higher and are just better
and now he's back in with a criminal coaching staff that is known for killing talent
and a choice between the two most toxic dps players to play the game as his partner
finally time to wub to shine
Timeless
timeless winning it all
wait are redbird that bad?
i have no clue what their roster is i tohught they were good
like
oh
just GiG bein relevant
Owl team here
all the good redbird players just got taken to owl or are on saints I think
although I am not an NA contenders enthusiast unlike @twin bloom he prob has a more accurate read on how the t2 teams are gonna fair I'd say
New yorks gonna get absolutely demolished
I'm just high on twisted minds cause they're cool! 👍
Lethal made owl and they lost lyar with someone way worse
Would need to call the police
Nyxl 2nd
i would love to agree bc trans player W
I think saints has the highest chance of making it out of groups then maybe like trick room
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losing to samito 💀
sami🐐
who the hell are those two teams
timless and trickroom?
are they new??
na contenders
OHHHHHHHHH
OKOKOKO
i only watch like the big league
lol
i got excited for a hot second
ngl i like the new team's color scheme
the Seoul Infernal
More impressive than clestyn ever did
Clestyn is the only one who has been awful on Flex DPS
yeah ik i just dont watch the contenders n shit
probably should for tokens tbh.
They don’t give u tokens
idk the conversion to ur timezone
but
first match is
8pm uk time
schedule
rent free
🚨 The threat is here 🚨
Your Vancouver Titans are ready to take over 😈
#ForceOfNature | #TrueNorth | #OWL2023
Vancouver doesn’t seem that bad imo
Eh
THAT'S WHAT IM SAYING
better than Uprising at least
Vancouver it's Paris 2
all of these players have found moderate success when the odds were against them doing so
Nyxl I say might be below but that because it feels like there teamwork is gonna be bad
Fits first time on a mix roster?
yes
He’s gonna be what AlphaYi is to Washington
and Kellan too unless you consider Vulcans 30 day contract on NYXL as a mixed roster
yeah pretty much
Lot of games per gat daym
shit glads is definitely making it 1st now lol
for groups yeah
Huh?
This is like Idek
If it real or not lmao
2nd tank 2nd tank
Failed org
Sans, update esports announcements
which signing
Val
TOMORROW we kick off the #OWL2023 Pro-AM tournament at 1 PM PT 🥳
Watch all the action LIVE at https://t.co/pc1CaBjERc 🔴
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Why the hell did they post this last second
Even allowing watch party’s
cuz its overwatch and they forget to do stuff
Yooooo new casters
Dogman is back
some cope but this is just for the pro am
many tendies cast
and they have a lot of the general t2 casters
also iirc achillios did valorant/owl last year
kiwi wit legday
surely the three best casters actually return for OWL
custa and x gonna be odd af

the brits and jake?
there are 3 brits not named Bren or Sideshow
was referring to the 3 best from last year because Brenshow is the undisputed goats
also ngl
Semmler and Hex
there arent many tendies tbh, but i feel its more OWL going budget mode
and there are rumours about teams being mad about the pro-am
why is soe stilla round
imagine spending millions for an owl slot just to get bitched by a t2 team
soe likes hosting
she ass tho
toxic
Or abandoning the slots like Valiant
iirc immortals tried to sell the slot, didnt work for china
I wish owl did signing stuff like the nfl
had an enforced cap space
and require teams to spend a certain % of it
i think they tried but bobby overhyped the league
with the homestand and such
and covid happened
bobby could sell snow to eskimo
where.. wheres uber
and also hire a hitman to take out a whistleblower
budget mode lol
Achillios afaik going Valorant
^
oh wait forgot Jaws too
man
I dont like Dogman casting much
:/
for what i heard in tendies
He did good during last season
devastating if true
its very true
hes casted multiple events
as desk member
as desk ???
yeah and shes not a mainstay desk member any of those games
Nekkra has been part of the desk sometimes
ok but achillios
pretty sure she casts pokemon
ok
can overwatch keep
i wouldnt expect achillios back
one good commentator
maybe for grand finals but
just one
they'll have avrl after pro am
since pro am is mickey mouse
actually idk
maybe avrl moves to val
yeah because unless Pixie gets promoted to OWL who tf does he cast with
Uber is attached to Matt like a conjoined twin
i like Vikki
shes with nekkra
maybe she goes well with AVRL after being stuck with Jaws and Tridd
naw 💀
"i feel like FiXa is the most consistently good member for the Philadelphia Fusion"
cool streamers but sometimes people shouldn't be paid to talk
so true
iirc Uber busy being father of 2, so i guess he vibing
Jaws i think was visa issues
But like on the other hand blizz fails to give a good agreement to their best casters
At the same time it's nice to give them an opportunity to be in the spotlight
Excited to be back for another season! We have some new faces in the studio and some incredible matchups, so you won't want to miss it.
See you all soon :)
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He has done not valoraint and owl, i guess hasn't received an offer
Do they release pick ems for the 2023 season and the pro am
Cant believe sans forgot babel in the esports announcements
is owl dead yet
no
why not
They drop tokens and skins ?
Idk my problem with it is they announce watch party’s but they have like all night to go over who can host one
Doesn’t say anything about it
As far as I know pick ems don’t start until the official owl starts
I’m waiting free tokens for months 
They drop tokens and skins at official owl ?
Contenders get skins only if they say it gonna be there and tokens are part of the owl
gonna be a major toronto fan boy this year
Ay noice
Well I’ll also be cheering once they fight Outlaws haha
Like cheering on both hehe
Also just found out Danteh left the team
I mean I just got into the OWLs like last semi finals season but kinda sad he left
owl has not even started and we have already had 2 apolagy tweets
is this a new record
They did a owl coin contest they allowed ai work which takes like no skill
They pretty much thought people would use it appropriately
Can I get OWL tokens from watching the Pro Am?
No clue
Wait did valiant move back west?
Group B is Gonna be Reign and Spitfire smh
Yeah
Also, the only way I can see Mayhem beating Toronto is if there's a main tank Meta
XD
Houston beat them so hard last year that they had to move continents
It legit is a main tank meta tho lmao
Exactly
Everyone has been playing rein, Winston, ball in scrims
So very confident that the meta will probably be mt only
Da Luge gonna get fucked up by SOMEONE
Chorong Gaps Ojee, Rupal is not as good as Majed or UV, and the DPS lines are equal
LONDON STONKS
What do we do if a contendies team wins
well no. London loses tonight but def will be second in their group
I think London could take a map from atl doing some ratty unexpected play
but not win
fair
I as a Reign fan am confident we win against London. But yeah they for sure can take a map
with it being only first to 2 tho I think anyone can win against anyone doing ratty stuff
I will say tho that I am nervous as hell because last year London was so annoying to play against hahaha
if London just slam rush I think they could win tbh
who's atl tank?
hawk?
idk names
Or D0nghak
what do they play
Hawk and D0nghak
Hawk plays all the offtanks and D0nghak mostly plays Wrecking ball and Winston
no rein?
But yeah D0nghak in scrim against Shock looks nutty
I think if next year Mayhem should maybe Drop Checkmate and Rupal to get TopDragon and Creative
haven't seen that in contenders
But he could have a Rein
No clue
I would not pick up creative. I think Ir1s is the better option
And with Topdragon I def agree
Fair enough
Actually, Drop Sauna and pick up TooDragon or Spectra
Then get Korean Coaches
Spectra should have been in OWL a long time ago. But because of past controversy teams tend to not sign him
So next year Mayhem I wanna see Mer1t, TopDragon, Checkmate, SOMEONE, Chorong, and Ir1s



