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It would've been ok if we could just track the progress on YT
That’s why I have absolutely nothing since day 2
youtube works well but twitch is just more convenient
good for you.
valid
but its about money
idk what they’re doing tbh and u can’t contact them about it either
Ye but at least make a announcement about the glitching of the rewards cuz now they make it look like they’re trying just to advertise the league and barely put in any effort for the rewards
Well I mean it is blizzard…
i mean i can try to get the complaints heard more but i doubt it will change anything
We should
I just want a response
A reason
A official announcement about why some aren’t getting anything
i can ask my brother to complain about it but im not sure if overwatch league is affiliated with distributing the skins themselves
anyone got there stuff yet ?
didnt they say that the items will be on our accs on or after 15th november im pretty sure that this was on the website
but i got some of the items
just a few rest probably on or after 15th november
like the grey skins
me too thats the actual „bug“
shouldnt the tokens come in the inventory after 2 days
the rest will come later
like i got until ana but lucio emote or my 100 tokens
i didnt get
normally yes but i think thats just a little problem that they have i got 135 tokens but it started adding them on day 3 but not even every one
i didnt even get ana 😦
i just got the 6 hours skins
same
i watched all playoffs entirely and thats about 30 hours
as i said we will get everything probably on or after 15th november
we shall see
if not theyll get a sh!tstorm and we will see
exactly for now we have to be patient
9days 
nah way more if you watched all
when is next stream i forgot
isnt it finished now?
grand finals encore did end already
i watched the enchores aswell
i skipped some
but i watched the normal runs and encores so i should have everything
only lives
it does
ofc
it doesnt ?
for me it said the encores are premieres
Only lives!
those premieres are the clips before the stream starts
encores are lives
ye but im not getting shiii
15th
if it break we will most likely get stuff in compensation
me neither
but since i read the rules and infos on the website i know what i have to do
Anyone got there owl kiriko skin?
Just monitization ia the main issue tbh
Some balancing and bringing maps back and its good game

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that seems like they got hacked
I hope
Am I the only one who hasn't gotten the points g
they got hacked on their brand account lmfao
its deleted
If its not hacked thats embarassing
it is hacked
It's deleted again
Didn't realize the Bio
Ok they changed it too
It seems they got control of it now

Nah, I haven't gotten any tokens from the last couple streams either
Damn i haven't gotten my skins my tokens nothing.
I'm just hoping tokens drop before Clockwork is gone
oh no
it has started
Damn
Butterfinger playoffs mvp
what going 5-19 does to a mf
The vancouver titans effect
are the drops still on?
when do we get the skins for kiriko and junker queen for watching 2 hours of the grand finels?
Did the encore of the grand finals count towards the rewards for the grand finals?
rlly want that junker skin
Sad
But another off season
Another like 10 retirements or disappeances
Yes
Nov 15
Nov 15
everyone will get their skins on Nov 15 and after, anything before is scuffed or something
i dont know why but yesterday i got the 3 hour skins and the 6 hours skins
what about the battel league tokens?
some people got skins and tokens already and some didn't get anything
The official date for rewards is Nov 15
Is it just me or is this current meta extremely boring? It's all Sojourn getting random headshots and deciding a fight and mirror comps all day
I really wanted to see SP4RK1E play Gengi but reaper is the meta ig 🤷♂️
Thats how owl has been for the last 2 years
But this one is just boring
Like in 2019 finals
Shock played freaking Bastion
It was awesome
E A sports to the game
I enjoyed, thought it was cool
2019 finals was a 4-0 lmfao waht
ye, twitch drops are instant ?
2019 was fucking double shield bro
and it also had reaper did it not
"mirror comps"
gegni my fav hero
6v6 Overwatch 
I got the 3,6 and 9. Weird
Amazon has a market cap of 928 billion and they figured out how to make instant, Google has a market cap of 1.12 trillion and they haven't figured it out
We're talking about trillion dollar technology companies, they should have the kinks worked out
figured out how to make what instant
how much league token do u have?
i got up to 15 and only 140 tokens but i watched all streams and encores
Doom in the dps slot 
It'll probably be a couple weeks to months before the big moves start
Void
Masaa
105 I should have more
got 60 and watched 31 hours
I got absolutely nothing and watched everything
Rather watch that instead of the exact same team composition for 5 hours with the only change being a short switch to tracer and then right back to Sojourn
Shock vs Houston
Winston
Sojourn
Reaper
Lucio
Kiriko
Guess what Shock vs Dallas was
For the 7 games played
same i still dont have my rewards
It was sojourn vs sojourn
Even tokens?
yh i dont have the skins or tokens from the grand finals
OHHHHHHH I GET WHY YOU'RE MAD it's cause you're a shock fan 😂 L + BOZO + DOUBLESHIELD WAS WORSE
london and atl played bastion in playoffs
florida played hog I'm pretty sure
along with spark
I doubt it?
I dont think there will be radiacle change among coaching
Outside vegas
i didnt follow the current owl but wth i didnt expect them to win
Vancouver probably believes in whats his face so
same I had them at like 3rd behind glads and seoul (I had glads winning it all)
yea i stopped following owl mid year when glads was like winning tourneys
was so confused
like wtf
holy hell its taking much longer the past few days to get tokens
Some of us haven’t gotten any rewards at all it’s bad
i got 5 tokens 2 days ago even tho i watched well over 4h and i havent gotten any for yesterdays
I watched everything and haven’t gotten anything at all lol
very sad
i wish the website could tell u how many hours u watched
so we could tell if we managed to watch long enough to get some skin from those rewards
This meta was tailor made for Dallas with Edison leveling up so much
Hivemind rush meta which Dallas have always been good at with fearless on monkey
yeah I did not think reaper would be meta
so like dallas could pop off but like their tracer player gets gapped by a lot of others in playoffs
Dallas was probably the team that first tried the reaper over the tracer in scrims
yeah def
Does anybody know how to claim the owl rewards on the app
One good thing so far in the off season
Dallas Sallad
Wait who's creed
zen and mercy is the best taco
Lol that meta was the exact same composition for every team too
combo#
Bap would probably replace brig and JQ for orisa/rein
that antiheal
creed is a coach yea
Current year goats would be something like lucio kiriko zarya rein dva
Looks like according to liquidpedia he's a coach
What's the no limits meta? 4 tanks 1 Lucio?
JQ Lucio Kiriko Zarya INSERT DEPENDS ON MAP
the last one would depend on map and playstyle
n rank
and skill level
probably
Zar is really good no matter the rank
not on the new patch
can someone carry me alot in unranked if so dm me
How do I find a team to play comp with?
Top 3 non-korean/cn players?
post the list after you have done it
i want to see this
I better see guxue at the top
dallas fuel
Oh yeah I knwo
Taimou Harryhook Talespin?
Where can I find teams to join?
If you're looking for an OWL team, I think you need to get good first
when was the last time you watched owl lol
And if I'm good
Just ask
anyone elses shop glitched with the shitty karate doomfist bundle?
2 days ago
Where do I find teams?
I got it 4 days in a row
then why did you say those names?
Because I asked for non Koreans and assumed you meant the older players
oh sorry
Best non Korean players are shy and leave
Best non-korean/CN?
cn?
Where do I find teams?
Chinese
Danteh maybe, off his flexibility
Draw pilgrim
Aspire is unironically up there
Really? Interesting choice. He is very flexible
Where do I find teams?
Gotta get good first
Yeah but how do I ask if I can join a team if I can't find teams
I wanna see Flats play in OWL
he would get toasted
Thanks for the absolute no help
You're welcome
hes that bad compared to the big guys?
Go join an open division team
of course
they are not on the same level
I want to see timthetatman join OWL
flats is a ranked CC
he wouldnt do good at all in owl
i dont think any ranked CCs would do good in owl
what is CC
He'd do better than chipsa imo
Exactly
How the heck did chipsa get in
what about Karqives
the only exception to CCs is 2018 xqc
Seagull was decent
would xqc be good rn if he came back to owl?
no
lowkey feel like hes washed
yeah figured
was he a popular cc during his time in owl?
you mean karq
Yes when he streamed
karq is on defiant right? as a cc
his YT is KarQives
karqives is his second channel name
nah
he was pro player first
content creator second
yeah that makes sense
karq is the channel name
yes
karqives is his second channel
as much as id like xqc in pro play again he doesnt have the mentality for it
i think
lmao I been going to his second channel this whole time
but very toxic i think
do you guys think they will add expansion teams this season?
no
no
yeah the main is very good
if s6 does well they might
its like 30 mill
but owl is not profitable
Xqc is years behind in terms of competition, not to mention you'd need a lot of practice which xqc won't do
iirc s2 was up to 60mill too
personally, the owl is kinda zzz
and with the yt deal ending
i dont think any team has made a profit in owl right ?
when does the yt deal end?
not even shock
did you see sparks fights? The houston Dallas fight?
shock
it ended this season
it was mad entertaining
maybe shock glads fuel seoul
top teams
so is owl always in debt?
have they? shocks spot was like 20 mill no?
no one but shock
with the same comps? zzz man, sorry just couldnt get into it
i heard that mid teams broke even
what do you expect lol
owl needs to be on twitch
but lower teams had large losses
pro teams to play mystery heroes?
you can pause twitch too
that is true
no you cant
you cannot rewatcht tho
you would have liked the beginning of london vs spark. Hadi was rein and backbone went bastion
it was funny
oh thats what they meant
on youtube im doing something i pause i come back 30 minutes later i can go back
i dont miss anything
was this during the finals tourney?
yt owns the owl streaming rights
if twitch just added that its good
losers round 4
thats kinda fire
no team made money
except shock
broke even
Why the hell OWL still YouTube only
last year
Youtube OWNS rights
exclusive deal
really
For this long ?
someday, hear me out, i personally would like to see an experimental game where you have to lock a character in
gamemode
it ends this next year
It's been 5 seasons
back to twitch
pick and ban would be cool too
twitch is immediate
are u sure shock has broke even @next mesa
almost immediate
they are not counting just prize money
they are the most popular team
worth quite a bit
Sponsorships, merch
has that popularity got them like $16million tho
i think fuel has the most sponsorships right
how much money was the grand prize?
and the most profitable ones
of this years owl
1mill
or was the prize just butterfingers
which is the 2nd smallest prizepool of any season
what 💀
Were butterfingers as egregious as cheezits ?
i dont think that gets taxed?
really?
it doesnt go to the team it goes to the players and coaches
yeah its different
the player salaries would get taxed tho
viol2t was crazy
viol2t isnt og he joined in s2
prize pools of s1-4 are this
Really? It feels like he played forever
been a spitfire fan since s1
Alright how many OGs are left?
yeahh you cuold still kinda count him as og
poko is og
carpe is og but hes going to val
fleta
twilight vio2lt danteh anamo hotba poko profit are only some of the veterans left
twilight viol2t were s2
any teams that did not play this year?
They’re still veterans
Not OG tho
then everyone who isnt a rookie classes as that lmao
OG aka beginning of season 1
My lord you guys don’t know what veterans means
Veterans too arbitrary. I'm looking for OGs
You can prob be a veteran and come from s3
At this point
yeah for esports veterans can be weirdly defined
any teams that didnt play this year for owl?
anamo architect carpe fate fearless fleta fury hotba izayaki kalios aimgod neko profit striker voiddanteh space diya poko - 18
every team plays every year
OWL shaves off quite a few years of your life
You have burn blue as your name but don’t know if any team didn’t play💀
All teams always play
ok? Its my first ow league what about it
guys
I missed the first few matches
@mossy cipher
I was working
so like yk how u got rewards for watching the grand finals and stuff
thnx man
yeah hes on valiant
The perseverance in that man
valiant doodoo team or are they just bad recently
Lmao why are fusion and valiant in the east region
I heard they switched to a diff game
there players dont live in the west?
idk
Diya had the longest loss steak of any player right? Still playing today
wasnt it to has more Apac teams
Ohhh
i forgot the actual reason
fusion players live in korea and valiant is a scummy org and sold their stuff to a chinese company like a month before the season started
so dropped their western roster
yeah i honestly forgot the reason
Poor Paris Eternal
whats apac mean?
asia pacific
thx
theyre becoming vegas eternal next year lmao
also masaa retired
like actually?
yes
Valiants twitter is filled with "today we lost against (insert team name) with a 0:3 GGS!"
lmfao
its like a robot is typing these
void is gone :(
that was last year
this year they were a bit more competitve
im scrolling through it byr yeah
bc they did in s1-3
kinda dumb
the name hasnt been changed tho
probably a chinese city
S5 Paris eternal was the meme team
most popular options are like .. beijing shenzhen wuhan
another one
this is sad
at least we only have to wait till s8 for him to be back maybe as a coach
you never know
void is dragons?
yea
yes
Yes
What team over all of its lifespan is worst of all time? I think Shanghai's 0-40 is balanced by it's championship so its not worst anymore
That would involve a lot of work
better then having a fake ahh team name
Think valiant are going back to the west at some point anyway
hopefully
Defiant was never bottom but always mid at best
Then should Philly change to a Korean city 
sure
whatever makes it more accurate
lol
75k of torontos 120k total prize money was this year
Crazy
theyve got the least earnings of any team so id say over the whole lifespan therye the worst
cant believe FDGOD went from T1 to T3
Take into account they wasn’t a team till season 2 though
So look at average earnings per year?
every team in s1 who was bottom 6 has earnt more than defiant since s2
are the tokens super delayed for anyone else?
Yes
mine capped at like 135 but I'm pretty sure I watched 30 hours
Welcome
LDN 1.2mill -> 1.4mill
NYXL 650k -> 1.5mill
PHI 525k -> 1.2mill
LAV 400k -> 540k
BOS 225k -> 250k
LAG 200k -> 1.5mill
HOU 75k -> 485k
SEO 75k -> 1.4mill
SFS 50k -> 4.3mill
DAL 50k -> 1.8mill
FLO 25k -> 280k
SHD 25k - 2.75mill
in the same time toronto has earnt 120k
so since s2
boston is the worst
then toronto, valiant, london, florida
Toronto are winning the chip next year anyways
Hello, how do we get the rewards for watching ow league ? I didn't get them in game
Wait so the justice are not the worst
I didn't check them
justice 305k
so yeah
not the worst
Yeah cause they made it deep in 2020 made playoffs 2021 and then made play ins this year
@karmic charm do you like study owl or are you just very knowledgeable
esports as a whole is one of my special interests so I'm knowledgeable on quite a few
then could you tell me how atlanta went a grand finals team to getting knocked out like first round
like did their players change alot?
they just weren't as good this year compared to last imo
especially changing from 6v6 to 5v5
they had a good roster on paper and just never really did anything with it
same with dragons (won owl last year and went out first)
so these teams are just struggling to make use of the 5v5 format?
Hero shifts and roster changes probably don't help. This meta was wildly more focused on sojurn players..
5v5 changed the game alot because the tank had to pick up both tank roles
idk, kai was good at sojourn no?
kai said on twitter he played like shit so idk
for the rest of the year he wasn't bad tho
who is floridas sojourn?
i was looking at their stats and they both had equal sojourn time so i didnt know
comparing propers stats to other dps is crazy to see the number differential
florida also had someone who's a great all around tank and a great winston, where as ATL was stuck with either Gator who didn't have a lot of play time or Hawk who never really picked up monke
does atlanta look like a team that could pick it back up next year
or is it still the shocks world
if the meta favors them they could easily be an upper tier team. If not they'll still probably be around mid unless roster changes shake up the league.
Admittedly there's probably a new tank and a new support before next season so the meta could shift wildly. If Ramata is super good and Hawk learns him well they're probably in a good spot though.
is hawk already a good tank player?
or was it just his winston that was lacking(this is my first owl season so i never thought about this stuff)
Which option affects ur sensitivy while u scope with widow
hawk is not a winston player
hawk is good but yeah, not a winston player
hawk is a good tank player
it's probably rascal at this point yeah
owl level at least
yeah rascal
2018 stage 1 2019 stage 2 2019 gf 2020 may melee 2020 countdown cup 2020 gf and 2022 gf
I need to go back to some of the older tourneys
post goats
I have vivid memories of hackfist being ridiculous
2022 SS too?
Rascal is that guy
5 vs 1 in comp bronze lol
Hard to believe he was chased out of Fuel at first. Won 2 champs on shock, and then came back to fuel for a championship
Iunno if anyone got directly kicked out just from slurs
It was recent
I remember reading something
That one guy who had a breakdown about streaming for money?
Hes in owl
Or something
Are you talking about Krystal or provide
Neither
That's the only two I can think of
Who
Dellor
Dellor was never part of OWL
Nvm then
Just some contenders,.maybe not even
He was never in pro OW
Like 3rd tier player
Gochya
I know provide got banned for say somethings to some under age girls
and no one wants to touch krystal with a 12 foot pole
undead had quite a few situations too
there's at least 4 former OWL players that likely cant get back into OWL due to the stuff they did
krystal only did a lil wage theft
I know a handful of exbos players were pedos
quite a few pesos
did you do the ranking
gimme ranking
ah
Aren't tokens supposed to come within 48 hours?
Got nothing since friday so probably on 15th they're giving them out with the skins
Aight
we keep talking about byron murphy
Rank
A lot of people prob want some free rewards after seeing the bundle prices
"LSD", "Levi" and I
note that probe and viper were memes
they were B and B+ respectively
I WATCHED LIKE 8 HOURS OF OWL AND I DONT HAVE MY REWARDS YET
First couple of teams might be off since "Bowol" was in
Same man, same
when will owl go live again?
Fearless a tier tank
i will read this later
Ldn is all B teir
This is awful
I need irl overwatch esports friends, some guys came into work today and they were talkin about the jets and shi
I dont watch any baseball or whatever
;-;
you're good
I am a Mercy main and I really hate Winston players who kill only this innocent angel. Come on, hit Genji, Sombra, or other Winston instead but, please, leave Mercy alone! 😦 It’s so very difficult to play while Winston hitting you as the electricity block the view so much. And, yeah, when I hear the jumps of the monkey and he saying “Hello there” it’s something like a real nightmare to me
I'm still missing a ton of tokens and skins from the play-offs. Let's hope I get them tomorrow lol
Same
I thing Val should higher they did better than some west teams
Last why no rating on Poko sparkr Landon admiral
They are good
theyre boosted by christfer
Still should have given them a boosted by Chris one and no Chris boost rating
how can u tell no chris boost
how can u tell if that translates to owl
since its not a ddirect translation
unlike krc which is just like more or less owl level
I dont think super rich should be Z tier
Then again I only saw this season
its a meme
Ohhh lol
Ldn was an actually good team
Sparkr was a bright spot last year yeah
I want to make an esports team (even though I don’t have a chance) and need players is anyone local to Margate,ramsgate or broadstairs
fuck off
🫡
Cool story but no one cares
shut up pat
i was already the rude one
no need to be rude to the poor guy twice
smh
Has anyone an idea why I got junker queen and kiriko league skins but haven’t even got my other skins yet, I haven’t even got my tokens yet too
I think you get them on the 15th
Weird because I already got two and I’m still waiting for the others
I’m still waiting for some of my skins and rewards
alr
Reasonable take imho
i agree
edison is
good at sojourn
at
and reaper
i wanted edi A
but hellfire went against it
also probe and viper were not memes
i gave hellfire the o2 rankings and thats what he chose
imo u just have too much NA bias
werent you simping for danteh the entirety of last off season
So Spitfire champions 2023?
W
I still think its Shy > Edison > Proper
Proper was good at taking edison out but edison would always take down the rest of shock
And shy was just on crack
Tbh
lip>>shy/proper>shy/proper>edison
imo
Lip?
lip is the guy that gapped proper
Proper got carried by FiNN I fear
shd
Shd
I started watching during the spark vs dallas fight
Some mid team that went out early
Didnt see anything before it
lip gigabutt knuckle fucked proper
lip is THE best hitscan player in the league
What team is lip
shanghai
shanghai
I only know of Dove
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watch the first two maps
Ill watch rn
Also SparkR best Sojourn these people are wrong
if u traded lip for kevster shu proper hanbin smurf it wouldnt be a good trade for shanghai
lip is my dad
Lip is their dad
shock should sign lip tbh
lip/proper would not be very fair
I watched ever single stream and got nothing lol
is it still racist in here
@cedar oasis isnt here so most likely
this most likely won't happen (I hope not) but I do wish there was a world cup so we could see those two together
it would be battle for 2nd place
fielder there for double fs
man had fearless over smurf
As they should
(chiyo zen not very good)
assuming a 5v5 world cup means 6 player max rosters, do you favour the back line flexibility or the tank flexibility more
When is next owl
Depends what the meta is at the time
probs february
So summer
Summer?
How does blizzard afford hosting like that
I do not believe chiyo would be as much of a detriment in double fs as hanbin would be in a winston/rein meta
You missed spring
Torb/Symm meta
🙏
How is blizzard able to just afford 1mill grand prizes
Who funds these either then blizz
edison has unbelievable peaks
edison's got magical peaks but he also has the best winston in the world on his team
Guxue isnt on dallas
billion dollar company
I don't think OWL will grow in popularity it was exciting when it came out but it doesn't seem like the big investment is paying off
Oh word
Yeah
also the prizes weren't that crazy this year
lip and proper were either doing more than edison or on the same level with worse teams around them
edison was doing air for the majority of the finals
Edison has an overall good team, lip and propers teams were holding em back
sparkle and fearless were both more consistent than him
Edison has Fearless, Proper has Coluge
Sparkle goat
mikey
Mikey was mid
played more I think
coluge didn't play at all in the finals
mikeyy/coluge winston eliminated fate/smurf/guxue
Guxue monke>>>
Yes he did
coluge played route against houston
you misspelled proper/proper
he did not play against dallas
What costed spark that win against shock?
shock were better at the meta
For the entire Lower bracket run, Mikey played the 1st map and Coluge played the rest
and for the houston game coluge played one map and for the finals coluge didn't play at all
shock/dallas were the only teams that could consistently run after and shut down enemy sojourns
i wasn't talking about the lower bracket run i was talking specifically about the finals
Dallas barely won, it came down to a few team fights
ong
shock lost by literally one team fight on esperanca
the chiyo incident...
Was it the one with Sparkle ult?
more like when shock wasted 3 ults and dallas just disengaged
yeah shock had a lot of ults and mikeyy decided to leave his team to chase chiyo
proper would slide into five and wouldn't die because finn and viol2t were right there
Chiyo scared me during the houston fight on checkpoint 2
Bro went in by himself being cheeky with boops
BRUH I WAS DYING ON OASIS
HE'S LITERALLY LIVES FOREVER
NOT EVEN DALLAS' FOCUS FIRE CAN KILL HIM
mildly interesting on if in the future kiriko's going to have to eat massive nerfs. Her ability to negate the repercussions of positioning errors like when proper would over-slide into shit positions can't be good long term.
Finn is the I my reason they won against London
shock didn't play london
London have never actually lost
London lost against spark wdym
No they actually donated the win
London if they keep the same core of players could do well next year
Spark match was close
Upgrade at OT
If it wasnt for shy then london could have gotten top 3
do you mean if they keep christfer theyll do well? cause I agree
christfer buff
He was the coach
Oh 💀
Thats why I didnt recognize him
have youi guys not gotten tokens for the finals yet either?
him and sparkr carried that roster
Yeah ive watched atleast 20-25 hrs but only have 40 tokens
proper was actually like
It wasn't even that much on Chris it was more like the players played together in tenders
proper was playing minecraft pvp at that range bro like
its been almost 48 hrs and they still havent come
dude was in their backline all the time it's insane
Wait till the 15th
Proper got pocketed as hell
Everytime bro was low he got suzud
Like once they got rid of the support he died
Agreed
I need that clip on Esperanca where he gets jumped on by fearless and just casually slides into the entire enemy team and goes down to like 13 hp
bro it was fucking insane
finn was so good
Yeah is bugged
Finn underated
finn easily kept pace with fielder the whole series imo
SFS plan was to pump stuff into proper and win
Draw who were you rootin for?
I mean that's how good sojourn is rn
i've been a shock fan since 2018
easily
I was never this deep into overwatch league but back in 2018 I liked glads cuz im from LA and dallas cuz the blue colors
lol
hydration biggoose shaz glads 🥶
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Honestly I'm excited about next season a lot of teams look bright ldn val van to name a few
Owl is more interesting then the game itself
Charge
the thing I like about banana rush though is like
your tank matters a crap ton
monkey is the 2nd most relevant hero
because they can actually contest the broken character
That's any comp ATM in OW2
because monkey is the one that can shut down the sojourn most 
well true
this is why I thought seoul would 3-1 dallas
but like you can actually watch really good monkey play and understand it even in a fast pace
I thought dallass was gonna struggle on seoul fight
cause last time fearless was in he was getting caught out so much
If you have a competent tank plus a competent support you can just win
getting primal value is actually so hard if you've played against kiriko
I hate playing against kirikos
because the character outheals your damage and gets a boon when you try to corner juggle
Also the new tank should be fun
can you imagine goats with kiriko
I wish they talked about his abilities more
I dont want to.
Id rather not
No
she fixes JQ's weaknesses
5v5 goats rein zarya dva lucio kiriko
but also counters jq

wait actually who would be the best goats team rn
We would have stage 3 of 2021 again
dallas probably
2 bubble zarya in goats monkaOMEGA
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