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limpid grail
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but yknow

lost thicket
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Get a real win

earnest leaf
tawdry hamlet
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I didn't keep up how many games has shock lost now

buoyant jacinth
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4 in a row

trim shadow
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Shock started off 3-0?

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0-3?*

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Man the collaspe is insane

hot onyx
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deserved from fraudulent players in a fraudulent organisation

trim shadow
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First it was gladiators almost going winless

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Now probably shock?

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Man script writers deserve a grammy

cloud latch
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why a grammy

static pond
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Proper fine striker got diff tho

forest token
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oh did they play striker today?

worn falcon
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Yes

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Fresh of the airport

limpid grail
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toronto winning gives me hope

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i literally fell asleep during it and came back to them nearly full capping NQS

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also can someone tell me why some people don't like NQS

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I feel like it's miles better than colosseo because you don't have the stupid far high ground fight or the long corridor where no one wants to die

fathom igloo
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cause people just want to complain about everything

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if not NQS it would be another map

fast tusk
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theres no hope for shock anymore

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atl 3-0

earnest leaf
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I think they can maybe beat atl

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since they don't run as much sombra

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and a tracer/echo mirror is a lot closer for the two

earnest leaf
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considering he landed this morning

tribal cargo
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Does watching OWL still give league tokens? I didn't get any while watching it the other day.

tropic herald
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it does

keen abyss
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they will lose to atlanta for 2-4 stage

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then i will laugh at shock fans like how they laughed at glads for 2-4

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besides that glads did not lose to a low tier team

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and instead lost to the 4 best teams at the time

lost thicket
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I was gonna shit talk saying glads lost to tornto

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toronto*

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but then

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I remembered lmao

keen abyss
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losing to toronto when they are top 3 is not the same as losing to the toronto who got reverse swept by nyxl

lost thicket
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ok but nyxl first match never counts

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they are too good for some reason

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remember v outlaws

keen abyss
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outlaws roll a d20 before every match

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and the result is how well they will play

north relic
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Toronto are the most consistent team

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After the nyxl match they were 10-10 with 0 map diff

keen abyss
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they can be a top 3 team or a bottom 3 team on a day to day to basis

buoyant jacinth
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glads lost to the outlaws who got reverse swept by nyxl

buoyant jacinth
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Excuses

limpid grail
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?

buoyant jacinth
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In fact they were a bottom 3 team when they played glads

uncut drum
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Ok I am just going to put this out there if Toronto can beat shock London might have a chance

vagrant cargo
keen abyss
vagrant cargo
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Cope

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Shock are literally just like glads last meta they struggle to understand the meta

keen abyss
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glads lost to good teams

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imo

vagrant cargo
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-outlaws

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Who got toasted in the tourney

keen abyss
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4th seed

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lost to 1st seed 2nd seed 3rd seed 4th seed

vagrant cargo
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They werent 4th seed in that meta

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Mayhem was

keen abyss
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didnt mayhem barely clinch

vagrant cargo
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Houston weren't even a top 5 team in that meta

keen abyss
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bc top 5

vagrant cargo
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I'm talking abt tourney placement

keen abyss
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was dallas glads shock toronto

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and some other team idr

vagrant cargo
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Also shock just had to play the best team in this meta

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We finally understood the meta

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We are an unstoppable force now imo

keen abyss
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reverse swept by nyxl lost to sandbagging atlanta

vagrant cargo
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We didn't know how to play the meta?

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It's just like our back 2 back losses to London last stage

keen abyss
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you can play like 4 different comps

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'we don't know how to play the meta!!'

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finale > striker

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is the simple reason why toronto won

vagrant cargo
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Heesu being the best sombra itw was the difference maker

candid radish
vagrant cargo
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It's like irrelevant

candid radish
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You said Toronto didn’t understand the meta last stage

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You were 4th seed going into the tourny and finished 3rd overall

vagrant cargo
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Nah I said we need to go 0-2 to come back

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We didn't understand the meta in week 1 this stage

keen abyss
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okay so i want to know if im understanding this correctly

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the playoffs will be exclusively streamed from october 30th to november 2nd

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and on november 3rd and 4th it will be in person and on stream

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but no in person before the 3rd

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?

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ok yeah that is it

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it says doors open at 12:30 and playoffs start at 2:30 for thursday

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but it doesnt list it for grand finals

toxic dagger
keen abyss
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it is fucking wild to me how many people think profit should be mvp

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when he shouldnt even be a role star this year

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like

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if flex dps was its own role star

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he wouldnt even deserve that

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it'd be like when space got role star 2021

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he was a good dva but absolutely not a top 4 tank

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i am ready for shu and lip to get robbed of mvp 2 years in a row!

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for another flex dps player that was either mid or didnt achieve shit !

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profit mvp guys! forget about the time he got diffed by a b tier tracer otp with a much worse supporting roster in the biggest tournament of the regular season!

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proper mvp guys! forget about the times he got to grand finals and choked as hard as 2018 nyxl's playoffs run!

cerulean onyx
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Cope

keen abyss
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that's my MVP!

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whiffing pulse and getting slept by the GOAT true mvp frontrunner Shusus Christ 🙏

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then him whiffing another pulse on the GOAT true mvp frontrunner Shusus Christ!

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dw guys he may have whiffed 2 pulses on shu and cost his team a round and missed a play that could've won them the third round

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surely he won't get slept by the GOAT true mvp frontrunner Shusus Christ once more

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costing his team the first map

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leading them to getting snowballed !

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as the GOAT kevster gaps proper same map and actually lands his pulses

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on viol2t

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winning his team the map of the biggest set of the year

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i was flipping through the eich match just to make comments about proper going missing once more and i found another pulse whiff on shu 😭

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then continues to choke getting the finishing blow on the 5 hp shu

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surely proper won't go entirely missing for the shock's entire second attack round on gibraltar!

earnest leaf
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man is actually obsessed

keen abyss
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i'm having fun

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i haven't even gotten to dorado

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where he completely ignored the point

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to pressure ansan

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when he could've at least stalled a little bit while doing so

earnest leaf
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he was kinda fucked there

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If he doesn't contest the widow, she can just one tap people coming back in and win anyways

keen abyss
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no wait guys proper can clutch gibraltar he has pulse and can kill ans before he nano's kevster's blade and win shock the map! extremely winnable fight just one shu pic-

split flume
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@keen abyss proper isn't gonna fuck you

keen abyss
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good i have standards

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surely the GOAT will not stop pr*per again winning a very good fight for ult economy

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ooh i found more surely proper after getting his team the lead and having all his resources wont neutralize his lead by getting picked first !

jagged geode
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with valorant franchising is it viable to try for pro league in overwatch ? I am currently a tier 2 pro in val and franchining has ruined tier 2

keen abyss
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proper's got this he can touch cart for a few seconds until mikey is back and healed up and can drop mines on cart buying shock enough space to win the map and go to a map 7 (they would not need a map 7 if proper had not choked ilios and gibraltar)

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imo

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proper hard choked the biggest tourney of the year and just did not show up for the next tourney (though more understandable because hanGOAT was unstoppable on jq)

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3 extremely winnable maps if proper had not choked at least 1 micro play

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and then another map where he just did not show up

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meanwhile shu consistently makes clutch plays to shut down propah

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and kevster does not get outplayed by finn in the same way proper gets outplayed by shu

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not making the valuable map winning plays

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in places where kevGOAT would have made the plays

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not my mvp !

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(example of tracer player who can clutch and land fight opening map winning pulse bombs on supports instead of getting killed by the supports in question when making those plays)

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(example 2 of tracer player who can clutch and land most important fight winning pulse bombs on supports instead of getting killed by the supports in question when making those plays)

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proper 5th most valuable player

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in my opinion

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fraudper MVP would be highway robbery from the actual deserving candidates

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(best OW player of all time lip, extremely clutch best fdps in the world kevster, one man army tank solo carry hanbin, far clear best support player in the world title winning playmaker shu)

earnest leaf
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imo proper/kevster should win mvp

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one of them

keen abyss
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no

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please do not give us fdps mvp

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4th year in a row

earnest leaf
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last year and this year it's deserved tbf

keen abyss
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i love kevster and he has put up mvp level performances

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but shu has been just as good if not better

earnest leaf
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s3 mvp was dumb and s2 was a zarya doom two trick

keen abyss
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and went above and beyond to win glads both titles

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even understanding to give up his life to make those plays in game

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understanding how to gauge when giving up his life will win his team the fight

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glads with shu won back to back titles and were by far the best team in the world

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glads without shu went 2-4 and didnt qualify

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though tbf they were looking good

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by the end of SS

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they sadly never had the chance to prove they were at least second best in NA

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at joats

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by the end

earnest leaf
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no shu does suck, but imo that's more so no FS in general to just clutch up

keen abyss
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because toronto is so fucking shit

earnest leaf
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since brig lucio couldn't do too much individually

earnest leaf
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Not having shu sucks

keen abyss
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oh

keen abyss
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that shu's value to gladiators

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and ability to clutch up

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turned them from a good team to the best team in the world

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kevster is really fucking good he's a monster but there are other fdps close to his level

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while shu is head and shoulders above the rest of the fs this year

earnest leaf
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there's like maybe 2 close to him

keen abyss
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like who competes with shu

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finn? where was that dude in midseason madness finals

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found him

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there is a reason shu is literally the only FS for mvp this year

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because who do you put as his competition

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no FS has been even close to him

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it'd just be unfair

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scratch flex support he's the only support on the mvp ballot this year

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because no other support has had shu levels of impact

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like realistically everybody is a winner if profit/kai/hadi dont win mvp

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because any of those 3 winning would actually be a tragedy

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but imo kevster shu and hanbin

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who have actually proven that they can turn it up and win those clutch matches

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instead of having an almost perfect regular season record then stumbling and falling over and getting gapped the moment a big match comes up

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not my mvp !

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imo midseason madness carries the most weight for MVP

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then KC then SS

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could be pro-gladiators bias maybe but

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global tournament > regular tournament > silly meta tournament

hot onyx
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HANGZHOU SPARK TIME!

hot onyx
keen abyss
candid radish
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Did both of those EMP's miss

hollow bough
cedar oasis
hot onyx
hot onyx
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Neko is making me appreciate FiXas invisibility

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Spark sandbagging this tournament to prepare for playoffs

humble yarrow
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Wasn't teru on the Vancouver titans last season as a DPS?

tepid ibex
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Yes

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He went back to contenders and played as a support

humble yarrow
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He is better at DPS tbh

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And he sucked at DPS

tepid ibex
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He was playing brig on his team during joats

humble yarrow
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Oh kinda like what Profin and Sasin where doing?

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Profit*

tepid ibex
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Yeah

humble yarrow
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But he just stayed on support and didn't go back?

tepid ibex
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He either really practiced flex support and brig whilst on td or before Vancouver

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Td as in team diamond in contenders not defiant

humble yarrow
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I read it as defiant.

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Thanks for clearing it up

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If yall vote Hadi for MVP I will be so happy

sullen berry
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but Shu overwatch

thin berry
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holy shit dragons actually won something

dreamy cave
vagrant jacinth
keen abyss
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hadi being the 90th most deserving player of mvp this year

final musk
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Is cdh about to lose a round because they didn’t clean up after a fight?

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Yuuuuuup

full lichen
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Ngl, an Orisa, Kiriko meta is soon

full lichen
final musk
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Or kiriko zen if people are feeling greedy

limpid grail
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bruh

limpid grail
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goat gameplay there

mortal cipher
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Honestly so good

full lichen
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Hell yeah, Valiant win

split flume
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nohill was the problem

sullen berry
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wild

wind girder
split flume
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it's incredible just how fraudulent spark is

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how the fuck is changgoon still employed

mortal cipher
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It’s how the changoon effect goes

cloud latch
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I enjoy watching spark collapse

fathom igloo
sullen berry
fathom igloo
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I was mostly joking

molten portal
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ok apac is so mickey mouse

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its unbelievable

fathom igloo
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because the valiant beat the hunters

molten portal
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huh

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no

wooden finch
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So where do the apac compete at? Or they still have to go thru China region?

fiery hill
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So they made the challengers’ cup for a way to ‘jump into’ higher OW esports teams

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I thought that’s what Path to Pro was

uncut drum
fiery hill
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Well that wouldn’t be very fair on people who aren’t eligible to be in Challengers

uncut drum
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Yeah you have a point

fiery hill
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I get the concept of it, they want to help out people in marginalised groups because they experience inequality in other walks of life

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But in doing so, now you simply just have less routes and chances to become a pro thank others if you aren’t in a minority group

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It’s not really equality, it’s more like attempted equity

wooden finch
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Well as for me, my concern is the lack of opportunity for the SEA region

hot onyx
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the calm before the storm

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3-1

wind girder
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Thoughts?

hot onyx
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#chargetheworld

fiery hill
wooden finch
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So far all I have seen are community event like the zotac cups

uncut drum
fiery hill
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So perhaps a woman in S. Korea could join Challengers because she’s perceived to have a disadvantage

But she would probably have more chances to get involved in Esports than a man in SEA

uncut drum
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Charge should have it

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But it will be close

wind girder
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Gotcha

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Ty

wooden finch
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they will open up to more region

wind girder
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I mean

fiery hill
wind girder
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Fusion won over spark and charge lost to hunters

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So idk what to pick

fathom igloo
fiery hill
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That’s inevitable, every pro player will get hate for any ‘dirt’ that people can find on them

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It’s an unfortunate reality that isn’t going to stop just because an inclusive league is being made

fathom igloo
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but there are some who'll get more hate then some

fiery hill
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Blizzard isn’t exactly fixing the problem
They can’t, it’s literally just how the world works for now

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They are, however, doubling the opportunities to become an OW pro for some
And for others, it stays the same

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Like @wooden finch mentioned about SEA, the chances to get into pro esports is mostly dependant on your location rather than your identity

mortal cipher
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I literally thought watch Philly beat Shanghai then lose to charge

wind girder
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I wanna get a 3 row

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Also what does Token Match even mean

hot onyx
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getting the preds correct in a token match earns 3 tokens

wind girder
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But you get tokens when it isn't token match too

mortal cipher
uncut drum
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what

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that sleep

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on jimmy

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or farway

limpid grail
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I promise you

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sleep dart is a balanced ability

mortal cipher
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Yeah

willow drum
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imo

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its strong but not

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op

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like lamp

limpid grail
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I'm just so curious at this point

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I know the setting does require some time but like

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does no one use nano confirm

sullen berry
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no way this is happening when I couldn't watch the whole game

limpid grail
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that's actually funny as heck

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because they nano'd vindaim

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he went aggro as heck and couldn't ride back to stop the backcap

mortal cipher
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Charge9

molten portal
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charge deserve atleast 1 map

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such a close series

uncut drum
limpid grail
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so no one

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🥱

molten portal
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ml7 does

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🗿

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so noone

mortal cipher
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Lol

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I mostly nano the tanks

molten portal
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do you prefer this meta or stage 2

mortal cipher
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I’d say this one

uncut drum
buoyant jacinth
sullen berry
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LMAO KDG

cloud latch
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he has infiltrated the toronto defiant...

lost thicket
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LMAO

cunning patrol
static pond
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So by the looks of it na double flex mata apac with just a normal dive comp

limpid grail
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huh

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LA, Charge, Seoul, and chengdu all played a ton of zarya today

forest token
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all troll teams

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checks out

mortal abyss
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Fusion play zar aswell

forest token
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still troll

limpid grail
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zarya is a good hero wow who knew

forest token
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she just isn't

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apac was running zarya stage 1 as well

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and we know how that ended

worn falcon
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Well

uncut drum
forest token
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glads

uncut drum
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ok

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so fuel is troll

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cause they play zarya

buoyant jacinth
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glads titles are mickey because they only won vs troll teams

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fr!

forest token
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yes

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hence why they got shitstomped stage 1 on the zar

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and did not even make it to the finals stage 2

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also

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love tuning in just to see the zar comp get stomped by a monkey comp

static pond
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I would love to see dragons play whoru lip

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Genji and sombra

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Since fleta having trouble

willow drum
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Get out of here

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Not the place to be advertising

twin bloom
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Shock win today because ATL are echo one plays

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Sadly

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Ly

earnest leaf
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atl are an honest team and don't use sombra

tropic herald
limpid grail
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don't talk about shock challenge (hard)

tropic herald
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Tay Zonday mains soldier 76 in open q

karmic charm
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shock purposely losing to knock london out top 6

earnest leaf
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I just remembered something

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I made a bet toronto wouldn't get top 5 NA

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and god damn was I right

tropic herald
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beat shock though

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so they are winning

earnest leaf
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for them to get top5 would take them winning all their games, and reign/london losing the rest

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actually they can't even get top 5

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london having 13 wins puts top5 out of reach for them since toronto only have 1 game left

tawdry hamlet
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The fact London is cruising in middle of the league blows my mind

tawdry hamlet
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I never expected London to contend above the lowest rung

earnest leaf
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fuck forgot there were 6 games not 4

tropic herald
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24 game season

earnest leaf
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so it takes toronto winning 3 and london and reign losing 3-4 games

tropic herald
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toronto could def finish top 5

earnest leaf
tawdry hamlet
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Oh yeah mid season upgrades helped a lot. But hadi poko inspired no confidence in me how tf they just magically work. And Landon being better than anyone expected him to be helped a lot

tropic herald
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def helps he could play his best fs

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for most of the first few stages

uncut drum
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happy birthday matt

fast tusk
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ooohh happy birthday mr.x

uncut drum
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Atlanta winning against shock

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will be close

fast tusk
twin bloom
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Not poko

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Tho

uncut drum
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poko needs to play more

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the zarya

earnest leaf
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poko is around what I expected

uncut drum
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dva

twin bloom
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He does

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Not

fast tusk
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"based matt" -youtube chat

tawdry hamlet
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Hadi must've really been done dirty by the ping and coaching and backline diff

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He looked so lost last year tho I didn't think you could make such a big jump with coaching

uncut drum
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he has improved so much

tawdry hamlet
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Like his backline sucked in s4 but his positioning was terrible too

twin bloom
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Imo a goot tank

cloud latch
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who's bday is it?

twin bloom
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Will look bad

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On a bad team

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No mattah what

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Sado s2

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Hadi s4

uncut drum
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matts

twin bloom
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And then playahs like benbest who are shit

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Can look like goats

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Cause team gap

earnest leaf
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the tank paradox

haughty coyote
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Yo im tryna get into watching ow esports who the favourite to win

twin bloom
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Glads

earnest leaf
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to win the season?

twin bloom
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Don't let

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Seoul fans

haughty coyote
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im watching dallas v london

twin bloom
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Convince you otherwise

earnest leaf
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Seoul/glads are the main ones, but glads have been ahead for most of the season

haughty coyote
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o

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London bad?

twin bloom
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Mid

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Table

tidal marsh
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what stage is this?

earnest leaf
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countdown cup

tidal marsh
haughty coyote
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guys should i spend my ow coins or keep for ow2

earnest leaf
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ah, i'm not watching the games for now

haughty coyote
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i got like 1.5k

earnest leaf
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because sombra makes me sleep

forest token
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real

uncut drum
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nice cancel hadi

tidal marsh
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dallas is feeling the KC nostalgia

tropic herald
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rein does abuse zarya

uncut drum
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cause of the new legacy coins

next mesa
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Imo

forest token
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the reaper is much harder for the rein comp to avoid than other comps

tidal marsh
haughty coyote
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o alr

forest token
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so I'm not sold on the rein comp being that far superior to the zar comp

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if you're not running a reaper or a genji though switch off zar

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please

haughty coyote
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since u can only buy the legend skins with real money in ow2?

tidal marsh
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moira tho O_O

haughty coyote
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ima main orisa ow2 i think or ima go kiriko

tidal marsh
haughty coyote
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hmm

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i hope the league roadhog skin comes back

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soo hot

tidal marsh
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same here

uncut drum
tidal marsh
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i expect there to be prime gaming skins tho

uncut drum
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the vid by stylosa showed you could buy skins with the old coins

haughty coyote
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its on the blizzard launcher

uncut drum
haughty coyote
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there is kiriko skin

tidal marsh
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wtf is this dallas comp?

forest token
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backbone dying was very sad

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oh wait they capped

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and that took window

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so double supp ult

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lmfao doha is on an island

fiery hill
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OWL casters trying to figure out why Reinhardt isn’t working (hint: Blizzard)

forest token
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actual gigabrain play

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holy shit

haughty coyote
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did reinhardt charge get faster?

forest token
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don't think so

haughty coyote
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it looked very fast but idk if im lagging

uncut drum
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nice shatter hadi

forest token
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hanbin tried to spawncamp backbone so spitfire beated and sent hadi to do pin him

uncut drum
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nice london

forest token
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LOL

uncut drum
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rush working for them

forest token
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the emp/pin

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fucking stupid lmfao

uncut drum
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maybe london orisa good?

forest token
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who are you ccing

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orisa doesn't have the same area control as rein with hammer

fiery hill
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There’s like 2-3 tanks in OW2 that you still get value out of even if you’re shit

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Reinhardt isn’t one of those characters

forest token
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her main thing is spear spin which is great for single-target, but who is that target

haughty coyote
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orisa hot

forest token
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who are you putting where

haughty coyote
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spear absorbs all projectiles?

forest token
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briefly

haughty coyote
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yeah

forest token
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dude

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mei is so fucking stupid

#

hadi can't play the game

uncut drum
haughty coyote
#

wasnt sym supposed to turn into a support?

forest token
#

based chris

uncut drum
#

we might see it today

forest token
#

hope not

tidal marsh
#

i hope so

#

im always an advocate for fun

forest token
#

the reaper/mei is making it so fucking hard for hadi

#

holy shit

fiery hill
#

Ah yes, the clever tactic of
‘JQ is existing so we win’

worn falcon
forest token
#

no

#

only truth

fathom igloo
#

I mean they also have a reaper which is a big counter to rein

forest token
#

free slow for being in melee range

#

very cool

worn falcon
#

Skill issue

tidal marsh
haughty coyote
#

is junker queen good i havent watched her gameplay

fathom igloo
forest token
#

this map specifically the reaper is fucking demolishing

#

but this map also historically has been a reaper map

fiery hill
forest token
#

in ow2

#

one swing takes the overhp off

haughty coyote
forest token
#

btw

#

it's a 50hp bonus and rein swing is 85

#

so one swing more than takes off all the overhp

tidal marsh
fiery hill
#

No, she does that for like a second

haughty coyote
#

kiriko is such a good addition

forest token
#

kiriko has better mitigation than JQ does now

fiery hill
#

JQ has shout, which makes everything less fun for its duration

forest token
#

shout is 50hp on allies

worn falcon
#

Buff JQ again

forest token
#

50

#

kiriko blocking one rein swing already takes away more damage than JQ shout

worn falcon
#

Fast gun and revert hp

fiery hill
#

Yes, every ally gets around 20% extra HP just by being next to their tank

#

Which doesn’t even account for two healers

forest token
#

kiriko blocks way more

fiery hill
#

It also speeds you

forest token
#

the speed is the main thing yes

tidal marsh
#

if we wanna talk busted, Kirikos ult huh

fiery hill
tidal marsh
#

man that thing is crazy

forest token
#

it's the same timing as zarya bubble

#

the fuck

fiery hill
#

It’s like saying ‘Ana heals better than Lucio’ without taking into account how Lucio heals the whole team and doesn’t need to focus it

forest token
#

what

#

lucio doesn't want to be healing

fiery hill
#

I’m literally not going to bother explaining that to you

forest token
#

bro

#

you said

#

that a character that loses value when you put him on heal duty

#

heals better than one of the best healers in the game

fiery hill
#

Intentionally or not

forest token
#

or

#

you explained it like shit

fiery hill
#

Oh my god, are you stupid?

tidal marsh
#

coulda said ana and brig

fiery hill
#

Why the fuck would I be comparing lucio’s speed to anas heal? They’re different buffs

forest token
#

why would you compare lucio heals to ana heals

fiery hill
#

I used an example with one part of a characters kit
And you just started ranting about the rest of their abilities which weren’t relevant to the example

forest token
#

or

tidal marsh
#

woah

#

MICKIE

#

TAIMOU

#

WHAAA

forest token
#

the example is shit because you aren't thinking about what actually happens in-game

fiery hill
forest token
#

mhm

tidal marsh
#

the fuel just do it best

fiery hill
#

Idiot, I described why you can’t compare AOE to targeted abilities because of how they work differently

And you went ‘but speed boost tho!!!!’

#

Are you a troll?

forest token
#

how does kiriko suzu work differently from bubble

#

tell me

#

enlighten me

#

what changes the suzu timing to not be at the break of the fight

fiery hill
forest token
#

lmfao

#

classic cop-out

tidal marsh
forest token
#

"it's not that I don't know what I'm talking about you're just too stupid"

fiery hill
fast tusk
#

i thought fearless jumped off the the map for a min lmao

tidal marsh
fiery hill
#

It’s not a roast

forest token
#

last person that said that to me told me zarya was good right before fuel got 4-0'd in finals by glads

#

so

fiery hill
#

I would be fine with discussing it with anyone who didn’t take so long to understand anything

buoyant jacinth
#

Get a room

forest token
#

taking abilities out of context and equating them when it doesn't make sense is extremely common with people that don't know what they actually do

fiery hill
#

AKA what you did with JQ and Kirkiro

forest token
#

except

#

both abilities are used on the same timing

fathom igloo
#

just ignore this guy he's a bandwagon fan

forest token
#

for the same purpose

fiery hill
#

What?

forest token
#

not exactly the same purpose because JQ speed

fiery hill
#

Nice backtrack

forest token
#

minor correction = backtrack

#

I see

fiery hill
#

As if an AOE speed and HP boost is the same as a throwable invincibility that lasts for one second

tidal marsh
#

lets get back to the original conversation

forest token
#

reword suzu in terms of ehp

#

there you go

fiery hill
#

Your point was flawed from the start and I’m not spending any more effort on you

#

Back to game

tidal marsh
#

about how kiriko has better dmg mitigation with suzu than jq shout

forest token
#

don't worry it's just not worth the time

#

surely ehp comparisons have never showed characters to be fucking ridiculous before

fiery hill
#

🤓

tidal marsh
#

but yeah kiriko suzu is very high skilled

forest token
#

if tp didn't let you sit right next to where you want to suzu I'd say maybe, sure

#

but

#

tp

fiery hill
#

Lmao the recall to just low enough to miss the edge

forest token
#

the fuck was that jump

#

backbone was nowhere near

fiery hill
#

Sombra pressed the win button guys!

#

Certainly a fun time to watch OWL

cunning patrol
#

So don’t

fiery hill
#

I want my tokens

haughty coyote
#

sombra shouldnt be able to hack while invis

#

kinda broke

cunning patrol
#

So go do something else

fiery hill
#

It’s 9PM and I’m not near my computer today

#

Do what?

#

There’s still fun moments, mostly when sombra isn’t in the fight

limpid grail
#

bio nade is funny

fiery hill
#

Monkey gets hacked, focussed, continually shot by tracer then pulse bombed

#

Lives

#

Overwatch.

fathom igloo
#

if your jsut gonna complain leave

fiery hill
#

No lol

fathom igloo
#

then stop whining

stuck radish
fiery hill
#

Or you can realise I’m not gonna listen to some guy on discord who’s too into Pokémon

fiery hill
fathom igloo
#

lmao you litterally sound liek a 12 yo

stuck radish
fiery hill
fathom igloo
#

if you have such an issue with me block me

fiery hill
fathom igloo
#

don't care didn't ask

fiery hill
#

🥶🥶🥶

stuck radish
#
  • echo gets low
  • uses dupe on a dva so she has 600hp
  • echo gets low
  • uses dva bomb and remechs so she has another 600hp
  • echo gets low
  • uses another dva bomb and gets full health again
  • echo leaves dupe and gets healed
#

very cool

forest token
#

extremely intelligent convo out of the person that's simply too smart to try and explain things to me

#

lmfao

fiery hill
fiery hill
forest token
#

I've been watching the game

#

lol

fiery hill
#

Uh-huh

#

Keep typing bro I promise I’ll care

forest token
#

lmfao

fathom igloo
#

and he hasn't been crying because his team can't play sombra

forest token
#

I like how you assume that my interactions here revolve around you

fathom igloo
#

man just needs a life

forest token
#

real

fathom igloo
#

also he's British

fiery hill
tidal marsh
#

overwatch btw

fiery hill
#

Yeah sombra pressed the win button again

#

It was crazy

haughty coyote
#

did dalas win? i wasnt paying attention

twin bloom
#

Hadi da MVP

#

Fr

fathom igloo
#

what is your issue with sombra

forest token
tidal marsh
#

its dallas, theyre one of if not the best team currently in the season

fathom igloo
#

sombra is fun to watch

tidal marsh
#

a loss is expected

haughty coyote
#

sombra is so cringe she should be banned in league

fiery hill
forest token
#

unless fuel's monkey is actually top tier now they still lose to glads

#

since glads actually know how to play into zarya

fiery hill
forest token
#

which hey I don't think they've been running the dva so maybe they've actually put in the work

fiery hill
#

Are teams allowed to play Kirkiro?

haughty coyote
#

banned for 2 weeks?

#

at start i think

forest token
#

she'll be in for playoffs I think?

#

idk

haughty coyote
#

i was hoping to play her in comp day 1

earnest leaf
#

she will be

haughty coyote
#

but yah know

earnest leaf
#

because devs are something else

forest token
#

true

#

I mean

#

game's fucked already

haughty coyote
#

when is next hero release ;)

forest token
#

why not fuck it more

tidal marsh
haughty coyote
#

ITS FEARLESS

#

lol

fiery hill
#

Kirkiro got the ‘why learn how to position?’ Button

The ‘damage ultimates don’t matter’ button

And the ‘why bother timing abilities? (Ft. Your whole team)’ button

tidal marsh
#

I could say this for every hero

fiery hill
#

But idk if she’ll be that strong

#

Seems to require skill, at least

#

To be proficient at

uncut drum
#

kaan is getting bullied

limpid grail
#

London protect your supports challenge (hard)

#

see if this was OW 1

#

a dva could help

hollow bough
forest token
#

lmfao what a cheeky strat

mortal cipher
#

Lll

tidal marsh
#

this is a poor meta for london to play in ngl

willow drum
#

london is DONE

#

imo

twin bloom
hollow bough
#

gg

twin bloom
#

Is more than enough

#

For.londone

haughty coyote
#

dalas nerf next season

twin bloom
#

Also they will prolly

#

Go 14-10

willow drum
#

what i meant

#

i meant they are done

#

in the series

#

not the season

twin bloom
#

Ok

tidal marsh
willow drum
twin bloom
willow drum
#

dallas is very weak

twin bloom
#

But that game

willow drum
#

when it is a HS/double fs

#

meta

twin bloom
#

Is not gauranteed

tidal marsh
twin bloom
#

Yeah

#

Thats the record

#

Atl might get

cloud latch
#

how did dallas do

#

didn't watch gfame

tidal marsh
cloud latch
#

how did london do

tidal marsh
old helm
twin bloom
#

They got mechanically gapped

tidal marsh
#

its just a testiment to how strong and good dallas is

twin bloom
#

They didn't do that bad

#

Conpetetive eich and control

#

Fuel just better

#

In every positon

#

Minus tracer

idle beacon
#

dallas fools won't win the whole thing. mark my words!

#

IF there will be east vs west finals, again

tidal marsh
old helm
#

Dallas is probably the favourite to win the whole thing.

idle beacon
#

will there be an overall finals again?

twin bloom
#

Langoat

#

Maybe

sullen berry
wind girder
#

Can we get a Winston interview

#

Please

idle beacon
#

nekkra ❤️

#

what is fearless wearing? or is he just hiding? 😄

idle beacon
#

ah he took it off

willow drum
wind girder
#

Winston plush

#

Absolute chad move ngl

tropic herald
sullen berry
old helm
#

So strange having him talk to him in English then just repeat it in Korean

mortal cipher
#

How

mortal cipher
#

He’s translating

old helm
#

Ik, it just looks strange bc fearless is just sitting there not understanding what is being said. Makes for a strange dynamic

plush grail
#

i'd smash fearless

cedar oasis
plush grail
#

@cedar oasiswerent u muted here

cedar oasis
plush grail
#

okay tyrone

fathom igloo
#

nekkra's answer was amazing

#

tf'

#

is this I just want to watch my justice game

sullen berry
#

can't wait to watch the start of this VOD

#

start talking about paninis, grilled cheeses and hotdogs without context

fathom igloo
#

Imagine they just cut it out

dreamy cave
haughty coyote
#

woop justice

sullen berry
#

well this is the first time witnessing kalios on orisa live

#

it's quite remarkable

fathom igloo
sullen berry
#

none of last week's NA games, I've only heard about it

fathom igloo
#

Ah

#

Last weeks NA games for were good

north relic
#

kellan goat

dreamy cave
#

Let's goooo

wind girder
#

I need Kalios on Orisa

#

Bring me the Orisa action

dreamy cave
cedar oasis
cedar oasis
#

did you escape?

north relic
#

ez 1st map

static pond
#

What the point of Ana in justice?

dreamy cave
#

Its winnable

restive nexus
#

what a personal death blossom

north relic
#

you are 15 years behind

restive nexus
#

huh

#

oh

#

ooh nyxl map one

#

if nyxl beat justice that means nyxl>shoc

#

k

mortal cipher
#

Habe NYXL Beat reign yet

fathom igloo
#

Technically NYXL are better then SFS cause they beat tor who best sfs

restive nexus
#

and when they beat washington midstice

fathom igloo
#

Y'all are jumping to conclusions after one map lmao

earnest leaf
#

justice beat shock and mfs thought they weren't justice anymore oh nonono

willow drum
#

real

north relic
#

?

#

nyxl are just better than shock

#

its pretty simple

fathom igloo
#

I'm just saying it's one map so it's no use to saying NYXL will win it all yet

plush grail
#

@north relic if nyxl > justice

#

paris

#

beats everyone

#

justice beat shock

#

but nyxl beat them

#

but paris beat nyxl

#

so

north relic
plush grail
north relic
plush grail
#

grab a monster for me pls

cedar oasis
worn falcon
#

Yaki > Proper fr

#

the fuck was that

wind girder
#

Justice wins easy

worn falcon
#

i hate how disorganized NYXL looks

#

jfc

restive nexus
#

Washington somehow diesnt complete

forest token
#

is that pixelwalk on junkertown new

#

or is that in ow1

#

the fuck

restive nexus
#

E

twilit oriole
dreamy cave
forest token
#

kalios should've been 20 energy instead of 60 when he pushed ho1

#

that's about 40 dps that shouldn't have been there

#

holy sleep

worn falcon
#

assassin

#

lmfao

forest token
#

isn't it crazy how much lower zarya's damage is when she isn't charged

#

that's insane

#

crazy

#

omg kalios waiting out the bubble

#

fucking

#

wild

worn falcon
#

zarya good in ow2

#

:)

forest token
#

yep

#

:)

#

very good

#

:)

#

I really want a patch freeze just to see where this meta ends up going as teams learn how to play it

worn falcon
#

man, they try too much to break her bubble instead waiting the cooldown off

forest token
#

yep

#

and then they have no ammo or abilities to actually kill

#

and they've just given away a shitton of charge

worn falcon
#

like i get if you're with 3 teammates

forest token
#

also if you have the damage

worn falcon
#

but 2 or less

forest token
#

that's why the hanzo and echo work against zarya

#

they let you actually burst through the bubble and kill the target inside

#

because echo stickies and storm arrow are fucking ridiculous

#

idk why soj here

#

what angles are you closing off

#

where is your slow going

#

or it is just another source of charge

worn falcon
#

im guessing because the stretch walks

forest token
#

nvm they went sombra

static pond
#

Flora aim lol

forest token
#

was just for OC maybe I didn't check ult

#

ope burn through bubble just for beat to come in

#

really glad we spent all that damage feeding kalios charge

worn falcon
#

spy check

forest token
#

I LOVE spychecking

#

it's so fun and interactive

#

I love overwatch

worn falcon
#

im still wondering the reasoning on invis hack

forest token
#

idk

#

fucking blizzard moment

#

then they buff the fucking silence on it too

#

like yay

worn falcon
#

like hack is strong at how it is, why add invis

earnest leaf
#

maybe next match will be interesting

#

since atl don't force sombra all the time

forest token
#

I love getting dove because I got hacked by an invisible move speed boosted sombra

hollow bough
#

rest in peace nyxl

worn falcon
#

rip shock

#

Striker jetlagged

forest token
#

I swear to god I'm tempted to go through and add up all the charge they gave kalios for free and calculate how much damage he got that he just shouldn't have

worn falcon
#

:)

wind girder
#

I'm an actual prophet

fast tusk
#

alt putting in gator against shock would be the biggest troll duud

#

lmao

mortal cipher
#

Fr

fathom igloo
#

Justice > tor since the justice didn't get reverse swept by NYXL

supple prism
#

dang it, I missed Tay Zonday

tropic herald
fast tusk
#

the chocolate rain guy ?

supple prism
#

yes

fast tusk
#

oh wow

supple prism
#

he is 40 years old?

fast tusk
#

how time flies

#

lmao uber

mint crow
#

lets shit on some reign

keen abyss
#

if reign lose this i am never putting faith in this franchise again

mint crow
#

xd

mortal cipher
#

Probably not gonna lose

wind girder
#

Junkrat plays

#

Real!!!!

#

Nvm

dreamy cave
willow drum
#

@twin bloom imagine if this is the first game

#

shock wins

mint crow
#

it will

#

be

willow drum
#

venom died

#

L

mint crow
#

imagine we go 0-43 rn

#

id cry

mortal cipher
earnest leaf
#

shock need to not use sombra

#

just mirror echo tracer

twin bloom
#

Striker is ass

#

Sadlt

willow drum
#

he is not imo on his 1t

twin bloom
#

Also uv Vigilantee

mint crow
#

took him over 3mins to get emp

dreamy cave
twin bloom
#

Gapping

mint crow
#

fuck

twin bloom
#

Imo

mint crow
#

put finn on ana and viol2t on zen

#

why not put viol2t on his best hero

keen abyss
#

shock 0-4 inc ❤️

mint crow
#

they shouldve kept the sigma comp tbh

#

striker on tracer looks way better than his sombra

faint tapir
#

Fr fr

#

just keep the tracer sojourn

mint crow
#

proper can play everything so just put him on sojourn or whatever

keen abyss
mint crow
#

yea

static pond
#

Violet would have been picked more due to no high ground

last nimbus
#

Did they run sig comp first round?

faint tapir
#

yes

last nimbus
#

Bruh

static pond
#

If they kept sig comp

shut bobcat
#

Shock 0-3 nooooo

keen abyss
last nimbus
#

Only comp they've looked relatively good at this stage

mint crow
#

tiktakje nl?

keen abyss
#

a comp where sig comps and rein comps have always looked better than dive