is if a seoul player wins mvp
#esports-discussion
willow drum
it is not
uncut drum
He has improved a lot
keen abyss
there is no shot kai or hadi get mvp
they’re not even the best mvp candidates from their team
I obviously have my biases in favor of glads mvp but I wouldn’t be too upset with hanbin lip zest mvps
since they’ve got very heavy backpacks and have done great with what they have
willow drum
there is no shot kai or hadi get mvp
agreed but still
if they get mvp
it is a highway robbery
willow drum
agreed
restive nexus
that actually makes since besides hadi
keen abyss
I don’t want to see proper mvp at all
hot onyx
Alright guys sorry I’m late I was messaging my gf and forgot there was a Fusion game on today, how badly is FiXa screwing the team over
restive nexus
I don’t want to see proper mvp at all
Loper
willow drum
I don’t want to see proper mvp at all
it will not be a crime
hot onyx
What the fuck
willow drum
if proper is mvp
last nimbus
im ngl
keen abyss
I feel like he’s gonna get sympathy points for mvp idk
willow drum
despite what the haters say
last nimbus
fixa aint doing too shabby on the ana
willow drum
he deserves mvp
hot onyx
Proper MVP frees up ZEST AROTY
willow drum
but like everybody
hot onyx
I’m fine with that
willow drum
or 4 people
keen abyss
I can already hear the mvp speech talking about adversity with his injury
keen abyss
Proper MVP frees up ZEST AROTY
no it doesn’t
willow drum
and shu as well
hot onyx
Hanbin MVP ZEST AROTY best timeline imo
keen abyss
unless they just specifically mentioned it
last nimbus
when can we vote for nominees
last nimbus
or like how does the award system work
keen abyss
hanbin is so much more qualified for mvp than proper
willow drum
hanbin is so much more qualified for mvp than proper
bad take
hot onyx
Sombra gap
split flume
hanbin should not get
my honest reaction
restive nexus
danteh should be a candidate
willow drum
i would rather see it
hot onyx
Hanbin has single handedly been the best player the Dallas Fuel has had all season
hot onyx
And is the reason they made it to two finals and won one
restive nexus
than hanbin
based
restive nexus
danteh is at least a better candidate than hadi and kai
and merit could be up there i feel
hot onyx
Fun fact, tanks get swapped out depending on meta
hot onyx
Shu was missing stage 3 does that make him less MVP worthy?
willow drum
yes
restive nexus
Shu was missing stage 3 does that make him less MVP worthy?
kinda.
hot onyx
Mf judging mvp based on playtime and not performance and impact from time played
split flume
shu missing stage 3 and glads don't make the tournament. seems pretty telling to me imqho 
willow drum
shu missing stage 3 and glads don't make the tournament. seems pretty telling to...
also agree
last nimbus
roty nominees at least proper finn chorong zest
restive nexus
merit>kai
keen abyss
shu has proven to be vital to the success of the best team in the world
keen abyss
Horrible take from a somewhat stable individual
wdym somewhat stable
restive nexus
Horrible take from a somewhat stable individual
somewhat stable?? wym
keen abyss
i personally hope the lip gets it
I was about to say
willow drum
i love lip
keen abyss
fdps 4 years in a row so true !
split flume
lip 
willow drum
he deserves mvp
last nimbus
shu best fs in owl no doubt
hot onyx
I personally think ZEST has carried more dead weight than Lip
willow drum
he hasn't
split flume
lip best hs in the world
willow drum
but ok
restive nexus
I personally think ZEST has carried more dead weight than Lip
zest roty
willow drum
zest also hasnt won shit
willow drum
???
last nimbus
zest is like yaki last year
willow drum
how do fusion have #1
last nimbus
trying so hard
willow drum
title
restive nexus
fr though, if proper doesnt get roty ill be amazed
last nimbus
next year zest will be washed
split flume
zest also hasnt won shit
i mean leave didn't win shit last year
hot onyx
MM
hot onyx
They were best in apac
split flume
then why'd they lose to seoul
hot onyx
With Covid
split flume
seems pretty
keen abyss
although spark was the best team in that tourney
keen abyss
and fusion merely got lucky in their matchup
willow drum
he means that fusion was best apac team in mm
delusional
last nimbus
they got the chills 🥶
hot onyx
That’s better cope for me
split flume
statistically seoul was the best
last nimbus
is vindaim better than chorong
keen abyss
spark was the third best team in MM
split flume
because they won
willow drum
is vindaim better than chorong
no
hot onyx
Than Proper deserving it for carrying less weight and having less to show for it
round shadow
fleta 💀
willow drum
you cant rate like the top 3 ms all over each other
last nimbus
didnt vindaim start playing overwatch really late
willow drum
theyre all same skill level
last nimbus
like 2 years ago
round shadow
a true prodigy
split flume
can't believe striker got signed again 💀
split flume
shock better have a stockpile of keyboards or they gonna run out quick
keen abyss
and their wins
round shadow
can't believe striker got signed again 💀
and for literally zero reason aswell
restive nexus
and for literally zero reason aswell
to replace proper until his eye gets better
keen abyss
I was going to pred shock to win today but I reconsidered after remembering the striker signing
willow drum
he is terrible lmao
keen abyss
shock fans are delusional and trying to remember their 2019/2020 golden boy
restive nexus
I was going to pred shock to win today but I reconsidered after remembering the ...
i mean they gonna lose to reign so they might lose to heesu asw
round shadow
to replace proper until his eye gets better
oh i forgor
split flume
i do like how crusty has been unable to wrap his head around sombra since 2019 
keen abyss
on the other hand it’s toronto ‘reverse swept by nyxl’ midfiant
split flume
A solid .500 team
keen abyss
i do like how crusty has been unable to wrap his head around sombra since 2019 <...
he only plays with integrity and fairness
no hacking
split flume
real
restive nexus
based
restive nexus
kevster birdring would be great
keen abyss
hanGOAT
willow drum
guys i think lip should be mvp
vagrant cargo
I miss birdring glads could’ve had 4 titles this year 😓
Ong
Brexitring the goat fr
keen abyss
guys i think lip should be mvp
I would be satisfied with this just because of how robbed he was last year
there is no way the best ow player
has not won mvp
despite putting up back to back to back insane seasons where he was arguably the best player
2021 idek if it’s arguable
I want to join shockcord to impart the truth that proper is simply not on the same tier as the other 4 mvp candidates
split flume
you will be crucified
restive nexus
I want to join shockcord to impart the truth that proper is simply not on the sa...
i want to do that for fuel and hanbin but im banned from the fuel discord
keen abyss
and hopefully this one soon 🙏
and imo not counting hanbin as an mvp candidate
is pure ignorance
restive nexus
i wont acknowledge anyone fuel
keen abyss
hanbin deserves an exception
restive nexus
fine
ebon aurora
No MS getting nomination is rough
restive nexus
hanbin is best tank in mvp candidates
ebon aurora
there have been some INSANE MS this season
restive nexus
there have been some INSANE MS this season
funnyastro
keen abyss
hanbin ‘went missing for a stage’ because rush tried to force fearless guriyo
not hanGOAT’s fault imo
restive nexus
vindaim roty
keen abyss
I think Dallas place top 4 or 5 in MM if they invested in hanGOAT doomfist
ebon aurora
No nominations for Chiyo or Vindaim, nothing for Finn or Fielder either
restive nexus
have they shown roty candidates?
willow drum
No MS getting nomination is rough
no MS deserves
ebon aurora
not yet
keen abyss
Finn and fielder don’t deserve mvp
keen abyss
Finn and fielder for role star
ebon aurora
Finn and fielder don’t deserve mvp
what do they do differently to Shu?
keen abyss
shu is a different breed
restive nexus
whoru is also a chad
keen abyss
he is the difference between glads and the other teams in the league
shu has literally brought glads to 3 titles
on his sheer willpower and shu factor alone
restive nexus
3?
restive nexus
was that last year?
keen abyss
see midseason madness ilios
ebon aurora
if you're making the argument that Hanbin shouldn't be MVP because he got benched for a stage, surely you can make the same argument for Shu in JQ meta?
keen abyss
hanbin is literally my no bias mvp candidate
alongside shu
hanbin and shu have both proven that without them their team isn’t at the top
but with them in and rolling they are the top dog
restive nexus
last stage was a tank problem for glads imo
keen abyss
while also putting insane plays every match
imo glads would have made grand finals
if toronto wasn’t so fucking dogshit
willow drum
cope
keen abyss
that the lost to the fucking
willow drum
cope
keen abyss
london shitfire
keen abyss
hadi mvp fr fr
willow drum
canada never beats britain
ebon aurora
Honestly if Whoru had played more this season he'd be a legit MVP candidate
restive nexus
so many people are gonna vote for chadi as a meme that he actually gets mvp
hot onyx
canada never beats britain
except in 2018
keen abyss
fielder and Finn are top caliber flex supports but they do not have the same x factor
that shusus has
ebon aurora
I disagree
keen abyss
how is fielder an mvp candidate when hanbin exists
restive nexus
frfr
keen abyss
how is Finn an mvp candidate when proper exists
ebon aurora
early on in the season Finn impressed me more than Proper, admittedly that's changed through the season
restive nexus
how is finn an mvp candidate in general
hot onyx
how is Finn an mvp candidate when proper exists
only one mvp candidate per team?
keen abyss
no
hot onyx
good
restive nexus
proper deadlift shock
hot onyx
FiNN is a top 3 fs
keen abyss
like if you can’t even hold a candle to your own teammate for mvp
hot onyx
Proper is a top 3 fdps
keen abyss
why should you be mvp candidate in general
hot onyx
Pretty valuable imo
ebon aurora
I don't think nominating people like Fielder/Finn/Vindaim/Chiyo is that crazy when you look at people like Kai getting nominated
Kai hasn't been THAT good this season
frozen mountain
Is it possible to be recruited for a team even if your not from Japan
keen abyss
FiNN is a top 3 fs
the gap between the best and the second and third best for flex supports is so much bigger than the gap between the top 3 flex dps
restive nexus
Kai hasn't been THAT good this season
danteh >kai
ebon aurora
this season, I honestly agree
keen abyss
kev and proper are basically even and zest peli trail a bit behind
ebon aurora
considering he's played tanks
hot onyx
I wouldn’t even say ZEST and Pelican trail far behind Kevin Proper
keen abyss
Finn is amazing but he doesn’t win games like shu does
hot onyx
I have them in the same tier
ebon aurora
I know Hanbin's JQ was absolutely integral to Fuel winning SS but their backline was also ridiculous
keen abyss
I seem to remember Finn losing games for shock tbh
ebon aurora
Fielder and Chiyo were popping tf off
keen abyss
I am thinking of a certain eichenwalde grand finals match
where Finn choked so hard
shusus does not choke
he makes the big plays when he needs to
restive nexus
just saying patiphan woulda been roty
ebon aurora
I hope Proper gets ROTY but not MVP
keen abyss
agreed
ebon aurora
I agree, but I hope people like Vindaim at least get nominations
keen abyss
I am the biggest proper naysayer but I am not a dumbass imo
restive nexus
saying anybody else deserves roty than proper
im not gonna vote for proper but yeah he is clear roty
ebon aurora
how many usually get nominated for ROTY?
keen abyss
when there are s tier candidates on many other teams
restive nexus
will king get a candidate slot?
keen abyss
imo proper mvp is delusion but anyone but proper for roty is also delusion
restive nexus
surefour roty
tiny pollen
Proper mvp easily
ebon aurora
my ROTY list would be Proper, Chiyo, Ch0rong, MN3, Mer1t, Vindaim, Reiner, Patiphan - anyone else obvious I'm missing?
keen abyss
but OWL staff and talent are massive shock dickriders and I’m pretty sure they’re who get to pick so
ebon aurora
that's only 8, I was trying to name 10
tiny pollen
Who else deserves MVP lmao
ebon aurora
Shu, Hanbin, Kev, Lip
keen abyss
people who have won titles
tiny pollen
Bench bench apac is a trash region
keen abyss
instead of choking in multiple grand finals
ebon aurora
Proper for ROTY is fine, not MVP
keen abyss
Bench bench apac is a trash region
title check
tiny pollen
Like you can't be benched and be the most valuable player
keen abyss
alternatively
tiny pollen
That proves you aren't that valuable to build around and keep in
keen abyss
if your team is far and clear the best team in the league when you’re starting
restive nexus
Like you can't be benched and be the most valuable player
propers benched.
ebon aurora
rekt
keen abyss
and the moment you’re benched your team becomes mid
tiny pollen
He's literally crippled
keen abyss
that’s an even bigger argument for mvp
restive nexus
He's literally crippled
still benched
keen abyss
coaching decisions does not change the value that shu and Hanbin achieved when they were in
restive nexus
HanBENCH dickriders
im an avid fuel hater...
keen abyss
carrying their teams to titles
as proper chokes his second grand finals in a row
regular season Andy
not mvp worthy
tiny pollen
Titles don't mean shit
ebon aurora
what was that from Dragons
limpid grail
wellllll
tiny pollen
Leave last year
limpid grail
wellllllll
keen abyss
lip had much more deadweight to carry
ebon aurora
Leave should not have been MVP last season
keen abyss
Leave last year
lip should’ve won last year
tiny pollen
Lip plays in the bad region
ebon aurora
it should've been Lip
tiny pollen
You're insane
keen abyss
Lip plays in the bad region
doesn’t mean shit
hollow bough
jesus
tiny pollen
Leave was 1v11ing last yrar
keen abyss
2v10ing
hollow bough
whos your mvp candidate?
will have to think abt that one ngl
tiny pollen
And proper is doing the same
keen abyss
ga9a was good
hollow bough
so many good candidates
keen abyss
why are shock fans consistently delusional
keen abyss
you have the striker and ans defenders
ebon aurora
Zarya, Sigma, Dva, JQ not enough?
restive nexus
why are shock fans consistently delusional
they are in shock from being so bad
tiny pollen
And not be able to play only 2 heroes
ebon aurora
his Doom is cracked too
tiny pollen
Zarya, Sigma, Dva, JQ not enough?
He plays zar and jq
ebon aurora
that's 5 heroes
willow drum
he needs to retire lol
tiny pollen
Fearless plays doom
keen abyss
hanbin also plays doom
ebon aurora
when Hanbin has played Doom this season it's been impactful
look at the times he pulled it out in SS
keen abyss
he mentioned it in the interview after pounding the san fraudcisco shock
limpid grail
I mean that was mainly for stall but it worked
keen abyss
in yet another tourney where proper choked hard
limpid grail
and yeah he plays it
tiny pollen
No way ur citing Dallas summer showdown
keen abyss
because he is not clutch in any situation that actually matters
tiny pollen
When they were d tier 😭
keen abyss
because he is not mvp
ebon aurora
D tier LMAO
restive nexus
When they were d tier 😭
they won summer showdown lmao
ebon aurora
4-0 in the final is D tier, ok dude
restive nexus
eh d tier is too high ig
keen abyss
Dallas were >> shanghai who were > seoul who were > shock in SS
ebon aurora
you literally said SS
ebon aurora
worked though
keen abyss
midseason madness was when rush decided to play fearless guriyo
ebon aurora
^
keen abyss
bc Winston meta
limpid grail
it was just on Hollywood but it was a good clutch
keen abyss
not hanbin’s fault
ebon aurora
it was just on Hollywood but it was a good clutch
Lijiang as well
keen abyss
and Dallas being an S tier team both tournaments where he started
tepid ibex
CAUSE HANBIN CAN ONLY PLAY 2 HEROES
Sigma, dva and zarya..?
restive nexus
CAUSE HANBIN CAN ONLY PLAY 2 HEROES
4 not counting doom
tiny pollen
To seeing why benchbin
limpid grail
ohhhh yeah nearly forgot
keen abyss
and b tier in the one tournament where he didn’t
restive nexus
To seeing why benchbin
benchper
keen abyss
is even more ammunition for hanbin mvp
ebon aurora
yes playing Fearless in a Winston meta, such a stupid idea
tiny pollen
If he was so good
keen abyss
CAUSE HANBIN CAN ONLY PLAY 2 HEROES
proper has two tricked genji tracer
tiny pollen
They wouldve played around him
keen abyss
and hasn’t even been the best on either of those heroes
ebon aurora
no, you are
tepid ibex
Your insane
You are
restive nexus
They wouldve played around him
are you gonna say shu isnt mvp for that reason as well?
keen abyss
hanbin has far cleared everyone on jq and zar
ebon aurora
saying Hanbin plays only 2 heroes
tiny pollen
Cracked bench lord
ebon aurora
sick Dva too
limpid grail
hanbeen the best zarya for a while
keen abyss
and I have faith that he could be a top dva
ebon aurora
he already is?
keen abyss
but Zarya comp fits their style better
limpid grail
how is he a bench lord if fearless does not get to play at all lmao
tepid ibex
Cracked bench lord
He was benched in a winston meta
tiny pollen
Void sucks lol
limpid grail
he's top 3 imo
tiny pollen
He was benched in a winston meta
Doom meta
hot onyx
sombra gap
keen abyss
Cracked bench lord
are you going to field your off tank player or your top main tank player in a meta where main tank is hard meta
limpid grail
who else
id love to say hawk is a good dva but need more 5v5 data
restive nexus
Void sucks lol
💀
tiny pollen
But obv he would play cause his doom right
limpid grail
his 6v6 dva is great
tiny pollen
are you going to field your off tank player or your top main tank player in a me...
Doom meta
tepid ibex
Winston was played as well
keen abyss
fearless also plays Winston
tiny pollen
Fearless is a mid doom
keen abyss
and can play the ball
tiny pollen
And hanbin gets benched for a mid doom
limpid grail
would you rather sub the tank out in one map
or just keep it consistent throughout all of them
if you can do so
tepid ibex
And hanbin gets benched for a mid doom
Propers about to be benched for striker does that mean he’s now bad 
tiny pollen
No cause proper is literally crippled rn
restive nexus
No cause proper is literally crippled rn
still benchper
ebon aurora
Hanbin was crippled by the meta
tiny pollen
Hanbin bandwagoners insane
keen abyss
Hanbin bandwagoners insane
proper bandwagoners are actually
tepid ibex
Hanbin bandwagoners insane
Proper bandwagoners insane
keen abyss
where’s sans I need a pass to use a word
restive nexus
@hot onyx
limpid grail
what argument can you even make against that
like do you just not think hanbin is a good player or smth
ebon aurora
what argument can you even make against that
like do you just not think hanbin ...
he's deluded, that's the only argument
limpid grail
oh my gosh
it's almost like he isn't benched anymore cause doom sucks now!
tepid ibex
Hanbin should stop being benched in a doom meta
Winston and ball were played more than doom my guy
keen abyss
Hanbin should stop being benched in a doom meta
most intelligent shock fan
tiny pollen
Winston and ball were played more than doom my guy
Ball was 90% an ass choice that was crutched by bad teams
keen abyss
we found one more delusional than flame and dulla actually insane
keen abyss
Ball was 90% an ass choice that was crutched by bad teams
didn’t shock force ball
tiny pollen
U think someone who's benched should be mvp
keen abyss
a lot
tiny pollen
Yea
restive nexus
If proper was mvp they wouldnt have lost to a team with only 5 people
ebon aurora
LOL
tiny pollen
Proper is crippled rn
tepid ibex
U think someone who's benched should be mvp
Proper about to be benched
tiny pollen
Cause he's injured lmao
restive nexus
Proper is crippled rn
so is your mind clearly
keen abyss
Proper is crippled rn
when he was not injured he still could not clutch a tourney
ebon aurora
^
keen abyss
despite having roughly the same skill level all around
tiny pollen
Fellas insane
ebon aurora
not denying that, ROTY is fine
tepid ibex
You’re the only insane one here
ebon aurora
but there are other people more worthy of MVP
hot onyx
where’s sans I need a pass to use a word
you have the pass
keen abyss
thank you sans 🙏
I will not be using it but I would like to get the message across that this guy needs it used against him
hot onyx
but be warned that the mods won’t even let me use it
ebon aurora
oof
ebon aurora
that's generous
restive nexus
💀
keen abyss
in double fs tracer/genji hs meta
maybe because proper is a fraud
who cannot clutch up in big tourney matches
unlike the best fdps in the world
Kevin “Kevster” Persson
the man who was consistently a top 1/2 player on his team in glads 3 back to back stage title victories
restive nexus
only wub can compete 💀
keen abyss
and the large reason why glads were still extremely competitive when faced with the 4 best teams back to back in a meta that they had extreme issues in
yet even with glads not even in the tourney
shock couldn’t even take a map in grand finals
sad!
fraudper just can’t play when the stakes are high
can only carry the shitter matches
doesn’t sound like a most valuable player to me
tropic herald
glad to see zest on the mvp ballot
unironically super deserving
but also i really like this years mvp noms
you got the obv ones and also the cool interesting ones
buoyant jacinth
despite having roughly the same skill level all around
This is not true fool
Glads have shu who is a deserving MVP candidate vs Finn who is not
And Reiner who you braindead glads fans said was roty over proper vs Mickeyy who is a masters ball one trick pony
And glads won maps on the main support differential as well
brave bear
it's so sad to see that in championships nobody plays junkrat
junkrat could be better used, the fact that it is so easy to get right makes me sad
I was hoping that in overwatch 2 he would have more movement
fathom igloo
I mean there are better heros then junk for DPS
lost thicket
finn should learn kiriko, kiriko zen for ultimate damage
hadi and zest should not be mvp candidates, fielder/vindaim would all be better choices imo
tribal canopy
Vindaim??
I mean i agree hadi is wrong but come on
Whats the link to vote mvp again
lost thicket
vindaim or lfg imo
vindaim smurf have been some of the best things for dynasty this year imo
Vindaim, LFG, Fielder, Viol2t and Danteh could all be here imo
north relic
glad to see zest on the mvp ballot
Where
north relic
Where yaki
plush bridge
i think the list is ass half the people dont deserve to be there
plush bridge
smurf
north relic
i think the list is ass half the people dont deserve to be there
What’s your ballot then
Throw out shu lip💀💀💀
fathom igloo
Did he really say throw out shu
Tell me you haven't watched the glads without telling me that you haven't watched the glads
hot onyx
hadi and zest should not be mvp candidates, fielder/vindaim would all be better ...
man really thinks a player that carried 3 slots of dead weight for 2/3 of the season to 2nd 4th (#1 apac) and 3rd isn’t mvp worthy
fathom igloo
Shu has been amazing esspically swinging over to the DPS role
lost thicket
not Viol2t
Very much a silent carry and flexible to Ms, he is def a role star at least
fathom igloo
And here comes catjam to give a braindead take
hot onyx
Very much a silent carry and flexible to Ms, he is def a role star at least
He is not mvp over ZEST
buoyant jacinth
And here comes catjam to give a braindead take
Ok here you go: "pokemonpat is right"
Owned!
lost thicket
Shock is just a better philly gotten to 2nd place more
north relic
Very much a silent carry and flexible to Ms, he is def a role star at least
Shu fastro gangnamjin vindaim gap sadly
north relic
Aren’t you the one calling Viol2t role star
lost thicket
I mean he is tho, at that level
Shu Fielder Viol2t Vindaim LFG
Viol2t bridge between Ms and FS lmao
buoyant jacinth
Dude said gangnamjin
north relic
Dude said gangnamjin
It’s based
lost thicket
It’s based
It's autistic
north relic
Original message was deleted.
north relic
how many role stars are there
The amount of wins nyxl has -19
cloud latch
1 per role?
hot onyx
best team in the world *for now
it would be a very Fusion thing to lose to Charge the next day
mortal abyss
We are always the best team until we aren’t the best team which is never
hot onyx
i think take the win with a pinch of salt considering MN3 ZEST and Fury did win 3v3 as Bebe and Fleta took up roster spaces for 3 maps
mortal abyss
Yeah I feel like it was more shd being bad
hot onyx
it was close enough when it was 3v5
and FiXa Aimgod somehow performed at a middling level enough to capitialise on the doggy poo on Dragons
this gives me hope for the rebuild next year where they sign Bliss and Vigilante
candid radish
Hadi for mvp of year
hot onyx
Hadi has better team mates than ZEST and came out with inferior results
lost thicket
how many role stars are there
pretty sure 4
lost thicket
Tank Role Star Hanbin Reiner Coluge Smurf Imo, maybe switch out coluge for Danteh/Fate/Void
support Shu Fielder Viol2t Vindaim
dps idk
restive nexus
for role stars do they do just dps tank and support or do they do fdps hs , ms, fs etc
north relic
Danteh for role star
lost thicket
but maybe through in Merit/Pelican/Edison/Sparkle/Fits/WhoRU/Zest/MN3
etc
some people are like why whoru
every time dragons were good
north relic
I love how you don’t mention zest
lost thicket
whoru was in
lost thicket
I love how you don’t mention zest
good shout forgot about him
hot onyx
top 3 fdps is easily forgettable imo
north relic
Tank : Hanbin, Smurf, Reiner, Hawk
DPS: Yaki, Kevster, Zest, Lip
Support: Shu, Fastro, Fielder, Vindaim
Factual list
lost thicket
Tank : Hanbin, Smurf, Reiner, Hawk
DPS: Yaki, Kevster, Zest, Lip
Support: Shu, F...
I disagree with 3 of these decent
north relic
Hawk role star
lost thicket
(dont say profit)
(Profits)
north relic
Tbh
lost thicket
based
hot onyx
i am talking singular players
lost thicket
Proper Kevster Profit Sparkle
north relic
i am talking singular players
Rate my role stars
lost thicket
top 4
hot onyx
dear god
sp9rk1e?
after performing well on one hero all season?
Venom role star next?
lost thicket
Tank Role Star: Reiner Hanbin Coluge Smurf
DPS Role Star: Proper Lip Kevster Sparkle/Profit
Support Role Star: Shu Fielder Viol2t Vindaim
lost thicket
after performing well on one hero all season?
yeah
hot onyx
Rate my role stars
honestly pretty neat
lost thicket
same thing for whoru
man is one of the reasons dallas is good
hanbin/sparkle/edison
hot onyx
Sp9rk1e has not been consistently good all season and is easily replaceable
tepid ibex
man is one of the reasons dallas is good
I think you mean dragons or edison
north relic
Hanbin and support line carried fuel
lost thicket
are the main things, genji has been meta
let some of the best genjis in pretty simple ass
hot onyx
there is 0 reason for him to be there over ZEST Pelican or even WhoRU if you want to go that route
lost thicket
clear 4th place
north relic
there is 0 reason for him to be there over ZEST Pelican or even WhoRU if you wan...
Yaki
lost thicket
then probably pelican whoru and zest
hot onyx
mathematically ZEST has dragged the most dogshit to the highest standings
i believe he deserves it more but we are all allowed opinions, correct or otherwise
north relic
mathematically ZEST has dragged the most dogshit to the highest standings
That’s proper sadly
lost thicket
mathematically ZEST has dragged the most dogshit to the highest standings
You are just a philly hater lover lmao
"The most dogshit team"
hot onyx
yes that is them
lost thicket
Aja
hot onyx
when they have the worst support line in the region when double fs isn't being played, along with an off tank that decides whether to play at his peak or rock bottom based on a coin toss and korean ameng, and still consistently rank top 3 (#1 APAC MM) that warrants ZEST being there
candid radish
Hadi has better team mates than ZEST and came out with inferior results
Philly fusion have a better mechanical team just worse mentals
twin bloom
#KesvterMVP
tidal marsh
Who won between dragons and Philly?
Philly
lost thicket
top 3 choices for mvp imo is Proper shu hanbin
static pond
Dragons still playing the Winston comp?
lost thicket
Shanghai still playing Fleta LMAO
cunning patrol
Only correct answer
No thanks…
buoyant jacinth
I am never voting for a european...
cloud latch
Only correct answer
cloud latch
what is the link
uncut drum
that was not working like 1h ago
mortal abyss
I think mn3 should be mvp over zest and I disagree with hadi being there but it’s a pretty good list otherwise
cloud latch
that was not working like 1h ago
it worked for me
cunning patrol
I think mn3 should be mvp over zest and I disagree with hadi being there but it’...
What
mortal abyss
What
?
I just meant mn3 should be on the list over zest
Imo
Not that mn3 should get mvp
sullen berry
honestly which encore would you rather see? This (Seoul/Chengdu) or Shanghai Philly?
north relic
Philly
sullen berry
same
I like to think they could stream both, but then you'd earn too many tokens before the price jump
worn falcon
honestly which encore would you rather see? This (Seoul/Chengdu) or Shanghai Phi...
lattter
north relic
They really need to pick the better game
They streamed 3-0s instead of good games before
static pond
Don’t they usually encore the first match tho
lost thicket
philly has had a pretty good year
top 4 Stage 2, Top 2 Stage 1, Top 3 Stage 3 almost got second place again, Stage 4 see, to be top 2
so they had 3 stages were they were top 2 or close to that
candid radish
I'll be honest, while Hadi isn't MVP it's been nice seeing him do well after last year
lost thicket
NQS was 3:55 minutes long
that is 1.04 aKm blades
0.99 Fleta Blades
0.94 Saucy Tires
willow drum
Fleta is so bad
sullen berry
lattter
It seems natural right? They do schedule these matches ahead of time but I thought the point of these were strictly to let local Philadelphia and LA Valiant fans watch at reasonable times
local LA Valiant fans
- Tay Zonday
twin bloom
Only correct answer
Agree
Every good playah wants kevster win
Its not a coincidence
stuck radish
Propa
wind girder
easy
earnest leaf
cunning patrol
He's the savior of western ow imo
I am
tropic herald
they are making game changers but in ow ?
mortal cipher
Not sure
tropic herald
it seems to be just that
limpid grail
chat reminding me why OW players are cringe
tropic herald
surely yt chat is being completely normal during this segment 
worthy lynx
surely yt chat is being completely normal during this segment <:Clueless:9129264...
Surely
fiery hill
What even is this segment…
tropic herald
its just them talking about running tourneys for marginalized genders
which is cool
fiery hill
Who cares? What genuine OWL fan gives a shit about what gender the players are?
Nobody cares as long as they’re good
cunning patrol
Me
tropic herald
okay i do not want to have to explain this
worthy lynx
Its just about rep, its not that big of a deal
fiery hill
You need to sort out your priorities
tropic herald
there is a lot of systemic segregation in video games, especially in esports
worthy lynx
^^
fiery hill
Also, stop getting played by big companies
Blizzard doesn’t care at all lol, if holding inclusivity segments make them money then they’ll do it
tropic herald
i am going to assume that you are not someone who is marginalized based off your comments above but there is so many people who are part of that group, so even if the goal of them is to make money of inclusivity it is still better than no inclusivity at all
devout path
Also, stop getting played by big companies
Blizzard doesn’t care at all lol, if ...
Getting more people to watch esports does make them more money yes
tropic herald
they want money but in the process they are doing something good for the space
worthy lynx
Exactly
devout path
Game changers in val is so cool I love it
fiery hill
i am going to assume that you are not someone who is marginalized based off your...
Assume all you want, you can be wrong if you’d like
tropic herald
are you a cis man
fiery hill
😑
sullen berry
Also, stop getting played by big companies
Blizzard doesn’t care at all lol, if ...
just kind of scummy to overthink their attempts to make money outweigh the greater benefit of bringing up regularly underrepresented talent
devout path
Invalid input error
fiery hill
Damn I guess my sex is the only thing that makes me part of a group
fiery hill
Bro what
fiery hill
Who says ‘bet you aren’t part of a marginalised group’
Then the only example was being a man
devout path
This is about women
tropic herald
bc the context of this convo
devout path
And other marginalized genders
cedar oasis
based on my observations men are better then women at ow
tropic herald
is literally about gender
fiery hill
I have been and am in multiple ‘groups’ that may not be represented or may even be attacked
Never, not once, have I cared about overwatch pros being part of them
lost thicket
Proper MVP striker GF MVP trust
devout path
based on my observations men are better then women at ow
Men are also worse than women at ow too
fiery hill
It’s silly
I watch OWL in order to see the best OW players PLAY a the game
tropic herald
all they are doing is making a league for women
devout path
I have been and am in multiple ‘groups’ that may not be represented or may even ...
Kai is british
fiery hill
Ok?
tropic herald
and its whole purpose is to push inclusive spaces and gradually break the systemic issues in esports
devout path
It’s silly
I watch OWL in order to see the best OW players PLAY a the game
And you still can
This changes literally nothing ab owl
fiery hill
Not when half the time is taken up by adverts for inclusivity
fiery hill
Or any kind of advert about some issue that they want to push
tropic herald
it is literally not during the game 😭
lost thicket
who cares about any of this, shut the fuck up both of you
devout path
I hate the woke media too!!!
fiery hill
It’s chock full of enough shit as it is
lost thicket
stop crying about blizzard wanting money
and stop caring about the tourny
grow a sack of balls
you fuck
fiery hill
Damn brave take dude
lost thicket
and other people shouldn't care about rep either
it doesn't fucking matter holy shit
this chat is braindead
fiery hill
it doesn't fucking matter holy shit
Literally not a single thing in life matters but you will still argue about something in your life at some point
lost thicket
Literally not a single thing in life matters but you will still argue about some...
exactly, especially this doesn't matter
I agree
so lets shut up and just focus on the game or some other shit
devout path
It does matter tho
lost thicket
who fucking cares
fiery hill
So the shitty ‘both of you stop it!!! I said so!!!’ Is dumb
lost thicket
So the shitty ‘both of you stop it!!! I said so!!!’ Is dumb
I just think the entire convo is dumb and brain melting imo
cedar oasis
Men are also worse than women at ow too
tru i also think korean peopole are better at ow
fiery hill
so lets shut up and just focus on the game or some other shit
Yeah when the game actually fucking happens
devout path
It may not matter to you but it matters to a lot of other people
lost thicket
did you mean are gladiators predicted?
fiery hill
Yeah
lost thicket
cause if so yeah
fiery hill
true, I wanna see zen matchups
Kaan has been a great player so far
lost thicket
I think london could still win it
lost thicket
Kaan has been a great player so far
yeah, kaan v shu/skewed should be a fun matchup
zen gosu
fiery hill
Perhaps even some Poko shows up
The thing with London is they’ve said that their biggest strength is how everyone on the team genuinely likes each other
Their potential roster has to sort of be limited because of that
You know, if they get a new player and they’re good but toxic, it can fuck with that team synergy
fiery hill
I remember a match where he just fed constantly lol
But it might’ve just been a bad game for him
dreamy cave
i think he flexes more than hadi does though
lost thicket
JQ is the Ana to viol2ts zen, or the literally every other flex support to Creatives ana
lost thicket
Also reiner is the best MT of ow2
SMURF BETTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
north relic
Also reiner is the best MT of ow2
its true
dreamy cave
yeah, i dont think backbone hacking reiner is going to be enough for them to really win this map
north relic
how do token matches work
lost thicket
BASED
cedar oasis
i agre with yt chat that hadi>>>>>>>>>>>>>gator
fiery hill
Thanks for throwing, Landon
dreamy cave
scary, i was almost wrong
fiery hill
Has shield
Walks into bomb
worn falcon
@forest token reiner monke
dreamy cave
london supports are non exsistant
dreamy cave
brother what are you talking about.
forest token
how the fuck does london only have one more loss than glads
that is actually insane
there is a chasm between these two teams
twin bloom
london supports are non exsistant
Because kevster is to good
hollow bough
that was a sick block
worn falcon
how the fuck does london only have one more loss than glads
glads best team btw 
forest token
they still nano'd it so still worth
I wasn't watching so idk why glads didn't have the ults to punish
but trading nano for a blocked pulse was a big fuckup for london
cedar oasis
they won that round because of that
forest token
sleep moment
I enjoy
winton jump winton zap winton ult winton nap
this should be gg for glads
primal + beat
ye
worn falcon
winton jump winton zap winton ult winton nap
Hadi MVP candidate
forest token
lol
cloud latch
mvp nominated tank chadi can't carry hard enough
dreamy cave
forest token
lol
stuck radish
what is Shu doing there
dreamy cave
give it to shu bc i want a ana skin
stuck radish
what is Kai doing there too
worn falcon
and profit the fraud
restive nexus
give it to shu bc i want a ana skin
shu or kev win mvp
cloud latch
give it to shu bc i want a ana skin
they aren't making mvp skins tho
restive nexus
they aren't making mvp skins tho
fuck sinatraa for that
cloud latch
😢
dreamy cave
i still have my jjonak skin so i guess i technically have my W already.
upper hawk
lets goooo glaaaaaads
dreamy cave
tbh even though i hope so desperately that shock dont win GF. i think proper deserves mvp more than anyone on the list.
vagrant jacinth
No more shock dubs allowed
worn falcon
@forest token Reiner Dva now
forest token
no way
worn falcon
forest token
oh gib
tidal marsh
Rein Team not on Rein on rein map?
forest token
their plan on this map is just to counterdive
so the dva isn't as shit
they were running the doom before to do the same thing
which still is risky against the ana
I love sombra/tracer two man dives
it's so pog
I love it so much
I fucking love this game
worn falcon
me too
forest token
honestly
worn falcon
isnt
forest token
would I take joats over sombra
worn falcon
i take joats
tidal marsh
okay kaan
worn falcon
yeh
forest token
I think I might
tidal marsh
wowie
forest token
invis hack is so fucking stupid
I don't know why blizzard thought that would be a fun engaging interactive mechanic
wind girder
Y'all puffing hella copium if you think literally anything is worse than joats
forest token
at least make the invis limited so I can fucking track it
tidal marsh
Y'all puffing hella copium if you think literally anything is worse than joats
original goats
forest token
nah man glads made joats look fun
watching people get solo-emp'd is so fucking boring
worn falcon
Invi sombra is awful
forest token
ope hack from invis
dreamy cave
glads were bad at joats...
worn falcon
i dont mind the emp
forest token
imo they were a top 2 joats team at the end of the stage
worn falcon
but the invis hack is annoying
forest token
and would've made it to finals if not win the tourney if they made it
I hate them both
restive nexus
glads support swap heroes lul
dreamy cave
kaaan stop
forest token
I WANT TO WATCH EMP ALL DAY
tidal marsh
gamers, i need news about rein on KR