esports-discussion

[cedar oasis]

And mn3 when he isnt as inconsistent as profit

[north relic]

Reign szn

[hot onyx]

no thanks i have your mother and my girlfriend for that

[willow drum]

Ok

[hot onyx]

MN3 is more consistent than Profit with tanks and supports that are three times as bad

[north relic]

Belosrea

Is better

[hot onyx]

Belosrea is equal on ball and worse on every other hero ten fold

[cedar oasis]

Ok infernal supporter

[hot onyx]

Smurf is a top 2 winton, top 5 rein and most likely a good orisa

[hot onyx]

don't call me that

i am an MN3 and ZEST supporter

just like last year

nothing has changed

[cedar oasis]

Ok mr belosrea supporter

[hot onyx]

fuck you

[cedar oasis]

Head of the fixa fan club

[hot onyx]

that's Levi

[cedar oasis]

Owner of an aimgod body pillow

[hot onyx]

Snillo*

[cedar oasis]

Sans we all know you enjoy pain

Why else would you be a infernal fan

[worn falcon]

Ok Mr Carpe supporter

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/bostonuprising/status/1613648758432047123?s=46&t=8qXmNFY5NBFCjGQpWBulrQ

Boston Uprising (@BostonUprising)

We are excited to announce @jellyhaeni as our new Player Manager!

Welcome Haeni to the Uprising family!

#BostonUp | #BostonUprising

Likes

113

Twitter · Jan 12, 2023, 9:26 PM

[tiny pollen]

nepotism sweep (not a bad thing here)

[gusty pebble]

hello, did anyone get credits from callingallheroes at 18th december?

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/flmayhem/status/1613657072742137856?s=46&t=8qXmNFY5NBFCjGQpWBulrQ

Florida Mayhem (@FLMayhem)

One of the scariest hitscan players you could queue against.

Please welcome @JWantedL as our newest content creator!

Likes

391

Twitter · Jan 12, 2023, 10:00 PM

[full lichen]

Nice

W puckup

[hot onyx]

content creator

[full lichen]

Ik

I like his content

[static pond]

Random question do y’all want me to post signings of content creators or just owl players?

[limpid grail]

both are fine imo
given how bare the rosters are rn

[next mesa]

she is pretty pretty

[tepid wren]

Seoul is a great team and I dislike the rest

[plush grail]

fr has the hardest job ever

player manager on a team with striker and decay

[hot onyx]

which Seoul?

[split flume]

the good one

[frosty patrol]

no way fusion also stole the font on “seoul” in addition to stealing the titans logo

[hot onyx]

the one with two players or the one with 0 players?

[hot onyx]

the "O" is taller for Infernal so it's a different font

[frosty patrol]

they stretched it vertically a bit

like changing their friends homework

so the teacher doesn’t know he copied

[hot onyx]

i like the vertical "o" better

it synchronises with the other letters more naturally

[tepid wren]

Dynasty is better

[hot onyx]

that's true they have so many good players

such as assistant coach MMA

potentially even the return of head coach Tobi if they're feeling bold

[tepid wren]

They so underrated

Trueee

[hot onyx]

who needs players with such a good coaching staff

[balmy wolf]

LOL

ily sans

[hot onyx]

<3

[tepid wren]

Personally Seoul is best team

And bets logo

[balmy wolf]

whos ur fav player on the team?

[tepid wren]

Idk man they all cool

[hot onyx]

oh no they don't know

[balmy wolf]

name one

[tepid wren]

Forgor some of the names im very stupid

[balmy wolf]

what names

[tepid wren]

IDK

Thats why I forgot

[balmy wolf]

they have no players silly

[tepid wren]

Wh

[vagrant jacinth]

Gotta be specific when talking about Seoul these days

[tepid wren]

Oh

I dont keep track with a lot

[balmy wolf]

its fine

[chilly storm]

Anyone know if dallas has any more plans for roster signings?

[north relic]

IDK isn’t on dynasty

[sullen berry]

@hot onyx i brought my Fusion Jersey to the airport

Lord knows if someone actually recognises it

[worn falcon]

@sullen berry Kenobi TC 278?

[sullen berry]

Eh

[sullen berry]

Guys where can I find the post I sans

I want to replicate it

[tawny hatch]

Can we post photos here?

[sullen berry]

No but I have regular that grants me perms

Let's just say it was a mistake

to grant me this much power

[vagrant jacinth]

sooooooon

Always liked him, still look at what he's up to every now and then

[sullen berry]

@hot onyx my dad decided he will take the photo so long as I didn't manspread in public

[hot onyx]

time is a flat circle

very swag

[pale field]

Swag

[split flume]

Gigachad

[plush grail]

2 bitchless individuals

[cedar oasis]

? Sans has you

[plush grail]

sans has nobody

[cedar oasis]

He has a nan

[plush grail]

and

[cedar oasis]

Northerners are inbred

Like dutch people

[hot onyx]

"All narcissists tell on themselves. Projection is the process through which they reveal who they are and what they're doing."

[plush grail]

not reading that

[pale field]

Ian hate group unite

[hot onyx]

"They tend to deny flaws in themselves and put the blame on others for their personal shortcomings, misfortunes, and mistakes."

[pale field]

Real

[plush grail]

who

[worn falcon]

I mean if was you in the Tactical crouch podcast lol

[hot onyx]

https://twitter.com/Outlaws/status/1613959168896925704?s=20&t=PtM1mI08YlkAbOx3mI-T0w

huge

[icy valve]

True

Outlaws an interesting team to watch this season

[icy valve]

I am from Belgium so I basically am Dutch😂😂

Another thing you can hate about me haha

[trim shadow]

Bischu still around?

[sullen berry]

Oh I thought you were talking about DROIDS

[vagrant jacinth]

Chad behaviour

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/flmayhem/status/1614019457822740495?s=46&t=cd9O-wFOcm0OrBohTGGaAw

Florida Mayhem (@FLMayhem)

From the nastiest Widow clips to some of the funniest memes on Twitter....

Please welcome @DpsDeku as our newest content creator!

Twitter · Jan 13, 2023, 10:00 PM

[uncut drum]

wow

mayhem want all the ccs

[cedar oasis]

who the fuck is deku

[sullen berry]

The widowmaker who plays the game Overwatch 2

https://fxtwitter.com/DpsDeku/status/1602443877574647808

[pastel pine]

Hey everyone, Im very very new here but Im very interested in pushing towards esports, I know this is sorta random but does anyone know a place to start?

Im a Tank Main in diamond at the moment

I stream and have a fulltime job, I could easily be masters with the proper dedication

I just have no idea where to start

[north relic]

I remember her when I was facing sleepy

We lost

[full lichen]

YES, WE HAVE THE HOTTEST TEAM IN OWL

[sullen berry]

I've not competed outside of open division, so if you're having a hard time using the #lf-team-na or have no luck with our recruitment channels, there's a dedicated Calling All Heroes (CAH) discord server so you can get into esports from that angle, they're tournaments exclusively for women and marginalised genders

[pastel pine]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

[north relic]

We have a team with this

I’m not saying anything but if shy told me to sit down and bark I might do it

[sullen berry]

https://callingallheroes.gg/en-us/

[sullen berry]

Any simps?- Guxue

[pastel pine]

You are the best person on planet Earth

[full lichen]

You only have two players, Mayhem are nothing but sexy

[sullen berry]

[willow drum]

youre so down bad

please shut up

[worn falcon]

coluge tierlist

too many B tanks

[north relic]

you would do the same

[willow drum]

no i wouldnt

why would i bark

for a male

[north relic]

You lick abs

[willow drum]

when

[north relic]

Everyday

[willow drum]

lol the only people

[vagrant cargo]

U should apply to NYXL

[willow drum]

ive dated

have been girls

so idk

where these ab licker

accusations come from

[north relic]

true

they could use a player

Or six

[pastel pine]

Or six lmao 😂😂 what kind of team y’all trynna put me on! 😂

[hazy marsh]

NYXL was trying to go for a Calling All Heroes type roster so only made up of women and marginalized genders

[pastel pine]

Ah… I need male dps Im not sexist or nothin but

💪🏻💪🏻

LMAO KIDDING

but am i?

[sullen berry]

Just noticed this as my internet came back online, this is the best $8 spent for mobile data overseas

[pastel pine]

Ill check out NYXL though on a serious note :)) Maybe they just need a daddy rein to help them out

[sullen berry]

You can because you may have a genuine shot if you know how to market yourself and have the stats to back it up

You would think it goes for other OWL teams but NYXL is a special breed of innovation and unique this offseason

Valiant meanwhile are at the mercy of their operations company who are in China, not in Los Angeles

[pastel pine]

Insightful. I humbly recognize my potential. Ive been playing the game since its release. I know I’ll need some coaching and fine tuning + hours but Im a very dedicated player!

Used to be a Masters Rein at some point. My peak was like 3800 something . So I feel like if I had the right team it would be really fun!

Sadly , I am forced to be Momma Hog bc meta 🥲🥲

But thats okay, Im my chats Favorite Hooker 🪝

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-overwatch-league-gladiators-la-gladiators-shields-up-gif-13574667

[tawny hatch]

I’m genuinely curious if 34 Elims, 7 Assist, and 7 Deaths is a good start before trying competitive?

As Tank Role sorry

[full lichen]

How Many minutes was the game?

[tawny hatch]

9mins 33 seconds

Idk if that’s across all three matches or not

[willow drum]

stats doesnt matter

especially not elims

but deaths is weird

7 in 9 isnt good

[limpid grail]

eh it's control
I'd say that's fair

if you go to three rounds you're gonna die at least twice

[willow drum]

ueah

ig

[limpid grail]

hmmmm

I'm high on hawk dva

not sure if it would be the same tier as smurf monkey

but

it's definitely better than false's

[sullen berry]

hey could someone ping me in this chat

want to check if ian is actively tracking my IP

[split flume]

huh

[plush grail]

@sullen berry

[sullen berry]

Thanks

[cedar oasis]

We all know you lick abs

[cobalt hornet]

Yall need to have sex with men

[cedar oasis]

No thanks

I only like women with fat asses like Ian's mother

[tidal marsh]

https://twitter.com/Spitfire/status/1614165679250493446?t=OCc9up9-G7hlGWjLYA9hfQ&s=19

London Spitfire (@Spitfire)

Been playing some Portal to pass the time in the off-season - such a great game, with so many fun characters!

Which one's your favorite? Here's ours 😁

Likes

131

Twitter · Jan 14, 2023, 7:41 AM

This gave me a chuckle

[uncut drum]

london just dont want to release there roster

their

[loud elbow]

it's to strong for us to comprehend

[hot onyx]

SparkR Lethal dps line about to be top tier

[icy valve]

I didn’t watch eu contenders that much but is lethal that good?

Tbh just want to ask if we know why Shockwave haven’t been signed yet. Same as Kraandop

[full lichen]

It's gonna be necros Sparker Backbone

[true valley]

Hoping for Dynasty announcements soon man 🤞

[hot onyx]

out of all the western dps talent in contenders Lethal is one of the few that is owl level

[hot onyx]

Backbone genji clears Necros

[full lichen]

Imagine

[stone dune]

SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!!!!!!

[balmy wolf]

why is there no red regular role

[static pond]

I think Justice were supposed to do announcements this week I think that what they said last week

[dense stratus]

@haughty lichen

[willow drum]

thats my 2nd favorite hella washed up player

[icy valve]

Yeah even tho T1 won Carpe did not look good hahah

Sayaplayer looks very good on T1 tho

Then again sayaplayer was also a good player on The Guard

[cedar oasis]

Ew

Val

Gross

I only like good games

Like btd5

[willow drum]

and thats why

ur my favorite washed up player

and not carpe

[full lichen]

Yay, sayaplayer

[cedar oasis]

Thanks buddy that means alot coming from you

You are the young player full of potential

[willow drum]

agreed....

it is like

endrick vs ronaldo

the future goat of his generation vs the number 2 of the previous 1

[trim shadow]

Its already started?

Vct?

[willow drum]

no

[haughty lichen]

What

[fading dagger]

any idea what the next all star skin is gonna be ?

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gif-4544112

[full lichen]

Hopefully another round of supports

Kiriko and Ana maybe

[fading dagger]

thanks man, any clue on date or ? i dont really watxh the e sports so i have no idea lmao

[full lichen]

I have no clue on any of that, I'm just saying support because it started with supports

And I guessed on the heroes too

I'm just using my common sense

[small crater]

W

[uncut drum]

https://twitter.com/Outlaws/status/1614315584052760577

Houston Outlaws (@Outlaws)

Time for some flame on the timeline: Tag the friend that is ALWAYS throwing your games

We'll start: @TorontoDefiant

Likes

240

Twitter · Jan 14, 2023, 5:36 PM

[limpid grail]

most sane outlaws tweet

[loud elbow]

gladiators pinging themselves lmao

[sullen berry]

It's internal strife out there when Glads have aspen and (probably) diamond peak smm

How do most of you spell ______:
a) choisewan
b) shoisewahn
c) choisehwan
d) obiwan

And which letters are you capitalising

[next mesa]

csh

[dusty magnet]

Yo boys what’s the best most stacked overwatch league team of all time? Basically GOAT Overwatch League team?

[split flume]

shock season 2 and 3

[cedar oasis]

No

Shock this season

Poopa heesang

[icy valve]

Pains me to say it but Shock this season

[hot onyx]

2019 Guangzhou Charge

[lost thicket]

carpe on fade very cringe

[lost thicket]

shock 2023, shock 2019-2020 shanghai dragons 2020-2021 dallas fuel 2021-2022

[dusty magnet]

So there’s a lot of really good teams? Which one was the most dominant?

[twin bloom]

Shd 2021 SADLY

Shock 2019 close 2nd

[half lance]

Does anybody know anything about the world cup?

[umbral hawk]

is it SUPPORT or HEALER lets settel this

[half lance]

Deffo support

[umbral hawk]

ur weird asf

[half lance]

It literally says support ingame

[umbral hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-mercy-mercy-overwatch-gif-24604821

[half lance]

Damn.

[fringe trout]

When is league or anything coming back I need them reinhardt skins

[hot onyx]

main support flex support moment

[willow drum]

Lol only metal rank mercy one tricks

Think it’s healer

[cloud latch]

no way this person thinks it's healer

[fringe trout]

Its support since healing falls under supporting but supporting does not fall under healing

Prime example ana sleep dart

It doesnt heal anyone

But anyways when is league coming back I need free skins

[half lance]

Fr and he calls me weird lol

[willow drum]

April

[fringe trout]

Sad

Gonna have to wait then ig

[half lance]

Does anyone know anything about the world cup?

[fringe trout]

Does anyone know anything about any event which could get me any free skin

Please let me know

[cloud latch]

if you're talking about overwatch's https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23892139/

[half lance]

Thx, but I've seen that, I was just wondering if there where any more precise dates

[vagrant jacinth]

Not as of yet

[pastel blaze]

Let me know as well

[willow drum]

https://twitter.com/jakeow/status/1614662837468631040

Jake (@jakeow)

Progress 😋

Likes

1481

Twitter · Jan 15, 2023, 4:36 PM

😋

[cloud latch]

pov you dont play ow anymore

[sullen berry]

pov you just unlocked winged victory

[loud elbow]

Gladiators 2021, they actually won something!

[cloud latch]

surely

[north relic]

shanghai 2021

[cloud latch]

^

[loud elbow]

Fuel was better during the season, Shanghai were better in the playoffs

[north relic]

during the season?

shanghai literally won 2 tournies

[loud elbow]

That's why I made the distinction

Dragons were better when playoffs came, but Fuel performed slightly better before playoffs

[cloud latch]

in no world

is that tru

e

[hot onyx]

three tournament wins and one finals appearance

[north relic]

except shanghai had a better regular season record

[hot onyx]

vs one tournament win and one finals appearance

^

[sullen berry]

It's time to play "Whose involved with leakmafia and bullying pokemon pat on twitter"
https://twitter.com/leakmafia_OW/status/1614724052593135619?t=HY5Ei1kFicuW2rReLhR_Tw&s=19

leak mafia (@leakmafia_OW)

us after guessing the toronto roster before halo

Likes

183

Twitter · Jan 15, 2023, 8:39 PM

[cloud latch]

not to mention there's no way you consider a team with NO HITSCANS better than a team with a complet eroster

[loud elbow]

records don't really mean anything, Mayhem had a good record in 2020 but they were still terrible

[sullen berry]

Pokemon pat is such a friendly guy

[north relic]

then whats your basis

on fuel being better regular season

[loud elbow]

more competition that they beat compared to shanghai

[cloud latch]

but

apac was better

later the season went on

[hot onyx]

Mayhem didn't even have a top 3 record in their region

[cloud latch]

not to mention all the shitter teams in NA

[north relic]

except shanghai beat the competition that fuel fought whenever shanghai met them

[loud elbow]

ngl the only team I considered shitter tier were the Valiant

[north relic]

london and titans

have 1 win

[loud elbow]

but that's because bts and the coach are terrible

[loud elbow]

Spitfire were reconstructing their roster and Titans just couldn't play in the new meta

[hot onyx]

jungkook really threw the titans season

[north relic]

so they were shitters

because they werent good

[loud elbow]

you can not be good and not be shitters as well.

[north relic]

but they were shitters

they had 1 win

[loud elbow]

Personally I don't like calling any team shitters because every team has their ups and downs, but as a glads fan we have too many fluctuating performances

[north relic]

do you really think

this team wasnt a shitter team

[hot onyx]

i don't consider 1-15 as an equal level of ups and downs

[cloud latch]

but I thought your team was the GOAT?

[loud elbow]

Shu and Skewed carried the team though tbf

we were the GOAT because of those 2

[cloud latch]

skewed did not carry

[hot onyx]

prime Kevster Birdring?

prime Space

[loud elbow]

Kevster was good when he was allowed to play Tracer

[north relic]

aka

the entire

year

[hot onyx]

tracer was meta for 75% of the season

[cloud latch]

trust me

[north relic]

the only time tracer wasnt played

was when she got banned

[hot onyx]

neo goats

[cloud latch]

if kevster had to swap heroes cause the meta depended on it

he would of and still popped off

if you didn't know

he is a hyper flex

[north relic]

no he wouldnt

neo goats

reaper

[loud elbow]

Kev can not play Reaper

[north relic]

was the bird reaper

[cloud latch]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-despair-xqcdespair-voidge-troll-gif-24691555

[north relic]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/233904315247362048/885956633778335774/image0.gif

not a shitter team

[loud elbow]

Bird was the hit-scan player I believe yeah

[vagrant jacinth]

Pain.

[limpid grail]

dot dot dot

BQB Yaki era mayhem were not anywhere near terrible lol

6th in reg season
4th in playoffs pre region merge
2nd in May melee and 3rd-4th in CC

[full lichen]

Agreed, they just had Shitter tanks and average support lines

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/seouldynasty/status/1614819741683810305?s=46&t=q3coq1pE5QhxlGS3bL7FWQ

Seoul Dynasty 🐯 (@SeoulDynasty)

Re-signed, @ProfitOW

#TigerNation #SeoulDynasty

Twitter · Jan 16, 2023, 3:00 AM

[next mesa]

we might've let fits and smurf go but at least we kept the goat

[sullen berry]

@strong temple we back at it again this week

Seoul's star dps did not get picked up by the other Seoul team, to the rejoice of nobody who saw it coming

[strong temple]

pog

[earnest leaf]

seoul saving other teams from picking up midfit 🙏

[tiny pollen]

🙏

[next mesa]

he will prove the haters wrong

[earnest leaf]

Trust guys it's his year this time, he totally is a top 2 dps player and a hyperflex that can carry games like proper and kevster

[next mesa]

yessirr

[willow drum]

Based

[north relic]

Put yaki on a good team

I beg

Yaki to reign is the dream

[hot onyx]

you let go of the goat

[cloud latch]

no your team did

you let go of fixgoat

[next mesa]

yea

[sullen berry]

So wtf do I do now with this

[next mesa]

we just let go of some random tank

[sullen berry]

Also I'm still spending all of today wearing the only OWL jersey I brought with me

[hot onyx]

save it for 2024

[sullen berry]

If I knew the boomers I'm traveling with would fit the other 12 jerseys I had then we would be kinda popping

[earnest leaf]

yaki clears profit any day of the week if his team isn't full of flower sniffers

[hot onyx]

is there a Hangzhou Spark Ado jersey in the collection?

[uncut drum]

https://youtu.be/L6iOPth88qw

[soft marsh]

what does one have to do to begin an overwatch team?

like

obvi not overwatch league but like

does it just have to be a group of people?

[sullen berry]

You can have a listen to my interview with a pro player, it just kind of happens if you make it or not. You should definitely join teams that are not only focused on the same things as you are but you really want to grow and challenge yourself and the players you are with to succeed

[rare sleet]

I’m tryna go pro on gang

[icy valve]

Might not know if this is true but I heard Yaki might be joining glads

[loud elbow]

would certaintly be a welcome one

[icy valve]

Yeah would for sure be a good signing for glads

[loud elbow]

We already won the signs this year

[icy valve]

Who is we?

What team are you fan of

[loud elbow]

Gladiators, always have been lmao

[icy valve]

Ow lmao

[loud elbow]

yeah I'm glad we've been performing way better these last 2-3 years

We aren't terrible but we used to choke some very important matches

Atleast we're consistently top 5 for regular season

[vagrant jacinth]

I wonder how this affects my profits return to London theory

[uncut drum]

i am sad that he is resigned

i rather him go to na

[vagrant cargo]

W

[vagrant jacinth]

Profit slander smh

[frosty latch]

Quick question how do I watch the Overwatch league

[uncut drum]

on the owl yt channel

[frosty latch]

Thank you

[vagrant jacinth]

Profit hasn't done his military service yet has he?

Maybe his last season?

[uncut drum]

i think so

[trim shadow]

Profit going nowhere

Profits is a millionaire now probably

[vagrant jacinth]

Probably

Living true to his name

[hot onyx]

$545,530 approximate winnings according to liquipedia

on top of a 50k minimum salary for 6 years

but it is likely that he gets paid over 100k for each year since he has name value

[frosty patrol]

name value shitter

just like post-2018 ronaldo!

real

[hot onyx]

realer words have never been spoken

Profit is just like Striker Ans and Fury

hasn't been good since 2020 and still receives big cash in the hopes that he returns to form

[frosty patrol]

disagree

profit was A tier in 2022

and was not good in 2020

or 2021

[hot onyx]

sorry i conveniently forgot about summer showdown and countdown cup in 2020

just like a majority of profit simps

[frosty patrol]

and 75% of may melee

[hot onyx]

precisely

[tiny pollen]

Profit was b tier

Zest > profit

[cunning patrol]

Real

[worn falcon]

last point, promidfit being real

[limpid grail]

real

[worn falcon]

just fusion both regions tbh

and mix hours, like encore for Korea and some live for them

or make teams going to Korea for one Tournament

[worn falcon]

although too late, looking at ex philly

[icy valve]

I mean it is obvious that Profit is not the best player in the league anymore. But considering he has been in the league for 6 years he is still one of the better flex dps out there

And imo he should get the respect he deserves

Also want people to realize the level of play has been a lot higher these days. As an Atlanta Reign fan I have to respect him

Problem is that the league isn’t really doing enough to blend the two regions. Maybe more homestands or something?

[icy valve]

Tbf Zest looking like the next big thing. Also want to add some other flex dps on that list like Proper, Kevster, Stalk3r, Pelican, Heesang,…

[tiny pollen]

Profit rank 2 goat

[cloud latch]

rascal #1

[worn falcon]

Carpe the eternal number 2 til he went valorain't

[cunning patrol]

Now he’s last

[icy valve]

Bro how is Profit not the number 1 OWL goat. Been a starter in the league since it was founded. Bro deserves respect

He is not the best flex dps anymore but I just have to respect him

[worn falcon]

The one who deserved respect was Supertf for those cosplays

[north relic]

So has anamo

[static pond]

We probably won’t see apac announce until like February

At least spark plans to announce there roster towards the end of February im guessing other apac teams probably do the same

[worn falcon]

according to some bad translation Spark going budget

[static pond]

Ah I think dragons aret going budget

[static pond]

The org is very big company as far as I know

[worn falcon]

yeah but apac its amess rn

next season all apac going full Beijing Baliant

[icy valve]

honestly also true

[static pond]

True but I think dragons probably do fine netease seems to be making money even after the blizzard deal thing

Plus I wanna see what moon has cooking up with rookies

Surprisingly topdragon and specta aret sign still as far as I know

[worn falcon]

most companies have the monies, just OWL hasnt been profitable and managed in a messy way. The failed Fusion Stadium, the travels around the world. All of it was ambitious and weirdly managed but was mostly PR stuff to keep investors.

[static pond]

Wast the fusion statium failure due to Covid tho?

[worn falcon]

like a mixed bag

but in the end was greedy af and not very thoughtful of them

[static pond]

Ya

Would have been really cool to see it

Plus owl spitting into regions probably impact it

It would be really cool if teams did what Seoul and Washington did last year where they live stream a scrim

[plush grail]

we'll get this probably

but just a little later

once real scrims have started

[icy valve]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1615053465402712064

Arran Spake (@haloofthoughts)

To stop an early rumour dead in its tracks.

Multiple sources have confirmed that the Guangzhou Charge ARE NOT disbanding and they WILL be fielding a team for the 2023 season

Twitter · Jan 16, 2023, 6:28 PM

Prob La valiant disbanding no?

Can we get another eu team or Chicago or Seattle team?

Like we need it lmao

[plush grail]

why the fuck would na need another team

[worn falcon]

No one wants to spend 30 to 60 millions in a zombie franchise for a slot

[icy valve]

aight so EU team

[worn falcon]

if OWL was a tad bit sucefull maybe orgs would be joining

[plush grail]

na mfs be like ''i want my hometown to be represented with their own team!!''

[worn falcon]

but many teams owners have been complaining or regretting getting into.

[plush grail]

u have like 10 choices

[icy valve]

They need to have homestands again imo. More weekly things to make the apac teams involved with the na teams

Separating the league in two divisions just not working if I am being honest

covid is like a lot better. Get some homestands. Move the teams or some shit

[worn falcon]

yeah, but Bobby is busy in his pool of money and like i said, investors arent like happy

[cobalt mulch]

where do I go to look for an esports team to join good sirs and ladies?

[icy valve]

Yeah I know but they need to turn this around

[plush grail]

ebay

[plush grail]

they cant

[cobalt mulch]

❤️

[icy valve]

bro no way you for real?

[plush grail]

investors are down millions

owl can legit not be saved

[icy valve]

It can with actual good management

[worn falcon]

if they want more teams, people in APAC should buy slots, but still expensive to buy slots

Still, you need to throw millions

[plush grail]

they need to invest even more money, and then they risk even more shit

its over

[worn falcon]

League is hemorrhaging money

[plush grail]

we're getting 1/2 years of owl max

[icy valve]

Idk about that one

It depends on how ow2 continues

[worn falcon]

if anything to save it its like rebuild the entire league and return money to their investors and open slots.

[icy valve]

wdym open slots?

[worn falcon]

for more teams join

rn is a franchised based tournament

[icy valve]

And returning money? That is not gonna be an option for these greedy mfers on top

[worn falcon]

Then there is no way for other orgs joins

[static pond]

Franchising kills esports imo

[icy valve]

Riot is now doing franchised and I am gonna bet you right now they are gonna make it work

[worn falcon]

the slots are expensive

[static pond]

Well at least the price for a slot

[icy valve]

Because the teams that are in challengers can actually RANK up into franchise as far as I understand it

[static pond]

Riot has money

[worn falcon]

riot has money and experience in esports

Blizz hasnt

[plush grail]

riot already has a competitive scene, overwatch had tiny tournaments compared to league

[static pond]

And been in the esports longer then blizzard

[icy valve]

Sorry but I don't buy for a minute that Blizzard has no money. It's just really poorly runned by the higher ups

[plush grail]

apex and other ow tourneys were just for fame, no millions to be made

[worn falcon]

and their most sucessful esport was Starcraft

[icy valve]

Good management is key

[worn falcon]

years ago.

[plush grail]

''good management''

alright buddy

tell them how to do it

let the 14 year old explain it to them

go ahead

[static pond]

It also worth mentioning

[icy valve]

First of all I am 19 second of all I am not studying in management

[static pond]

Riot doesn’t profit off lol esports

[icy valve]

Wait really?

[static pond]

At least according to reports that they don’t profit apparently

[icy valve]

That makes OWL even more bad lmao

[plush grail]

they profit off the sales from merch and in-game items right

[static pond]

Think so

Ya most likely

[plush grail]

they lose money on tournaments but tournaments drive so many people to the game it evens out

[static pond]

They have a lot of fans

So ya that the most likely answer

[worn falcon]

also blizz handled the merch in a wrong way and took time for them to release it and letting orgs to have their stuff

[static pond]

And the sponsors

[worn falcon]

plus they had a list of which sponsors can accept and which ones no.

[plush grail]

paris merch

[worn falcon]

Most of them were friends with Bobby

[static pond]

Didn’t like blizzard move there merch to a different website?

[icy valve]

well yeah the orgs need merch because they needed to pay millions of dollars to even get in the league😂 😂

bro's are broke

[worn falcon]

so this why they couldnt have Pepsi sponsoring OWL since Bobby its in the chair of Coke lol.

[plush grail]

owl is just a shitshow

so many poor decisions

it could have been so big

[worn falcon]

no, they were handled first by them, then to fnatic, then to the orgs.

[plush grail]

but now we're just dragging a dead corpse over the finish line

once contracts run out teams will pull out

[worn falcon]

Honestly they could be big just shot themselves in the foot many times with poor decisions

[static pond]

Couldn’t find the merch after the fnatic thing lol

[worn falcon]

i dont think franchising was a bad thing, just way too expensive and out of proportions and reality of what they wanted.

[static pond]

Ya

Just slots are expensive

[worn falcon]

and they cant lower the price or the orgs would get mad

[static pond]

And I think blizzard has heavy restrictions on sponsors

Or something

[plush grail]

its still so weird to me how we only get content during the main season, ur telling me u cant do a few monthly scrims to keep interest in players

[worn falcon]

they already spent 60 millions on a slot, why would you offer a slot for like 10 millions.

[static pond]

Honestly I would like to have blizzard force teams to have a contenders team

[worn falcon]

bECaUSe iTs UnSporTman-like

[plush grail]

not happening with these teams that already dont care

[static pond]

Have contenders during the off season

Ya sadly

[worn falcon]

they had

[plush grail]

it would be fucking dope if we could see some fantasy rosters play eachother on a monthly basis in the off-season

[worn falcon]

they had their academies lol

[plush grail]

prophet, proper profit dps line

[worn falcon]

and flopped

[static pond]

Ya but I don’t think it was a rule

I think teams just did it lol

[plush grail]

if they force it teams will just do the bare minimum

[worn falcon]

yea, because keeping 2 teams was much money

[static pond]

Ya

[plush grail]

and rn asking orgs to do even more with owl will just kill owl even quicker

[static pond]

Yup

[plush grail]

''run a main team AND a small side-team''

''fuck off''

[static pond]

Still no info on the World Cup?

[plush grail]

world cup will be played in my basement in april.

[worn falcon]

nope, and thats would be like their last hope lol

when almost no one joins and you see how other teams cant afford the planet tickets

or getting bad organization to get a place to practice before OWWC

[static pond]

Who do y’all think Korea team gonna be?

[plush grail]

best case scenario we get xqc to play for canada

[static pond]

Ya proper on there but like who else

[plush grail]

sounds like a joke but xqc could keep world cup alive

[static pond]

This is true

[plush grail]

depends on if they're still doing the different roster every year

or if they're doing duplicates again

[worn falcon]

or if they are on military lol

Proper, Zest, Heesang, Shu, LJG, Max, Hanbin

[static pond]

Proper,lip and heesang

Please I wanna see lip play with proper and heesang

[plush grail]

2019

crusty remains

[static pond]

Haksal out of retirement

[cedar oasis]

Don't let that fraud coach

[static pond]

Still a genji one trick in my eyes

[cedar oasis]

Crusty is a bum

[worn falcon]

CRUSTY BEST COACH 2023!

[cedar oasis]

Someone who picked idk is not a good coach

[plush grail]

fuck it just get these guys

go for nostalgia

[worn falcon]

ryujehongsexist

Man

thats a throwback

[plush grail]

also haksal is lft

together with bumper

like a caretaker

[static pond]

Guessing they be picked up by a apac team

Probably la val

[worn falcon]

valiant gonna pick whatever and not paying them

[static pond]

Ya but hak and bumper are probably very cheap by now

[floral needle]

does anyone have any idea when we'll get the grand finals sojourn skin..? We were supposed to get it a while ago right?

[cunning patrol]

He was the best kr ms at the time

And I’m p sure you had to be older than 18 so no LJG

It was him or slime

[cedar oasis]

anamo?

tobi

[cunning patrol]

LMAO

[next mesa]

💀 what the f

[trim shadow]

Well leauges been going on as long as it is

But the people that run leauge arent borderline stupid

Unlike the twat that is running owl

Or hell the fact blizzard is being held hostage by bobby kotick is already a failure

[static pond]

Does anyone here use earbuds for playing?

I been thinking about using earbuds but idk which are good lol

[next mesa]

headphones

[static pond]

I use headphones

Logtich lol

[worn falcon]

headphones, non logitech, beyerdynamics, but they arent for gaming

if you want something boomy, check the HyperX Cloud

as for ear buds, throw them or just use it for music.

🤓

[full lichen]

I use a Razer headset

[hot onyx]

i use today's sponsor Raycon

the sound it brings out when i play Raid Shadow Legends and listen to Audible audiobooks is so crisp, it really compliments my freshly shaved nutsack after using the Manscaped Lawnmower 3.0

[next mesa]

raycon is like unironically shit tho idk how they got so much money

[hot onyx]

your team is unironically shit

[next mesa]

bro

u are literally seoul infernal

kinda weird to be talking rn

[hot onyx]

fuck seoul

i am a MN3 ZEST fan

just like last season, nothing has changed

[next mesa]

its too bad they will never win anything ever

just like carpe (T1 valorant sucks)

[hot onyx]

it's too bad that once they sign A1ien Clestyn Mag Sanguinar Iris and Teru that there will be no more title winning talent for the Dynasty to pick up

[worn falcon]

they gonna sign Sparkr

[willow drum]

All mid players

Except iris

[north relic]

Mag is him

[willow drum]

Who

[north relic]

mag

unlike o2 shitters

[willow drum]

Asked ?

[north relic]

Sans did

[cursive cypress]

How can get them ?

[hot onyx]

best hitscan in contenders top 5 off tank potential top 5 main tank at peak top 10 main support top tier kiriko that carried Superbitch to 4th in playoffs and a debatable top 5 flex support

that is above average in comparison to the competition, not mid

weird how the person that is asian cannot comprehend simple mathematics

[willow drum]

mid

[plush sparrow]

how hard is it to climb with ana out of silver? i got placed silver even tho i feel like i deserve diamond so how can i rank up to my desired rank?

[north relic]

Ask @willow drum he is a silver ana turned diamond

[cloud latch]

^ this

[dense adder]

I'm trying to do the arcade gamemodes but I'm sitting in 8 minutes queues. What is the most played Arcade mode so that I can do my weekly challenges (Other than the limited time Olympia one because I'm in a party)

[north relic]

Nolimits 3v3

[willow drum]

Depends on how much time

You can put into this shit game

[cloud latch]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980

[south kettle]

GENJI BUFF

GENJI BUFF

[fast sorrel]

its not hard

support is an easy role

if u have good mechanics as ana it'll be the easiest thing youve ever done

unless theyre playing kiriko

but even then silver players are ass they will probs use suzu off cd

[runic quarry]

lf1 gold dps mic required 18+

no wonder i was in the wrong chat yikes

[rare sleet]

where

[balmy wolf]

What do you do with legacy credits nothing?

[balmy wolf]

Anyone want to join a group

[marsh leaf]

qp or comp?

[balmy wolf]

Anyone want to join a group

[next mesa]

lmao mf just ignores the question

[bronze spindle]

go eat oatmeal

[balmy wolf]

Doing that rn

[balmy wolf]

Anyone want to join a group

[latent axle]

no lol

support is not an easy role

you have to worry about ppl diving on you focusing you and other factors while keeping your team alive

[loud elbow]

people who say support is an easy role don't actually play support and just like to trashtalk the other supports

[latent axle]

agreed

[earnest leaf]

Support is a pretty easy role until you get to high ranks. And even there your kit has so much power FS wise you can slack off

[north relic]

Support is easier compared to tank and dps

[loud elbow]

tbh dps is the easiest role but also the 2nd most stressful

[north relic]

Dps is the hardest role

[worthy drum]

Rn playing support is like playing dead by daylight

[north relic]

It really isn’t

It’s a hog meta

Just heal your hog and don’t peek their hog at all

[worthy drum]

That doesn’t make it any better for supports

[north relic]

it makes it easier

Than dps and tank

Dps and tank have to peek hog to do anything or flank/off angle which is harder

[worthy drum]

And supports have to heal everyone, provide utility, and watch out for flankers and oneshots

[north relic]

Dps have to watch for flankers and one shots and trying to kill the enemy is a lot harder than healing your team

It’s easier to dive a dps than a support tbh

[worthy drum]

Killing is way easier since damage is higher than healing atm

[north relic]

some have invul others have 100hp instant heal

[north relic]

what healing your team you don’t have to expose yourself to danger at all and your team isn’t actively trying to avoid your shots

[worthy drum]

So that’s why whenever people play dive to go after the supports

[north relic]

Supports are more important but they are stupid characters with tp immortality insta heals

Five second cc

[worthy drum]

I don’t know what game you are playing, but when you are healing your team, they are usually pushing and you need to follow them

[worthy drum]

Like it or not, it’s the only think keeping the support role alive rn

[north relic]

Ok but you can still heal them without exposing yourself to danger

[worthy drum]

Until they los you

[vagrant cargo]

It's a easy role

Support players are the biggest crybabies

[north relic]

If they los you it’s their fault

[vagrant cargo]

It's actually insane

[north relic]

you don’t have to peek them

[worthy drum]

So if they push to get space it’s their fault?

[vagrant cargo]

I'm worse on support than on tank and dps yet my impact in games is 10 times as high because the average level of support is so low

[loud elbow]

play support and find out.

[north relic]

If you are actively putting yourself in a bad spot to heal them then yes

[loud elbow]

Supports have the hardest job out of any role

actively keeping their team alive

[vagrant cargo]

LMFAOOOOOOOO

Okay bud

[north relic]

I have the lowest time on support and it’s my highest role

[vagrant cargo]

If u think support is just healing and keeping the team alive then ur proving my point

[loud elbow]

dps you just damage and tanks are versatile

[vagrant cargo]

Most support players don't even understand the role of their hero It's crazy

[worthy drum]

Isn’t it proving their point since they need to do all that + more?

[loud elbow]

most dps players don't understand how support works and it just sounds like you're getting mad

[vagrant cargo]

Keeping ur team alive isn't hard by default

How challenging it is depends on various factors

[worthy drum]

Ok, but the top 500 support mains share the same feeling of support being the hardest and unfun

[vagrant cargo]

Most kits are actually loaded

[loud elbow]

keeping your team alive is extremely hard when you have to focus on 3-4 people at at a time while managing your own cooldowns and positioning

[north relic]

Ask dps and tank players what they think

[vagrant cargo]

It isn't

[worthy drum]

Why

[loud elbow]

Next thing you're gonna tell me is that dps is the hardest role in the game right?

[vagrant cargo]

Quote?

[north relic]

see if they have different answers

[vagrant cargo]

Fdps is yeah

[worthy drum]

Literally just watch their streams

[north relic]

I agree

[vagrant cargo]

Because they need to grind a shitton of heros

[loud elbow]

yeah that's all I needed to hear, you're just coping

[vagrant cargo]

I'm not tho lol

Ask any pro they will tell u fdps is the hardest

[loud elbow]

Okay

[vagrant cargo]

Hitscan is rather easy

[north relic]

do you really think kiriko ana bap zen is harder than genji echo tracer

[worthy drum]

I bet you scream at your supports when you 1v5 behind 5 walls

[vagrant cargo]

Because raw mechanics can just carrie u

[vagrant cargo]

Cope

[vagrant cargo]

Give me names

[worthy drum]

That’s what you are doing

[vagrant cargo]

How so

I'm not the one trying to claim support is the hardest role

[loud elbow]

Kiriko alone could match tracer in terms of difficulty but We're talking about the role itself and not just the heroes in that category

[vagrant cargo]

When it's literally proven that it's the most boosted role

[loud elbow]

yeah a lot of people think support is the hardest role, you're just one out of the bunch

[worthy drum]

Gonna provide proof on that?

[vagrant cargo]

Hence why the support gap is always insanely noticeable

Ask any GM+player

They will tell u that supports are usually the worst players in the lobby

[loud elbow]

no it's usually the dps players that are the worst but keep dreaming

[vagrant cargo]

It's also why u notice the difference between a good support and a shit support

Shit supports can still get away by healbotting

They wont carrie u or have massive impact yet they can still win

[loud elbow]

Supports have a huge impact on the game though/

[vagrant cargo]

Yes literally what I said

Lol?

Actual good supports can make a crazy difference

[loud elbow]

but you're not providing any actual evidence as to why support is the 'easiest' role

[vagrant cargo]

Literally did

U can healbot and get away with it

[worthy drum]

That doesn’t prove that it is easy

[vagrant cargo]

There is heros like mercy who's whole point is to pocket

[loud elbow]

You didn't provide anything I see. You were just talking about shit supports healbotting can have impact

That doesn't prove that the role is 'easy'

[north relic]

What makes you think dps are the bad players

[vagrant cargo]

yalls reading comprehension is hella funny

[loud elbow]

yeah an Orisa can soak up damage and provide value but that doesn't mean Orisa is easy by default

[worthy drum]

At least I’m not the one who thinks support is easier than dps

[loud elbow]

nah man dps is clearly the hardest role in the game

just because they can 'do damage' and provide value

[north relic]

Do you think soldier shooting hogs wins games

[worthy drum]

Dps are currently controlling this game, tanks are super buffed and running around…and supports stayed the same pretty much

[north relic]

But kiriko holding left click on yours does

[vagrant cargo]

Okay let me rephrase it to you so even yall get it:
-support is not a hard role to play at a baseline level in OW because you can get away easily with ur mistakes and still win, prime example here is mercy.
As someone who used to boost/knows boosters I also know that the demographic that wants boosts is nearly always supports that claim their team holds them back.
ofc mastering support, especially flex support isn't easy like my highest peak on support only was like 3800 and in OW 2 it was diamond 2 (I'm also washed tho).

[loud elbow]

the problem isn't with any of the roles is that the dps is far too high right now for any hero outside of Orisa

[vagrant cargo]

Orisa literally does insane damage

[loud elbow]

I wasn't talking about how high her damage is, she's literally the only tank that can deal with the outright insane damage levels right now

[vagrant cargo]

Now to elaborate my point

[worthy drum]

The problem people have with her is how survivable she is

[loud elbow]

the problem is with this, yeah sure, you can pocket one person but you're leaving the other support to have to do all the heavy lifting which makes the work-load extra hard

[north relic]

It isn’t because pocketing a good dps just makes them kill one

[vagrant cargo]

A lot of supports have abilities that make up for their shit positioning/decision making.
Most support players do not use these abilities correct and waste them on them self causing their teams to lose fights etc.
yet they can still get away with it because as long as they healbot they provide at least some value

This leads to a lot of bad players climbing the ranks on support

u don't have that for dps (besides specific metas) or tanks (same case here, mainly in OW1)

[loud elbow]

Supports still need to think about their positioning, just because they have ways to manage their positioning if they're out of position doesn't excuse the fact that they shouldn't even be in that spot to begin with.

That is more of a player issue than a support role issue

[north relic]

Supports can get away with it though

Dps can’t

so supports rank despite making that mistake

[vagrant cargo]

Also back when I coached in OW1 (for example HSR panthera a team that had several tier 2 players in it) I noticed that too

[worthy drum]

What dps

[vagrant cargo]

The difference between supports in GM was insane

[loud elbow]

Again, they shouldn't even be in that position to begin with.

[worthy drum]

Dps have way more mobility than support

[vagrant cargo]

Like no other role had such a gap between players

[vagrant cargo]

Every single hero needs to think about their positioning

[worthy drum]

So…how does that prove support is easy

[vagrant cargo]

?????

[loud elbow]

It's especially relevant for supports since supports are the back-bone of the team

[vagrant cargo]

Holy shit

It's relevant for EVERY hero

[loud elbow]

I'm not denying that, I'm just saying Supports have to think about their positioning way more than say a Genji or Junkrat

[vagrant cargo]

Positioning and decision making is what separates players at the top in most cases

[vagrant cargo]

Bullshit lol

Have u ever played genji in a high elo game

Or a high elo scrimm

[worthy drum]

Have you played support in a high elo game?

[vagrant cargo]

Yes

[loud elbow]

Genji is far more mobile than any support outside of Kiriko, so he can afford to make a small mistake a lot more than a support can.

[worthy drum]

Not go mention he has deflect

[vagrant cargo]

His mobility isn't nearly as forgiving as u think it is in higher level games lmfao

[worthy drum]

But supports are?

[vagrant cargo]

Yes

Literally yes

[loud elbow]

Some backwards logic you have there

[vagrant cargo]

They are forgiving because they can still have impact while having shit cooldown usage

U don't have that with dps

[loud elbow]

they don't have impact if their positioning is shit, the dps role is generally just a lot more mobile overall and can afford to be out of position since they have ways of escape, only a few supports have means of escaping

[worthy drum]

You miss sleep and anti, how does that provide impact

That provides an in for a genji or tracer

Or Winston

[vagrant cargo]

See there is the first issue

U think of the game as a 1v1 scenario only

[loud elbow]

anti is used for 1v1s?

huh

[vagrant cargo]

If ur shit positioned as a dps u don't have a way of escaping

[loud elbow]

guess I've been playing ana wrong

[vagrant cargo]

It's so much more

[worthy drum]

That makes it worst for supports, they have to deal with the onslaught of 3-5 players, while keeping their team alive

[loud elbow]

m8 you missed the point entirely.

[vagrant cargo]

If u use ur antis for 1v1s then ur literally the typa player I'm talking about

[loud elbow]

If you'd kept reading, I was well aware that you're not supposed to use anti for 1v1s.

And you say our reading comprehension is hella funny

[vagrant cargo]

Ur sentence implied that u said antis is used for 1v1s and questioned my statement

[loud elbow]

.

[vagrant cargo]

Implies that u "mocked" my sentence because I said it shouldn't be used for 1v1s

May I ask what yall ranks are btw

[loud elbow]

It's because we both already knew that Anti shouldn't be used for 1v1s.

[vagrant cargo]

doesn't seem like it

[loud elbow]

I was making that joke that you assumed that we both thought that anti was meant to be used in a 1v1 scenario

but keep jumping to conclusions instead of reading everything first

[vagrant cargo]

by reading I come to a conclusion

Crazy diss bra

[loud elbow]

your reading comprehension must be off then

[vagrant cargo]

But again lemme know what's ur rank

Stop dodging

[loud elbow]

I peaked Gold in OW1, not sure how rank matters when all of this is basic gamesense.

[vagrant cargo]

LOL

yeah okay have a nice day

[worthy drum]

Gm2 support

[loud elbow]

Oh you're that person.

[worthy drum]

Or 4

[vagrant cargo]

Then ur one of the boosted ppl I mean fasho

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I always get the numbers mixed up

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Because no way an actual GM support thinks the role isn't massively inflated and easy to have impact with

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if I were you I'd just stop talking to him, he's one of those people that think ranks is the difference between stupid or smart

he's clearly a troll that wants attention

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So if someone is lower rank than you, they are bad…but if they are higher, they are boosted?

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If u, a gold player, tries to lecture me about how ow works I'm just gonna laugh

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Who said ur higher :^)

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anyways, let's get into some actual OWL discussion.

Who do you think one the trades this year?

I'd say Glads had a solid pickup in Kai

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Glads…I wonder what this year will look like

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Any dps player is a good pickup because it's an easy role

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Maybe we won't choke as much this year

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There is no way dps is bad because it's so east

also everyone can be good on dps

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without Shu and Skewed we're gonna need some heavy kevster carrying

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But looks like they will keep the traditional new main tank every year XD

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who's their new main tank? I only know that we've picked up Kai unless he's the main tank

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Kai isn't confirmed

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It's heavily speculated we'll be getting him though

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yeah but far from confirmed

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If only we had fucking Lip but he's on reign

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Well is on the fact that Reiner is gone (probably to Toronto with the rest of American tornado)

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Lip + Kai would be pretty devastating

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So unless they get an old mt they once had

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It's most likely danteh

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Danteh would be a nice pairing with kevster

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New gladiators roster looks anything but inspiring tbh

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We needed to keep Shu and Skewed tbh

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I’m not so high on Kai rn, kinda had an eh end of season

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they carried the Glads for most of 2020-2021

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Lastro is a insane downgrade

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Neither shu nor skewed played for glads in 2020

It wash Shaz and Goose in season 3

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Can’t wait to hear the casters mess up lastro and funnyastro

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huh, was fairly certain they did but it might've been later on in the season

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Nice you included wash

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I miss Goose tbh

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Both skewed and shu were S4 pickups

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Goose was a fairly solid Lucio

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Shus Baptiste carried charge with Eileen's genji to their only title

Also goose was dogshit

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Shu's Bap is fucking nuts

he's the reason I'm currently 'one-tricking' Bap

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He was a good Lucio for S1 when Dhak was considered a top 3 Lucio lol

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? They had a top 5 orisa in Rio (god)

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tbf, Goose could only really play Lucio lol

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The best off-season is either Atlanta or shock

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he was mediocre on every other pick

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Probably shock

Heesang is a top 3 fdps

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reign szn

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Vindaim is a top 2 ms

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I still worry about hawk being the solo tank

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Kevster is best tracer NA

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?

Proper is clear

I'm the biggest kevster fan since 2019 because he rolled everyone on the EU ladder

But proper is clear and it has also been stated by coaches lol

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Kevster won the title for the glads with his bomb play tbh

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Dpei who literally worked with kevster said that proper is better because he can vocalize his thoughts perfectly with the team

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Has proper been diffed at all this season?

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I wonder how he'll perform with a different support lineup

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And he told kevster that he needs to do the same to improve

Kevster was crazy good with shaz and goose

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Man Gladiators are a wild team

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He will be the only championship level player on glads tho lol

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Didn’t proper win roty and mvp

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Shu challenged him for that title tbh

when he was on glads

his bap and zen are fucking clean

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I'm talking about season 6?

Glads roster is shaping up to be like

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It will be 2018 Glads all over again and Idk how to feel about it

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you don’t think the bird was championship lvl?

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Kai Kevster Yaki Danteh and a OT that I can't leak+lastro funnyastro and potentially a new fs

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??

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That's the reddit dream roster right there

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why is lastro hyped

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Because he played Lucio and ppl always overhype supports

There is literally ppl that think crimzo is a class player

The disparity between supports is the biggest in any role in tier 1 tbh

Especially mainsupp

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Chiyo vindaim fastro

And then nobody

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Ch0r0ng

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I forgor him