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Ch0r0ng is nuts

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he is top 2 probably

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Faith is pretty good

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I wonder how Ch0r0ng will do on Florida

vagrant cargo
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It's crazy how he went from most wanted rookie support to Florida Inna year

north relic
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yea it’s a sad fate

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my dream roster for Glads would be

Hanbin Kevster Sp9rkle Shu Skewed

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vagrant cargo
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We could've had him

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Hanbin glads was a legit rumor for weeks lmfao

loud elbow
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we REALLY could

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vagrant cargo
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Yall also fumbled twilight

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Kai isn't bad but like, damn Hanbin would've been the fucking DREAM

worthy drum
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but if yall got Hanbin, dallas would be DEAD

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Twilight would also be good, he could fill the Bap role

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but man we almost fucking had Hanbin

hot onyx
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Glads can still sign Clestyn

loud elbow
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Maybe

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but he wouldn't be no Hanbin

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Wait I thought Twilight was rumored for ph- Seoul Infernal

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you know, until boston said hi

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hot onyx
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i have confidence that Clestyn is a better off tank than Kellan

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bruh what

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u talking s3 kevster?

vagrant cargo
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He was

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I mean he was good

vagrant cargo
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He had high ping shit backline and still dominated once he learned how to play genji

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but like i think s4 is when he became like CRAZY good

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like once he got to low ping

vagrant cargo
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Never said S3 was his est season lol

trail perch
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yeah i just dont think he was crazy good

vagrant cargo
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Then start thinking

trail perch
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he def wasnt even top 5 genjis that season

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potentially not even top 5 NA

fast sorrel
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Yes it is

latent axle
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It really is

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I play support and peaked rank 175 🤭🤭🤭

latent axle
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support you have to stay out of All of enemys LOS you have to focus on keeping your team alive while doing a decent amount of damage if you get dived on you have go protect yourself while keeping your team alive

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theres so many things that supports have go handle

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it is definitely not the easiest lmfao

north relic
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Not again

worthy drum
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we finished this already

fast sorrel
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Having good positioning and healing is not hard

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Understanding what role you play in your comp is not hard

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Orisa meta fs

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if you aren’t a great support

fast sorrel
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Just false

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Kiriko is so fucking easy

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Tracer top 3 hero in terms of difficulty

fast sorrel
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Ye

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Tbh dva is easier than in ow1

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I respect dva players so much though

vagrant cargo
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Dva is hella fun too

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Eating grav is a top 3 dopamine hit

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Along with pulsing a tracer and blocking a shatter then shattering

cedar harness
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eating ults in ow1 was easier than ow2

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scrims made it easier as a OT that and decent players in general ult track and know what they have so players that played mostly dva in scrims knew what they could eat and most the time you can track what a player is going to do for example if a rein is looking for shatter or zarya for grav or mei for blizz etc etc

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ow2 shits much harder tho on dva having to pay attention to that if thats your plan on winning a fight is eating grav or mei ult or pulse

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or dragons

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tbh I don’t play around it it’s just a bonus if the zarya has a tell

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Tracking is a lot easier with scoreboard now

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you should never be surprised if rein has a 20 second shatter now

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idk maybe im biast though my duo partner/girlfriend was a dva one trick in overwatch 1 and i was a ana 1 trick she was like 3.9 avg peak and i was 4.2 but we played on the same team and played in scrims together at eachothers houses and stuff so i learned a lot from her shes got like 1500 hours on dva @north relic

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bias *

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im saying i could be wrong with what i said earlier because i have over 1000 hours of play time with someoen who only plays dva

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I don’t think eating an ult is reliable enough to be a fight plan imo

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so my thought process could be different then others

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no it isn't in overwatch 2

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to much to look at it

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she still can eat ults in ow2 but one tricking dva she just cant she barely played hog and sig and has forced her self to learn those heros at the cost of going from 3.9 to diamond 1

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dva one trick things

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dva is really strong rn imo it’s just that hog/orisa is meta

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yeah dva is good when the team plays around it

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but in ladder if your team isn't willing to play with a dva it doesn't go well usually it ends up in a shit talk fest

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i que lower ranks just to play with her from time to time and having a duo is helpful but still sucks when you get like a mercy one trick or a zen one trick and you physically can not play fast on dva

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after the hog rework, who wants to bet they wont touch orisa

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its such an overwatch dev thing to do

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nerf fortify and she seems fine

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I kinda liked that she was slow during it but they removed that

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Mid season madness was the perfect meta

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but everything changed when the new heroes attacked

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only jeff master of balance changes could stop them

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But when the world needed him the most he vanished

latent axle
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i assure you it isn't

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i am about to hit diamond on support it is literally a free role

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it's the hardest role to solo queue with but that's the only thing that is hardest as a support

north relic
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it’s not hard to solo queue either

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unless you are a mercy main

hot onyx
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when you have been plat and gold it is difficult to rely on shitters

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hot onyx
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whereas on dps or tank you can take the carry into your own hands

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i choose not to throw the game

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if you healbot and don’t die (not hard) you will have an above 50% wr

hot onyx
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if you get boosted then yes but support is the hardest role to carry on

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you don’t need to carry to rank up

hot onyx
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you do if you're hard stuck below diamond

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no you just have to be slightly better than your rank to rank up

hot onyx
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i'm not gonna rely on john the soldier main to bring my rank up

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It just requires a lot of playtime

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I’ve seen them

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i've never seen them

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without a booster

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He reached masters as a solo queue mercy main

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He isn’t good

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I watched his stream for 20 seconds and he died in comp ctf

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he's just the goat

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it's the games fault for allowing him to die

limpid grail
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I feel like people seriously overestimate how bad solo q is

fast sorrel
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Tank and dps are much harder than support

limpid grail
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mmmmmm depends on rank imo

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if you play the funny hook tank maybe sure

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Tank u have to manage soaking dmg, your own hp, cooldowns, peeling for your backline/dps, target prio

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limpid grail
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I believe there is a point after you gain overwatch self awareness where playing support is more difficult than tank or dps

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limpid grail
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and that's in the lower ranks

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because unless you are playing she who shall not be named
if you have no clue how to play the game then you're throwing on support

fast sorrel
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So if you're bad you'll be bad?

limpid grail
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ah yes astute observation

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I'm saying at least dps and tanks can point at the enemy and get kills in lower ranks where gamesense and positioning is obscure
if you do the same as a support well that's how you lose fights often

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I'm biased because I don't think tank is a particularly difficult role

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but support gets dumped on when they still have to do what a dps does
but help their teammates as well

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which is why the concept of mercy is annoying

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as for peeling
OW 2 is honestly the most peel for yourself the game has ever been

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whats the meta rn
hog mercy kiriko sojourn hitscan or something in that general ball park

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those two basically don't have to worry because one is always attached to sojourn
and the other can flank whenever she wants

latent axle
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^

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i climbed from bronze to GM as a solo q support

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was horrible

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although it is definitely overestimated

willow drum
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Supports easy

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As in its incredibly easy to do your job

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And if you have the time you climb on support

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As long as u do the basics

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You can have gold mechanics and make masters on support

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Easy role to play

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Not so easy to rank up

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Missed 3 suzus in a row

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hot onyx
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oh yeah Ig they aren't trying this year

hot onyx
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that is a FunnyAstro to FiXa downgrade

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well Ig they can sign clestyn

hot onyx
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Clestyn slander is kinda false ngl

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false will have a better team than clestyn

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Idk why we are comparing a tank player with a dps player though

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@hot onyx

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it does not protect you sadly

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i am built different

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sans ascends whenever someone posts a fusion player who is not mn3 zest

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They were good suzu

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I chose to not save you

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Cause ur shit

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💀

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I carried that game

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uvalo was the real carry

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Don’t doubt the second carpe

cloud latch
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what game are y'all talking about

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just looking at his face infuriates sans

hot onyx
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imo fixa was the best available player after zest got injured

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sans exposed his coordinates

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if i were a londoner i would be a stab victim in a morgue

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he is the reason fusion got second

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Kickoff clash

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precisely

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without him they would've potentially placed first

north relic
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Yes they get nowhere near with someone like vindaim

hot onyx
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yeah Vindaim was carried by Creative

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finally sans is having good takes

hot onyx
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all my takes have been good

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you like clestyn

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i am one of the few people that had confidence in London being better than Boston

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i believed in Spark being a top 3 apac team and they were top 1 at the end of the season

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i believed in Gladiators being title contenders and they won two tournaments convincingly

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Creative is just the Ana goat

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Alarm Twilight and Shu would like a word

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You forgot

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Fielder

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oh yeah that guy too

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He’s the goat

hot onyx
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that title belongs to Alarm

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imo

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My goat has won a title

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And played more than two seasons

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imo

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If you didn’t have London last you were dumb

hot onyx
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Nice titans take

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that was before my Titans copium combined with Fusion hatred wore off

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after i cooled off i realised that i should place them normally instead of a best case scenario meta

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Nice outlaws take

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shock is so low

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Outlaws Shock was a literal coin toss

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sans send my list

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It wasn’t

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cloud latch
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it's in our dms

icy valve
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It was

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and I don't have regular

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Kilo merit were deemed equal preseason

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Proper gaps pelican

hot onyx
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Coluge vs piggy solo tank

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Pelican literally won roty

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If you followed contenders at all you would have putted Shock higher

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And then lastro iris vs finn violet

icy valve
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Because everybody knew how cracked Proper was

hot onyx
hot onyx
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Well they proved you wrong for sure😂😂

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i thought most of the AT players would not hold up against real competition and i was wrong

hot onyx
icy valve
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And if you followed rumors then you knew at in the past beated half of na teams in scrims😂😂

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AT was just an exception

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Spitfire is ass

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violet lastro where violet is a better fs and has played ms before

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I don’t understand like. Did you not follow contenders at all😂😂

hot onyx
static pond
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Hate there trolling lol

icy valve
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Like proper, Finn were one of the greatest contenders players coming into the league

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Bro lived under a rock😂😂

hot onyx
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i literally followed contenders yes

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Then how did you rate Shock this low😂😂😂

hot onyx
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I had Shock and Outlaws joined together

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"this low" bro they are top 5 with Viol2t lucio

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I am a Reign fan and I am shocked you thought of them to be so low

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they have coluge solo tank

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And violet ms

hot onyx
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i can tell you're a reign fan

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"😂" -🤓

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I know. But I had Shock 3th before season started

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3th

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Yeah

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I was very hyped about proper

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i saw Proper and Pelican as equals

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they were both on O2 Blast

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they were both destined to win ROTY

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icy valve
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True

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fucking london

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Just like this season the obvious roty is gonna be Heesang

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PRE CHENGDU IMPLOSION BTW

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I think I was really based other than titans

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like i thought people were disrespecting Pelican far too much after he came into the season as a top 3 fdps and carried Reign to grand finals

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?

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i got it correct

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at the middle

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icy valve
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Damn you had Reign that high?

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i never said bad

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they had Kai and Hawk

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i just knew that people placing them in the top 5 suffered from brain rot

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I had them little bit higher then middle of the pact but not top 3 na

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Prob top 2

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You have hawk a great ot Kai Nero who looked good on shock

hot onyx
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And ojee UV who were AT players

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Nero was being overrated to the moon

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Levi

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hot onyx
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Coaching can impact teams

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probably top 3 if they get a main tank

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Damn

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and a real coach

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Who is your top 3?

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Please don’t tell me Boston is in it

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right now

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probably Shock Outlaws Fuel

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FUEL?

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naw Boston is not even in my top 5

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Fuel?

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3 title winners and Bliss

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Fuel has rush

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i trust Rush

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Not that they are bad but better then Reign?

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fuel #4

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i'll be honest

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reign 3rd

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midseason madness

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shock

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i trust Rush with midders more than i will ever trust Gator with title winners

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Might be my bias but Reign surely is top 3

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That roster is to good to not be top 3

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And I trust Hawk picking up the mt role more then I trust Hanbin doing it

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Reign szn

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And mcd bruv

hot onyx
icy valve
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No way that’s a top 3

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Summer Showdown and playoffs

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Lmao

hot onyx
icy valve
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without Unter and Pelican the team has collapsed

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And no it was not only Unter

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wait why'd I say reign 3rd

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reign 2nd

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hot onyx
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look what Unter did for Glads

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houston sucks

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They placed third twice

hot onyx
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speaking of which

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true, Glads were top 2 according to titles

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fixa just got announced to fusion

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fuel shock glads Seoul (shanghai Houston or reign)

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or infernal

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In the other two stages we were 3th

hot onyx
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I call that a decent year

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so true!

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Especially considering we just lost Pelican, Ir1s, Unter,….

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But with the players and pieces Reign lost we had a good year

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hot onyx
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I take the first one

icy valve
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We were never gonna win the league this season

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Other then that it’s mostly Ir1s a bit better

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imo UV beats Iris on nothing

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Kiriko

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Iris ana is criminally underrated

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Uv playing Ana got us top 3 in two stages😂😂

hot onyx
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uv ana sucks he uses right click for sleep

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Ir1s bap is better then UV for sure but Ana I have to give it to UV

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And mouse button for scope in

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Doesn’t mean he didn’t have insane impact

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Lmao

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he doesn’t deserve rights

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UV best hero imo was Ana

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With those binds

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lsd your binds are wild as well

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Bro I gotta be honest if you are playing on a QWERTY keyboard I would play zqsd on QWERTY

hot onyx
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F for scope in

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what is wrong with you

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On Ana his impact was great

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We legit got top 3 with him on ana. Look it up bruv

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one trick imo

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No he isn’t. He does really suck ass on brig

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Wtf was That

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pls Crusty

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do it

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i need to watch Kilo missing a few shoots on a live tournie

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copium

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4 players being released and resigned to the team in the span of 3 years

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soon to be 5

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possibly

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but if Infernal were throwing the season then FiXa wouldn't have been released in the first place

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plus Roston said in an interview that he had hopes to train FiXa as a developmental piece of the core team

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development failed

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FiXa booted

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onto a new main support that is not bottom 5

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Profit hadi striker zest mn3

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@hot onyx

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Happy

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MN3 ZEST were not released

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i am referring to players that were released during the off season and resigned before the season began

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Hadi Vestola Bianca and now Profit

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plus "Fusion" are now representing the capital of korea

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they will surely want to put together a team worthy of a city that populates 9 million people

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Against reign and shock

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Most Dallas fans are as well

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I am the exception

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for dallas fans

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shock 1st
atl 2nd
h🤮uston 3rd
dallas 4th

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You’re biased as well

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Sadly

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But much less

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Than some

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because if the rumoured signings of Heesu and Junbin are true this roster has 0 holes

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sort of like last years Boston but 1st instead of 20th

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Before you knew the rumors

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coin toss

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Ah yes what a coin toss

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you could make arguments for both of them and they are both valid

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what a coin toss

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current roty vs future roty

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Huh

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Pelican vs Proper

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Proper is current Roty

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How can pelican be future Roty

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i meant in 2022

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when i ranked them preseason

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ok I meant this year

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i never unironically said Outlaws > Shock

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just that the gap was not as large as you make it out to be

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U said outlaws

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Was favorites

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When I asked

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yes because i'm not going to dickride the shock in front of the shock fan

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Therefore

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You are biased

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i am

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Against shock

hot onyx
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i am

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Yes

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and even with that bias

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So don’t even try

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i can acknowledge

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To argue against my point

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that shock are #1

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Lmao

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what point?

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that shock are #1 this season??

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a point that i agree with???

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hot onyx
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i thought i was the autistic one mf can't even read

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It’s not an embed fail

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It’s a message link

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Click on it

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i am biased against Reign and Shock

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worst fanbases in the league

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Yes I know that

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Vindaims gonna drop outta ur top 5

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Now that he’s on shock

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???

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are you stupid

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my bias does not go toward my rankings of individual players

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It does

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Proper is literally the best dps

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FiNN is a top 3 fs

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MAX is going to be a top 5 off tank worst case scenario

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Heesang is a top 5 fdps

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Belosrea

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Moment

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fuck Belosrea

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He’s decent

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korean Ameng piece of shit

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Unlike what u rate him as

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good on ball and low B high C on every other hero

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watch Fusion vs Spitfire playoffs

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and tell me his winston is top 10

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literal liability

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also what does Belosrea have to do with my negative bias towards Reign and Shock?

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schizo

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Belosrea the goat

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my bias towards Belosrea is because he is dogshit

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if he was good off ball i would not be biased against him

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he is only rated because his competition was Marve1 Rio GA9A and Fate's washed up corpse

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if you replaced MN3 or ZEST with Ezhan or Becky the Fusion don't make playins

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replace both of them and they go winless

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man getting mad against sado and fury

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Vigi shu fielder

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Imo

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FiNN didn't get benched for UV though so he gets the edge

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He got role star

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Izawashedi

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Profit got role star over Pelican and ZEST

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Hadi got role star over Someone Hawk and Void

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role star is not a real award

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if it was then Fate would've got it over Space

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in 2021

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Sans

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Just admit that ur biased

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did everybody just wake up and decide to become dyslexic?

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i am very biased

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but i do not allow my bias to overtake my opinions on a players skill

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hot onyx
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every analyst that has watched a match of owl think mn3 zest is good

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most Fusion fans are under the influence that FiXa is not bad

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because he plays for their team

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he played for my team and my bias towards my team did not affect my opinion of his gameplay

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Ur the odd one out

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i love gaslighting personally

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Jackerco would agree with me if he was still in the server

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many good analysts also agree that FiXa is a terrible main support

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who

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NA

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Wait

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I meant

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For season six

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Or season five

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Ok I had them fourth

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Had shock glads Dallas higher

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In NA

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And six overall

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the tank situation still worries me

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i love how punks dad replied to this

icy valve
next mesa
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i dont

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he is white

tiny pollen
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they should sign guxue instead

pallid willow
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anyone know when we are getting the Soujourn OWL skin from the GF?

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Anyone want to join a group

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start fissure bench fate sell mano

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easily

tiny pollen
#

^

cunning patrol
#

Yeah leakmafia need to make harder ones

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Like the one they posted w fits carpe bird like the answer isn’t painfully obvious lmfao

tiny pollen
#

sell bird start carpe bench fits

cunning patrol
#

Wow you are a special human for sure carrot

#

Love your unique insight on situations

tiny pollen
#

peak carpe?

cunning patrol
#

Yes

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No peak carpe is the best

tiny pollen
#

yea

cunning patrol
#

Peak bird > peak fits

tiny pollen
#

bird super overated

cunning patrol
#

I profoundly disagree

limpid grail
#

fate is underrated just because he can't ball

#

and even then he can still ball

sudden oxide
#

where do i ask for a new game mode to be added to overwatch?

cloud latch
cloud latch
#

especially at his peak

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he prob was a top 3 blal player

#

ball

cunning patrol
limpid grail
#

i may be thinking of someone else then

#

fate is really good!

cloud latch
north relic
#

Sell bird start fits bench carpe

next mesa
#

start fits bench bird sell carpe

north relic
#

bird would make me a lot more money

#

and peak fits is good enough

hot onyx
#

start carpe bench birdring sell fits

main wasp
#

im top 1 all countries all platforms

#

Believe it

tidal marsh
#

Yo the European Invitational looks hype

plush grail
#

yass slay

vagrant cargo
#

Like it's crazy

#

How is a person this dented

vagrant cargo
limpid grail
#

this is why I said right after that I wasn't thinking of the right person

north relic
#

prime xzi prime Kai prime happy

plush grail
vagrant cargo
#

Real

plush grail
#

the glizzy gobbler

cloud latch
north relic
#

Start xzi bench happy sell Kai

wary cave
#

when is the next season

cloud latch
#

march april somewhere in those months

wary cave
#

ty

north relic
#

April 23rd, 2024

cloud latch
#

prime leave prime shy prime kevster

loud elbow
#

start kevster bench leave sell shy

vagrant jacinth
cloud latch
limpid grail
#

tay zonday finally on a winning team

vagrant jacinth
vagrant jacinth
tiny pollen
#

Start x-ray sell faith bench space

plush grail
#

was it on paris

stoic totem
#

.

plush grail
#

because if thats the case he's hella mid

north relic
#

Never heard of that team

loud elbow
plush grail
#

hit puberty

cloud latch
# north relic paris?

I feel like if it were to be a team it would be one of the worst teams to exist for many years

twin bloom
north relic
twin bloom
twin bloom
willow drum
#

Sans dickrides Korea

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Like his life depends on it

#

And hates Belosrea more than OWL fans hate the reign

cloud latch
#

he hates fixa more than everything

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sucks for him since fixa is getting resigned

worn falcon
cloud latch
#

will the league finally die or will they actually do something

uncut drum
#

very good

hot onyx
#

especially on tank when there are less of them in the league

hot onyx
cedar oasis
#

Cope

hot onyx
hot onyx
#

as well as the moment the Fusion rebrand

#

there is no OWL without Philadelphia Fusion

cedar oasis
#

As well as the moment the dragons died

hot onyx
#

Dragons still have Moon

#

so anything is possible for them

cedar oasis
#

Washed

#

Coach

hot onyx
#

they can go full contenders with that guy and make top 3 apac

cloud latch
#

I can see moon signing like a vet

cedar oasis
#

How u gonna have the best hs fdps and support line and not even come top 3

cloud latch
#

and a bunch of rookies

cedar oasis
#

In one season

hot onyx
#

just bid on Hidden Spectra Toyou Sanguinar Babel

cloud latch
#

or young players

hot onyx
#

and mould them

#

bingo

cedar oasis
#

Sans

#

What happened to cleystn

#

You sucked that guy off every day

#

Claiming he was top 3 dps

hot onyx
#

off tank

cedar oasis
#

Every day

hot onyx
#

top 5

cedar oasis
#

No he's dps

cloud latch
hot onyx
#

?

cedar oasis
#

Oh

cloud latch
cedar oasis
#

He changed from dps to tank

#

Weirdo

#

Copying danteh

hot onyx
#

surely he hasn't been playing tank since 2020

lost thicket
#

Tank - Dps for a tourney - Tank again

cloud latch
hot onyx
lost thicket
hot onyx
#

Run It Back and the KR CN crossover thingie

#

Pacific Showdown

tepid ibex
earnest orchid
#

i won 6 CTF games and the nametag challenge is gone but it still says i own no nametags, anyone know why?

deft wolf
#

idk

trim shadow
#

Oh we have sold our souls UZ98_codm_kekwhat

full lichen
deft wolf
#

nahhh

#

start leave bench shy sell kevster

full lichen
#

You must've smoked a LOT of weed

next mesa
#

fuck white people

limpid grail
#

?

icy valve
#

Huh?

deft wolf
#

its an opinion lmao

static pond
cloud latch
#

haksal

static pond
#

Whoru

earnest leaf
#

Haksal the blade goat

limpid grail
#

haksal imo

vagrant cargo
#

It's shadowburn

north relic
#

OR

#

(ME)

#

or this guy

willow drum
next mesa
#

haksal if no ryujegoat

plush grail
cloud latch
#

haksal sparkle and whoru won things

#

curious

plush grail
#

what the fuck did whoru win

cloud latch
#

apex no

#

?

next mesa
#

grand finals winner (very big contributor)

plush grail
#

bench boy award

next mesa
#

sparkle clutched vs shock as well

#

eqo had the best clutch ever yes

#

however

plush grail
#

whoru is fucking whack and his haircut is shit

next mesa
#

he immediately trolled his next blade

next mesa
#

smh

#

whoru gets bitches

#

i can tell

plush grail
#

sparkle started a teamfight with everyone alive and resources

#

eqo ran it back in a 1v3 or smthn

#

softboys are fucking garbage

#

go gym pussy

next mesa
#

the only bussy gym bros get are from men

#

cope

plush grail
#

do u go to the gym

next mesa
#

yes

deft wolf
plush grail
#

levy if i ever see u in the gym

#

and u need a spotter

#

im dropping the full weigjht on your neck

north relic
#

summer showdown

#

2022

next mesa
#

i would never let a beta like you spot me

#

unfortunately

plush grail
#

im strong

cloud latch
plush grail
#

We need a filter for this chat

#

U need to send a vid of u benching 75 for access here

cloud latch
plush grail
#

Which Levi are u again

north relic
#

i can bench 75 easy (grams)

plush grail
#

The Canadian one or the one who talks slow

cloud latch
plush grail
#

Who

deft wolf
#

Nyxl bout to be the most shit team in Na

next mesa
willow drum
#

actually

#

too low

#

imho

static pond
#

Idk if anyone would find this interesting

#

But posting it anyways

next mesa
#

finally

#

fuck overwatch league

earnest leaf
#

Wasn't this just to get some money since it's costed them a lot to participate in owl

next mesa
#

i hope they dissolve the entire league

turbid cargo
next mesa
#

it will be better for them in the long term

#

easily

#

the league is killing the esports team

#

scene

earnest leaf
#

if owl dies OW esports dies

next mesa
#

owl does not do good esport

#

it should die

#

a phoenix is reborn from the ashes of t he fallen, flameknight

#

remember that.

#

別說我太蠢太笨太傻~

earnest leaf
#

the china shit also makes it even worse to try and re-build the esports

#

the best chance was to do it alongside the ow2 release and re-do it all but it's a bit late for that

next mesa
#

never too late to rebuild some dogshit

trail perch
#

Holy shit just end owl

#

and do what cs does

#

literally steal the same format

#

have a sanctioned map pool

#

and 2 majors a year

#

and leave everything else up to TOs

loud elbow
#

and then all the sponsors left

next mesa
#

the league was already shit

loud elbow
#

and a lot of them are still questioning their relationships

next mesa
#

it was an expedited process

loud elbow
#

OWL had a more 'active' scene than LoL Esports does during regular season, or atleast a lot more people talking highly about it

next mesa
#

no it doesn't

#

it's not even close actually

trail perch
#

holy cope

next mesa
#

OWL had like 35k average viewers regular season games lolol

loud elbow
trail perch
#

Bro LCS still gets 2x viewership

#

and big games get over 5x

#

I watch league as well

#

NA league isnt in the gutter cash or viewerwise

#

Just skill wise lmao

loud elbow
#

tbh I quit watching league esports when the whole drama came up with NA's schedule

#

and pretty much everyone universally agreeing NA Teams are always at a disadvantage because of their scheduling system

trail perch
#

you mean like 2 months ago drama

loud elbow
#

it's still going on no?

trail perch
#

bro the season hasnt even started yet...

#

you cant quit watching something that hasnt started

earnest leaf
#

The biggest killer of the league is split regions

#

force everyone back to NA to play

#

Makes Lan events more easily done, tourneys can be all done on lan with both regions

trim shadow
trim shadow
#

There were already problems with Path to pro contenders viewership and obviously covid didnt help

#

But after restrictions were lifted

earnest leaf
#

tbf owl viewership went way higher as soon as the game was fully released

#

and they could easily rotate drop stuff to keep the viewership up

trim shadow
#

Owl was the only leauge to still lock its players in doors
So when u think about it
With viewership going down
Effectively a pro leauge playing on a beta for a season
And other shennagins going with the devs

#

The ship was well under water

earnest leaf
#

It's not dead until the league entirely is dissolved and cancelled

#

people have been saying the league is dying since s3

trim shadow
#

The only fucking point of owl was city to city gameplay interracting with fans and generating money hopefully through ticket sales

#

Tbh this is probably the first time ill say the leauge is on its deathbed

#

And after all the random firings and valiant situation

#

Suprised owl isnt under federal investigation

worn falcon
limpid grail
#

I ironically think last year was its best because the format was solid

#

although I am biased because I actually got to watch live

worn falcon
#

wew

#

wew x 2

static pond
worn falcon
#

yes

trim shadow
uncut drum
loud elbow
uncut drum
#

Cod League and owl

plush grail
uncut drum
#

Yeah

#

I think they will show support

#

Cause why are they sponsoring London if they don't care

plush grail
#

im pretty sure london doesnt have microsoft as a sponsor

#

cloud9 has microsoft

uncut drum
#

Yeah

#

But as they are a sub branch

#

They will have it to

uncut drum
#

No clue

#

I thought people here might know

#

Unter Jake replied

plush grail
#

does this guy really think he can make owl??

#

tons of people retired

#

but do od/community tournament players think they're good enough now lol

twin bloom
#

He hasnt played pro in ages he only plays some random tournaments

#

He is def good enough for top NA T2

#

Lol

#

@plush grail

plush grail
#

is na that bad rn

twin bloom
#

I mean yeah but redemption isnt that bad

#

Good players think he is decent

plush grail
#

wait nvm i forgot

#

ur the na dickrider

#

ofc ur gonna claim he diffs muze

twin bloom
#

I am just giving you an objective take

#

Its sad truly

plush grail
#

do you legit think a community tourney player like that would be top tier in na

#

are you actually that delusional

twin bloom
#

Its not that hard and yeah easily

#

And other pros agree idk why ur flaming me lol

plush grail
#

if pros agreed that he's good he would not be on a od team

twin bloom
plush grail
#

so he has only ever played od, which he hasnt even played in for a year and u still think he would top na contenders

twin bloom
plush grail
#

means nothing lmao

twin bloom
#

OK but that still puts him above most tanks in NAC IMHO

plush grail
twin bloom
#

Lmfao

#

Isnt he the best OT in EUC LoL

vagrant cargo
tawdry glen
#

Owl teams suing blizzard?

icy valve
#

It took them long enough

tulip grove
#

Hi

#

Zarya = 💩

balmy wolf
#

Ima make a ticket to try and unban myself from competitive season 2 what should I say

shut bobcat
#

Danteh

tidal marsh
#

Whattt

balmy wolf
#

yo join my custom - madx#11932

tidal marsh
#

it's kind of insane how danteh has transitioned from being a DPS player to signing on a new team as a Tank

viral mason
vagrant jacinth
#

Dantehszn

errant night
#

Woahahh

uncut drum
#

HE IS BACKKKKKKKK

#

DOOMTEH

#

i like this

#

this i just main tank

#

so we might get a off tank

tidal marsh
cedar oasis
#

HUGH JACKMAN CLEARS

tidal marsh
#

Which team is gonna sign ZEDD

vagrant cargo
#

It has been leaked for a while now

twin bloom
#

I saw a player named sniper absolutely destroy Dantay in a sigma mirror on circuit royale

#

Its joever

vagrant cargo
#

who is sniper

twin bloom
#

It was depressing to witness

hot onyx
static pond
cloud latch
hot onyx
#

Clestyn Toyou Bernar Mag Kellan are all on the free market and Glads want a dps player

cedar oasis
#

You know what's crazy

#

Infernal are getting none of these players

twin bloom
#

Tank is also fat dps in ow 2 so

hot onyx
#

-person that has never seen a Clestyn game

twin bloom
#

Doom zarya jq already can be played by dps and the new dva is just fat tracer

#

He will just struggle on every other champ

tidal marsh
#

I mean they've picked danteh as a MT

cloud latch
tidal marsh
#

So it's always possible that they pick up an OT

hot onyx
#

i'm afraid my Clestyn simpage outweighs everybody elses

hot onyx
twin bloom
#

Danteh as a MT is dumb makes way more sense as an OT

#

Imo

#

Danteh is no joat on the rein i assume

hot onyx
#

Happy Shu for Danteh Lastro might be one of the worst unofficial trades in league history

cloud latch
#

^

#

HOLLLYYY SOMEBODY GETS IT

hot onyx
#

Happy and Shu have two more titles imo

cloud latch
#

hapy only has one title no?

hot onyx
#

he does

#

2020 summer showdown and my official "best replacement for a washed up shitter" award

#

2 titles

twin bloom
#

Shu won two titles stop

#

IMo

#

Also give glads one more week

#

They are big 2

#

In playoffs

cloud latch
tiny pollen
#

Glads looking real mid this season

#

Ngl

#

Only good players are kev and fa

cloud latch
#

prob smartest to not pour every penny into this league

tiny pollen
#

Shock winning league this year

cloud latch
#

if shock don't make finals that's prob one of the biggest failures of owl

#

history

tiny pollen
#

Agreed

cloud latch
#

they have proper heesang

#

possibly heesu

#

max

#

vindaim

#

finn

#

literally near perfect roster

#

plus shock usually does well in wacky metas

tiny pollen
#

They should get ans again

cloud latch
#

why

tiny pollen
#

Fill role of heesu beter

#

Widow otp

cloud latch
#

no?

#

heesu is way more flexible

#

they don't need a widow otp

tiny pollen
#

They do

cloud latch
#

proper is already a great widow ?

#

no?

#

plus heesu has sombra

#

REAL

earnest leaf
#

ans won more titles than proper in s5 tsk tsk