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willow drum
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theyre gonna bench him

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for chiyo fielder

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which is so sad

icy valve
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Idk about that

karmic charm
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?

icy valve
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Depends on meta

willow drum
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in standard fs ms

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you prolly bench the vig

stray pond
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germany has hadi so if they buff rein maybe?

icy valve
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We also saw a lot of double flex support meta. Also am I crazy to say that if meta is zen with main support you play Vigilante over fielder

karmic charm
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also does Landon have a shot at US roster

willow drum
willow drum
stray pond
icy valve
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Landon hell no

willow drum
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UV crimzo better than landon

icy valve
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Crimzo canadian tho

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No?

karmic charm
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landon is underrated imo

karmic charm
icy valve
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Yeah landon is underratd but no way in hell he playing over UV

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Which is sad

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and tbf if I am USA as a world cup team I would just pick the american tornado roster because of chemistry

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So basically the Toronto Defiant

karmic charm
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if rawkus can win owwc I believe landon has a shot for the team

icy valve
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And korea didn't pick the best lineup they could have had

karmic charm
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yeah they had bdosin idk

icy valve
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even their dps line and tank line wasn't the best they could have had back then

frosty patrol
icy valve
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Let’s be honest. Even as a Reign fan I gotta admit dogman wasn’t that good. Did bring amazing content tho. But so did Rawkus

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Rawkus had cake bro. Players so distracted they couldn’t play anymore

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His cake was different

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Was very likely to happen

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Shock are gonna be stacked as fuck

willow drum
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who could have guessed.

icy valve
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yeah this just made to much sense tbh

vagrant cargo
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Landon is as mediocre as it gets for FLex supoort

icy valve
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Bro Shock is in the best place in the entire league. Being able to always promote O2 blast players is insanely good for them

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I don't see Shock ever becoming bad. Not if they keep promoting O2 blast players

willow drum
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and he said

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sorry!

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i dont know!

icy valve
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Real shit? Damn

worn falcon
icy valve
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Well tbh this screams to me that he does know lmao

willow drum
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LOL

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theres no other way

icy valve
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Idk man

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Or is Viol2t going military service?

plush bridge
icy valve
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Depends on meta

plush bridge
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what can they play better than one of those 2

worn falcon
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They need someone to bench smurf

icy valve
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striker reaper and Decay incase of a double flex dps meta

plush bridge
icy valve
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You think they need someone to bench Smurf?

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For me it would make no sense to sign another tank

plush bridge
icy valve
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Birdring flex dps? Does he not mostly play hitscan

plush bridge
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no but he plays reaper

willow drum
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lol real talk though

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mayhems dps line

icy valve
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For reaper you play Striker on that roster imo

willow drum
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is just budget version

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of shocks

icy valve
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Yeah Mayhem dps line is actually very solid tbh

willow drum
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topdragon checkmate

icy valve
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But not as good as Shock's obviously

willow drum
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is just budget proper heesang

icy valve
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And not as good as Reign

plush bridge
willow drum
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because reign have fdps hs

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mayhem is fdps fdps

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oh yeah mer1t

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mayhem will be solid

icy valve
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Bro I think this season Stalk3r is gonna pop the fuck off

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Last year he was great when he played but still was playing second fiddle imo. He is gonna break out this year

vagrant cargo
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Second best flex dps rookie of last year will be really good on a team that has chiyo lip fielder and vigilante

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SHOCKING take

icy valve
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No but listen. Last year he mostly played in midseason madness and Summer showdown. For the rest it was mostly fits, profit

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It's not that he was not the second best rookie coming into the league joining a super team but more that he did not show his full potential last year

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I believe he is gonna explode

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Like Role star level good. Will he be as good as Proper or Heesang? Prob not. But he is gonna pop off

willow drum
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i have doubts

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about stalk3r being role star

icy valve
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Fair. But I truly believe he is gonna explode this season

willow drum
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since proper kevster lip are all lock ins for role star

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so stalk3r is fighting with so many good players

icy valve
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Again fair

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Well tbh. idk if Kevster is a lock this season

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We don't know Glads roster as of now

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It could be middle of the pact if they don't start announcing players

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Because Reiner is going to Toronto, Skewed to Outlaws and Space is gone to right?

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this means that their roster could be very mid considering all the good players are already being picked up. And you can only be as good as the rest of your team. So maybe Kevster is not gonna have the same impact

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But Proper and Lip are for sure a lock for this season

worthy drum
icy valve
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yeah this is what I read

willow drum
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theyre cooking

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alright

icy valve
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I find this roster such a weird blend tho

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Iris, fits and alphayi combined with benbest, vestola and FDgod

tiny pollen
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Alphayi fits on min salary

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LOL

icy valve
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Well Alphayi, fits and Ir1s are solid players. But both tanks and FDgod are just not that good imo

tiny pollen
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I think fd might be good

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The tanks suck tho

icy valve
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Fits, Alphayi also have no experience on a mixed roster

icy valve
willow drum
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Are on justice

icy valve
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You mean Alphayi and Iris?

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true yeah

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Even Fits

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Those 3 were on good teams and are now on min 50k salary

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Insane

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excited to see Alphayi in NA tho

karmic charm
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why does this chat seem to think min salary for owl is bad

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its still a great salary

tiny pollen
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50k isn't good

karmic charm
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yes it is

tiny pollen
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Esp for how much time they put in

icy valve
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Compared to other esports it isn't. And those low tier rosters don't pay their players until season begins I heard

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And that might take a while meaning they are out here playing 8 to 10 hours a day while not getting payed

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Just a bad salary

tiny pollen
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12 hour 7 days a week

karmic charm
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lots of people work that

icy valve
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yeah that is a better number

karmic charm
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and get alot less

icy valve
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You have to think eSports salary and not average work salary

karmic charm
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a job is a job

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50k is still a great and very livable salary

icy valve
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and 12 hours a day the entire week? that's 84 hours. Do people work 84 hours a week?

karmic charm
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lots of people in healthcare do yes

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or even factory workers

icy valve
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I'm sorry. It's just not a good salary for eSports enviorment

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It's just not

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The average Physician according to studies work 51 hours a week

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And according to other studies(that I can find as of now) it's not healthy to work 55 hours a week

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84 hours a week is insane and you know it

karmic charm
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also

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they will get money from sponsorships etc too

icy valve
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Lower end teams won't

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Or not enough

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To live comfy

karmic charm
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?

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you can live more than comfy off 50k lmao

tiny pollen
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Pro players don't get sponsorships

icy valve
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You know what. You go get a job and say you want to work 84 hours a week. Let's see how long you last

karmic charm
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my dad works 84 hrs a week lol

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12 hours a day in a factory

tiny pollen
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That sucks

icy valve
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It's legit not healthy bro

karmic charm
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he gets like 35k per year

icy valve
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It's legit not healthy

karmic charm
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i said 50k is a good salary

tiny pollen
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50k is a eh salary

icy valve
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For doing 84 hours a week it ain't a good salary

karmic charm
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in what world is it eh

tiny pollen
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And not good for 84 hours a week

karmic charm
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thats good

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lol

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on average esports players earn around 50-60k per year

icy valve
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Yeah but they get paid when they scrim before that to get ready aswell

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Low tier teams won't

karmic charm
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i doubt owl would allow a contract like that

icy valve
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it is happening rn

karmic charm
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where

icy valve
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ON THE BUDGET TEAMS

karmic charm
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source..?

icy valve
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Which is why we are having this conversation

icy valve
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Damn

karmic charm
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youre the one claiming it

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so yeah

icy valve
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Go search for yourself tbh

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I ain't doing that

karmic charm
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also if they are only getting a salary from when the league starts

icy valve
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Believe what you want

karmic charm
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then thats an even better hourly salary

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lmfao

karmic charm
icy valve
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Bruv I DON'T KNOW WHERE I EXACTLY READ IT. All I know is that I read it from a reliable source. Call me out all you want, it's what I read

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I ain't searching twitter completely because I have other shit to do. Believe what you want. I don't care

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anyways have fun👋

karmic charm
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u have other shit to do so why are u here backing this up still

icy valve
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Can I please play my games in peace

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God damn

karmic charm
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ur the one still carrying this on..

worthy drum
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lol

twin bloom
worthy drum
willow drum
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50k in nyc or la is rough

twin bloom
static pond
twin bloom
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Damn

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Thats shocking

vagrant jacinth
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WHAT

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Philly just dies like that??

karmic charm
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another seoul team???

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couldve been like

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busan infernal

vagrant jacinth
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Owl2029 it's all Seoul

north relic
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philly second in renaming

static pond
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This is gonna be a problem most teams name make money from there city

twin bloom
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2nd best seoul team

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Thats crazy

mortal cipher
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Two Seoul teams interesting

cloud latch
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that's what Iwas thinking

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Ig maybe cause they're stationed in seoul but still

sullen berry
karmic charm
sullen berry
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Philadelphia Fusion rebranding to the Seoul Infernal

vagrant jacinth
karmic charm
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it is

sullen berry
vagrant jacinth
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I don't like it lmao

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Titans logo but in red

twin bloom
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And liked rawkus

sullen berry
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can't get past the announcement link, the site is going to crash some this morning

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karmic charm
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As we gear up for next season, we’ve been evaluating how we can best compete at a consistent, championship level, and we’ve realized that our franchise will be best positioned to succeed in Seoul

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what is the correlation between competing at a championship level and being in seoul

sullen berry
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as far as considering how hard this hits Fusion Fans, it's pretty hard

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but not even close to the regional distortion fields of NYXL whose brand has been turned into a worse version of themselves each year

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still leagues ahead of Valiant in terms of most disappointing and unexpected rebrands

vagrant jacinth
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Less things to worry about so they can focus on competing without hindrance

karmic charm
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i guess, but even then theyd already been competitng in seoul no? just representing philly

vagrant jacinth
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Yeah, but ig they just decided to stay in Seoul indefinitely

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Makes more sense to rebrand than being called philly but playing from korea

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At least they'll be repping the city they're actually playing in

karmic charm
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atleast they actually changed their logo unlike eternal

frosty patrol
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I would've rebranded to Busan Infernal

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instead of Seoul

karmic charm
vagrant jacinth
karmic charm
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busan infernal just sounds better

sullen berry
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okay but for an american league, I'm not surprised that they go with two seoul franchises

vagrant jacinth
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Busan Infernal would've been better

frosty patrol
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also the seoul vs philly lan events have been in busan so having those be "homestands" would be cool

sullen berry
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pretending that another chinese team can't be announced like an actual rebranding of LA Valiant

agile lake
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LMAO Fusion

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This next OWL season is gonna be something

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Vegas Eternal drama keeping their logo
NYXL "inclusive" roaster that will just be hell
Fusion abandoning all their fans officially after leaving them to dust 2 years ago when they switch to ASIA

frosty patrol
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owl asked them to move in s4

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they just never left

agile lake
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Wasnt aware but they could've 100% come back

vagrant jacinth
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Philly really bowing out without winning anything

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Bring me a London home game I beg

agile lake
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Only 1 European team left and its all korean

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Meanwhile there's 10 French FA

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Including Poko, Benbest, REALLY good players

limpid grail
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poko retired

frosty patrol
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benbest is going to justice and is also no longer a good player

agile lake
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He kinda retired cause he didnt really had good options anymore, no more space

frosty patrol
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like post-owl benbest is shit

agile lake
frosty patrol
karmic charm
frosty patrol
frosty patrol
limpid grail
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London hasn't really gotten anyone yet iirc

karmic charm
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ya

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but not going korean

frosty patrol
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that’s about it

karmic charm
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current london roster (sparkr restricted fa)

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karmic charm
trim shadow
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Aint no way

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This is a troll account

karmic charm
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unfortunately its not 😭

frosty patrol
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rebranding so they can win a title

trim shadow
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FZ98_codm_cryingoutloud this season is going to shit and hasnt even started

rare magnet
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seoul infernal wow ok

karmic charm
trim shadow
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Sorry guys owl wont last 2 more years

karmic charm
rare magnet
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another official korea team kinda cool tho

trim shadow
frosty patrol
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this probably means apac is going to stay a thing and either cn teams are moving operations to kr or we get a deal soon

trim shadow
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Well i guess

frosty patrol
trim shadow
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It isnt season 2 where everyone is in los angeles

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But los angeles is poverty

karmic charm
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they wouldnt get 50k if living in cali anyway

trim shadow
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And blizzard is california based UV99_codm_hidethepain

frosty patrol
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if owl players were paying rent they’d need more obv

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but they’re not

karmic charm
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also dont many teams have team houses ?

static pond
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Ya

karmic charm
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which would mean food etc would likely be covered

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too

static pond
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Players sleep there

trim shadow
static pond
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Nyxl had one

frosty patrol
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they go home

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and still don’t pay rent

trim shadow
frosty patrol
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unless they’re oldass players

worn falcon
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Pekin Valiant when

frosty patrol
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but like sugarfree is not gonna be paying rent in offseason

turbid cargo
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Time to buy phillifusion skins

karmic charm
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i dont think any owl player currently pays for their own housing

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even in off season

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i could be wrong but idk

worn falcon
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Since Valiant is in Chinese org hands

static pond
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Probably buy all of fusion skins now lol

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Was hoping nyxl would change to black and white

karmic charm
worn falcon
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Beijing Chickens

karmic charm
worthy drum
raw ermine
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ah you did post it

trim shadow
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The more i hate this leauge FZ98_codm_cryingoutloud

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Next thing you know atlanta moves to tokyo

hot onyx
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i am livid

static pond
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If people are wondering it seems like dragons are gonna be building a rookie team

cedar oasis
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Cool

karmic charm
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are the cn teams gonna be relocating to kr cities too?

willow drum
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Top 5 HS taking league minimum

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What a joke LOL

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Unitonically would be insane on shock

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Buy out his contract

willow drum
karmic charm
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all players have housing covered tho dont they?

tiny pollen
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Kind of

static pond
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Usually ya but i think some players chose to live in separate areas

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Justice had a facility and apartments idk if the players rented it or the justice covered it

icy valve
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Idk some teams do some teams don't

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Bro we were hating on Paris for rebranding and now Philly does it to😂

static pond
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In Korea I think most teams sleep in a facility

vagrant jacinth
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The slow drawn out death of owl

willow drum
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Philly is extremely hateable

turbid cargo
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Predicting rebranding for shd

willow drum
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Since they’re owned by cumcast

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Lol this season is a wash anyway

turbid cargo
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Or Mabye at least a color change

willow drum
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Shocks gonna win the last season of owl

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Hope owl dies

icy valve
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Halo saying leakmafia is wrong. We might see a leak war even tho leakmafia leaked most of the stuff and halo did nothing

willow drum
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Halo leaked 2 things

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And got them both wrong

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LMAO

vagrant jacinth
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Phillys is understandable

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Imo

icy valve
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True

vagrant jacinth
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Paris just aren't even trying

willow drum
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first was the chorong reign

vagrant jacinth
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Best chance for a fresh start and they don't go for it

icy valve
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If he doesn't say what his supposed justice roster is after he is trying to make his ego go higher by saying leakmafia is wrong I am gonna laugh at this guy

willow drum
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and then he said unique Dallas

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Was playing

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Like lol they played bliss

icy valve
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Yeah halo is ass so far this offseason

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ngl

twin bloom
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HelloIMHaloOFTHOUGHTS

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Has no sources

icy valve
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yeah bro has not leaked so far and is always the first to call someone wrong lmao

twin bloom
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Halos leaks

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Have always been after leakMafia

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Like when he "leaked"aspire

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Staying on titans

willow drum
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We should bait halo

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See if we can spread some diabolical shit

twin bloom
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That doesnt exist

icy valve
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YEAH

willow drum
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Of course

icy valve
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Do that shit

willow drum
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My bad

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Halo gets his info from reliable sources

worthy drum
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Leakmafia vs Halo

willow drum
vagrant jacinth
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Lol

willow drum
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I hope the Brit crybaby is arrested

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Somehow

icy valve
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this will be very good

twin bloom
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VOTE YES

icy valve
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done

worthy drum
icy valve
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AHAHHAAHAHA

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Aint no way

willow drum
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OWN

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OWN THAT BITCH

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LETS GO LEAK MAFIA

icy valve
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Halo actually got rolled there lmfao

merry holly
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how much comp thing u need to get gold wepon

icy valve
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3k no?

willow drum
merry holly
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and how much u get per game?

willow drum
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Or two hundred wins

willow drum
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End of season rank reward also gives some

worthy drum
north relic
vagrant jacinth
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Bros is going offff

willow drum
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And probably you no life the game

north relic
willow drum
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Wow

earnest leaf
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A lot of people could be leakers for owl

north relic
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lip is my dad

earnest leaf
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Pretty much just need a friend in owl

north relic
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lip is my dad

worthy drum
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fake news

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um...

cloud latch
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I wanna see leakmafia's dms

worthy drum
cunning patrol
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They don’t twerk

vagrant cargo
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Leakmadia ontop imho

next mesa
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NOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKKK

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FITS WASTED

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ITS OVER

trim shadow
trim shadow
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Unless t1 did a hostile takeover

earnest leaf
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if that roster is real it looks solid

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it's pretty much a different version of s3 paris

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Just needs one of benbest/vestola to not be a shitter and it will work

cunning patrol
vagrant cargo
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Nop

cunning patrol
vagrant cargo
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I'm just friends w them

cunning patrol
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2 shitters

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Bro getamazed nepotism

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Preventing a midtable performance

next mesa
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i know

earnest leaf
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didn't getamazed take daan over benbest in s4

cunning patrol
vagrant cargo
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Good move imho

cunning patrol
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Agreed

twin bloom
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But avalla wanted daan

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Iirc

vagrant jacinth
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Bellingham good

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Done deal?

limpid grail
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man what the heck

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I'm not mentally

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registering

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that Philly rebranded

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they actually just screwed over all that merch

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and it was such a goated logo

willow drum
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How much is rma buying belling for

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90 mil?

cunning patrol
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Not official I don’t think but I doubt it doesn’t happen

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It was a #RELIABLE SOURCE

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Imo

karmic charm
vagrant jacinth
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@cunning patrol who you support?

vagrant jacinth
jagged crater
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what's the deal with APAC right now? I thought it was kinda fuzzy but fusion rebranding to seoul means it might be fine?

cunning patrol
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As an American it is my duty to support every oil club

vagrant jacinth
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That's pretty based

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City > United anyways

karmic charm
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both <

vagrant cargo
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Manchester is blue imho

trim shadow
balmy wolf
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wtf

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happened to fusion

trim shadow
balmy wolf
trim shadow
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So theres 17 teams playing this year

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Valiant is lost in hell

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Fusion are just dead

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Murdered in broad daylight

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New york dont know what fuck is going on over there

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Anyone else?

cunning patrol
vagrant cargo
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They dk u lil bro

cunning patrol
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They do tho..?

vagrant jacinth
tawdry hamlet
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Philly infernal pain continues

tiny pollen
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whats philly?

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im a new fan and only know seoul infernal

cloud latch
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that's crazy how philly become 2nd in being a seoul team

willow drum
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how many times has the shock been 2nd

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2 times in 19

cloud latch
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4 this season

willow drum
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only 3

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s2 s3 and playoffs

cloud latch
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OH

willow drum
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how many times were fusion 2nd

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6 or 7?

worn falcon
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Enough to make carpe going valorant

willow drum
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benzema!

dull kraken
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i honestly think daan earned the spot from the blocks i saw

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but it's been years, my memory might be failing

vagrant jacinth
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I could see it honestly

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Thanks for the insight btw

balmy wolf
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a team should sign spilo

dull kraken
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yea ofc

balmy wolf
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tbh

vagrant jacinth
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Fr

dull kraken
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when the legendardy BAAZO says his peace, I have to show respect

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nah im not interested in owl

balmy wolf
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what a chad

vagrant jacinth
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Based

dull kraken
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no money, no growth opportunities, no future, no rizz

balmy wolf
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hes describing me fr

dull kraken
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Jake's same case

vagrant jacinth
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Bro is spittin

dull kraken
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ive got family and content/private coaching has been 10x as fun

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and there's a chance i make over minimum wage in content as well 🥴

twin bloom
balmy wolf
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telling ppl how trash they are is indeed a lot of fun

vagrant jacinth
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The grand finals gave me so much hope

twin bloom
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@cunning patrol

vagrant jacinth
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But everything happening now post season...

twin bloom
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You are reffering to him

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Imo

vagrant jacinth
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Best of luck based spilo

dull kraken
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no im not, im referring to the brave member who daily fights the jaws of the french hivemind

dull kraken
vagrant jacinth
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The french have been barred from owl 🙏

cunning patrol
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What @twin bloom

twin bloom
dull kraken
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whichever one is the sigma male on twitter

worthy drum
earnest leaf
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2021 shd simping go crazy by yiska

twin bloom
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They had the goat "fleta"

earnest leaf
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Yiska just loves that team for some reason

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like when he dubbed fate the best ow 1 MT lmao

twin bloom
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He was

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Shock still clears tho

frosty patrol
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but I assume he is

tropic herald
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Even relative

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They were cracked

frosty patrol
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imho

tropic herald
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2 to who

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2019 shock ?

frosty patrol
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2020 sf cock imo

tropic herald
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2020 had actual competition

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2021 Shanghai only had international competition

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For one stage

frosty patrol
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well yeah and they were still consistently top 1-2 in every meta except an awful one for them where they were 4th

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despite how stacked the league was

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like dominance in a season with top heavy as shit talent like 2020 I weight higher

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than dominance in a season without that really being the case

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besides fuel

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and somewhat glads reign hunters

tropic herald
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Shanghai had no competition by the end of the season

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Teams were lucky to get a map

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2020 shock end season still wasn’t like that

frosty patrol
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but they were not the best team of the first half by any stretch

tropic herald
#

Neither was 2020 Shock

frosty patrol
tropic herald
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Unless I am mis remembering

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Shock had close games

frosty patrol
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yes in a season where talent was giga top heavy

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and concentrated

tropic herald
#

Okay yeah

tiny pollen
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2021 shd was best team in how the played the game compared to other teams

tropic herald
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They went to map 5

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With Seoul and Shanghai

stray pond
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im pretty sure it was bound to happen to philly someday after they went to the east

tropic herald
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Shanghai dropped 2 maps over the whole of playoffs

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And they had like double the matches

frosty patrol
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shock had one more I think

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remember there was the whole “NA playoffs” too

tropic herald
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Oh I will look at those

frosty patrol
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imo by stage removing 2021 stage 4

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shanghai went 2nd 2nd 1st 1st in strength

tropic herald
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Shock dropped 4 maps in NA playoffs and 6 in grand finals

frosty patrol
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shock went 1st 4th 1st 1st

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or 1st 4th 2nd 1st if you want to say shanghai was better in cc

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which is agreeable

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and under the first one

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I take shock

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with the top heavy talent taken into account

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under the second one it’s close taking into account top heaviness

tropic herald
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Second stage they

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Win

frosty patrol
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they were not stronger than fuel

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they won that stage while being worse

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imo

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fuel just choked

tropic herald
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I think that is cope

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If you win you win

frosty patrol
#

like croatia does not clear brazil

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but they beat brazil

tropic herald
#

They are better

earnest leaf
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I rate s3 shock highly because they went through numerous metas and were consistently the best each time

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with one shortcoming where they were one fight within beating paris in the genji meta

tropic herald
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Mid

earnest leaf
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s4 was for the most part very similar style comps, I do think s4 shd though was the best dive team in OW history

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I just think s3 shock was more well rounded

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Suppose you could also argue s4 shd was never truly given the opportunity to flex around considering there were no balance changes that entire season

tropic herald
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I just think given how dominant they were in the post season

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Hard to argue any other teams

next mesa
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Shock

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Double shield

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And hog meta

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Only

worn falcon
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Goats shock

cunning patrol
frosty patrol
#

unlike anything 2021 shanghai had to deal with

next mesa
#

Ttuba was robbed

worthy drum
limpid grail
#

2021 Shanghai had to deal with Atlanta double shield!

worn falcon
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Cope

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🅱️eijing Valiant incoming

tiny pollen
#

bejing bears

limpid estuary
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Gonna ask here

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Whats happening to allthose Chinese teams in OWL, any news yet?

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Since the game expires in less than a month in that country

jagged crater
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what happened to ttuba?

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i spelled it backwards btw

earnest leaf
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currently it isn't really known what's gonna happen, iirc there was some talk of the league trying to get the chinese teams to fly to korea and compete out of there for the season

peak stag
limpid estuary
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In China

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Yes

peak stag
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Ah, cause the netease shit or whatever it’s called?

karmic charm
limpid grail
#

the Seoul midfernal

trim shadow
#

I believe?

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Remember what they took from you philly fans

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hot onyx
wide ether
#

Torb

cedar oasis
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U.

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Um

wide ether
#

Torb

worthy drum
#

Torb

static pond
sullen berry
#

@hot onyx happy new year from the future

frosty patrol
sullen berry
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i sincerely doubt that, but it's not even close so long as staff remains relatively the same

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and still dependent on zest for kills

frosty patrol
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imo

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(real)

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wait

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I've come to a realization

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we framed yiska as simping too hard for s4 shanghai

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it was volamel

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smh

hot onyx
sullen berry
#

absurdly better

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for the first time I got no open queue games

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and my first win on dps this year via C9

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I'm not sad, just disappointed 2017 and 2023 look so different now

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11 teams and this runner's up called philadelphia fusion don't even look the same anymore

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kinda insane seeing this from the inaugural weekend results

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4 still remaining to win a SINGLE title to their name from season 1

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and four rebrands

hot onyx
#

wait there's four rebrands?

#

Paris Philadelphia Valiant and whom?

sullen berry
#

well technically there's two more not one

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Shock rebrand with grey

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uprising with their obscure 2022 redesign with blue and white, which they have done for a while now

hot onyx
#

Oh yeah I forgot that

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they should bring back the piss coloured B

sullen berry
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from the OG teams who recolored

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while eternal, valiant and infernal are complete rebrands

hot onyx
#

there's actually 5 recolours but yeah

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i actually cannot look at the word "Infernal" without feeling hatred

sullen berry
#

taking the next few months to mourn the loss of these orange and black skins

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uncut drum
willow drum
#

what a waste of credits

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supporting cumcast

sullen berry
sullen berry
#

comcast supporting OWL

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thereby burning all their money trying to come first while also pumping money to keep the league alive for 5 seasons

vagrant jacinth
#

Philly had a nice scheme

vagrant jacinth
#

And florida mcmayhem lives on in our hearts

uncut drum
vagrant jacinth
#

C9 remember about us 🙏

sullen berry
#

first skin was SHD Hanzo JuiceDabsFASTEST

vagrant jacinth
#

I can't remember mine

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Maybe London rein idk

hot onyx
#

i think they will still be available

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since the old Mayhem skins are

willow drum
#

theyre not making it

vagrant jacinth
#

The league is exploding we will rise from the dust

sullen berry
#

i considered it way back then out of pity

naive hornet
#

Howdy all - when is the next OWL stream scheduled for? I honestly don't care about OWL one bit, but I want to get the free OWL tokens from watching lmao

wheat crest
#

Wowwww (But smart)

cedar oasis
#

L

willow drum
naive hornet
#

Oh fml

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If they release Atlanta Mercy before the streams start, please light a little candle in my memory

frosty patrol
willow drum
#

atlantas mercy skins

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never leave the shop

frosty patrol
willow drum
#

that that is a L

naive hornet
#

I'm dumb, I meant Atlantic

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In my defence I don't really care about the difference between an American city and an ocean

willow drum
#

you should

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because if there wasn't an atlantic ocean

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the world would be fucked up

vagrant jacinth
worthy drum
lavish cosmos
#

I want them to bring back the Pro play replay viewer that they had for World Cup for the 2023 one

lavish cosmos
trim shadow
#

Still weird

#

The 0-40 team has a title

#

And neither does new york valiant dynasty or glads

#

All who had fair shots

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New york multiple times at that fact

wintry kraken
trim shadow
#

But i guess it rememdied this year and came home

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ALMOST

wintry kraken
#

i wonder if now we will get two Seoul teams or will Dynasty relocate/sell their right

#

next season is going to be so weird

limpid grail
#

half of the NA teams will be korean

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the ones that aren't will be mixed

#

and the APAC region for the first time in a while
will have better players (lie)

wintry kraken
#

and idea of EU teams will go poof

static pond
icy valve
#

No more EU teams🥲

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Get some teams in EU for goodness sake. Maybe based in Berlin or based in Madrid or Brussel

trim shadow
#

Either full korean

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Half or has 1 or 2

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Kudos to korea

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But no fucking point of there being a NA just move everything to seoul

trim shadow
#

Gen G wont cop out

worn falcon
#

At this point make OWL based in Korea and sign na/eu players

#

And suffer with the games at 3 am

uncut drum
icy valve
#

Happy new year

trim shadow
plush grail
#

Happy new year fuck all of u na dickriders

cunning patrol
#

WElcome to another year where onigod is NOT in overleague !

swift crypt
#

YAY

maiden aurora
#

What teams are the best?

#

And which are the worst?

willow drum
#

It’s off-season right now

#

And no team has a completed roster so we can’t say

#

But I would expect shock reign Houston to be good

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And nyxl Paris to be bad

maiden aurora
#

Sounds like you know your stuff e.e

#

Shock reign looks like they boutta reign supreme.

willow drum
#

nyxl and paris are L organizations

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shock is shock so they'll never be badd

#

reign has mechanically solid players as does houston

trim shadow
trim shadow
north relic
maiden aurora
north relic
maiden aurora
#

Ah that must be the bottom team?

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:x

cunning patrol
#

@buoyant jacinth is this your superior?!?!

buoyant jacinth
#

There is no such thing as my superior imo

twin bloom
#

A 30 year old

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Would be your superrior

limpid grail
#

honestly I don't see any possible way this isn't a reign szn

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like

#

I'm confident overwatch devs will not let a main tank be meta for more than 3 weeks

#

so hawk will be fine

trim shadow
tiny pollen
#

shock szn

#

sad!

worn falcon
#

Happy new Philly szn year

vagrant jacinth
#

People always say reign szn and it doesn't happen

icy valve
#

I hope it is reign szn but I still expect Shock szn with Heesang winning roty, Proper mvp once again and the entire Shock roster as role stars

vagrant jacinth
#

I don't want shock szn again

#

New script please

karmic charm
vagrant jacinth
#

The good ending

cedar oasis
#

I see a future where neither ratlanta or shock win

#

Its 1 in a million tho

#

But I believe in blizzard fucking up the meta enough for it to happen

worthy drum
#

I do think this season has a good amount of title contender teams, everyone is so stacked

sullen berry
#

Like any start of a new season, we have history (and beef If you are striker) to talk about, no point in comparing each other with their competition yet

static pond
#

Wast the situation with striker was because the old gm or something

placid fern
#

wait

#

im confused

#

is seoul dynasty changing?

#

cause then theres 2 in seoul

limpid grail
#

we don't know about dynasty yet but I doubt it

vagrant jacinth
#

Dynasty will still the same

#

Me just realising we can't just say Seoul anymore

hot onyx
worn falcon
vagrant jacinth
#

Seoul and Seoul 2

placid fern
#

has new york ever been well

#

good

#

im new to OWL

vagrant jacinth
#

Seoul (original) and Seoul (spicy)

placid fern
#

i watched most of the matches of the final things

#

i want new york to be good but ik they are uh

vagrant jacinth
#

Yes but that was

#

A long time ago

limpid grail
#

it's been 4000 years

cedar oasis
#

They used to rule the world

#

When there was no soj or brig

#

And hog sucked

#

And no kiriko

north relic
#

They are still good?

uncut drum
#

in the old days

cedar oasis
#

Clearly blizzard cant balance the game

#

Can they just buff fdps

north relic
vagrant jacinth
#

Good

mortal cipher
#

That’s good news

cedar oasis
#

Thank fuck

cloud latch
#

W move

cedar oasis
#

Dallas is a solid 4th place team

humble yarrow
#

Dallas could still be saved

#

Ik they have MCD but Rush can make him crazy

static pond
mortal cipher
#

Figured

hot onyx
willow drum
#

Heesu on shock now

#

Wow

twilit oriole
#

Wwwwww

icy valve
#

Is Heesu really going to shock?

#

No Junbin then?

vagrant jacinth
willow drum
icy valve
#

Yeah I thought so

static pond
willow drum
#

lol

mortal cipher
#

Ok so they still have their DPS

vagrant jacinth
#

Solid

willow drum
#

B tier dps line

#

IMHO

limpid grail
#

okay but

#

sp9rkle in a genji meta??????????!!!!?!!

earnest leaf
#

the one genji meta a year that lasts two weeks you mean

worn falcon
#

Do they keep Hanbin or we get someone like Fury, Belosrea or Hotba?

static pond
#

I don’t think we see a genji meta in a long time

#

I’m leaning towards tracer or reaper

worn falcon
#

Sparkle forced to learn doomtank

static pond
#

I was wondering since Boston lacks a projectile player maybe Whoru would be a good pick up for them?

worn falcon
#

Painbin

mortal cipher
#

Figured

icy valve
#

Solid roster still tho

#

Dallas with Rush, Hanbin, Sp9rk1e and Edison is still good enough

next mesa
#

lost their support line

#

actually tragic

#

all up to hanbin now

north relic
#

still loses to reign

#

sadly

icy valve
#

Well maybe they do get a good support line

north relic
#

they are getting mcd

#

arent they

icy valve
#

Will it be as good as Reign, Shock or Boston? No. But with Rush I believe anything is possible

cedar oasis
#

boston..

icy valve
#

As a Reign fan I am excited to see next season. A lot of teams look really solid

icy valve
cedar oasis
#

cool

#

last season tho

icy valve
#

Well Reign, Shock and Houston do beat that tho

cedar oasis
#

i would never wish for reign fans to die painfully

icy valve
#

Potentially even Toronto beat that if they get the rumored pieces

static pond
next mesa
#

hawk does not inspire me

#

he is white

vagrant jacinth
#

Fuel still keeping good pieces

worthy drum
twin bloom
#

And adding shit ones @vagrant jacinth

hoary swallow
#

Hanbin still HanHIM

worthy drum
strong temple
#

what role is bliss boi

worthy drum
#

MS

sullen berry
#

floie on fire this morning

strong temple
#

i been waitin!!

sullen berry
#

New year new mod skills

worthy drum
#

So I guess McGravy was trolling, still wonder who that lucio player was in the mer1t announcement

worn falcon
#

Hanbin, Sparkle, Edison, MCD and Bliss so far?

sullen berry
#

Could be anamo

worn falcon
#

Anamo better

#

So bliss could be stay on shock

frosty patrol
#

and smurf + a midass dps line

#

is not a great squad

#

this team reminds me of 2020 nyxl almost

#

in that they’ll be above average but not great despite the big names

icy valve
#

Smurf is great tho

frosty patrol
#

yes

icy valve
#

He is the best part of their roster

frosty patrol
#

he is the only championship level player on this roster

vagrant cargo
#

Im

#

Actually

#

Dumb aa hell

#

Wtf

frosty patrol
vagrant cargo
#

Yeah nvm I agree

frosty patrol
#

ntb you fell off in the head

vagrant cargo
#

I'm still kinda zooted

#

I've read it as fearless not smurf

frosty patrol
#

too much to drink or smth?

vagrant cargo
#

Ye

frosty patrol
#

fair

tiny pollen
#

Bird ring overrated

#

Sad!

swift crypt
#

😭

cunning patrol
lost thicket
#

Heesu heesang proper is pretty sick, do you think they'd bench proper or have him. Off role in a ashe sombra meta? Or play proper ashe heesu sombra?

earnest leaf
#

proper is never getting benched in any meta

lost thicket
#

So would be play sombra or ashe in that? Or do like, doom for example

cunning patrol
#

proper ashe heesu sombra is far better than heesang sombra heesu ashe

lost thicket
cunning patrol
#

heesu is a top 3 sombra worldwide

#

and proper ashe is probably at worst low A tier

frosty patrol
#

in ow4 he gets benched in the sombra meta

twin bloom
#

I think proper ashe could be generational

#

As well

earnest leaf
#

Proper 9/10 is going to be better than his dps teammates at most heroes

next mesa
#

Heesang is a goat tho but on hitscans proper clears

#

in ashe tracer meta who Ashe, heesu or proper

#

Or proper tracer heesu ashe

earnest leaf
#

proper tracer always

next mesa
#

I dunno

#

Heesang tracer proper ashe

earnest leaf
#

that works too

next mesa
#

Heesang tracer is gonna be top 3

earnest leaf
#

It would depend on which of the dps is more of the carry in that meta

next mesa
#

If heesang tracer

earnest leaf
#

or if one of those dps potentially has to swap to different heroes

next mesa
#

Heesu ashe I don't know if he's better than proper ashe

#

I say

#

Perhaps

tiny pollen
#

i dont like heesu being on shock

#

its the violet problem

cunning patrol
lost thicket
turbid cargo
#

I don’t like the idea of heesu to shock, of course heesu proper could be really good on situational maps like circuit royal ornin double sniper metas but for the most part I feel like heesu would get benched for proper heesang, and heesu deff deserves to be a starter on a team

tiny pollen
#

^

tiny pollen
earnest leaf
#

I hope viol2t comes back to shock

#

Otherwise they get a chunk worse at the poke comps they were super good at

tiny pollen
#

vindaim has a good zen

#

so dont worry

lost thicket
earnest leaf
#

viol2t is one of the best bapt/zen players, the difference will be noticed

tiny pollen
#

yea i agree

#

but i would feel bad having a player like him be bench half the time

lost thicket
willow drum
#

Heesu wants to win

#

Wouldn’t be surprised if this is his last season

#

Rides the bench a bit for a ring

#

Then retires

lost thicket
#

Heesu would prob be played almost every game not every map

#

Like

earnest leaf
#

heesu is there for double HS or sombra

willow drum
#

Yeah