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Junbin is gonna massively improve Shocks chances to dominate the season. Don’t see much stopping them
Only teams capable are Atlanta in their best meta, Houston in their best meta.
Florida clears with Bidenator
And even then Shock has the best roster. In double flex support meta Reign and Outlaws might shine more. Considering they have two insane flex supports
good point
send it
100% sleep dart accuracy
no amount of money would make me post that on the official
my king
meow
you must
Hit enter key
he cant play any map with stairs
he cant climb anything
so no high ground for him
i would take the bullet for you obi but i'm still under watch for being too goated with my announcement coordination
Why it was your megaphone shooting a laser beam that was the problem, not the lack of descriptive words towards them
it was a fire announcement
Might be cursed because of how true it is
Based sans
We should make a podcast together
One of the worst days in history
That was so incredibly based
Top 10 dementia
ok very sad
@balmy wolf hello buddy
Stfu
Hahaha
I main mirage in this game
…
Its a joke from last year
I got the whole of #general-discussion talking about apex
New city, new kit. Introducing the 2023 Vegas Eternal jersey! ✨
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This one is pretty cool
wage thief?
what happened
Oh way
So glads are having money trouble
The Guard has just laid off nearly every employee in their company
Speechless
4382
I sadge Atlanta is going to suck I think
Ya glads are own by the guard right?
They rlly not gonna change there name
Oh this is a right mess 
Guard mustve been cut for not being successful or sum
Halo drama hehe
Dementia more like top 2 Sigma
what is that melody
i agree wholeheartedly, potentially one with team preview episodes on western overwatch league teams before the season starts
i appear sometimes on the Ecopoint Podcast which is available on spotify and youtube
if you can tolerate my big brain takes when involved as the esports guy you should check it out !
This mean
glads is fucked
I mean the gladiators have a pretty high budget roster
they cant respondlol
there's no one there to respond 💀
Curse continues, carpe in second place yet again 
i can not tolerate your voice
sure you can babe 💕
twink
projection
It's insane fr
yes which is why i SAID that
smartest ow player
use proper grammer
also i was going off of scrimbux or whatever
cuz it was leaked
also orgs can like lol
a bit late cuz everyone alr knows
but yeah
disgusting org
not much owl can do abt it
this was leaked 2 days ago
lmao
everyone knows
Ah
from reddit
but yeah still disgusting
like i said not much the league can do
unless they set rules that force them to change
Telling your players not to win matches, what the fuck
just sounds terrible all around
Wtf is this
They have been through so much shit
And now they are going to the na
The league need to somehow do something
Cause they have it in the contracts to pay the players the set amount
Should get lawyers involved
Well
If this season is not good in viewership and other stuff
We might be seeing the end of glads
How are they allowed to close
we should buy a team slot
recruit a homeless man to take on all the debt
i can pay 5000 for a players salary
or we should all stage an ambush on elon musk and use his wealth for the gladiators
give the remains to charity or something
his bodyguards can't fight off all of us at once
Some org ran by an old women who doesnt understand esports is gonna buy glads
Same thing happened with houston
define old
that's old
Pretty sure only reason hou is spending so much this year
Is cause their owner just doesnt know any better
Lol
that's true, someone that knows how to invest would've bought Skewed instead of Viol2t
These are the owners of houston outlaws parent org 😭
wait really
Yeah lol
well
it's true, them and directer Mark S Fowler
yeah
Suprised ATL is still spending so much
But this is probably the last year they do
Lol
i mean houston is close to breaking even smile
prob better than most teams
if i was bill gates i would buy an owl team instead of a yacht
he technically has one
sponsorship and ownership are different
true
outlaws are gonna do better than 3rd this year
that really depends
Fearless off tank Viol2t ms
hell Viol2t fs
now that he's been surpassed
we will just have to see but i have confidence
Cause owl dead 
Man i used it to be so optimistic for owl
Oh 
Looks owl is truly on a death roll
Reiner retired????
He aint coming back 
Theres no future at all
The game had a shaky launch and is barely recovering
And owl is just dying
Tbh ow probably making a lot of money with there shitty skin prices and overprice league skins
Eh they won’t win shit still kek
Fearless ball lmao

That worked for Dallas stage 2
Clueless
Losing to Philly
?
They won gf?
Stage 2?
They never won bruteforcing monkey on non monkey meta
Warm up first half of the season
In fact they went out like 8th
?
Oh ok
this is goof
good
very good
I think we knew that but we’re just waiting
ok thats good
Ya lol
so no Lethal or could that still happen?
My prayers have been answered
YES
Yeah it was eventually
I love Sparkr

I hope the same for Hadi
No Hadiii
Ah well he pretty much said the new tank for Toronto could be Reiner
In an interview with the Houston Chronicle on Jan. 16, the COO of Houston Outlaws’ parent company Beasley Esports, Lori Burgess, spoke candidly about the state of the company’s revenue and losses for the Overwatch League franchise. Burgess said that the team pays some players more than $200,000 per year in salary and despite $1.4 million in revenues—stemming primarily from ad sales—the team is still operating at a loss.
A reminder from last month's bombshell article https://www.jacobwolf.report/p/overwatch-league-teams-start-collective
And you know what would save theese franchises 
Home stadiums
Team merch
Fan events
3-4 teams had stadiums that were scrapped (not cause of their fault) btw
Huge revenue potential
Poof
They havent even attempted to try and get that back
Imo I think part of revenue for owl skins should go to the teams
HAHAH rip gladiators am I right
But yeah I bought skins to support the teams not blizz
is owl going to be in YT this seasons because if it is i will lose my crap
Maybe they do but Getting owl skins is thru tokens so 
None of these things have kicked off in a way that anyone including their dog or a child in hospital would want them
You can see that 2021 only succeeded off the bare bones that were available to them through China's Homestand model
Did u forgot what the whole point of hometowns was 
And the negative press that attracted people to OWL to spam in chat about ActiBlizz sexual misconduct
Once everyone got their feet wet and got a buisness structure is where the money comes in
Even if homestands went off and were a success, do you think it would appeal to anyone outside of OWL? They certainly hoped it would
And thats where the teams come in
How they interract with the community
How they Advertide themselves
This is less for dynasty and the Chinese teams
Since they are both esport mecha’a
They dont?
I assumed they got money when someone bought that skin
I was wondering how much the pink and blue team make from being the most popular colour combination
Hangzhou
Yep
just the color scheme is likeable
nothing more
real
#SPARKTHEWORLD
ㅗ
???
also ofc leakmafia just deletes the tweet instead of acknowledging they fucked up
btw what is gon happen to Chinese teams since u know that happened
That's weird tho
Because they usually just say yeah we are wrong
Also reiner is deffo coming back
If u want we can bet money on it
what
can u read
I can
legit a month ago he asks for privacy
and leakmafia, being the clout chasers they are
report on him
but if they were clout chasers they would leave it up no?
they annoy halo daily
but fucking up and reporting on someone dealing with medial issues who wants privacy?
delete and pretend it did not happen
I mean if they would apologize about it they would just bring more attention to it
Ion even think anyone saw it because it's not on reddit either
Also fuck halo he's a nonce
everything halo reports they spam on his timeline
they deserve to own up to their own mistakes
but im aware its a acc run by like 4 16 year olds
So what do you care more about
reiner privacy or them owning up to their mistakes even if that would bring more attention to reiners comeback
nah they fucked up, they should apolagize to reiner too
that does not answer the question?
I lowkey do hope they apologize publically before it gets announced tho
Would delete all the hype n surprise about the reveal
its also not what i care about, im not the one reportin on reiner
its up to those kids
and imo they should say sorry to reiner, either in dms or public
Then why get mad
Ion even think reiner has seen i
it
I doubt anyone outside of this discord has seen it
still own up to mistakes
Yes and if they do that they ruin Reiners privacy even more
both sides have good points
you dont
I hate leakmafia icl
Ah so that what happened to him hope he gets better soon
you don't have anything
? He has you
sorry i was busy having intercourse and didn't see the message
??????? Sans the only people in ur house are u and ur nan....
i would never do that heinous activity in the same house as my nan
My 🐐
deleted
LOL
why tf does he look
like an old man
in this
That's unfair, it was so based
he's not an AT player though
should've signed Wub
still cool to have all 3 European players worth signing on the same team
Good signing
Championship or nothing
Cause we are going out of business 
Final season, all or nothing
They didnt sign skairipa
who does sky ripper replace
Better than babel in my honest view
placing 2nd in eu contenders twice is a bigger achievement than placing 1st in kr contenders four times
He won a tournament with HYBRID and finnsi
Babel won with heesang and MAX
proper mac
My bad
Skairipa beat greats in that one tournament
Like seicoe
Alex2705 or KSAA idk
Falcons?
Lullsish Alex Seicoe Grathen Dolla Exorath
Who
best hitscan currently in contenders
top 3 off tank (both Clestyn and Toyou)
As long as we agree false is top one
has Vision been the sole reason that his dysfunctional team has been remotely competitive for two tournaments?
He has
Okay
and still looked convincingly like the best hs in the region
which equates to best in all of contenders since NA no longer has FunnyAstro Alarm Hawk and Sugarfree to carry them
Ok
Respect sanguinar
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I hate Toronto
Wow
Wow gladiator's actually has an awesome team I'm excited to watch
Shame the teams dead after this season
? proud isnt on that list
all of those players wont findd success in the league
besides toyou
I’m better than all of you
and sombra is the best dps
True
Weird tue I think the spark said they were gonna announce there roster last February
Oh nvm the end of February
the conversation was towards players O2 faced in tournament finals
Well
hello terrorist what has been going on in owl
Do you get anything for watching the stream?
Big W
??
interesting...
HUH
explain
Vega cjay left odyssey the day of the roster lock
For pro ams
And that account is meming on them
anything Uganda or North Korean related is always a meme
Ugandan Air Force for example is an NA Overwatch team that started out as a group of doomfist players
@hot onyx 280+ ping kill me now
genji really said:
real @north relic
this was announced months ago
A lost to the community
He cant be washed if he never reached his potential 
Ansoonjae wasnt that bad 
he was pretty bad
he got put on the cursed team that is toronto then thrown into the middle of NYXL's shit show on high ping
truly unlucky
wasnt he supposed to be thenext ljg
Wouldnt wish that on my worst enemies
He definitely had potential in contenders
Dude just got thrown into the trash like immediately 
im 21 credits off a skin i want to get can i ask blizzard for a tony bit of overwatch coins like some other game?
No
ok
blizzard should just let the team they left play
if they dont act on this it will happen again
So what happen?
cjay and vega should just not be able to play anymore
They did nothing wrong according to blizz rules
they going to maryville right
Yeah
agreed
don't worry, neither of them are going to have a remotely successful future after these shenanigans
contenders and owl teams will see them as a flight risk and won't want to sign them since they are known to be willing to screw over their team if it benefits them
that's even excluding the fact that they are a worse support duo than Rakattack Lukemino 
Vega destroys rakatack
Imo
Everyone thinks vega is better
Imo
Vega joobi ojee the big 3 of NA ms's
i destroy you irl
All i saw was that they were rats
What does that mean
cute
Fr I don’t even know what going on lol
fuck gig
i love GiG
i think the problem with the OWL is thats its not very accessible to casual players normal people cant keep up with entirely new team rosters every 6 months i think teams in the OWL should try and hold their players for longer periods of time bu thats just me
me when off season trades happen frequently in every esport and sport
I mean in s1-s3 it wasnt as frequent as it is now
fuck gig
USA will win Overwatch World Cup 2023
the man the myth the legend
I miss Super
how can i watch people play scrims when its not owl season?
any good places to watch?
He doesnt
yeah super dropped off the face of the earth after he retired from owl
whoper
That means you think Toronto defiant beat dallas fuel
#DramaAlert
depends which Dallas Fuel
MCD Bliss era probably
Fielder ChiYo era depends on the meta but probably not
Mcd bliss are my goats
This mant isnt speaking a lick of english
Clearly owl is his first esport
im talking about casual players
imagine if a soccer team changed their entire roster managers and coach every season and the team name and logo is the only thing that remains the same
and thats not even consistent consdering what happened to the fusion
I mean if your Chelsea that happens on the reg
There's too many factors for high roster turnover
Owl isn't as profitable, esports careers are short, some try to be competitive and bring in better talent, some go budget
Football players have longer contracts and high fees so it's literally impossible to let go of every player/coach and bring in an entire new team
yeah exactly and i think thats what needs to change about OWL
End of the day they'll do what fits their plan
Also I'm sure casual fans are capable of looking up roster moves, it's not that deep
im saying its hard to get invested into a team when it changes so often
Damn, a team who changed for the better
i got invested in em last year after seeing fearless play and chi yo and fielders great healing
oh wait thats right their in the outlaws now
see what i mean?
Atlanta
Yeah
They still retained 3 players of a 5 man roster
i mean yeah but you lost 3 players of a championship team
and that hurts no matter which way u look at it
Keeping a winning roster doesn't guarantee another
There's always pieces to build on
So much contenders talent you'd be dumb not to pick up
ig but still like id rather see new talents being introduced then current players leaving
ahhh i dont watch contenders
You cannot get new talent without shifting other players on
Or you'd have a 20 player roster
i mean yeah but still u get my point here
That's how sports work
It's part of sports, players move on and it'll suck but it is what it is
Just like london will suck next year
triggered
Bro I'm a London fan I still cry about the players we lost 😭
Like hybrid tha goat 
atlanta and boston r STACKED
This changed esport to esport
Boston are heavily overrated I think
People said this last year
This year it will sadly happen
i think outlaws got some great pickups too
I refuse to believe
Boston have a weird dps lineup who's biggest brightspot hasn't competed in a year
well u guys still have hadi
and if the metagame still shifts towards that brawl comp that its going towards rn
Proved me wrong icl
Dongsu is unproven as a HC
And Kalios isn't world-class
Twilight is also slowly fading out of his prime
spitfires reinhardt rush comp looked great last season
We were competitive, I'm happy with that
it'd be cool to see teams jus like run spefic comps their good at
its wishful thinking but still
A stage title would've been great though
instead of jus like jus blindly running whatevers good
like i get if u wanna win u run whats good and yada yada yada
but id like to see some innovation with teams
call me stupid but is this not him?
https://www.twitch.tv/supertf/schedule
like
its not him.......?????????
It is called sarcasm
TOTALLY WASANT MISLEADING NO SIR
i wasn't lying
then go watch him on twitch
who is that
idk his twitter is super_ow and that's supertf
pretty sure they're different
Matthew DeLisi (born March 28, 2000), better known as super or supertf
idk who that is
if like u diidnt put in this TINY BIT OF EFFORT
INTO FINDING HIM ONLINE
AS HE IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST OVERWATCH CREATORS
HOW CAN U SAY U MISS HIM
im sorry
is there any
other
super in the OWL
who retired
that im unaware of?
yeah the guy that was tank for some california team
because super former tank for SF shock? Cocky guy?
like
he is one of the largest overwatch streamers on twitch
550k followers
he isn't that hard to miss
so how can say u miss him
like
idk i haven't played ow in years
jafghjkdjhgsahj then why how why would u say gdfgsh u know what
yeah ummm
yeah
yeah
wait
wait wait wait
do you mean the 2x Overwatch League Champion World Cup Champion Stage 2 Champion May Melee Champion Countdown Cup Champion Role Star 2x All Star All Star Winner MVP Candidate MVP Runner Up
that super?
why yes i am referring to i am referring to super,one of the most decorated competitive Overwatch players, being a two time Overwatch League Champion, World Cup Champion, Stage 2 Champion, May Melee Tournament Champion, Role Star, All Star and MVP Runner-Up
THEN
WHY
HOW
WHY
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ig i was a little confused not sure
am i even going to bother
no i will not

lmfao what the hell happened here
starts here
and contuines here
all i know is that i watch this super guy on twitch who plays funny variety games
MY GUY
THIS "FUNNY SUPER GUY"
IS STILL CONSITENTLY TOP 500
AND IS STILL ONE OF THE BEST IN THE WORLD
yeah
i cant
Bros brain is fried
i mean like
if u read
what i went through
ur brain would be fried too
This was literally a joke
Everyone in the ow scene knows super
my god thats such a good joke
COOK
sanest super fan
Shock >
based
L
yaki will carry babel to a championship
?
Why would they play yaki
Kevster and kai cover all the stuff and they are both better
Only reason yaki looked good was because he was sourunded by shit
yaki did diff kev on tracer
Gargoyle disrespect will not be tolerated
BQB disrespect if ANYTHING
Ngl, 2021 mayhem were drowned by OGE and Slime
Gargoyle, GNJ, Yaki, and BQB we're all good players that year
One was for sure
glads will never get a championship
Glads need a lucio zen widow tracer doom meta to win owl
Aka never gonna happen
Imho
if his operation was successful his testicles should be stitched in place, meaning they cannot twist again without strict manual force
and mr cruz does not strike me as a bdsm enjoyer


ask supertf
Smartest sans comment
actually my smartest comment was predicting Spark to go on a big playoff run
twink
this server has gone real quiet about Shanghai Dragons when skin owners got an upgrade to their booty sizes
What in the Alternate shit is this
oh yeah esports
u cant do this to me
u cant rebrand my favorite team and then the coach i decide to follow to the new team is a creep
what the fuck am i supposed to do now
go to shock
yeah you should join shock
idk they're lame
Atlanta has a lot of personality
20 years old
lmao
after Rostons twitlonger i am an Infernal fan
wherever that man goes i go
#FIXASZN
not while SanGuiNar Lego and Donghun are on the market sadly
Donghun Teru Ir1s goes hard
Teru 
maam saw the shit roster he was constructed and canceled him
lol you would scream
at least 4 other players names every match
if u were a shock fan
since they are all so cracked
ik ots jist bot the same
what
HEESANG!!11!!
FR i was screaming kilo and mikeyy every shock game personally
Englisk
In all seriousness I could understand that lmao
You didnt
i did
infact u can probably see me yelling in the livestream
top layer left side top
kiriko brig with double fs
not last season
It was yelling in happiness
top 3
i believe
Gladiators season was more successful
my bad i forgot the la half a season ators were better than consisten 2nd
😭
u clearly were not there during lijang
Communication issues
That led to him making a bad call
lmao i bet bro thinks Fusion was more successful than Eternal and Charge in 2020 mf 2nd place apologist
where were fusion
playoffs
?
oh thats right
fourth
and yes fusion was better than charge and eternal
in terms of prize money
yes because playoffs defines a good season 
therefore they were the most succesful
yeah but no titles
to show for it
imagine thinking money = good team
or owner
Seoul Dynasty making bank off two finals appearances
in season 5?
well did dynasty make more money
than fusion
if they did, they had more success
if they didn't, i would rather have fusions roster
that's true, but more success does not equal better team
assuming player costs are similar
Creative > Alarm 
and i dont care if u have a better team or not
it's all about the money
for esports owners
thats how i would defnie a team as more succesful
therefore shock is clearly the most succesful team
in the league
mf thinks we care about some millionaires and not the players
i care more about an organization than a handful of players
the players success is all that matters to smart people im not a dick rider
sadly
but that's just me
if you had to make me choose between an esports org and 6 or so players
those 6 or so players
are getting kicked
also who are u going to argue above shcok @hot onyx
genuinely curious if u can name a team
or youre just troll
for 1st?
ye
#sparktheworld
support line ?
remember its all good to cope
but at the end of the season
spark will be nowhere near shock
its all good to cope apac simps
you're right it is all good to cope, keep it up 💪
but at the end of the season
you're gonna have another midseason madness
moment
you wanna talk what happened to ur beloved apack
bro thinks Shock are close to Spark the cope is unreal
in that tourney?
who is ur off tank ?
where is lige's team ?
#unemployed
it is no shock that the unemployed person
where is liges mental health?
i mean you can keep coping all you want
but please do it privately
don't inflict it upon the masses
where was apac midseason madness?
Maybe this year a chinese flex support makes playoffs 💀
or playoffs ?
thats asking too much
a chinese team wont even get 8th
3 O2 Blast players and they didn't even sign the objectively best pickup
apac is just too bad
While 3 AMERICAN FLEX SUPPS made playoffs
sad copium
what a fraud org
agree
Which proves
AMERICA ON TOP
most attentive shock fan
Landon rupal uv>monk faraway
Molly
like hangzhou
Imo
real
Crimzo did better than every chengdu player while on Boston 😭🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
sadly proper did not have fleta
proper owned lip slave style
so his weight was marginally slimmer
he had mikeyy
A solid player
better than fates corpse imo
real
Hellfire i understand that you need the copium
what copium
since your team is about to surpass Fusion
lol
for most second places
shock will make fusion 2nd
in 2nd places
also @hot onyx has fusion won
Imagine being 2nd to last in apack
With LEAVE
has infernal won
ur right but jinmu and leave were at least on par with him imo
and mmonk prob
bro is stuck in the past 😭
Ok
thats the only thing i can roast
since ur present roster
wont ever see 4th place
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
u peaked in 2018 lil bro
talk about Shock and you have to time travel three years for any sort of argument 😭
?
?
are you like stupid
or just in denial
there was a reason i was able to yell at mikeyy in grand finals
yeah i wasnt able to yell at carpes dead body
for 7 games straight
for missing more shots than hybrid
but i was able to yell proper's name
since he sj gapped profesional hs players
as a flex dps....
Hes a GF level player
Imho
if u have proper on ur team
you are a gf level player
living grandparent check?
i have ?
Malthel isnt
He cant
proper would have carried shanghai to top 4
real
Lip managed to carry two dead weight shitters and two midders to a destruction of a map win
vs sf cock
imagine what he can do with a superstar level team
mikey or coluge was in during that map doesnt count
lose ?
cause thats the only thing
shanghai players know
LOL
the ball 1 trick
so clearly your analysis is fraudulent
o2 had babel
not a worse team
LOL
babel is so bad that even unter couldnt roast him
junbin owns all tanks in the leauge
his mental would break from maxwell's immense coaching pressure
excluding reiner
so good*
he roasted kevster
there was zero misplay
and fastro
to speak of
2 incredible players
