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twin bloom
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It was like one and a half tournaments

twilit oriole
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At least you know it🙏🙏

twin bloom
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Not even 2

limpid grail
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KC and SS?

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wait

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no yeah KC was when Dallas were playing zarya and everyone else was on that tracer soldier genji hype

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I guess MM was diverse but he still showed up

fathom igloo
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Ok do you guys think hero bans will come back next season or are we going to stay with out them another year

cloud latch
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I think they won't ever come back

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thank god

fathom igloo
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Hero bans were fun

cloud latch
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no

fathom igloo
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God the 2020 season feels like ions ago

buoyant jacinth
limpid grail
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I am having a brain fart

fathom igloo
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I thought 2020 was s3

limpid grail
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lord
I purged the hero bans season from my system

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it was such

buoyant jacinth
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Yes it was

limpid grail
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garbage

buoyant jacinth
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Hero bans were so ass

limpid grail
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seesaw challenge

fathom igloo
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It was a smart idea

buoyant jacinth
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Just a shit way to plug the terrible balancing

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Lol

fathom igloo
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They just executed it bad

limpid grail
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forced meta where the teams were hot trash on certain weeks with terrible comps

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mickey mouse

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clubhouse

cloud latch
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how would they execute it well?

fathom igloo
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I remember when it was in actual OW

limpid grail
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that was arguably worse lol

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you'd just get one tricks who

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could not perform

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or if a character was on the uptick and you wanted to learn them

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screw you for a week!

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go play qp!

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at least pro teams have coaches who can actually develop compositions based on diverse hero pools

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ladder is

cloud latch
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it was fun til fun heroes got banned the week after the throw picks were banned

limpid grail
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screwed

fathom igloo
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Honestly that's why I stopped playing OW

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Then I went back with role lock

buoyant jacinth
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Lol

fathom igloo
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Also tbf I got burnt out of the game

buoyant jacinth
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Wasn't role lock before hero pools

fathom igloo
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No after

buoyant jacinth
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I'm like

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99.9% sure it was before

cloud latch
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I swear it was before

fathom igloo
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Was it before

cloud latch
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yeah cause it hero pools was in 2020

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that was aftrer goats

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and s2 had role lock

buoyant jacinth
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Yeah and goats wouldn't have been a thing if hero pools were there

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At least for some weeks

fathom igloo
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Yeah you right

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Wait no s2 was 2019 and was still goats

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Until the end of these season

buoyant jacinth
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Stage 4 was role lock

cloud latch
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^

woeful rock
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Why do they not play Genji in OWL right now btw? Feels overtuned enough for OWL. Sojourn + Monkey that hard to deal with as genji?

cloud latch
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the patch they played on was the patch genji got nerfed

woeful rock
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Ahhhh

cloud latch
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owl sometimes plays on later patches or older patches

fathom igloo
raw ermine
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!!!!!!!

cloud latch
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THE GOAT

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HE'S BACK

worn falcon
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2 goat

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Pumper in

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Haksal lft when blizz already broke genji bones on 15th

vagrant jacinth
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MAKE 👏 IT 👏 HAPPEN 👏

halcyon spoke
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Did they give the skins from watching the finals and playoffs ,or is it tomorrow? 🙂

vagrant jacinth
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15th

halcyon spoke
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Thanks ❤️

vagrant jacinth
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Np

trim shadow
static pond
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Haksal like non stops plays Genji

willow drum
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is that not just misogny

magic flare
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no its fax

willow drum
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unless you are an owl pro

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there are probably women players

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better than you

magic flare
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so?

willow drum
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so how can they suck

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it is just less of them chose to play ow

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so there are less of them at the top

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muted 💀

cedar oasis
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Hm

buoyant jacinth
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what he say

cedar oasis
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????

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??????

buoyant jacinth
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i think some stuff got deleted

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lol

cedar oasis
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COMPARED TO PRO OWL PLAYERS WOMEN ARE WORSE THEN MEN

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THATS A FACT

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???

buoyant jacinth
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imo

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cancel

cedar oasis
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Actual fact

willow drum
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this is AGREGIOUS behavior

willow drum
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and superrich

lost thicket
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I mean

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maybe fixa yeah

buoyant jacinth
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superich too

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they're both equally bad

lost thicket
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she is not better then paris support line or superrich imo

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was superrich bad? Like yeah he had some issues but I don't think he was like THAT level of bad you know

cedar oasis
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Name a women better then lip

willow drum
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he was

cedar oasis
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Or shu

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Or smurf

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Or hanbin

willow drum
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at overwatch?

cedar oasis
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Or pelican

willow drum
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or any other life skill

cedar oasis
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Yes at ow

willow drum
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cause i guarantee you

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the top pro gamers

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do not have social lives

cedar oasis
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I specified at the owl level

willow drum
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or street smarts

buoyant jacinth
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proper has a lot of friends

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imo

willow drum
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hanbin has a full on training facility

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mf still obese

willow drum
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so bad

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with his beats

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it is ridiculous

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man would beat when down 2

lost thicket
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I mean yeah he had beat issues but I don't think he had many other issues comparatively

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who are the bottom 3 MS?

willow drum
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fixa

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superrich

buoyant jacinth
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superich fixa

willow drum
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and idk

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maybe like

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masaa

static pond
willow drum
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only by fellow pros

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you put him in the outside world

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i guarantee you he is not finding hoes

static pond
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In Korea

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Where esports is huge

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He probably is lol

chilly mauve
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wait wtf

buoyant jacinth
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imo

chilly mauve
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Haksal

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Is back

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what

willow drum
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guys haksal is overrated

chilly mauve
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lastro was good tho?

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Except the final 2 matches

willow drum
static pond
willow drum
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haksal is washed

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and going back into teh league

chilly mauve
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Who knows

willow drum
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wont be a top 5 genji

static pond
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I be surprised if he gets picks up

willow drum
next mesa
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he will be

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best genji

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imo

static pond
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All he does is play genji

next mesa
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wrong

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mei, doom, pharah

static pond
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I seen his streams seems like he plays genji all the time lol

next mesa
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what a good representation

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of his heropool

willow drum
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is better genji

static pond
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That pretty much all we got tbh

willow drum
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kevster

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as well

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sparkle and whoru

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too

static pond
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Doubt haksal scrims

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That much now

chilly mauve
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Bottom 3 Ms - faith, gangnamjin, lengsa

static pond
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Gang a main support?

chilly mauve
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He was at the start of the year

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So I’m counting him

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before they signed ansoonjae

static pond
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Ah

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Wait does nyxl have two main supports?

chilly mauve
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no

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technically

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Yes

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listen

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Myungbong was their dedicated flex support

static pond
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Ya

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He was dropped

chilly mauve
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gangnamjin is another flex support who transitioned to main support

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cuz they needed a lucio

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similar to violet and lastro

static pond
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Gang became the flex support that that drop

chilly mauve
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however due to the joats meta

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They signed ansoonjae a main support

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Cuz the meta was brig lucio

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they dropped myungbong after that cuz he was not that great

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so gangnamjin went back to flex support

lost thicket
chilly mauve
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I feel like fixa and opener were better than faith and lengsa

lost thicket
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fixa was like

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decent

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but decent is not good

chilly mauve
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but he was still better than those 2

lost thicket
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faith was slightly mroe decent

next mesa
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no one touches

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haksal

lost thicket
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and lengsa I just don't remember

next mesa
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on the genji

lost thicket
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haksal could be top 5 or better genji

static pond
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So like what does ho1 play on nyxl?

lost thicket
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for a short time people made fun of NYXL for having 3 flex supports

static pond
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Ah thought he was a main support lol

lost thicket
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cause they signed Ho1 before ANJ

chilly mauve
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I forgot abt him ngl

static pond
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Same

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So like myung was drop for ho1?

chilly mauve
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kinda

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But they would start gangnamjin over ho1 if I’m not mistaken

willow drum
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faith and lengsa

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arent anywhere near bottom 3

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GNJ isnt either

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maybe he is bt 5

chilly mauve
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so ur saying lastro is worse than gangnamjin?

willow drum
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i am saying fixa

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and superrich

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are worse than gangnamjin

worn falcon
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Ez

full lichen
willow drum
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what

full lichen
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Answer the Question

next mesa
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faith

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obviously(??)

full lichen
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I just want people's opinions

willow drum
north relic
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My goat

full lichen
willow drum
full lichen
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Ok

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Ngl, I wish this was real

flat gull
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Anyone know how to claim overwatch league rewards

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?

full lichen
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November 15

flat gull
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where have they announced it?

full lichen
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Idk

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Since it's the next patch, makes sense it would be there

fathom igloo
worn falcon
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Gonna be fun when people don't receive anything the 15th

uncut drum
uncut drum
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that would be so crazy

humble yarrow
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Who did they trade lip for?

cloud latch
humble yarrow
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It's a rumor

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Could still happen

balmy wolf
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💀

cloud latch
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not a rumor but yes it could happen

humble yarrow
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Leak, rumor same thing

cloud latch
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it isn't real

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?

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it isn't a leak

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it's fake

humble yarrow
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It is infact a leak

balmy wolf
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bro what 😭

humble yarrow
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"Leaked signing"

balmy wolf
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ballsack esports

humble yarrow
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I'm dyslexic and I can read that

balmy wolf
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are u lost bro

humble yarrow
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That the most reliable source

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Wdym

balmy wolf
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yeah

silver cradle
vagrant jacinth
vagrant jacinth
neat crane
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p

fast tusk
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BUMPER IS COMING BACK???

worn falcon
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If someone picks pumper, yes

fast tusk
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wow

vagrant jacinth
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Get the band back together

fathom igloo
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Yo runway titans?

next mesa
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ayo

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i would sign TBHG

devout path
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The big house G

fathom igloo
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Too bad jjanu and stitch are retired....

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Wait assassin and MAG exsist

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Also love how people just assume ranks means your game sense is bad like crusty was like plat or diamond and was like one of the best coaches rank means shit ty for coming to my ted talk

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Idc what all the reddit kids say

limpid grail
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alright pat

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show us your game sense

fathom igloo
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Alright what tank d.va zar rein

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So for example it's better to throw SD up cause when it lands it's a bigger area and would get more kills

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Where as sometimes it's better to set it off on point to push them back

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Also you should have your head on a shrivel since you as the tank needs to be able to see where the supports are

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Point proven just cause I'm gold doesn't mean I have bad game sense

twilit oriole
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Bro😭😭

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This is like basic knowledge

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No shit throwing SD up is gonna cover bigger area

fathom igloo
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You are a counsel kid so you have no room to talk

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Spoiled brat

twilit oriole
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Crazy how you won’t 1v1 me thou?

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Scared of being beaten by a console player?

twilit oriole
fathom igloo
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Because I'm busy with a JOB so I can BUY MY OWN STUFF YOU FUCKING BRAINDEAD SPOILED Little kid go fuck yourself you are insecure and make fun of me cause you have no friends and no body to love so fuck off get a JOB and LEAVE ME ALONE YOU LITTL FUCKING CREEP

next mesa
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forgoodking's obsession with pokemonpat is concerning

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i recommend seeking a therapist

fathom igloo
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Same

next mesa
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since you cannot get a restraining order online

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like no one's talking to him but he loves to butt in the conversation

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its a little weirdo behavior

fathom igloo
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Exactly

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I picked up that he was a spoiled brat for a while

next mesa
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they were amazing

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this season

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i guess u werent watching

ocean crag
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I swear they lost

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The ones I watched they lost?

fathom igloo
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Ok and all teams lost

ocean crag
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No shit sherlock

fathom igloo
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So how does that make a team shit

ocean crag
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Bc your not allowed to loose

next mesa
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u are

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braindead

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sadly

ocean crag
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Nah

next mesa
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🫰

fathom igloo
ocean crag
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Did you know Pokemon ending?

next mesa
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console players amirite

ocean crag
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I'm a console player

fathom igloo
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You aren't making fun of someone though for no reason

ocean crag
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No

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I'm nice

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Wanna see something?

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My team

twilit oriole
fathom igloo
next mesa
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pat why do u keep

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responding

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weird too

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u guys are both wasting some time

fathom igloo
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I just reported him to the mods

vagrant jacinth
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Just block buddy

next mesa
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yeah stop responding

fathom igloo
vagrant jacinth
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I get that

next mesa
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then stop responding

fathom igloo
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I reported him to the mods and blocked him

twilit oriole
cloud latch
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what is SD pat

next mesa
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self destruct

cloud latch
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oh

fathom igloo
buoyant jacinth
fathom igloo
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I said plat or diamond

buoyant jacinth
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Most coaches are Masters and aren't gm because they don't care enough to push

next mesa
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crusty showed his account once

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i remember

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6 stack coach

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all plat diamond

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they went like 1-10

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it was kinda funny

buoyant jacinth
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Also crazy how casores was higher rank than ta1yo

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When ta1yo was on shock

next mesa
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ta1yo cree was real guys

fathom igloo
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I miss tayo

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He may of been bad

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But

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Ummm

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He was sexy

cloud latch
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OK

uneven ibex
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esports 😎

ocean crag
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I'm

cunning patrol
uneven ibex
buoyant jacinth
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Ta1yo is a 3.9k player

cunning patrol
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You have

buoyant jacinth
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While casores is a 4.1k player

cunning patrol
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Taiyo is an honest 4.3k wage thief

buoyant jacinth
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He is a bum

cunning patrol
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He is

uncut drum
next mesa
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london was terrible

uncut drum
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ok now i am pissed

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is he stupid

fathom igloo
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Yes he is

tepid raft
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random q, what improvements do the titans need to do for a playoff run?

fathom igloo
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Coach mostly imho

tepid raft
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whos better than dpei?

chilly mauve
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but they also need good players

fathom igloo
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Meh their dps was pretty good

chilly mauve
fathom igloo
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King

chilly mauve
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Seicoe?

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Oh right

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Yeah that’s pretty solid

fathom igloo
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Originally shokwave

chilly mauve
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Pretty hard to say they can make a playoff run with that

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tho

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tank needs a big upgrade

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And so does flex support

fathom igloo
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Support is the big thing

full lichen
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Ngl, Aspire, King, Majed, Anamo, False is what I think they'll get next year

hot onyx
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they aren’t going to keep Aspire

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Titans do not have the budget to keep a player his calibre for longer than one year

full lichen
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Ngl, Aspire to Mayhem would be good

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And realistic

chilly mauve
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mikeyy to Vancouver

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would be huge

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keep false on offtank and mikeyy on main tank

full lichen
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Maybe

hot onyx
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Mikeyy to Vancouver is going to be main tank Masaa

chilly mauve
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dps line aspire king or add someone like speedily/nero

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and for support

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idk

full lichen
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Where the fuck are Titans getting the money for those players?

hot onyx
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grand finalist that becomes bottom 5 after being milked by the Titans

full lichen
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Titans gonna Hire Kuki try to keep their current starting 5 and have Kuki as a backup

cunning patrol
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Lol

hot onyx
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they will want to keep him and try to

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but Aspire will want to go to a team that actually offers a living wage

full lichen
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Aspire will literally cost half of Titans budget

cunning patrol
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Titans are not that poverty

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Lol

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And his contract has one more year

hot onyx
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any sources?

cunning patrol
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My nuts kid

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Don’t question me

hot onyx
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ok

fathom igloo
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bro ren't soundtrack is so good while playing OW

twin bloom
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Titans has more money

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Than mayhem

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Lol

full lichen
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How do you know that?

tropic herald
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titans has money

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just shit rep

full lichen
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Lol

twin bloom
tropic herald
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well like

twin bloom
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By yiska

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And halo

tropic herald
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not money money

twin bloom
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As well

tropic herald
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but more than mayhem

cunning patrol
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Titans had a big roster

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And aspire and Masaa were both above minimum

twin bloom
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Chris also leaked that titans outpspent them 4 times

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For masaa

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Lol

full lichen
tropic herald
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its a ggrecon article

twin bloom
twin bloom
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And false was not 50k

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Imo

tropic herald
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titans also had aspirations for other large name players

twin bloom
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Neither was aztac

cunning patrol
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Lol

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Titans for scammed

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Then

full lichen
cunning patrol
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Got

twin bloom
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I am pretty sure the only 50k players on titans

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Were skai

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Seicoe

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King

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Mirror

limpid grail
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titans

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kinda had a nice roster dang

twin bloom
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It was justice boston level

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But they ran false monkey in a meta they coulda ran zarya

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And imploded a week into the szn

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Tradgedy

next mesa
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"trainee"

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lmao

tropic herald
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cosmetic

keen abyss
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I want to use this to spread guxue propaganda but he mostly just played in playoffs meta yeah?

tropic herald
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correct

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most of the season bernar was playing even on main tank heroes

keen abyss
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I saw him in person he wasn’t as big as expected

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same with propah

tropic herald
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proper is pretty short too iirc

vagrant jacinth
fathom igloo
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Not surprised

keen abyss
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I swear he’s 5’4

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seeing him walk down the aisle was surreal my short king

trim shadow
static pond
keen abyss
buoyant jacinth
lost thicket
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What was the game danteh played dps this season

fathom igloo
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A couple but I have no idea

static pond
keen abyss
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I don’t know who it was against

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but I swear I remember route 66 point c

buoyant jacinth
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Colloseo

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I'm p sure

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Vs justice

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yeah it was

image.png
twin bloom
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As well

cunning patrol
buoyant jacinth
twin bloom
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Vs aspire

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Imho

fathom igloo
clever narwhal
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yo sigma is best

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if you dont play him leave

fathom igloo
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?

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He's dog

clever narwhal
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stfu

fathom igloo
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Zar d.va and rein are a lot better

clever narwhal
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hes the best tank

fathom igloo
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On some maps yes

clever narwhal
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L player

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leave the server

fathom igloo
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I mean I know what tanks are good

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I am a tank player

clever narwhal
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@feral lotus ban this guy

fathom igloo
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And right now sig is shit

clever narwhal
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i need a mod to ban him

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rn

fathom igloo
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I didn't even do anything wrong lmao

clever narwhal
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@strong temple can you ban this guy

zinc patio
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waa my sigma got dissed waaa

clever narwhal
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jokes on you i dont know what that means

fathom igloo
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Ah so you are a noob got it

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Sig is honestly only good on line two maps circuit and route 66 some

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But until Tuesday zar is the play

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Ha he got muted

static pond
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Weret you the one that always says

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Rank doesn’t mean shit

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Lol

fathom igloo
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I mean yes it doesn't matter

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I just loved how he tried to argue sig was good

willow drum
fathom igloo
willow drum
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sigma is better on more maps

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than rein

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imho

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since people just play zarya on KR now

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but zarya is best tanjk

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by far

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lol

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i cant wiat for a monkey meta

fathom igloo
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You mean hog right

willow drum
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no i mean monkey

worn falcon
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Hadi with a other season with rein

willow drum
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the KR players

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are playing monkey

worn falcon
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KR loves monke

willow drum
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true

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cuyo with logical thinking

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odd...

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@devout path what do u want

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ok

worn falcon
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I mean they try monke for every thing except when doesn't work and gotta play orisa/Zarya/sig

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And gotta see how the new tank goes

willow drum
static pond
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Because rock

willow drum
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I was Lip...

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Carrying bums like
"FANGIRL" aka "Fraudleta"
"TURNSEY" aka "FeedJaeGone"
"DOCTORDOG" aka "Midayaki"
"SPICYTUNA" aka "Late"

static pond
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Mercy Ana

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Moria Ana

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Did you win?

willow drum
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no

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we lost

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despite this fleta deadlift

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im just like lip

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i had these goated stats

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and we still lost

static pond
willow drum
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NO

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WAY

worn falcon
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Pls

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Why

static pond
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Holy shit

worn falcon
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Their best DPS

static pond
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They let him go

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He’s free!!!

worn falcon
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Unless they grab Striker/Haksal

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Venom

static pond
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???

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I rate heesu above striker and hak imo

worn falcon
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I just wanted Toronto to have someone better than friggin Finale or Although

fathom igloo
static pond
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True

fathom igloo
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Tor restart

worn falcon
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And they let go their better dps

fathom igloo
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I called it

static pond
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I wonder who else

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He probably exploring fa

willow drum
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lol

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they will be much better than justice next year

fathom igloo
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Idc

willow drum
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trust my sources

worn falcon
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They had better core like Twilight, Chorong, Heesu

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One left

static pond
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Weird thing I wonder if it was mentioned before that some players were on more then a one year contract

worn falcon
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Fuck my life

static pond
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I wonder if it twilight that more on a one year contract

tropic herald
tiny pollen
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botba my goat

willow drum
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coluge retweeted this

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max is going to shock confirmed

tiny pollen
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max a ft?

willow drum
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?

tiny pollen
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flex tank

willow drum
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he's an OT

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with a monkey

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but realistically why would he play any MTs

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since the only tanks that were meta this year

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were OTs

tiny pollen
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watt

willow drum
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and Monkey

tiny pollen
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monkey was meta for 3/4s of the year

chilly mauve
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NO NOT HEESU

willow drum
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monkey and OT

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is max's hero pool

tiny pollen
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and weve seen how monkey offtank experimentws have gone

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ooh

forest token
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what OT was meta other than zarya

willow drum
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sigma

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junkerqueen

forest token
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only on poke maps

tiny pollen
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sig wasnt meta

willow drum
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dva

willow drum
tiny pollen
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dva wasnt meta;

willow drum
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watch MM

forest token
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was dva meta?

willow drum
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yes

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dva was meta first weeks of cc

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imo

forest token
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she was used by shit tier teams and shock for a bit

static pond
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Ya a bit

tiny pollen
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cc meta was monkey and zar

forest token
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the decent teams ran doom or monkey over her early on

chilly mauve
tiny pollen
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na watchers

chilly mauve
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it was straight up just zarya

forest token
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JQ can't be classified as an OT because it's not ow1

willow drum
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since mostly ots

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played her

forest token
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that's not what makes a tank an OT

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there's an actual gameplay distinction

chilly mauve
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i mean she would prob be an off tank no? if it was ow1

tiny pollen
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not in ow2 imo

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she would be a mt in ow1

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and not played

forest token
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that distinction still is very relevant for the OTs in ow2 because it constricts their relevancy and it changes how they have to be balanced to be useful

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ye JQ would probably be a MT

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zar/JQ would be kinda nasty

willow drum
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there isnt any role distinction between mt and ot

tiny pollen
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any jq comp would be smothered by ball comp

willow drum
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we just classify heroes based on what

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players play them

forest token
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there's still tangible gameplay differences that affect how they have to be balanced

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dva and zarya fundamentally are shit-tier characters that have to be carried by their damage output and survivability

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monkey fundamentally is insanely fucking good

ancient onyx
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The difference between OT and MT is completely gone in OW2

tiny pollen
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tanks are just anchor tanks now

ancient onyx
forest token
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because bubble just does so fucking much

willow drum
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@tiny pollen but to answer your question

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max has played every meta character this year

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either at an A tier

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or S

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except for Ball

tiny pollen
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shock should resign mikey

willow drum
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if you count him as somewhat meta

tiny pollen
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mikey can be the new ameng

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ameng but rizz god

chilly mauve
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ik its not confirmed

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but from the looks of it

tiny pollen
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need more mikey best rizz moments

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🐐

cunning patrol
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mikeyy has degenerate rizz

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people just arent hip

tiny pollen
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u mean most rizz out of any owl player by far

cunning patrol
worn falcon
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Shock just moving to hire O2 blast

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Unless other teams offers better monies

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Imagine if Heesang goes to Dallas

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Or Toronto gpu_pepe_prayge

fathom igloo
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Heesu Washington time

vagrant cargo
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He's 2 big for ur club

static pond
fathom igloo
mortal cipher
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Maybe it might be good finally

keen abyss
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it feels so weird to see toronto abbreviate years to yrs

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in heesu departure

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idk

next mesa
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zarya counters jq

cloud latch
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she counters like everyone rn

wooden island
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Guys will the owl have an unvault?

fathom igloo
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we don't know

wooden island
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I'm hoping on/after the 15th

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Cuz Morello hinted at it

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I want pacific all-star genji lol

fathom igloo
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I mean no one at OWL has said anything

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If they do it'll probably be in a couple of months

heady cloak
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If there was still a second tank who would be played in this meta

limpid grail
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dva

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she's the only one who covers sojourn and checks monkey
hog is too vulnerable to reaper sojourn charge
JQ sucks
ball obvious
zarya post nerfs might scrape by but it's hard to see although double bubble on reaper with kiriko does sound like crack
rein sigma orisa obvious
and doom is in a transitory period
with slow slam and 6 seconds it would be niche but I could see it
as of now he sucks

heady cloak
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Ty ty

limpid grail
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the issue is how good dva is at contesting high ground compared to zarya
and her mobility is nothing to scoff at

heady cloak
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so why is winston chose over dva

limpid grail
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bubble
contests sojourn easily
primal beats self destruct 9 times out of ten
leap is a good ability

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even though Winston historically does not want to walk into a reaper's face under any circumstance

rose moss
heady cloak
limpid grail
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well that's true but I was more implying that ball isn't that great at rush balling

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err

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rush brawling

rose moss
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Unfortunately he is definitely on the weaker side

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I still one trick with him though

heady cloak
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and when he’s in ball form trying to run away =easy charge

limpid grail
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his midfight is notoriously weak

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which is why he's a good engage character

rose moss
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That’s why the play style is scouting, set up, and engage

limpid grail
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in OW 1 he could be played in those comps at the highest level

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because dva exists

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the character who covers every main tank weakness

heady cloak
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also ultimate is kind of useless if other team knows what their doing

limpid grail
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mines are zoning but zoning is still very good
it's just you won't be popping mines mid fight usually

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he has a large hp pool but also a large hitbox

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and his mitigation is tied to himself

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monkey is very good because he can block as he shoots

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he has cleave and pierce
and alternate fire now gives him an engage tool or a finisher

rose moss
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Kinda wish they buffed ball in someway or rework some sort of thing about him

heady cloak
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is winston considered “hard” to play cause i try to play him but i get stuck just not being in range and leap always on cooldown

rose moss
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I think he’s pretty easy

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Like

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Very easy

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Only his ult is difficult to use

limpid grail
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I do not believe he's hard to play
he is difficult to master however

rose moss
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His ult is very hard to master

limpid grail
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because his ceiling relies on seriously knowing how your enemy plays and knowing how to exploit them

static pond
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And team support

limpid grail
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it's why a lot of people will just go hog when they see monkey and it works

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because if the Winston messes up hog can easily punish

rose moss
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The difference between wintons is always who uses ult more efficiently

limpid grail
#

eh
I don't think primal is extremely important

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it's a good ultimate for sure but one of its key features is a 1000 hp heal

static pond
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If your team doesn’t make use of the space or don’t support you on dive your pretty screwed

rose moss
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Can be one of the strongest ults in the right hands

static pond
limpid grail
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Winston's kit is already extremely good

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primal literally lets him reset his kit
AND get kills while he's at it

rose moss
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It’s essentially a 2nd life

static pond
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And dive without dying

limpid grail
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yea it can be one of the strongest tank ults because displacement and revivals are both very dumb abilities in this game to play against

rose moss
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Yup

static pond
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Winston ult is just made to cause Havoc

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Pretty much sums it up

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Imo

limpid grail
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the strongest one is probably grav in a general sense because it allows focus and resource burning

rose moss
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It’s meant to cause major displacement and fuck with the opposing team

limpid grail
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if not that then primal is first

rose moss
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Grav just has shit loads of synergies

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That’s like the only reason it’s best

heady cloak
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what makes the difference between a good lucio and a great lucio and where is the ceiling

static pond
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Great Lucio don’t ajex

limpid grail
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it honestly varies between lucio players because of different playstyles

rose moss
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Every Lucio has a different play style 😭

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Never the same

static pond
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Great Lucio takes can pick off low health targets

rose moss
static pond
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Even protect the other support

rose moss
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Roll outs

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Etc

heady cloak
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so like what’s a good playstyle to have or is there names for different play styles

limpid grail
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some people will say knowing when to push aggression because you have a ridiculous duelist character with hypermobility is crucial

others will say perfecting your peel for your other support whilst helping your tank win the fight is more important

I think it changes based on the enemy team comp and gamemode

static pond
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It does

rose moss
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It most certainly does

limpid grail
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the names are aggressive and defensive

heady cloak
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Like I usually just stick behind my tank and shoot easy targets while healing everyone in my range

static pond
#

Violet a pretty good example

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About aggressive lucio

limpid grail
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lucio can literally combo the heck out of squishies

rose moss
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Even just running away idk

static pond
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Jesse from Dallas last year is a good example of a passive Lucio

limpid grail
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one thing you will want to perfect is your general movement though

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if you cannot wallride you are missing half the character

rose moss
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A good Lucio can solo kill squishies with good movement

static pond
#

Floor lucio

rose moss
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lel

heady cloak
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also about the ult. does it need to be used when tank and others are at critical health or to ensure a fight is secured during a team fight

rose moss
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It’s like a

static pond
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Both probably depends on enemy ults

limpid grail
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number 1

always use beat to counter

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it is the best counter in the game

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because it still allows healing to go through

static pond
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Beat can be use to counter ults

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Win fights

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Beating then pushing

limpid grail
#

number 2
if there is no reason to counter an ultimate due to lack

rose moss
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For almost all ults if not all

static pond
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But it depends on enemy ults as well

limpid grail
#

use beat to press the advantage with someone who can definitively gain value from overhealth

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beating a soldier on your team on high ground does little to nothing

beating a reaper or rein rushing into the enemy team does a lot

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this is why Winston is a good pair with lucio

static pond
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If you use beat like to push a sombra can counter that

rose moss
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Like a genji blade with overhealth is gonna keep the dude alive but you really don’t wanna use it as some Walmart nano

limpid grail
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well yeah but you're usually countering emp with beat

static pond
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But same time beat can save your time from a sombra ult dive

limpid grail
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if she has emp
you probably won't be aggressively pushing unless you know you won't get defensively emp'd

rose moss
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Lucios ult is literally an equalizer lmao

static pond
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If they use sombra ult just save beat for next fight

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Usually save when one of your teammates die

limpid grail
#

depends
if you don't get immediately blown to smithereens you can beat counter

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but

rose moss
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It’s pretty similar to zens ult but both have their situations that they excel in

limpid grail
#

current sombra does that so

rose moss
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Like iirc a zen ult wont save ur team from a dva bomb

static pond
rose moss
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But a well timed beat drop will

limpid grail
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oh wait that's what the second sentence meant
I misread that

static pond
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Lol

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But Lucio things to master is ult tracking and wall riding

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Imo

limpid grail
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character can be a self healing pest who can make flankers regret flanking

static pond
#

You also can speed boost away when sombra ults if your team is pretty distance

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Making sombra waste emp

static pond
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Mad annoying

tiny pollen
heady cloak
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what is peel

tiny pollen
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Like if ur sojourn is being dove u helping her is peeling

pliant shore
#

I have a question, if you’re in a close range fight with sigma can you melee and still fire primary at the same time of you didn’t?

trim gulch
#

hi is it possible to put your shield up once you see the keyframe animation of enemy reinhard ult, or is it impossible? and you have to brain predict when they're gonna do it

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i saw some clips of super and he's super good lmao, there's a clip of him denying an enemy echo her ult twice and i thought like, is he predicting when she's going to ult and putting his shield up at the right time, or is he reacting to her ult animation

split flume
fickle drift
#

when are we getting the rewards for watching the grand finals ?

tulip viper
#

Is there any way to join free tournaments to earn cash

sand thunder
#

anyone have any tips for playing genji on ps4, already quite a high skill but looking for improvements

lethal silo
#

has everyone gotten all their rewards for watching owl playoff or grand finals yet?

#

i havent so im just wondering

vagrant cargo
#

Winston is so much more than that

uncut drum
#

When is the half team deadline

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To have 5 players

sullen berry
#

San Prisa while Topdragon working from home

image.png
#

Can I get an O2 in here

image.png
uncut drum
#

O2 blast

sullen berry
#

yo im down for o2 putting themselves at a unnoticeable disadvantage with all masks on

image.png
uncut drum
#

They are too good

trim shadow
#

Theese news are straight giving me a migraine

jagged crater
#

i keep missing the games

mental anchor
#

when comes rammatra

jagged crater
#

Prot3ct best hog in the league ?

full lichen
limpid grail
#

ggs

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man it's like

#

hog is so weird

trim shadow
limpid grail
#

like he's actually ridiculous because he can trade picks so easily

split flume
#

wait 815 lost

limpid grail
#

yea

split flume
jagged crater
full lichen
limpid grail
#

the idea that you need to run a kiriko to cover his weakness against Ana
and then he just exploits the stupid midrange where you have to predict hook as opposed to reacting to it

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what blows my mind is how alternate fire can still one shot from like the 8m distance

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the character's existence hinges on ana's prevalence in the meta

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which is hilarious considering their roles

jagged crater
#

Any of dva mains in contenders?

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I imagine she can still save hooked targets

limpid grail
#

I feel like I haven't seen any

#

it's probably this weird ring around the rosie where dva can dump on hog but doesn't brawl better than Winston with a worse ult

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also it's just generally less taxing to peel as monkey

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so I think that's why he gets heavily used in pro play

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because sojournwatch

tulip viper
#

!!doomfist

north relic
#

I though this was a professional server smh

limpid grail
#

they spitting facts

balmy wolf
#

Thinking about possibly watching some games in the upcoming season. When does the new one start? I know last season like JUST ended so possibly not for a while? Haha

keen abyss
balmy wolf
#

Thanks! So a bit (bummer. haha)

north relic
#

Join connect four league to shorten wait

half zephyr
#

bOSTON IS SUS

shy iron
#

Who wanna do some unranked and have fun?

static pond
#

Thought bliss might have been in talked with shock

keen abyss
#

probably gonna explore all his options before finalizing with shock bc why not

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I mean every other big money team already has an S tier main support I guess

round shadow
#

bliss to fusion

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🙏

worn falcon
keen abyss
#

every team that has a shit ms has a really good fdps and every team that has a bad fdps has a really good ms

limpid grail
#

toronto

keen abyss
#

??

#

are you saying ch0r0ng is not great

north relic
#

Chorong is lft

fathom igloo
#

so is heesu

north relic
limpid grail
#

finale...

shy iron
#

Who wanna play overwatch 2 unranked? for fun?

fathom igloo
keen abyss
static pond
#

So apparently kilo a free agent?

#

Well not a fa

#

But posted it then deleted the tweet

limpid grail
#

gottem

worn falcon
#

On weibo

#

Fucking Valiant

cursive cypress
#

Guys which time we will get owl stuff ?

static pond
cursive cypress
#

I mean this stuff

static pond
#

La Val doesn’t even care at this point I feel like nothing on twitter as far as I know

cursive cypress
#

I want knight mercy icon MercyWhy

static pond
#

Apparently it tomorrow

worn falcon
static pond
#

That the icons and sprays will be given

fathom igloo
#

Tomorrow we also get zar nerfs

static pond
worn falcon
hot onyx
#

have zero main support

cloud latch
#

big money team

hot onyx
#

and money

keen abyss
static pond
#

Lmao nvm

cloud latch
#

REAL

limpid grail
#

the greatest bait

hot onyx
#

comedy king

limpid grail
#

REAL

keen abyss
#

I considered ojee good enough

limpid grail
#

BRING IT BACK

#

ojee is good

cloud latch
#

wait did you bait yourself rob???

limpid grail
#

enough

keen abyss
#

to not warrant signing bliss heesang

static pond
#

Lmao ya old post

cloud latch
#

💀

static pond
#

Mb

hot onyx
#

yeah but Bliss Heesang would be a massive upgrade over Ojee Speed

keen abyss
#

Atlanta doesn’t sound like the type of team to sign bliss heesang anyway idk

hot onyx
#

Atlanta didn't sound like the type of team to sign Pelican

cloud latch
#

they signed edison and erster

hot onyx
#

released Erster in season 4

cloud latch
#

released pelican as well

#

and edi

hot onyx
#

yeah that went well for them tbh

cloud latch
#

there should be mip award

#

oops

#

it might be mi for most improved

#

just to give chadi another award :)

keen abyss
hot onyx
#

i think Edison or Checkmate would be in with a shot of stealing it from Chadi

keen abyss
#

how much of Edison’s is him being a stronger player vs him having an SS tier OT an S tier winston an S tier lucio an S- tier fs and an S tier genji

hot onyx
#

Fielder is not S-

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i thought that narrative died