esports-discussion

[willow drum]

I get that

[cedar oasis]

not the cops

your mom

[willow drum]

It’s 2023

[cedar oasis]

she got handcuffs and everything

[willow drum]

And you’re acting like a middle schooler

Despite being double their age

(28)

[cedar oasis]

hellfire

buddy

[willow drum]

This is why you will never hit diamond imo….

So stfu thx!

[cedar oasis]

im begging

stop talking like a 12 year old every day

just one day

[willow drum]

I will boost you later

[cedar oasis]

one day

pls

do it for me

[willow drum]

So stfu thx!

Bro calls people gay in 2023 as insult

Blud thinks he’s on to something

🗿🗿🗿

So stfu thx!

[cedar oasis]

you are a mental barrier sadly

[willow drum]

So stfu thx

[cedar oasis]

you somehow manage to tilt more then mike

[willow drum]

So stfu thx!

[willow drum]

Still 2 ranks higher than you lol

[cedar oasis]

also stop copy me

So stfu thx!

[willow drum]

Gold is Bowol lobby

[cedar oasis]

So stfu thx!

[willow drum]

Bro had to copy me

[cedar oasis]

2 ranks?

im plat

[willow drum]

Go back to running from the cops

[cedar oasis]

you hit masters?

[willow drum]

Gold ?

[cedar oasis]

plat?

could have sworn im plat in 2 ranks

[willow drum]

Weren’t you like gold 3

[cedar oasis]

strange

[willow drum]

on like tank

[cedar oasis]

nope

[willow drum]

Ok my bad

One rank

[cedar oasis]

i thought ur people are ment to be good at remembering stuff?

[willow drum]

?

What does he mean by that

[cedar oasis]

?

[limpid grail]

?

[uncut drum]

?

[rapid scroll]

bruh

💀

[limpid grail]

i'm stil laughing at this 20 minutes later

[trim shadow]

Interesting chat

[cloud latch]

https://tenor.com/view/what-does-he-mean-by-that-miniklinonline-what-exactly-does-he-mean-by-that-what-does-that-mean-what-is-he-trying-to-say-gif-26252464

[cedar oasis]

what

[daring violet]

i am best owl player

[willow drum]

lol

[north relic]

Uvalo is the most racist here

[wet jewel]

Are the 2020 homestand sprays rare?

[lost thicket]

based

[icy valve]

Only plat kekw

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/osp0418/status/1619585853415903232?s=46&t=A8fDPTuE_C_1ZnnhXa3pUg

Rio (@osp0418)

안녕하세요 리오입니다.
너무 늦게 글을 쓰게됐는데,
전하고싶지 않은 소식뿐이라서 계속 미루게됐습니다.
이번에 팀을 구하는데 실패하고, 군대를 다녀오면서 휴식기를 가지게 될 것 같습니다.
은퇴라고 말하고 싶지 않고,
여전히 팬분들한테 다시 제가 대회를 하는 모습을 보여드리고 싶습니다.

Twitter · Jan 29, 2023, 6:38 AM

[vagrant jacinth]

yo 💀

[cedar oasis]

Why you guys Tring to make this weird

[icy valve]

guxue and faraway are both playing ow right now

Comp

How do they do it? And are they gonna be allowed to compete at the world cup?

I hope so because no Shy, Leave, Jinmu, Guxue and more at the world cup would be a shame

[willow drum]

i doubt

china competes

at world cup

[north relic]

China was auto qualed

[willow drum]

ok

because i thought

snce netease

didnt allow ow in china

no point in participate

but my goat xi jin ping

fixed it

[willow drum]

ok

[next mesa]

vpn

[uncut drum]

might go to the us

and play from there

or somthing like that

or go korea

and play from there

[trim shadow]

Basically signing all the owl players

Or chengdu and guxue

[icy valve]

So they are playing then

W

[north relic]

Chengdu and shy

[raw rapids]

does rank on overwatch go off how much games u win or how good u do in ur matches

[trim shadow]

Definitely shy

[ashen moon]

Do i need a team for overwatch worldcup trials?

[daring violet]

no shit bro

[willow drum]

Both

[hearty comet]

Hello Everyone, can you please help me connect with the overwatch Esports team,

[next mesa]

no

i dont feel like it

[hollow crystal]

Shanghai dragons first win was a powerful moment

[leaden cloud]

can someone explain to me why jq and brig were meta in owl earlier in the year, and now nobody plays them?

what happened to them that made nobody choose them

[quasi blaze]

kiriko and hog, they just got countered and there was better options

[knotty garnet]

They not letting Russia play?

[chilly mauve]

Kiriko introduced hard countered jq, jq also got some nerfs I believe

in general balance patches forced the meta to dva/zarya bap

[willow drum]

no russians

play overwatch

either way

[limpid grail]

no those people up above are lying to you

it was not just kiriko or hog

because hog doesn't exist in actual constructed play because people know how to deal damage

[final musk]

there's also a sort of gatekeeping aspect to meta comps. a hog shows up, you'll instantly see switches that counter him through coordination. meta comps are always a soft end-state where all switches have already happened.

[hot onyx]

ShaDowBurn

[cedar oasis]

Best genji seoul ever had

[cloud latch]

smartest uvalo moment

[cedar oasis]

He was

[hot onyx]

he was

[north relic]

he was

[worthy drum]

he was

[stoic bronze]

Does ranked go from 1-5 or 5-1

[cloud latch]

5 being the lowest 1 being the highest

[wary cave]

1 = good, 5 = Worse

[glad lake]

i never watched or played ow1 but wouldnt pharmercy hard counter goats since most of the tanks cant do anything about it

[static pond]

Ya

It was comp ran by dragons

I think

[earnest leaf]

For majority of goats you could just run the rest of the team

took till stage 3 where dragons ran a weird 4 dps ball comp and barely squeaked out a win

[limpid grail]

most being the key word

dva zen is actually enough to screw up a pharmercy consistently and zen doesn't even have to go anywhere else

goats was oppressive because even the cringe pocket comp run to counter it would still go even
and with said counter comp you trade a good support ult and a dps ult for

Valk (good before moth, decent after nerfs) and barrage

barrage into goats is like

the equivalent of JQ into double sniper

if you get lucky because the enemy team isn't taking note of you, you may get away with it

otherwise it's a trade that can't be revived against a team that excels against sustain

because zarya checks matrix using beam, dva checks the barrage itself using matrix, rein requires at least a quarter of the barrage to kill, zen discords her and is fine with trading, lucio doesn't get hit often and brig dies but she's also brig

I'd have to rewatch but ball comps and stuff like that can abuse the objective and grouped nature of goats to gain high ground and take angles which is just about the only thing the comp loses to straight up

[hazy marsh]

[north relic]

or ana (kariv played one good game)

Viol2t rascal for kariv

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/fei_yaaa/status/1620406337862782976?s=46&t=0A7V7mzC_m15vOaWslJ-vw

fei (@fei_yaaa)

Molly has announced his retirement on Weibo:

Twitter · Jan 31, 2023, 12:59 PM

[hot onyx]

zad

[north relic]

that hurts my Fixa to infernal theory

[hot onyx]

yeah dude, FiXa Molly goes hard

can't wait to see them both in Valorant

[limpid grail]

valorant is a poison that should not have entered the gaming community

sad!!!

[hot onyx]

Valorant is useful like a toilet

nice storage place for fecal matter so that it doesn't stink up the rest of the house

[vagrant jacinth]

sadness

[glass hull]

Question

[hazy marsh]

go ahead

[uncut drum]

That is not how you make friends

[hot onyx]

i made all of my closest friends that way

keep up the good work sushi !!!

[willow drum]

Why are we your closest friends

[hot onyx]

who tf is "we"

[silver bear]

Anyone know somebody at City Wok? Need rice

[uncut drum]

?

[next mesa]

u only have virtual friends sans

we all know that

[hot onyx]

i only have virtual sex with your mother

[next mesa]

i mean true thats the closest thing to real pussy you'll ever get ong

[hot onyx]

oddly transphobic but ok

[plush grail]

find god

[trail perch]

they literally didnt

it was 2 dps, 3 supp 1 tank

or 3 dps 1 tank 2 supp depending on if youngjin was on doom or brig

4dps was chengdu

[trail perch]

you needed a god tier pharamercy as well as a sick ana

and a good widow/sombra to distract the team

otherwise pharah gets run down still

[buoyant kiln]

is there any way to get OWL tokens atm other than buying? am apparently literally 1 token off being able to buy new skin lol

[cedar oasis]

Steal it

[plush grail]

Not possible

Ofc u would steal it uvalo

[buoyant kiln]

[next mesa]

should've watched a few more min 🫰

[cedar oasis]

Who are you again CHAAN?

[plush grail]

Your boyfriens

[glad lake]

oh damn

[cedar oasis]

Hell no

I'm not into black men

[fringe zephyr]

Y’all think Rammatra balanced?

[willow drum]

Kinda

Meta wise yes

[next mesa]

no

ramattra ult needs a rework

[trim shadow]

Esport news anyone?

[uncut drum]

None

We need more Announcements

[trim shadow]

Teams being shady and shy about announcements

[uncut drum]

I understand APAC

But na

Like announce your rosters

[earnest leaf]

tbf most rosters are only adding a couple people at most from those that haven't announced

justice/nyxl are the ones doing total rebuilds I think

[tiny pollen]

i wanna see those rosters

[twin bloom]

You dont wanna see

I promise

[limpid grail]

most excited new york fan

[deft wolf]

new york

[shy fulcrum]

question, do i have to watch streams live on youtube to earn blue tokens or whatever

[sullen berry]

https://esportsadvocate.net/2023/01/chinese-owl-teams-options/

[copper island]

Anyone here know how likely it is I'll get the GM title if I don't play anymore, and I'm GM5 1W-3L ?

[sullen berry]

Think of it this way

If you don't play the game

You won't get it

If you are already GM, you receive the title at the end of the season, also do not finsh your last comp game on a loss

[copper island]

My last game was a win

but the three before were losses

[smoky pulsar]

[pastel elk]

Do you know how to reduce the lag of the game
I am connecting from Asia to America

[cedar oasis]

Move to America

[pastel elk]

Do you have a different way

[hot onyx]

NYXL I understand but other than Team Peps nepotism why not Justice?

[sullen berry]

Travel to Mexico, then immigrate to America

[pastel elk]

Illegal immigrant?

[sullen berry]

depends on how long you stay in mexico

[full lichen]

From what I've heard, lag in American servers has been happening, everyone that I know that plays OW has been complaining about it

[cedar oasis]

Bowol the reason they lag is because they are a continent away...

[full lichen]

You can't read

[north relic]

I haven’t

[north relic]

They aren’t lagging because us servers are laggy

They are lagging because they are from Asia connecting to us servers

[full lichen]

Everyone I know that is inside USA (That actually talks to me) is lagging besides you apparently

[north relic]

They aren’t in the us though

Obviously if you are connecting to a server from another continent you lag

[full lichen]

I was just making a suggestion me guy

[north relic]

that wasn’t a suggestion though

You just said the servers was laggy

[trim shadow]

Well this is depressing

Watching the downfall of owl

[vagrant jacinth]

Yeah

Sucks

[plush grail]

imagine being a chinese investor

not only did u never see a profit

now theres a chance the team you paid for just dissapears

[trim shadow]

And i read basic blizzard just shut down in china like 3-4 days ago

[cursive cypress]

How time remain to buy owl shop skins ?

[tiny pollen]

No signings I slumber

[cedar oasis]

Bowol pls stay in school

[full lichen]

I'm planning on it

[cedar oasis]

Good

And you should also think about what you say so you don't look like a dumbass

[plush grail]

uvalo acting like the dad he never had

[cedar oasis]

Tru

I'm a dad to all these fatherless children

Don't want them ending up like you ian

[mystic patio]

do yall know the exact date when OWL starts? i want league tokens 😅

[plush grail]

It never starts again for People like u

[mystic patio]

💀

[willow drum]

No exact details

Expect early April

[mystic patio]

bruh thats when i move across america 💀

[cloud latch]

it'll last for a few months lol

[cedar oasis]

[stone crane]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-do-it-gif-24435329

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1006759712689225812/1009352749747544155/B7B534E1-6301-4EB6-BB8D-9B0A0F36EF65.gif

[opaque nexus]

who wants to join the ow world cup trials

for an ez 2k bucks lmao

[unkempt jungle]

me

i play dps wbu?

[opaque nexus]

no u dont

u play tank

[unkempt jungle]

?

what

[stuck inlet]

Any Puerto Rican players for the World Cup?

[willow drum]

its scam

[cyan mountain]

anyone here masters or higher?

[limpid grail]

what exactly do you want to know

[wise knot]

yeah wassup?

[hot onyx]

inside sources say that the 2023 LA Valiant roster will consist of Pineapple Seawave Na1st Jasm1ne Donghak Century and Simple

[icy valve]

just hitted masters 5 this season hahaha

eu tho lol

[north relic]

only high sr players in this chat (plat 5+)

[hot onyx]

hey thats me!

[vagrant jacinth]

What do outside sources say

[hot onyx]

outside sources say my sources are unreliable but they can suck my nuts

[vagrant jacinth]

King

[sullen berry]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxOzVX2xxBbBd6a4x632sVR8ctAb-_5Mzr look at what ladder has done to Toyou's junkerqueen

[trail perch]

s1mple csgo???

[full lichen]

Lol

[balmy wolf]

who would be the best all around player?

proper is the best or there is better solos?

[karmic charm]

???? you said high sr (silver 5) not pro players (plat 5) ????

silver is very high sr tyvm

I deserve to be here

[willow drum]

its probably proper

he's the most dominant player

on dps

no other player is as dominant on their respective roles

[hot onyx]

Innovation

[willow drum]

hes so good

i forgot him

[north relic]

Lip fucks him

[willow drum]

calm down

youve never seen

lip genji

or lip echo

[north relic]

it would fuck

[willow drum]

you only saw him be

0-2

against proper

where was

the fucking

?

i only saw the getting fucked

[tiny pollen]

Proper owns lip

[willow drum]

rare carrot W

[hot onyx]

to be fair

Proper didn't have to deadlift Fleta and Fate

[twin bloom]

Switch mikeyy coluge with fate void and Lip is up 2-0

Imho

[hot onyx]

tbf

Void was still good

Fate was terrible though

[twin bloom]

Coluge made him in the midseason

Mandness

[hot onyx]

oh yeah Coluge was better for sure

but Void still held his own, as opposed to Fate who couldn't even put up a fight against Belosrea

like when Void and WhoRU were fielded full time in SS they won a title

[north relic]

dominated

[hot onyx]

exactly

they only lost like 3 maps all tourney

then Fleta and Fate come back into the mix for the playoffs and they only win 1 map

[twin bloom]

They lose to steadison

If they play NA

[hot onyx]

they probably do

[north relic]

they lose to hanbin

[hot onyx]

but they still put up a fight

[north relic]

Do better than shock

[hot onyx]

yeah they probably go like 1-4

vs Fuel

in a respectable matchup given how dominant Fuel were in joats

[stark finch]

what teams got the remaining spots in the wild card?

[cedar oasis]

Edison is that guy

[stark finch]

i found it

nvm

[cunning patrol]

Mid player

Who lip would absolutely obliterate

Lol

[hot onyx]

Hanbin solos

[cloud latch]

FiXa to infernal!! 💯 🔥

[willow drum]

Bro is sucking off steady edy

[cloud latch]

bro doesn't know that he was on atl 🤭

[willow drum]

Shits crazy

[twin bloom]

And shd still lose to him

Its sad really

[chrome crater]

Why is there an arnold sticker😂 love it

[shell swallow]

Bit of a random question, but what role is usually shot calling for the pro OWL teams? I assumed it was pretty much always the tank for a long time, but recently I’ve been hearing more and more that a lot of the Main Supports are doing it. Does anyone have any extra insight on that?

[earnest leaf]

it will depend on every team

Generally dps players are quieter so more often people who shot call are supports/tanks

But everyone should be doing it, should never have one person trying to manage that all

[shell swallow]

Of course and I definitely agree. I just had heard of some teams using MS as their primary calls and hadn't thought of it before. I always knew they were usually the primary ult tracker, but not primary shot calling.

[earnest leaf]

everyone should also be ult tracking

[trim shadow]

Flex and main support and main tank most of the time are primary shot callers

[limpid grail]

the reason why main support players can shotcall a lot of the time is because they play easy characters
who can get a view or sense of the battlefield through positioning and focus on supporting the team

if we consider lucio brig mercy and uhh

zen isn't really main, heck the role was built around flexing off him

but lucio brig mercy are very team support oriented with funny mobility that contributes to their survivability

mercy also has the least amount of stuf going on typically

tank is now also important in that role because there's only one
and you have to tango with the other tank constantly

[static pond]

Why a paragraph

Lol

[tiny pollen]

dps and fs are too hard mechanically to shotcall

[cloud latch]

is fs hard mechanically? I dont really think so tbh

[keen cargo]

i guess you could have an ana shotcalling who they sleep or anti

but is that rly shotcalling or r they just doing callouts

[hot onyx]

idk how big of news this is but i just saw LeeSooMin (flex support for SPG) wearing a Seoul Dynasty skin in a MN3 stream 🤯🤯🤯

(the off season is drier than Bagman)

[regal nest]

I have the greatest idea in the history of mankind for dooms ult. I think that to buff his ult odom should be able to bring down a small rock from space the size of him and it would work like bastions ult but you land where your first impact is and the meteor is a sperate dmg field

[icy valve]

Spg is not a bad team so a few of those being picked up by Seoul dynasty is def a good thing

But there were bigger fish in the sea

Maybe they pick up Sanguinar. Or pick up Topdragon aswell

If they are then able to pick up someone like Al1en or someone else they should have a decent roster on paper

Maybe get back Creative in case of a double flex support meta? Or maybe Krillin if creative is to expensive

[hot onyx]

flex supports in contenders kr should be cheap af

considering how many big names were getting picked up and are still on the market

[hot onyx]

Creative is most likely too expensive and would be starting over LeeSooMin

[north relic]

probably 8-5 range

In na

[karmic charm]

how many teams in na this season?

13?

[hot onyx]

13

[north relic]

same amount

Everyone other than spark is irrelevant in apac

[hot onyx]

Charge and Fusionfernal

[north relic]

they get fixa

unlucky

[hot onyx]

i will send hate in rostons mailbox if fixa comes back

[north relic]

• no aprita

Reign shock Houston Dallas are probably top 4

In that order

[hot onyx]

https://twitter.com/rostonyoo/status/1591274291932573697?s=20

Roston Yoo (@rostonyoo)

We gave our season everything we had but we fell short of our goals. Every one of the 2022 season players has been a blessing and there’s still a chance we work with them again, but we wanted to stay as flexible as possible to start the offseason. The goal is 2023 OWL champions.

Likes

550

Twitter · Nov 12, 2022, 3:38 AM

looking at this tweet again sends shivers down my spine

"every one of the 2022 season players has been a blessing and there's still a chance we work with them again"

[north relic]

Fixa coming home

[hot onyx]

in 2020?

probably with Shock + Carpe Alarm

in the present day?

probably with an above average fdps to counter Fleta's washed up corpse

[north relic]

Make a Mickey Mouse meta involving road hog

And bench fearless with a bottom main tank

[north relic]

This is cope

Fusion didn’t beat shanghai once in 2020

unless you are adding carpe alarm to shock

Which doesn’t really make sense

[plush grail]

stfu sans

[hot onyx]

i'm saying Carpe Rascal Striker ChoiHyoBin smurf Moth Alarm solos the 2020 Dragons

[north relic]

ans rascal striker choi Smurf moth Viol2t also solo 2020 dragons

[hot onyx]

they probably do

but Carpe and Alarm were better

[plush grail]

in what world does adding carpe to 2020 shock help them in any way????

didnt ans/striker peak in 2020

[north relic]

Cassidy Ashe

[hot onyx]

the world where they need double hitscan

[north relic]

is better

Carpe cass

I busted

[hot onyx]

that is also true

and his widow was equal

[plush grail]

proper

[hot onyx]

< zest

[north relic]

Pooper

[plush grail]

sans winston

[north relic]

Hasbeen

The goat

[willow drum]

Lol utter delusion

Placing Dallas

And shock second

[north relic]

Who do you have instead of fuel

[twin bloom]

Bottom 5

IMHO

[hot onyx]

i agree

Outlaws is easily top 2

[willow drum]

its going to be

[north relic]

Waiting

[willow drum]

spark

[north relic]

Justifiable

[willow drum]

yes very

leave shy

vs sparkle edison

hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

imo

[north relic]

Mcd sucks (he uses nano confirmation)

[willow drum]

agreed

Its

Shock

---

Reign
Outlaws

---

Spark
Dallas

[north relic]

Reign above shock and it looks good

[hot onyx]

Outlaws and Spark above Reign and it looks good

(they do not have Gator coaching)

[north relic]

Reign szn

[willow drum]

shut up

hawk is holding that roster back

[hot onyx]

shonk are sadly the most flexible superstar team that will win most titles next season

[willow drum]

shock r heavy favorites

next dzn

[hot onyx]

Hawk only holds the roster back as a solo tank

always room to make a midseason acquisition

like RpEN

#goat

[willow drum]

mid player

that sadly gets cleared by junbin

on every hero

[hot onyx]

anybody that said your life matters does not have relevant opinions

[willow drum]

you are unemployed

[hot onyx]

fraudulent RpEN fanclub member

[willow drum]

and uneducated

and not in serverce

or any enrollment

eveb maxwell is better than rpen

on monkey

who tf is rpen

[hot onyx]

better than Unique

[north relic]

Lip is in the team

Doesn’t matter

[willow drum]

thats like saying

i have better aim than bowol

😭

[willow drum]

lip?

who the fuck is lip

the player 0-2 against mikeyy?

[hot onyx]

the player with more titles than Proper in 2022

[willow drum]

if you put proper

in apac

he wins every

single

title

except MM

[hot onyx]

depends which player he replaces

[willow drum]

fixa and aimgod

got second

that region is garbo

worth less than your microwaved eggs

[hot onyx]

to be fair

Dragons had internet problems in kc

and the dps line deadlifted them

that is more a statement on MN3 ZEST being goats rather than apac being a fraud region

[willow drum]

what goats

[hot onyx]

the players that carried a bottom 5 backline to 2nd 4th MM and 3rd

[willow drum]

?

you mean

the best main support in the world

carried proper's bitch #1

and proper's bitch #2

[hot onyx]

?

top analysts disagree with ur statement

[twin bloom]

Nothing wrong with that

Imo

[willow drum]

No goat is 0-2 against mikeyy

[hot onyx]

Kevster is 1-3 against Mikeyy

(he won where it mattered)

[twin bloom]

Alot are imo

[cedar oasis]

Apac sucks

They don't have any goats

Lip is na

Poopah is na

Hanbin is na

Fielder is na

Chiyo is na

Rush is na

[north relic]

Shy leave

[cedar oasis]

Only 1 goat per role sadly

[north relic]

Then why is fielder there

and not shu

[cedar oasis]

Just like Messi winning the world Cup fielder won grand finals

So shu has to hold 2nd place like Ronaldo

[north relic]

shu is better on every fs relevant fs other than kiriko

[north relic]

Guriyo won grand finals

[cedar oasis]

He didn't play

Fielder did

And was the goat

[north relic]

shu is better

[cedar oasis]

Where was shu the 2nd half of the season

Invisible

L

[north relic]

where was fielder first half invisible

L

[cedar oasis]

He was 3rd..

[north relic]

third when

Fuel vs glads was not close

[cedar oasis]

First half of the season

[north relic]

it was like a 4-0

and Dallas did nothing in mid season madness

[cedar oasis]

Shu was not even top 3 second half of the season

[north relic]

Bro only accounts placement when talking about skill

[cedar oasis]

The funny thing is dallas beats every team that isn't shock or glads first half of the season

[north relic]

shu was marginally better though

[cedar oasis]

Cope

[north relic]

First half

[cedar oasis]

Cope

[north relic]

Dallas lost to Fusion

[cedar oasis]

That's a one off

Wait

Shouldn't you be in school

?

No wonder you fail Chinese...

[hot onyx]

remind me what happened in their first match of the season

[hot onyx]

lmao that's true how embarrassing

Shu would never lose to Fusion

[cedar oasis]

That's always an L

[icy valve]

Man not being able to speak korean in Lip chat sucks:( want to know what they are saying lol

I just subbed to Lip the goat of hitscan

[hot onyx]

lip with the $5

[icy valve]

I mean both Shu and Fielder are great fs. Both can be said are better then the other. I prefer Fielder but Shu still good

[icy valve]

every bits help if the league doesn't survive lol

Don't laugh at me hahah

[hot onyx]

spend your money how you want it's a free solar system

[icy valve]

true

[hot onyx]

i just have a gut feeling that he doesn't need it

[icy valve]

never said that he needed it

Well wait

I did kinda.

Well I just wanted to support my Reign player hahaha

[cedar oasis]

Stop it

Get some help

[trail perch]

i just realized

lee jae won

lee jae gon

[limpid grail]

😱

[trail perch]

thats why they were so good s4

the leejae duo

[hot onyx]

the matrix has been breached

[willow drum]

Yeah but Messi and Ronaldo had similar accomplishments

They were even before the WC

Not the case for shu vs fielder

IMHO

[cedar oasis]

I think fielder has more titles then shu even without gf

Isn't it 2-3

[willow drum]

Are you like

[loud elbow]

titles don't matter because Shu is the better player

[willow drum]

Okay

It’s 3 - 4

Shu has more titles

[loud elbow]

Shu outperforms Fielder especially on Baptiste

[willow drum]

And zen

[cedar oasis]

I remember 2 this year

[willow drum]

Just not kiriko

[cedar oasis]

1 last year?

[willow drum]

1 from s3

As well

[cedar oasis]

S3

[willow drum]

Charge

Summer showdown

[cedar oasis]

Oh ok

[willow drum]

So shu was technically better

[cedar oasis]

Unfortunately I have recency bias

[hot onyx]

Hellfire I thought grand finals held more weight than stage titles?

[cedar oasis]

Wait

[willow drum]

are you like dumb

im not counting

grand finals

[cedar oasis]

Fielder has4?

[willow drum]

in titles

here

[cedar oasis]

Paris 1

[willow drum]

yeah this is before

this year

finals

[hot onyx]

hypocrisy is not a part of my democracy

[cedar oasis]

So fielder has more titles then shu

Before this season

And after the halfway point in the season

[willow drum]

How am I being hypocrite

[willow drum]

No he doesn’t

Shu had 2 before this season

So did fielder

[cedar oasis]

So it's 4-4

Yea 4-4

But fielder won gf

[hot onyx]

you have been known for believing a grand finals win carries more weight than a stage final win

and are now saying it does not to fit your narrative

[cedar oasis]

Sans hellfire is Chinese

[hot onyx]

ah my bad

[tiny pollen]

glads just had bad meta and shu was an ok kiriko

and 2021 summer showdown isnt a real title

[hot onyx]

冰淇淋 @willow drum

[willow drum]

thats not what im saying

you imbecile

my argument is that before

the "grand finals or wc if u will"

shu was better than fielder

it was never anything about how much the gf was worth

[cloud latch]

#FIXA2INFERNAL

[tiny pollen]

fixa sweep

[cedar oasis]

Hellfire stop bullying sans

[cloud latch]

🔥 Introducing @hot onyx's SEOUL INFERNAL 🔥
🛡️ ITSAL
🛡️ SASIN
⚔️ guriyo
⚔️ ZEST
⚔️ Finale
💉 BeBe
💉 Myunb0ng
💉 FiXa

[hot onyx]

FiXa sweeps his own team imo

[hot onyx]

why'd you replace Architect?

[cloud latch]

you said you liked the team since it didn't have zest or mn3

[north relic]

I’m chilling

🔥 Introducing @hot onyx's SEOUL INFERNAL 🔥
🛡️ ITSAL
🛡️ SASIN
⚔️ guriyo
⚔️ ZEST
⚔️ Finale
💉 BeBe
💉 Myunb0ng
💉 FiXa

[hot onyx]

changing the roster for the sake of intentional malice i see

[cedar oasis]

sans you cant even say intentional without stuttering

[hot onyx]

good one

[limpid grail]

cold take

guriyo good

[plush grail]

his voice

hell

[cursive cypress]

They will add Mma Mei owl skin ? I really want it 💓🐧

[sullen berry]

现在我有冰淇淋 (Sans is very cool and well informed)

[sullen berry]

NZ > NA

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/silentstormauow/status/1621519051230158849?s=46&t=LBCJqg9kCKd5OFPcrOQ5ig

스톰 (@SilentStormAuOW)

Guriyo says he did a bunch of tests for teams but he thinks he didn't do very well so it's unlikely he will have an OWL contract this year

:(

Twitter · Feb 3, 2023, 2:40 PM

sadriyo

[limpid grail]

dang it

[hot onyx]

🍦🛏️

[hot onyx]

absolutely devastating that no teams want a hitscan that provides a free title

[sullen berry]

Did he consider chengdu and they still didn't want to play with Koreans while in korea

Because I can see another frustrating season for every Chinese team playing from Korea

[static pond]

Tbh apac sounds like they go for him

Since seems like there take whatever players they can get

[plush grail]

wow big surprise

a bench warmer not able to find a team

[cedar oasis]

Tbh

Guriyo is too good for Vegas

But too bad for any other team

[north relic]

rakattack is a goat

[twin bloom]

No he isnt

[cunning patrol]

Dove betta

[cursive cypress]

I should buy mercy Atlantic’s skin ? Or wait for mma Mei owl skin ? 🥺

[tiny pollen]

dove > guriyo

[cloud latch]

dove > guriyo

[cloud latch]

buy mercy's

her skin is WAYYYYY better than mei's

[cursive cypress]

Mercy skin was very rare since 2018/2019 😱

I waited many years to find it again

[sand bronze]

Then its not a hard choice

[worn falcon]

https://i.redd.it/v8bm70vhn7ga1.png

What is even this

[full lichen]

Sweden is gonna be like second best European team

[cloud latch]

is this world cup

[worn falcon]

Yes

[cloud latch]

I wanna see sweden vs germany

[hot onyx]

Kevster SparkR vs Cookie084 Phi

[static pond]

They announce the teams already?

[worn falcon]

Nothing official, speculation based on nationality

That's why my "what is even this"

[static pond]

Hoping to see lip and proper duo in World Cup

Random question

Do y’all think that shock was trying to get lip?

[earnest leaf]

wouldn't be too surprised if they had their feelers out

But also they might not have wanting to stick to younger rookies they can mold better and who had better synergy with the current roster

[icy valve]

Nah I don’t think Shock even wanted Lip. Because I think the plan for them was very clear that they wanted to sign Heesang

I most likely think most of the hitscan will be played by Proper this season considering he is a hyperflex

[hot onyx]

rumours say Shock has Heesu

Heesu Heesang alone is a deadly dps line without adding the best dps player not named MN3 or ZEST in the game in the mix

[cedar oasis]

Mn3 or zest are not even top 3

Mn3 is barley top 7...

[hot onyx]

least deluded na andy

[cedar oasis]

Na Andy..

Apac just sucks

Last season they had 1 good team...

[hot onyx]

yeah

Spark

#sparktheworld

it's not fair to compare the other mortal teams to such a godlike squad

+superbich

[sullen berry]

I'm scrolling through my DMs and remember this important announcement from the totally real Fury

[hot onyx]

his english is very good

[hot onyx]

https://twitter.com/Hangzhou_Spark/status/1622235163878133760?s=20

Hangzhou Spark (@Hangzhou_Spark)

Happy Lantern Festival! 🎇🏮#HangzhouSpark

Twitter · Feb 5, 2023, 2:06 PM

god damn it

i was expecting some roster announcement

[trim shadow]

[cedar oasis]

Spark?

That team sucks

[hot onyx]

they finished higher than Fuel in Midseason Madness

[north relic]

leave shyyy

can not be bad

[cedar oasis]

Sadly

Changoon diffed his own team

[north relic]

changoon iiisnt on spark

[desert stirrup]

sparkle gigachad

[static pond]

Think they said it be towards the end of this month

[cloud latch]

@worthy drum is this you?

[worthy drum]

yes

the doom kept getting hooked and slept

and it was a backfill

[cloud latch]

yeah I was the ana 🥱

[worthy drum]

:{

[cloud latch]

btw I left esperanca cause I don't like that map

[slow surge]

Will there be a 2023 schedule?

[willow drum]

Eventually yea

[slow surge]

Nice

I’m new to the Overwatch universe so

[turbid nova]

semen

[willow drum]

The New York Excelsior, one of the top teams in the Overwatch League, has signed three highly skilled Overwatch players, Lip, Hanbin, and Shu, to their roster. This move is expected to greatly enhance the team's performance and solidify their position as one of the top contenders in the league. Fans of the New York Excelsior and Overwatch are eagerly anticipating what these talented players will bring to the table, as they look to make their mark in the competitive scene. The signing of Lip, Hanbin, and Shu is a significant step forward for the New York Excelsior, as they strive to build a championship-winning roster and bring home the title.

[north relic]

didn’t know you were a nixel fan

[icy valve]

KEKW

[frosty patrol]

The New York Excelsior, one of the top teams in the Overwatch League, has signed three highly skilled Overwatch players, Lip, Hanbin, and Shu, to their roster. This move is expected to greatly enhance the team's performance and solidify their position as one of the top contenders in the league. Fans of the New York Excelsior and Overwatch are eagerly anticipating what these talented players will bring to the table, as they look to make their mark in the competitive scene. The signing of Lip, Hanbin, and Shu is a significant step forward for the New York Excelsior, as they strive to build a championship-winning roster and bring home the title.

[uncut drum]

The New York Excelsior, one of the top teams in the Overwatch League, has signed three highly skilled Overwatch players, Lip, Hanbin, and Shu, to their roster. This move is expected to greatly enhance the team's performance and solidify their position as one of the top contenders in the league. Fans of the New York Excelsior and Overwatch are eagerly anticipating what these talented players will bring to the table, as they look to make their mark in the competitive scene. The signing of Lip, Hanbin, and Shu is a significant step forward for the New York Excelsior, as they strive to build a championship-winning roster and bring home the title.

[vital badger]

The New York Excelsior, one of the top teams in the Overwatch League, has signed three highly skilled Overwatch players, Lip, Hanbin, and Shu, to their roster. This move is expected to greatly enhance the team's performance and solidify their position as one of the top contenders in the league. Fans of the New York Excelsior and Overwatch are eagerly anticipating what these talented players will bring to the table, as they look to make their mark in the competitive scene. The signing of Lip, Hanbin, and Shu is a significant step forward for the New York Excelsior, as they strive to build a championship-winning roster and bring home the title.

[worthy drum]

The New York Excelsior, one of the top teams in the Overwatch League, has signed three highly skilled Overwatch players, Lip, Hanbin, and Shu, to their roster. This move is expected to greatly enhance the team's performance and solidify their position as one of the top contenders in the league. Fans of the New York Excelsior and Overwatch are eagerly anticipating what these talented players will bring to the table, as they look to make their mark in the competitive scene. The signing of Lip, Hanbin, and Shu is a significant step forward for the New York Excelsior, as they strive to build a championship-winning roster and bring home the title.

[cloud latch]

The New York Excelsior, one of the top teams in the Overwatch League, has signed three highly skilled Overwatch players, Lip, Hanbin, and Shu, to their roster. This move is expected to greatly enhance the team's performance and solidify their position as one of the top contenders in the league. Fans of the New York Excelsior and Overwatch are eagerly anticipating what these talented players will bring to the table, as they look to make their mark in the competitive scene. The signing of Lip, Hanbin, and Shu is a significant step forward for the New York Excelsior, as they strive to build a championship-winning roster and bring home the title.

[north relic]

The New York Excelsior, one of the top teams in the Overwatch League, has signed three highly skilled Overwatch players, Lip, Hanbin, and Shu, to their roster. This move is expected to greatly enhance the team's performance and solidify their position as one of the top contenders in the league. Fans of the New York Excelsior and Overwatch are eagerly anticipating what these talented players will bring to the table, as they look to make their mark in the competitive scene. The signing of Lip, Hanbin, and Shu is a significant step forward for the New York Excelsior, as they strive to build a championship-winning roster and bring home the title.

[hot onyx]

The New York Excelsior, one of the top teams in the Overwatch League, has signed three highly skilled Overwatch players, Lip, Hanbin, and Shu, to their roster. This move is expected to greatly enhance the team's performance and solidify their position as one of the top contenders in the league. Fans of the New York Excelsior and Overwatch are eagerly anticipating what these talented players will bring to the table, as they look to make their mark in the competitive scene. The signing of Lip, Hanbin, and Shu is a significant step forward for the New York Excelsior, as they strive to build a championship-winning roster and bring home the title.

[latent mango]

shiii one punch man doom

[worthy drum]

https://twitter.com/leakmafia_OW/status/1622671757269245983

leak mafia (@leakmafia_OW)

heesu shock apparently not happening anymore sorry about that one.

Twitter · Feb 6, 2023, 7:01 PM

[icy valve]

was about to link

@willow drum sorry man Heesu ain't happening pepe sad

[cloud latch]

hellfire sorry for your loss we know this must be tough for you :(

[frosty patrol]

hellfire sorry for your loss we know this must be tough for you :(

[north relic]

hellfire sorry for your loss we know this must be tough for you :(

[buoyant jacinth]

hellfire sorry for your loss we know this must be tough for you :(

[willow drum]

Why does this matter

It’s a good pickup

But they’re still clear favorites

Either way

[icy valve]

tbh you need Junbin more then Heesu ahhaha

[willow drum]

We don’t need either

[buoyant jacinth]

heesu is a bum!!!

[willow drum]

To be better than reign

But sure

Junbin s’more need

[icy valve]

Well I disagree but fair enough

this offseason is so boring btw

[willow drum]

Lol

[cloud latch]

if I were shock I'd want heesu more than junbin only cause I'd want a sombra player ready to go
plus having one tank should be better for synergy I think right?

[willow drum]

Okay

[willow drum]

Delusional take

I feel

[cloud latch]

how

[icy valve]

nah Sombra isn't gonna be meta anytime soon

[willow drum]

Junbin covers half the tank

Heesu covers an very

Very

Niche role

[icy valve]

You don't really NEED a sombra player right now

[willow drum]

In double hitscan and so bra

Sombra

[buoyant jacinth]

heesang (the bitch) can play that bum hero

[cloud latch]

isn't max supposed to cover everything

[icy valve]

I think for Shock you better have someone to cover the mt role which Junbin does perfectly

[buoyant jacinth]

max is an off tank main

[icy valve]

well max mostly plays off tank

[frosty patrol]

yk who else covers this role

[icy valve]

Not saying he can't play mt but Junbin is obv better

[frosty patrol]

anderp to shock

[buoyant jacinth]

and o2 have historically subbed in junbin for winton

[cedar oasis]

I have confidence that crusty the bum will flop

[willow drum]

Shut up

You have mcd

Lol

[cedar oasis]

Shut up

[icy valve]

for ball, rein and other mt he played to

[cedar oasis]

You don't have hessu

[frosty patrol]

mcd should be euthanized

[cedar oasis]

Lol

[icy valve]

Max always played the off tank on O2

[frosty patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/mao-ze-dong-waving-wonderful-fabulous-good-job-gif-12479086

[twin bloom]

If gator can coach a full kr team

ATL can easily beat shock

Imo

[buoyant jacinth]

cope

imo

[twin bloom]

At least in head to heads

[icy valve]

well it will come down to meta and who has the better form imo

[cloud latch]

I do not see shock losing to reign

[icy valve]

But even as a Reign fan Shock prob clears

[buoyant jacinth]

who is atls tank

again

[willow drum]

It’s actual cope I think

[buoyant jacinth]

is it gawk

[willow drum]

Even if hawk is Korean

He gets gapped so hard

[frosty patrol]

hawk (mid)

[icy valve]

not on dva

[twin bloom]

Lip hs>proper HS
Stalker<=heesang
Hawk<=MaxwellfromO2
Chiyo>vindaim
Vigilante and fielder>=finn

Sadly

@willow drum

[buoyant jacinth]

this is all cope

[twin bloom]

Thoughts

[icy valve]

On mostly every other tank i do agree that Max prob clears. But Hawk dva is elite

[buoyant jacinth]

vindaim was nerfed

by playing in an inferior region

last year

[frosty patrol]

chiyo is >= vindaim and lip hs is >= proper hs

imo

[icy valve]

tbf support line of Atlanta and Lip is better then Shock

[twin bloom]

Hawk can easily gap max on dva and doomfist

Max has zarya and sigma

[willow drum]

Lol

[icy valve]

But Shock looks more promising

[twin bloom]

What do you disagree with??!!!

[frosty patrol]

no baaz0 is mostly right

as per usual

my good associate

[willow drum]

Just a lot of greater and equal than

I do not really hard disagree

With anything

[twin bloom]

I still think shock is better

[cloud latch]

it all matters on coaching

[twin bloom]

Just do not think its that big

[icy valve]

Heesang promoter. You can't deny the support line of Atlanta and Lip is better right?

[twin bloom]

Of a gap

[willow drum]

Ok I think vindiesel is better

In Brigitte

[frosty patrol]

rosters are close but there is a substantial coaching and synergy gap

imo

[icy valve]

fair

[twin bloom]

It all depends on how much coaching and friendship matters

Lol

[willow drum]

Lip is a god

Agreed

[twin bloom]

Yeah

[icy valve]

That is fair but brig not looking meta tbh

[willow drum]

Neither is dva

[icy valve]

Also fair

[twin bloom]

If shock get junbin

[willow drum]

Brig Ana

[twin bloom]

They have a massive tank

[willow drum]

Goated

[twin bloom]

Advantage

Imo

But if its still solo OT

[icy valve]

I think if this season it won't change a lot we could see ball being played

[twin bloom]

Than its close

[icy valve]

His buffs for season 3 are crazy

I am shocked to say this tho

[cedar oasis]

Gator=crusty the bum

[willow drum]

Please shut up

Do you want to talk about

[icy valve]

I am a Reign fan but did you just say... Gator equals crusty? You must be trolling right?

[willow drum]

Your flex support

[willow drum]

He thinks they both suck dick

[cedar oasis]

I believe in rush

[icy valve]

this season or wdym

[cedar oasis]

He made a complete shitter a tier

[icy valve]

Oh I see

[cedar oasis]

He can do it again

[icy valve]

except they had to buy the entire EM core to do it

Not the same is it

[cedar oasis]

Edison...

?

Moron

[icy valve]

Edison was never bad. Rush only unlucked his potential

[cedar oasis]

?

[buoyant jacinth]

hanbin was not A tier

imo

[icy valve]

Mcd is beyond saving

[cedar oasis]

So wrong

[buoyant jacinth]

he was a solid D tier

[icy valve]

And Hanbin on every mt just did not work

[buoyant jacinth]

#notmymvp

[willow drum]

Mcd

Cannot be saved

[icy valve]

Hanbin on winston didn't look great at all

[willow drum]

Edison had top tier players to boost him

[cedar oasis]

People said that about edison

[willow drum]

Mcd doesn’t

[cedar oasis]

And look what happened

[willow drum]

Nobody did imo

[icy valve]

Your only hope is getting a offtank meta early

[cedar oasis]

Mcd doesn't have bliss?

Or hanbin

[icy valve]

If you get a mt meta you are fucked

[willow drum]

Ok bar hanbin

Main support is lobby filler

Anyways

[icy valve]

Bliss is a very good ms tho. However Hanbin apart from offtank doesn't really look flexible

[cedar oasis]

OK

Anyway

Where hessu gonna go now then

I'm thinking

[icy valve]

And I am curious how Sp9k1e will do because he has no backup

[cloud latch]

hanbin's rein was def

one of the reins of all time

[willow drum]

Maybe

Apac

[icy valve]

Nah that's cap

[cedar oasis]

To that bum region

[icy valve]

I think Heesu could be going apac yeah

Maybe Shanghai?

[willow drum]

Why not shock lol

I don’t get it

Why not join

[icy valve]

Because leak said it apparently ain't happening

[willow drum]

The winning team

[cedar oasis]

Violet

[buoyant jacinth]

shock don't want that bum

[willow drum]

Wondering why

[cedar oasis]

Kinda toxic imo

[willow drum]

real they want violetta

A better hits an

[icy valve]

idk I think because he wants to live closer to home? idk

[willow drum]

Hitscan

[icy valve]

And tbf Proper Heesang makes you big chilling all year in every meta

[cedar oasis]

Heesu knows he won't win with that bum crusty coaching him

[north relic]

He doesn’t want to get blamed when he gets gapped by lip in grand finals

[icy valve]

how can you say Crusty is a bum with the titles he won and the performances they had

[north relic]

carried

[icy valve]

He would not play in grand finals with Proper Heesang my guy

Let me assure you of that

[north relic]

Hitscan meta

aka sojourn

[icy valve]

even in a hitscan meta he won't play

[willow drum]

Agree

[north relic]

proper got fucked by lip and said never again

[icy valve]

proper exists my guy

[cedar oasis]

Owwc

[north relic]

proper got fucked by lip and said never again

[willow drum]

? 0-2 lil bro

Lip never won against proper

Bro left contenders when proper started gaining power

[icy valve]

tbf Shanghai was straight dogshit last year

[twin bloom]

Shock just had a MASIVE tank advantage

Sadly

[willow drum]

Lol be quiet

It was proper gap

[twin bloom]

I saw mikeyy look like fearless vs fate on map one

[icy valve]

No way Shanghai would win against Shock with that insanely bad team

[twin bloom]

I need that moment

[icy valve]

Lip was the only reason Shanghai stayed relevant last year

[north relic]

Literally had fleta fate

you yourself

Flame fleta a lot hellfire

[willow drum]

Viol2t

Lucio

Luge Monkey

[north relic]

is better than fleta

[willow drum]

Striker

Need I say more

[icy valve]

Fate dogshit, void not wow(only jq meta he was good) Fleta insanely dogshit, whoru only good for genji meta and the support line while good also got gapped by Shock

[icy valve]

you can't say deny how bad Shanghai was lasst year right?

They won the league the year before that to being just bad

[north relic]

You act like your team was bad when then made grand finals and beat good teams

Fate fleta

Or coluge striker