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[willow drum]

yeah i said this

btw

[plush grail]

to be fair they kinda are

they have birdring and mostly ex-top tiers who kinda fell off

[willow drum]

^

[icy valve]

You say it all

[chilly mauve]

Smurf?

[icy valve]

You are allknowing

[plush grail]

smurf is a excepion

[icy valve]

All seeing

[willow drum]

uncommon luigi W

[hollow bough]

at least they have a chance to be good

[chilly mauve]

Yeah I agree then

[plush grail]

i doubt it with striker decay dps line

[willow drum]

yeah theyll be top 8

[plush grail]

1 bad game and every monitor gets smashed

[icy valve]

Don’t think striker even starts tbh

[willow drum]

1 bad game and striker goes back 2 shock

[hollow bough]

last time it was just a team where one good player was with a bunch of people that xouldnt pull their weight

[willow drum]

💀

[icy valve]

Especially if hitscan is meta

[hollow bough]

I heard striker was reformed but idk

[limpid grail]

mmmmmmm

[hollow bough]

I'm not entirely excited to see him

[icy valve]

Striker reformed😂😂

That’s a funny joke

[chilly mauve]

Striker is bench in case of double flex dps

[plush grail]

not reformed, just has talent but if he loses he goes absolute ape mode but he doesnt lose often

he lost so bad last season he jumped ship to shock

[willow drum]

yeah it seems that

coluge is fine with him

despite coluge not liking him

in the beginning

maybe he just behaved next to the crust

[plush grail]

striker is probably nice to coluge because coluge could squash him like a bug

[icy valve]

Tbh I think even tho all the rosters aren’t even annoyed yet Shock wins if they get the expected pieces

Announced*

[plush grail]

i doubt that with how many top tier players are being scattered around

[static pond]

You been saying that for a like a hr

[willow drum]

i am pretty sure stikers been good

to all the KR players as well

[plush grail]

surely fearless will elevate his outher lesser outlaws teammates

[willow drum]

but again i have no clue

[earnest leaf]

been said that striker was much better this year

[icy valve]

Who do you think are the clear league favorites

[plush grail]

vegas

we have wub

[earnest leaf]

in terms of his mental and working with the team at least

[icy valve]

Isn’t wub gone to😂😂

[plush grail]

toxic

[icy valve]

No offense just asking

[chilly mauve]

Vegas will sign super space danteh

And become a super team

[icy valve]

There is no way Danteh doesn’t get picked up right? He has to find a team

[chilly mauve]

I hope he does but it’s a rough competition

[earnest leaf]

most tank options will be better and similar with dps

[chilly mauve]

Maybe like Vancouver

[earnest leaf]

unless he signs to a team to one trick doom or tracer/sombra

even then it's a stretch

[icy valve]

Still doesn’t mean he can’t play flex dps

Bro Vancouver could also work

[chilly mauve]

danteh is very good on tank but I feel like it’s too niche

Like if u have punk and want to put danteh he’s gonna have to pick up the other main tank heroes like rein

[earnest leaf]

his only stand out tank was doom imo

[chilly mauve]

or Vic versa with sigma

[earnest leaf]

outside of that most other OTs/MTs are beating him at every other hero

[chilly mauve]

His orisa looked really good

and junkerqueen was solid

Not best but good

[earnest leaf]

orisa was played for a round on a couple maps at most

hard to look bad on orisa with pelican/mer1t deadlifting

[chilly mauve]

It still looked better than most other tanks

didn’t outlaws take control using orisa against shock?

[earnest leaf]

Put 99% of actual tank players in that situation they look the same if not better

[chilly mauve]

The team with proper?

[willow drum]

didnt they get

3-0ed

?

[chilly mauve]

Not that match

[willow drum]

the 2nd one

[earnest leaf]

shock stopped trolling and rolled outlaws after they dropped the crackpipe comps and fully mirrored

[willow drum]

is the only that mattered

because it was consistent

wwith the way shock were playing throught playofs

[chilly mauve]

Also they didn’t play orisa on control that match

[willow drum]

no i dont think so

[chilly mauve]

They played wonton meta

but we are talking abt dantehs orisa

[earnest leaf]

I do not care about a person's hero when they have only played it for a very short period of time

[chilly mauve]

there was only 5 tanks played frequently throughout the season

[static pond]

Tbf dante picked up tanks out the blue

He going against people with years of experience

[earnest leaf]

Surround someone with strong enough players and they will look respectable on most tanks in most situations

[worn falcon]

Sadly that didn't worked for Shanghai

Worked for Houston and Atlanta

Maybe London

[static pond]

Shush

I loved dragons

[civic matrix]

Boston ain’t looking bad rn

[worn falcon]

Dragons having top tier players and dropped so hard for not knowing what to do

[static pond]

Yes

Everyone knows that

[worn falcon]

Boston gonna pull a Toronto and become a 4th-5th team

[static pond]

It hurts seeing dragons now lol

[civic matrix]

Houston stacked so far

[worn falcon]

Lol no

Fearless is very dependant

[static pond]

We need to see there other tank

[worn falcon]

If they get some top support/dps

But as for now

[static pond]

And fdps

[civic matrix]

Yeah he is

[icy valve]

Houston looks very good yeah

[civic matrix]

If monkey in comp they’ll be fine I bet need good support

Mostly

[worn falcon]

He was very dependant on Hanbin in ow1, he struggled in ow2

If Houston doesn't get a good backline he gets fucked hard

Mfw they should've kept Danteh for doom/jq stuff

[civic matrix]

Yeah

[icy valve]

Well they got Shu and Skewed according to rumours

[civic matrix]

I hope all of dallas doesn’t crumble we lost one tank fs and both supports

[icy valve]

And according to some other news they were looking at Bliss?

[civic matrix]

I hope dallas gets yaki underrated

[icy valve]

That should be a good enough backline for Houston

Yeah Dallas Yaki could be good

[chilly mauve]

Where?

[icy valve]

Idk man. Couldn’t find it anymore when I brought it up

Point is that if Vindaim to Shock is likely according to leakmafia then the Bliss rumour could be right to

Well now that I think about it the rumour that from where I heard might have actually been leakmafia

[chilly mauve]

Have we heard anything bout chorong?

I feel like we have but I can’t remember

If not then he could go to outlaws maybe

[icy valve]

Yeah maybe Ch0rong or Bliss got picked up to Outlaws

Well the rumour of Ch0rong to reign turned out to be fake

And with Vindaim most likely joining Shock Ch0rong is still on the market

[chilly mauve]

That’s the only 2 Korean Ms I can think of right now

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/atlreign/status/1606424430946574336?s=46&t=kokhdJRPhAm5do-3GAeg7w

Atlanta Reign (@ATLReign)

Time flies when you’re anticipating something great... After counting down the days, we are now excited to welcome @fielder_ow to Atlanta Reign ❤️

#ReignSupreme

Twitter · Dec 23, 2022, 11:00 PM

[chilly mauve]

It happened

Misery…

[icy valve]

THERE IT IS

I mean you signed Shu and Fearless in one night

You shouldn’t complain aswell😂😂

[chilly mauve]

true

[uncut drum]

dont they have a ms and fs

now

[chilly mauve]

Who Atlanta?

[icy valve]

Who? Reign?

[uncut drum]

yes

[icy valve]

Reign has vigilante and Fielder now but you can add Chiyo to that list

[chilly mauve]

That was not planned

[uncut drum]

or am i stupid

[chilly mauve]

Chiyo is rumored with fielder

And fielder just got announced

So most likely chiyo too

[icy valve]

Well both Chiyo and fielder got leaked by Yiska to join Reign

So not most likely. Yiska is very reliable so if he says they signed both they aren’t rumoured. They are signed

[balmy wolf]

these rosters r looking so cool so far

reign boston nd outlaws

[chilly mauve]

Shock?

[balmy wolf]

we dont know anything abt them no?

[chilly mauve]

I mean they didn’t have much change

[balmy wolf]

or like

we know whos prob joining but

those were kinda expected

[hot onyx]

please no

[trim shadow]

Atlanta casually selling its soul

Gonna collect dallas fuel

Rebrand to atlanta mystic

Go 15-15

Lose to Toronto

Rebuild team

Repeat

[merry tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/spark-bang-bang-hangzhou-spark-hzs-owl-gif-16562379

my fav team is Hangzhou Spark cause they have trans pride colors 🏳️‍⚧️

[chilly mauve]

Ik happy is good

But I’d much rather see heesu on the outlaws ngl

[hot onyx]

https://twitter.com/pariseternal/status/1591494786317520900?s=46&t=RvhNLjOvq8ckgRTRuFdmlg

Vegas Eternal (@VegasEternal)

We thank @wubxii for all of his contributions to Eternal this year.

His Hanzo feared by many, wub is an incredible, mechanically gifted player who put in a lot of effort to turn the team around. Wherever his future leads, he will do great things 💙❤

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Twitter · Nov 12, 2022, 6:15 PM

wub a wub a dove dove...

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-rick-sad-sitting-lonely-gif-25485281

[trim shadow]

Leaves europe

Release NA roster

Fills it with half EU

[thorny aspen]

overwt

[worn falcon]

Fielder Lip

What the fuck G8r

Keep your crypto safe

[hot onyx]

Gator stopped investing in crypto and started using cash in a manner that is not wasteful

[worn falcon]

Although Atlanta is fucked by having a mid tank

[dark hedge]

Why is dallas just imploding lmao

[fast tusk]

yo

what the fuck is boston cooking over there

[worn falcon]

Mid team boston

[hot onyx]

cooked up a top tank and support line only to forget a decent fdps and coaching

can’t wait to see Sup7eme make Smurf mid

[languid harness]

L take

[willow drum]

liking a team for their colors

is fine

is it not

[languid harness]

No

🦧

[willow drum]

ok

[merry tendon]

Shy is best sojourn anyways besides the swag colors 🏳️‍⚧️

[willow drum]

do not tell him about lip

[worn falcon]

That's my thought, i expected some good coach not fucking sup7eme

[cloud latch]

you underestimate the power of supreme

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/ATLReign/status/1606469747792543745

Atlanta Reign (@ATLReign)

Excitement levels are off the charts 📈 as we reveal the final member of our 2023 roster. Welcome aboard, @chiyo_ow1. There's no stopping us now!

#ReignSupreme

Twitter · Dec 24, 2022, 2:00 AM

[mortal cipher]

Dang

But we saw it coming

[worn falcon]

LMAO

[sullen berry]

Nyoom #esports-news @strong temple 👍

[worn falcon]

Fielder and chiyo

[strong temple]

👀

[sullen berry]

What's the duo name

[worn falcon]

Fuckin g8r

[sullen berry]

Chielder

Fieldyo

[strong temple]

hello

[worn falcon]

Hello

[sullen berry]

there

[worn falcon]

General Kenobi

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-general-kenobi-star-wars-grevious-gif-17774326

[willow drum]

Note how it says final member

That means you’re relying on hawk solo tank

[sullen berry]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-holy-shit-shock-omg-what-gif-11683607

Stalk3r, Lip, Hawk, vigilante, chiyo, fielder

[uncut drum]

Stacked on paper

[sullen berry]

Now that's a rateable team while everyone else is still kinda short on a full roster atm

[uncut drum]

Still would prefer another tank

[sullen berry]

I also like that atlanta are not messing around

Why have a 2nd tank now if it will give away their already glaring weakness of no substitute tank?

Also where does babel fit in OWL

[limpid grail]

mmmmm

not sure actually

really high skill cap but idk who'd pick him up

[sullen berry]

Proably the team that got outbid for teru, Fielder and finn on their list of top prospects

[worn falcon]

What is the current Atl roster?

Hawk, lip, chiyo, fielder

[willow drum]

@worn falcon here

[worn falcon]

I'm forgetting something

Mid team then

[trim shadow]

Atlanta mystic

[worn falcon]

Lip gotta break his back again

[trim shadow]

Lip chiyo fielder

Smurf and fearless are out so

Hanbin?

Hawk hanbin?

[worn falcon]

Hadi

[trim shadow]

No makes no sense

Need a MT

But i dont know what MT

[worn falcon]

G8r as head coach/player

[chilly mauve]

Atlanta should sign an actual tank player

Cough cough danteh

if they want to win cuz it’s looking effy rn

[north relic]

what is this hawk slander

[earnest leaf]

hawk fine for solo tank I think

would just maybe prefer a monkey otp to join

or monkey/rein player

[burnt anchor]

Hawk is a great example of a good tank player but nothing more

[earnest leaf]

But solo tank for him should go well, he has an insane supporting cast

Gonna be hard to get diffed on MTs if you have fielder/chiyo/lip backing you up

[burnt anchor]

True

I'm excited for Boston, maybe they can finally get something going again. Weird Striker went back tho

[burnt anchor]

No

[deft wolf]

striker just alternates hes that guy

atalanta looks fucking stacked

but

that tank line

you need a mt

or at least like another tank like fury beloserea etc

[edgy tapir]

hey guys

[turbid cargo]

Na, Smurf is good at everything I swear

[deft wolf]

i meant atl

smurf is great

[turbid cargo]

Ohh

Wait

Sorry

Yea

[deft wolf]

he proved that in seoul

[turbid cargo]

Hawk

Needs

[deft wolf]

its alr

[turbid cargo]

Some

[deft wolf]

yes

[turbid cargo]

Hawk is good at or, but I agree

Main tank needed

I feel like we all prob know who Shock are gonna sign, vindaim, then their o2 players, Heesang, Max, Junbin,
Proper Heesang Dps duo sounds really good

[willow drum]

Hawk is solo tanking

The whole year

Read their chiyo post

Last member of 2023

[cloud latch]

g8r should of went for someone

[glossy drum]

If anyone is interested in joining an Overwatch league on console please message me!! If you rank in bronze,silver and gold and your NA plzzzzz

[karmic charm]

ExO vs Peps GP/MP/MD 2022
ExO 29-0 / 89-8 / + 81 (won contenders twice)
Peps 22-8 / 45-33 / + 12 (came second twice)

peps getting picked up over ExO is mad

[plush grail]

Atlanta legit just said fuck it

[plush grail]

Peps is not being picked up

Getamazed confirmed he's doing open scrims

Ofc team peps is allowed to try out but they still have to prove themselves

[hot onyx]

nepotism will win in the end

[earnest leaf]

could be team peps is first option but if a clear outlier appears in tryouts they'd probably get picked up

[slate siren]

No more APAC anymore?

Because of the blizzard and china thing

[plush grail]

getamazed probably just wants to use this chance to get rid of the weak points of team peps

[hot onyx]

the whole team are weak points

[trim shadow]

Yes

For now at leaat

But i doubt blizzard will get a deal done

[uncut drum]

If they don't we might get a one region season

[lost thicket]

pelican is A or S tier?

dps line of houston needs prob

a hitscan who can play tracer and a flexible dps that can play tracer, supportline lastro would be good kekw, but prob a main support that can switch between aggro n defense,

fearless is a mechanical freak so I trust him

[trim shadow]

Tbh it’s where the leauge needs togo

Have everyone in 1 region

[icy valve]

Pelican has a great tracer? What Houston needs is a hitscan my guy

[slate siren]

Oh no

[lost thicket]

pelicans tracer is good, you want more then good

hitscan and another flex dps that can play a really good tracer are what you need rn

[full lichen]

Houston pick up Venom probably

[willow drum]

venoms tracer isnt thgat much

of an upgrade over pelicans

imma be fr

[icy valve]

Bruv Pelican has a tracer better then good😂😂

They honestly should get a hitscan

[vagrant cargo]

Boston roster still feels like a fever dream

[static pond]

Pelican tracer Is just good

Hope everyone has a good Christmas Eve and merry Christmas everyone

[icy valve]

Doha leaving Dallas to

They are crumbling

[chilly mauve]

Bro pelican is nasty at tracer

it may not be his best hero but he still is nasty at it

[icy valve]

Yeah idk why people say Pelican isn’t nasty at tracer

[chilly mauve]

they only concern I see is a double flex meta

happy isn’t the best flex so they should prob sign a backup

[icy valve]

Well Houston is yet to announce all his pieces

Doha is prob gonna be announced to a new team later

[chilly mauve]

Yeah and tbh with dohas release

yeah exactly

Doha is a really good backup flex dps to pair with someone like pelican

I could very well see Doha going to Houston

[uncut drum]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DallasFuel/status/1606696210861105152

Dallas Fuel (@DallasFuel)

fuel's been home for him the last 3 years, but now we'll support his quest to his next home.
to @doha_ow, thank you for being a pillar for us through thick and thin with fond memories. we wish nothing but the best in your future endeavors.

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Twitter · Dec 24, 2022, 5:00 PM

[chilly mauve]

Doha pelican happy is a good dps line

[icy valve]

True

[chilly mauve]

I’m still confused what offtank Houston should sign

If shock doesn’t get junbin then maybe?

[icy valve]

Hanbin

[twin bloom]

His tracer got fucked by venom in mm and may have been the only reason atl beat them

In the doomfist double fs mirror

[icy valve]

Well tbf Venom is a very good tracer

Seriously underapreciated imo

[twin bloom]

Pelican tracer isnt what you should be striving for

If you want to win

A championship

[twin bloom]

Hawk is just better than danteh

On every hero

Both are irrelevant on monkey

[icy valve]

Well I am a big fan of Hawk but let’s think about it tho. Danteh played very solid last season

[buoyant jacinth]

danteh clears

[icy valve]

Wouldn’t say he clears

Around the same level imo and this is coming from a Reign fan

[buoyant jacinth]

i would

[chilly mauve]

I second this

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

Danteh learned monke in 5 days lol

[twin bloom]

No he didn't lol

If you put hawk on outlaws

They do the same

That meta

[mortal cipher]

Or played him in 5 days

[twin bloom]

Outlaws just learned how to play the meta

In 5 days

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[twin bloom]

Yes hawk is still a better tank

Lol

[mortal cipher]

Hmm

[chilly mauve]

Tbh is danteh was on reign last season

They would have prob made top 3

But they didn’t

[twin bloom]

I highly doubt it LOL

Danteh monkey was not gonna save that ATL team in that meta

[buoyant jacinth]

it would

[twin bloom]

Shut up

[buoyant jacinth]

mikeyy would too 💯

[twin bloom]

Agree

Good take

[cunning patrol]

Mikeyy was the best player on sfshock in their playoff run

[twin bloom]

Ok

[wicked pendant]

What the fuck I thought Boston Uprising gave up forever

The hell is this new team

[vagrant jacinth]

https://twitter.com/OWLOpinions/status/1606682973499461637?t=a3BWEHEPrtQlZVJVSoyPww&s=19

OWLOpinions (@OWLOpinions)

ATL has said that ChiYo is their final signing for 2023 which is scary to me because having Hawk as the solo tank just didn't work last year, especially whenever he had to play main tanks. Hoping Gator can manage to get a proper main tank player, if so, they're the #1 team

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Twitter · Dec 24, 2022, 4:07 PM

Thoughts?

[drowsy niche]

when, cuz i miss few tokens to buy the goat pack and theres no way im buying em

[tiny pollen]

real take

[chilly mauve]

Hawk hasn’t played on a Korean roster with lip chiyo fielder stalker who haven’t played on a english roster

this ain’t gonna work out unless a miracle happens

[uncut drum]

They should have tried to get a Korean tank

If they got smurf they would have been set

[cloud latch]

or someone

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/dallasfuel/status/1606711303753572353?s=46&t=FaXWnleH64xfw9MpRjaMyQ

Dallas Fuel (@DallasFuel)

this hitscan rookie always showed up, showed out, and did it with a smile on his face every time.
we want to thank @guriyo_ow for all of his drive, passion, fun personality, and contagious smile he's given us. we wish you the best in your future endeavors.

Twitter · Dec 24, 2022, 6:00 PM

https://twitter.com/outlaws/status/1606711463883718657?s=46&t=FaXWnleH64xfw9MpRjaMyQ

Houston Outlaws (@Outlaws)

We're incredibly glad to be announcing the return of a familiar face...

Please welcome back @owhappy2!
Pending League Approval

@HEB

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Twitter · Dec 24, 2022, 6:00 PM

[worn falcon]

So many returners

[static pond]

Waiting on nyxl roster

[chilly mauve]

HAPPY IS BACK

I am happy

[worn falcon]

Waiting on Philly roster

Definitely they don't fuck up

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/imavrl/status/1606712212923772928?s=46&t=FaXWnleH64xfw9MpRjaMyQ

AVRL (@imAVRL)

I've decided to leak the rest of Vancouver's 2023 roster

Twitter · Dec 24, 2022, 6:03 PM

Lmao

[trim shadow]

[static pond]

This would be very interesting

https://twitter.com/dallasfuel/status/1606696210861105152?s=46&t=FaXWnleH64xfw9MpRjaMyQ

Dallas Fuel (@DallasFuel)

fuel's been home for him the last 3 years, but now we'll support his quest to his next home.
to @doha_ow, thank you for being a pillar for us through thick and thin with fond memories. we wish nothing but the best in your future endeavors.

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Twitter · Dec 24, 2022, 5:00 PM

Wonder where Doha going to

[mortal cipher]

Good question

[static pond]

Dallas really just blew up there roster

Championship team

[hot onyx]

some folks are speculating Fusion

which would make sense for him to fill for MN3’s middling sombra

[willow drum]

junbins not OT

[static pond]

Max a ot

[willow drum]

max isnt going

to that bum team

[willow drum]

40 mins until we see

hanbin

go

[static pond]

Kinda what Doha to a different team he be bench unless sombra is meta but I would like to see him get play time outside of sombra

[willow drum]

double

flex

[static pond]

That leaves um edison then

[willow drum]

yes

and sparkke

but sparkles in the

fuel v shock thing

[static pond]

Ah then looks like sparkle staying

[willow drum]

or could be theyre playing with old rostah

new roster gets swept

imma be fr

[static pond]

New roster

And agreed

[twin bloom]

Korean millitary

Fr

[static pond]

Waiting for there rosters to get leaked

Honestly atl team imo can easily fall apart because hawk

Like that the piece that scares me

[mortal cipher]

Yeah

[static pond]

Like they can be top 4 but can easily fall because hawk

[willow drum]

theyll never

drop

the top 4

[static pond]

Ngl I was pretty surprised shock didt go for lip

[willow drum]

im not surprised

why would you go for lip

you already have proper heesang

[static pond]

Hs?

[willow drum]

hs is irrelevant

besides sojourn

now

[static pond]

Heesang plays hs?

[willow drum]

and propers sojourn is elite

[willow drum]

no proper does

proper gapped happy on widow

[tiny pollen]

sojourn isnt good anymore

[willow drum]

and has an elite sojourn

[static pond]

What if it double hs meta

[willow drum]

💀

[tiny pollen]

?

[willow drum]

do not tell him about the leaderboard.

[static pond]

Soj is broken

[cloud latch]

so true bestie!

[tiny pollen]

shes not lmao

[willow drum]

ok if u say so

maybe at ur rank

[vagrant cargo]

Hawk is so overhated

[willow drum]

she isnt broken

[tiny pollen]

lol

[willow drum]

theyre defo signing a third

hs player

[tiny pollen]

what does sojourn do?

[willow drum]

kill shit

[tiny pollen]

she just dies now

[vagrant cargo]

Without him the Atlanta roster wouldn't be the way it is now lol

[tiny pollen]

no one shot

[willow drum]

LMAO

[tiny pollen]

no cc

[willow drum]

LAO

LMAOOOO

[tiny pollen]

?

[willow drum]

carrot what rank

do u play at

[tiny pollen]

masters+

[static pond]

I don’t hate hawk just scared of that lack of mt

[vagrant cargo]

Carrot ur a funny fella I won't lie

[tiny pollen]

explain what she does now

[willow drum]

masters is dumber than i thought

[tiny pollen]

she just dies now

[vagrant cargo]

He's solid enough tbh

[tiny pollen]

no cc on e

is massive

[willow drum]

the top 10 asia dps

[tiny pollen]

like

[willow drum]

all have sojourn tracer

as top 2 most played

do you think you are smarter than the top 10 asia dps

?

[tiny pollen]

what does she do

explain

?

[willow drum]

kill shit

[tiny pollen]

she doesnt

[willow drum]

195 is basically ohko at that level

[tiny pollen]

echo is better

[static pond]

Lip pretty much ruin korean rank with soj

[willow drum]

yeah because your not good

at the game

[tiny pollen]

ur not good either lmao

echo is just better now

[willow drum]

yeah i never said i was

[vagrant cargo]

Ur getting hard baited

[willow drum]

but the best players in the game

believe it

[tiny pollen]

cause thats all theyve played for like 5 months now

ofc theyll keep playing it

[cloud latch]

💀

[willow drum]

💀

[tiny pollen]

echo tracer is just the best dps line now

[hot onyx]

the shock fans are brawling

what a sight

[vagrant cargo]

I'm the alpha shock fan

[tiny pollen]

i think yall have a very rudimentary view of the game

[willow drum]

i think you dont view the game at all

[hot onyx]

bandwagoning after bandwagoning was cool

[willow drum]

when every asia ladder game

[vagrant cargo]

Yes ur just smarter than the contenders korea pros fr

[hot onyx]

that’s quite alpha

[tiny pollen]

cause thats all theyve played for 5 months

[willow drum]

has sojourn

[willow drum]

and its still working

😭

[vagrant cargo]

It is im always on the winner side

[tiny pollen]

yea cause ppl prob arent playing echo

[static pond]

Since o2 pretty much getting picked up

[vagrant cargo]

Then why would ppl not force junkerqueen in stage 4

[static pond]

Wonder who o2 will get to replace heesang and such

[balmy wolf]

Atlanta forever

[vagrant cargo]

Junkerqueen was the meta we saw most teams excel

[willow drum]

heiser and proud

will cary o2

trust

[tiny pollen]

casue she was ultra shit

[vagrant cargo]

Because they could focus on one comp

So is sojourn by ur logic

Thwsw players have other heros in their pool

[hot onyx]

join Fusion we will not cock block Clestyn for the third year in a row

[tiny pollen]

there is a difference between bad and ultra shit

[vagrant cargo]

Fuck no

[vagrant cargo]

Ur fr funny as hell

[tiny pollen]

like yall dont understand how easily she dies now

[earnest leaf]

who sojourn?

[tiny pollen]

yea

[earnest leaf]

She's still pretty good

throw on a mercy pocket and she's back to best dps

[cunning patrol]

Sojourn not so good… I think Ashe better tbh…

[static pond]

Since heesang pretty much going to shock

That leaves topdragon and spectra?

[cloud latch]

I see a lot of sym I think she cool she has instant mobility

prob best hs maybe?

[cunning patrol]

I think so too…

[cloud latch]

topdragon goated username

[twin bloom]

Junkrat is the best dps

In ow

[vagrant cargo]

Ahahahehahaha

[cloud latch]

so true so good vert mobility

unlike tracer

[vagrant cargo]

Both linked with teams

[static pond]

Ah

What teams?

[north relic]

he is speaking the truth

[static pond]

The only thing I heard was specta to dragons

[tropic herald]

wonder where hanbin is going

[cloud latch]

same

[hot onyx]

:(

[static pond]

But that was before the whole ow in china thing

[vagrant cargo]

Spectra was rumored to Houston a while ago

[north relic]

what is this

[cloud latch]

new hero leak

[vagrant cargo]

Topdragon rumored to mayhem but I don't think it's true

[static pond]

With the way apac is going

I think it could be true

It seems like a lot of players probably think it better to play in na now

[hot onyx]

which team is picking up Kyo

[cedar oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-gif-25818512

[hot onyx]

did you enjoy the mushroom picking?

[hoary swallow]

mfw when dallas only has sparkle edison and hanbin left💀 there definitely gone too

[devout hearth]

I came into this chat just to say Boston Uprising has a stacked team

No way they dont win this year

But, I dont pay much attention to the League, so who knows

[vagrant cargo]

They are a downgraded seoul

Let's not get ahead of ourselves lol

Striker decay ain't that great outside a few heros

Birdring might not be top tier no more

[balmy wolf]

mid team tbh

[vagrant cargo]

And leejaegon izayaki isn't a top 3 backline

Arguably not even top 5 actually

1.finn vindaim viol2t
2.fielder vigilante chiyo
3.shu skewed insert mainsup

Gotta see how the rest pans out but yeah

[devout hearth]

Well, I dont know much about the league besides just seeing some few popular names. So I just assumed it was a stacked team lol

[balmy wolf]

its alright tbh

but nthg too crazy

[next mesa]

who's going to be their flex dps

im concerned about that

i suppose decay striker and birdring can all play some degree of flex dps but..

[balmy wolf]

striker

[next mesa]

eh

[worn falcon]

Birdring

[limpid grail]

it's birdring most likely

if he ain't gone cold

they're top 5

actually wait i'm capping

wouldn't it just be decay

birdring HS striker Tracer

[static pond]

Birding will probably be hs

But he can play tracer sombra

Decay will probably be a starter

Since birding and decay have history

[tiny pollen]

idk why striker is there

[static pond]

Striker reaper

That it lol

I don’t know anything else I feel like decay or birdring would be better at

[tiny pollen]

maybe hanzo lol

[static pond]

Was thinking that to lmao

But birdring also has history with hanzo I think

[buoyant jacinth]

Tracer hanzo reaper

Striker is better than birdring and decay on those heroes lol

[static pond]

We haven’t see his tracer in like 2 years lol

[tiny pollen]

wat

[rotund sentinel]

Outlaws stacked rn

[twin bloom]

Striker is not better than birdring on hazno

If you are reffering to 2021 birdring

[cunning patrol]

Decay is clear on tracer

Lol

[static pond]

https://twitter.com/outlaws/status/1606756826221056002?s=46&t=FaXWnleH64xfw9MpRjaMyQ

Houston Outlaws (@Outlaws)

Please don't tell my boss I leaked this but...

Welcome @ow_neko as our Head Coach and @JunkBuckOW as Director of Competition!

@HEB

▶ Play video

Twitter · Dec 24, 2022, 9:00 PM

[willow drum]

what?

[cunning patrol]

What

[buoyant jacinth]

What

[worn falcon]

Director of competition

They fucked

[plush bridge]

its all good junk is still no 1

[tiny pollen]

lol houston is fucked

worse coaching than last year

[plush bridge]

nope

[tiny pollen]

and having some of sparks coaching

without having the changoon effect

[plush bridge]

junk is still the number 1 coach

[worthy drum]

wait who is neko, he is bad news? Can the team of fearless, Happy, Shu and Pelican not be safe from him?

[tiny pollen]

he coached spark last year

[worn falcon]

Midpark

[chilly mauve]

shadow confirmed that junk will still be top dog of coaching

so all good

[trim shadow]

The fuck is director of competition

Also neko

NEKO

The hate for Houston taste wonderful

[tawdry hamlet]

Sheesh i missed the part where Robert Kraft decided to dump money into his owl team

[hoary swallow]

patriots weren’t winning so he said fuck it

overwatch league championship instead

[trim shadow]

Patriots aint winning so

[hot onyx]

Neko isn’t as big of a throw as Gator or Sup7eme

[static pond]

This is also true imo

[frosty patrol]

well good thing sup7eme isn’t coaching

but also he was a coty dark horse on the ecopoint podcast

how could he be bad

[hot onyx]

Gladiators were a dark horse for playoff contention in 2020 against Shock Fusion Paris Mayhem and Valiant

and the unknown Justice run

dark horse is a participation prize

[sullen berry]

sounds like CEO of Gaming but apparently not that big enough

also merry xmas from this side of the world

[trim shadow]

But gators team created the most toxic meta ever so

[sullen berry]

I'm out for the rest of the day, be nice to the mods who have to publish #esports-news on xmas

[trim shadow]

I have a coin in gators ability

[trim shadow]

Right time zones

[hot onyx]

have fun

[trim shadow]

Merry xmas to and the continued suffering of paris/vegas

[hot onyx]

(this is a threat)

[frosty patrol]

if I got esports announcement coordinator back I’d do it

#fuckthemods

[sullen berry]

you can't threaten me to have a good time, if I'm already having one

[frosty patrol]

sans and I will jump you in the event you stop having fun

[sullen berry]

I've actually been discussion about the Las Vegas Eternal situation

[trim shadow]

Yea they are going half eu

Or korean

[sullen berry]

at least in terms of discord ownership, I put my name in consideration if they need a moderator in OCE

[hot onyx]

good

[hot onyx]

that is true, interregional jumping

[molten portal]

surely theres a better coach than neko

[willow drum]

Merry Christmas

[north relic]

Merry Christmas

[static pond]

Merry Christmas everyone

[chilly mauve]

merry christmas

[worn falcon]

https://i.redd.it/uh99rwvgyy7a1.jpg

Decay

Also merry Christmas

[hoary swallow]

bro is the only one without a chip

[sullen berry]

Hey guys i want to wish you all a happy Holidays. Discord is full of copypasted holiday messages, that people don't even read and just forward to other servers. I don't like that. I like to write what i deeply wish and what comes from my heart.

Our friendships, from the most deep ones to the most virtual ones are very important and will never be represented by a simple message copied from elsewhere. This being said I would like to thank all of you. You are the best Houston Outlaws Discord server I've ever talked with. Lots of love.

[tawdry hamlet]

[fallow gate]

Hmm

[cursive cypress]

They will add more skins or tokens drop this week ?

[vagrant jacinth]

Merry chrimbas

[narrow yew]

Hey, where can i install the overwatch league replay viewer?

[sullen berry]

It's not public anymore

[sullen berry]

Marry Christians

[swift crypt]

Merry Christmas everyone

[verbal stag]

What does T1 T2 T3 teams mean ? respectively ?

[karmic charm]

t1 is owl

t2 contenders

t3 open div iirc

[cursive cypress]

Guys dva skin twitch drop is out ?

[trim shadow]

All this not to win a title

[willow drum]

They won’t win a title

Not with reign and shock

[icy valve]

Merry Christmas everyone

[hot onyx]

depends on the meta

as long as fdps isn’t meta and they can run double hs/hs tracer or tracer sombra they have a chance

[willow drum]

They don’t

[chilly mauve]

They won’t win either

[willow drum]

Be quiet

Houston’s MT is kellan

Y’all ain’t winning shit

[chilly mauve]

2020: Shanghai finished 3rd -> 2021: Shanghai Wins

2021: Dallas finish 3rd -> 2022: Dallas wins

[willow drum]

What about 2019

Or 2018

[chilly mauve]

No it starts at 2020

[willow drum]

Lol that’s not a trend

[chilly mauve]

The rule applies only after a leap year

[willow drum]

It’s 2 out of 4

[karmic charm]

ya but 2018 didnt have a 3rd place and 2019 was nyxl

who obvs would never win anything

[willow drum]

Okay

[hot onyx]

don’t doubt the bird

doubt the coaching staff for picking up the national liability instead of a fdps but not the bird

[cunning patrol]

Doubt the bird

Why do people still keep stanning players who took a break

Lol

The only decent outcome was Patiphan who was in the perfect situation

And even then he was awful for a good amount of time

[buoyant jacinth]

real

didnt leave take a break

no wonder he's such a fraud

[static pond]

I think birdring will still be good not as good as proper or lip tho

He still played ow to a extent during his break

[buoyant jacinth]

not as good as half the league either 🤣

[cunning patrol]

Yeah and he came back like mid s2

His mvp season was s4 you guys do the maths 😂😂💯💯

[buoyant jacinth]

fake mvp

[cunning patrol]

Rigged in my eyes

[old salmon]

howd i get kiriko owl skin but not sojourn

💀

[willow drum]

They said sojourn was January

[old salmon]

ah ok

[tiny pollen]

happy holidays esports discussion

[trim shadow]

Trust me i can see the future

[hot onyx]

who gonna tell 'im

[willow drum]

Trust

Fearless isn’t staying

[plush grail]

this pic goes hard

[worn falcon]

Inb4 Dallas just build around sparple

Which is sad

Hastro just needed to get the cup to convince investors

[tiny pollen]

It goes incredibly hard

[sour bison]

Why all the esports announcements asians?

[next mesa]

Because asians are better at overwatch

[trim shadow]

Cause ow esports is majority korean

Asian are also mostly better then us at games

[twin bloom]

All the good white people decided to go to the same team

[hot onyx]

Kevster FunnyAstro >> Speedily Ojee

statistically

[twin bloom]

Majority of the good white people

Decided to go to the same team

[hot onyx]

Defiant don't have Aspire

[twin bloom]

He is part of the minority

Not on defiant

Sadly

[stone dune]

anyone get their contenders hanzo and cassidy skins yet

still havent got mine yet

[twin bloom]

Aspire nero hawk space fastro kevin mikeyy k1ng Kai all not on the defiant goats

SADLY

[hot onyx]

i got my contenders heavy and pryo skins couple of days ago

[stone dune]

bet you dont have the medic and engineer contenders skins

[hot onyx]

you forgot icy

[twin bloom]

Disagree

Did forget false tho

Maybe some of the paris

Rejects

As well

[hot onyx]

and Hybrid

[twin bloom]

Disagree

[hot onyx]

that is the difference between you and i

[next mesa]

Let's see if AT is top 5 easily

Hahaha

[twin bloom]

Lets see if Boston wins more than 10 games 😭

[next mesa]

I have little confidence in boston

With that DPS line

Decay birdring is mid

[twin bloom]

And that backline

Imo

[next mesa]

Striker off tracer is not that good

That backline should be

Solid still imo

Depends

[twin bloom]

Middlingy Mid

Imo

[next mesa]

Their off season progression

[twin bloom]

In the NA region i expect AT to be better than almost every team excepts shock houston

Glads depends

Imo

They lost shuseph

And reiner which is a very big loss

Lost out on both fearless and smurf to replace reiner

And got lastro to replace shu

[worn falcon]

Casores flexing AT and being top 5

[cunning patrol]

Disagree

[buoyant jacinth]

Disagree

[chilly mauve]

The dps line is okay

Not the best

But still it provides enough to get championships out of it

Dallas was also in a similar spot

[twin bloom]

You dont

[hot onyx]

according to r/owl discord Lastro is a top 10 support

so he must be a good replacement

[north relic]

Reign szn

[chilly mauve]

I mean who would u put over lastro realistically

shu

Fielder

Um

Finn?

Maybe twilight?

Vigilante (idk much abt him)

[willow drum]

shu fielder fin twilight vigilante ir1s

[cunning patrol]

brodie stop typin

[willow drum]

theres more

people as well

[cunning patrol]

i would put all of the league over him 💯

[hot onyx]

"maybe" twilight 💀

Shu Fielder FiNN Vigilante Twilight Iris Creative Izayaki UltraViolet MMonk Farway1987 Viol2t and Skewed were all better flex supports

[full lichen]

Jjonak season 1 and 2

[hot onyx]

CH0R0NG ChiYo Vindaim FunnyAstro LeeJaeGon Xerneas Ojee Faith Lengsa were all better main supports

[full lichen]

With Glads picking up Lastro, I'm starting to believe the Majed rumours

[north relic]

some of these

better fs tbh

asstro

[twin bloom]

How is skewed better

That is a bad take

Imo

Also lastro has very good mechanics

I think he could do okay on the Glads

Potentially

And despite never witnessing their play

[cunning patrol]

😆

that is me

[twin bloom]

I am inclined to put lastro over monk and faraway

Imo

[cunning patrol]

lol

[twin bloom]

Ok

[twin bloom]

Disagree

[cunning patrol]

lol

mmonk is better on every character same with faraway9/11

[twin bloom]

Lastro is a big zen

And solid ana

[cunning patrol]

mmonk is bigger

[twin bloom]

Ok

Lastro is one of the most honest

Players

[cunning patrol]

hes awful

[twin bloom]

That gets flamed by analysts

[cunning patrol]

should play valorant

instead

[twin bloom]

Its sad

Really

[cunning patrol]

good

[twin bloom]

Lastro is just gonna be the mid kr player

I am gonna hard defend

From analysts

Just like piggy

Its sad

[earnest leaf]

Lastro had one average season because he was on toronto

and people think now he's some f tier FS

[cunning patrol]

he sucks

[twin bloom]

He also had to share a team with a dogshit ot ms and flex dps

Lastro heesu and aspire whenever he played

[cunning patrol]

no

[twin bloom]

Were their only above avg players

Imo

Despite what

Sado fans

Will claim

[cunning patrol]

lol

[twin bloom]

Ok my sado take

Was misinformed

But my lastro take is not

In my view

[cunning patrol]

https://twitter.com/clairvoyan7/status/1550266994313887744?s=21&t=MmAQmAtjnzeuviKeG0M3og

clair (@clairvoyan7)

https://t.co/BoaBqOJWW2

Likes

1011

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Twitter · Jul 21, 2022, 11:50 PM

this is a REALLY good player!!!!

that is his ONLY good character FYIIII

[twin bloom]

Good players make risky plays

Imo

[cloud latch]

good players execute risky plays well

[cunning patrol]

i would have got 1

[gusty rampart]

Lucio, Zen, Brig, and a decent Bap

Lastro overhated

[next mesa]

Did you just list Lucio brig

Dumb mf

[next mesa]

So true

[cunning patrol]

Brodie called his bap decent 😂😂😂😂

[turbid cargo]

We’ll get the shock and fuel rosters tmr right?

[chilly mauve]

lets all remember

that lastros lucio was key in the atlanta c9

fastro could never do that

chorong chiyo vindaim wouldnt be able to accomplish that

only lastro could have

lastro number 1 lucio

[gusty rampart]

brodie is being payed by the Chinese government to say MMonk is good

newsflash he's kind of dog

[cunning patrol]

😂😂😂😂

[hearty night]

How long do we need to wait for our owl tokens from the challenger cup

[sullen berry]

It's now spelt 干丹尺山凡丫一九八七

[next mesa]

Mmonk is good

[tawdry hamlet]

Prediction

Boston dps line will flounder and disband a month into season

That lineup seems Hella volatile player wise

Returning to ow player, player who has dipped from his last two teams, and decay

[full lichen]

My pred: They lose first game and Striker leaves Boston for the 50th time, Decay will be washed, Birdring will carry the Dps, Smurf is Smurf, and the support line is already kind of washed, so Boston will be like 2022 London

They'll be pretty good, but not good enough for a championship

[earnest leaf]

tbf I don't think striker chose to leave boston in s5

[tawdry hamlet]

I predict, Striker dips week 4, birdring doesn't enjoy it and re retires, and decay is just above average hitscan all season and nothing special

[twin bloom]

Boston are unironically just a better version of their team last year

Lol

[chilly mauve]

i predict, smurf will carry them into an excellent first stage, then after that all hell breaks lose as the meta does not fit them very well and their dps start to rage

[tawdry hamlet]

They don't have crimzgoat they'll lose smh

[twin bloom]

Mid dps

[chilly mauve]

then we see striker and decay leave the team from management

[twin bloom]

Decent tank

And support

Line

[chilly mauve]

and they sign backbone or some shit

to replace the dps hole

[tawdry hamlet]

Wild Shanghai separated the squad which I guess makes sense but still

so many memories

[chilly mauve]

personally i think the dps will be fine if they can get their anger issues checked

i dont feel like the backline will live up to expectation

i dont think izayaki/leejaegon can thrive with a whole new team like this

they have very specific playstyles which end up getting them killed

[tawdry hamlet]

I wonder if the game has just passed the Shanghai players and they aren't as good as they were and will never live up to expectations or if they like come in full strength again since mechanically they all have the talent to do it

[earnest leaf]

I think they were good players that were greatly exaggerated by the perfect meta

having 90% of your players on their best or 2nd best heroes at all time for most a season is gonna let you do well

[tiny pollen]

getoffzenexe my goat

[cunning patrol]

Having 6 players play at the same caliber 2 years in a row is mad rare

[tawdry hamlet]

That's fair but s3 they dumpstered all season too. I know they didn't make finals but it's literally the one hero fearless isn't goated at 😭 and the stand1 incident happened

Like say what you want about that Shanghai roster being one tricks or meta exclusive but they won outside of just Sombra

Also thinking, how tf was s3 Philly so good

In hindsight it doesn't seem that special idk

Well actually, Carpe heesu ASTRO alarm is pretty stacked and then fury Sado in prime nvm 💀

[agile flicker]

Hi

[balmy wolf]

best take ive seen all day

[agile flicker]

HAH

[plush grail]

Fuck reign

[balmy wolf]

i would

[balmy wolf]

welcome to ed btw

[hot onyx]

https://twitter.com/leakmafia_OW/status/1607060424637415425?t=8swaAKPbXUqHrJIzdIYpgA&s=19

leak mafia (@leakmafia_OW)

https://t.co/QrRj5nniLU

Likes

756

Twitter · Dec 25, 2022, 5:07 PM

glad to see 4th Dimension get owl rep

[agile flicker]

Erectile dysfunction?

Oh wait

I’m slow

[balmy wolf]

it feels like that sometimes tbh

[agile flicker]

I’m not sure how that feels

[balmy wolf]

me neither but i bet it feels like shit

[agile flicker]

Mhm I love shit

Jk 😭

[balmy wolf]

i thought for a sec

goddamn

[agile flicker]

You do that to me

If I was fr

[balmy wolf]

nah i would eat shit too fr

[agile flicker]

: 0

[balmy wolf]

jk thats ur job

[agile flicker]

Gross!

[balmy wolf]

shitter

[agile flicker]

I am the opposite

[balmy wolf]

of what

[agile flicker]

Uhh

[balmy wolf]

exactly

[agile flicker]

You like scat you’re WEIRD