but this new meta is fun to play and watch imo
#esports-discussion
gritty python
frosty shell
yes if they get there shit together yes
keen abyss
in dive you set up and isolate and kill a target
wind wasp
Seems like pure dive to me
autumn trench
yes if they get there shit together yes
I pray
oblique drum
yes
frosty shell
i thought this was winston brawl
copper valley
is there a way to check how many hours ive watched
keen abyss
in this you just rush straight at them
upper hawk
i feel like anything where players stick together, everyone yells goats
its just sticking together
soft charm
I just feel like reaper and soj are boring characters to play and watch
oblique drum
i feel like anything where players stick together, everyone yells goats
it is so infuriating
static pond
in dive you set up and isolate and kill a target
Sounds like something Dallas did to spark
frosty shell
you sure its not brawl
soft charm
The most interesting thing ive seen so far is the fact that everyone got 3-0d the other day
gritty python
I just feel like reaper and soj are boring characters to play and watch
BRUH REAPER IS SO FUCKING FUN TO PLAY WYM
buoyant thistle
i feel like anything where players stick together, everyone yells goats
A brawl comp =/= goats and people seem to not understand this
autumn trench
Also, weren't Shanghai drags Garbo last year?
wind wasp
The most interesting thing ive seen so far is the fact that everyone got 3-0d th...
That was lame I wanted to see push maps
soft charm
BRUH REAPER IS SO FUCKING FUN TO PLAY WYM
Flank, ult, point blank shotgun people
Snooze fest
upper hawk
ow2 im finding really fun because a lot of fights end up being brawls
its rly enjoyable
soft charm
A 10 yr old can play reaper and do well
lapis lodge
anyone else only got the genji and tracer skin despite watching like 15+ hours
gritty python
if you play him boring then ofc it's going to be boring
karmic charm
Also, weren't Shanghai drags Garbo last year?
no?
lapis lodge
anyone else only got the genji and tracer skin despite watching like 15+ hours
also only 35 tokens
upper hawk
theres more chance for crazy flips
magic current
is mei also disabled for owl?
buoyant thistle
anyone else only got the genji and tracer skin despite watching like 15+ hours
It takes time borther
limpid grail
banana rush challenge
gritty python
you don't even need to flank with reaper
soft charm
if you play him boring then ofc it's going to be boring
I understand that
gritty python
just walk in with the rest of the team
buoyant thistle
is mei also disabled for owl?
Even if she wasnt she wont get played soo
upper hawk
LETS GOOOOOOO GLAAAAADS
soft charm
I replied to the wrong thing
limpid grail
I don't mind joats because overhealth trading is funny
upper hawk
soft charm
Explain to me how playin reaper is fun
frosty shell
I don't mind joats because overhealth trading is funny
soft charm
karmic charm
Weren't they like last going into playoffs?
they were first seed in apac
limpid grail
or rather
I can call it joats because overhealth trading is funny
gritty python
Explain to me how playin reaper is fun
you never die
upper hawk
SHIELDS UP
frosty shell
Explain to me how playin reaper is fun
Q no die ez
karmic charm
1st seed in all the league * mb
lapis lodge
Explain to me how playin reaper is fun
simple and easy to play. big dmg but hard to master
autumn trench
they were first seed in apac
Must be thinking of a different year
soft charm
Q no die ez
Thats not fun lmao
limpid grail
if you think reaper isn't fun
broken zephyr
Explain to me how playin reaper is fun
bladebey
limpid grail
I'm confused
gritty python
spamming shotgun is fun
limpid grail
killing things is pretty fun to me
gritty python
it's fun in every game
frosty shell
hes not fun i like him because hes edgy
gritty python
it's just so cancer is in other games
keen abyss
it is funny seeing people call this dive
soft charm
I find spamming shotguns boring
gritty python
but reaper is easily counterable
buoyant thistle
Being able to duel tanks is pretty fun in OW2 considering how tanks are usually untouvhable walls
gritty python
so he's balanced
frosty shell
winston does not = dive guys mind blown
gritty python
ez
upper hawk
BRO BOT TIME
soft charm
reaper takes brains thats why it isn't fun
Are u silver
gritty python
winston does not = dive guys mind blown
ok but winston kiriko lucio does lol
broken zephyr
Are u silver
no im bronze
lapis lodge
reaper got a free out of jail card every couple of seconds bruh
buoyant thistle
winston does not = dive guys mind blown
Lucio+winston so has to be dive right?
Jk
frosty shell
PUSH COLLESIO MATCH POINT COME ON MY BOYS DO THIS
upper hawk
put your forrest gump hats on btches this bot be runnin
dense dune
Godamn colloseo is beautiful
buoyant thistle
Godamn colloseo is beautiful
Too bad its a rush map
gritty python
i love colloseo but i hate playing on it
dense dune
Too bad its a rush map
Trueee
gritty python
although playing widow on colloseo is fucking fun
dense dune
Idk man I think push is Ok. Certainly not 2CP but 
autumn trench
1st seed in all the league * mb
Think I was thinking of 2019 season but the fuel were worse then
soft charm
no im bronze
Are u actually
buoyant thistle
Idk man I think push is Ok. Certainly not 2CP but <:shrug:958783623539064852>
I dont despise rush, its just that i prefer everything else
gritty python
and better competitively i think
upper hawk
kev i swear.
karmic charm
ok finally a normal comp from LA
glads cant play reaper lmao
gritty python
KEVSTER LMAOOOO
frosty shell
kevster hates reaper
upper hawk
i know 😦
autumn trench
Why are glads always switching sides
buoyant thistle
Ok then. Glads got fucking swept right there
upper hawk
how can someone not play reaper its FKING WINSTON AIM
static pond
Expected kev to be good at reaper tbh
keen abyss
it is looking like glads is just not a rush team
wind wasp
Kevster on soj happy on rearper
frosty shell
kevster was fine on reaper no?
karmic charm
it is looking like glads is just not a rush team
one compliment. it doesnt hurt to give london one compliment
upper hawk
i wish they wouldve won with SPACE as a starter. he deserves better
static pond
Space ass
upper hawk
HOL UP KEV GOT AN ULT KILL
buoyant thistle
one compliment. it doesnt hurt to give london one compliment
Yea this guy is dedicated to blaming his own team and not saying london is actually decent
static pond
Don’t think space even got a chance to play tbh
karmic charm
Yea this guy is dedicated to blaming his own team and not saying london is actua...
hes been like this for weeks, said london was like bottom 5 in the league
upper hawk
are they really gonna drop to losers like this
gritty python
kev does NOT look happy about getting solo ulted LMAOOO
upper hawk
cmon dude...
static pond
He’s a off tank
gritty python
are they really gonna drop to losers like this
wait you think london is actually losers
upper hawk
yeah true hes amazing at sig
i dont think london is bad
im just tired of la shitting the bed
gritty python
they literally won yesterday and they're about to win again
karmic charm
cant wait for the desk to go "glads underperformed" and not say "london played well"
autumn trench
cant wait for the desk to go "glads underperformed" and not say "london played w...
XD
keen abyss
i think glads are trying to play a rush comp
autumn trench
cant wait for the desk to go "glads underperformed" and not say "london played w...
I think both are true imo
gritty python
i feel bad for kev he gets plenty of picks but rest of his team is getting rolled on
keen abyss
as if it's dive
upper hawk
BACKBONE FK
gritty python
OH BACKBONE
upper hawk
damn
buoyant thistle
Wtf is with glad switching sides
karmic charm
I think both are true imo
sure, but london never gets respected
gritty python
FUCKING CRACKED
upper hawk
nice dude
wind wasp
Q easy
frosty shell
bro happy dies 
amber quail
this reaper diff is costing glads lmao
frosty shell
HE DIED WITH Ullt 4 times
gritty python
his facecam before that alt i'm dead 🤣
autumn trench
sure, but london never gets respected
Tru
vocal glacier
lol reaper is so silly in against the current lineups
upper hawk
yeah it really is the reaper diff
gritty python
backbone has been diffing all playoffs so far
frosty shell
upper hawk
4 god damn minutes
dense dune
Holy shit this is a sweep 💀
upper hawk
if they cant turn tis around
gritty python
reaper ult is such a game changer
upper hawk
then they dont deserv eit
dense dune
Reiner????
oblique drum
if they cant turn tis around
Agreed
buoyant thistle
if they cant turn tis around
I wamt this to be turned around just to see another 3-2
gritty python
holy shit how did london not kill reiner there wtf
frosty shell
upper hawk
gritty python
he was literally like 50HP
autumn trench
I wamt this to be turned around just to see another 3-2
That's what I'm saying
autumn trench
Welp
karmic charm
gg
karmic charm
@keen abyss they deserve respect.
autumn trench
Gg
upper hawk
ggs. london too good
amber quail
Tay Zonday the most loyal OWL fan <3
upper hawk
rolled.
autumn trench
Who is glads going against in losers bracket?
vocal glacier
oof
hollow bough
:|
vocal glacier
buoyant thistle
Holy fuck they capped
karmic charm
Who is glads going against in losers bracket?
philly
keen abyss
<@233040697563807755> they deserve respect.
disagree
upper hawk
holy shit.
wind wasp
Wow
left lava
WHA
hollow bough
gg
limpid grail
supa
dense dune
wow. what a sweep
brave sinew
well damn
limpid grail
how's it going
worn falcon
LOL
nocturne knoll
Wwowwwwww
limpid grail
now is Philly good or bad
karmic charm
Philly good or bad?
they got rolled by london aswell
brave sinew
kevster really trying to make that tracer work
autumn trench
Damn
keen abyss
now is Philly good or bad
philly is still dogshit
upper hawk
glads WERENT that bad. london was THAT GOOD
oblique drum
Glads need to sort themselves out
limpid grail
trueing
upper hawk
kevster was that bad tho...
wind wasp
kevster really trying to make that tracer work
He got that one good pulse
karmic charm
glads WERENT that bad. london was THAT GOOD
thank u
limpid grail
Philly is horrendous sometimes
autumn trench
Welp ggs an gn
brave sinew
He got that one good pulse
just one 😭
limpid grail
I get why sans is so mad
oblique drum
He got that one good pulse
And they lost that map
keen abyss
the doomfist and the tracer
brave sinew
gn guys see ya in another glads match
keen abyss
show that glads are trying to play dive
wind wasp
And they lost that map
Cuz the other 5 did a total of 0
keen abyss
when this is a very rush meta
autumn trench
See y'all next glads match
autumn trench
Upset crazy
upper hawk
we'll get em in losers 😢
keen abyss
london going to win it all
dallas/seoul grand finals
karmic charm
london can beat houston
upper hawk
everyones brackets exploded at this point
cinder marlin
waiting for the reiner tweet
vocal glacier
dallas/seoul grand finals
probably but it's time to meme cuz glads choked/london played very well.
oblique drum
<:LosAngelesGladiators:378569494932619264> we'll get em in losers 😢
Well if they’re playing Philly they’re still in then
brave sinew
whos glads going to face in lower?
frosty shell
dallas/seoul grand finals
yep
wind wasp
My bracket still good I just picked my fav colours I'm doing fine
buoyant thistle
london can beat houston
Out of the games i've seen (which arent many honestly) london and houston look the best
frosty shell
ROAR ON for finals ggs
brave sinew
My bracket still good I just picked my fav colours I'm doing fine
AIN'T NO FUCKING WAY BRUH 😭😭
tropic herald
@keen abyss yo
impressive that the devs managed to make a 0 skill meta dont even call this salty cause its legitimately true. you see teams like glads shock and reign dropping maps and series to teams that should never be able to touch them and its really the only conclusion you can come to
keen abyss
impressive that the devs managed to make a 0 skill meta dont even call this salty cause its legitimately true. you see teams like glads shock and reign dropping maps and series to teams that should never be able to touch them and its really the only conclusion you can come to
vocal glacier
holy shit 45 kiriko assists
limpid grail
12k per 10
soft charm
Landon built like me frfr
limpid grail
😱
lone wyvern
"Kuh-reek-o"
limpid grail
impressive that the devs managed to make a 0 skill meta dont even call this salty cause its legitimately true. you see teams like glads shock and reign dropping maps and series to teams that should never be able to touch them and its really the only conclusion you can come to
it's actually hilarious how all three of those teams are in lower bracket now
vocal glacier
impressive that the devs managed to make a 0 skill meta dont even call this salt...
it's basically a fundamentals meta. Similar to GOATs where teams that play the basics well in deathball win and those that were probably relying on certain skill diffs struggle a bit more.
upper hawk
nah they just made a meta to feature the new toons sojourn and kiriko
keen abyss
it's basically a fundamentals meta. Similar to GOATs where teams that play the ...
impressive that the devs managed to make a 0 skill meta dont even call this salty cause its legitimately true. you see teams like glads shock and reign dropping maps and series to teams that should never be able to touch them and its really the only conclusion you can come to
buoyant thistle
impressive that the devs managed to make a 0 skill meta dont even call this salt...
Damn then glads/shock/reign must be awful if they cant play such a low skill mrta
brave sinew
Damn then glads/shock/reign must be awful if they cant play such a low skill mrt...
nah the meta is just bad fr
lone wyvern
nah they just made a meta to feature the new toons sojourn and kiriko
Pour one out for my Queen
upper hawk
queen just doesnt have enough sadly
brave sinew
goofy ahh rush reaper brawl meta
lone wyvern
And next season will probably be dominated by Mauga
brave sinew
queen just doesnt have enough sadly
tb when shout was broken
limpid grail
if shout was 12 I'd love life
earnest leaf
impressive that the devs managed to make a 0 skill meta dont even call this salt...
the meta is very boring
reaper brawl
I sleep
dense dune
tb when shout was broken
Shout needs more shield boost imho
brave sinew
Shout needs more shield boost imho
no let it sleep PLEASE
keen abyss
the meta is very boring
rush meta sadly
limpid grail
Cole?
vocal glacier
torb
limpid grail
borb
brave sinew
okay but replace reaper with anyone
i mean they tried but still lost soo
keen abyss
the only fun rush meta
vocal glacier
keen abyss
was sym mei rush
dense dune
no let it sleep PLEASE
tropic herald
I don’t even think meta is solved just everyone too scared to divert
brave sinew
this isn't flank meta anymore lmao
limpid grail
meicree clears, sadly
brave sinew
mei got disabled kekw
earnest leaf
I don’t even think meta is solved just everyone too scared to divert
yea they had 5 days to practice this patch
limpid grail
Danteh's 5 day Winston tbh
tropic herald
Reaper being hard meta just doesn’t make sense
brave sinew
mei cant freeze anymore
^
limpid grail
it makes a lot of sense though
upper hawk
who needs a slow
tropic herald
No
vocal glacier
I don’t even think meta is solved just everyone too scared to divert
leaks were like a week and a half ago so probably the teams that were locked into playoffs were playing it for almost 2 weeks now? 
tropic herald
He shouldn’t be played every map
brave sinew
Reaper being hard meta just doesn’t make sense
literally no skill heroes being the meta is cringe
limpid grail
he doesn't die
has immortality
has self heals
can reposition
and checks monkey bubble
he also has 250 hp
tropic herald
He has shit vertically
brave sinew
exactly
brave sinew
He has shit vertically
hence there is no vertical heroes
limpid grail
at least he HAS verticality
worn falcon
Soj loves monke bubbles
tropic herald
There just is no way he actually should be played every map
static pond
Sounds like glads fans not getting there way
brave sinew
sadly he's too good
brave sinew
Sounds like glads fans not getting there way
shut
vocal glacier
He has shit vertically
better than most of the dps..
limpid grail
I crafted
worn falcon
Shock fans > glads fans /jk
alpine verge
Spitfire on top we are still winning everything
tropic herald
Teams are just too scared not to play one comp
upper hawk
_>
tropic herald
Bc it’s playoffs
vocal glacier
Bc it’s playoffs
they've got like 2 weeks-ish on it. There's solid odds this is probably pretty meta. Maybe there's a counter pick comp that's meta like Zarya ended up being to dva dive.
tropic herald
Yea the meta isn’t solved
brave sinew
they just stuck to whatever works most of the time
tropic herald
they've got like 2 weeks-ish on it. There's solid odds this is probably pretty ...
You think they were actually practicing this for 2 weeks?
upper hawk
kinda rough settling a meta with new toons unlocking and new patches dropping
static pond
If it was the zarya meta glads would fall to Dallas or Huston imo
vocal glacier
You think they were actually practicing this for 2 weeks?
teams that were locked in probably were.
keen abyss
Teams are just too scared not to play one comp
what do you play into this
brave sinew
OPR was only updated last Monday
LMAOOO
keen abyss
doesnt look live dive works
static pond
So glads are a dive team?
vocal glacier
OPR was only updated last Monday
?? did something change i though custom modes were still a thing on OPR so teams could just make their own mini-patch.
tropic herald
what do you play into this
On more vertical maps playing reaper should be easier to punish
upper hawk
i think a quick switch could shut down a dive FAST with the dmg output in this OW
karmic charm
london wins finals
buoyant thistle
Yea the meta isn’t solved
Im convinced there's something to rein/bastion against this rush meta. Reign ran it for a few teamfights and won 2 teamfights in a row until they got out ulted, then just gave up on it even though it was actually performing.
static pond
??
keen abyss
yeah landon is explaining it best
tropic herald
?? did something change i though custom modes were still a thing on OPR so teams...
Pretty sure they were just ducking around w live patch
keen abyss
i saw it on maps like eich and dorado
karmic charm
this happens (real)
upper hawk
Rein cant sustain enough i dont think. against reaper constantly
not with kiriko lucio
youd need more heals
tropic herald
Gunba explained it well in his interview
If the pick is good a decent amount of the time in an environment like playoffs there’s no reason to not just one trick it
No point in trying other things unless you don’t have the pieces for the comp
Even if it turns out to not be meta
vocal glacier
even if you find the counter other teams will probably just mirror it
static pond
Just play what your best at imo
frosty shell
yeah landon is explaining it best
iget it now
tropic herald
So this “meta” comp being good even just like half the time means that it will just be played all the time bc learning multiple comps is too much of a risk when you can just be good at one
karmic charm
my god desk try not to excuse londons win always (challenge impossible)
frosty shell
i had no idea how this meta was till now
vocal glacier
Just play what your best at imo
between subs and what not teams can build pretty much any team comp and be best at it.
earnest leaf
mickey mouse meta sadly
frosty shell
WINSTON RUSH
tropic herald
It’s just really hard to believe that reaper is truly the best flex dps pick by a mile rn
tropic herald
No, other dps are good on other map types
vocal glacier
LA's problem is they got food poisoning clearly.
tropic herald
No point in getting off reaper for those maps if he’s just the best on most map types
frosty shell
tropic herald
In this playoffs because teams only had
5 days or some shit
Some less
Some more
:)
novel linden
I damn hope outlaws get the win
lapis lodge
0.7 oclock kills 💀
tropic herald
The rein shit is cheese
static pond
I’m honestly curious why kev didn’t learn reaper
vocal glacier
bastion zen is clearly the best answer.
frosty shell
i am thinking this meta would have evolved but its finals
static pond
Because I feel like kev would be very good on him
limpid grail
monkey cannot jump turret bastion because ironclad + bastion moment
if everyone else just plays normally, bastion does this amazing thing where he forces everyone to play behind cover or get randomly melted
no it's s2
vocal glacier
evolved to what exactly? we might lose reaper, but otherwise the rest is pretty optimal.
limpid grail
there's no specific reason to not run lucio in a rush meta
static pond
With zarya and dva nerf Winston the best pick rn imo
tropic herald
Id assume on maps with longer sight lines you’d see less and less of the Lucio shit
limpid grail
well yes
static pond
Yup
frosty shell
lucio defines rush
limpid grail
junkertown today had some different stuff
keen abyss
i wonder if glads would be better at this meta if they'd qualified for SS
frosty shell
there is no rush without lucio
vocal glacier
kiriko ult's a no-brainer and sojurns still busted pretty much reaper's the only questionable and it clearly works.
limpid grail
I wonder if glads would've qualified for SS if they tried subbing
frosty shell
yes i hear hog is not bad in this meta
limpid grail
who is lying to you
vocal glacier
You would see Orisa or hog
Orissa? why she's garbage at assaulting or even holding high ground.
static pond
?
frosty shell
in owl maybe not
static pond
Someone tried it
tropic herald
Orissa? why she's garbage at assaulting or even holding high ground.
Did you read my qualifier
frosty shell
ladder probably
tropic herald
Or
static pond
And feed a lot
limpid grail
orisa is not garbage at holding high ground imo
frosty shell
kiriko enables hog
vocal glacier
Did you read my qualifier
buddy i'm a 
fan of course i can't read.
limpid grail
no it was Houston
tropic herald
Multiple teams have run hog
limpid grail
shock "matched"
frosty shell
yeah idk what hog is for tho
limpid grail
in reality the reason being that if there is no ana
tropic herald
Hog simply just
limpid grail
monkey cannot contest hog alone
frosty shell
yes no ana
tropic herald
Has most of his weaknesses negated by having a Kiriko
static pond
Hog is just a feed character imo
frosty shell
hook is scary tho
static pond
With a big hit box
limpid grail
if you go back to yesterday and watch Busan Houston vs Toronto you'll see exactly why hog is not a throw pick
frosty shell
if you have coordination
static pond
And slowness
limpid grail
like he literally beats the crap out of nearly every tank
frosty shell
hes good for hook and his ult tbh
limpid grail
he just dies too fast to do so
and his 20m instakill circle is hard for kiriko to react to
also bacon rush kills everything
the reason why hog is bad is simple
karmic charm
esperanca is in map pool??
tropic herald
Kiriko just does so much
limpid grail
but hook is also equally stupid
tropic herald
She is simply just new wave brig
limpid grail
therefore hook the tank and deal a crap ton of healing resources out of the enemy hands
tropic herald
She will change the gameplay forever
frosty shell
She is simply just new wave brig
s uzu needs a nerf bad
SUZU IS BUSTED
12 secounds
for that impact is bs
vocal glacier
She will change the gameplay forever
if they nerf the shit out of her ult she'd probably dissappear quickly enough..
frosty shell
i play kiriko but i even think it sbs
frosty shell
her ult charges to fast imo
frosty shell
idk she needs some balance changes
vocal glacier
It’s not really about the numbers
definitely is, if her ult was like 10% CD instead of 50 or w/e and like 10% fire speed and movement speed..
tropic herald
She’s another Sombra
static pond
Yes
frosty shell
but the only issue is if you do more then change numbers shes useless
tropic herald
Her kit is just flawed in that
static pond
With a immortality field
static pond
And 130 headshot
tropic herald
If not meta
static pond
And a speed boost
tropic herald
She is useless
tropic herald
I know
limpid grail
overwatch players get numbers right challenge (hard)
tropic herald
But her kit is just built in a way
limpid grail
headshot is 120
suzu is 15
have you played the character
tropic herald
That is tough
frosty shell
suzu is 13
tropic herald
To make balanced
frosty shell
yes ik
limpid grail
counting challenge (equally hard)
tropic herald
No idea how the ult is even on live as is
frosty shell
i love the hero id hate to see her go trash can
because how do you nerf her ult were its not shit
vocal glacier
definitely doesn't need to be 10secs either
tame hill
damn, why are there so many more west teams than east teams in OWL?
frosty shell
gutting a hero is not a solution
vocal glacier
the west teams are often funded by a mixture of east and west investors and have eastern players.
frosty shell
genji did not need anerf
static pond
Yes it is
atomic lotus
Why do I watch like 2 hours or maybe even three hours and only get 5 league tokens?
atomic lotus
i dissagree on genji nerf
Same
static pond
Genji nerf was to much imo
frosty shell
yeah
karmic charm
damn, why are there so many more west teams than east teams in OWL?
its a bit misleading
static pond
Less Damage and less in a clip
frosty shell
and the make a new hero impossible to balance
vocal glacier
the characters so wildly janky it's probably better when he's out of meta.
frosty shell
like soj and kiriko
karmic charm
8 western teams are majority eastern players
static pond
Thing is
lapis lodge
Why do I watch like 2 hours or maybe even three hours and only get 5 league toke...
i have watched 17 hours bro and only got 35 tokens and the first 3 hour skins
frosty shell
even jq they nerfed her now look
static pond
They have to make the new hero’s op
frosty shell
shes shit
static pond
For the battle pass
frosty shell
the jq nerf made them scared to nerf soj
static pond
Because new players will want them right away
atomic lotus
i have watched 17 hours bro and only got 35 tokens and the first 3 hour skins
I’ve watched around 15 and gotten no skins even if I watch all the streams I don’t think I can get all the skins not even half of them cuz blizzard decides to make the event on YouTube
keen abyss
when was the last time they released a hero that wasnt broken
keen abyss
hammond?
karmic charm
glads outdated shock overrated long have we waited spitfire activated
vocal glacier
sojurn sorta? she was mediocre in their original testing than wasn't picked for a while and was buffed iirc?
tropic herald
when was the last time they released a hero that wasnt broken
Technically sojourn depending on what you mean by release
karmic charm
when was the last time they released a hero that wasnt broken
bap wasnt broken on release no?
vocal glacier
and blizz still isn't touching her they just like her being meta or whatever.
tropic herald
Twitter
static pond
Lmao
vocal glacier
i hope the meta changes i love playin monke but he's looking so dominant outside of control they'll probably have to nerf him.
keen abyss
Technically sojourn depending on what you mean by release
what buffs did she get
vocal glacier
increased charge rate, high charge hitbox size and i think there was some CD changes iirc?
tropic herald
what buffs did she get
In alpha her rail was always at max width
karmic charm
tropic herald
In beta
static pond
Oh I remember those
tropic herald
Her rail was always at min width
keen abyss
I feel like she wasn’t that bad before that
tropic herald
Then they made her rail change depending on charge
keen abyss
soldier was just heavily outclassing her because he was broken
static pond
I thought railgun got a buff
karmic charm
Dev Notes:
Sojourn has been a little weak since her initial addition to the roster. While this change doesn’t seem huge, increasing her rate of fire increases her alternate fire charge rate and ultimate gain, as well as purely increasing her primary fire’s raw DPS.
karmic charm
yeah that was around stage 1 of owl right?
tame hill
the *west* teams are often funded by a mixture of east and west investors and ha...
gotcha. When they play for a team do they actually live in that city?
tropic herald
No dmg falloff visor
karmic charm
not all
tropic herald
With dps speed passive
static pond
I think shock does and LA glads
keen abyss
gotcha. When they play for a team do they actually live in that city?
depends some teams have their bases in their cities
and the players live in the base
static pond
Dragons do
karmic charm
ie. LAValiant doesnt live in LA, London not in london and paris not in paris
tropic herald
Shock plays from LA
static pond
Oh nvm
tropic herald
Most teams play from their city
novel linden
i hope Houston wins against London
vocal glacier
ok then that tells me a lot
there were goals and shit to make it more like actual sports with arenas and everything but it was wildly stupid so teams are named after cities
tropic herald
Minus a few
karmic charm
there were goals and shit to make it more like actual sports with arenas and eve...
this was actually going to happen but covid
tame hill
oooh so it's like a gamer's gym they live in? Even the older guys?
static pond
Paris still probably getting the name change
tropic herald
Valiant Philly London Paris SF don’t play from their city
tropic herald
Generally each team plays from a facility of some kind and they have apartments
tame hill
there were goals and shit to make it more like actual sports with arenas and eve...
haha I'm sure that was complicating things. everything is digital. no need to really live in the city the team represents. it's just a shirt haha
limpid grail
Toronto my goats imo
I can head up there any time and overactive media will hook me up
also there's a lot of fun stuff they do
karmic charm
haha I'm sure that was complicating things. everything is digital. no need to re...
it was more going to be teams would travel like weekly or biweekly and play in proper arenas on LAN
static pond
I think Philly was playing near t1 base
keen abyss
today would have been worst case scenario if houston hadn’t won god bless houston
limpid grail
original plan was absolutely scuffed
tropic herald
The homestand plan would’ve killed players
tame hill
Generally each team plays from a facility of some kind and they have apartments
super interesting. thanks!
limpid grail
also money down the drain imo
keen abyss
at least shock lost 🙏
karmic charm
today would have been worst case scenario if houston hadn’t won god bless housto...
london wins either way
tame hill
it was more going to be teams would travel like weekly or biweekly and play in p...
that's pretty much what the league tournaments are right?
karmic charm
that's pretty much what the league tournaments are right?
nah
keen abyss
I read this as a dive meta originally so I thought Dallas was gonna be shit
static pond
The teams would be on buses like all the time
keen abyss
sadly it is brawl
tame hill
nah
well not any more. that was the plan for esports in general. to make it more like an actual sport.
vocal glacier
original plan never made any sense and there's all sorts of rumors about original investors being promised way more shti than blizzard had infastructure for.
karmic charm
many esports play from 1 set and travel internationally for premier events
tropic herald
Would be insane
tame hill
OWL is international
whoa didn't know that
oh wait, I did know that. I just don't know how often they travel for tournaments
karmic charm
this season was
tame hill
I'll look at the events
tropic herald
The home stand model would’ve had travel nearly every week
vocal glacier
The home stand model would’ve had travel nearly every week
how would it even work for eastern league? Like a good chunk of west is US based so you can just travel like baseball teams. But East hass so many passports involved.
tame hill
The home stand model would’ve had travel nearly every week
damn that's too much!
vocal glacier
it's not too wild. Just OWL has really long seasons.
tame hill
who is like the Faker of OWL?
vocal glacier
for CSGO teams in eastern EU it wasn't weird to be traveling like every week or two before covid/the war. Just they had more breaks so it would be like 1-2 months of crazy travel 1-2 months more restful.
keen abyss
are we at the point where zarya meta was the best late season meta
static pond
Probably super
keen abyss
that’s so sad
tame hill
ok i'm going to check him out
static pond
Super retired now tho
vocal glacier
are we at the point where zarya meta was the best late season meta
before fuel started smashing everyone' face with lucio+bap zarya the meta was pretty okay.
static pond
Hated zarya meta tbh
karmic charm
The home stand model would’ve had travel nearly every week
yeah, and it was ALOT of travel
https://twitter.com/FionnOnFire/status/1212807011848470529 this is from 2020
vocal glacier
d.va, Winston, sigma had multiple valid tanks, Supports were mostly lucio+zen or ana, and DPS was basically sojurn/tracer/sombra/genji depending on map so there was variance.
tame hill
Super retired now tho
oooh, if he retired who is the best that's currently playing?
static pond
Uh
karmic charm
who is like the Faker of OWL?
there isnt one really
static pond
For dps lip
fierce elbow
who is like the Faker of OWL?
Super
karmic charm
super isnt the faker of owl
static pond
Duh he retired now
keen abyss
before fuel started smashing everyone' face with lucio+bap zarya the meta was pr...
only bad metas this year were brawl metas
karmic charm
super only played owl for 3 seasons
vocal glacier
nobod'y OWL faker's since faker's got a bunch of world wins and is pretty much always a quarter finalist.
fierce elbow
who is like the Faker of OWL?
But please don’t compare anyone in the OWL to our lord and savior Faker; he’s just too great to handle that level of embarrassment /srs
static pond
Closes is super imo
keen abyss
super only played owl for 3 seasons
I mean he played stage 4 s1
karmic charm
I mean he played stage 4 s1
3 seasons and 10 games, mb
static pond
Since he was very popular
tame hill
But please don’t compare anyone in the OWL to our lord and savior Faker; he’s ju...
hahahaha
karmic charm
if anyone is to be the "faker" its profit
vocal glacier
faker's just a freak. Most esports never have someone dominate that consistently for that long.
static pond
Profit ass
karmic charm
profit has been consistent for 5 seasons in owl
static pond
Faker still very good
karmic charm
made playoffs every season
keen abyss
profit has been consistent for 5 seasons in owl
?
tame hill
faker's just a freak. Most esports never have someone dominate that consistentl...
well esports is still relatively young
static pond
And improve his style
keen abyss
made playoffs every season
2021
vocal glacier
well esports is still relatively young
between fighters, and games like CSGO and quake it's like 25ish years now.
karmic charm
i didnt rly care for 2021
tame hill
if anyone is to be the "faker" its profit
ooooh he's a tracer main too!
vocal glacier
mang0 in melee is close i guess.
keen abyss
profit has been consistently b tier for the past 3 seasons
static pond
Real
dark hedge
Wait how did london diff glads lmfao
karmic charm
Wait how did london diff glads lmfao
bc london is a good team
static pond
Reaper diff
keen abyss
hive mind brawl style meta
tame hill
<:ReaperShrug:585666074452688896> between fighters, and games like CSGO and quak...
i guess technically you're not wrong.
dark hedge
Glads is also a good team
keen abyss
glads are the #1 dive team
and were trying to play this meta like dive
from what I could tell
next mesa
no he hasnt
He is extremely dumb
dark hedge
Wait whats the meta rn
karmic charm
He is extremely dumb
yeah ive noticed this
next mesa
Imo
keen abyss
He is extremely dumb
profit simp cope sadly
dark hedge
Winton reaper soujourn kiri lucio?
tame hill
Wait whats the meta rn
yeah what is the meta rn?
next mesa
Waste of time, etc
tame hill
Winton reaper soujourn kiri lucio?
oh this?
keen abyss
yeah what is the meta rn?
kiriko Winston reaper brawl
vocal glacier
Winton reaper soujourn kiri lucio?
pretty much. There might be a different comp on king of the hill.
karmic charm
profit simp cope sadly
cope
dark hedge
Ok so between this and joats glads suck at brawl
keen abyss
yeah
static pond
Ya pretty much
tame hill
pretty much. There might be a different comp on king of the hill.
this meta come from a website or from just watching the OWL matches?
karmic charm
london looks like a top 3 team rn
static pond
Watching
keen abyss
I’ve heard that glads are a very good team with prep time
dark hedge
Did london force rein or did they play meta
keen abyss
which checks out considering
tame hill
forgot about zzzz brawl comps
a brawl comp?
vocal glacier
Did london force rein or did they play meta
played meta
static pond
There playing on a different patch
keen abyss
slow start kc but undeniable best team by the end
dark hedge
Damn
keen abyss
midseason madness momentum from kc
static pond
Miss tracer and genji
vocal glacier
genji meta's suck in pro play.
static pond
And some widow
dark hedge
Imagine if glads and shock both go 0-2
keen abyss
cope
this also applied to CC meta
because we had no clue what playoffs would look like
keen abyss
god I’d hope glads aren’t boomed enough to lose to carpe
static pond
I rather see kev on reaper tbh
keen abyss
like I think if every team had another week to scrim
karmic charm
keen abyss
glads would be fine
vocal glacier
the memes if gladiators just get shafted completely by the BS meta patch will be fantastic
static pond
Happy sojun is very good imo
keen abyss
the memes if gladiators just get shafted completely by the BS meta patch will be...
wouldn’t be the first time
owl has a tendency to release silly patches before playoffs
vocal glacier
dude the OW1 hog patch was wild
static pond
Didn’t they screw over nyxl during season 1
keen abyss
and teams don’t have time to actually get good at the patch
static pond
With the hanzo rework
keen abyss
so the playoffs becomes disappointing
karmic charm
Didn’t they screw over nyxl during season 1
nyxl just wasnt as good at the end of s1
vocal glacier
finally getting around to watching houston vs toronto. Why the fuck was toronto sending kiriko to flank in the middle of nowhere all the time.
keen abyss
but the hanzo heavily shifted the power rankings
static pond
Ya
keen abyss
similar things happened in 2019 and 2020
keen abyss
glads were a strong goats team but double shield role lock had them fucked
shanghai and Philly were amazing in 2020
but their tanks couldn’t play hog well
static pond
Ya sadly
keen abyss
2021 was the only playoffs that showed actual skill expression
with shanghai ball comp
because the meta actually had time to develop
instead of every team clinging onto one comp because they have no time to practice
and are scared to deviate
every playoffs has been underwhelming
static pond
Now blizzard killed dragons by dropping ow2 on season 5
keen abyss
besides 2020
2021 was underwhelming because Atlanta cleaned up the good teams that were boomed by shanghai
static pond
Ya
vocal glacier
they should release a second patch in-between quarter and semi finals jsut to mess with people more.
static pond
Dragons were just to good imo
karmic charm
they should release a second patch in-between quarter and semi finals jsut to me...
that has got to be the worst idea ever
static pond
So was lip sombra
keen abyss
honestly
vocal glacier
that has got to be the worst idea ever
so there's solid odds blizzard might do it?
keen abyss
I think it would’ve been fine if they just hadn’t released kiriko into playoffs
static pond
Sadly we’re never seeing lip mvp skin
fierce elbow
faker's just a freak. Most esports never have someone dominate that consistentl...
Easily the Michael Jordan of League
static pond
I think it would’ve been fine if they just hadn’t released kiriko into playoffs
I agree
keen abyss
faker's just a freak. Most esports never have someone dominate that consistentl...
comparing profit to faker is such an insult to faker
profit was dominant for stage 1 2018 and grand finals 2018
and grand finals 2020
he was a good brig in 2019, among the best
vocal glacier
definitely pretty much only Star Craft Brood wars and some fighting games ever have someone as good as faker for as long as faker has been.
keen abyss
but other than that he hasn’t been special
he has highlights in his career but overwatch league doesn’t have a GOAT
balmy wolf
when did todays stream end accurate time please if possible
vocal glacier
just ended?
balmy wolf
SHI
dark hedge
How did danteh not get an mvp nom
earnest leaf
he wasn't an mvp level player for 90% of the voting window
and even at the end pelican is a better candidate for mvp than him
humble crow
wait has it only just ended
earnest leaf
i'm pretty sure most mvp voting is done in the final stage
so right before playoffs
copper valley
is there a way for me to check hours watched for the owl rewards?
rich bear
the next encore is in 8 hours right?
karmic charm
wait has it only just ended
like just over 1hr ago
regal stone
arent we suppoused to get the skin drops on the 15th? why did i get tracer bastion and genji now
cerulean cedar
@ornate shard
rich bear
arent we suppoused to get the skin drops on the 15th? why did i get tracer basti...
small indie company, can't be asked to deal with all the bugs
but take that w anyway
silver cradle
lol countdown just went up
rich bear
🗿
silver cradle
im on the site and i dont see that countdown ._.
OWL website not OW website https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/
silver cradle
Odd well it's around 6 hours left yeah
long bramble
So we've all accepted spitfire are winning the whole thing right?
karmic charm
yes
long bramble
Good
karmic charm
real not fake bracket
long bramble
I agree with all of those preds except I think Reign beat Mayhem
karmic charm
i considered it but after that mayhem 3-0 i dont know if i can
long bramble
Freak result, uncommon Kai L
karmic charm
if reign win i think they beat spark then lose to seoul
long bramble
As long as Chadi wins all I'm happy
silver cradle
real not fake bracket
I think Seoul is gonna beat Dallas 3-2
karmic charm
its a coinflip imo
karmic charm
realistically i think london will get 3rd
they beat outlaws then lose in a close game vs dal/seo
although i do think they have a chance to win both
silver cradle
Im biased against London, seing then lose so many times colours my judgment
dense cliff
Has anyone else gotten no rewards from the ow league stream? No skin or tokens
lunar knoll
does it matter if i watch the stream on pc or tv or smth else
cloud agate
ive already got my tracer genji and bastion skin but its saying 2020 grand finals
cloud agate
ive already got my tracer genji and bastion skin but its saying 2020 grand final...
…
when do u grt the skins
uncut drum
when do u grt the skins
Website
knotty cipher
does it matter if i watch the stream on pc or tv or smth else
TV doesn't work
Go to this site and scroll down to the FAQ section for info about this
karmic charm
Did I just wake up to see London beat glads
london look
fucking insane
like
genuinely
not even being a biased ldn fan
they look like
top 3 team rn
karmic charm
as a biased london fan i agree
as a non biased one
top 3
maybe top 2
landon best kiriko
long bramble
Backbone best Reaper
karmic charm
so true
uncut drum
london look
i was like i will only watch the map if london get 2 maps or if they win
time to watch it
karmic charm
it was
one wrong ult
from a 3-0
london looked like the better team the entire time besdies control round 1
vagrant jacinth
Wake up
Catch up with owl
London dub
Life good
London ow2 s1 champs let's get it
vagrant jacinth
real not fake bracket
Incredibly based bracket
karmic charm
why thank u fellow london fan
vagrant jacinth
Shock v dragons tonight, that's gonna be hot
karmic charm
LB looking kinda insane tbh
vagrant jacinth
Really is lol
karmic charm
shock dragons glads and then outlaws/spitfire
karmic charm
carpe needs to put those grippers away
karmic charm
Did anyone pred us?
nekkra
tribal canopy
Nekkta goated
uncut drum
London dub
i saw i was very happy
lost thicket
GG time for the lower bracket run
also god damn london
ngl can't be mad about it, fuel dynasty should be fun, dragons shock will be interesting, london outlaws is a great fucking surprise
lost thicket
shock lower bracket run lets gooooo, this is gonna be a fun fucking playoffs
if london end up higher that'll be wild
also london is gonna end up higher then EITHER shanghai or shock today
I fuck with this
cloud agate
when will we get all then skins
lost thicket
I am confident in shock but we COULD legit see london somewhere in gf
which is insane
gotta respect the london boys
uncut drum
when will we get all then skins
after the 15th
cloud agate
after the 15th
aight
fading hinge
north relic
Dallas vs Seoul where have I seen this before
civic vigil
Is anyone elses league tokens noy updatinh properly?
karmic charm
fuel 3-2 but a coinflip imo
karmic charm
if seoul win london make finals ez fr
lost thicket
hot take dynasy 3-0
karmic charm
chadi and backgoat > smurf profit
merry basin
i want dynasty to win so bad
lost thicket
I think they're gonna be dominant
uncut drum
what if fuel lose outlaws lose
then london lose to seoul
then they make a lower bracket run to the gf against seoul
karmic charm
seoul looked pretty shaky vs mayhem no?
lost thicket
dynasty is like me after a leg day, shaky shitting and crying
but they're good
I can see them winning GF
karmic charm
may be biased but london can geuinely make GF
vagrant cargo
Dynasty are from asspac
lost thicket
but could see the rematch of 2018
vagrant cargo
Dallas ontop
karmic charm
got shock and dynasty tbh
i dont think shock make it
lost thicket
i dont think shock make it
I'm confident in them, they can loose but they ain't going 0-2 at least
karmic charm
i think they beat dragons then lose to glads
karmic charm
i do think if shock picked london they wouldve also lost so idk
chilly scarab
Did someone already got the league skins 💀 ?
merry basin
watch more!
merry basin
not enough
chilly scarab
since yesterday im waiting
karmic charm
skins arent meant to come till nov 15
chilly scarab
o.o
karmic charm
some ppl already have them tho